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November 12, 2025 49 mins

What really happens when your job is to party for a living? 

Faith, a Scottsdale bottle girl, keeps it real about VIP nights, wild regulars, jealous partners, and the fine line between fun and chaos. She spills on dating in nightlife, bad tips, worse texts, and the kind of energy that actually earns respect.

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SPEAKER_03 (00:00):
Oh my god, I just totally got catfished.
He looks absolutely nothing likehis picture.

SPEAKER_02 (00:06):
So I found out the guy that I've been dating is
married with kids.
His wife just reached out to me.

SPEAKER_03 (00:15):
Welcome to the meat market.
The single scene is theslaughterhouse, and we are here
to devour it.
We are your hosts.
I'm Lindsay.
I'm Jess.
And today's sizzling single isFaith.
Welcome! We got a bottle girl inthe house.
Hello.
Everyone's from Scottsdale.
So tell us.
I bet you have some crazystories to spill about the Old
Town Scottsdale club scene.

SPEAKER_00 (00:35):
It is one for the books.
We're very close to competitionwith Vegas, I would say.
Um, as far as the type ofpartying, the pricing, and our
clientele that we bring in, andalso the wild dating scene.

SPEAKER_03 (00:50):
I hear you ladies.
You people, Scottsdale peopleare wild.
Wild wild.

SPEAKER_00 (00:53):
We are wild.
We are wild.
We know how to hustle.
And being a bottle girl, I wouldsay is it's tough.
It's not the most perfectindustry.
Um, but we definitely have, Iwould say, the most fun in it.
We make the world, we make itworthwhile worthwhile if I can
even talk from that.
Um, it's fun, it's wild.

(01:14):
Um, it's it's changed a lot ofmy perspective of one dating to
the hustle.
And, you know, nobody knows howto hustle like a bottle girl,
let alone a bartender.
I mean, like in Old Town, it'svery, you're dealing with some
high clientele and you'redealing with some, you know,
intoxicated people.

SPEAKER_03 (01:34):
And do you ever have clients hitting on you?
I do.
I bet you do all the time.
I do.
How do you handle that?

SPEAKER_00 (01:41):
Um, you know, I I think one, they look at me as at
first, especially being a bottlegirl, I'm I'm greeting them and
I'm most of my clientele, Iwould say, is like bachelor and
bachelorette groups.
So they're already a littleintimidated, intimidated with me
at the beginning because I'mtattooed and I'm a little bit of

(02:01):
a tough cookie.
Like I'm really nice once youget to know me.
Um, but I I let them know, youknow, I'm here to make sure that
they have a good time.
And they get a little touchy,but I think it's all about just
your your energy and your vibe.
And would you ever date a clientor customer?
Uh I don't think so.

SPEAKER_03 (02:23):
You've never you never have?
Uh-uh.
You've never gone home with one?
Nope.
Never gone home with one.
I'm one of the few.
I'm one of the things thatyou're doing.

SPEAKER_00 (02:30):
I am one of the few.
So a lot do?
I would say a lot do.
You know, they like to they liketo make their money, but um, and
that's great, and I'll make yourmoney, girls.
But I think more so, I thinkwhen you say make your money,
you mean the guys pay them to gohome with them?
I would say most of them do.
What?

(02:51):
If they want them to come backthe next day, they do what they
can.
And that's not that's noteverybody that does that, but
there is a fine line of peoplethat will do that to make that
sell for a table.
Whether for whether they go homewith them and sleep with them,
or they just go home with or goto their Airbnb, hang out with
them, and then they eventuallyleave.

(03:12):
I don't know exactly, I don't Ican't vouch for everybody and
what they do.

SPEAKER_03 (03:16):
Um, but do you have a lot of repeat customers that
come back just to see you?

SPEAKER_00 (03:20):
Yeah, yeah, I do.
Especially like being in it foras long as I have.
Um, like I love it.
I make sure that they have agood time and you know, I'm
really respectful with them.
And, you know, there's been afew times of people grabbing me,
but I let them know, like, Ihave really good security that
they'll let them know that ifthey do it again, like it's

(03:41):
they're out.
And obviously they don't want tolose, you know, three to ten,
twenty grand because they stillhave to pay it.
What they sign for at the at thedoor is what they have to pay.
So, um, but yeah, I have I havegood security.
It it's all with my security,and I'm one of those like most
people won't say anything ifthere's an uncomfortable
uncomfortable like position thatyou're in.

(04:03):
They'll just kind of like laughand like let it happen.
I don't know.
I'm not you're gonna let you'regonna learn that that's not
okay.

SPEAKER_03 (04:12):
So now I know you have difficult hours, you're up
sometimes till 4 or 5 a.m.
Do you date in the same industrywith people that have the same
schedule as you?
How does that work?

SPEAKER_00 (04:21):
I have once upon a time, and that was when I lived
in Austin.
Um it was very toxic, it wasn'tgood.
And I think that for me, Ilearned my lesson on not dating
within the same industry becausethere's a lot of being a bottle
girl, it's it's a little bitharder.
And it was, I was dating amanager of the same company, but

(04:44):
at a different bar.
So they were like they workeddown below, but they were able
to come up and like see, and mebeing friendly, like I'm I'm
really nice.
So me being friendly and havinga good time with them.
It wasn't like me, you know, myarms around them.
It was just like me laughing,and he didn't like that.
And so there was a little bit ofa jealousy, which happens, you

(05:06):
know.
I don't know.
Men, men get jealous, girls getjealous, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_03 (05:11):
But um it has got to be tough to date someone in that
industry because you kind ofhave to be flirty, you know,
because you guys rely on tipsand you know, constantly coming
back.

SPEAKER_02 (05:19):
And like you're wanting to like run the tab up a
little bit because it's likethey do sign at the door, but
they can also order more asthey're there.

SPEAKER_00 (05:26):
I mean, our whole point is to is to double their
minimum, right?

SPEAKER_02 (05:30):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 (05:30):
Make them have a good time, and you know, people
will spend more if they have agreat time.
If they're not really having thetime, then they're gonna kind of
like cut it where um where theysigned at.

