May 1, 2024 • 57 mins
In this gripping episode of Albuquerque UFO UAP Explorations, we welcome Joan of Angels. A famed healer and cosmic spiritual leader, Joan has been working tirelessly to assist individuals in their journey of personal transformation, becoming a guiding angel in their path. Her vast expertise makes her more than just a spiritual guide- she's an oracle of ancient wisdom, a visionary artist, notable public speaker, and an actress and model among others.
Our conversation with Joan reveals an awe-inspiring exploration of the unknown, plunging into the mysteries of cosmic spiritualism and unearthly encounters. Joan discusses her once-partner, Harry Drew, a veteran UFO researcher. Harry was one of the first and most important researchers of the Kingman UFO crash retrieval, and shared his research and findings with Joan.
A deep dive into Joan's experiences, revelations, and spiritual awakenings, this episode shows our listeners a different dimension of reality. From ancient star families and the Star Federation to our cohabitation with various extraterrestrial beings, including reptilian entities, the episode covers various aspects of alien encounters and abductions.
We discuss Joan's beautiful journey from a non-artist to a divine artist spreading love and healing through her spirit-inspired paintings. Her ethereal art pieces alongside her soul aspect portraits and art activations help individuals connect with cosmic energies and understand the diverse aspects of their souls.This conversation is sure to enlighten and inspire anyone seeking a deeper spiritual connection.
In the final section of our episode, we explore the concept of a 'New Earth' and the role that we all play in humanity's evolution in these uncertain times. We reassure our listeners that each has a crucial part to play in the grand plan of things, and everyone is at the right place at the right time.
Join us in this eye-opening journey through celestial wisdom and expand your understanding of your existence within the cosmic grid. Tune in for an empowering conversation that inspires spiritual growth and consciousness.
Learn more about Joan of Angels:
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Welcome to Albuquerque UFO UAP Explorations.
My name is Bertie, and it is my absolute honor and pleasure to introduce a remarkable
individual, Joan of Angels.
Joan is not just a healer, but a cosmic spiritual leader and activator,
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an angel of light whose life's mission transcends the ordinary and touches the
very essence of our cosmic journey.
Joan's work is intuitively guided, focusing on personal transformation and providing
her clients with the necessary skills and healing to live happier, healthier lives.
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Joan is known as an oracle of ancient wisdom, a visionary artist,
and a spiritual advisor whose influence extends into public speaking, acting, and modeling.
Her role as a dedicated wing fluffer highlights her commitment to nurturing
and guiding the galactic community of lightworkers,
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starseeds, and earthly galactic beings, encouraging them to step into their
visions and live their true mission.
As a high priestess, Joan works in partnership with the Portal to Ascension,
promoting world tours and opening portals in sacred places.
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Her work aims at reestablishing ancient mystery schools across the planet,
making the old wisdoms accessible for the new age.
Today, as we converse with Joan of Angels, let us open our minds and hearts
to the wisdom she brings from the cosmos, poised to elevate and transform.
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Join us in this journey of enlightenment and cosmic discovery with Joan,
a true Angel of Light who walks among us.
Joan, welcome. I'm so glad you're here. Whoa, I want to meet that woman.
I'm so glad to be here too, Birdie. That was excellent.
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Oh my God, thank you. It's my pleasure.
Everyone should know what an incredible being you are. Thank you.
So let's get started from the beginning.
You've had a big transformation in your life from, you know,
your youth to where you are today.
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And I mean, we're all young souls, right? So.
We're all growing. We're all on this journey. And we're all growing.
And you're not, people like us who are connected to the stars are not the same
when we grow older as we were in the beginning, because we have to wake up.
That's right. We come here to wake up. We don't come here to be asleep.
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And so if you're listening on your path, you will be different.
Yes. Yeah, I know I've had incredible transformations multiple times in my life,
and I would love to hear about what got you started on this spiritual journey.
Well, I'm going to start by saying I think I've always been on the spiritual journey.
And I would lay in bed and the paintings on the wall would move.
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Now, I didn't see well, but still, I'd see angels in them.
And suddenly I'd find myself transported into the artwork on the wall when I was a little girl.
And I'd be walking among angels and tall beings and goddesses,
even as a child. I didn't know what that meant.
But as I grew older, I had a terrible, terrible, terrible fear of being alone
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in the house in closets. I mean, terrified.
Wow. And I've had, I could tell you, I've had 33 different awakening moments.
My soul aspects, to call them back, there's been 33 fragments.
But what I think is really appropriate here is that when I saw years ago,
it was in the In the 1980s, there was a book that was being released by,
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of course, his name skips. It was on ETs.
It was ETs. It had a picture of a tall gray on the book.
His name will come back to me. And it was touted on the New York Times and everywhere.
And I said to myself, I got to buy this book. In fact, I better order the book
because it's going to be sold out.
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And that's what I thought was going to be sold out. I was shocked when it wasn't.
And as I'm reading the book, it's Whitley Stryber's first book,
I think, as I'm reading it, he says, if you're reading this book,
you might have been abducted.
You might have been abducted. And if you're afraid of closets,
you definitely were abducted.
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And man, that hit me in my belly.
I mean, that really freaked me out.
And I didn't do anything about it because I was living a typical life.
I was a chiropractor. I was too busy.
And then I was a mother. And then something else hit where I met these people
who started talking about.
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God, names just take a while. He's the one who talked about the Anunnaki.
Zacharias Ditchin? Yeah, Zacharias. So she's a walking treasure trove of everything about him.
She's sitting in the living room telling me all about the story of the Anunnaki.
And I get really hit. And I start painting. I totally forgot about this.
I started painting spaceships.
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And at some point, I realized, oh, my God, I have to get these spaceships out
of my room. I'm going to give the paintings away because I'm attracting spaceships into my life.
So that was my beginning of understanding that I've been a contactee and I've
been abducted and I have children, you know, hybrid children.
It was really the beginning of that for me.
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Wow. It's so funny. I had the same experience with Whitley Striever's book.
I was in my first marriage at the time and had little kids. This was whenever
it came out a long time ago now.
And I bought it when we were visiting my parents.
My parents lived in Wichita, Kansas, and we were staying in the basement of
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their home. And I was up all night reading that book and just terrified.
I had all these memories come back. It was incredible that I had that same experience with that book.
Yeah, that book completely, completely, it was an aha, but it terrified me even more. Yeah.
So that's how I began. That wasn't my angelic awakening, but that was my actual ET.
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And I started to go to all sorts of ET events.
And I was up in San Francisco. And that's how I dived in and really discovered that I was a contactee.
And I moved to Baja at one point and I had a group down in Baja for a year called
Baja Paranormal because I wanted to meet other people interested in UFOs so
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the whole patriot community or expats we had like 100 people it was great.
Wow. That's very cool. Yeah.
Yeah. So how did your, your angelic awakening happen?
So you have your non-human intelligence awakening, your alien awakening,
and now another side of a multifaceted coin.
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You know, I've been on George Norrie twice and both times, all he wants to talk
about is UFOs and Angels, or UTs and Angels, the first show,
the second show, kind of all about how they fit together.
But I started, so I was a chiropractor for many years, and then I had to,
I was injured and I had to do other things.
And I began realizing that the biggest thing in my life was miracles.
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I began teaching people miracles and experiencing miracles, et cetera.
But at some At some point, things went sour again for me.
Oh, yes. After I had been researching the UFO, the Kingman UFO crashes, things went sour.
Man, we have to talk about Kingman. Remind me to talk about Kingman.
Because that has been in the news this past week.
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Oh, oh my God. Please send me links to that. Christopher Mellon,
the ex-undersecretary for defense, pointed out that it was a real event that happened.
And he posted some names redacted correspondence that he had with people in
the Department of Defense where they confirmed that they retrieved an intact crash.
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And it just happened this week. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. And I'm talking to
Joan. This is not a coincidence.
No way. Oh, my God. Yeah. OK, so send me that link or even post it in the chat here.
But I was intimately involved with a man by the name of Harry Drew.
And Harry Drew had thoroughly researched the 1953 Kingman UFO crashes.
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And according to Harry, there were actually three.
Yes, there were three crashes that happened in that period of time.
I think only one is known about, but there were three. And I went to all the crash sites with him.
I explored them with him. I saw the evidence.
I helped him make his movie, which I actually gave him the title.
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I think he called it Seven Days in May. Really exciting.
And yeah, I was intimately involved in that whole discovery of the land where they had been on.
We found all the evidence of the military and that they had been there because
they left all these cans of condensed milk that Harry, who was a true researcher,
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had traced back to the 50s.
That's when that can was made in the 50s is condensed milk,
We found radioactive activity. And every time we went to the first landing,
to that first landing site, some strange truck would drive up and start talking
about us and suggesting we go somewhere else.
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And one time they had all had, you know, weapons.
Now there was some kind of patrol. So they would always know when we would show
up. And yeah, it was kind of, it was intimidating for me because,
you know, just a normal human here. It's scary. Yeah.
But it was really exciting. And the second crash site that we went to was,
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you had to be really careful because of all the snakes and scorpions.
And that too was quite a story because the second crash site,
Harry speculated, and I think he was right, that they were coming back to pick
up the first guys that were left.
So the first crash site, there were four beings, and they were all alive when
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the military, when the Air Force came to retrieve them.
Wow. And they were taken quite a ways, and the ship had landed like this.
I guess I'm intimately involved with the crash. Yeah, okay, I'm happy to talk
about it. Oh, this is exciting.
It's news. All right. So the ship was at a 30-degree angle in the ground.
More like this okay okay and and
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they tried to carry it on one of
those flatbeds to where did harry say
that they went to i haven't talked about a long time you have to suggest some
of the military bases but he took they took it to this base but they couldn't
get it to go flat yeah so they actually had to go back and and bring the the
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crew members with them because the ship would not lay down flat.
