Unlocking the Universe with Remote Viewing

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Welcome to a special collaboration between ABQ UFOs and the Vancouver Preparing for ET Contact meetup.
Join Brian Rue and Bertie Jaworski as they discuss remote viewing and its fascinating possibilities.

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Welcome to Preparing for ET Contact and University of Galactica.
This is June the 15th, 2024. 24.
Our guest today is Bertie. She's a celebrated remote viewer,
beekeeper, digital forensic expert, and cryptocurrency guru.
Bertie has used her remote viewing talents to solve missing person cases,
aid law enforcement, and predict major market shifts.

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She's also an avid UFO experiencer and leads the Albuquerque UFO UOP Explorations,
the most active UFO meetup group in America. And I have this short video of
Birdie that she's made. This is Birdie.
Hi, I'm Birdie. I'm the organizer for Albuquerque UFO UAP Explorations.

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I'm a mom, a grandmother, a writer, a digital forensics and cryptocurrency expert, and a beekeeper.
And for a while, I was the most famous remote viewer on the planet.
It all started back in 1995, when something on the news caught my eye.

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A short man with a blonde pageboy haircut stared into a reporter's eyes and
said, Yes, he was a psychic spy,
trained by the United States government to capture snapshots of classified targets
using only the power of his mind.
The government admitted to spending over $20 million in taxpayer dollars for

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a program called Stargate,
which studied psychic abilities in soldiers with the hope that they could essentially build a psychic spy.
Now that the original group of remote viewers, like the man on the news,
had reached retirement age, the program was closed and declassified.

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The official line was that the program garnered mixed results,
some absolutely incredible mind-blowing intelligence, but not enough to continue
pouring money into the work.
Unofficially, the project continued under a new name in management, a black budget abyss.

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The man's next words grabbed my arm and pulled hard, and I could train you to do the same.
Anyone can learn. This man, Major Ed Dames, had been training a civilian,
an academic who taught at Emory University, Dr. Courtney Brown.

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Brown would go on to write a New York Times bestselling account of his experiences
remote Remote Viewing Aliens, Cosmic Voyage.
Brown launched a school in the months after Stargate was declassified,
the Farsight Institute, to train others to remote view with an emphasis on alien communication.

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He charged over $3,000 to learn these unbelievable skills, and I was broke and
pregnant with my last child.
I bartered computer skills for a seat in one of the first classes.
I was one of the first civilian remote viewers and the very first pregnant person
to ever learn how to remote view.

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I quickly became known as a remote viewing prodigy and over time became second
in command at Farsight, the vice president.
I left to form my own school using modified remote viewing methods I knew would garner better results.
My business would employ multiple remote viewers from across the world,

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all remote viewers that I had trained.
We successfully worked on missing persons cases, unsolved murders,
missing treasure, and were even hired by hedge funds to help massage their portfolios.
In 2001, all hell broke loose. The Twin Towers in New York City were attacked.
A prediction I had posted on the internet on our website as part of a larger

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project quickly started making news rounds.
In 1998, several years before 9-1-1, I had drawn and described the attack.
New York Magazine published a profile on me.
The London Sunday Times sent reporters and photographers to take my remote viewing class.

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One of the reporters broke down crying during a session when he realized he
was experiencing the emotions of the people at the blind target.
I was featured on television shows of all kinds, from The Learning Channel to
CBS Sunday Morning. Even women's magazine Cosmopolitan sent a reporter to take my class.

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You might have seen the movie The Men Who Stare at Goats starring George Clooney.
It was based on a book by British journalist John Ronson.
Chapter six in the book? It's about me.
I have so many crazy stories from my public days in remote viewing.
I eventually walked away from public life after increasing resistance from the

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government and wandered the world doing other things.
But I kept remote viewing privately and researching and discovering how to best
maximize my own remote viewing potential.
And now I'm here in Albuquerque about to teach you.
Okay, I'll stop the share screen.

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There you go, everybody. That's my crazy background in remote viewing.
I have been remote viewing for 27 years.
I remote view literally every single day. There's only been a handful of days that I've ever missed.
And I've developed my own protocol since then that are extremely immersive,
involve 3D modeling, all kinds of interesting things.

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And so at the end of this, if you guys are interested in getting a a taste of
remote viewing, I did do a three-hour online class for my group,
Albuquerque UFO UAP Explorations.
And I am so happy to send you the link to that class. It's not publicly available.
It's a private link. You can watch it totally for free.

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Just email me, birdie at abqufos.com.
And I'll remind everybody at the end, you can watch that. And then this August,
I'm doing a five-day intensive. If you're interested in that, let me know.
Okay, so where would you like to go next, Birdie? You can teach us to be expert remote viewers.
Yeah, everybody. Okay, one thing that people often get wrong,

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they think that only certain people can remote.
I mean, you have to get over the whole belief that you can remote view at all,
right? There are a lot of skeptics out there that do not think that we have this potential.
But if you think about it, we all have these little moments in life,
moments when And you think about your sister, say, and then the phone rings, and it's your sister.

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Or you're walking down the street, and you feel someone's eyes on you.
You turn around, and someone is staring at you.
We all have these moments over and over throughout our lives.
That's just our natural remote viewing ability popping through at times.
Usually, it happens under moments of intense pressure or stress or big change in your life.

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Life that's when it it really becomes
apparent but we can all
learn how to remote view literally anything anytime
any place past present or future
and we'll talk about future a little later you can remote view things that are
on this planet you can remote view things that are not on this planet other

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civilizations in our galaxy or
in other galaxies you can even remote view things in other universes. And.
Everyone can learn. I have taught literally thousands of people all over the
world. I've taught in Japan and in Australia.
I have taught in London. I mean, you name it, I've been there teaching remote viewing.

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And every single person, even the most skeptic, even the ones who felt like
they were a psychic brick and I couldn't crack them, they were cracked.
Everyone had amazing, amazing, incredible remote viewing experiences.
And it's easy to learn. The big key is to learn how to quiet your mind and allow

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the information to come through. It's not a tricky process.
Now, the government developed this whole series of remote viewing protocols.
They started with a psychic named Ingo Swann. He has since passed on.
He was an absolutely brilliant, brilliant, brilliant times a million man.
He was an artist, super incredible guy.

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I've met him multiple times before he passed on some years ago now.
And he and I were friends. And he was a natural psychic and was known for being
a natural psychic, just someone who's good at it off the bat.
And he was the first person who described how anyone could remote view.

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And he started by By showing people that we have this ability,
it's natural in our bodies and our bodies want to let this information out.
And he showed how the military could do it. They hired him and then they hired a number.
Well, they didn't hire. They forced them because they were all in the military.
And they were all men at the beginning. And then there were a few other women

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that were involved later.
But these men learned how to travel using just their minds. And they came up
with this strict protocol system that.
Keeps your left brain busy. Your left brain is the rational part of your brain
that likes order, that likes to understand things, that's skeptical.

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And it allows your right brain, which is your creative, intuitive side, to pop forth.
So your left brain is kept busy by doing all of these exercises on a piece of paper.
And your right brain is allowed to write this information out.
And that's how remote viewing started.

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The protocols were called CRV, Controlled Remote Viewing.
And there are a number of instructors out there who will teach CRV.
It is the most prevalent form of remote viewing protocols out there.
Courtney Brown kind of massaged the protocols a little bit.
I mean, he didn't change very much about it. He just changed some of the nomenclature

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and he called his SRV for scientific remote viewing.
And some of the other instructors out there have their own methods,
but they all kind of follow the same pattern.
And if you watch my video, my three-hour video, which I'll give you guys a link
to later, that is kind of a modified version of controlled remote viewing.

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But what I do now is very different and is kind of based on the work of Ian
McGilchrist, who everybody here should look up. He's an amazing,
amazing, brilliant, one of the most brilliant minds on the planet right now.
Scientist, and he studies the hemispheres of the brain.
And so I have modeled all of my new remote viewing protocols on his work and

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how the right and left hemispheres work or don't work together.
So I don't know. What would people like to know about? I've remote viewed everything.
Let me tell you. I have remote viewed boring stuff like Mount Rushmore,
Niagara Falls. Everybody gets those when the first learning.
I've remote viewed all kinds of interesting events, Princess Diana's car crash, you name it.

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I've remote viewed it if it's something that you've heard about the Roman Colosseum
at the time when it was most active.
Super cool stuff. The cool thing
about remote viewing is you don't just describe and draw what's there.
You feel it. You smell it. You can touch it. You see all the colors.
You can literally read the minds of any person there.

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And it is such an exhilarating feeling.
And when you have a full experience where you know you're there,
you feel like you're physically there, that's called bilocation.
And when I teach a full five-day class, I absolutely guarantee you will have
a bilocation experience.

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One of the students that I taught, and this was years ago in California, his name was Jim.
He was one of those psychic brick kind of skeptical guys. He really didn't think
he could learn it. And he was having a tough time with it. He just wouldn't let his mind go.
He was struggling saying, I can't do this. And he was complaining about his results every session.

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And I decided I need to give him a wake-up call. So I gave him...
And when you're learning...
Everything you do is blind, which means you don't know what you're viewing,
but the person giving you that target knows what it is.
Or maybe they don't. Maybe it's a double blind and it's in an envelope that
somebody else prepared somewhere along the way.

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So he didn't know what he was going to view. And I gave him, and this is horrible.
I do not do this with new students generally, but this man needed a wake-up call.
So I gave him the firebombing at Dresden, Germany during World War II, which is an absolutely.
Horrible, horrible, horrible event where the bombing was so intense,

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it created these tornadoes of fire.
It destroyed so many beautiful pieces of artwork, not to mention,
I don't even know how many people killed.
It was an absolutely horrific event, but I gave that to him to view.
Poor guy. And within 20 minutes, he literally felt that his skin was on fire.

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He got up and he was screaming and running in circles.
And he ran, this was in my house. I had a special remote viewing class at my
house, and he ran out of my house and into the backyard screaming.
And ever since then, he became one of my very best of all-time remote viewers.
That kind of broke it open. That was a bilocation experience.

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But I was young. You got to remember, I was in my early 30s at that time and
kind of more of a whimsical, free-for-all kind of person. Today,
I'm a little more measured in what I give new students.
I would not give anyone here anything like that. anything scary or awful or terrible.
I'm older and wiser, as they say, but I was young and dumb then.

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So anyway, anyone have any questions or anything else you want me to talk about?
Yeah, we could use the hand feature
at the bottom where it says reactions raised. Yeah. We could do that.
But I can start off, Bertie, with- Yeah, go for it.
University of Galactica. See our logo here. We have these- Awesome.
Huge motherships. There's believed to be these huge 200-mile motherships or above orbit.