SPEAKER_02 (05:42):
Well, and you wouldn't think a manager would
understand that.
You wouldn't think.

SPEAKER_00 (05:46):
You would think, but I think it's different when
you're dating them.
And then obviously the jealousycomes into place, and then you
know.

SPEAKER_03 (05:54):
But so let's say you date outside of that industry.
Let's say you're dating a lawyerwho has Monday through Friday,
nine to five.
Isn't that tough?
Because then you're workingweekends, yeah.
You you know, you're you sleepduring the day, you're up.
Like, isn't that kind of toughfor the schedules?

SPEAKER_00 (06:07):
Yeah, it's it's wild.
I dated somebody that was longdistance.
So FaceTime was our best friend,but also it was the most
unhealthiest because when I hadtime on my own, it was we were
always on FaceTime when we wouldbe going to bed.
It would be, I had a tripod, andit was like one of those where
it was like we just weren't in asecure place where I would fall

(06:31):
asleep with him on FaceTime, andthen he would do the same thing,
and it was like, What are youdoing?
Where are you at?
Constantly questioning me whenI'm like, I should be
questioning you because youknow, there was a couple of
situations that obviously Icaught him on, so um, social
media, and there actually is anapp that tracks their likes on

(06:55):
Instagram, so it got to thatpoint.
So I was my own investigator,and I watched a lot of crime
shows.
I yes, so I became my owninvestigator, and I he never
knew, but I was tracking hisInstagram and I knew I couldn't
see like who he messaged, Icouldn't see like what he

(07:15):
messaged on people's pictures,but Instagram and social media.
What is the app called?
Um, I don't even have my phoneon me.
Um I can Google it.

SPEAKER_02 (07:27):
Is it something that you put on your phone, or do you
have to log into his account?

SPEAKER_00 (07:32):
So it's it's pretty wild.
So I it's it's not an app, it'slike through like Google or
whatever.
But you like if you looked itup, it's right there.
I learned that from one of myhomegirls as a bottle girl that
was helping her friend track andfigure out that her man was
cheating on her based on, youknow, I believe if you're in a

(07:56):
relationship, like I never, I'mnot the type like if I'm
committed, I'm committed.
And I've always been committedin every relationship.
So if I see that you're likingother girls' pictures, and then
I'm having to question you onwhy you're not liking mine, and
it's taken you forever, likethat's just where that's kind of
where it was getting at.
So I had put in it's it was hisInstagram.

(08:18):
So I just put in his Instagramname, it popped up his picture,
how many like who we unfollowed,who we followed.
Oh my god.
Oh yeah.
I got you can see all of that.
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (08:29):
I was so Was there like a specific girl that he
kept liking and commenting?

SPEAKER_00 (08:34):
Um, there was one when I lived over in LA, there
was one that had followed mefrom here because he had lived
here.
And there was one that he hadworked with who had followed me
pretty quickly, and then hewould talk about her a little
bit, and she would try, shewould like my photos, whatever.
And I just started getting likea weird vibe.

(08:56):
Like he, if you're talking aboutthis girl a lot, and then you're
talking about her ex-boyfriendand like how you were friends
with him, and then she gotcheated.
It was just like if you'retalking about her so much, like
what's so special about thatperson?
And so that's kind of what mademe.
I had already, I just got like agirl's instinct is a girl's
instinct.
You're just our gut is alwaysright.

(09:18):
I swear by it, it is alwaysright.
And so how did you find out hewas he physically cheating?
Messages don't lie.
I don't care if you're it'spictures, I don't care if you're
texting.
If you're giving the energy tosomebody else, then you are no
longer for me and you don't havethe best interest in me.

SPEAKER_03 (09:37):
Agreed.

SPEAKER_00 (09:38):
And so I had moved to LA and I caught him on his
Apple Watch, who it wasunlocked, never knew his
password, and confronted him.
And he pretty much said I wasinvading his privacy, and that
because I didn't have thefinancial income to support like

(10:02):
the rent and stuff like that.
You know, I was freshly new toLA.
LA, if anybody's been to LA andlived there, it's absolutely
crazy.
I lived in Hollywood, which islike the worst of the worst.
You're dealing with like I'mfrom Portland.
I can hang with homeless allday.
I can hang with the druggies,like, cool, I'll dap you up,
like I'll say hi, I'll be kind.
But over there, you're alsoapplying with like 600 other

(10:26):
people that need work too.
So it was it was just hard.
I had no connections over there.
Here, I have connections up theyin-yang.
Like, if I needed a bar job, ifI needed, you know, something
outside of the bar industry, I'mwell connected over here.
And that was my problem overthere was I had nobody but my
significant other at the timewho, you know, I thought had my

(10:46):
best interest.
And so then he pretty much said,you know, you were gonna get
kicked out anyways, and wassaying all these things.
And yeah.
So I had one of my clients herewho had my best interest and
helped me get the frick out ofthat place and paid for my
U-Haul, picked it up in Compton.

(11:08):
And me and my gay best friend,we just, I mean, I had my out,
it was a huge U-haul.
It was like a 16-foot becausehauling a car, you can't have a
smaller one because of thetrailer.
So I'm going through these.
I mean, in LA, driving is justalready nuts.
You're dealing with traffic,you're dealing with crazy
drivers that do not put, do notput their blinkers on, do not

(11:31):
stop at a stop sign.
I mean, I got my Audi wrecked.
I had an Audi A7, beautiful car,got it wrecked from somebody
that didn't stop at a stop sign.
Oh yeah.
So I was just already goingthrough the thick of it out
there.
And what a nightmare.
And it was just, it wassickening.
I wasn't, I became like, I wasafter I look back at pictures,
I'm like, wow, that like one, Icould just tell that I was not

(11:55):
happy.
Two, I was losing a tremendousamount of weight.
I wasn't eating because I'm I'ma stress, I'm a like if I get
stressed, I don't eat.
My dad's the same way.
Like, if it really gets to us,like we're just we get a little
not I'm not a depressive person,but during that moment where you
feel like so low and sohelpless, and you're away from
your friends, your family, andyou really get to learn who your

(12:17):
friends are and who they aren't.
Because I left here and I wentto LA, and half the people that
I thought were for me and weremy friends were only the ones
that were partying with me at mybig spenders' tables.
And it's like, damn, where wereyou during that time?
You know, you never you neverchecked on me, you never did any
of that.
So I came back here with a wholedifferent perspective and found

(12:40):
out that the people that Ithought were for me weren't.

