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August 22, 2025 106 mins
In this thought-provoking episode, UAP Lee and Stijn Fawkes sit down with activist and documentary filmmaker Richard Short to explore the hidden forces shaping our world. The conversation dives into the dark realities of child exploitation, the cultural and religious systems that enable abuse, and the psychological impact on society. From there, the discussion expands into the bigger picture—examining history, the nature of consciousness, and the rising call to awaken during the Age of Aquarius.

Together, they uncover the esoteric meanings behind law, education, and control systems, questioning whether our schools teach knowledge or simply reinforce indoctrination. The trio also confronts the masterminds behind global structures of power, asking who truly pulls the strings—and why hidden knowledge has been kept from the masses. Finally, the dialogue ventures into the interdimensional and extraterrestrial, exploring what these phenomena reveal about human potential, spiritual awakening, and our collective future.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:07):
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(00:28):
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
There's a relation to some comments that you made on
a Facebook page.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
This is a Fox News alert.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
The Epstein files have been released. Across the Pond you're
looking at now, sir.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Everything that happens now is happening for sure.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Now, welcome everyone to Across the Pond, the podcast that
dares to uncover the mysteries lurking beyond the veil of reality.
From government cover ups and secret experiments to hauntings, cryptids
and UFO encounters, we explore the unexplained and the conspiracies

(01:24):
that keep them hidden. And today we are here, of course,
with you ape Ly, the one and only, the notorious one,
and our guest Richard Short. This is a very last
minute podcast, but this is absolutely gonna be a good one. Guys,

(01:46):
Thank you for getting here, Thank you for joining us, Richard,
Thank you for you know, first of all, doing what
you do, and you know, for who doesn't for everyone
who doesn't know you yet, what exactly do well?

Speaker 6 (02:00):
Across the pond?

Speaker 7 (02:02):
So here in the UK, very well known activist from
the public eye, documentary maker, video maker. But the most
important thing that I've always put my efforts into is
the failings upon the children across the world, not just
in this country, due to the structure and the system

(02:23):
that we were all born into.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
And it's actually a horror show.

Speaker 7 (02:28):
So many years back I got involved of all of
that and started looking at things deeply. And once you
do that, it is that case of the red peel Blooper.
Once you've done it, you can never turn back, and
you'll never look at the world saying ever again.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, you know, we were just talking off air then
just before we got started, the thing that started drew
me to this topic originally was Missus got into this.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
She I can't remember how she did. She's just stumbled
upon it.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
And then obviously with the Epstein things starting and that
took her took her very far down and she got
into this case. And the reason why A messaged you
is just because I've seen something that you shared that
referred to it and it just triggered something and I thought,
I've got to get you on because this is a
big topic at the moment. A lot and a lot
of people in the world feel like a lot about

(03:14):
this has been suppressed, and you know, information is hidden,
people are silenced, and like many of the topics that
were discussed on this podcast, somebody I potentially the deep
State maybe and various other people are trying to shut
this stuff down and stop the public from learning about it,
and various distractions perhaps have been thrown up into the air.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
And I wanted to get you on.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Because you've, like we've already mentioned, you've gained notoriety now
for basically speaking what your version of the truth is,
and you're sharing information with people, normal people like us
that need to know about what is happening. And obviously
what you think you're seeing is very important. And we
wouldn't have got you on if we didn't sort of
align ourselves with information being important in that realm as well. So,

(03:59):
you know, you said that you got into it and
once you took the pill, that was it. But once
you started dipping your toe down the rabbit hole, I mean,
what did it uncover and what made you want to
go further from there.

Speaker 7 (04:10):
It's important to know that my journey is actually I
suppose I had a bit of a privilege with how
it all began. It began because of religious studies, and
then that's really where these things start to, you know,
well unravel from. But the religious studies began because when
I left school, I never had to do religious studies

(04:31):
in school. When I left school, of course, I'm aware
of all the different manastream cultures. I had friends for
most of them. And I had that question as a
simple question, if I was going to be a part
of a religion or believe in a god so to speak,
which one would have get involved with which you know
and start looking into him? Well very early on. Alert

(04:52):
if I had a whole lifetime just studying Christianity, for example,
or even Islam, you still wouldn't have enough years in
your life to know everything about all. So then it
made me realize that religions are actually just the title
for what I would classes now as a cultural background.
Most people on the Earth are born into a cultural
background or because of their parents being Pacific culture, they

(05:14):
then carry that religion or that title. But there's cultural
backgrounds the religions theirselves being the cult if you want
to call it. In every case, they come with rules
and regulations, they come with the idea of how they
put it out. So that's why they're then titles as religion.
It's taken a cultural background and then putting the foundation

(05:37):
in place, which is how they allow to call their
salves churches and temples and so on. Well, anyway, from
an early age, of course, just through normal news and
mainstream and accord word of mouth, common knowledge, you hear
a lot about the church and how they have a
very strange taste for boys.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
It never made sense.

Speaker 7 (06:00):
Why is it like so many of these people that
work for churches are interesting in little boys. You don't
hear about churches riping little girls. It's always little boys,
and that's something that triggered them a deep dive into why.
So we also understand from a different cultural sort of outlook.
You know, for example, Islam, we know that a lot

(06:20):
of people that are you know, Muslims and stuff, we
have these sort of gangs and stuff, but you don't
hear about them touching boys. They're always you know, younger girls.
So again it's a cultural thing. There's something going on
behind it which we can answer a lot for through
a quick cap on that. You know, why do Muslims
have their sort of taste in that category. It's generally
because their prophet Mohammad allegedly married his wife for layar

(06:45):
at nine, embedded her when her biological body and said
it's ready, and apparently that was two years on or
something and she was eleven. So in their belief they
have that reasoning to say, look, when the woman bleeds,
basically that's the biological body, which has no law as such,
has no regulation. When it does that, the body's telling
you it's ready to reproduce. So in their argument, that's

(07:08):
been twisted over the centuries now, and of course they're
living in the Western world and well that's not right.
Could we have the age limit of sixteen? Other places
have different age limits. But that's where that came from.
That issue. The church issue has a bit more of
a I suppose not a Masonic sort of layout, but
what it is imagine the free masonry orders of the Earth,

(07:32):
one of which would be known as the Templars. There
are a lot of these masonry orders, and you know,
even like the Golden Dawn, if you look at the
Golden down Aleister Crowley, you know, even he's written in
his own archives about you know, in one year alone
he had over one hundred and twenty boys, and his
belief was understanding sexual rituals through sodomy, you know, from

(07:55):
doing that to boys. So by him doing that process,
I believe that given access to magic powers and you know,
magic of the mind, you'll be able to foresee things.
And it, you know, did certain things to him, opened
up channels if you want. Whereas from the templar's point
of view, to be like you know, generally a high

(08:17):
position in the church and to run a church being
a templar, one of the main rules, like everything has
its rules and layouts, so the hermetic order, you know,
rule number one is that all is mind, universe is mental. Well,
in the templars, one of the rules are and it's
written quite nastily that basically it's forbidden and you will

(08:39):
seek death before you allow yourself to touch another woman
ever again in your life. So for some reason it's
drummed into him to never be allowed to touch women
ever again. And the words that are tied into it
are quite strong, and it's to make a point to
those that join that order, you are now celibate for
the rest of your life from women. But it's written

(09:01):
in that order that if a brother or brethren is
to suffer and struggle with these changes, then they're allowed
to help each other out, and it's forgiven and accepted
if you want so in their eyes, while you see
it so much in the church, it's run under the
same mythology, so their brains know not to touch women,

(09:23):
even though they can go and get married and same
things they can do in life. But it appears to
be that I have that taste of that for boys
because of that purpose. Then there's the DNA memory when
people become a certain character in life. You know, let's
just say, if my life I've become a warrior, and
it's almost like I have a duty to the rest
of my life now, No, I do not fear death,

(09:44):
and I'll always be a warrior till death. If I
was brought by the different family, then I actually might
have become a different person in part of the church,
and I could imagine that sort of path of people.
It's bringing back DNA memory where things like this were
done back then, and it probably wasn't forbidden or frowned
upon as much, but in our times today, of course
it's twisted if you know, need to eradicate it. So

(10:04):
I had to look into the psychology because I did
psychology when I was younger. I had to look into
a psychology of what is going on, and I did
documentaries to prove psychological psychology testing on the brain of
how it works from a general pedophile that we can
seal of any age, or to someone that would be
classes a pedophile but actually might have a very damaged brain,

(10:28):
or a very weak brain, or even a very young
mind even though their body is older, or names for
these sort of disabilities too. So I'll let all of
that put documentaries together about it to explain that actually
there's a very very very very small percent, it's like
less than one percent of the earth that would be
class as a pedophile where actually there might be some

(10:50):
example thirty years old and if they're trying to talk
to a fourteen year old, their brain is of a
fourteen year old. Unfortunately, so to them it's almost like
they're the same age. Now, yes, we know that they
do understand that they're actually older and they know it's
wrong when they're doing it, because we've proved this and testing.
But then I'm not saying it's perceptive, but I get

(11:11):
that their brain is not normal, it's not right, and
it's okay. Rather than me saying to normal put them
all to death, you know, in my sort of ideology,
I'd be like, I'd understand, how can that be helped
or how do we stop it from the future. But
then the massive people that are from public that do it.
You've got the different categorism levels, which is really worrying.
So average public, I find that there's so many people

(11:35):
now which old class has genetically mester gun. Then there
are those that are of the rich and powerful, where
they must have been through marriage, life, they've been through
all these experiences, and they start turning to the six
side of animals, disabled children, and of course unconsented with miners.