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So I have a woman wanting to sort of remote view or bilocate to visit the ETs
there, like the greys, the mantis.
And I did some videos with Paul Elder.
He's one of Canada's best known remote viewers.
And he was saying that in many cases, it's up to the ETs.
They might not allow people to remote view onto their craft.
Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

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Do you want to comment on that? Yeah, okay. There is some truth to that.
Not all ET civilizations are
like this, but the ones that have highly developed telepathic processes,
the ones who can read your mind, the ones that we hear about during abduction
experiences, say, where you hear a voice in your mind, that kind of a thing,

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they do have the ability to block you, to block you.
And one of the things I will be teaching in the five-day class is how to address
those blocks because you actually can get past them. I've developed ways to
get past those blocks so that you can still have that experience.
Might be a little scary, but when you remote view an alien civilization.

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If they're a telepathic species across the board, immediately they know that
you're remote viewing them.
They know 100% and they will address you.
They will start talking to you and you will have a conversation and they will
give you all kinds of information.
I sometimes call it thought balls. I wrote a book about my experiences,

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remote viewing aliens and having a particular set of encounters with one particular alien.
And during those encounters, I would get what I would call a thought ball because
it was one big concrete piece of information that it would take me days or weeks
or even months to unravel.

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They would give you this big, huge package all wrapped up in a bow right in
your head. Very common, very common for remote viewing ETs, but you can get around those blocks.
I have only had one situation when I was completely, completely, completely blocked.

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And this was really interesting.
This was when I was doing a big project and a lot of the remote viewers in my
employ at that time, these are all paid remote viewers that I had trained.
I was doing a big project on where the universe came from.
How did we come to be? The whole universe in general. Were we created by something?

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Is there a higher power?
Is there a God or a divine presence that created us?
And that was so tough because there was something.
And that That's something that did block. But it wasn't a block like...

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With aliens where they're just not happy that you're probing into their existence
and into their thoughts.
This was a block where every remote viewer was receiving the same information,
literally the same language.
You are not to know this.
This is not something that you are to know in this lifetime.

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And we all received that same message.
I did multiple times and I tried everything i could to get
around it and never could so that's the only remote viewing
situation that i had that i was truly blocked yeah because
that's something i've been doing like in guided meditations trying to
go go to the craft and sort of visualize ets and get into that which is just

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to give people our website is universitygalactus.org so yeah that's that's a
that's the i really appreciate your answer brady yeah so brian's website i'm
pointing the wrong direction oh yeah Over there is super cool.
You've got to check it out.
I'm very excited with what he's doing. He's putting together this amazing university
where people can learn and study everything about ET civilizations and their

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interactions with us and what's happening in that whole realm.
It's very, very, very cool.
Good job, Brian. Thanks. So, we got some hands up.
Marto, I think it's Martin in Australia. It's 3.30 in the morning.
Paula's got her hand up. I see, but you don't know because of Marta and then
Paula and then Sabrina. So you want to go first, Martin?

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Yeah, thanks, mate. Bertie, did you end up saying what you normally do when
you get a block? How do you get past that block?
I did not say. There's a particular set of, I'll call them protocols.
I hate that word, honestly. And when I teach remote viewing,
I don't use any of the militaristic patriarchal language.
It's more open, inviting, more feminine. And this comes from my experience as

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a woman on this planet, but I think that it's more important to delve into that
kind of feminine side, that opening, welcoming side.
But generally, what I do when you feel a block is you accept the block and you
let the aliens, if this is who's blocking you, say, you let them know,
okay, I'm going to take a step back.

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I'm going to allow you to have this block. and let's start slow.
Can you tell me something small? And usually you will get something small back
and you keep building on this until that block fades away.
Oftentimes, I think it's just that exuberant human energy pressing forward,

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wanting to know everything that's overwhelming for some other kinds of beings
who have a less emotional,
emotional less emotionally charged attitude because
we're very emotional as human beings on this planet a lot
of a lot of different alien civilizations don't have the same emotions
that we do they have different emotions that are very

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hard to describe they do have emotions that people
say you know say the greys for example are emotionless
it's not true they actually have a full complement of emotions they just do
not mimic our emotions here and so if you allow Allow yourself to reduce that
emotional component and just ask one simple question at a time.

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That block almost always fades. And there are other techniques you can use,
but that's one of the ones I use, if that's helpful. Yeah, you're welcome.
Okay. And Paula, next. You can unmute. Okay.
Hi, Birdie. What you're teaching is absolutely fascinating to me.
It's interesting because my left brain loves to go into overtime,

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but I do know my right brain is very active and powerful also,
yet it doesn't take center stage.
My question is in regards to remote viewing and is it somehow, or the ability,
is it somehow related or interconnected with quantum healing hypnosis technique, QHHT?

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Okay. I do teach as part of, when I teach remote viewing, I do teach remote healing.
It's very similar to quantum healing.
I am very familiar with that. I've taken a few classes in that.
That remote healing is a little bit different, but you are able to literally heal.
Diagnose. Diagnosis is particularly powerful using remote healing.

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It's incredibly powerful.
In fact, I'll tell you the story after I finish answering this question because it's fascinating.
It's how I got a big job. But remote healing, you start with your diagnosis,
diagnosis and then you focus on the areas that need to be healed, but you also recognize,
the holistic person because sometimes what's causing an ailment isn't necessarily

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all of the physical things that are happening in the body.
There can be a spiritual component. There can be an emotional component.
It's usually a combination of things, right?
And remote healing that we use in remote viewing, I have actually,
I actually gave a couple of lectures on this at the International UFO Congress in Laughlin, Nevada.
This was like in the late 90s, early 2000s on remote healing.

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But it is similar that you can definitely do this in remote viewing.
I don't know if that answers your question. It's a little different.
Yeah. I think my question was more geared toward, is it the, is it the same?
Are you, is an individual tapping
into the same wavelength that is used in quantum, in remote viewing?

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I think these things are all on a continuum, but with remote viewing,
when you're doing remote healing, you are literally there in,
you literally are, you become that person's body.
You experience that person's body as if it were your own.
And you can feel and sense and see and smell.

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Smells are very important in this somehow. There's a lot of,
you know, cancer smells a certain way. It's really interesting.
Parkinson's smells a certain way. Remote viewers who do remote healing learn
to recognize these signals. It's super interesting.
So you become the person's body and you experience what they're experiencing.

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So it's a little different. But I do think that all of these healing modalities,
whether it's Reiki, quantum healing, I mean, there's a bunch of them.
They do operate on a continuum. It's a very similar process.
But with remote healing, you become that person.

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You literally bilocate and you are that person for all intents and purposes.
Yeah. That could be interesting if someone tries to tap into an ET to feel what they're feeling.
Yes. And this is what you do when you want to know what it's like to be an ET.
This is something I give students all the time is pick an ET.

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And I always try to to pick somebody who's pretty nice out there.
You don't want to pick one of your evil reptilian overlords, say.
Pick somebody who's a little more basic or a nicer ET or a neutral. I'll say neutral ET.
And you literally become that ET.

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You can hear how they think, which is so different from from how we think, feel their emotions.
This is how we know that they do have very strong emotions.
They just don't present or even, they're not even equivalent to our emotions.
They don't have anger, say, or fear in the same way that we do.
They have different kinds of emotions that are very hard to describe.

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And yeah, you can become anything in remote viewing. And one thing I did teach,
I'm not going to say who it is because I had to sign an NDA for this,
but I did teach an Olympic athlete who has won multiple gold medals.
That's all I'm going to say, remote viewing.
And this person wanted to become the best of their particular sport.

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They wanted to become the absolute, absolute best. They absolutely did.
And what I did was I identified myself going back and remote viewing the best
in this particular sport or related areas.
I can't say too much because it would give it away, but I found people in the
past that I identified through remote viewing who had the attributes that this athlete needed.

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And I had him remote view these particular individuals so he could see what
it feels like to have these particular attributes,
whether it was a stronger muscles in some area or breathing or eyesight.
What have you.

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So you can absolutely take on the intelligence of an extraterrestrial or even Einstein.
Einstein, this is a really interesting case. So I have given multiple times
Einstein in his various work situations when he at the moment of,
you know, different discoveries, this and that, and you give a remote viewer this,

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a trained remote viewer who is proficient in this bilocation technique,
and this person becomes Einstein.
And they literally are smarter.
After that session, they literally can do more more, feel more,
know more. It's really something else.
And I've done this myself. This is why I have many, many, many hobbies and talents.

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And I'm always looking. I'm going to start, you know, I've been playing my guitar
recently. I think I'm going to go have a conversation with Jim Morrison.
I'll be better. Yeah, go ahead. Can I ask one more question? Okay.
So if as humans, Humans, we have the ability to remote view into an alien race,

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and they can sense that we are remote viewing into them.
Yes. Does that pathway go in reverse? Can the aliens remote view into us?
They do all the time. They do all the time. So could they influence us?
They try to, and sometimes they do. They don't.
Okay, so one thing you understand if you become proficient at remote viewing,

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especially remote viewing alien civilizations, you start to recognize the alien
influence in your everyday life.
You start sensing them all of the time, especially in certain locations, certain times.
You can see how they're trying to interact with everybody on this planet.
It's actually quite amazing how much they're trying to influence what we're

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doing, what what we're thinking, how we're approaching different problems.
One thing that I have noticed is that there hasn't been, in my experience,
a whole lot of malevolent intent with the particular aliens that are trying
to influence, I'll say, human society.
You can sense it and you can see what they're doing.

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Mostly, it centers around us being less destructive, less...
And what's interesting is they're not big fans of artificial intelligence.
I've seen a huge amount of alien interference in that realm,
which is really interesting.
Maybe they feel that AI will be our downfall. I mean, I kind of agree with them, frankly.

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Just some of the advances in AI are pretty scary. But you can sense that.
You can sense... And And oftentimes, I'll wake up in the middle of the night
and I will feel an alien presence.
And this is from my remote viewing training. I know that there is something happening.
I'll go outside. Maybe I'll see something. Maybe I won't.
But I will generally, at that point, have a conversation with whatever's there.

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And I'll tell it, you know what?
I'm trying to get some sleep right now. Can you just bug off until later?
Daytime, perhaps. Or I'll listen. I'll listen to what the message is. It's interesting.
When you really apply yourself in remote viewing, it really does take over your life.
But I think in a very positive and kind of life-affirming way,

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it makes you realize you are so much more than just...
You know, a mind and a body. You are this incredibly complex cosmic individual
that can do all kinds of cool things.
I mean, we lose sight of that. I recently kind of lost sight of that because
I was dealing with my dad's health issues.