SPEAKER_02 (12:43):
And so do you think that part of that is because
people maybe people in generaland guys especially don't take
you and not you, I don't meanlike you as a person, you, I
mean you as a bottle girl.
So bottle girls in general don'ttake them seriously because they
consider them to be uh, I don'tknow, ditzy or you know, like,

(13:04):
oh, you can't do anything otherthan uh serve a table.
You know what I mean?
Like, do you feel like maybe uhpeople have preconceived
notions?

SPEAKER_00 (13:14):
I think I've been always very independent, and
maybe, you know, not all menlike that.
They want us to be like, oh myGod, we need you.
Like, I've been on my own sinceI was 16 doing, you know,
working, hustling, taking careof, I came from single parents.
So I didn't grow up with themost amount of money or being, I
was taking care of them.

(13:35):
I was taking care of my mom, mylittle sister.
And so from them, like from melearning from that, I became
very independent.
And I think that not only Ithink not only being
independent, but also being abottle girl, that was another
thing, is like, oh, you're justa bottle girl.
Well, you try and be in my shoesand you try and like I work at a

(13:57):
very the only pool club duringsummertime.
We have third we have over 30tables, and each of us have
about four or five tables.

SPEAKER_03 (14:06):
I've never had that mentality, you're only a bottle
girl because they seem like theywork really hard.

SPEAKER_00 (14:10):
Yeah, like they they work.
And I've been in it 10 years,and it's not saying that like,
yeah, some people can get stuckin it, and maybe a little bit I
held on because of the money,but also the people that I'm
with, like my runners, my my barbacks, my bartenders.
I started off bartending and Iloved it.
You know, I I loved the energy.
I'm a people person.
I've never been the type that'swanting to sit at a desk.

(14:33):
I have really bad ADHD, so I'mlike, I can't do that.
I get bored.
I've try and do in the medicalfield, it doesn't work.
I don't, I'm not the type that'sgonna sit at a desk.
Like I'm a go-getter, I'm ahustler.
And a lot of people, yeah, don'ttake our jobs seriously.

SPEAKER_02 (14:48):
And I think guys, especially like guys that are
trying to date you, yeah,especially because they have
this like ego, like you knowwhat I mean?
Like you are just a bottle girl,you know.

SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
And you're also getting flirted with 247.
Exactly.
But it's also like you can'tthink that we're also the ones
to flirt back, you know.
We do our jobs, and I can'tvouch for any for everybody, but
I can only vouch for myself.
Like, I take my job veryseriously.
I love who I serve, I I makesure that they have a great
time, and then they always comeback.

(15:19):
Like, it's not, it's not forlike the flirtation or any of
that.
It's I love what I do, and I'velike I've had the best times,
I've had some hard times, butI've had, you know, without
that, I've learned so many.
I've grown up a lot.
I've learned like, oh, I don'twant to be like that.
And I also don't want to drinkand do all the crazy shit that I

(15:42):
see all the time.
Because, you know, I do havethere are horror stories of
people like bachelor groups andbachelorette groups, and then
they meet, and then you know,the bride and the groom, like
there are those stories.
I haven't seen that, but Ihaven't had a table.
Like, I'm I am that bottle girlthat's like, hey, be smart,
like, don't don't be dumb.

(16:03):
Have you seen any crazy shithappen at the club?
Oh yeah.
Like fights, like lots offights.
So there has been, I mean, backwhen we had right now, we're
kind of in a weird time.
People aren't spending as much,you know, everything's
expensive.
So back in the day, I would saylike three years ago, there

(16:26):
would be a tremendous amount offights, especially at the pool
bar that I or the pool club thatI work at.
Um, it would be like 30 peopledeep.
And our security, yeah.
And our security guards are liketrying, you know, because being
a security guard, you can't likeyour job is to be a security
guard, not to hit back oranything like that.
But if you're getting punched attoo, like it would be a whole

(16:49):
brawl.
And that's one thing that wejust had to kind of cut out some
of those security guards.
It had nothing to do fully withthem, but I think like also, you
know, the adrenaline's going,and we all, you know, guys like
to be guys, and some girls liketo go into it too.
But you know, we all like tothink that we're tough and stuff

(17:10):
until you get swung at and hit.
And, you know, let's say, youknow, it's happened where
certain people are drinking, andthen like you're at liability,
and when the cops come in totalk to you and you got alcohol
in your breath, and you're alsoworking at a club, like it's
it's not really the best luck,and you're legally not supposed
to be drinking.

(17:30):
Do a lot of people drink whileworking?
Um us bottle girls, we wereallowed to drink champagne.
Um, hard alcohol, not thatsometimes gets a little
confusing to me because you canget really hammered off
champagne.
Oh, yeah, you can.
So if they're buying, you know,a good way to sell champagne is
hey, if you if you want to drinkchampagne, like I'm able to

(17:52):
drink that with you.
Not saying that I have not takena shot with a table.
I have, but very low-key.
Sorry to the club that I workedfor.
Um, but I I'm pretty smart aboutit, you know.
I I think I'm all about myreputation and I don't want to
be one, I I've never been firedfrom a job, and I give like all

(18:15):
the respect for like being apart of the company, and um,
that's why I've been where I'vebeen at for so long is you know,
I represent me and my family,and if I'm driving after that,
and I get like it I've never hada DUI, but I know that there has
been people like within theindustry that do test those
moments, and it's not fun, itdoes it doesn't look good for

(18:38):
the club that you are working atand all of that.
So I just have you ever beenpropositioned to be a sugar
baby?
I bet you have all the time.
You've never said yes.
Um I have had a only one.
I had a really big client ofmine that I had met, and I had

(19:00):
the sugar, but I didn't havelike I didn't have didn't do
anything.