(11:56):
The world isn't a massive, massive mess with this situation,
and it is completely like you know, brushed under the
carpet from general mainstream media's general population don't seem to
look into it. It becomes those who are awakened that come
across this sort of rabbit hole that hang on.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
A minute, and yeah, yeah, get people from there.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Well, I wanted to mention somebody. Actually, I mean, I
don't know if you've seen it. The Sound of Freedom,
the movie that came out not a couple of years ago.
Jim Covesl was the guy who was the main lead
in it, and it was about the film where you
went into Columbia as an under cover agent and basically
infiltrated an operation and put together a sting and captured.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
And caught and.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Basically got collared a bunch of human traffickers that were
trafficking children, gathered them all on one island.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
The sting went in. The operation was a massive success.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
They got all of the traffickers and they rescued all
the children that were missing over the years. He's a
massive them in Jim Coveasel, that was the film. Jim
Covezl himself was a massive advocate and a huge Christian
and he's hugely on, you know, into the human trafficking
as in trying to uncover it and bring it to
the attention of the public.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
As again a massive Christian.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
So when we look into this thing being a religious
and there are links to many religions, isn't it when
it comes to the sort of the you know, unconsenting
with miners or playing with miners in that area. Yeah,
there's also so many advocates within the religious fields who
are massively against it as well, so we can't. So
what I'm saying is, I suppose it's it's not fair

(13:30):
to tarnish the entire thing on you know, on a religion.
There are just people within that system who who maybe
are involving themselves where they shouldn't be, are over exploiting
their power. I suppose that's the point of getting to
on that.

Speaker 4 (13:46):
What do you think?

Speaker 1 (13:46):
And it's it's also ended very much a cultural thing,
like I know from example, from the the early Greeks.
The ancient Greeks, they had a very common practice of
pederast which is not the same as pedophilia, even though
it's you know, very often like put in the same category.

(14:08):
But that was kind of a you know, master slash
student relationship between an older gentleman and a younger, younger
boy basically. And since it was you know, Ancient Greek
or you know, old Greek, they were also pretty well
pretty liberal when it come when it came to you know,

(14:31):
sex and sexual relationships, so that you know, that did happen.
So it's like it's both religion and it's it's culture
and Richard, like as you said, you know, religion is
also very much part of a of a culture. I
mean I'm a Germanic pagan myself, and yeah, like that

(14:55):
that definitely is you know, part of the culture of
you know, of the Netherlands of you know, Germany, Scandinavia, UK.
So yeah, it's it's all very interesting how that, you know,
how that links up.

Speaker 6 (15:11):
Yeah, very very deep dark stuff.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Yeah, but what I mean, it's like you said, though,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (15:18):
The laws have sort of come into the twenty first century,
but the religions of in certain aspects remained behind in
areas are certain people was within positions of power.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Certainly feel that way in part potentially if you go.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
Back in history, laws were still there, but in a
different manner. So you know, you go back to the
Mayas and the minds that you want, the incas As texts,
they all had very similar laws, which means, if you
have more than two children and they need to do
their sacrificial rituals to make the weather change tomorrow or
to bring back the crops, then it was the law

(15:53):
to give one of them children and that's I mean,
so they have different types of things hard into them,
sacrificial rich tools were it was strange. I mean we
see it in films of being like it can be
any age, but really you go into the history, it
was always children that was the preferred sort of method.
Go back to you know, the Latin era of Rome,

(16:14):
and that in itself had a very interesting things. So
we know, like you know, there's a big debate on
the earth about the truth about Christmas and what it
really represents. There's an esoteric and then there's the exoteric.
And for those who don't understand the difference between the two,
esoterek is mystical teachings. In general term exoteric is philosophical,

(16:35):
but an the other way of looking at it, esoteric
is for initiating people. Generally, it was it was only
for initiated people in the world, a part of the
occult orders, whereas now the public can look into these things,
and the exoteric is for the general population and public,
and that's the way the knowledge is given out and
kind of sought after. So when we look at these

(16:58):
things that have kind of like the changes we've gone
for really and there was dramatic jumps. But one thing
that's never disappeared is sacrificial rituals on children, and of
course this desire for the peda videos. It's always been
a strange, strange finger in the system, and all well
not all cultures, but a lot of them did carry it.
And I think in the Roman time, this Christmas era

(17:21):
we call like you know, around December every they basically
worshiped Mithra still, which basically came from the Greek era
before it, which basically is the same as the Pagan
it's sun worship. And that winter when it's cold, of
course they worship the sun. So the Pagans would, of
course would burn a yr lug which people see at

(17:42):
Christmas time they get a chocolate yewl lug. They burned that,
which lasts roughly a week. The Pagans would have a
general sex vest, but not involving children in the way
that I'm about to add on to the next Eras
Mithra itself was before the Latin and the Latins being
not the Romans, they took it on and realized because

(18:02):
they were lost they came after in that way, and
they took that idea, and they still worshiped the sun
but in winter they decided to have sex rituals, and
the children that survived the sex ritual that didn't die
during it was given a gift and we'll see you
next year. And that's kind of the rule of fumer
how it worked. Ones that were damaged too much, of course,

(18:24):
they grabbed them by the legs and the ankles and
they find a wall and that's how they ended. And
it was a horrific act and it was a massive,
massive thing. And this is more of course the elites
that we're rulling back then, if they know they don't
deserve that title, but the elites that were rulling back then.
But it was also known within the public, you know.
So it's a very strange time in the world. If
you look at it, is that where the tradition of gift.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Sorry to jump in, and I'm just curious, is that
when the tradition of giving a gift at Christmas to
a child comes from to apologize for the aaut you
go back in, Yeah, if you go back correctly.

Speaker 7 (18:59):
Yes, if you go back correctly, then it's the strongest
point to go from.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (19:03):
Well then and the esoteric will I would argue that
and said, okay, you know the true meaning of Christmas
is when you know it comes from your pinal gland,
the christ consciousness, from the Christos, the oil at one
time a month and comes.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
Down and so on.

Speaker 7 (19:18):
There's different ways of breaking down an es so take understanding.
But the true history of what we give children presents
would come from that. There's other sort of mythologies that
will tie into it. How you know people would take
things from children during a certain time of the year.
And but you know, forget all them that it's not
strong as the one that came from the roment era and.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Yeah, and the twenty fifth of December at least during
Roman times of course, being Saturnalia. You know Saturn wordship
and it is you know, of course believe that you know,
Saturn ties into Satan the adversary and all of that,
which yeah, you know goes goes way back. And I

(20:04):
fucking love that you're bringing up all the esoteric stuff
like that. That is absolutely what I'm what I'm about
and what I do, you know, on my my own show.
And it is like indeed, you know, the crystals oil
like coming down the chimney, which is you know, particular
part in your like in your skull going down the
thirty three vertebrae. Yeah, no, I just want to say

(20:27):
that I fucking love that, and I've I've been you know,
looking looking deeper into the the esoteric size of off
the holidays. Also with Chronos for example, you know, for
the time being related to Santa, and that's why he
can be you know, everywhere, all at once. So this, yeah,

(20:49):
this is all incredibly incredibly ancient. And you know, child
sacrifice of course, going even further back, like you spoke
about Mithros, you know, which comes from Zoroastrianism Persia Asia Minor.
And then if you go you know, of course, like
down to the Levant you get into like the bow

(21:12):
worship and mollot worship, which even in more well let's
say mainstream conspiracy theories is very well known for their
you know, their child sacrifice and all that, and even Sparta,
the Spartans you know, so incredibly obsessed with you know,

(21:34):
being the strongest possible. That now if a child during
birth even like looked somewhat meek, they just I mean
sorry to say this for everyone watching and listening, but
they quite literally just tossed it off a cliff.

Speaker 7 (21:50):
Yeah, And I think mentioned Saturn. Now that's important for
people to understand how this works. Now, I'm not going
to get into the topic of such about what shout
the Earth is because that one can go on forever
with people. I have qualifications in planetary science. So many
years ago, my logo for my show Controversial Subjects Unleast

(22:11):
had a globe on it, and the viewers on what
she's used to be like, it's flat, it's flat, and
I'll be like shut off, all yeah, this at the event,
and I love these debates and that, and then I
went deep into them studies as well, and one thing
least for another. What I like to do is I
take all the ancient cultures and a bit more of
today's sort of options, and I'm understanding science and the
esoteric and the unseen, and I can help people understand

(22:34):
what's best to describe what the whole situation we're living in.
And Saturn is important for this. So in alchemy, you
have seven levels of alchemy. They are described as the
seven metals of alchemy or the seven planets of alchemy.
Lunamar Is Saturn is base. It's the most dense, heavy

(22:58):
plantin out of them all. Is what they class so
that it would be classes base chakra, the seven chakras,
it'd be the base one aka help the heel of
your foot. The sun being the most brightest if you
want or energetic, would obtusly be the highest, you know,
and that's enlightenment. Just why all symbology will have a
halo or a light, a flame between two horns, and

(23:21):
you know, bathroom may and these sort of things. That's
described the highest level pure light, if you want to
call it. So with the religions, at some of the
more modern religions, because we know that the I don't
want to say, I'm not going to say the wrong world.
I'm trying to right, We'll say Judaism. So the Judaism
goes back now we know that Islam, for example, what

(23:45):
do they worship the cube? The kabba is called the cube.
They walk round it seven times. I don't know why
they walk around seven times, but that's what the deal is.
You go to kabba, you walk around it seven times.
What's their god called Alah? Pull it together, Kabbala. The
Kabbala is the Jewish mysticism, and it comes before it.
It's almost as if they were part of the creation.