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And, you know, when you have to deal with something, whether it's money or health,
those are kind of two of the big ones, right?
You know, you're stressed out about money, you're stressed out about your health
or about a family member's health, everything in your life feels more difficult, right?
And remote viewing is the same way. It can be very hard to access that information

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when you have all of this other kind of crap whirling around your head.
So that's like Brian can talk about that at length because he has all this Buddhist training.
That's essentially the whole basis of that is that So you got to be able to
let that stuff be, just let it be.
It is what it is. It is what it is.

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Wonderful. Thank you so much, Bertie. I'll probably have more questions.
Thank you. Oh yeah, good.
I hope you watch my three-hour wing ding there. It's just simple, but you'll like it.
Yeah, thanks, Paula. It's fine for people to follow up after a question. That's good.
And the reactions feature, just to remind people, at the bottom where it says
reactions, you press on that.
Then there's a raise hand feature, and then you can lower your hand when you're done.

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So we have sabrina next and then laura and
then marty okay sabrina you can
turn on the camera if you want it's optional for the video
now looking so great today okay
sabrina hello how are you hello everybody awesome so i had a few questions i've

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been interested in this for a while only Only because I've done it accidentally
a lot of times during meditation. Yes.
So one of my questions to you, first, let me go into you, right?
Okay. How is your teaching different from, let's say, the Monroe Institute?

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Yeah, the Monroe Institute is
super interesting. I have been to the Monroe Institute a couple of times.
I have taken their out-of-body experience classes.
They do some things with remote viewing. A lot of the military remote viewers,
ex-military remote viewers have been very involved with the Monroe Institute.
What I do is different. I have.

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Made myself a student of how the brain works.
And I employ a lot of cool, full, they're full body techniques.
One thing that the Monroe Institute and a lot of the military remote viewers
and pretty much all the remote viewers out there, they're working with paper
and pens or meditation techniques.

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But I employ the whole, the whole body.
This is a, this should be a physical, not just a mental exercise.
Your body is here for a reason, so let's use it. So that's one of the ways in
which what I do is different.
My students do a lot of modeling with clay. We build things.

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We act out things, which helps you to understand what's going on.
You may be acting out something that happened. If you want to find out something
that's going to happen, say, in the future, or you want to find out what someone
really did, who really shot JFK, right?
You have somebody who's remote viewing the killer, you know,
the grassy knoll and all that, and you have them act it out.

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And you'll find their body doing things, unexpected things.
It's amazing how much information is stored just in our bodies and how much
our bodies are able to your relay.
So that's one huge, huge, huge difference between what I do and what kind of
everyone else is doing out there, including the Monroe Institute.
They've kept it in the level of what's up here, but it should be everything.

(35:09):
What's all here.
It's kind of, it's what I do. Yeah. And now the next question was in terms of
accuracy, like how do you, how do you check that?
Bad okay this is my pet peeve i've actually i'm almost done with a book about this so,
if okay i'm gonna get into some philosophical and then we're gonna get into

(35:35):
the into the weeds here this is such a great question sabrina because if you
look at a lot of or every other remote you were out there honestly everyone
they all say the same thing well this is accurate accurate, but they got this wrong.
They said it was a green car, but it was a red car. They said this,
but it was really that. They didn't draw this exactly.

(35:55):
Or they were wrong, but they got this one right. Over and over and over and
over and over again, they talk about accuracy as if.
As if what you draw, because they're purely working on what's on the page,
is a litmus test for whether this data is real.
But one thing that I discovered early on is that you get what you get.

(36:20):
That's kind of my mantra.
I say it over and over and over again to students, and it takes students a long
time to figure this out. But once it clicks, then they truly understand and
their whole abilities jump up like tenfold.
So you get what you get. So if you draw something or if you write something,

(36:41):
that thing literally is part of what you're remote viewing. It's there.
There is no wrong data. It's all correct.
But you have to understand your own mind and why you wrote that information down. why you drew that.
Maybe because a lot of times you're remote viewing something that you've,

(37:02):
I mean, most of the time, almost all the time, it's something you've never experienced or seen.
Say I give you Gobekli Tepe, right?
You know, ancient megalithic structure.
You've never been there. Maybe you've never been to Turkey. Maybe you've never
seen it. Maybe you never even heard about it.
So if you're going to describe this location, it's going to be really hard to
name, but you're going to be in your mind comparing it to things.

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It's like this. It's like that. And you might draw those things and say these
things and write these things. It's like this. It's like that.
Maybe something is cold where you're, say you're remote viewing something at
the South Pole, the McMurdo station.
You might draw a refrigerator or a freezer. Well, that's not the target,

(37:47):
it, but it's still correct.
It's cold. It's something that's cold. Maybe there's something that's kept there.
You know, and it's in a cold location. So you get what you get.
So I believe that all information is relevant and it's up to you,
the remote viewer, to start deconstructing every session and to understand why.

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And the more that you do these deconstructions, I force every student of mine
to deconstruct every single piece of data.
If they're serious about becoming a remote viewer, you have to deconstruct every
single piece and understand, and then you understand how your mind's working.
And so the next time you see a freezer, you know, it's a cold location.
Or the next time you see a red car, you know that it's not really a red car.

(38:34):
It's somebody that's angry and they're moving fast in some way,
or they're projecting something that's angry and red.
So it's complicated.
I don't even know if I'm making sense here, but that's how I approach it.
I think every single piece of data is relevant.
The second you start telling yourself self that that's wrong,
but this is right. That was wrong, but this is kind of okay.

(38:57):
That is the second your mind stops giving you stuff because you're telling your
mind that it did not provide you with something.
And the second that that happens, you start shutting down.
And people, I have seen amazing, this was back when I was first learning this
and first figuring all this out.

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I saw so many people get into this, be so excited and just drop out of it after
a time because they felt they were terrible.
They weren't terrible. They were brilliant. They just didn't understand why
their mind was giving them data in a particular fashion.
Once you understand how your own
mind works, and that relates to Brian's Buddhism too, right? Then you can.

(39:41):
Elevate your own your own abilities by a
zillion fold you know immediately if you see a
cat that it means a particular thing because you
had a cat in your childhood and you felt a certain way when you had that cat
so i don't know it's so you know that my hearing you correctly that some of
the symbolism that you're getting it also refers to your personal life on how you view those things?

(40:10):
Absolutely. Because when you talk to a person, if I was going to sit down and
have a conversation with you, we were going to have tea,
I would be on some level evaluating everything about you based on my own experiences.
I would say, oh, that's interesting what she's wearing.

(40:31):
I would wear something different. Or we're always Always evaluating things in
the course of a day. Always. And it's the same in remote viewing.
You can't, it's not, it's not like you're getting pure, like a pure feed where
you can just regurgitate what an analyst wants to see. You're going to regurgitate yourself.

(40:51):
It's always yourself. You're always, you're everywhere, everywhere at once, everywhere, everyone.
It's like that movie, everything, everywhere at once. You are,
you are the universe. and you're experiencing it.
It's like what Carl Sagan said, we are, you know, what did he say?
I forget what he said. Something about we are the way for the universe to understand

(41:12):
itself. I think that's true.
And so everything that you come out with in remote viewing is a reflection of
yourself, but it's also real.
But it is going to be, the more you analyze yourself, the better you'll understand your data.
It took me years to understand why I say certain things in a session,

(41:33):
why I draw certain things.
There are some things that show up over and over and over again when I do remote
viewing, and I know immediately what it means.
It means because it reminds me of something from childhood or a way I feel about
a particular thing or what have you, if that makes sense.

(41:54):
I have more questions, but there's a lot of people waiting, so I'll just get in line again.
Okay. Yeah, yeah. We got six hands up. So, Laura, you're up next. here in Vancouver.
Woo-hoo! Hi, Laura! Hi. So nice to meet you, Bertie. This is fascinating.
Talking about the remote healing, it seems I would not want to go into somebody

(42:18):
else's body and feel all of their pain and illness.
That's not something I would want to do, even if I could perhaps help them.
That's kind of scary. theory, but I am very interested in going deeper into my own body.
And I mean, I can through healing meditations, kind of remote view parts of

(42:41):
my body to see what's happening with that injury, to understand it better, perhaps.
But the question would be, how would I then use that to actually enhance healing?
Okay, so say...
I wanted to remote view my own body right now and pretty healthy.

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I don't really have anything big going on, but I do have a big old scratch on
my leg because I have a crazy dog.
I love him so much, but he is the hound from hell. His name's Django.
He's a nut. And he jumped up on me this morning because he was so excited about something.
He jumped up and I was wearing shorts and he scratched my leg pretty bad.
So that's a good example. So if I remote view my own body,

(43:29):
you get into the body, whoever's body it is, or your own body,
and you sense everything about that injury or that illness.
And the first thing that I teach students to do is to first understand how that
injury or that state of physical being came to pass.

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So if it's cancer, you will first remote view, feel it and remote view,
how did this person get that tumor or get this state of cancer?
Maybe it's a genetic, maybe there's a big genetic component because it's a familial
thing, or perhaps it relates to diet or chemical exposure or whatever the case may be.

(44:17):
And then you start working on remote viewing, you start.
Is erasing what caused this situation.
And it's a particular set of protocols that I use here.
It's way too complicated to get in right now without explaining all the prior stuff you do.
But what I've found to be most effective, and I've worked with a lot of different

(44:41):
ways. I mean, I've worked on this for almost 30 years.
And what works the best is erasing and changing the, not trying to just fix
it, but erasing what caused it.
And you change like the whole state of being when you start working on changing what caused it.

(45:01):
And of course, a person that you're working on, say, you know,
they have to keep up with those changes.
Say if it is diet related, or if they're continually being exposed to some kind
of chemical agent or whatever, They have to agree that they're going to make
changes now that you're working on them.
And some people are willing to do that. Some people are not.

(45:22):
That's just the human experience.
But that's how I do it. So I'm kind of actually, this is actually kind of freaky.
I'm working on my, I was just thinking about it and my scar is actually going away. So there you go.
I should have taken a picture of it before and after. Yeah, it's amazing.
You do it with your own body and you start realizing how much you can affect

(45:44):
your own health and your own life.
I'm almost 60 years old and I really want to live to be at least 120.
So I'm working towards longevity myself.
Okay. I guess that's sufficient then. Thank you. Okay. Yeah. Thanks, Laura.
And anyone is welcome to email me questions later. Absolutely.

(46:06):
Absolutely reach out anytime. I'm I love this stuff.
That's what I do. Thank you. So next we have Jamila, then Lana,
then Christopher. So Jamila, you're on.
Hi, everyone. I'm French, so I have this little accent. I hope everybody can
understand. Bonjour. Bonjour.