It would only go like this. And they were taken alive.
But a week later, another crash landed about five miles over the mountain,
so on the other side of those mountains.
And it was flat. It broke into, I think, 1,000 pieces or so.
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Oh, my gosh. That must have taken some cleanup there. Well, the Air Force did their cleanup.
And I know I went with Harry. we researched certain records in the Historical Society in Kingman.
There was mention in one historical record, there was mention of it.
And then there was another mention a year or two earlier of a ship that,
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of a fire that was in the mountain. And they found some strange guys that were
there and they brought them in and they locked them downstairs in the courthouse.
Harry took people to the courthouse. It was crazy.
We did these chores in the courthouse. And this guy was locked downstairs in
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the prison cell, which was reinforced with concrete.
You could not do a Houdini and escape. Right.
And he was down there. When they came down to question him, he was nowhere to
be found. So there were strange incidents like that.
So they were scouting out Kingman for sure.
And Kingman is a hotbed because when I stayed with Harry in the desert,
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we, twice a week, at least, we would have ships out in the backyard where no one was.
Oh, that is insane. I have heard that it's a hot spot, that whole area.
I've driven through there multiple times. And it always has a feeling to me
almost otherworldly, like maybe there's a portal there or some kind of a thin
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veil makes it. I don't know.
I keep thinking I might be able to find it.
You know, the crash site. I have a clear idea of how we got there.
Yeah. And I've wanted to go back. At the back of Harry's house,
twice a week, we would see these ships and there was a big, these orbs would come towards the house.
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And one day, you know, Harry called me to look in the camera and one orb was
so big, it completely blocked out my car.
You couldn't see the car. It was that big and it was solid. It was solid.
You couldn't see through it. So yes, it is a hot hotbed.
It is true that these, I'm so glad that they're verifying or validating because
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Harry got a lot of flack from it.
The real, you know, the other UFO researchers really gave him a lot of flack.
And the other thing, the Kingman crash was 1953 or 55.
But you know, you can look at Harry's movie, Seven Days in May,
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Harry Drew, H-A-R-R-Y-D-R-E-W, and go take a look at it.
Harry had been a former museum director and was a true researcher.
His research was so valid. Someone actually tried to steal his domain name,
which was harrydrew.com. Yes, yes, yes.
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When he first brought me in to help him, I had to work hard to recover.
We know who took it to someone in the UFO world, I won't say,
but yeah, we worked really hard to recover that one.
Wow, you know, there are always a lot of shenanigans when you start getting
close to the truth in these different areas.
And it's amazing the kind of energy that that brings up, the chaotic energy, government energy.
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Negativity toward you it's amazing what can
happen yeah yeah so he did not get acceptance
from the ufo community on his work
in that way that is absolutely fascinating and it's just so interesting that
you know you're here talking with us now and yeah i know and it just that's
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right that's right that this was a real crash retrieval they have a whole intact
one of the The craft was mostly intact.
And apparently that's been reverse engineered.
Well, that's the one that was at the angle this way. And on those days,
I was getting a lot of flashbacks.
I could literally, I remote viewed it and I can see them walking around the ship.
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Oh, my dear friend, Kay, you missed the beginning. Oh, well, we had a private talk.
I'm going to be in your area this year, this summer.
Joan is coming out and we're going to put on a special show.
Oh, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. I can't wait.
Yeah yeah that is what an amazing story i mean you've had a whole life full
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of encounters and being around all of this non-human intelligence and different
kinds of ways researchers,
investigators using your own remote viewing powers your own intuitive skills
so what what can you tell us about the whole alien presence?
You know, there's this whole sense out there in the national narrative these
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days that it's a national security issue, which I think is a lot of baloney in my opinion.
But I wonder what you think. Should we be afraid?
Okay, okay, okay. There's different levels here. And that's what I want to break it down to.
There's levels of the fact that abductions were real and are real.
And those are pretty traumatic. And I don't care what they say.
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It's not done for our good. It's done for theirs.
And there's now a lot of talk that it's also the military. Or maybe it's always
been the military. We actually don't know that.
But number one, that's not a pleasant experience.
And I have memories of that too. So not pleasant.
So there is a reason to be afraid of that. But I don't know if that's happening so much anymore.
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But I was also a contactee. And, and,
And that began that I really became conscious of that when I left the desert,
when I left Arizona and I moved back to L.A., I went to this event the very first month I was there.
And I had been seeing, it's crazy, I went to bed the night before this event
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that was being put on by Portal to Ascension in 2011 or 12.
And I went to bed and the night before I went, I had all these ETs circling
around me in my room. and that had never happened to me before.
Every time I opened my eyes or closed them, they were circling.
And I go to this event and there's a table and man, it takes a while for the names to come back.
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She's the ET sculptor. She was known as the ET sculptor. So I walk in and on
a table, there's a table with all of these ETs, all the different kinds.
And there's the one that was surrounding me all night long. And he was a tall white.
And I took him home. And when I took him home, he started downloading information
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to me 24-7. He would tell me where to take him.
He would tell me, oh, you got to take me with you here.
And he freaked people out.
But I would take this extraterrestrial with me because I was having a lot of contact.
And I had my first regression then and realized that that actually was quite powerful,
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that I'm really here to turn on people's light and raise their vibration and
everything that I had known, but they confirmed it for me.
So my my my bottom
line is this there's ets that are
really here to support us and many
of my friends have star families that download
information and heal them and do amazing things for them or with them and so
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we have a star family all of us all of us who are probably listening to this
and involved in the et world know that so we have a star family we have the Galactic Federation,
and that is real.
We have evidence they shut down the nuclear weapons in the 50s. Right.
However, behind all that, I do believe that,
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and it's taken me a few years to come to this, but I do believe that there's
a reptilian force that has actually are the Earth's controllers and that are
still here and that have enslaved us.
And so they're in the background manipulating all the world events.
And they've been in the background probably for thousands of years and manipulated
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our wars and our life on this planet.
Many people have talked about this and have had encounters with reptilian-type aliens.
And it even, you can look back at the historic record and things like petroglyphs and Egyptian carvings,
ancient Sumerian carvings, and there are things that look like reptilian aliens in human history.
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If it looks like a reptilian, it is a reptilian, you know.
That's all I can tell you. You see a reptilian head, that is not human.
Okay, when you look at, and I was in, I took two groups of people to Egypt this summer.
So I saw these hieroglyphs myself. I saw a hieroglyph in the Luxor Temple where
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several people were freaking out because they saw murders that had happened.
They saw hundreds of people in that plaza being slayed and they couldn't tolerate
the energy. But right there on the hieroglyph there, there was an image where
you could see that they were cloning humanity.
They were cloning humans. Humans were sort of laying down in a row with a feeding tube.
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They were being cloned and created, not just to be slaves, but also as food.
We were very tasty. see but and and
you know so when the gods in the bible said bow down
before me right you know we're you know attack
jericho or we'll i'll slay you right there's so many biblical stories the whole
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book of enoch talks about all kinds it's all true it's all true and when you're
in egypt walking around and you see these hieroglyphs that are talking about
that well when they get translated for you,
but you can see these images and you understand that these gods were not here to help us.
They were here to use us and abuse us and they haven't left.
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And there's so many signs that they're still here. And I have seen a reptilian.
Revealed. But it was a good reptilian. And I was with a friend who had been bragging.
She said, she came in as a client. And as I'm working with her,
I said, Oh, my God, I see it. I see an implant.
And she said, Oh, yeah, that was, you know, a week ago, I was at such and such
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place, which wasn't far from where we lived. And she said, I saw a ship and they were reptilian.
She said, but I, they didn't get me or, you know, they didn't take me aboard
their ship and And nothing happened.
Well, here I see, you know, this implant right here.
And I didn't know in those days about how to remove them energetically.
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But a week or two later, I'm at her house. We're having a glass of wine and talking.
And the next thing I know, her face, the skin of her face comes off.
It's peeled back. She was, you know, I was looking at her from the side. Peels it back.
And she's pure reptilian head. pretty scary looking, and her voice changed.
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Really? And her voice was like very far away.
It was a deeper sound. It wasn't her voice. It lasted 60 to 90 seconds,
and then she was back to normal.
So do you think it was the implant that was transmitting that to happen,
or do you think she actually was fully a reptilian?
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Well, I think she was a good reptilian, didn't know it, and or maybe they had
taken her over or activated that part.
And I discovered reading another one of Whitley Strieber's books that made me
realize that I also have some good reptilian in me.
Yeah. Many of us do.
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And it's not a bad thing in that way.
It's not a bad thing because there are good reptilians and bad reptilians.
More bad than good, but we need the good reptilians because they're the only
ones who have the inner knowingness of dismantling the reptilians.
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See, that's an interesting point right there. And I think any society,
whether it's human or any kind of alien, there's always going to be people who
are walking in the light and beautiful and doing good for others.
And then there's always going to be people on the other side of that equation.
And then most of us are in the middle somewhere. We're beautiful and awesome,
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Some days and some days we can be real crabby.
We do the best we can. We do the best we can. We're fifth dimensional frequencies
walking around in a 3D body.
Right. Right. That's right. Exactly. And I was like, did you ever see the TV
show Third Rock from the Sun? Yes.
And you see them getting in those bodies and it's kind of, it's exactly the
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way it is, you know, in these 3D bodies of ours. And we have to learn to manage.
And it's not set up for us to ascend. That's, you know, on us.
Right. To get activated and turn up our light and remember why we're here. Yeah.
So how can we remember why we're here? This probably brings us full circle back
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to your angelic awakening.
We got stuck on Kingman. Well, Kingman is really important, especially when
you're telling me it's in the news.
So now I'm intimately involved with that crash site.
I could actually talk about it with people. Yeah. Holy moly.