(24:08):
If you go into look at the word Mohammad from Islam,
well old French from Muhammad means bath from a.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
But if you know that, and also with Buffam Matt,
if you put the Judaic in the cipher to it,
it becomes Sophia, who was the ultimate goddess of wisdom.

Speaker 7 (24:31):
Yeah, there's lots of beautifulings time. And I think when
we look at the the Indian samscripts called the Cali
Juga cycles and whatnot, they're important because they'd break a
thin down to look like a sound wave. So what
do we know as a fact from science or common knowledge?
You have a light spectrum, a sound spectrum, an electromagnet,

(24:53):
electromagnetic spectrum. In the light spectrum, there's seven spectrums. In
the sound spectrum there's seven spectrums, and then the electromagnetic
spectrum there's seven spectrums. Exoterically, up on the Earth, they
want you to believe there's seven continents, but there's not.
But the number seven was important to keep who created

(25:14):
the idea of the planet you lay out. They want
you to believe there's seven oceans upon the Earth, seven seas,
they call it, but there's actually only one ocean that
covers the Earth. The number seven is so important. So
when we try and to look at what's actually happened.
If you lay all of these spectrums on top of
each other and you have a magnet, for example, you

(25:35):
have the red and the blue of a magnet north
and south, and you find the very center point of
that magnet, there is no such thing as north and
south in that moment. That's called the plane of innersia.
When we look at electric we have positive negative Earth.
It's basically knows, you know, it means the three elements

(25:56):
to it. So basically the positive negative gain for what
we're living in. We have the moon negative, the sun positive,
and we are the Earth. When we look at the chacras,
you come up to the fourth one that's heart, which
is the same spelling does earth apart from mixing in
one or two letters numbers, so he letters depends you
doing numology. But anyway, so you look at this lay

(26:18):
out of what's really going on, and the center point
is where we are when we look at the esoterelic
truth about all these things that are going on, the
masculinity on the brain and then the fine side, and
then you're not divine until you balance it out and
you're in the middle. It's all symbology, and so do
you really wally start putting it all together. So when
we say that on the Earth we must have the

(26:39):
most happiest child somewhere, that is very true. But somewhere
else on the Earth, because of polarity and because of
the ind and Yan and the balance spectual balance of
this thing we're living in, there is actually some child
that's going for the most horrific pain and suffering on
the Earth.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
And I think what I try to.

Speaker 7 (26:59):
Explain to people is that, yes, it sounds beautiful patting
this just a perfect earth. It can't exist. Light can't
exist without the dark. But finding a better balance where
everyone comes closer to the middle means that it's more
alike and balanced. Okay, not that we'll ever get everyone
in a perfect line balance and on that point, but
we can get everyone squashed into the ethering. It can
be a better world because it's a bit vastly spread.

(27:20):
At moment, people are doing too well off in my opinion.
They don't understand the laws of suffering and lessons and
pain and that sort of thing. And then the course
vice persons the other side, people are born and they
don't get to experience that. To those who don't understand
or don't believe in, like you know, the reincarnation processes
or whatever, but just think of imagine that if life
was what it was. You're born once, you get one
opportunity and people are given a whether they're given days

(27:44):
to live or months to live or years to live
from birth, and it could be a horrific life. It's
not fair, is it. So that's why I do like
to believe in that. You know that cycle the auraboris
in symbology would represent that a snake or dragon eating
its own tail. My favorite cushion I take everywhere, So
that symbol represents that those people with the lower consciousness

(28:06):
and no one takes offense to that. It means if
you haven't started a path of enlightenment.

Speaker 6 (28:12):
The awareness.

Speaker 7 (28:12):
The word awake isn't exactly a great word, even though
I'll use it every day. Awaken wake people up once
you're awake. But the truth the word wake means something
you do after the death. But as I say, the
word awareness is important as people are becoming aware of
the truth of the earth, ourselves, the pains and horrors
that the world is going through. Then that's when really

(28:35):
they are on that path of enlightenment and there's no
turning back unless you have certain things in your body,
or certain drugs or certain things that happen to you
that can switch it off. Then basically your path has begun.
So even if you did die in this lifetime, sure
of them reaching it your next visit. You're already given
that point by the age of you know, should be
by the age of seven. But we've been trapped in

(28:56):
this world to not be allowed to remember a previous life. Yeah,
and again that would come under what they call the
moon conscious sphere cap But it's a beautiful, bloody matrix
program with living in But yeah, of course, one of
the biggest, most painful topics to look at which destroyed
my life, which was the abuse and the failings upon
the children in this world.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
More fun in general return.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
So I mean, good god, I mean there's so much
there to unpack. I mean we say on every episode, Oh,
I say it in every episode, and I'll say it again.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
One of the things that going down one rabbit hole
allows you to do is see the things in other
topics and connect those dots.

Speaker 4 (29:36):
He constantly connecting the dots.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
And there's a lot of things he said there that
blow my mind, to be honest with you, there's a
lot of interesting things there, and there's a lot of
theories that sort of mesh into other theories as well.

Speaker 4 (29:47):
Do you know what I mean about connecting those dots.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
You know, when you start hearing the same thing a
lot of times from different sources that may not believe
in the full thing, but it's still very very similar,
it allows you to create that create in this big picture.
It doesn't make it makes for an interesting picture for sure.
One of the things he picked up on and I
want to return to it just because I don't.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Want to jump over it.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
You said that the age of seven is when children
should be naturally becoming enlightened. We hear a lot of stories,
and this is something that again Missus is incredibly interested in,
is when you hear children having these incredibly vivid memories
and you know, experience his horrifying experiences, including night terrors

(30:29):
and all sorts, and often a lot of the times
it ends up coming to fruition that they do actually
remember the finer details of some of these memories. They're
coming back as if they were the person that were
living those memories.

Speaker 4 (30:40):
Particularly one case I remember.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Is the World War two pilot that was taken to
a plane where his place crashed. His plane crashed into
the ocean during a battle in somewhere in the Pacific.
When he was you know, he burst out crying and
they got to the spot, and he wasn't prompted to
believe that this is the spot.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
He just burst out crying because the overwhelming emotion got
to him.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
You think that's link it basically is what you're saying
is to whatever to what you were saying about there
the seven chakras, the different paths to enlightenment. You think
that that perhaps those children that I remember in those
memories are very close to that stage of enlightenment. As
to why they're experiencing them is that is that what
you're trying. You're saying that they maybe died just shy

(31:21):
of it in a previous life.

Speaker 7 (31:22):
Yeah, so that that in itself is true, even though
there's something called the whiting. Now this important me to
mention this for all the viewers. I'm not signed into
any order. I'm under no oath on planet Earth to anyone,
but I've been fortunate for many many years to work
alongside the Masonic Orders, Rosicrucianist people that work in the
Golden Dawn, and some of the other esotetic sort of

(31:43):
a cult systems, if you want to call it, and
their allowance with working with me is because I believe
I'm such a good belief my efforts are there for it,
even though I'm not perfect with at all, I stand
in my troop or not signing up to any things,
I'll always be a free man. But my luckily because
of that, I've actually had so many discussions and topics

(32:04):
offline with people that really helped fill the gaps for me,
and so many times they've asked me to join up
to the hidden occurt pillars where I'm not involved with
society or Masonry, and then that way I can learn
the true mysteries as the Cathedrals without them giving the secrets,
because that's their if not to do so. But when
I'm allowed to approach them with my questions of what
I've discovered and what I've come across and what I'd

(32:25):
believed to be true over the time in years, they
are allowed to confirm and then discuss things with me.
So it's been a beautiful journey. Now in regards to
let's just say right now, we know there's like nearly
nine billion people on the planet, and there was a
time at one point on the Earth where they would
have only been allegedly one or two people on the planet.

(32:46):
So the question is what happens to all these other consciousness,
all these other spirits or souls. Not a lot of
people know the differen between a spirit and a soul.
I can break that down too, But what happens to
all of them if they're in this waiting area and
then they come back in technically, by the ways, quickly
fill that gap in the spirit itself is the individual me, you,
everyone who's keep coming back and back, whether you like

(33:08):
it or that, until you reach enlightenment, and then you
get to become your own God and you can create
your own universe in theory, that's the sorcery of it.
Very rarely do they come back, but they do come
back sometimes to become the masters, like in certain religions
Jesus or Muhammad and whatnot. They come back apparently to
bring the message again and so on for the sleepy

(33:29):
masses world. But in regards to your question. Leave the
children in the age of seven, and that memory, that
DNA memory is passed down. But then the actual s
that's for the physical body. The spiritual body is the
important part. We already write the second. Have access to

(33:51):
your previous lives, how many times you've been here. You
can even have a little peep at the future. Whilst
doing all of that. You'd come back out now, providing.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
You had no.