(46:27):
Yes, actually, I have so many questions, but yeah, everybody has questions,
so I'm going to let me talk about this.
But for example, I think when someone does remote viewing, it's also about the
level of consciousness.
Because I think everybody has a different perspective, perception.
Perception so everybody's gonna see this the other

(46:48):
one's gonna see that that's right is it what it is yes yes your own consciousness
is what's experiencing this and it always goes through your own mental filters
so you know some people will view different events differently than others Say you're a,
you know, if you're viewing something from a war, for example,

(47:13):
like I'll take World War II, somebody who is American may view a particular
battle with a completely different consciousness,
a different flavor than somebody who was on the other side.
To say somebody who's Japanese or German, who, you know, they may view that

(47:34):
thing with horror or, you know, be terrified or feel all kinds of different things.
And somebody who feels very like American patriotic say, it's really interesting
when you, when, if you're an analyst and you're looking at a lot of people's
different sessions, you have to take into account who each of these remote viewers is.
You have to know your people so well inside and out because everyone's perspective

(47:58):
is going to be clouded by their own experiences.
It's not clouded. It's just how they're relaying it, how they're experiencing
it. Their consciousness encompasses not just... I mean, you're everywhere...
At once but you are also who you are in
this lifetime or perhaps through many lifetimes you
carry something some essence with you and you bring

(48:20):
that to the table when you remote you i don't know if i'm answering your question
it's good but also for example i i heard multiple same question about the the
healing because i'm going to tell you the truth it's already done that that's
almost whatever you said,
but I like to, to chair and hear everybody,
you know, what this, whatever the experience, but for an example about healing in the remote viewing,

(48:47):
once in my experience, when I have done it, we,
we heal by connecting with the highest self that is the highest of that actually
do the job and not actually us doing the job because then we take the the will
the fluid will from the person if we actually do it ourself is it how you do it.

(49:09):
It's kind of okay i understand i understand and when we do remote healing we
become one with the person that we're healing and we do bring in all kinds of
you know higher light love healing divine presence, whatever,
you have to know the person you're healing first and always get their consent

(49:31):
before you do a remote healing session.
And we always find out what their belief system is because that belief system
is extraordinarily powerful.
And if they're a Christian, then
their belief system may involve a God presence who then you can call in.
It's all relevant or they

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may have a different belief system and you call
in what what you know but it's all that same energy it's positive it's it's
that power the power of belief is what changes the person someone can also for
example carrying a memory like
from past life and then even from another dimension for example example?

(50:17):
Absolutely. Back in here on 3D. Yes, absolutely.
There are many people that I've worked with that have trauma from past lives.
They even have some, maybe some fractured memory from something that happened.
And we do work on healing, on healing that and bringing them to a greater understanding.
We remote view what, why they're having these memories, what actually happened, who they were.

(50:43):
And when you share this with them and they get to experience it again,
it helps release that trauma.
And then it's a good story for them to tell. They carry that with them.
It's beautiful. It's really interesting.
You can absolutely remote view your past lives. No question.
Okay. And one more.

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Have you experienced, for example, like,
But some beings that actually don't have a very good attention.
Yes, yes. Many times I try not to give those out to new students,
but we do sometimes people that are experienced.
We do sometimes remote view.
There are a number of, I'll say, alien presences out there.

(51:26):
Maybe some have interacted with us. Maybe some I've looked at have never come
to the planet, but they're still pretty awful people out there.
And yeah, you can absolutely remote view them. And they usually know that you're remote viewing them.
They may try to block you or they may tell you all kinds of really horrific,
horrific stuff or try to influence you.

(51:48):
And so that's really something for the more experienced remote viewer to do
that has a lot of different tools and understanding so they can realize when
it's time to shut that down.
I've shut down that kind of communication multiple times in the past because
I don't want that energy.
I don't want that person in my head. Yeah.
Okay. For example, what I have done is to connect to my higher self,

(52:13):
to give me the right intention for the being coming toward me.
And because I think it's very important to connect with the purpose of ourself
to protect us, because actually they use our belief for our false belief.
And then they pretend to be for whatever we carry on ourself.

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So that's why I just wanted to know how you do it and how most of your work engages.
I just wanted to know that.
Yeah, yeah. It's how you're describing it, that makes sense to me.
When I remote view an alien race, the very first thing, and I teach this to

(52:59):
all students, is you have to evaluate what their intentions are toward you.
Because you need to know that upfront. If it's a bad intention,
if it's a new student, I say, shut it down. Let's just move on to something else.
If the intentions, you can feel the intentions are healthy for you,
then you can probe further and find out what they want to tell you.
And experienced remote viewers, I myself am willing to explore the intentions

(53:24):
of some pretty malevolent beasts out there because I want to know what's out there.
I'm curious about the universe. None of us are.
All sunshine and light we have our dark moments too and so
i'm really interested in other
other critters out there and how they approach life
in this amazing universe so yeah yeah but for the all beautiful all the things

(53:49):
that's right but but the thing is i think some they carry some energy that is
not compatible with us that is like heart damage or noggins can shut down because of the
frequency that is not actually good for us. Do you understand?
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. When I work with students or more advanced students, I'll say,

(54:13):
or experienced remote viewers, we talk a lot about these kinds of things,
how to protect yourself when you're looking at different and talking to different
experiencing consciousness of different beings out there.
We have a lot of different methods that we use depending on what it is and who
it is to protect ourselves and protect our planet, too.

(54:34):
You don't want to send a signal to some malevolent race out there that's never
heard of Earth, right? They might show up.
Exactly. Yeah, so we've got to be careful.
Yeah. I'm going to let everybody answer the question because,
you know, there's too much.

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Okay, well, thank you, Jamila. I would appreciate it. Yeah. Good questions.
Thank you. And next we have Lana.
Lana. Woo. Hey, Merti. Hey, homegirl.
Hey. So the question I have is of all the targets that you've viewed over the
years, can you give us an example of one that was extremely shocking or surprising when you viewed it?

(55:18):
Oh, that is such a good question. Um.
Oh, man, I've been surprised and shocked so many times.
I'll talk just briefly about my remote viewing the World Trade Center.
Now, you have to understand, I remote viewed this in 1998, which was several
years before 2001 when it happened.

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And what I was given, one of the people I was working with in my group gave
me the next big terrorist attack on the United States.
That That was the target. I didn't know. I was going in blind. And I drew this.
And I didn't even understand what it was that I described and drew because I

(56:00):
didn't have a frame of reference.
It was years before it happened. And we posted it on our website.
And like, anyone have any ideas what this means? I described it.
And the idea of airplanes ramming into buildings, it just seemed completely weird.
I didn't even think those were airplanes that I drew. I thought they were bombs
because you know how bombs have those little like, you know,

(56:21):
air lawns or whatever, little wing type things. That's what I thought it was.
I thought it was bombs, you know,
because the World Trade Center had been bombed in 1993 in the garage.
And I thought that it was going to be another bombing kind of like that.
And like nobody looked at our website in those days.
It was, you know, the internet was still kind of new to most people.

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People weren't checking things out like they do today. There was no such term as going viral.
So it didn't go viral until after the fact, but that was kind of shocking.
But I think, let me think for a second. Gosh, I've remote viewed so much crap
over the years. Let's see. One thing that.
Okay, one of my coolest remote viewing experiences, and it was shocking because

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it was so incredibly beautiful, was looking at this other off-world civilization.
And this was for a friend of mine. This wasn't an official operational target.
It was a friend of mine who was really curious about a particular star system out there.

(57:26):
It's one no one here has heard of. It's just some random star system.
But this person was absolutely convinced that there was alien life there because
they had had an experience where, and they hadn't told me this at all ahead
of time. I knew nothing. I viewed this blind.
I didn't even know their backstory. story and this particular
star system they felt that they were visited they

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saw a ufo was a very unusual looking ufo
it looked like a a tube of lipstick but with the top off so the lipstick sticking
out like with the pointed edge that's and it like had like like a rim around
the top and the top thing sticking out like a lipstick sticking out of a tube
and it was up and down vertical.

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This is what they experienced. They saw the ship and they received a communication
and the beings in that ship or the ship itself or who knows what gave them this
information that they came from this particular star system.
So my friend gave me that star system to remote view and what she had written

(58:31):
down is any alien civilization in this particular star system. And I remote viewed.
I'm getting goosebumps. I wish you could see. It was the most beautiful,
incredible civilization I have ever, ever, ever remote viewed.
And I've remote viewed a ton of different civilizations.

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This was, it was amazing. The colors, the sounds, the music.
I tried to recreate that music myself and I just couldn't. It was so incredibly
beautiful. It made my heart sing.
I can still hear it in my head, but I can't recreate it because we don't have
those sounds here on this planet. And the love.

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And it was just overwhelming.
I literally couldn't stop crying from the sheer beauty of it.
And I've since given that to others to remote view and they all have the same.
Transformative experience they hear that music they
in the smell it's like every most amazing flower kind of like lily of the valley

(59:41):
if he even knows what those were I had those growing up in Massachusetts it's
just like holy crap the smell I just if you could bottle that you'd make a gazillion
dollars in perfume sales,
just everything about that civilization was beautiful.
There was literally zero anger, zero envy, zero greed, zero anything,

(01:00:03):
anything malevolent. It was just pure, pure beauty and light.
And everybody there was just so excited.
They were explorers.
Oh, man, that's like my favorite remote viewing experience ever.
That's cool thank you yeah amazing

(01:00:23):
wow this is excellent and next we have christopher's on hey christopher,
He's going to have a tough question, I know.
You're muted, Chris. Yeah, you're muted, Chris. Got to unmute yourself.
Hi, Birdie. Hey, Christopher. When you meet people you like or who you think

(01:00:43):
are interesting, do you ever use remote viewing to learn more about them? Absolutely never.
Never. I never do. And I never Google anybody. I've never Googled a single person
in my life except for famous people. You want to learn?
When an actress's birthday is or who's starring in a movie. Yeah, I'll Google that.
I've never Googled or remote viewed a private individual in my entire life.

(01:01:08):
I think people should have their privacy unless they open themselves up to,
unless they invite it in. So absolutely never, never.
I have another question, very different.
Since I have the floor, it's kind of related to a previous question.
Is there something you've learned in remote viewing that was interesting

(01:01:29):
about an event that was newsworthy or
historic that you that you would
like to share with us oh that's a
good question there's so much of that
actually let's see
there's so there's so much so much
man newsworthy oh

(01:01:52):
gosh okay give me a newsworthy event
and i'll tell you if i remote because i've like i'm overwhelmed here
with memories i'm reluctant to
front load the question with a
with a with something like that you did mention princess diana yeah oh that
was a setup 100 that woman was killed that was an assassination and there was

(01:02:15):
no doubt about it princess diana was assassinated that car crash was not a natural
car crash It wasn't just the paparazzi chasing her.
It was a setup, 100%. That's a very complicated case.
And I actually did a big project on that a long time ago.
And every remote viewer I've ever given that to gets the same thing.