SPEAKER_02 (19:05):
Which so you were the baby, but you weren't giving
the sugar.

SPEAKER_00 (19:08):
Let me say that, yeah.
Yeah, I was the baby, I didn'tdo the sugar part.
Yeah.
Um and that was for you.
Yeah.
Um, he was awesome, and he'slike, he's still like one of my
best friends.
So did he just want to spendtime with you or I think it got
to a point where he startedliking me.
You know, it always gets to thatpoint.
Um, I just was not feeling itlike that.

(19:30):
I had a lot of gifts.
I had like my Audi paid for.
Oh wow, nice.
Yeah, it was it was awesome.
I I loved it.
And he's he's one of the bestpeople I've ever met.
I just wasn't physicallyattracted to him like that.
And that and I told him, I waslike, hey, like, I feel bad.
But at the same time, it's likea little how how naive can you

(19:50):
be?
Right.
No, but he's he's awesome.
He's again one of my bestfriends, and he showed me a lot
of things that nobody else hasshowed me, like going on a PJ
for the first time, like, hey,you want a bottle of Don Perrion
or like Ace of Spades?
Like, do you want to go to theF1?
Like, shit like that.
I was like, oh my god, yeah.
Um I I've gotten offered toobviously be a sugar baby, but

(20:17):
for me, it comes down to again,like my family and who I
represent.
And my little sister works withme, so I don't want her, you
know, it's just like I'm I'molder than her.
I'm 28, almost 29.
She looks up to me, and I reallygain that relationship with her
because her and I never used toget along.
So when I moved here seven yearsago, that's when we really

(20:39):
became best friends, and so I'mhere to protect her and kind of
help guide her.
And obviously, if I'm doing allthat, like what guidance can I
be?
And especially representing myfamily.
So and so are you on the datingapps now?
No, I have never been on thedating apps.
You've never?
No, I can't do it.
How long have you been singlefor?
I have been single since LaborDay weekend.

(21:01):
Oh wow.
So the one that I lived with inLA, I gave them a second chance,
and it was same thing again.
So never change.

SPEAKER_03 (21:11):
Never change, you know.

SPEAKER_00 (21:12):
If they're gonna cheat, they're gonna cheat.
And whether it's text message,if you're and in any situation,
you're giving your energy toanother person, then that's
that's not what I want.

SPEAKER_02 (21:23):
So if you met your dream guy, like not dream sugar
daddy, but like dream actualguy, yeah, and he wanted you to
quit your job, yeah, would you?
Um that was the stipulation.

SPEAKER_00 (21:38):
I uh if I had something that another job that
I could go to, I would.
But at the same time, like I'mnot gonna stop doing what I'm
doing to make somebody elsesatisfying.
Um you know, I don't I don'twork in a strip club.
I'm not a stripper, I don't doall that.
You can come into my club, youcan watch me work, you know, and

(22:01):
understand.
If then you're not reallyunderstanding like somebody
fully if they want you to likefully quit like what they love.
And I only stay in thisindustry, I think, right now is
I literally love who like whoI'm surrounded by, like my crew,
that's my family.
Like they see me through veryemotional times, like we've got

(22:22):
each other's backs like noother, and they've become like
my own blood.
That's important.
And so I think it would comedown to when I'm ready, and you
know, if I wasn't ready, thenthat's okay.
And I know that the manupstairs, God, has somebody
special for me.
Um, and you know, I think timingis everything.

SPEAKER_03 (22:43):
People underestimate the power of timing.
They really do.
So, do you want to get marriedand have kids?

SPEAKER_00 (22:48):
I do, I do.
That's the goal.
Yeah um, you know, I thoughtthat I would be married and have
kids by now, but how old areyou?
You're still young.
I'm 28.
I was 29.
I know, I'm still young.
I'm still young.
So my child, I have a goldenretriever.
So he's my baby.
He's four, he's got enoughenergy to be a child in itself.

(23:09):
So um, he keeps me on my toes.
So you say you don't date inScottsdale.
You try not to date inScottsdale.
So where do you meet men?
Like I wouldn't say I I wouldn'tsay I don't try to not date in
Scottsdale.
I think that just the sour tastethat I get from all of the
horror stories and seeing what Isee, um, you know, when somebody

(23:29):
has some alcohol in them.
Again, like I see a lot ofpeople like in their best and in
their worst, especially workingin a club.
So I'm a high-paid counselor, iswhat I call myself.
But I I've dated long distancein almost all of my
relationships.
And I think I'm kind of at thispoint now where I want to find
somebody, like I'm not, I'm notgonna move anymore.

(23:51):
I've lived in five states, andI've had a lot of development
and self-development and a lotof like heartbreak.
So right now I'm I came backhere and I'm gonna stay here for
a while.
And if it works out withsomebody, it works out, but I'm
not gonna, I'm not gonna moveaway anymore.
So I've done the long distance.
I think like in the industrythat I'm in, you know, it's

(24:13):
worked.
Um, but obviously it hasn't atthe same time because I'm
single.
So and that's okay.
Have you ever walked outmid-date?
Walked out mid-date.
I have not.
I really actually like haven'tgone on a lot of dates here.
I'm such a stickler, like, youknow, I just am so I know what I
want, and um I I just yeah.

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How does it take for a guy toland a woman like you?

SPEAKER_00 (25:23):
Like you gotta be a man.
You gotta know how to change,like, gotta know how to change
your oil tires.
Like, I don't want, I don't wantto be babysitting you.
Once upon a time, my my car, myex was in town.
My car that I just got, I leftmy lights on on my Range Rover,
and the battery died.

(25:44):
It's like a safety system inthat car.
And he freaked out, wentupstairs.
We're gonna go to lunch, freakedout, had a hissy fit, went
upstairs in my apartment, andI'm like uber eating uh like
jumper cables by myself.