I know. This is your moment to shine. Well, every moment is your moment to sign
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Joan, but you've got an opportunity here with Kingman.
And everyone's talking about it on UFO Twitter, whatever they call it, all over UFO Reddit.
Believe me, it is the number one conversation for the last nine weeks.
Who's going to want me on their show?
But anyway, with the ETs, when I was on the ship in this regression,
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and I had all that group. my Baja paranormal group was on the ship.
They were all like this, clunked out, like eyes closed and asleep in a trance.
And my job was up on stage. I was bringing one person at a time up and in my
chair, and I was aligning their antenna with the heavens and the earth.
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And I was tuning it up for every person. And they said, well,
your job, and I knew this, I didn't need them to tell me this,
but your job is that you've made an agreement that your job is to turn up everyone's
light and vibration and you agreed not to ever come.
And not to leave the planet until every person's vibration was truly aligned.
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And I cried because it was what I know I'm here to do.
And I am here to help you guys remember who you are and step into your greatest gifts.
Because just like Dolores Cannon says, we're volunteers. We all said,
oh, yes, bring it on. I want to go.
We did. And we didn't come down here empty handed. We came down here with a toolkit of skills.
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You all have different skills, but you're all Jedis in your own skills.
And part of awakening is to start to recall those skills and start to use them
and activate them and learn to master them.
But the biggest thing I tell people is that the first thing to remember is that
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you need to turn up your light.
We're here to carry this light because
it's the light that will transform the darkness.
Yeah you know you're kind
of answering live's question here can we actually be aliens with zero awareness
and you can be you can be but you're not an alien you're you're human you're
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a person in the physical form here as a quote human who may have been born or
comes from a star far, far away, a galaxy,
you know, like the movie, a galaxy far away.
And you came here distinctly because you had the tools and the skills to do what you came here to do.
So if you don't remember, here's the first clue.
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Anyone who was called to come on this show, number one, you're being activated by Birdie and me.
As we're speaking, we're raising your your vibration, and your frequency to help you remember.
Yeah. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. We are helping you to remember.
Kay says, we are the ground crew. We are.
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And Kay and her herself is a ground crew. I love that woman. I do too. She's awesome.
Oh, that's so great. I actually know people in Albuquerque now. Beautiful.
Beautiful. Yeah. So we're meant to remember. And as we remember,
but remember the other part.
Just like the light knows that you're here to make a difference,
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so does the dark. dark and the dark has an agenda and they send agents against you.
The agents, from the time you show up in the body, there's also a plan or a
group that doesn't want you to step into your power, doesn't want you to be
free to be, doesn't even want you to remember.
They wanted you to remember, they wouldn't put in all those screen memories.
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With that being said, understand when you look back at your life, you can go,
well, who in my life was actually unintentionally an agent of the dark that
was here, that part of their mission was to make sure I didn't make it, that I didn't remember.
Because an empowered human on this planet is critical.
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The more of us who wake up, the stronger we get,
the more we align our light with each other, the more likely we are to rid the
planet of those dark agenda alien reptilians who have been acting as the overlords for way too long.
I don't know about you, but I'm not good at complying. I do not comply. Yeah, neither do I.
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And that compliance gene has to come out, right? That's right.
Because all the humans created by these Anunnaki gods, they put in a compliance gene.
So you would not think, not question, not wake up, not remember.
So if you're not remembering, we need to remove your compliance gene and awaken
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your third eye, which has been covered over by all the crap.
You know, you just look up and the chemtrail hits it. Yep. Yep.
I, you know, I think that that's so true.
I've been doing remote viewing for almost 30 years.
And, and in working with a lot of different people, I've discovered that,
you know, people think they're a psychic brick.
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And they don't understand that they're just as powerful as every other person
on the planet. And just seeing somebody awaken from that is such a joy.
Going from disbelieving that they can connect with absolutely everything,
anytime, anyplace, and then finding out, oh my gosh, I'm everywhere all at once. It's beautiful.
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That is beautiful. I like that. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Good description, Bertie. Oh, thank you.
So we've got a question for you here. With your vast experiences from angels
to aliens to all kinds of interdimensionals, what is the message for humanity?
Is there hope for our future? You know what? Live light. What a beautiful name, live light.
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Yes, there's so much hope. We're in that ascension timeline.
And at this moment in time, and I guess this happens maybe every 22,000 years
or something, where the light is coming together for this ascension time on planet, it is real.
So there's two timelines that are
coming together one is more the dark timeline and
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one is more the positive awakening and free
humanity timeline and so
you get to choose but the more of us that choose that timeline the more we create
it in the future and we turn it into reality so actually we are responsible
for stepping into and onto this new timeline so yes there is hope for humanity humanity.
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We want to go back to, is there hope for you?
What are you doing that's going to help you to step into your best life now,
to be the best you can be, to not be covered up in fear, to say, I do not comply.
You know, I'm free to be me. And by doing that, you step into a group of light
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beings like yourself that are joining forces energetically to bring about this new age.
Because the dark is really trying. I don't know if you know anything about Frank
Jacob and his Looking Glass project, but I did a couple of shows with Frank.
And that's the truth. There is that other timeline. So is it a done deal that
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we're going to all go on this ascension timeline? No, but it's very likely.
Now, the last time humanity tried to fight off the overlords was in the 1500s.
And in those days, the giants woke up to help them.
And so there was actually an alliance between humanity and the giants to revolt
and throw off our overlords or the controllers,
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whatever you want to call them but we lost and so some of the facts that we
some of the things that we see now where they're just you know making it impossible
to see our history and they've lied and covered up they've covered up everything
the giants the beautiful tartarian buildings,
all of that really went into effect after the we lost that war but we're coming
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back that's you You know,
that's really a great point because we have so many fascinating megalithic structures
across our whole planet, and they're enormous.
They could not have been built simply by the humans of the time.
There had to have been some kind of involvement with somebody else or some kind
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of technology that we didn't know existed at the time.
And I agree that a lot of our history is covered up. I put a lot of stuff about
giants on my Telegram channel.
So everything about me is at Joan of Angels.
And if you're interested in the in the Tartarian or the giants,
go look at my my channel because I go around the world looking for evidence
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that the giants were here in big, big time. Awesome.
All of Joan's links are in the show notes, gang.
All of her links, her Instagram, her website, her Telegram.
You've got to check out her artwork. Let's talk about that, Joan.
You do these amazing spiritual paintings, and when I look at them,
I can feel my heart opening, truly.
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They're incredible. How did you get into art, and what are you doing when you paint?
Well, first of all, I want you to know I was never born an artist.
My mother and brother made me swear on someone's body that I would never become an artist.
So I have violated that. They told me to be a bookkeeper.
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So that didn't work out. But in 2013, in a very dark moment when I really was
praying for a miracle, I heard this voice that paint 33 angels in 30 days,
which was too much work for me.
I was like, no, no, no. Nope. And then I heard the voice again.
And then by the third time, I realized that this was my way,
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this was going to be my miracle. And I said, yes.
And I put them up on the wall and a book falls off the bookshelf that says your
call for angelic assistance has been heard.
Now, that's how I got into painting. And these days I do mostly digital because
I travel too much to have a studio.
And these digital pieces are the way I work is that I kind of blend and merge
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with the angelics, with my guides. I just ask for clarity.
And then I just go about kind of going into a trance and I create it.
I create it on my computer.
I could create it on my phone. and I just, I'm like on another universe until I'm done.
And some of them are portals. I do a lot of portals.
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Well, I was the executive producer for Portal to Ascension, which is kind of interesting.
I'm always about portals, but I do mystical landscapes.
I had a woman in Greece when I was showing my art there with the Stargate people.
She came up and she said, Joan, do you remember when we
were interdimensional and on like the 11th dimension
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and this was our temple so i have
people coming up and validating these stargates or
these temples that they've been there before and then
i have a line of angelic ones in in
the gods and goddesses but the interesting
thing is i also offer an art activation so you
take a piece home and we can do an activation online
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which actually aligns you in the
painting so it becomes a vibrational tool
much like that when I bought that statue of the tall white from Cynthia her
name was Cynthia and Cynthia Crawford so that that tall white would download
information to me the art does that and then this year I started offering.
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A special, really special, only for
certain people, I call it soul essence portraits, they're soul aspects.
What I realized is that we all have 20, 30, 100 soul aspects,
and I'll do a session with them, and the soul aspects will come to me.
And I create a video for you of your soul aspects, and then we send it to you
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as a painting, so that you can never forget who you are.
Because once we see who you are, we bring that together.
You know, I've been broken into 33 fractals this lifetime.
That's all I can tell you. I'm kind of a walk-in, but it took 33 aspects of
me coming together for me to be a walk-in, which is why I'm not at all like I was. Right.
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Wow. Well, Kay is saying here that your paintings are a miracle, beautiful of energies.
So in all fairness, I have met Kay. She came to see me when I was in Santa Fe,
right when the pandemic began in 2020.
And we had a big love-in at the time. So I'm really happy to see her. And thank you, Kay.
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Yes, I think she has a scarf or something of mine.
Okay, Kay, I'll get that back at the next meeting.
I don't know. I'm going to come to your meetings when I'm in that part of the
country. You can come stay right in my house.
I'm going to. I'm already jazzed. I'm super jazzed, too. This is so much fun.
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So what do you think are some things that we can do?
Regular people, I mean, everyone's not regular, right?
Everyone's an incredible fifth-dimensional, multi-dimensional,
fractal, gorgeous energy creature.
But sometimes we feel like a regular person and we have trouble connecting to
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those extra layers of ourselves.
What can we do to start accessing that?
Well, in five minutes or less.
So, you know, it takes a commitment. You really can get up every day and ask to be shown the way.
It's as simple as that. You know, you have a cup of tea, a cup of coffee.
You have your notebook out. You can go, please, you know, tell me what I'm supposed to be doing.