(01:02:35):
And the royal family did her in, quite frankly.
Yeah i know it's terrible it's terrible it's awful she was
a wonderful person and you could really feel her beauty and she
had this inner light you remote view her and you get this she was just a wonderful
person on the inside i mean everyone's a complicated person right nobody's perfect

(01:02:56):
and of course she wasn't perfect either but she really had a lot of inner beauty
a really cool person and everyone who remote views her feels the same way they
feel like this is somebody
I would like to know and like to have in my life, really cool person,
and she was just cut down, just awful.
Thanks. And while I have the floor- Now the royal family is going to be after me. Just watch. .

(01:03:18):
Just going to say, Brian, I
think you're doing a beautiful job moderating this. I'm going to mute now.
Okay. Thank you. Brian's amazing. He's amazing. I could also comment.
The Buddha described the deva eye and the deva ear, which is the ability to
see earthy objects from a distance or heavenly sights or hear earthy sounds
or heavenly sounds. So that's remote viewing. The Buddha did that himself.

(01:03:40):
That's absolutely. The Buddha was a fantastic remote viewer.
There's no question about that. Anyone who engages in a meditation practice
over time, over years, and learns about themselves, they become a remote viewer
just naturally. They know things.
They can feel things. They hear things. It just happens.
Yeah. Okay. We've got Cheryl next. You're on, Cheryl.

(01:04:01):
Hi. Hi. This is the second remote viewing presentation I've attended,
and I'm really very new to this.
So my questions are probably not going to be that interesting to everybody else.
I bet it's going to be super interesting. Are you kidding? Every question is interesting.

(01:04:25):
Okay. So when you said we are the universe, I really resonated to that because
I kind of live like that all the time.
And it's caused me some problems in day-to-day just getting things done and
also just, you know, living.

(01:04:46):
So in the last remote viewing we did where you gave us three objects to remote
view, this was my first exposure to it.
I found that I had a lot of trouble getting out of the universe and getting down to the physical.
I couldn't see physical things.

(01:05:11):
It's like I was viewing it from a distance and I was viewing it abstractly.
Oh, man. Cheryl.
Okay, I'm going to interrupt you because this is you. I am so glad you were
saying this because you are bringing up such an awesome, awesome, awesome point.

(01:05:31):
And I should have mentioned this before, and I forgot.
Not everybody is a visual remote viewer.
People are generally...
Some people are very, what I'll call a physical remote viewer. They see the target.
They see, literally see what's there.
They will, if you give them the president of the United States,

(01:05:53):
they're going to draw that oval office and a flag and a seal on the desk and
the man himself behind the desk, right?
And I am not a physical remote viewer. Never been.
I am a conceptual remote viewer. And I bet that you are too,
Cheryl. conceptual remote viewers.
You're either conceptual, emotional, or physical. One of the three.

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And all three are incredible remote viewers. There's no right or wrong here.
A conceptual remote viewer, they just know what's going on.
They may not see it, but they know what's going on.
Maybe they get some of the other physical sensations and they may draw things
that look just like the target, but they know. They know on an intuitive level.
They feel the universe that way. Like you're talking about, that's a conceptual remote viewer.

(01:06:39):
Some people are emotional remote viewers and they really tap into anything that
has a sentience at the site and they feel everything that those people are feeling.
If you gave them the fire bombing at Dresden, they wouldn't draw the fire tornadoes.
They wouldn't understand.

(01:07:00):
Okay. So you give the a firebombing at Dresden. Physical remote viewer would draw it.
Draw those swirling tornadoes of fire and the buildings being destroyed and
just the devastation happening. There are people being killed.
They would draw all this.
Conceptual remote viewers would know this is a war scene. There's something
really horrible going on.
I am sensing that people are doing this and that.

(01:07:22):
You wouldn't necessarily draw it, but you'd know a lot about it.
Emotional remote viewers would would feel that horror.
They would be like my friend Jim, the remote viewer.
They would be screaming in pain and knowing that they're on fire and knowing
that they and their families are dying.
They would be the ones running through the house and screaming.
So everybody is...

(01:07:45):
By and large, most people are a combination of three with one more than the others.
So it's not like I never draw the target. I often do, but I know what's going on. I just know it.
And some people just feel it and some people just see it. So I don't know if
that, okay. I'm sorry. I interrupted you. Continue on.

(01:08:06):
No, what I was going to ask you was how do you get out of the universe and come down to the physical.
And you're telling me that that's not necessary. That is correct. That is not necessary.
You are a conceptual remote viewer, guaranteed. I can recognize people instantly
by how they talk about this.
You're a conceptual remote viewer. So you are the universe and you know what's

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happening. You don't have to see it.
Knowing it is as good as seeing it. It's just different. And so when,
And like, and so what, you know, so I'm going to be teaching a five-day class in August.
And I, what the reason I'm, I just want to have a small class.
And the reason I'm teaching it is because I am ready now to have another operational group.
I used to have an operational group two decades ago, and then I got out of public

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life because I was being harassed. Like you can't believe from the government.
I even had big name who everybody here knows.
I guarantee it threat. I was in a helicopter with this man and he threatened
to push me out of the helicopter. I kid you not. I'm not going to say who it was.
Christopher knows who it was because I've told him this story.
But anyway, so I got out of it because I was being harassed.

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My kids' lives were being threatened.
It was an awful, awful time, but I kept remote viewing and kept working on it.
And now I'm ready to have an operational group again. So I want to get a group
of remote viewers together. And I want all three kinds.
You need the emotional viewers because you need to know what people were feeling. Right?
Or what the aliens are feeling, right? You need to know what things look like.

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So you need the physical viewers and you need the conceptual viewers to understand
what the hell's going on at the site.
So you need all three to do a proper analysis and to really get everything that's going on there.
So I'm trying to build a operational group. So I'm teaching a class in August.
And if any of y'all are interested, it's going to be here in Albuquerque,

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New Mexico. And I guarantee, I guarantee you will have bi-location experiences.
You will be there. You will feel it. You will communicate with aliens.
You will get messages. You will do remote healing.
I'm even going to teach my special lottery techniques.
Very cool. Yeah. So if anyone wants to come to that, I can't do it online. This has to be in person.

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But if anyone's interested in joining my operational group, it's going to be
the most amazing thing ever. You don't have to live in Albuquerque to to be
a part of the operational group. You can live anywhere, but I have to train you in person.
And if anyone lives somewhere else and they'd like for me to come out and visit
and train a group of their friends, you can talk to me about that too. I'm open to that.
Well, I actually live in Santa Fe, but- Oh, Cheryl, perfect.

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I don't have a lot of money and I have no car, so my options are really limited.
To well I I this
is a big fault of mine I never charge anything for anything all
the events in our group are always been for free and this five-day
class I I am only charging what it's going to cost me in terms of materials

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and I'm I'm renting a venue I know where it's going to be it's going to be amazing
so I'm just going to charge what what it costs me because I'm getting something out of this too.
I get to put 30 years of practice and ideas and see it come alive in front of me.
So that's worth something to me. And that's worth having everyone there.

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But like for charging, I think you should. I'm just saying.
No, I'm just saying that's what I'm doing. That's what I always do.
It's my nature. So cost should not be a barrier.
And maybe some other people, maybe anyone listening, listening.
We are a nonprofit organization and we do accept donations.

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How much is it? I'll feed the bird. I haven't figured out the cost yet because
I have to make arrangements.
I want to do it at this really beautiful meditation center that's on the Rio
Grande, on Rio Grande Boulevard, which is right across from the Bosque.
So we can take breaks and walk across and walk into the woods there by the river.

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And it's a really beautiful meditation center. And they have rooms,
and I've spoken with them before. It's not that much money.
I just have to make arrangements for it for the five days
and and then I'll and then once
I know how much they're going to charge me then I know and once I know how many
people want to attend I want to accept up to 20 students but no more than 20

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then then I'll know how much it's going to cost but it it should be affordable
for everyone I did have another potential student ask if she could when I figure
out the cost if she could make payment arrangements and I did tell her
yes so there's always that option okay that's
possible yeah yeah so i

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i know i'm a fool for doing it for nothing but
that's no i do that's who that's who i
am and i want to have an operational group you guys are going to work for me
afterwards you know i mean you don't have to but if you want to and i think
everyone most people are going to want it because it's so wicked cool it's like
the coolest thing you'll ever do and we're going to do operational stuff i like
i get calls all the time From people who have tracked me down,

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who were like, you know what, law enforcement, all the time,
all the time, law enforcement looking for,
I've found bodies, found a body in the Anza Borrego Desert.
I've found bodies in other places. I've found different clues that the police may have missed.
I tracked a really funny story. I was going to mention this earlier when we

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were talking about remote healing.
So there was this guy. He's a famous, I mean, in certain circles,
rollercoaster developer.
And he had a partner. The partner absconded with like $10 million.
I forget the amount. It was like $12 million or something and ran off,
embezzled this money and disappeared.

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And so the rollercoaster developer, after working with the police for a couple
of years, couldn't find this guy, couldn't find the money.
He got desperate enough to call me. So he called me. and I...
Anybody wanted to know. He didn't believe in remote viewing necessarily, but he was so desperate.
So he's like, how can you prove to me that this works? And I said,

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okay, I'll call you tomorrow.
And the next day I called him and I said, you recently had food poisoning and
you have a problem with your kidneys.
And he about fell over because both of those things were chewy.
I'd just gotten over food poisoning from eating some bad sushi and he had a kidney disease.
And there was no way I could have known this wasn't on the internet.
I just did a remote a remote diagnostic session.

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I had gotten his permission to remote view him because he wanted me to tell
him something that I wouldn't know.
And so he hired me. And so I tracked this guy down to Australia,
to Sydney, and he flew me out to Sydney.
And I told him exactly where this guy was. We found him and we had a meeting with them.
And then I creeped the guy out by remote viewing him then and there and told
him some stuff that I shouldn't know.

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And they came to some kind of financial agreement.
But anyway, that was a pretty exciting case. wow wow
yeah you know it's what it's what i do and all of
you guys can do it too i want to do these kinds of projects again and
it takes a group you can't be one conceptual viewer you
i need my friends to help me out and i don't want to just do law enforcement

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stuff i want to figure out what is going on in this universe i want to figure
out what aliens are visiting us and why are they here?
I want to answer all of these questions.
That is why I am starting this operational group to have a group of people who
are adept at alien communication, who can relay information to different alien

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groups out there and get information, find out what's coming.
Why is the government actually pushing for disclosure now? I think that that's
very suspect and I have my theories about it because I remote viewed it.
But anyway, that's for another time.
But I would like anyone here who's interested to join me in this incredible
journey it would be super fun and.
And if we make any money off of it, you guys get paid. That's how it works.