SPEAKER_03 (26:01):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (26:02):
And that's the kind of thing it's like, okay, then
you're not really a man.
Like, I want somebody that'sthat's gonna be like committed,
that's kind, that's I I workout, so I need somebody that
knows how to work out, knows howto push weight.
Um, I bodybuild, I do all thatfun stuff.
I've been an athlete all mylife.
I'm I want somebody that's gonnabe a go-getter that also brings

(26:24):
you flowers.
Do not settle for somebody thatdoes not bring you flowers
because I never got flowers outof a three-year relationship.
What?
Not once, not once.
Unacceptable.
So I started hanging out withsomebody, and within like the
first couple weeks, like acouple months ago, he brought me
flowers.
Just like, you know, he'syounger than me, and I'm like,
wow, you're actually a man.

(26:45):
You opened up my door, you don'tlet me pay for a meal.
You give like you brought meflowers, and I'm like, you know,
I'm telling my dad, I'm like,damn, like, what have I been
dating for for so long?
Apparently, nothing.
Because if you can't bring agirl flowers, then I mean,
flowers are my favorite thing.
I love daisies.

(27:05):
That's like my favorite flowerin the entire world.
And so yeah.
What are your deal breakers?
Deal breakers, um, one, notbeing a sissy, two, um, sorry to
the mama boys, but if you'rereally dependent on your mom
paying for your stuff, like, uh.
Um, you know, I I've worked twojobs like pretty much my whole

(27:30):
life, taking care of my family.
And I don't expect them to likedo the same, but at the same
time, like just be a man, likeknow how to treat somebody like
a woman good.
Not good, but great.
Um, you know, ask them theirfavorite things, like really get
to know them like on a personal,deeper level, and really break
down some of those walls.

(27:51):
Because for me, it's like I haveso many walls just based on me
protecting myself that if youdon't take the time to, you
know, what are some of thethings that you struggle with?
Like, what can I work on, youknow, to make you feel more
comfortable?
If you're not asking yoursignificant other that, then I
don't know what to tell you.
So I think just being a man andjust um, you know, holding your

(28:14):
own.

SPEAKER_03 (28:15):
What is do you have a crazy talent or a unique fact
about yourself that not manypeople know?

SPEAKER_00 (28:20):
Crazy talent.
Um man, a crazy talent.
I could do a four-leaf cloverwith my tongue.
Okay.
I guess a four-leaf clover.

SPEAKER_03 (28:29):
Oh, you can really, isn't that tough?
Uh-huh.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (28:32):
I guess that's a crazy talent.
Yes, it is.
Um I've I mean, I I would saylike that's my best one.
I grew up hunting and fishing.
So just because I look the waythat I look doesn't mean that I
can't get down the dirty.
I grew up like riding dirtbikes.
My grandpa was a he was in abiker club, so I've been around
the biker scene a lot.

(28:54):
That's a little bit tougher of ascene than like I like to
surround myself with.
Is that the type of guy that youlike?
Like the biker looking guy.
I like a tattooed guy.
I don't know.
I like just like somebody thatloves like old school rock, like
doesn't only listen to rap.
The newer rap just kind ofsucks.
It really does.
Like old school Drake, great.

(29:14):
Lil Wayne, great.
Great.
You got 50 Cent, that's that'sdown my alley.
But like if you know Tesla,Poison, Metallica, like I've
seen a lot of those guys inconcert with my dad.
So I grew up just listening tothat in a you know, in a 70s era
and an 80s era.
I like I like the punk rockstuff.

(29:34):
I'm not really like into likethe really gothy stuff.
I I like wearing black and I Ilike my silver, all that, but at
the end of the day, like I don'tlike smoking cigarettes, none of
that.

SPEAKER_03 (29:48):
Going back to the bottle um girl stuff.
Have you ever served any famouspeople, any professional
athletes or musicians?
Or I have.
Are you able to disclose?

SPEAKER_00 (29:57):
Um, I have served too short.
And he was not the nicestperson.
He wasn't?
No.
He was really rude.
He was really rude.
Oh, that's annoying.
Um, I I remember he was like,and this, I mean, I don't know
if I'm allowed to say this ornot, but he he was just flat out
rude.
He was I thought he was gonna beso cool.
I've listened to Too Short forso long.

(30:18):
He seems like he would be cool.
He seems like he would be cool,but he's not.
Um, first of all, he he boughtlike the tiniest little tequila
bottles and bought like six ofthem when he could get like a
mag.
To me, I'm like, you know, youyou you've got the chains, you
rep, like, oh, I'm you know, I'mtoo sure I have this big guy.
Um no, he wanted a couple of usto go to his hotel room, and

(30:42):
when all of us were like, no, hewas just like the rudest person.
And you know, like they want onething.
I think about my safety.
There are naive girls that willgo with a spender and be like,
oh yeah, I'll I'll go in yourlike your escalade and go shop
into the mall.
In my head, I'm like, oh yeah,in two seconds you're gone.
Yeah, like that's just the waythat I think.

(31:03):
Like, you're kind of dumb ifyou're gonna do that.
Great if you get somethingreally nice, but like be smarter
than that.
And there are a lot of naivegirls that, especially here in
Scottsdale, that are quick tosee the potential of getting
something nice, money, uh, nicedesigner bag, all of that is I
think about my safety at the endof the day.

(31:26):
Um, when we had Super Bowl here,we had a lot of them that didn't
make it to the Super Bowl thathad tables at one of the clubs
that I worked at, and it wasreally cool.
Like they were they wereawesome.
I've met a lot of a lot ofbaseball players, I've met a lot
of Atlanta Brave players, andthey were they were super cool.

(31:47):
So one of my one of my goodbuddies is Tuki.
He was a pitcher for the Bravesduring when they won.
So he was probably like myall-time favorite, and I'm still
in contact with him.
Um, a lot of the Suns players,they they'll pop in a little
bit, but they like PrettyPlease.
Yeah.
They like that Super Bowl, howfun they are.

SPEAKER_02 (32:09):
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We help you keep more in yourrelationship.
All right, so we have aquestion, a last time question.
Um, okay.
Someone says, I just starteddating this guy recently, and he
uses a speakerphone in publicall the time.

(32:32):
Is this a red flag or just a dadmove?
A speaker phone in public.