Speaker 7 (34:02):
Drive to do anything with that information, you probably wouldn't.
You'd be left alone, but they would know. So if
someone like me tapping into the a key ship record
or tapping into certain you know, into the gates, we'll
call it. Because there's over ten million Masons worldwide right now,
you've got over one hundred thousand Masons that are sitting
there with their eyes closed, and they are in the

(34:24):
astral plane guarding the plane. And if any of us
try to access it without being signed into the orders
or temples, you're getting knocked out, and then eventually you
get arrested for mysticism. If you keep tapping with the doors,
they'll lay something in place in the physical plane, so
you are done. It's a very very deep game. Now
what happens is from a matrix explanation point of view.

(34:47):
If all of us remembered now our previous lives, why
we're here, and what's going to happen in the future,
then the experience becomes different. The whole layout changes. So
those of us that wake up like we are for
years and years running around trying to wake everyone up
in the world and disturbing bubbles on a mass scale,
popping bubbles all day, every day, that that's my game.

(35:10):
And then I've realized how many people are broken after
one years, and as I've realized how many lawyers I've
destroyed because these people now are not living comfortably. These
people can't go back to sleep they were happy before.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
So we put it to you because she has a balance.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Oh sorry, yeah, exactly on that point you mentioned obviously,
the consciousness of people and becoming awakened. There's a lot
of rumor in the world at the minute, and this
is just a fleeting visit to this will return exactly
where we were a second ago, because where I think.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Where we're going is incredibly interested.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
But there are people and whispers in the world that
this three eye at list thing approaching is some kind
of Nhi beacon with a purpose is in to raise
or elevate human consciousness to essentially achieve those awakenings.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
What do you think of all this? I mean, what
do you think of that? Just quickly, just the thought
that maybe the people saying that, what do you think?

Speaker 7 (36:04):
Yeah, from a planetary science point of view, which I'm
allowed to add this in and their science academic world
would never be able to question me if they've actually
done their studies and their higher level. This is understanding
the macro and the micro. So we all have a
pinal grand right now in space. That word space will
upset a lot of people if they're watching it, because

(36:25):
they might see the idea of the furnament. So we'll
say space in my term now represents the furnament. We'll
call it that the layer of the stars, and what's
above up there in the layer of stars and what's
above the furnament or space. We have also what they
generally call the eye, which is basically like a pinal
grand as well. It's a nebula, it's exploding, it's going massive,

(36:46):
and that is directly in space from a different point,
which would represent what our two eyes would look like
and so on, and it's almost like a macro and
micross in space. Light in itself is expanding and growing
as we speak, and a massive rapid scale. That's how
the greats new back then that the quadu of Aquarius
was when astrologically these things happen. So therefore, up on

(37:09):
the Earth, three or four major waves come through of
light that have They can't stop it in theory, apart
from covering our skis and a cloud seed, and by
doing certain things to the humans to break their conscious
levels and pinal gland calcification through fluoridation and things like that,
which is real by the way it's happening all over

(37:30):
the Earth. This was put in place a long time
ago after World War Two because they knew they were
against the clock. And if these things didn't happen to us,
then right now in the whole world, people wouldn't be
going to fast food restaurants. They wouldn't be doing anything
apart from making sure their water's clean. They wouldn't be
having any pharmaceutical industry whatsoever, apart from surgeries for made
of the odd thing. There would be south healing people

(37:51):
upon the earth already that could help others and touch
each other and through sounds that you can make from
your own mouth. You'd be able to start hearing people's
body parts. But that's what's been removed from it, because
that's their power. They're the knowledge, the sacred knowledge keepers.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
And do you think it was taken away?

Speaker 3 (38:09):
You know the Sumerian times, they say, obviously a lot
of it'd be before the eleven eight hundred years ago,
the mud slides and the mud flowers that apparently destroyed
these civilizations. With this knowledge that you'd just spoken of there,
do you put anything to that?

Speaker 6 (38:25):
Yea, the mud floods weren't twelve thousand years ago? What
that was?

Speaker 5 (38:30):
Wow?

Speaker 7 (38:31):
The Younger Doys period, Yeah, the Younger Drys period when
the northern hemisphere comet. So that was the floods, the
Great Floods of Atlantis. When it says Atlantis submerged into
water and song, it basically means the sea levels rose.

Speaker 6 (38:45):
And we can prove that.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
And we know that because all across the planet where
they did ancient buildings like gbecle tepe, which in Turkish
meanstone on a hill, or you've got the Great Pyramids
and stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (38:57):
I'll take you to a catheedia.

Speaker 7 (38:58):
I've got a video on my phone here I found
it's in one of my old ancient videos where I'll
go into a cathedral and it's eight hundred year old
stained glass. Halfway down it you see the great Pyramids.
You see people running and there's a big wave coming
over it. That's because it was made and they knew
the story hundreds of years ago, and that the pyramids
are older than four or five thousand years old or six.
They're twelve thousand years old, and they were around enough

(39:21):
time of the Great Flood. You go to France and
one of the most expensive doors and planet Earth is
made of gold, and that in itself is in front
and towards the top of the story, it shows you
a great pyramid and all the animals going into the arc. Symology,
what this is telling us is they knew something was
coming before it came, thousands of years ago, and that

(39:42):
created this tidal wave around the Earth and the sea
levels rosen.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
I'm not saying there.

Speaker 7 (39:46):
Weren't the odd mudflood with that, of course it would
have been, but that was the catastrophe they knew. Of
the main mudfloods being a couple hundred years ago is
because the Tartarian Empire were messing with sound technologies around
the earth, which eventually got into the wrong hands and
a little bit it's too excited, and they ended up,
you know, messing with theirth to a point where everything
went a bit soft and becausand can do that to

(40:06):
solids that can turn it change its shape altogether, it
can change. It's the frequency grip of itself. It's autonomy
the two different timelines. But between that what happened is
of the Babylonian Sumerian era. You have what we know
is now is the Irish So where Island is the
left hand side of island, you've got Atlantic Ocean. Take

(40:28):
away all the water between England and Ireland and France
where were called Doggland. Doggoland was Marshland as they call it.
They recognize it as a big area that is basically
the Atlantic Atlantis.

Speaker 6 (40:40):
That's what we were. So that's what they're.

Speaker 7 (40:42):
Telling us the story now the tribes that live there
that were the fifth root race that were born upon
the earth. Because we have five blood types today whereas
in the beginning it would have been one. So evidently
it's sharing this to five rout rates root races. In
genesis of the Bible genesis will represent the genetics of man,
the seven genetics or the seven generations.

Speaker 6 (41:04):
To come of man. So we're the fifth.

Speaker 7 (41:07):
Now we're about to see the sixth in our time
because we're that transition, and then another couple of thousand
years will then be classed as at Lamanteans. Again, the
human experienced consciousness, so thousands of years ago, around six
seven thousand years ago, if you want to call it that.
One of the sons of Ireland, the god of Ireland,

(41:28):
was called Aton. In Egypt also recognizes Aton, which was On.
So the word Solomon so is Anglo Saxons for son.
On is the Egyptian word Indian word for sun, and
then On is the Egyptian word for sun. Solomon represented
the sun and the energy of it. The son of

(41:51):
one of the sons from Ireland came across to the south,
being Egypt in the Middle East, if you one, because
they were doing work out there, and his name was Heber.
He turned against his tribes because he had a powerful army,
if you want. And that's where the languages of Hebrew
and all this began. That's where all the families that
run the world that we're here to replenish it. After

(42:13):
the Great Flood, a couple of them turned against the
others and tried to take over the world and said,
we want to make a slave race. That worked for us,
while should we keep saving everyone and replenishing the earth.
We're stopping the program, turned against their duty to the wild,
and then that's when the Middle East became. As we
get told today in the curriculum, it's the cradle of civilization,

(42:35):
but it weren't. That was the reset. That's when slavery began.
That's when the laws were made for humanity and taxes
were made and we'll cut off your noses and your
faces so you know you're a slave to the tribe.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
And that's when the whole world changed.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
So that's when we call it Babylon, the beginning of Babylon,
and the Beast, if you want to call it, the
system of all lived under. Ever, since that's what I
say my videos, it's our time now to make this
change on this world. Because if we don't mean mams,
we just could go with the program. Because this is
how I say it. We've got this time now to
change it. How do you feel that it isn't our time?

Speaker 6 (43:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:14):
I was going to say, moving on to that, you say,
I mean we just mentioned the three I aut listing
and this mass awakening, and you've just mentioned there that
you think we're going to experience the six away are
the sixth? Well did you say the sixth step in
at the six park. Yeah, so you've been moving into that.
So do you think you said we're going to see

(43:35):
that in our lifetime?

Speaker 4 (43:36):
What do you think that is?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (43:37):
What do you think shape that comes in?