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But even if you're not getting those answers, the most important thing is activating yourself.
Okay? And when I say that, so I have something on my website called Wing Fluffing.
In fact, I'm not going to be doing them much more, but they are still there.
In case you're interested.
And in the wing flapping, I kind of teach you how to carry, embody that presence
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and that energy and that high vibration.
When you learn how to actually, even in your physicality, carry that presence
with you, that's the first step.
Because that'll change your tone.
It'll change the way you see yourself. It'll change the way other people see you.
And so, you know, I guess I'll be doing programs in the near future on power.
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What do I call it? Purpose, passion, purpose, power, passion, purpose.
There's four words and I didn't get them all in passion, purpose, presence, and house.
Presence. So if you can activate that presence, and you can activate your,
you know, your passion for connecting before you know it.
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And there are tools, you know, that I could teach you, but that begins with your attitude.
It's like, okay, I'm sick of being sick. I'm sick of being stuck.
You know, I'm opening up room for the true me to start to come out.
So sometimes we can do it first physically in our presence to allow it to come out.
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And I have lots of videos on my YouTube channel that talk about stepping into
the light, raising your light.
And I'm going to be starting a new show in a couple of weeks and I'm going to
have Birdie on it, just so you all know. Yay.
And the name of the show is going to be Turn Up Your Light with Joan of Angels.
Ah. They just told me yesterday. I haven't even put it all together yet. Wow.
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So what other kinds of messages do you have for us today? Anything that we should focus on, think about?
Give me a second. Okay. Yeah. I just want to tune in to what it is that our guides.
So the first thing they're telling me is, well, let's be at peace.
Be at peace because we, or you, you and I, we're all at the exact right place
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at the exact right moment of the planet and of history and of ourselves.
We came here to really have an important place in humanity's evolution.
And we do it by staying strong. We do it by just holding on and extending our
antenna up to the heavens and our roots down to the earth.
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And just the more you extend that antenna up to the heavens and sort of anchor
it in, the more you're going to bring down that celestial light.
But understand that these are the times for which you and I came. We're here.
I mean, if you think about it, I don't know about you, but I'm 20 and 20. It's like, oh, my God.
Everything was going so good. Why am I here during what looks like now the worst of times?
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However, of course, I was quickly instructed on what was really going on.
We were being cocooned and trained for the now because now is the time for which we are called.
Many people are going to be waking up, although many people are still going to stay asleep.
The chaos is going to get worse. You know, I know this is evergreen,
but as long as we're talking about it, the upcoming, you know,
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the upcoming election, things are going to be so chaotic.
But understand that all is unfolding for the highest good of all of us.
And that as we break down the old, the new is coming. You are here to stay strong.
You are here to be awake to, you know, when people start to freak out,
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to say, oh, I know what's going on. Don't worry.
This is all part of the evolution.
This is an exciting time to be alive, Lana. You are so right.
And that's why you're here. You know, I tried to freak out in 2020.
There was a time by the summer that's like, oh, God, what am I going to do?
And I was doing a show then called Corona Toolkit.
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Now, it's a good thing I stopped because then I would have been banned because
it was all about what you can do to treat the flu, you know, to treat yourself.
But I was doing this show and I was starting to freak out, you know,
should I freak out like everyone else or what should I do?
Heard a voice, said, you're Joan of Angels. You're telling everyone you're that
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one and only Joan of Angels.
If you really are Joan of Angels, either you step up and do what you came here
to do or move over and there'll be a Joan of Angels too.
Wow. That's a powerful message. Yes. And I'm giving you that message.
If you don't want to, or you're not ready to say yes, even if you don't know
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what that yes is, you can say, yes, I'm open to the light.
I'm open to building my own energetic light no matter what.
So if you're, you know, we're required to say yes or no now,
because to To be one of the chosen ones, you must choose.
And these are the times for which you raised your hand eons ago and said, yes.
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Don't go hide in your bed and throw the blanket over your head and pillows and
get under the bed. I mean.
They really reamed me. And they said, it's your choice, Joan.
You know, you could choose to go to a simple life and not do this.
Or you can do what you came here to do.
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And I'm giving you all the same choice. You can say, you know,
things are really going to be hairy the next period of time, and this is exciting.
I know that the Galactic Council is right here. The Alliance is right here.
I also know that we're going to break, you know, just have that certainty we're
going to break free and remove that compliance gene, and that's the other thing,
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removing, energetically removing that compliance gene.
Think of it maybe as a cork in your throat chakra, which the patriarch was put
in, all of us, so we wouldn't speak up.
Wow, that is so interesting. And because you were telling me earlier this week,
as members of my group know, I was bitten by a black widow spider and had a very serious reaction.
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And Joan pointed out to me that that can happen.
That's a message that you're not speaking out, you're not opening your voice.
And I think that that was true for me. So this is really resonating with me.
Also know that that that's what's called
spider medicine in the indigenous world
you have spider medicine you have
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a spider totem now and so it would be good to embrace that aspect and the messages
of everything is designed to wake us up you know everything is designed to give
us a message especially when you say yes i'm ready i want to hear all of you
go yes i'm ready yes Yes, I'm ready.
Yes, and it's important because one of our first questions was,
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are we going to make it as a species?
Are we going to evolve here to the ascension and to the new earth? And I say yes.
Also, I'll be doing and running a new earth symposium next month.
Oh, that's exciting. Let's hear about this. Well, we have a group of about eight
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of us, and we'll all have our presentations on what is the new earth and I'll
be doing a panel in a couple of days so.
I'll release that to all of you. But the panel will be with speakers.
Laura Eisenhower is one of our speakers on how to evolve into this new Earth.
What the heck does it mean for us?
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And how do we get from here to there?
You're going to have to hold on. It will be a bumpy ride. I'm not going to promise
you that it's not a bumpy ride.
I'm only reminding you that you volunteered for it. It's always a bumpy ride, Joan.
It has been a bumpy ride. planet earth is
the most difficult planet in the galactic
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world it is only they send people here
who need training who need who agree to the hardest kinds of training because
this is not a piece of cake and they've even set it up so that it's almost impossible
to reincarnate it to reincarnate out of here so and and you're born you may
have this toolkit but the rules changed again.
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Every lifetime, they've changed the rules, they've changed the timeline,
they've changed the history.
You don't know if you're in 2024 or if you're in 1524.
Wow. I can feel that. I can feel that in my soul.
I have bits and pieces, memories from past lives, and I feel like I'm still
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struggling against some of the same things.
Well, let's remove the word struggle and let's just say that those are the things
that the dark side wants you to focus on instead of the things you can do. Oh, I like this.
You know, and as I, okay, here we're going to talk about the heavenly part.
You cannot take a wheelbarrow to heaven when you leave here.
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Way too heavy. All your crap is in that wheelbarrow. And as humans,
we like to carry that wheel. We like to lead with that baggage,
you know, and carry it with us. Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's not going to get you anywhere. I love that. That is such a great analogy.
Yeah, you can't take it with you. You can't take all your struggles and your fears with you.
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No, you really can't. You can't. You really can't. And the older you get,
the clearer that gets. Right.
So when I coach people, we go to the mountaintop. I have a little cafe up there
called Joan of Angels Cafe.
I give you chai tea. no coffee chai tea and we sit and we talk and we literally look at the world below,
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where you are where your body is running around so
we can have a new perspective on your life and on what you're doing and on your
soul aspects so the soul portraits are really a soul retrieval shamanic experience
in essence but we we have to go to a state of neutrality a state of looking
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at the big picture in order to understand the picture. Right.
That makes a lot of sense. And how do you think with all of this transformation
happening, how do you think all of those alien UFO disclosure efforts are tying into this?
Do you feel that that's part of the plan?
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Or is it obfuscation?
Where do you see the disclosure? nothing happens by accident
yeah nothing on the planet everything is haven't
you ever noticed synchronicities that are too impossible to explain as if someone
planned it yeah so everything is known in advance and and this push for disclosure
that we have and the government's push to not let us know and then this back
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and forth it's all designed to just keep you all in a state of anxiety,
waiting for that day where they have that false flag,
you know, and I don't really buy any of it, of what the government's doing or how it is.
The disclosure is happening among us, the people, the people who've had UFO
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contacts, the people who know that they're hearing them or seeing them or feeling them.
Cynthia Crocker, she's still online even though she passed away. She's known as the E.T.
Sculptor. Her dad was in the Air Force, and she was actually genetically cloned,
was a real, you know, like not taken on a ship. She was really genetically cloned.
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So she was half hybrid or half E.T.
And she told me that they'd come in her living room kind of so she could do
sculptures of them. And she had clear sight.
So I say that the hope for humanity is it lies in our hands.
You know, if you want to go scurrying under your bedclothes because it's just
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too much for you, you know, you might as well do it now and let someone else
take your place because you're all hands on deck.
This is the time we've been praying for. You can call it the solar flash,
the grand awakening, the ascension, whatever it is, we are actually in it.
But it's going to look messy because we're separating from an old world with
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an old paradigm with old controllers who we're breaking free from.
Yes. So I guess what is my final message? Yeah, your final message.
Get that compliance gene out of you.
I love it. Get that compliance implant gone. And your whole world will clear up.
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Thank you, Joan. You have been such an absolute delight. You've given all of
us so much to think about. And I'm grateful for your presence.
Thank you. I didn't expect to go here in the ways that we did.
But I'm happy because it was exactly what was meant. And I think you really
unleashed something for me when you talked about the Kingman crashes.
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Because actually, I'm really probably not supposed to talk about it.
But he's gone. So I can't.
And I'm even going to look and see if I kept any files.
Look that up. Files. Yeah, look that up. And it's your time to shine,
Joan. There's no question.
All right. So I'm looking forward to everyone's feedback. I will be seeing you all.