SPEAKER_03 (32:38):
I don't think it's a deal breaker, but it's annoying,
right?
Because it's inconsiderate ofthe people around you.
So to me, it just screams thathe's an inconsiderate person.

SPEAKER_04 (32:46):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (32:46):
But if you can talk to him about it, communicate and
maybe he'll change.

SPEAKER_02 (32:50):
Maybe.
For me, it's a uh it's kind of adeal breaker for me because I
don't like people looking at me.
Like I don't like attention onme.
And so if you're talking on yourphone and you're on
speakerphone, that tells me youwant everyone to know who you're
talking to and what you'retalking about.
Right.
Like you're doing it forattention, right?
Right.
Like you don't talk onspeakerphone in public for any

(33:10):
other reason other than that.
Like who's on the other line?
I disagree.

SPEAKER_03 (33:15):
Because I have read that talking with the phone like
this, it's can cause braincancer.
Seriously, I guess as adisclaimer on the iPhone, if you
look, like in the additionalterms of.
But are they really thinkingabout that?
But that's why I always talk onspeakerphone.
I always talk on speakerphonejust in case it does cause
cancer.
But if I'm like in an airport,okay, that's so inconsiderate.

(33:35):
If you're like sitting in anairport or something on
speakerphone, I never do that.

SPEAKER_00 (33:39):
It's like having your volume on and you're
texting and it's so loud and allyou hear the that to me, it's
gotta go.

SPEAKER_02 (33:47):
Well, and AirPods, like headphones, like how hard
is it like to put in anearpiece?
Like you'd if you're worriedabout your phone giving you
can't well, I guess now they saythat airpods give you cancer
too.
Everything can give you cancerfood or water.

SPEAKER_00 (34:03):
It's true.
Would it be a deal breaker foryou?
I think it would just, yeah, itwould get annoying.
Yeah.
I'd have to say something.
I'd have to say something thefirst time it happened.
I am the type that if somethingannoys me, I'm gonna let you
know.
I am.
And whether, like whether youtake it the right way or the
wrong way, I like I'm so seriousabout it.
It like I can't, if somethingannoys you and you're dating

(34:25):
that person and you're not okay,like going forward, and you you
know that you can't withholdwhatever that person is doing
without saying something, likeit's yeah, I can't do it.
That's how I am too.

SPEAKER_02 (34:38):
I would say something the first time, and
then if they do it again, I'mlike, that's too close to
begging.
I'm not gonna ask you again,like this is done.
I can't date you.

SPEAKER_00 (34:46):
Like, I would ask what's the risk and why you're
doing this.
I would ask you.
Are you purposely trying toannoy me and piss me off?
Or like, did you not hear what II slightly asked you like?

SPEAKER_02 (34:57):
I have to ask more than once, yes.

SPEAKER_00 (35:00):
Then you don't really care what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 (35:02):
So you don't even let him have the three strikes.

SPEAKER_00 (35:04):
No, one strike in the round.
Uh I I'd say, yeah.
I would say two, and that's it.
I don't I don't give the top ofit.

SPEAKER_02 (35:09):
I like talk a big game, but no, I do, I do tend to
give more chances than that.
But in my head, at the secondtime, I'm going, You're driving
me nuts.
Yes.
Yeah.
Like this is never gonna last.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (35:21):
So we're gonna discuss.
We asked our listeners and ourfollowers what is the most
embarrassing thing that happenedto you on a first date.
And I'm gonna read some of thefunny ones.
What is the most embarrassingthing that happened to you or
your date?
Do you have one?

SPEAKER_00 (35:34):
It's not embarrassing, I think it's just
disrespectful when they aretalking about like their past
relationship.
Ugh.
So annoying.
Like that to me is just like soit's disgusting.
Like, then you're still not overthat person, and then also like
you're really going deep withit, and then I'm kind of like
eating my food, like, yeah, thisis really not worth it.

SPEAKER_03 (35:55):
And I think the first date should be about you
getting to know you, getting toknow each other, not talking
about your past.

SPEAKER_00 (36:00):
It was really just me getting to know like uh their
last relationship, and then ifthat's all you're thinking
about, then you're really andthen if you ask me on a second
date after that, I just I neverwent.
What about it?
I couldn't do it.
Uh uh.

SPEAKER_02 (36:14):
I've never had anything embar I don't think
I've had anything embarrassinghappen to me on a first date.
But I mean, I've told the storybefore about my vagina hanging
out while I was on you have totell me.

SPEAKER_00 (36:29):
I will say I have a story about that, but it was my
birthday.

SPEAKER_02 (36:31):
It wasn't necessarily a date.
I was with my ex and we'd beentogether and we were on vacation
and we were in a very humidplace, and I went to the
bathroom, and I like slid mybikini to the side to go to the
bathroom, and I didn't slide itall the way back over.
And I didn't realize it untilI'd walked across the restaurant

(36:51):
back to our table.
And so it was, yeah.
And so half of it.

SPEAKER_00 (36:56):
Did he point it out?

SPEAKER_02 (36:57):
Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (36:58):
Yeah, I got back to the table.
Like, how long did it take himto point it out that no?

SPEAKER_02 (37:01):
As soon as I got back to the table.

SPEAKER_00 (37:02):
I was at least at least he wasn't like just
leaking.

SPEAKER_02 (37:05):
But I walked all the way across.
Like he could have like beenlike been like, hey, like, yeah,
he could have like send me asmoke signal from across the
restaurant.
Like, like, babe, like, come on,pull it over a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 (37:18):
Well, mine, mine was my birthday.
It was like when I was 22.
I wore this leather skirt thathad it like a slip, like a
cutout slip.
And in all my, I did not wearunderwear because I didn't want
an underwear line.
It was a very tight blackleather skirt.
In some of my pictures, and andI'm obviously intoxicated.

(37:39):
I'm at a bottle service tableback home.
In all of these pictures, youcould fully see my vagina.
Oh, good.
And I'm like, and nobody told methis.
Like, I look back, I can't evenpost those pictures.
Like, oh my god, that ishilarious.
If I put an emoji there, thensomebody's gonna know this
immediately to that.