Speaker 7 (43:39):
So you witness it as you speak now, just to
put something right in the academic world, which again can
be proven now. So I did this years ago. The
Mind Calendar never said nothing about the world will end
in twenty twelve. What it showed you was, though, is
at the end of the age before the next age,
which we call generally in the world Aquarius, the age

(43:59):
of Aqua. What they knew is like all the other cultures,
even Christianity knows it. And I'll tell you about that.
I can tell you about Islam. I tell you that
all of them know the same thing. And at the
moment we're going through it, the Miyan's actually written in
twenty twenty one will be the end of the age.
We'll look like the world in twenty twenty.

Speaker 6 (44:17):
It was shut down.

Speaker 7 (44:18):
You can't write it cut down over a bloody alleged
flu which we now know wh what we were told.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
And nobody's believed anything since.

Speaker 7 (44:25):
That ties in exactly it tis in perfectly. This awakening
was real. But they had a very quick moment to
try and shove all that into people's arms, into people's bodies,
because they know eventually it shuts down that pinal gland
expansion for people to just wake up naturally. We're having
to put the extra work in now to help that
happen to people. The sick epoch is what is called

(44:46):
an anthiposophy. Epoch's important word for it. If you go
to the Christian Bible, it's called an eon. And they
said to Jesus in the Bible, when will we know
it's at the end of your eon? And Jesus replies,
the under my ear, a man will be bearing water,
Aquarius the water bearer. You know, every culture carries the

(45:06):
same story, but with different words for different characters. The
Bible itself tells people do not tag this book literally.
It is an allegory. The word allegory means made up
fictional characters and places. So you're going to have you
understand the astrological and importance of what we're living in.
We're living in one massive, humongous clock, and the Earth

(45:26):
in itself is the center of it all.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
That's that's astro theology, right.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
I've had a a student of Santos Bernacci on my
my own Michael he Is, he's one of his on,
one of his students and really took it into you know,
like to astro theology and ran with it and made
his own you know like presentations and wrote books and

(45:56):
everything about it. And I I, you know, I I
absolutely have to agree with you. God, this is right
up my alley. I could do this on my own show.
It is like I'm on my own show because I
talk about this ship all the time. But I absolutely
believe that you are right. And I like, uh, you know,
conversations with so many people who really like their massive

(46:20):
awakening was you know, the you know twenty twenty one,
like that was their their mass awakening. And honestly, I
think that maybe the well, the ruling elites, you know,

(46:42):
they didn't count on it like happening so fast, and
that's why they're now you know, going balls of the wall.
You know, let's say, like they're just throwing every fucking
thing that they can against us, because you know, if
they if they can't stop it, then at least they're
you know, going to take as many of us down
with them as possible.

Speaker 4 (47:02):
But what's I don't understand. I mean, we're just trying
to enlighten me.

Speaker 3 (47:05):
I mean we say that they awakening and about the
enlargement of the pen gland, and they're doing everything they
can to stop that. But what's the next step? I mean,
what are we looking for? What are we waiting for?
Because I said that a lot of the people are
saying that the second coming of Christ on the horizon,
it's coming to Chris bled Cell from the UK, Yeah,
please go ahead.

Speaker 6 (47:26):
I'm trying to say for the people that are listening to.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
What's another It's another way of enlightenment. The crystals oil.
It's not like literally, you know, Christ coming down from
the sky and be like, you know, I'm back, bitches.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Sure, because a new knowledge is going to be bestowed
upon mankind. When the regular star is a bove the
sphinx and it glows red, that's what has been said
from Chris Bledsoe. He didn't say that Chris christ is coming.
He says that a new knowledge will fall upon mankind,
and that's predicted in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
It is already. So what do you believe about that?
I mean, that's the regular store.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Right, that's happening already. Otherwise we won't be talking about it.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
It's happening.

Speaker 7 (48:07):
So in regards to the Pacific star going above the pyramids,
I mean every age it will happen. The matter work
because it's part of the clock. It will never ever change.
It never hasn't, never will. So layout that we see
will always be on a pacific. And so there's a
humongous version, which is what the Indians called it. They
break it down into the cali yuga, ruper yuga, dwappy

(48:28):
yuga cycles. Here on the western world we'll call it
Aquarius policies. We just come out the age of the
policies now, which is why the pope's head hat is
a fish mouth, which is why Jesus is a fisherman.
That's the age of post seas. We're now entering the
age of the queris the water, which means a man's
tipping water out. The water is not being sipped through

(48:48):
the fish anymore of the system and then giving us
what they want. It is now being poured out and
those who choose to see and to drink from it,
and that's to them above. But what's really going to
happen on this physical plane that can't be hidden from
comes from two deliveries. First delivery, the awakening is real,

(49:09):
and even people that are comfortable in their normal way
of life are probably starting to feel uncomfortable in their
normal way of life and they don't even know why,
never to do the news and what's happening outside. They
might just not feel right anymore. Is because that isn't
a real life. They have no spiritual connection and have
no understanding where they come from, where they're going and whatnot.
And that's not healthy for the mind. So that's where

(49:29):
they're starting to be break down. That's a version of
those yeah that run the world that realize this is happening,
and in their best interest is to depopulate as quickly
as possible to the smallest number that they can control
without losing control in that process.

Speaker 6 (49:49):
That's their game.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
Now.

Speaker 7 (49:51):
A lot of the things they put in place to
do that are still in place happening. A lot of
the things they put in place to work alongside the
things they've put in place not working to their original setup.
And that's the divine clicking in. Now this is like
the good side. Almost things are going wrong for them,
but the depopulation is real, and they've already put that

(50:11):
in place where you know, I expect over the next
ten years, rather than seeing the increase of the population
in the earth, we're already starting to see it flattening
out and then it'll.

Speaker 6 (50:20):
Start to decrease. So they add that.

Speaker 7 (50:22):
In mind, and of course it's running along the side
by side. You know, they never never want their families
to become getting their hands dirty and going to work.
They want to be able to live off the riches
of all the you know, the working class in the world.
So when they crumbling symbolically, people would say twenty thirty
one that in a prophecy would be clussed as wormwood.
And the reason why I say twenty thirty one is

(50:44):
because in regards to they set their self alot of
the twenty twenty to twenty thirty agenda and it's not
already going to plan. So within a year after twenty thirty,
we're already having seen some major k us on the earth. Unfortunately,
but those that are awakened, if they don't see it
so horrific and trying and see it as you know,

(51:07):
this is the final shakings of you know, the creation
before we actually get to really set our feet into
the new way of life, you know, after that. But
you've got to go through a bit more rough yet.
And rightfully so, do you know why five years ago
I wouldn't say what I'm about to say to you know,
and I want to say it because I'm in a
position where forgive them father that.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
They do not know. I appreciate all of that.

Speaker 7 (51:28):
But you know what, when you're dealing with generally the
sleeping masses or generally the general population people, it's painful.
It is painful because they look at this we're absolute
nuts and where we're a problem and this, that and
the other, and when really we're screaming hope, we're screaming
help to them, We're trying to do all these bring
these changes and show what's going on, and they look
at this lot with freaking nuts.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
So there is a.

Speaker 7 (51:50):
One way to go for the general population which is
why when I was dealing with a grand master in
twenty twenty one of one of my local lodges, he
agreed on a debate with me that I wouldn't release
certain things that I had discovered to the public at
that time, and I got to ask questions, and my

(52:10):
questions weren't about the epoch changes and what happens to
the Masons, because a lot of them are having that
and they don't know what's you know, I mean, that
doesn't make sense to me. And what he confirmed is
it's because it wasn't done in that manner to them
those that I've had it in the Order is because
they are just societal and they're not actually interested in
esoteric and them theirselves are like the public that they're

(52:32):
living the monst So what he said was, during these changes,
when the world gets to its very peak of armageddon,
we'll call it, some of them will click and wake
up and then quickly flip to the other side, the
side of light and the side of good and realizing
that's where they should have been to start with. But
you know, that's the way I explained it to me,

(52:54):
that it wasn't like those in the Order are given
the special key and they're all told what's getting there.
I was absolutely blown away by it.

Speaker 6 (53:01):
So it's high rank.

Speaker 7 (53:03):
It seems almost been like it seems to have been
like a program upon the earth where if you're awake
or was awaken during them times or before that. Of course,
the general media and the general government label us as
conspiracy theorist, anti vaxors and all this other crazy stuff.
And really with just critical thinkers, we have the capability
which is called intelligence, which means we are able to

(53:24):
question anything and everything. People that go and get a
degree in any category, they have to be good at
the gurd to take the answers in order to get
that degree. That's like in the Masonic Order levels. Once
you understand your rituals and your processes, you're allowed to
move up a degree. You know, it's all similarly the same.
I don't want no degree. I'm like a degree destroyer.

(53:47):
A lot to sit with people that've got degrees and
really break them down to them realizing that they've missed
the whole life of what they could have been and
it's a whole new world then.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
So it's interesting people with the lower education.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
I suppose on paper that have always got the most
critical minds, and I've got the ability to really dig
deep and ask those questions and search out the answers.
So always the people that never did well with the
tax system that they put in place, right, people that
they shunned and got rid of. Well, one thing you
mentioned because they go aheadside.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
I mean I'd say that's because they you know, they
struggle most and they have, you know, the most benefits
in finding those answers. Like if you're living a you know,
if you're living a cushy life, if you grew up
i know, like a banker's son or whatever, if you
grew up in a millionaire, billionaire fucking family, Like, what

(54:41):
what reason do you have? What what use is it
to you to now find those answers? Now, it doesn't matter,
Like I'm living a cushy life. I got you know,
I got millions in the bank ready, My family is
agreeably fucking wealthy, Like I have a good life. I
have no need for that information. It is us, well,

(55:02):
blue collar people people, And that's.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
Perception is the most important word.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 7 (55:14):
Exception is, as we can point improve, someone with the
most money in the world might be the richest person
or richest category, yeah, not actually completely happy. And then
someone with nothing can find happiness playing with a bloody
tree branch for example, exactly.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
And I think they.