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If any of you who are in Albuquerque, Santa Fe area, I definitely will be there
by August and hang out with Birdie.
That's right. We're going to have an awesome time.
So thank you, Joan. And Joan, if you don't mind hanging out for just two minutes
while I've got a special... Guys, you're going to laugh and you're going to groan.
I made a little ridiculous music video for our group.
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And I just thought everyone would get a good laugh. I actually have been working
on a theme song for the podcast and that I wrote myself.
And I'm going to unveil that later this summer. I want to actually record it in studio.
But so this is just silly. This is not our official theme song.
It's just to make everyone I think you're great.
So guys, if you need anything, I have any questions or you want a personal session,
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and go to my website, Joan of angels.com Look at the art.
See how, if it's calling you. Look at the art.
Definitely. Check out all of Joan's
stuff. And we will be talking with her again. I guarantee it. Me too.
Okay. Love you all. And we'll see you on the flip side. Hey, everybody.
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Music.
Welcome to Albuquerque UFO UAP Explorations.
My name is Bertie, and it is my absolute honor and pleasure to introduce a remarkable
individual, Joan of Angels.
Joan is not just a healer, but a cosmic spiritual leader and activator,
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an angel of light whose life's mission transcends the ordinary and touches the
very essence of our cosmic journey.
Joan's work is intuitively guided, focusing on personal transformation and providing
her clients with the necessary skills and healing to live happier, healthier lives.
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Joan is known as an oracle of ancient wisdom, a visionary artist,
and a spiritual advisor whose influence extends into public speaking, acting, and modeling.
Her role as a dedicated wing fluffer highlights her commitment to nurturing
and guiding the galactic community of lightworkers,
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starseeds, and earthly galactic beings, encouraging them to step into their
visions and live their true mission.
As a high priestess, Joan works in partnership with the Portal to Ascension,
promoting world tours and opening portals in sacred places.
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Her work aims at reestablishing ancient mystery schools across the planet,
making the old wisdoms accessible for the new age.
Today, as we converse with Joan of Angels, let us open our minds and hearts
to the wisdom she brings from the cosmos, poised to elevate and transform.
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Join us in this journey of enlightenment and cosmic discovery with Joan,
a true Angel of Light who walks among us.
Joan, welcome. I'm so glad you're here. Whoa, I want to meet that woman.
I'm so glad to be here too, Birdie. That was excellent.
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Oh my God, thank you. It's my pleasure.
Everyone should know what an incredible being you are. Thank you.
So let's get started from the beginning.
You've had a big transformation in your life from, you know,
your youth to where you are today.
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And I mean, we're all young souls, right? So.
We're all growing. We're all on this journey. And we're all growing.
And you're not, people like us who are connected to the stars are not the same
when we grow older as we were in the beginning, because we have to wake up.
That's right. We come here to wake up. We don't come here to be asleep.
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And so if you're listening on your path, you will be different.
Yes. Yeah, I know I've had incredible transformations multiple times in my life,
and I would love to hear about what got you started on this spiritual journey.
Well, I'm going to start by saying I think I've always been on the spiritual journey.
And I would lay in bed and the paintings on the wall would move.
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Now, I didn't see well, but still, I'd see angels in them.
And suddenly I'd find myself transported into the artwork on the wall when I was a little girl.
And I'd be walking among angels and tall beings and goddesses,
even as a child. I didn't know what that meant.
But as I grew older, I had a terrible, terrible, terrible fear of being alone
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in the house in closets. I mean, terrified.
Wow. And I've had, I could tell you, I've had 33 different awakening moments.
My soul aspects, to call them back, there's been 33 fragments.
But what I think is really appropriate here is that when I saw years ago,
it was in the In the 1980s, there was a book that was being released by,
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of course, his name skips. It was on ETs.
It was ETs. It had a picture of a tall gray on the book.
His name will come back to me. And it was touted on the New York Times and everywhere.
And I said to myself, I got to buy this book. In fact, I better order the book
because it's going to be sold out.
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And that's what I thought was going to be sold out. I was shocked when it wasn't.
And as I'm reading the book, it's Whitley Stryber's first book,
I think, as I'm reading it, he says, if you're reading this book,
you might have been abducted.
You might have been abducted. And if you're afraid of closets,
you definitely were abducted.
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And man, that hit me in my belly.
I mean, that really freaked me out.
And I didn't do anything about it because I was living a typical life.
I was a chiropractor. I was too busy.
And then I was a mother. And then something else hit where I met these people
who started talking about.
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God, names just take a while. He's the one who talked about the Anunnaki.
Zacharias Ditchin? Yeah, Zacharias. So she's a walking treasure trove of everything about him.
She's sitting in the living room telling me all about the story of the Anunnaki.
And I get really hit. And I start painting. I totally forgot about this.
I started painting spaceships.
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And at some point, I realized, oh, my God, I have to get these spaceships out
of my room. I'm going to give the paintings away because I'm attracting spaceships into my life.
So that was my beginning of understanding that I've been a contactee and I've
been abducted and I have children, you know, hybrid children.
It was really the beginning of that for me.
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Wow. It's so funny. I had the same experience with Whitley Striever's book.
I was in my first marriage at the time and had little kids. This was whenever
it came out a long time ago now.
And I bought it when we were visiting my parents.
My parents lived in Wichita, Kansas, and we were staying in the basement of
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their home. And I was up all night reading that book and just terrified.
I had all these memories come back. It was incredible that I had that same experience with that book.
Yeah, that book completely, completely, it was an aha, but it terrified me even more. Yeah.
So that's how I began. That wasn't my angelic awakening, but that was my actual ET.
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And I started to go to all sorts of ET events.
And I was up in San Francisco. And that's how I dived in and really discovered that I was a contactee.
And I moved to Baja at one point and I had a group down in Baja for a year called
Baja Paranormal because I wanted to meet other people interested in UFOs so
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the whole patriot community or expats we had like 100 people it was great.
Wow. That's very cool. Yeah.
Yeah. So how did your, your angelic awakening happen?
So you have your non-human intelligence awakening, your alien awakening,
and now another side of a multifaceted coin.
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You know, I've been on George Norrie twice and both times, all he wants to talk
about is UFOs and Angels, or UTs and Angels, the first show,
the second show, kind of all about how they fit together.
But I started, so I was a chiropractor for many years, and then I had to,
I was injured and I had to do other things.
And I began realizing that the biggest thing in my life was miracles.
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I began teaching people miracles and experiencing miracles, et cetera.
But at some At some point, things went sour again for me.
Oh, yes. After I had been researching the UFO, the Kingman UFO crashes, things went sour.
Man, we have to talk about Kingman. Remind me to talk about Kingman.
Because that has been in the news this past week.
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Oh, oh my God. Please send me links to that. Christopher Mellon,
the ex-undersecretary for defense, pointed out that it was a real event that happened.
And he posted some names redacted correspondence that he had with people in
the Department of Defense where they confirmed that they retrieved an intact crash.
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And it just happened this week. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. And I'm talking to
Joan. This is not a coincidence.
No way. Oh, my God. Yeah. OK, so send me that link or even post it in the chat here.
But I was intimately involved with a man by the name of Harry Drew.
And Harry Drew had thoroughly researched the 1953 Kingman UFO crashes.
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And according to Harry, there were actually three.
Yes, there were three crashes that happened in that period of time.
I think only one is known about, but there were three. And I went to all the crash sites with him.
I explored them with him. I saw the evidence.
I helped him make his movie, which I actually gave him the title.
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I think he called it Seven Days in May. Really exciting.
And yeah, I was intimately involved in that whole discovery of the land where they had been on.
We found all the evidence of the military and that they had been there because
they left all these cans of condensed milk that Harry, who was a true researcher,
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had traced back to the 50s.
That's when that can was made in the 50s is condensed milk,
We found radioactive activity. And every time we went to the first landing,
to that first landing site, some strange truck would drive up and start talking
about us and suggesting we go somewhere else.
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And one time they had all had, you know, weapons.
Now there was some kind of patrol. So they would always know when we would show
up. And yeah, it was kind of, it was intimidating for me because,
you know, just a normal human here. It's scary. Yeah.
But it was really exciting. And the second crash site that we went to was,
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you had to be really careful because of all the snakes and scorpions.
And that too was quite a story because the second crash site,
Harry speculated, and I think he was right, that they were coming back to pick
up the first guys that were left.
So the first crash site, there were four beings, and they were all alive when
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the military, when the Air Force came to retrieve them.
Wow. And they were taken quite a ways, and the ship had landed like this.
I guess I'm intimately involved with the crash. Yeah, okay, I'm happy to talk
about it. Oh, this is exciting.
It's news. All right. So the ship was at a 30-degree angle in the ground.
More like this okay okay and and
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they tried to carry it on one of
those flatbeds to where did harry say
that they went to i haven't talked about a long time you have to suggest some
of the military bases but he took they took it to this base but they couldn't
get it to go flat yeah so they actually had to go back and and bring the the
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crew members with them because the ship would not lay down flat.
It would only go like this. And they were taken alive.
But a week later, another crash landed about five miles over the mountain,
so on the other side of those mountains.
And it was flat. It broke into, I think, 1,000 pieces or so.
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Oh, my gosh. That must have taken some cleanup there. Well, the Air Force did their cleanup.
And I know I went with Harry. we researched certain records in the Historical Society in Kingman.
There was mention in one historical record, there was mention of it.
And then there was another mention a year or two earlier of a ship that,
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of a fire that was in the mountain. And they found some strange guys that were
there and they brought them in and they locked them downstairs in the courthouse.
Harry took people to the courthouse. It was crazy.
We did these chores in the courthouse. And this guy was locked downstairs in
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the prison cell, which was reinforced with concrete.
You could not do a Houdini and escape. Right.
And he was down there. When they came down to question him, he was nowhere to
be found. So there were strange incidents like that.