(38:00):
How rude of my friends.
I went the whole night notknowing.
Oh, at least I was like freshlyshit.
Nobody's gonna tell I know.
Could you only imagine a word?
Yeah, that's hilarious.
Yeah, shout out to my friendsback home.

SPEAKER_03 (38:16):
So, some of these, I was on a first date with a guy
after an 11-year relationship.
I was sitting at the bar andthought my date dropped
something on the floor becausehe bent down off the bar stool.
But when he came back up, hesaid, didn't smell your vagina,
so that's a good sign.
Half the bar heard him as he wasyelling.
Thank God we just ordered drinksbecause I couldn't get out of
there fast enough.
Who does that?
Who does that?

(38:37):
Who thinks that's acceptable?
That is not funny.
That's not funny.
Then you you gotta go.
Yeah, like someone said they gotthe hiccup so bad they wouldn't
stop.
The date had to take her home.
Um, someone said to take herhome because she couldn't stop
hiccuping.
Um, I farted on a first date,was mortified.
He heard it, so it was reallyawkward.

SPEAKER_00 (38:56):
I mean, at least you're breaking the ice a little
bit, right?
You're really getting to knoweach other that first time.

SPEAKER_02 (39:02):
That's always the first sleepover for me.

SPEAKER_00 (39:04):
I always get so nervous.
I'm like, depends on what I'mlike.
I mean, I've never I'veactually, I don't think that
I've like farted in front ofsomebody.
I hope not, especially in mysleep.
But you don't know what you'redoing in your sleep.
I don't know, right?
But I'm like, that's always beenlike my oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (39:20):
Mine's in my sleep, it's it's in my sleep.
Like that's always it's I'malways like it's gonna happen.
I'm gonna wake myself up andit's gonna wake you up too.
Or snoring.

SPEAKER_00 (39:30):
I have I have woken myself up several times from me
snoring, and that's like if I'mreally drained, that's the only
time that I am snoring.
Other than that, I'm a silentsleeper.
Yeah, but the fact that I wokemyself up next to somebody and
I'm waking myself up snoring,that's a little embarrassing.

SPEAKER_03 (39:47):
So it's funny.
The next one, I went to the looand had explosive diarrhea, and
the toilet overflowed andflooded the whole bathroom in
the restaurant.
Oh god.
My date had to take me home.
I almost died.
That is so crazy.
That's embarrassing.
That's pretty embarrassing.
That is mortifying.
A lot of these are about that.
The first date I got foodpoisoning and had violent
diarrhea on the side of the roadand had to clean myself with an

(40:08):
old shirt I had in the back ofmy car.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 (40:10):
Oh my, but that's also that's not her fault.

SPEAKER_03 (40:13):
That's not her fault.
That's true.

SPEAKER_00 (40:15):
That's the restaurant's fault.
That is the restaurant's fault.
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 (40:17):
It was at a house party.
The girl whose house it waspulled me into her parents'
bedroom.
We were kissing and fumblingaround like teens do on her
parents' bed.
I took her pants off and forsome reason said something like,
Do you think your dad does thisto your mom here?
The mood died pretty quick afterthat.
I still cringe when I thinkabout saying this.

SPEAKER_00 (40:33):
Especially in your parents' room.
That is not the vulnerablestate.

SPEAKER_03 (40:38):
Yeah.
So I don't I feel bad for I wason a first date, and this guy
had been asking me out for thelongest time, and I wasn't
really interested.
But to be kind, I I agreed.
I thought, well, maybe you knowI'll get to know him and my
feelings will change.
So he picked me up.
We were driving and he gotpulled over and was given a DY,
took, was taken to the localjail.
His parents, his friends weren'tanswering their phone to come

(41:00):
get him out of jail.
So I had to call my parents, andmy parents had to go and pick
him up at the jail and take himhome.
Isn't that mortifying for him?
Mortifying for you.
For everyone involved.
But what's funny is then wedropped him off at his apartment
and he invited us in, whatever.
And I saw him years later.
And what he found embarrassingabout the situation was

(41:22):
something completely different.
He didn't really care about thewhole DUI thing.
He was mortified because he'slike, I'll never forget.
I was so embarrassed.
You came into my apartment andthere was McDonald's lying
around the apartment.
I was so embarrassed.
I was like, that's what you wereembarrassed about.
I would be more embarrassedabout the DUI.

SPEAKER_02 (41:37):
Seriously, I went, so I'm just realizing this now
that we're talking about firstdates.
This wasn't embarrassing, but Ihad my first date with my ex,
and we ended up going to theplace where you work.
We did Sunday Funday.
We went to brunch and we metthrough mutual friends who
introduced us.
And so we went to a brunchtogether as a double date.

(41:59):
And then we had some otherfriends who were going to the
day club for a pool party.
And so we're like, should we go?
And so we decided to go.
We got one of the tables, one ofthose back tables that's like up
behind the bar area behind theDJ or whatever outside.
And so we had one of thosetables.
Um, and I had the girlfriendthat set us up that was on our

(42:24):
double date with us, we hadbrought our bikinis in our, like
in your purpose, like inScottsdale, you always bring
your bikini with you no matterwhat, especially in the
summertime.
Like you know, you just neverknow.
It's like the rule, it's likethe rule of Scottsdale.
So we're holding towels up.
I think our our server likebrought us towels or brought us
a sheet.
She brought us something like tohold up so that we could change

(42:44):
behind it.
And I remember my ex, this waslike the biggest red flag.
He had gotten so fucked up atbrunch.
And right when we got there,that I was like trying to change
into my bikini, and he was liketrying to come back behind.
And I was like, I just met youtoday.
This is our first date.
What are you doing?

(43:05):
Like he was trying to like comeback there with me while I was
chasing.
Yes.

SPEAKER_00 (43:11):
And I was like, like, we just met three hours
ago.
What are you doing?
Like, I don't even know yourparents yet.
Exactly.
I was like, get out of here.