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So for the video, we can put your email.
Do you want your email in the description of the video?
Absolutely. So people can reach you. Okay. Yeah. Or they can get a contact form on my website.
People can fill that out. And there's a message section. That's probably better
than sticking my email up there. Yeah. Just put my website up on the About Us section.
There's a contact form. People can send me a message and learn more about remote viewing and all that.

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But hey we still have got 40 minutes to go so let's keep it with the questions
guys over time if it's okay with you birdie yeah and did you have a follow-up question there cheryl,
just asking her what her website was it is abq for albuquerque abq ufos ufos
abqufos.com it's also abqufos.org which i recently acquired since we have we're

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now officially a non-profit so,
either one works think goes to the same place that's our website and you can
see all of our upcoming events we have and i have the class the five-day class
listed so you can see the dates,
and it tells you a little bit more about what we're going to be covering in
that class under or events.
And we are on our summer break right now. We normally have five to 10 events

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a month, but we are on summer break.
So we only have six events over the next six weeks. I know that sounds like a lot, right?
We're pretty active. And all of our events upcoming are all in-person events
for people in the Albuquerque, New Mexico area.
But we generally do have a lot of.
Zooms and YouTube live streams and things like that where anyone in the world

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can join in and participate.
So do keep your eye on us and follow what we're doing because we have some exciting things.
Oh, and I should actually pimp this out too. In April 2025, the first weekend
of April, 4th, 5th, and 6th, we are holding our very first conference.
It's called Alien Explorations conference.

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And we've got super duper, duperty duper big names coming.
Our website is going to be up within a week or two. We're just getting in the
speaker bios and photos now.
One of our group members, Rose Eckhoff, who is incredible. I wish she were here
right now. She's amazing.
She is our conference chairwoman. She has been making all of these incredible

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provisions for the conference. It's going to be held at an auditorium at the
University of New Mexico.
We already have an agreement with them. And it's going to be all day Saturday,
all day Sunday. And Friday night is a Meet the Speakers event.
It's going to be super exciting. So just keep an eye on our website,
and you'll see the link to the conference once we formally announce.

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We're just getting the speaker stuff in now. So anyway, all sorts of cool stuff on the horizon.
Okay. Okay, next we had Mary Poling want to raise her hand. Are you there, Mary?
Hey, Mary. You can unmute your mic. Mute. There she is.
Hey, Mary. I'm so glad you're here. Oh, I'm so glad to be here.

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I love, I wouldn't miss one of your YouTubes or Zoom calls.
I'm just like totally hooked. Mary's amazing.
Oh, you're so sweet. years and years
ago when i studied deep meditation
for a three-month long period on weekends every saturday and sunday it was to

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get down to the deeper levels and when that started opening up other things
i think that's where i got into areas that you talked about but i didn't know that's what they were.
And I got into remote healing.
And one, I was thinking about an experience after you described that civilization

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that was like a lipstick tube. Yes.
I was going through a very difficult period where
my business partner was having an affair with
one of our employees and we were separated at
the time and I had been
studying Tai Chi with a Tai Chi
master and it got me into a place as well as meditation I was driving home from

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Tai Chi and I was just feeling so lost and hurt just like worthless and I got
home and I did a deep meditation.
And all of a sudden, and I always do the same prayer, all those who serve the
highest light, me and only the highest light, you're invited for healing or counseling.

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And I would channel on a keyboard and channel the messages.
But this time I just sat in bed and my pets were around me and I was doing a deep meditation.
And all of a sudden, it was like what you described.
I heard these voices, but it was not like normal. And they were singing.

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It was like the choir, but it was something I couldn't describe.
And it was so beautiful and loving and just incredible.
They sang this song to me about how wonderful I was and how full of love and

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they had so much love for me.
And it was a choir and they sang for about four or five minutes.
And all I could think the whole time was human. It was like,
God, I wish I could record this.
You know, I want going to hear it again. So I'm wondering all those years I
channeled and did remote viewing before my last back injury,

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which kind of stopped everything.
Was that aliens? Was it angels? Was it my spirit guides?
How do you know who is communicating with you?
Well, one thing that you could do is remote view that experience and remote
view the origination of it, where it came from because it might've been spirit

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guides or some kind of, there's all,
I mean, there's all kinds of entities out there, not just aliens and humans.
There's this all kinds of interesting, sentient stuff out there.
And so you could absolutely remote view where that came from.
Maybe it was alien, maybe it was a spirit guide, or maybe it was you in the past or the future.

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It could be all kinds of things.
Wow. And so do you know, when you're doing these remote viewings,
are you assisted by alien beings and seeing this or is it within you?
You it's within me we're everywhere at once
we are everything and everywhere at once so you

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you are already the universe and you're
just choosing to focus on any
particular moment in the past or the
present or the future off planet on planet other dimension heaven whatever you
want to look at you can look at and it's just part it's part of who you are
and we we forget that We think that we are these disconnected beings in a body, on a planet,

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and that it requires great effort to experience something else.
But that's not actually the case.
We are way, way, way more than just a brain and a body. We are everything at once.
And you just have to experience it.
And the more you do, the more you understand it. and the more you understand

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it, the more you can do. It just builds on itself over and over.
Yeah. So in remote viewing.
Do you start out inside of yourself going, I want to see,
I mean, how do you, because when I used to channel and do remote healing for
people, I'd get visions and the other lady talking to you didn't get vision.

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She got senses and, but I would get visions.
That's how I, I'd see. You're probably a physical remote viewer.
So what I do when I'm teaching students, I always teach students giving them,
I give them things blind, which means they don't know what they're viewing.

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And it just makes it easier for them to understand what they're doing is real.
Because if you tell them ahead of time, okay, you're going to remote view Mount Rushmore.
Well, everyone's going to draw a mountain with four faces on it,
right? And it's really hard to get your left brain that wants to make it perfect
away from your right brain that is willing to give you the real information.

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So you do it blind. You don't tell them anything. You just say,
okay, we're going to remote view something.
And then you go through all of the various things that we do.
And at the end, they've got all this stuff they've produced,
whether it's on paper or they've made a model or what have you.
I do a lot of different kinds of techniques. techniques and then at
the end then then you say then you let them know what it was

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and sometimes a lot of times if it's something that is
in like the the cultural vernacular so you know like Mount Rushmore Niagara
Falls a lot of times the students will just guess it they're like oh is this
Niagara Falls there's a big old waterfall here you know a lot of times they'll
guess it if it's something that is iconic in some way but a lot of times they

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won't because I try to be I especially when I'm teaching,
I try to give really surprising stuff that nobody in a million years would,
they couldn't possibly guess.
They've never heard of it for one, maybe, or it's just something really strange
or beautiful or wonderful or whatever. Just cool stuff.
Well, I'm going to let you go because I know there are a bunch of people waiting

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in line, right? Thank you.
But I want to say I would love with all my heart and soul to be at your training.
But physically, I don't think I could last, you know, because I have to lay down, pain and all that.
So I still want to learn.

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And I'm here. I'm going to watch that three-hour training you have online once a week.
I'm going to check it out and do it.
I'm, I'm signed up to be one of your, your people.
If I, if I can do this on my own and in a little short bits,
but it sounds like it's better.

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People can go for a very intensive, long training to really get it down.
Right. Yeah. Well, the three hour thing I have online is just a modified version
of the military's method.
So it's not the actual method I use today, but I wanted to give people kind
of a historical rhetorical context and a taste of like basic remote viewing.

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And it's still good. It's still good information. And I do talk about how you
get what you get and all this other kind of stuff in there.
And it's still fun to do. I recommend everyone watch that because it's good
to have that kind of background.
But yeah, the way I teach it in my own personal methodology is very intense.
It takes five full days, 8am to 6pm all day.

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We do take breaks, many breaks, and it is exhausting and it makes you so, so hungry.
It's insane. You lose weight if you remote view a lot. That's why I'm very slender.
Seriously, it's why I weigh 120 pounds at 5'7". It's because I remote view all
the time and it burns a lot of calories.

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Your brain uses more calories than any muscle group in your whole body and remote
viewing uses a lot of calories.
So it's a good diet and we will have tons of snacks available at the class,
really yummy, super yummy, healthy food, big proponent of healthy foods.
So it's good. But yeah, it is intensive.

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It's like nothing you've ever done. It will change your life.
It'll give you a new perspective on so many different kinds of things.
It'll open up all these possibilities to you.
You can remote view, even you can remote view things like, Like,
what should I do for a career?
Like, say you feel stuck. You don't want to be a teacher anymore,

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or you're tired of being a salesperson or whatever.
You can remote view, what is the best possible career for me?
And it'll tell you. It'll tell you. You can look at all kinds of things.
You can look at really cool stuff like Brian.
You can look at the moment that the Buddha achieved enlightenment.
I give that out all the time. It's so, so incredible. And people then experience

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what the Buddha did in that moment.
It's amazing. You can look at what is the one thing that I am here to learn in this lifetime.
That one changes people's lives. I just, okay, I've been teaching this couple online for two years.

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I met them in Roswell at the Roswell UFO Festival. I met Eric and Shannon at
the Roswell UFO Festival a couple years ago.
We happened to be standing in line waiting to get into the UFO Museum.
And we just started talking about stuff. And he was really interesting.
He's a PhD in neurobiology, really interesting guy. and I invited him to come

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up and hang out with us in Albuquerque because he was coming to Albuquerque anyway.
He lives in California. He came up and stayed with us for a couple of days.
And we were just sitting around the table and he's like, do you ever hear of remote viewing?
Do you ever hear of the Farsight Institute? And I just died laughing because
that's like, oh yeah, I know a little bit about that.
But anyway, so he wanted to learn. So I've been teaching him online and it's

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hard to teach somebody online.
He's going to come to the class. But he's gotten to be so good,
even with just online instruction.
It's taken a lot, a lot of online instruction. We do like Zoom calls and his
girlfriend has been learning too. And he's amazing.
He's going to be fantastic, but
he needs some in-person instruction to get over those last few hurdles.

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But I've given him, what is the lesson you need most to learn in this lifetime?
And that was transformative for him. That changed his life, literally changed his life.
So you can use it as a tool for self-exploration. You don't have to answer the
big questions in the universe. You can just answer the big questions for yourself.
In other words, long way of saying that.
That is awesome. Thank you so much, Terry.