So they were scouting out Kingman for sure.
And Kingman is a hotbed because when I stayed with Harry in the desert,
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we, twice a week, at least, we would have ships out in the backyard where no one was.
Oh, that is insane. I have heard that it's a hot spot, that whole area.
I've driven through there multiple times. And it always has a feeling to me
almost otherworldly, like maybe there's a portal there or some kind of a thin
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veil makes it. I don't know.
I keep thinking I might be able to find it.
You know, the crash site. I have a clear idea of how we got there.
Yeah. And I've wanted to go back. At the back of Harry's house,
twice a week, we would see these ships and there was a big, these orbs would come towards the house.
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And one day, you know, Harry called me to look in the camera and one orb was
so big, it completely blocked out my car.
You couldn't see the car. It was that big and it was solid. It was solid.
You couldn't see through it. So yes, it is a hot hotbed.
It is true that these, I'm so glad that they're verifying or validating because
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Harry got a lot of flack from it.
The real, you know, the other UFO researchers really gave him a lot of flack.
And the other thing, the Kingman crash was 1953 or 55.
But you know, you can look at Harry's movie, Seven Days in May,
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Harry Drew, H-A-R-R-Y-D-R-E-W, and go take a look at it.
Harry had been a former museum director and was a true researcher.
His research was so valid. Someone actually tried to steal his domain name,
which was harrydrew.com. Yes, yes, yes.
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When he first brought me in to help him, I had to work hard to recover.
We know who took it to someone in the UFO world, I won't say,
but yeah, we worked really hard to recover that one.
Wow, you know, there are always a lot of shenanigans when you start getting
close to the truth in these different areas.
And it's amazing the kind of energy that that brings up, the chaotic energy, government energy.
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Negativity toward you it's amazing what can
happen yeah yeah so he did not get acceptance
from the ufo community on his work
in that way that is absolutely fascinating and it's just so interesting that
you know you're here talking with us now and yeah i know and it just that's
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right that's right that this was a real crash retrieval they have a whole intact
one of the The craft was mostly intact.
And apparently that's been reverse engineered.
Well, that's the one that was at the angle this way. And on those days,
I was getting a lot of flashbacks.
I could literally, I remote viewed it and I can see them walking around the ship.
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Oh, my dear friend, Kay, you missed the beginning. Oh, well, we had a private talk.
I'm going to be in your area this year, this summer.
Joan is coming out and we're going to put on a special show.
Oh, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. I can't wait.
Yeah yeah that is what an amazing story i mean you've had a whole life full
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of encounters and being around all of this non-human intelligence and different
kinds of ways researchers,
investigators using your own remote viewing powers your own intuitive skills
so what what can you tell us about the whole alien presence?
You know, there's this whole sense out there in the national narrative these
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days that it's a national security issue, which I think is a lot of baloney in my opinion.
But I wonder what you think. Should we be afraid?
Okay, okay, okay. There's different levels here. And that's what I want to break it down to.
There's levels of the fact that abductions were real and are real.
And those are pretty traumatic. And I don't care what they say.
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It's not done for our good. It's done for theirs.
And there's now a lot of talk that it's also the military. Or maybe it's always
been the military. We actually don't know that.
But number one, that's not a pleasant experience.
And I have memories of that too. So not pleasant.
So there is a reason to be afraid of that. But I don't know if that's happening so much anymore.
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But I was also a contactee. And, and,
And that began that I really became conscious of that when I left the desert,
when I left Arizona and I moved back to L.A., I went to this event the very first month I was there.
And I had been seeing, it's crazy, I went to bed the night before this event
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that was being put on by Portal to Ascension in 2011 or 12.
And I went to bed and the night before I went, I had all these ETs circling
around me in my room. and that had never happened to me before.
Every time I opened my eyes or closed them, they were circling.
And I go to this event and there's a table and man, it takes a while for the names to come back.
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She's the ET sculptor. She was known as the ET sculptor. So I walk in and on
a table, there's a table with all of these ETs, all the different kinds.
And there's the one that was surrounding me all night long. And he was a tall white.
And I took him home. And when I took him home, he started downloading information
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to me 24-7. He would tell me where to take him.
He would tell me, oh, you got to take me with you here.
And he freaked people out.
But I would take this extraterrestrial with me because I was having a lot of contact.
And I had my first regression then and realized that that actually was quite powerful,
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that I'm really here to turn on people's light and raise their vibration and
everything that I had known, but they confirmed it for me.
So my my my bottom
line is this there's ets that are
really here to support us and many
of my friends have star families that download
information and heal them and do amazing things for them or with them and so
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we have a star family all of us all of us who are probably listening to this
and involved in the et world know that so we have a star family we have the Galactic Federation,
and that is real.
We have evidence they shut down the nuclear weapons in the 50s. Right.
However, behind all that, I do believe that,
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and it's taken me a few years to come to this, but I do believe that there's
a reptilian force that has actually are the Earth's controllers and that are
still here and that have enslaved us.
And so they're in the background manipulating all the world events.
And they've been in the background probably for thousands of years and manipulated
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our wars and our life on this planet.
Many people have talked about this and have had encounters with reptilian-type aliens.
And it even, you can look back at the historic record and things like petroglyphs and Egyptian carvings,
ancient Sumerian carvings, and there are things that look like reptilian aliens in human history.
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If it looks like a reptilian, it is a reptilian, you know.
That's all I can tell you. You see a reptilian head, that is not human.
Okay, when you look at, and I was in, I took two groups of people to Egypt this summer.
So I saw these hieroglyphs myself. I saw a hieroglyph in the Luxor Temple where
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several people were freaking out because they saw murders that had happened.
They saw hundreds of people in that plaza being slayed and they couldn't tolerate
the energy. But right there on the hieroglyph there, there was an image where
you could see that they were cloning humanity.
They were cloning humans. Humans were sort of laying down in a row with a feeding tube.
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They were being cloned and created, not just to be slaves, but also as food.
We were very tasty. see but and and
you know so when the gods in the bible said bow down
before me right you know we're you know attack
jericho or we'll i'll slay you right there's so many biblical stories the whole
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book of enoch talks about all kinds it's all true it's all true and when you're
in egypt walking around and you see these hieroglyphs that are talking about
that well when they get translated for you,
but you can see these images and you understand that these gods were not here to help us.
They were here to use us and abuse us and they haven't left.
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And there's so many signs that they're still here. And I have seen a reptilian.
Revealed. But it was a good reptilian. And I was with a friend who had been bragging.
She said, she came in as a client. And as I'm working with her,
I said, Oh, my God, I see it. I see an implant.
And she said, Oh, yeah, that was, you know, a week ago, I was at such and such
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place, which wasn't far from where we lived. And she said, I saw a ship and they were reptilian.
She said, but I, they didn't get me or, you know, they didn't take me aboard
their ship and And nothing happened.
Well, here I see, you know, this implant right here.
And I didn't know in those days about how to remove them energetically.
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But a week or two later, I'm at her house. We're having a glass of wine and talking.
And the next thing I know, her face, the skin of her face comes off.
It's peeled back. She was, you know, I was looking at her from the side. Peels it back.
And she's pure reptilian head. pretty scary looking, and her voice changed.
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Really? And her voice was like very far away.
It was a deeper sound. It wasn't her voice. It lasted 60 to 90 seconds,
and then she was back to normal.
So do you think it was the implant that was transmitting that to happen,
or do you think she actually was fully a reptilian?
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Well, I think she was a good reptilian, didn't know it, and or maybe they had
taken her over or activated that part.
And I discovered reading another one of Whitley Strieber's books that made me
realize that I also have some good reptilian in me.
Yeah. Many of us do.
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And it's not a bad thing in that way.
It's not a bad thing because there are good reptilians and bad reptilians.
More bad than good, but we need the good reptilians because they're the only
ones who have the inner knowingness of dismantling the reptilians.
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See, that's an interesting point right there. And I think any society,
whether it's human or any kind of alien, there's always going to be people who
are walking in the light and beautiful and doing good for others.
And then there's always going to be people on the other side of that equation.
And then most of us are in the middle somewhere. We're beautiful and awesome,
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Some days and some days we can be real crabby.
We do the best we can. We do the best we can. We're fifth dimensional frequencies
walking around in a 3D body.
Right. Right. That's right. Exactly. And I was like, did you ever see the TV
show Third Rock from the Sun? Yes.
And you see them getting in those bodies and it's kind of, it's exactly the
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way it is, you know, in these 3D bodies of ours. And we have to learn to manage.
And it's not set up for us to ascend. That's, you know, on us.
Right. To get activated and turn up our light and remember why we're here. Yeah.
So how can we remember why we're here? This probably brings us full circle back
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to your angelic awakening.
We got stuck on Kingman. Well, Kingman is really important, especially when
you're telling me it's in the news.
So now I'm intimately involved with that crash site.
I could actually talk about it with people. Yeah. Holy moly.
I know. This is your moment to shine. Well, every moment is your moment to sign
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Joan, but you've got an opportunity here with Kingman.
And everyone's talking about it on UFO Twitter, whatever they call it, all over UFO Reddit.
Believe me, it is the number one conversation for the last nine weeks.
Who's going to want me on their show?
But anyway, with the ETs, when I was on the ship in this regression,
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and I had all that group. my Baja paranormal group was on the ship.
They were all like this, clunked out, like eyes closed and asleep in a trance.
And my job was up on stage. I was bringing one person at a time up and in my
chair, and I was aligning their antenna with the heavens and the earth.
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And I was tuning it up for every person. And they said, well,
your job, and I knew this, I didn't need them to tell me this,
but your job is that you've made an agreement that your job is to turn up everyone's
light and vibration and you agreed not to ever come.
And not to leave the planet until every person's vibration was truly aligned.
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And I cried because it was what I know I'm here to do.