Speaker 7 (55:32):
Could be that literally when I say happiest, their vibrational
frequency of the body, it's like you, I mean, it
is literally as provable as happiness. Yeah, And someone who
thinks they're happy because they've got money actually might sit
there and they're living in a sad state of mind,
which is an illness, which is a disease, disease to
the body.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
And I think, like blue collar like we can even
like kind of tie that back into the matrix even
the movie if you want, because I believe it was
in the original story that Neo took the blue pill,
which makes a lot more sense because red, you know,
you were talking about the the chakras. Red is you know,
the the lowest of chakra. It's the you know, the

(56:13):
the animalistic base instinct. For so for someone to you know,
want to gain that that higher knowledge, higher awareness, it
wouldn't make sense to take you know, the red pill.
And that's I guess what you know. Also see and uh,
you know, the the red pill circles and and you

(56:35):
know all of that, it's you know, it's all you know,
bro science, and it's about well money and host basically
with you know, some truth sprinkled in too to keep
them coming and to like kind of try and tie
it back into the kids thing. I gotta I got

(57:00):
a question. I'm curious as to what you whould think
of this the reason why or would be the reason
why so many of those who do it consciously, let's say,
what they unfortunately do to the children. Would that also
be in an effort to, let's say, destroy the next

(57:24):
generation so that you know, they can possibly wake up,
because you know, we are kind of a kind of
like a new enlightened generation, if you will. And we
are I mean, I can of course only speak for myself,
for my wife and myself. We are teaching our children

(57:46):
that we are teaching them, no not you know at
least that you know there is more and it is
kind of a spiritual upbringing still you know, own own choice.
You know, they still have freedom of choice, of course,
but you know it is a more spiritual upbringing. And
I do believe that you know, our our I absolutely

(58:06):
agree with that, you know, either our children or our
children's children are you know, there's gonna be maybe the
final one awakening or like they're going to really break
break everything twenty thirty one. That would about line up
with that. So what what I'm trying to say is like,

(58:27):
would all be in an effort to destroy the generation
that they know is gonna you know, destroy them.

Speaker 6 (58:39):
Let's say, yeah, in a multi category way.

Speaker 7 (58:44):
So if they can't get to them through that sort
of layout of injecting things intair bodies, they're getting to them,
you know, through the food, the air poisoning, through the schooling.
The word school in Hebrew, which is backwards, means mental
abuse of a child.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
Yeah, that's that's definitely how in school.

Speaker 7 (59:02):
Yeah, I mean you look at these things and really,
I mean schools are two titles for schools either aid
in doctrination camps or be the daycare. Because if there
was to treat teach children properly about the world, then
the would spend a lot more time in nature rather
than sitting in a square room at a table and
the way it's not really a comfortable lifestyle for a child.

Speaker 6 (59:23):
It's not fair.

Speaker 7 (59:24):
Let's just say, if there was to teach them the truth,
they would be out in nature. They would be teaching
them no religions at all, just spirituality, which means you
have your version of yourself and then the higher version
of yourself, a better vision of yourself you can always
aim for that. Teach them the truth about how to
survive with money, really, rather than the higher educated students
going through business classes and stuff like that. It's just

(59:45):
more there's a lot of things that could change that
could make that better, but.

Speaker 6 (59:48):
All designed.

Speaker 7 (59:51):
By a specific group in the world that control the
medical industry. They control their curriculum industry across the world,
the defense systems of all the countries are all tied together.
Out they work, and they have literally almost landed checkmate
on the world and it wouldn't look like a nice
place after.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
So the people running this we're talking about there, are
we saying that, like the World Economic Forum, the World
Health Organization, are they the tip of the spear or
are they again puppets themselves? And coming back to what
you said before about this awakening, do you think all
of the unrest that's happening throughout the West there's essentially
been buoyed on by Trump the way that he's sort
of slammed us. The doors shut on a lot of

(01:00:30):
the things that could potentially be sort of construed as negative,
you know, the war career and all that stuff, and
the way that the UK is following suit the unrest
now we're seeing with the flags and the patriotism and
people just not following and stepping into the into the
into the into the lines anymore as they happen in
previous years.

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
Do you think that's part of that awakening phase?

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
And I've asked your two questions out if you can
remember the first one, what do you think of those two?

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
If I put them to you.

Speaker 7 (01:00:56):
I think I would say that in regards to what
it could lead to. So they're masterminds, the ones that
I'm running the show on master minds, and then they
pay in higher thousands of other masterminds that are dedicated
to them because they've been birthed into teachings and secret schools.

Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
Whatever you would like to call them.

Speaker 7 (01:01:21):
They're not really called schools, but their children, like politicians,
are born into very rich places and whatnot, and they're
bred to become something. So all of the people we
see as willed powers, whether it's like the Facebook owner
and all these people. They were designed by their parents
to become who they are and it was guided. So
I kind of see that when we look at that question,

(01:01:43):
it's like they really have landed a Mastermind scenario on
us all where there's no escape in that they infiltrated
every single category of structure upon the earth. And it
took them a long time to get there, because there
was times where people sparted what was going on and
tried to make these changes throughout history, especially World War two.

(01:02:05):
You know, Pacific characters sparted what he seemed to be true.
But then you know hit that is frowned upon by
the general population. But you go to India and they
would literally give their life for him when they weren't
from India. Was he What do they know that you don't,
because they're very intelligent cultures out there that know a
lot of stuff. What did Hitler bin to the earth
when he came into power? The very first law he

(01:02:27):
brought in that no banker or no bank ever is
allowed to make interest on any man ever again, because
he knew that that's how they made and destroyed countries,
the bankers by getting in their interest interest and then
they own your country.

Speaker 6 (01:02:42):
So he removed that.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
The second law he brought out was at all gay clubs,
because Germany was the gay capital of the Earth. All
gay clubs are to be shot immediately and to turned
into free libraries or home places. Were homeless and gay
bogs and all the gay things are to be evdicated.
Not because people weren't allowed to be gay, it's because
he didn't want it being pumped into children's faces. Yeah,

(01:03:06):
the perspective wise, I stand by that I thought the
bloody good things what he did. We get told myths
and stories about a lot of other things that I
won't go into it now because we're not about all
of that. I just see how the stories we've been
led to believe in our life would make it difficult
for me to know and see what I see coming
and how to change it. Whereas I'm not quite settled

(01:03:28):
starting mind knowing that the deliberance of it is actually
at a point where it should become more and more
blatant to the average man to start decoding all this
now and understanding it. So there's no straight answer for
your question, but it's a bit of a you know, so.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
This is just part of the process. But what do
you see coming. While you've mentioned that teaser there, what
do you see coming?

Speaker 7 (01:03:52):
Okay, So the path and one and two, which is
the back end of what I was trying to say, really,
but back end of one and two would be this
because their masterminds and their and out every outcome if
it goes into civil unrest and everyone turns into mass righting,
the obviously the idea would be is if we were
mass writing as public across the world against the system.
Brilliant because even those in the system then, like the

(01:04:15):
armies and the police forces, will start to eventually change
and realize that they should be with us as well,
and that's where it could really start to make a difference.
But the unfortunate mess will be more likely mass writing
against culture, religion versus religion, culture versus culture, and looting.
And that's that's the collapse we don't want, because that's
when they come in and they're still at their full

(01:04:37):
force and they have the reasons to turn around to
their armies and the people that work for them, look
at what's going on.

Speaker 6 (01:04:43):
But when all the people are coming at them.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
Those that are in it are meant to be proud
for working for their government and army will belong while
are the people attacking us? And then they start to
question what the government's done wrong, and then they realize
that they're part of the bad side and they turn
to the good. It's a horrific thing. But even why
they've got it under control, they know what doing. I
would like to say that it feels like the West
has had its which.

Speaker 6 (01:05:06):
We know is true.

Speaker 7 (01:05:07):
There isn't really a civilization on planet Earth that lasted
more than a couple hundred and fifty years. Well, Britain,
if you want to see it as a superpower as well,
out due it's time will passed you. And look at
the wheel today that is basically run under the monarchy, empire,

(01:05:28):
the police and systems of an absolute joke. It's a
crime against humanity what they do to us. When there
was a time on the Earth where the Jews, Muslims, Christians,
everyone on the Earth and all of the esoteric Masonic
organizations and planet Earth had an agreement and they all
agreed and it stuck with Earth forever, and they called

(01:05:49):
it common universal law, which means wherever you go on
this planet, you do not cause loss, harm, or damage
or break of a moral contract.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
And if you do, you are to be put it right.