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Yes. Thank you, Bertie. This is going great. There's 29 of us.
So next we have Brad and Fran.
They haven't spoken yet. So Brad, you're on from Texas. Hey,
Bertie. Thank you. I'm going to just go ahead and go right into the question.
You'd mentioned that your intro, remote viewing the future.
Yes. I have a two-parter, so there'll be a follow-up. Is that the same as precognition

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or is there a difference? Yes.
It's the same thing. It's the same thing. The future is really an interesting thing to remote view.
And there's a lot of theories about what's going on there and questions about
whether the future is fixed or not, whether there is probabilistic or fixed.
And from my experience and looking at the future,
I think that there are some things in the future that are fixed because of the

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weight of the past, because of events that have led up to what's going to happen.
And those things are, there are things in the future.
And you can tell when you become proficient at remote viewing,
you can tell what in the future is fixed.
You feel it. You'd be like, okay, this is going to happen no matter what.
There's no changing this.
And there are some events like that coming up, which are really interesting,

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but that's not for today.
But anyway, we'll talk about it in the class.
Really interesting stuff. And then there are some things and you can feel like,
like almost like currents or eddies around when you remote view them and you
feel like this is a possibility, but it could also go this way or that way.
And so some things I think are probably probabilistic. That's ridiculous, but there you go.

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Probably probabilistic and some things are fixed.
But it is precognition. And I had written this really funny article a long time ago.
It's not online anymore, but it's going to be in an addendum to my new book
that's going to be coming out on remote viewing.
But I don't know if anyone saw the movie Minority Report, you know,

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which is... So I had called this essay, My Department of Pre-Crime,
because that's essentially what you're doing as a remote viewer.
You're able to like, guess what's going to happen.
And we don't want to get to a point in the future where we are using,
probabilistic futures to incarcerate

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people right but i could see that happening i could see minority report becoming
kind of a realish a realish thing it's yeah well yeah ai is already using ai
is that is correct predictive analysis for that's correct behavior exactly my my follow-up
Because as far as the accuracy goes when you have a set task,

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is the accuracy better or do you even do this where you have remote viewers work in a group setting?
Oh, okay. That's a good question. Now, see, I'm going to go back to you get
what you get. I believe every session is 100% accurate.
I don't believe anyone ever gets a piece of data that is wrong.

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It is a question of understanding why the person got that piece of data.
But your question about being together in a group, yes, that does make the data stronger.
And people have a deeper experience if a group of people are remote viewing
the same thing at the same time. Absolutely.
There's no question about that.
So in a classroom setting, this works very well for getting people over the

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initial humps of belief and acceptance in their own abilities.
So you have a whole group and I always give every
at the beginning give everyone the same thing blind you
know they don't know what they're getting basic things at the beginning because
they're easy to analyze more complex things as the as the class goes on because
then they start understanding the types of data that they get and I try to identify

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within the first session which I can I almost 100% of the time can do what kind
of remote viewer they are and I let them know No,
because I don't want people to get frustrated because Bob is drawing the target perfectly.
And Margie is not able to draw it, but she's describing things that are there.

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I don't want Margie to feel bad seeing Bob's drawings.
I don't want Bob to feel bad seeing Margie's descriptions.
So it's really important to let people know what kind of viewer they are.
But in a group setting, everybody has a better time for sure.
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Brad.
Good question good answer okay fran fran

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you're on next friend hey fran hey i
just have some questions because i'm a little bit new to all this kind of stuff
and you want your camera at all do you want to here hang on it's good good for
the videos i see the guests okay okay are you Do you get me on there?
Wait, wait, wait. I think maybe I could.

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There. There I am. Okay. Now, mine. No, it's not there yet. You have a second.
There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. Look how beautiful you are.
Well, thank you. You're a sweetheart.
But my questions, my son, I guess, has been trying to get me involved and doing things.

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And meditation. I'm very ADHD.
Okay. So I probably have never meditated because...
I sit down and I think this and then, oh, let's go here.
You know, just like a squirrel. There's a dog. Look at that cat.
Isn't he pretty, you know? And I mean, I'm just everywhere, everywhere.

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Okay, Fran, I have ADHD. I've had it my whole life.
I didn't even know what it was until the past few years. And I realized that,
oh, that's why I can't focus on anything.
I honestly believe, and this is just from experience working with literally
thousands of people, people with ADHD make the absolute best remote viewers
because they don't get fixated on things.

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They're always willing to look at the next shiny thing, right?
So honest to God, people with ADHD, I am so happy when they're in a class I
teach because I know they're going to excel. And that's the truth.
Some people come to the class and they've had years of meditation practice and

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they're wonderful meditation, wonderful meditators.
Those are the people that I actually find the most difficult to teach because
they already have preconceived notions about what they're doing and what they're getting.
And you have to break down some barriers there because they come in believing
with a strong belief system in their own practice.

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And this is a little different than meditation practice, although it can incorporate
a meditation practice, But you don't have to be a meditator to be a wonderful remote viewer.
In fact, it can be a hindrance at times.
It's like one of these things. There's a balance here. But don't worry.
You'll be awesome. That's great.
I have tried to meditate. And it's like, you know, either I'm everywhere or I fall asleep.

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Yeah, that's okay. Falling asleep is a type of meditation.
It absolutely is. There's nothing more beautiful than being asleep.
So then my other observation
is sometimes I've just
come to the realization that I am part of

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the universe and universe is me so whenever I'm asking my guides or my higher
self or whatever it is that I want to know about or hear from that's just my
higher self talking to me talking back to me.
It's not like it's some kind of crazy guy out there in the sky or woman in the

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sky that's trying to manipulate me.
It's me. So I just thought that was really pretty.
It's me talking to me or reassuring me or whatever it is that I need to know.
So that's That's nice to know because, like I said, I'm very...

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I start something and then I get distracted. So that's good.
Yeah. I found that people that are neurodivergent, people on the autism spectrum,
people with ADHD, they absolutely make the best remote viewers.
They really, really do because they are already thinking and using different
kinds of brain patterns.

(01:39:17):
They have a bigger delineation between their left and right brains.
They're more easily able to disregard the left brain in all of its incessant
chatter and focus on some of the more creative things.
It's really kind of an interesting thing, but just working with thousands of
people, that's what I've found.

(01:39:38):
And being one of them myself, I'm a neurodivergent person, absolutely.
I can never hold a real job. That's why I've been entrepreneurial my whole life.
But hey, I'm a great remote viewer.
Well, that's great. That's great. That's Wonderful then. So I don't really need
to learn about meditation before I show up.
I just need to show up, right? You just need to show up. I guarantee,

(01:39:59):
I swear, I have never, ever, ever, ever once in thousands upon thousands of
people on this fine planet ever had a student that did not have an incredible
experience and believe,
absolutely believe they're a remote viewer at the end. Never, never, never.
Great. Thank you so much. Thanks, Fran.

(01:40:21):
Thank you, Fran. And next, we've got Laura and then Sabrina. You're on, Laura.
There we go. Thank you. This beautiful, beautiful, beautiful place,
Bertie, that you got to experience.
Yes. I want to go there. So does it have a name? And what was it that brought
you to that particular experience?

(01:40:42):
It was a friend of mine that had had this UFO encounter with the lipstick-shaped UFO.
And in the beings or the craft itself, she didn't see any beings,
but she She received a message when she saw this. It was in her backyard.
And she received this message that they were from this particular star system.

(01:41:04):
And so I had said that for her birthday present, I would remote view anything that she wanted.
And she had never told me about this experience. She never told anybody about it.
And so she had me remote view where that lipstick was from, where that lipstick UFO was from.
And that's how I... Does it have a name?
I don't know what the name was. I don't know. I know what star system it is and all this.

(01:41:30):
I'm not going to say anything because I'm going to be doing a big project on
this when I get my operational group going because I want to learn more about
the civilization. I think that it has, that there's something important there.
I felt that when I remote viewed it, that there's something essential and that's
probably why they were visiting.
There's something essential here, something that we humans need to know and

(01:41:52):
something we can connect with.
And so I'm going to be doing a big project. So, yeah. Yeah.
If I simply wanted badly enough to go there,
I'd sort of made the suggestion and just sort of attempt and say,
you know, I'm not exactly sure where you are, but I want to go to this very,

(01:42:12):
very high, beautiful, beautiful place.
All you have to do is say, I want a remote view of that thing that Bertie was
talking about. That's it. Boom.
You'll be there. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, okay and Sabrina's next last one with
her hand up here we go hello again Bernie hi Sabrina.

(01:42:35):
I had a question about staying out of the radar of those that were bothering you. Yeah.
That's what has made me nervous about doing it. And because I was considering
originally the Monroe Institute. Yes.
And then I was like, oh, I don't want to be in that radar. So can you speak

(01:42:55):
a little bit more about that?
Yeah, I think that the world has changed so much and attitudes have changed.
Governments change. There's more openness now to all of these different kinds of things.
There are a lot of scientists now studying consciousness, especially with regard
to the UFO slash UAP phenomenon.
We've got scientists such as Dr. Gary Nolan talking about how important consciousness

(01:43:17):
is in this space and others.
And I don't think that it's as big a concern as it was 30 years ago,
almost 30 years ago. I was absolutely vilified by the government for doing these
kinds of things, threatened.
My family was threatened. I had government vans parked out front of my house

(01:43:40):
night and day, 24-7 for weeks upon weeks upon weeks.
It was very intense. And I have been kind of just slowly tipping my toes back in the water here.
And I haven't had any problems.
And I don't even feel, I don't feel it. I would feel it as remote view,
long-term remote view. I would feel if there was some pushback.

(01:44:00):
And I am not feeling that pushback anymore.
I think that we're reaching a point where these kinds of skills are going to
be super important in the future when we have more open contact,
once disclosure, more formal disclosure happens.
I think that people who have these skills are going to be highly important in
the next phase of our human evolution.

(01:44:22):
You know, and so I don't feel that that I just don't feel that that's the same
problem that it was before.
That long ago. I think we've reached a new era and these are areas where people
can explore and not be vilified.
Now, am I going to do a project looking at secret things that the government's doing right now?

(01:44:46):
Probably not. I am going to be careful about what I'm looking at.
I think it's totally fine to look at alien civilizations, find out what they're doing.
I am not going to look and find out where certain government things are happening
because I think Today, that's where you'll get into some trouble.
So I'm going to leave those guys to their business and work on really cool stuff

(01:45:09):
that I believe can help our entire human family raise our own conscious evolution
and understand each other better,
have a more beautiful, productive.
Glorious, love-filled, light-filled life.
Because that should be the hope for everybody.

(01:45:29):
And that's what I would like to work toward. So that's where my attention is
going to be on beautiful and cool things.
Yeah, I like that. Just one in those lines.
Are they able to know, perceive, or do they have a device to know if somebody
is remote viewing a particular space that they don't want anybody there?
Yeah, the government said that they stopped their remote viewing program back

(01:45:54):
in 1995. They're not doing it anymore.
Of course, they're still doing it.
Those guys all reach retirement age, which is why they disclosed it at that
point. But they have a whole...
It's been ongoing. They've got a big secret program. They know if you're remote
viewing something you shouldn't be. They've got remote viewers counter remote viewing.