And I am here to help you guys remember who you are and step into your greatest gifts.
Because just like Dolores Cannon says, we're volunteers. We all said,
oh, yes, bring it on. I want to go.
We did. And we didn't come down here empty handed. We came down here with a toolkit of skills.
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You all have different skills, but you're all Jedis in your own skills.
And part of awakening is to start to recall those skills and start to use them
and activate them and learn to master them.
But the biggest thing I tell people is that the first thing to remember is that
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you need to turn up your light.
We're here to carry this light because
it's the light that will transform the darkness.
Yeah you know you're kind
of answering live's question here can we actually be aliens with zero awareness
and you can be you can be but you're not an alien you're you're human you're
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a person in the physical form here as a quote human who may have been born or
comes from a star far, far away, a galaxy,
you know, like the movie, a galaxy far away.
And you came here distinctly because you had the tools and the skills to do what you came here to do.
So if you don't remember, here's the first clue.
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Anyone who was called to come on this show, number one, you're being activated by Birdie and me.
As we're speaking, we're raising your your vibration, and your frequency to help you remember.
Yeah. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. We are helping you to remember.
Kay says, we are the ground crew. We are.
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And Kay and her herself is a ground crew. I love that woman. I do too. She's awesome.
Oh, that's so great. I actually know people in Albuquerque now. Beautiful.
Beautiful. Yeah. So we're meant to remember. And as we remember,
but remember the other part.
Just like the light knows that you're here to make a difference,
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so does the dark. dark and the dark has an agenda and they send agents against you.
The agents, from the time you show up in the body, there's also a plan or a
group that doesn't want you to step into your power, doesn't want you to be
free to be, doesn't even want you to remember.
They wanted you to remember, they wouldn't put in all those screen memories.
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With that being said, understand when you look back at your life, you can go,
well, who in my life was actually unintentionally an agent of the dark that
was here, that part of their mission was to make sure I didn't make it, that I didn't remember.
Because an empowered human on this planet is critical.
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The more of us who wake up, the stronger we get,
the more we align our light with each other, the more likely we are to rid the
planet of those dark agenda alien reptilians who have been acting as the overlords for way too long.
I don't know about you, but I'm not good at complying. I do not comply. Yeah, neither do I.
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And that compliance gene has to come out, right? That's right.
Because all the humans created by these Anunnaki gods, they put in a compliance gene.
So you would not think, not question, not wake up, not remember.
So if you're not remembering, we need to remove your compliance gene and awaken
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your third eye, which has been covered over by all the crap.
You know, you just look up and the chemtrail hits it. Yep. Yep.
I, you know, I think that that's so true.
I've been doing remote viewing for almost 30 years.
And, and in working with a lot of different people, I've discovered that,
you know, people think they're a psychic brick.
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And they don't understand that they're just as powerful as every other person
on the planet. And just seeing somebody awaken from that is such a joy.
Going from disbelieving that they can connect with absolutely everything,
anytime, anyplace, and then finding out, oh my gosh, I'm everywhere all at once. It's beautiful.
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That is beautiful. I like that. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Good description, Bertie. Oh, thank you.
So we've got a question for you here. With your vast experiences from angels
to aliens to all kinds of interdimensionals, what is the message for humanity?
Is there hope for our future? You know what? Live light. What a beautiful name, live light.
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Yes, there's so much hope. We're in that ascension timeline.
And at this moment in time, and I guess this happens maybe every 22,000 years
or something, where the light is coming together for this ascension time on planet, it is real.
So there's two timelines that are
coming together one is more the dark timeline and
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one is more the positive awakening and free
humanity timeline and so
you get to choose but the more of us that choose that timeline the more we create
it in the future and we turn it into reality so actually we are responsible
for stepping into and onto this new timeline so yes there is hope for humanity humanity.
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We want to go back to, is there hope for you?
What are you doing that's going to help you to step into your best life now,
to be the best you can be, to not be covered up in fear, to say, I do not comply.
You know, I'm free to be me. And by doing that, you step into a group of light
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beings like yourself that are joining forces energetically to bring about this new age.
Because the dark is really trying. I don't know if you know anything about Frank
Jacob and his Looking Glass project, but I did a couple of shows with Frank.
And that's the truth. There is that other timeline. So is it a done deal that
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we're going to all go on this ascension timeline? No, but it's very likely.
Now, the last time humanity tried to fight off the overlords was in the 1500s.
And in those days, the giants woke up to help them.
And so there was actually an alliance between humanity and the giants to revolt
and throw off our overlords or the controllers,
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whatever you want to call them but we lost and so some of the facts that we
some of the things that we see now where they're just you know making it impossible
to see our history and they've lied and covered up they've covered up everything
the giants the beautiful tartarian buildings,
all of that really went into effect after the we lost that war but we're coming
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back that's you You know,
that's really a great point because we have so many fascinating megalithic structures
across our whole planet, and they're enormous.
They could not have been built simply by the humans of the time.
There had to have been some kind of involvement with somebody else or some kind
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of technology that we didn't know existed at the time.
And I agree that a lot of our history is covered up. I put a lot of stuff about
giants on my Telegram channel.
So everything about me is at Joan of Angels.
And if you're interested in the in the Tartarian or the giants,
go look at my my channel because I go around the world looking for evidence
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that the giants were here in big, big time. Awesome.
All of Joan's links are in the show notes, gang.
All of her links, her Instagram, her website, her Telegram.
You've got to check out her artwork. Let's talk about that, Joan.
You do these amazing spiritual paintings, and when I look at them,
I can feel my heart opening, truly.
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They're incredible. How did you get into art, and what are you doing when you paint?
Well, first of all, I want you to know I was never born an artist.
My mother and brother made me swear on someone's body that I would never become an artist.
So I have violated that. They told me to be a bookkeeper.
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So that didn't work out. But in 2013, in a very dark moment when I really was
praying for a miracle, I heard this voice that paint 33 angels in 30 days,
which was too much work for me.
I was like, no, no, no. Nope. And then I heard the voice again.
And then by the third time, I realized that this was my way,
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this was going to be my miracle. And I said, yes.
And I put them up on the wall and a book falls off the bookshelf that says your
call for angelic assistance has been heard.
Now, that's how I got into painting. And these days I do mostly digital because
I travel too much to have a studio.
And these digital pieces are the way I work is that I kind of blend and merge
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with the angelics, with my guides. I just ask for clarity.
And then I just go about kind of going into a trance and I create it.
I create it on my computer.
I could create it on my phone. and I just, I'm like on another universe until I'm done.
And some of them are portals. I do a lot of portals.
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Well, I was the executive producer for Portal to Ascension, which is kind of interesting.
I'm always about portals, but I do mystical landscapes.
I had a woman in Greece when I was showing my art there with the Stargate people.
She came up and she said, Joan, do you remember when we
were interdimensional and on like the 11th dimension
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and this was our temple so i have
people coming up and validating these stargates or
these temples that they've been there before and then
i have a line of angelic ones in in
the gods and goddesses but the interesting
thing is i also offer an art activation so you
take a piece home and we can do an activation online
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which actually aligns you in the
painting so it becomes a vibrational tool
much like that when I bought that statue of the tall white from Cynthia her
name was Cynthia and Cynthia Crawford so that that tall white would download
information to me the art does that and then this year I started offering.
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A special, really special, only for
certain people, I call it soul essence portraits, they're soul aspects.
What I realized is that we all have 20, 30, 100 soul aspects,
and I'll do a session with them, and the soul aspects will come to me.
And I create a video for you of your soul aspects, and then we send it to you
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as a painting, so that you can never forget who you are.
Because once we see who you are, we bring that together.
You know, I've been broken into 33 fractals this lifetime.
That's all I can tell you. I'm kind of a walk-in, but it took 33 aspects of
me coming together for me to be a walk-in, which is why I'm not at all like I was. Right.
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Wow. Well, Kay is saying here that your paintings are a miracle, beautiful of energies.
So in all fairness, I have met Kay. She came to see me when I was in Santa Fe,
right when the pandemic began in 2020.
And we had a big love-in at the time. So I'm really happy to see her. And thank you, Kay.
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Yes, I think she has a scarf or something of mine.
Okay, Kay, I'll get that back at the next meeting.
I don't know. I'm going to come to your meetings when I'm in that part of the
country. You can come stay right in my house.
I'm going to. I'm already jazzed. I'm super jazzed, too. This is so much fun.
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So what do you think are some things that we can do?
Regular people, I mean, everyone's not regular, right?
Everyone's an incredible fifth-dimensional, multi-dimensional,
fractal, gorgeous energy creature.
But sometimes we feel like a regular person and we have trouble connecting to
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those extra layers of ourselves.
What can we do to start accessing that?
Well, in five minutes or less.
So, you know, it takes a commitment. You really can get up every day and ask to be shown the way.
It's as simple as that. You know, you have a cup of tea, a cup of coffee.
You have your notebook out. You can go, please, you know, tell me what I'm supposed to be doing.
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But even if you're not getting those answers, the most important thing is activating yourself.
Okay? And when I say that, so I have something on my website called Wing Fluffing.
In fact, I'm not going to be doing them much more, but they are still there.
In case you're interested.
And in the wing flapping, I kind of teach you how to carry, embody that presence
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and that energy and that high vibration.
When you learn how to actually, even in your physicality, carry that presence
with you, that's the first step.
Because that'll change your tone.
It'll change the way you see yourself. It'll change the way other people see you.
And so, you know, I guess I'll be doing programs in the near future on power.
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What do I call it? Purpose, passion, purpose, power, passion, purpose.
There's four words and I didn't get them all in passion, purpose, presence, and house.
Presence. So if you can activate that presence, and you can activate your,
you know, your passion for connecting before you know it.
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And there are tools, you know, that I could teach you, but that begins with your attitude.