Speaker 7 (01:06:01):
Then the babble earning system decided, well, there, we're going
a bit too fast down that road, so we're going
to charge them and give them points and moneymaking became,
you know, a corporation for the dead entities and whatnot,
and it's a very sick thing that's been done to us.
So the true battle on this earth about light and
dark should be every human being, regardless to what color

(01:06:23):
you are, regardless to what your culture is or where
you're born. I don't care what your ideas are and
all this sort of stuff. If it's you against any
other public, you're in the wrong program. It should be
every human being on the earth that is not into
the system versus the system, because that's what's broken, that's
what's turning us against each other. I want to say

(01:06:44):
this system, I do mean the religious communities, the religious powers.
I'm on about, the monarchers of the earth, and you know,
the government. All of that in theself is the beast,
and they're the ones that entrap humanity. And they makers
think that we can't survive without a system.

Speaker 6 (01:07:03):
Yes we can.

Speaker 7 (01:07:04):
We can't survive without police, Yes we can. Because at hey,
So now if someone does something wrong, look touches a
child and the police turn up their door, they're going
to go and get slapped on the wrist, and they're
gonna go and put on the little vegetor and they're
going to get put back out there in society around children.
But if we had no police and it was the
people of each town that went insorted the problem, well
you get a loaded men turn up at that door

(01:07:25):
to go and sort out the person who's out a child.

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
Problem solved.

Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
There is no paperwork, there is no aftermath. It's job done, goodbye,
next and that fear will be put into them across
the world and they would stop immediately the ones that
got the message. And that's the way I see it.
So people that worry about having no system, there will
always be a structure in place. Hierarchy is not necessary
because a true hierarchy that works in a tribe, and

(01:07:51):
this would be my sort of wheel. Tribe means if
I've become a leader for the people, I lose my shoes,
i lose my clothes, I'll have a bit of wrap
to put over my body and I'll never own anything
ever again in my life. Because that's what the true
tribes and the world did and still do today. Those
that are tribal people, they still do it today. Those
that are leaders have nothing. They're not allowed privileges and
not allowed fun because they had a decision making for

(01:08:14):
that community. They're the oldest, the ones that I've had
there fo and then they get to be that position
and then make it stay smoothing well and good, so
they lose all of their assets, whereas we have wills,
where the more assets you have, the more likely you
are being in a position of power. It's backwards and
it's wrong, and that's why it's broken, and it will
never be good for the wild unless we do stand

(01:08:36):
together united against the beast.

Speaker 6 (01:08:39):
The system.

Speaker 7 (01:08:40):
Now, the system has a choice because when it comes
crumbling down from and the people do turn and they
get that knowledge and it becomes that thing where it
does start to flick. The best thing they can do
is is clear up the mess before we get there,
and that's by actually really starting to bring the things
out that make people happy again, make people feel that
they're fairly treated. Know, stop trying to destroy us with

(01:09:01):
the pharmaceutical industries, and teach us that our happiness and
our brain will make us more healed than any medicine
for whatever issue you've got. These are the things that
they know to be true. And it's not that it's
been lost, it's just hidden.

Speaker 3 (01:09:17):
So when you say you're a freeman, now, I've looked
into this before and there's certain sort of things that free.

Speaker 4 (01:09:24):
Man a free man.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
So that means somebody that goes by common lawn is
not maritime law and doesn't buy into the system.

Speaker 6 (01:09:31):
So I know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:32):
People that don't pay council tax based upon that kind
of thing, don't pay bills or don't you know, they're
just basically off grid that claimed to be free men
on the land. That is that the category if you
follow to yourself, are you still sort of plugged into.

Speaker 7 (01:09:47):
The So what it is? It's a terminology game there.
So those that use the word freemen in their name,
they're touching on a touchy subject that could be pulled
against them because the thirteen families that would allegedly rule
the world, if you want to call it that back
in the day, one of which was alleged called Freeman's.
When we look at the word free masons, well, the

(01:10:09):
word masonry means stone, doesn't it stone worker, That in
itself isn't quite true for the term. When you go
through the initiation of free masonry, you become a free
living man, because before you become initiated, you're classed as
a person in society, a dead entity, you know, like

(01:10:30):
we all are in this, in this corporation. But then
you become a free living man, recognized as a living man.
Another word would be sovereign if you want. But these
words and etymology will also lead you to realize that
the best way of describing yourself is that for me
saying earlier, I'm tied into no colt on the earth.

(01:10:50):
I have no oath to anythink up on the earth,
whereas all of these things require an oath, and I'm
a free man walking the land on the earth wherever
I want to go. In the mason or order, they
call that a traveler. So you call a traveler from
east to west. So from a free mason stood in
a court room talking to a judge, and he tries

(01:11:10):
to give them the hint that he's also a free mason.
You say, I travel from east to west, or something
that along the lines that no one else in the
room would understand, and it's all word use in terminology.
So for me, I'm just free, free spirit man, free
being that can do as and what I want upon
this plane and that's it. No one, I'm not tied

(01:11:30):
to anyone. I do not have a God. Because people
that think the word God is a very important word.
By the way, I need to go to a back
to the time called dog Latin dog backwards as God.
It's an important thing about that and how that all
works to break down the truth of what God is.
I've made some documentaries and videos people can watch which
are very good and they have some very very irrefutable

(01:11:56):
drops throughout them to help people understand all of this.
I hate so for those I quitly watching olders throw
that in there. God is described in a Christian output
as being the creator, the architect if you want, that
sits above the furnament watching down on us.

Speaker 6 (01:12:14):
All.

Speaker 7 (01:12:15):
Okay, there's one description Islam. The Muslims believe their god
Allah all law is a spark of light. It has
no image. Well, it has no image, so not a
lot of people know that that Allah is not a description.
It is a spark of light. Well, that, my friend,
is a bit closer to the truth compared to Christianity.

(01:12:38):
Buddha explains God as being the place of a nirvana.
So that represents that when man goes through the seven
steps of Gautama Budda's birth, that means man is what
we are today. We go through the seven chakras and
reach to enlightenment, you become Buddha. You are the place
of nothingness. So in Christianity, Jesus taught people and those

(01:13:02):
who see Jesus as a real character, carry on, that's fine.
Other people see it as the sunlight in the sky.
That's fine too. But here's the truth, the story that's
written about it, the metaphor, the allegory storic that you
need to know about is that he even said that
when you stop using the eyes and you stuck the thoughts,
then you'll meet God. When you go on to search
for God, you'll find yourself. When you're go on to

(01:13:24):
search for yourself, you'll find God. So God itself is
the pinal gland. It's the master brain, part of the whole.

Speaker 6 (01:13:31):
Program we're living in.

Speaker 7 (01:13:33):
And when you go through a lot of the cultures
who actually realize they're all saying the same thing. They
recognize that the pinal gland the Egyptians, the eye of
Horace or the eye of Rah is the same image
but mirrored, and that in itself represents a the sun
which is all light or b the pinal gland, because
that's what it is, sliced in half. It's very cleverly done.

(01:13:57):
So throughout the ages I knew the truth. God is
your brain connection, it's the pinal gland. There isn't an
outside source sitting there which is watching over us doing
its thing. And so that's that's how I like to
write the truth. Done that, and there's so much to
back it up. This stuff is mostly found in the
esotelic wield, which is hidden from the masses for a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
It is occult it yeah, and those those like That's
all also goes back to the the basic, very basic
hermatic principles of course, that is within as it is,
as you know, without that which is above, as is below.
I recently visited the Embassy of the Free Mind in

(01:14:42):
in Amsterdam. It's incredibly beautiful hermatic occult museum. Everyone's who
is into that?

Speaker 6 (01:14:53):
Ricommend Did you go to the Richmond Library? No?

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
No, No, firstly, no, personally not not. They do have
a major, major library upstairs with everything you know, her meticism, rosenkoids, rescrutions, alchemy.
I've had at least two different alchemists on my own show. Well,

(01:15:24):
the Embassy of the Free Mind in Amsterdam is incredible.
If you if you love this, love this kind of stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:15:31):
It's beautiful and that is true.

Speaker 7 (01:15:32):
These things are available for the public now, which is batter,
which is why people can go and start to This
is part of the awakening in the world. It's part
of the truth that these things are available. In the
Jewish community, they had a secret for thousands of years
which they've kept. For example, add on me, which is
Adam in the beginning, if you want to call it,
was created at the age of forty to come into
the garden of Eden to name all the animals and plants.

Speaker 6 (01:15:54):
Now in their.

Speaker 7 (01:15:55):
Culture, they don't like certain things being taught to others
until they've the edge of they'll go to the woods
and teach them special rituals and special things. That in
itself was broken in twenty fifteen because it became to
that time on the earth to do so. And he
put all these things together, and it's a magical, magical time,
and it's almost like for people to go about their
normal day lives, what we would have known as normal

(01:16:17):
six years ago. It's almost like it's catching up with
you one or another. People are going to get the
shock to wake up to one thing or another and
it's a beautiful, beautiful time for that. But again it
is it's going to be painful because that's how humans
progress and learn.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
But in them.

Speaker 7 (01:16:34):
Back in Saint ater Dam, there's a place called the
Ritman Library. If you've not heard of it. What that
guy has done is amazing. He's got all the most
important esotelic books from around the world, and even the
most sacred of all these books that I've made have
never left the Pacific Museum have now gone to him
because of what he's done. He's like the living day

(01:16:54):
version of Alexander the Great by getting all these arts.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
That's the new library a Villageandria. Basically, what was it, God,
did you.