SPEAKER_02 (43:22):
Oh my god, that was very embarrassing.
But it was a little bit of adisaster first date, and it's
funny because it was at the poolclub.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (43:29):
Now it's time for the celebrity cut where we
marinate in the juices of thecelebrities.
So are you Taylor Swifty?
Swifty as they call it.
Oh, I'm not.
I'm not either.
But I typically like her becauseshe does a lot of good things.
She donates a lot of money.
But did you see how this newalbum, she has what, like 37
different variants of it?
Like, have you seen that?

(43:50):
Like, she has multiple CDs,multiple cassettes, multiple
vinyls.
It seems like it's just to makemoney.
Like, she seems like she's goinga little crazy with the whole
corporation money grabbing.
Doesn't it seem out of control?

SPEAKER_00 (44:02):
I think as soon as she got engaged, I think it was
just because they were alsoposting like her, like her worth
and his worth.
And obviously, like hers is alittle bit more than Travis's.
But it's yeah, I think it'sthat, and she's also I remember
Taylor Swift like when I wasyoung.
That is my like I loved her whenI was really, really young.

(44:24):
Being a young girl, that's whoyou looked up to until I saw her
in concert and it was not asgood as really now.
She's better.
She's probably taken a lot ofvocal classes, but when I saw
her, she was she was she sucked.
Oh, it was terrible.

SPEAKER_02 (44:37):
Also, what are the what why are there different is
it like different cover art?

SPEAKER_03 (44:41):
Different cover art, yeah.
But it's like it seems like it'sjust another way to make money.
Because I guess when you go topurchase one, it says, Would you
like to add all to the bag?
Oh it just seems like it's allabout and she never used to, she
never used to be that way, didshe?

SPEAKER_00 (44:53):
Like also her outfits are changing.
Now she's gonna she's getting alittle bit more like spicy,
yeah.
She is.
I mean, good for her trying toget out of like her normal
attire.

SPEAKER_03 (45:03):
The good girl, good girl next door.
But it's funny how the Swiftiesare freaking out about that.
But dude, she's what, 35?
Like maybe it's time for her toexplore her to have her
womanhood, you know?

SPEAKER_02 (45:12):
Yeah, yeah.
Interesting.
I thought I what I found moreinteresting was the interviews
that like Jason and Kylie Kelseydid about the wood song.
About the song that's aboutTravis's wood.

SPEAKER_03 (45:28):
I haven't heard that song, have you?
Oh, you should.
I should be.

SPEAKER_02 (45:33):
It's very interesting.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
I just thought it was funny.
It was like your family.
Like, imagine that's yourbrother.
Imagine your brother's marriedto a singer and she writes a
song all about your sex life.
Like, I found that moreinteresting.
Or if you're the dad listeningto it.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (45:49):
Well, now it's time to get to know you with Zoya,
sponsored by Zoeya, yourneighborhood yogurt.
So we're gonna ask you rapidfire questions to get to know
you better.
Best or worst pickup line you'veheard.
Oh, best or worst.
One that you use.
Do you use a line?

SPEAKER_00 (46:03):
I don't use a line.
Um, I mean, I have so many thatI mean, a lot of it's using my
name.
Um god.

SPEAKER_01 (46:11):
Like, gotta have faith.

SPEAKER_00 (46:13):
Yeah, gotta have faith.
That's it, yeah.
Or they'll a lot of it's likeyou're like talking about being
an angel falling.
Okay, I've heard that so manytimes.

SPEAKER_03 (46:21):
I need a little faith in.

SPEAKER_00 (46:22):
I actually hate pickup lines.
I just it doesn't work for me.
Yeah, I think it's a good thing.
I just I think it's so cringy.

SPEAKER_03 (46:28):
What's your favorite body part on a partner?

SPEAKER_00 (46:31):
On a partner.
You gotta have good abs.
Good abs and some good arms.
What gives you the ick?
The ick.
Somebody's smacking their food.
Oh, that's right.
We're not like we're bad breath.

SPEAKER_03 (46:43):
Yeah.
Is porn considered cheating?

SPEAKER_00 (46:46):
I yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (46:49):
Before you're intimate, is it appropriate to
ask your date how many peoplethey've slept with?

SPEAKER_00 (46:54):
Um, I think if you're uh I don't think so,
because at that point it doesn'tmatter.
Obviously, if you hear it out onthe street, like, oh, they've
slept with a lot.
That's that is an ick to me.
I don't want to hear that.
But also, like, you kind ofgotta move on somehow.
And if you if you like theperson, you like that person.
Is it acceptable to have sex ona first date?

(47:15):
Yes, because I have.
Hey, if you like that person andthe vibes are going, like I'm
right there with that.

SPEAKER_03 (47:22):
Should you disclose mental health issues early on in
a relationship?

SPEAKER_00 (47:25):
Um, I think if you're in a healthy spot to
discuss that, yeah, absolutely.
I think talking about strugglesare a good thing.
And you know, if somebodyunderstands and can comply with
some of those struggles, likeyou never know.
They're probably dealing withthe same thing.
So maybe you can connect on adeeper level, and yeah, I don't

(47:46):
see why not.

SPEAKER_03 (47:46):
Last but not least, what is your favorite sexual
position and why?

SPEAKER_00 (47:50):
Oh man.
I'm a r I'm yeah, I'm a menace.
I we ooh.
What is my favorite?
I like to be on top.
I like to be like, that's greatif somebody likes to I like to
be in control.
And that's just I think just theathlete.
Yeah.

(48:10):
Um, and then yeah, yeah, that.
And then just not a hard choke,but like a good, like, yeah.

unknown (48:19):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (48:20):
I think, you know, getting getting things spicy.
Do you have any other questions?

SPEAKER_03 (48:24):
Do you have any other questions or anything else
you want to add?
Well, thank you so much forjoining us this week at the meat
market.
And thank you so much, Faith.
If you want to go on a date withFaith, send us a DM at Meat
Market Podcast.
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Strategies.
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We'll see you next week at theMeat Market.

(48:45):
Oh my god, I just totally gotcatfished.
He looks absolutely nothing likehis picture.

SPEAKER_02 (48:51):
So I found out the guy that I've been dating is
married with kids.
His wife just reached out to me.
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