It's like, okay, I'm sick of being sick. I'm sick of being stuck.
You know, I'm opening up room for the true me to start to come out.
So sometimes we can do it first physically in our presence to allow it to come out.
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And I have lots of videos on my YouTube channel that talk about stepping into
the light, raising your light.
And I'm going to be starting a new show in a couple of weeks and I'm going to
have Birdie on it, just so you all know. Yay.
And the name of the show is going to be Turn Up Your Light with Joan of Angels.
Ah. They just told me yesterday. I haven't even put it all together yet. Wow.
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So what other kinds of messages do you have for us today? Anything that we should focus on, think about?
Give me a second. Okay. Yeah. I just want to tune in to what it is that our guides.
So the first thing they're telling me is, well, let's be at peace.
Be at peace because we, or you, you and I, we're all at the exact right place
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at the exact right moment of the planet and of history and of ourselves.
We came here to really have an important place in humanity's evolution.
And we do it by staying strong. We do it by just holding on and extending our
antenna up to the heavens and our roots down to the earth.
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And just the more you extend that antenna up to the heavens and sort of anchor
it in, the more you're going to bring down that celestial light.
But understand that these are the times for which you and I came. We're here.
I mean, if you think about it, I don't know about you, but I'm 20 and 20. It's like, oh, my God.
Everything was going so good. Why am I here during what looks like now the worst of times?
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However, of course, I was quickly instructed on what was really going on.
We were being cocooned and trained for the now because now is the time for which we are called.
Many people are going to be waking up, although many people are still going to stay asleep.
The chaos is going to get worse. You know, I know this is evergreen,
but as long as we're talking about it, the upcoming, you know,
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the upcoming election, things are going to be so chaotic.
But understand that all is unfolding for the highest good of all of us.
And that as we break down the old, the new is coming. You are here to stay strong.
You are here to be awake to, you know, when people start to freak out,
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to say, oh, I know what's going on. Don't worry.
This is all part of the evolution.
This is an exciting time to be alive, Lana. You are so right.
And that's why you're here. You know, I tried to freak out in 2020.
There was a time by the summer that's like, oh, God, what am I going to do?
And I was doing a show then called Corona Toolkit.
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Now, it's a good thing I stopped because then I would have been banned because
it was all about what you can do to treat the flu, you know, to treat yourself.
But I was doing this show and I was starting to freak out, you know,
should I freak out like everyone else or what should I do?
Heard a voice, said, you're Joan of Angels. You're telling everyone you're that
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one and only Joan of Angels.
If you really are Joan of Angels, either you step up and do what you came here
to do or move over and there'll be a Joan of Angels too.
Wow. That's a powerful message. Yes. And I'm giving you that message.
If you don't want to, or you're not ready to say yes, even if you don't know
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what that yes is, you can say, yes, I'm open to the light.
I'm open to building my own energetic light no matter what.
So if you're, you know, we're required to say yes or no now,
because to To be one of the chosen ones, you must choose.
And these are the times for which you raised your hand eons ago and said, yes.
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Don't go hide in your bed and throw the blanket over your head and pillows and
get under the bed. I mean.
They really reamed me. And they said, it's your choice, Joan.
You know, you could choose to go to a simple life and not do this.
Or you can do what you came here to do.
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And I'm giving you all the same choice. You can say, you know,
things are really going to be hairy the next period of time, and this is exciting.
I know that the Galactic Council is right here. The Alliance is right here.
I also know that we're going to break, you know, just have that certainty we're
going to break free and remove that compliance gene, and that's the other thing,
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removing, energetically removing that compliance gene.
Think of it maybe as a cork in your throat chakra, which the patriarch was put
in, all of us, so we wouldn't speak up.
Wow, that is so interesting. And because you were telling me earlier this week,
as members of my group know, I was bitten by a black widow spider and had a very serious reaction.
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And Joan pointed out to me that that can happen.
That's a message that you're not speaking out, you're not opening your voice.
And I think that that was true for me. So this is really resonating with me.
Also know that that that's what's called
spider medicine in the indigenous world
you have spider medicine you have
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a spider totem now and so it would be good to embrace that aspect and the messages
of everything is designed to wake us up you know everything is designed to give
us a message especially when you say yes i'm ready i want to hear all of you
go yes i'm ready yes Yes, I'm ready.
Yes, and it's important because one of our first questions was,
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are we going to make it as a species?
Are we going to evolve here to the ascension and to the new earth? And I say yes.
Also, I'll be doing and running a new earth symposium next month.
Oh, that's exciting. Let's hear about this. Well, we have a group of about eight
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of us, and we'll all have our presentations on what is the new earth and I'll
be doing a panel in a couple of days so.
I'll release that to all of you. But the panel will be with speakers.
Laura Eisenhower is one of our speakers on how to evolve into this new Earth.
What the heck does it mean for us?
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And how do we get from here to there?
You're going to have to hold on. It will be a bumpy ride. I'm not going to promise
you that it's not a bumpy ride.
I'm only reminding you that you volunteered for it. It's always a bumpy ride, Joan.
It has been a bumpy ride. planet earth is
the most difficult planet in the galactic
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world it is only they send people here
who need training who need who agree to the hardest kinds of training because
this is not a piece of cake and they've even set it up so that it's almost impossible
to reincarnate it to reincarnate out of here so and and you're born you may
have this toolkit but the rules changed again.
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Every lifetime, they've changed the rules, they've changed the timeline,
they've changed the history.
You don't know if you're in 2024 or if you're in 1524.
Wow. I can feel that. I can feel that in my soul.
I have bits and pieces, memories from past lives, and I feel like I'm still
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struggling against some of the same things.
Well, let's remove the word struggle and let's just say that those are the things
that the dark side wants you to focus on instead of the things you can do. Oh, I like this.
You know, and as I, okay, here we're going to talk about the heavenly part.
You cannot take a wheelbarrow to heaven when you leave here.
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Way too heavy. All your crap is in that wheelbarrow. And as humans,
we like to carry that wheel. We like to lead with that baggage,
you know, and carry it with us. Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's not going to get you anywhere. I love that. That is such a great analogy.
Yeah, you can't take it with you. You can't take all your struggles and your fears with you.
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No, you really can't. You can't. You really can't. And the older you get,
the clearer that gets. Right.
So when I coach people, we go to the mountaintop. I have a little cafe up there
called Joan of Angels Cafe.
I give you chai tea. no coffee chai tea and we sit and we talk and we literally look at the world below,
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where you are where your body is running around so
we can have a new perspective on your life and on what you're doing and on your
soul aspects so the soul portraits are really a soul retrieval shamanic experience
in essence but we we have to go to a state of neutrality a state of looking
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at the big picture in order to understand the picture. Right.
That makes a lot of sense. And how do you think with all of this transformation
happening, how do you think all of those alien UFO disclosure efforts are tying into this?
Do you feel that that's part of the plan?
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Or is it obfuscation?
Where do you see the disclosure? nothing happens by accident
yeah nothing on the planet everything is haven't
you ever noticed synchronicities that are too impossible to explain as if someone
planned it yeah so everything is known in advance and and this push for disclosure
that we have and the government's push to not let us know and then this back
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and forth it's all designed to just keep you all in a state of anxiety,
waiting for that day where they have that false flag,
you know, and I don't really buy any of it, of what the government's doing or how it is.
The disclosure is happening among us, the people, the people who've had UFO
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contacts, the people who know that they're hearing them or seeing them or feeling them.
Cynthia Crocker, she's still online even though she passed away. She's known as the E.T.
Sculptor. Her dad was in the Air Force, and she was actually genetically cloned,
was a real, you know, like not taken on a ship. She was really genetically cloned.
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So she was half hybrid or half E.T.
And she told me that they'd come in her living room kind of so she could do
sculptures of them. And she had clear sight.
So I say that the hope for humanity is it lies in our hands.
You know, if you want to go scurrying under your bedclothes because it's just
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too much for you, you know, you might as well do it now and let someone else
take your place because you're all hands on deck.
This is the time we've been praying for. You can call it the solar flash,
the grand awakening, the ascension, whatever it is, we are actually in it.
But it's going to look messy because we're separating from an old world with
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an old paradigm with old controllers who we're breaking free from.
Yes. So I guess what is my final message? Yeah, your final message.
Get that compliance gene out of you.
I love it. Get that compliance implant gone. And your whole world will clear up.
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Thank you, Joan. You have been such an absolute delight. You've given all of
us so much to think about. And I'm grateful for your presence.
Thank you. I didn't expect to go here in the ways that we did.
But I'm happy because it was exactly what was meant. And I think you really
unleashed something for me when you talked about the Kingman crashes.
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Because actually, I'm really probably not supposed to talk about it.
But he's gone. So I can't.
And I'm even going to look and see if I kept any files.
Look that up. Files. Yeah, look that up. And it's your time to shine,
Joan. There's no question.
All right. So I'm looking forward to everyone's feedback. I will be seeing you all.
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If any of you who are in Albuquerque, Santa Fe area, I definitely will be there
by August and hang out with Birdie.
That's right. We're going to have an awesome time.
So thank you, Joan. And Joan, if you don't mind hanging out for just two minutes
while I've got a special... Guys, you're going to laugh and you're going to groan.
I made a little ridiculous music video for our group.
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And I just thought everyone would get a good laugh. I actually have been working
on a theme song for the podcast and that I wrote myself.
And I'm going to unveil that later this summer. I want to actually record it in studio.
But so this is just silly. This is not our official theme song.
It's just to make everyone I think you're great.
So guys, if you need anything, I have any questions or you want a personal session,
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and go to my website, Joan of angels.com Look at the art.
See how, if it's calling you. Look at the art.
Definitely. Check out all of Joan's
stuff. And we will be talking with her again. I guarantee it. Me too.
Okay. Love you all. And we'll see you on the flip side. Hey, everybody.
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