(01:46:14):
They've got remote viewing wars going on. It's pretty amazing.
All these different kinds of things that the government's doing.
And I used to be super into that.
I really was. I wanted to find out what those, I was going to use a bad word
there, what those goobers were doing.
But no, I don't care anymore.
Let them be men. And men, men, men, men, let them be men and do their thing.

(01:46:37):
And I am going to work on elevating our own human existence and looking at really
cool, beautiful things and helping people along the way do some law enforcement
work, find some missing, find people that are missing, help give families some closure.
Maybe look for some missing treasures.
There's some cool treasures out there I've got my eye on that I would like to find, stuff like that.

(01:46:58):
I think that just doing fun, cool, beautiful things and exploring the potential
that we have as human beings to connect with our fellow cosmic citizens out there,
I really want to have a relationship with some of the more beautiful,
beautiful beings out there and learn from them and have them learn from us because we, you know what,

(01:47:20):
we may be puny and small, but we still have a lot to offer this universe.
So I think that there's a fair exchange that can happen.
Been and now I have a questions
on dreams yeah and
how does because I
know I heard somebody a dream influencing but that's not necessarily what I'm

(01:47:44):
interested in right but but there's actually things you can do in your dreams
I mean I because I used to and I don't know why it all stop,
but I used to be able to just like be in another planet,
wake up, go to the bathroom, and then go back into the dream again. Sure.

(01:48:06):
And just continue what I was doing. Right. Well, nobody knows what dreams are,
right? There's still a big mystery even to science.
I mean, there's all these different theories about what we're doing.
We're processing information, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, but nobody really knows.
Maybe it is a whole nother universe that we're living in when we sleep.
I don't know what dreams are exactly.

(01:48:26):
You can absolutely remote view dreams you've had to find meaning in it and things like that.
It's something I haven't done a lot of, but you can absolutely use remote viewing
to investigate any question that you have, whether it's about dreams or about
your future or about your past or about your dog.
Dogs are cool to remote view. Oh my gosh, they're so cool. They're beautiful

(01:48:50):
inside and out, and they have got the most...
Amazing minds they they're primitive and
and complicated all at
once dogs are really i'm a big dog person dogs are really cool and a bird person
i got parrots so a parrot my i have one parrot african okay because i used to

(01:49:11):
so so i used to communicate with ets uh-huh and feel them around.
I don't really feel them anymore, but who was it that was talking about meditation?
It took me two years before I could sleep.
So don't give up.

(01:49:32):
In remote viewing, you can always contact any alien life form that you have
interacted with in the past.
I've had my own UFO experiences. We didn't get a chance to get into that today, day.
But those experiences you can relive through remote viewing and find out more
and more and more, have real conversations with the beings that decided to visit you.

(01:49:55):
You can have real conversations, find out who they are, what they're up to,
why you, why do they want to visit you?
And you might find out that you're special in some way, that they really wanted to see you particular.
Or you might find that you were just in the right place at the right time or
the wrong place at the wrong time or whatever, whatever your perspective is.
It's fascinating stuff, everybody.

(01:50:17):
Now, when are you doing the class?
The class is August 21st, which is a Wednesday, and it will go eight to six for five days.
Last day is Sunday, the 25th. And on the Saturday night, we're all going to
go out to dinner somewhere.
And you guys, all the students get to pick something secret away from me,

(01:50:38):
something for me to remote view blind for them. And I'll do it in public at a restaurant.
So I would love to attend that really. Yeah.
So just drop me a note and in like the round the, for like in a couple of weeks
around the first week of July, once I, cause I'm waiting to see like how many

(01:50:58):
people are interested and then I can book the space.
I know what, what biggest space I don't want. I don't want any more than 20
people. That's the maximum.
But if I only have like eight or 10 people interested, then that helps me determine
the space I need. And then I'll book the space, let everybody know what their
portion of everything is going to cost and people can pay over time or pay it up.

(01:51:19):
Hopefully most people can pay it up front because I have to pay it up front, right?
Are you hoping to get a space where there's also rooms?
Well, the place that I'm going to book is a meditation center.
It's absolutely gorgeous and it does not have rooms, but there's lots of rooms
all over Albuquerque. I can send hotel lists if you're coming from out of town.

(01:51:42):
And I've got a really great list of hotels that we've already come up with for
our conference next spring.
So I can send everybody that list if you're coming from out of town.
Okay. Yeah, because I have a little house. Otherwise, I'd let everyone stay
here. But my house is really small.

(01:52:02):
If it's been within walking distance to where you know, the event is happening.
And that would be my thing. But yeah, that's neither here nor there.
Yeah, look it up. Thank you for your answers. And thanks, Sabrina.
Yeah, thank you, everybody. And feel free, everybody contact me with any of

(01:52:23):
your questions, your thoughts, your comments, whatever you want to ask.
I can't promise I will answer you right away because I'm in the middle of a
whole bunch of stuff right now. I had some family stuff going on.
I'm still working on, but I will get to you. I promise.
And if you're interested in the class, let me know. I'll put you on the list
and I'll give you an update when all the arrangements have been made and you

(01:52:47):
can let me know for sure or not if you're going to be in the class and And we're
going to have an absolutely remarkable time.
And if you want to see the three hour, like online thing I did for the group,
just drop me a note and I'll send you a link to it.
And it's on my StreamYard account and you can view it at any time.
And you can watch it over and over if you like. Just one last question.

(01:53:11):
What are the possibilities of doing something with the remote viewing?
Like, what do you mean something with remote viewing? Like, I don't know,
career or something, you know, like, oh, well, turning it into something,
you know, besides personal use.
Yeah, I mean, absolutely. You can find people have, there's people that teach

(01:53:32):
remote viewing out there.
There are people that do remote healing for others. There's all kinds of opportunities.
You just have to, you have to be an entrepreneurial person if you want to turn
this into some kind of career and get to see how well you develop your abilities
and how well you, mostly, the big thing is how well you understand yourself.

(01:53:54):
That's the big question. How well you understand yourself self
and yeah so there you
go thank you yeah thank you i've got
a question about famous remote viewer marie orsic
from the germans in world war ii she supposedly remote viewed the aldebaran
star system like 65 light years away yes there's some discussion on the internet

(01:54:16):
that maybe she never existed she was first mentioned a book in 1960 morning
magicians and just a few photographs of which looked kind of like 1960s style.
So I wonder, that would be something
to remote view, whether she actually existed or not, I don't know.
Yeah, that would be. I don't know. I've never looked into that.
I've heard those stories too, and I've never looked into it. That's a good question.

(01:54:36):
Brian, I'm going to add that to my list. Things to look at in the future for sure.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I don't know either. Okay, Jamila, she's got her hand up. Hey, Jamila. Yeah.
Sorry, I pushed the wrong button. So I like it when you say, for example,
like to know yourself, because this is the actual goal, because I think we are

(01:54:57):
like unconsciously antipers, you understand?
And we have antipers that we are,
how do I say this, do things and especially coming from us,
but can be also this is something that an entity that would like experience
the human experience to actually live through the human things that they cannot do.

(01:55:23):
For example, that's very interesting what you just said because I have been
working on that with my sister because she's also on that thing.
But yes, I like what you said. I just wanted to... Thank you.
Thank you. Yeah, that should be our goal in our whole life is to understand
ourselves and who we are in relation to everything around us.

(01:55:46):
And remote viewing is a wonderful tool for that.
Because I think the people that have the sensibility, it's very important to
centralize themselves and analyze themselves more on the inside.
Because whatever is inside, it's outside of yourself.
Right. And if the work is not done on the inside, you're definitely going to

(01:56:09):
experience what actually you are feeling, you're emotionally.
That the person is carrying you.
I don't want to use my accent, but yes, this is what I wanted to say.
But also, for example, when you talk about create a group, this is what you
said, create a group to work on some project.

(01:56:33):
Are you selective about this?
Well, to a degree. I want people who want to be in a group and who understand
what the work really entails, people who are willing to self-examine and to
learn more about themselves.
And their data so that they can be better remote viewers.
And so I'll be a little bit selective. If I think someone isn't a good fit,

(01:56:55):
I'll be honest with them. And then they have to be able to work with other people.
And, you know, so they're, yeah, a little, a little bit, but generally people,
it's kind of, people kind of self-select themselves in or out of groups like
this, I think. So I think that people, anyone is welcome to take the class.
You don't have to be interested in being part of an operational group.

(01:57:18):
You can just take the class if you just want to learn how to remote view and
have an incredible experience.
And you don't have to do anything after that. There's no expectations whatsoever.
But I am hoping that there's at least a few people that take the class that
think, holy cow, this is the coolest thing I've ever experienced.
And I want to keep doing it. I hope there's a few of those.

(01:57:40):
Well, what I have done, it was amazing.
It was so good experience. Everything I have lived, it was an experience. Yeah.
Yes, so thank you for sharing everything that you said. Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome.
And I just want to say, I know that there has been a chat going on on the side,

(01:58:01):
and I've been trying to be present and listening and answering questions.
So I was not able to read all the chat.
So if you have questions that you posted in the chat, please email them to me, and I will answer them.
It might take me a few days, but I will get there. So thank you.
Also, Christopher had his hand up earlier. Sometimes these things time out.

(01:58:22):
So I just want to ask Christopher, do you want to chime in?
I just wanted to fill in the time, but I don't think it's necessary anymore.
Oh, well, we can go a bit further. Oh, that's okay. Yeah, I actually do need
to use the ladies room because I did have a lot of water.
Unless you want to take a break and come back, that's fine too.
I actually have stuff I have to do this afternoon.

(01:58:44):
Okay. Yeah, we did plan for two hours. Yeah, this is wonderful,
wonderful. Wonderful. I enjoyed
speaking with everybody here and I hope you learned a thing or two.
Maybe you learned that I'm a little crazy and that is an absolutely wonderful
thing to learn because I am.
So I love all my heart. Did you put her contact stuff in the chat? No.

(01:59:05):
Okay. Here, I can do this right now.
Here's my email. I'm putting this in the chat right now. I think it's right on the meetup itself.
It is. Yeah. Oh, okay. Nevermind.
Thank you but birdie we'd like to have you back
to talk about your ufo et oh yeah oh my
god that's like a whole nother can of worms there i got

(01:59:26):
all kinds of stuff to say about that yeah we should book another
time for i'll contact you later absolutely this has
been excellent we had about 30 people lots of really good
questions and discussion you're really shining bright birdie this
has been unexpected success well i
hope everybody enjoyed it and tell your friends to
to come to the next one and and if you're interested and

(01:59:47):
whatever or just want to ask me a question or even just
send me a smarky email go for it okay i
love you all very much yeah people can unmute their mics
and give her a little clap a little applause thank you birdie appreciate it
clapping for you guys thank you it's wonderful thank you thank you thank you

(02:00:08):
and good crowd thanks for coming too yeah yeah love it okay bye guys okay bye now bye.
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