Speaker 6 (01:17:03):
Say ritr it t anything? Ritman or Ritman? Ritman?

Speaker 7 (01:17:08):
I think Ritman Library, Holland, Uh yeah, so be Holland
on Amsterdam. Obviously we know about the Vatican and certain
places that probably aren't on record anywhere in the world
that do have things kept for what's available to the public.
This guy's really dumb bloody well, and it's one of

(01:17:28):
my bucket lists to go there and spend some time
in that place, because you know, I learned so much
from the esoteric wild. If you want over my life
and it changes your perspective and your knowledge. Here's something
else people, in regards to the word knowledge is important.
To take on knowledge and grow your knowledge, you need

(01:17:49):
to recognize and accept how little you know, and not
just now, but forever. As soon as you think you
know it all, you don't have knowledge. You've lost it.
You have to always accept how little you know and
be willing to learn and take in anything and everything.
Time for wisdom. To be wise, man must seek nothing

(01:18:10):
other than wisdom.

Speaker 6 (01:18:11):
And that's it, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:18:12):
And this is what my life pass about and find
in the matchics. We do get lost there with the
general to day things happening in the world, and is
to do this or of talk. For me, it's beautiful
because it's like that's what I've always enjoyed doing my life.
My whole show was about doing this sort of stuff.
And of course I get drawn into the outside world,
because that's the duty for the physical plane.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
Sure, I looked up the Ribmond Library real quick and
that is actually located in the Embassy of the Free Minds,
so I have been there. It is perfect, vast, it is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:42):
Incredible, And there you go jumping on that. I've got
to ask you because I have to.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
My name is uap Lee, So I'll be a miss
and no doubt my fans would never forgive me.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
If I if I didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:18:52):
So, I mean, you've let me into a whole new world.
I mean stuff that we've touched on before. You know,
Guy Anderson, He's talked about Tataria on the show. We've
talked about, you know, a waken in with Matt Christopher
Lee and what that means with human consciousness when and
now and obviously everything that you've talked about.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Where do you stand on the non human intelligence side
of things?

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
I mean, where do you see aliens fitting into all
this the crazy stuff we've see in the skies, the
unexplained science and basically physics that we just don't understand.

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
Our science seems.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
There seems to be a lot of scientists within the complex,
the military complex, wor the ones that we'd be working
on deep state that keep information to themselves, and civilian
scientists sort of people like you and me that just
went down there and want to know stuff. They're very
frustrated with that deep state because they can't learn it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Seems we've hit a brick wall with physics.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
So where do you stand with aliens and NHI, the tech,
the reverse engineered stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:19:52):
Please do bring us in.

Speaker 7 (01:19:55):
Okay, So I know someone that can pass on to
you as well that will also do a vig with you,
called John Hanson. John Hanson was a thirty year police
officer and police sergeant in the UK. He has many
books called The Haunted Skies John Hanson and his wife

(01:20:19):
was called Dawn. I think she was also an author involved.
So I had a running with John Hanson many years
ago because I was part of a group citing that
didn't just last for minutes. It lasted for a good
half an hour and a whole group of people stood
there watching it. Then it was a raise from our
memories and we all didn't talk about it when we

(01:20:40):
went back into property. There was over two thousand phone
calls to the police. People crashed with their family. One
person crashed with his family into a building because they
were looking at it. So when that happened, and a
few days later, I was with a group of friends
and then something got brought to my attention and it
triggered this thought of me standing in the garden with

(01:21:02):
all these people looking at something, and I was like,
is that a dream or real? Then you ring one
up because we in the garden, and then you wake
them up to it. Oh my god, how do we
forget that? And then this thing happens. That's when it
changed the game from a normal sight into something we
shouldn't have seen because it affected us in a way.

Speaker 6 (01:21:20):
Whatever. I had to go and meet this guy called
John Anderson.

Speaker 7 (01:21:23):
There was also another guy that had to deal with
called Nick Pope, who was, Yeah, the Minipure Defense of
the UK sort of thing. Yeah, and he run he
ran the group that was called is the head of
this group called BOOFORA which is Birmingham UFO Organization or something,
And I didn't know because he was above it, owning it.

(01:21:46):
He directed what information would and would not be leaked
from it to the public.

Speaker 3 (01:21:53):
Was Lewis, Yeah, he was Richard Doughty.

Speaker 4 (01:21:56):
He was the British version of Richard Doughty.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
He was the guy that gave the misinformation, decided what
people knew and what didn't know. Yeah, he was wooing
the MD to do.

Speaker 7 (01:22:07):
Because of my critical thinking. I spoke to everyone else
with me that day and the story goes like this.
Wherever I live was up quite a far big hill,
and about half a mile from my house was a shop.
My sister was coming around to my house. I was
always the open house where all my friends and stuff come.
She came out the shop and her girlfriend was quite
a biggish girl, not someone that wants to run. Put

(01:22:29):
it that way, in the fair putting way of putting it.
They looked up in the sky and they sitting this thing,
and my sister was like fit as a fiddle. She's
like going to my brother's quick ufo ufo. So they've
run for five minutes or so and you know, sweating
about the stuff to get there. Dog gets knocked. I'm
in the conservatory of all my mates at the back
of the house. Night daughter's mum at the time, goes

(01:22:52):
to open the front door. My sister's their panic and
look at this, look at this, and you know she
goes out and looks in the sky and then she
comes running through to the concert. She bangs it opens
up and goes quick UFO. I almost looked and laughed,
as in like shut up, that's embarrassing for me. Like that,
I mean the partner's talking about UFOs. I was like,
shut up, right, But all my mates went out, one
after the other, like rapid following her what They were excited.

(01:23:14):
And I was the last one to walk out of
the front door. As I've come out the front door,
those that already stood there looking at it. I'm not speaking.
They stood up looking at it. Their mouths aren't moving,
and they stood there like zombies. I remember everything. I
stood there and looked him, and then I looked Blair
and then also caught my attention, and I've just stared
at it roughly for about two minutes, and then it's

(01:23:37):
almost like one have to do with We walked back inside.
No one spoke of it. Everyone went about their business
and it was it. But during that moment in Bromsgrove, Redditch,
in the areas I lived, there was over two thousand
phone calls to the place that people witnessed it in
the sky. It was a humanongous what would look like
a half moon shape sliced in the middle so look
more of a bird beak, and was it on its side.

Speaker 6 (01:23:58):
It was changing shape now.

Speaker 7 (01:24:00):
It was like the flat bit at the top and
the button bit coming around almost like a fin off
a surfboard.

Speaker 6 (01:24:07):
Right, So just in that part there.

Speaker 7 (01:24:10):
So what happened was when I was looking at it, okay,
it was like a weird glowy sort of shape and
it was what they call a twilight when the sun's
disappearing in the background. So eventually, when I'd woken up
to it, started a questioning on my family and the
people that were there and getting them to remember them,
getting them to draw what they thought they sin put
it all together, and then I'll got a phone call

(01:24:31):
off someone and this guy called John Hanson wanted to
speak to me ex police or whatever. And it's very
important because I was, you know something and a cinema.

Speaker 6 (01:24:42):
I don't know. This is what I do know.

Speaker 7 (01:24:44):
What he said is I SIN was a government craft
and during the moment of just seeing it was it
was invisible to the eye because it's under a cloak
of technology cloak. And the part that we SIN is
the electro magnetic absorber of the force around it to
do its work. And because the someone's disappearing in the

(01:25:05):
background and it's going to have their eyes on or
whatever was happening in the sun. It disappeared in that
twilight moment. It was changing its cloak tonight invisibility, I suppose,
and that's kind of what was going on, and we
send the malfunction of it. Right So him himself took
my reports, which is in one of the books, and

(01:25:27):
then he got reports off other people. Because he worked
for the police force, he had connections in the place
to speak to as well about all the phone calls
and it's quite a big thing. Well, what happened after
that was he told me that dealing with this Bemingham
UFO or which are getting involved, they wanted everyone's reports
was to see if anyone had pictures or videos, because

(01:25:47):
that's all they cared about exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
Yeah, And I'd like to tell you a story right, well,
I could add some credibility to that. There was a
story about the UFO in Calvine in the Scotland. This
is one of the most incredible pictures of a UFO
ever taken by man, and there was two hikers took
the picture. I'm just going to summarize it really quick.
They took the picture, these two hikers. They went back
to the hostel that they were staying at Plus working,

(01:26:12):
told people there what they'd seen. The guy in the kitchen,
They went out for a cigarette. This guy's turned up
in this black car. It was absolutely hammering it down
with rain. They took the guys cameras and all the
rest of it. Little did they know that they'd given
one of the stills to an RF press officer. Some
years later, that picture was then surfaced and it was
collected given to James Fox, who's the UFO investigating now.

(01:26:36):
But those stills that were confiscated by the men in black,
one of those images was blown up and was above
Nick Desk's Pope Nick Pope's desk in the mod So
that adds the credibility to what you just said. They're
the only thing that they wanted was the footage and
the pictures to confiscate. So that adds credence to this
very existence of this in clandestine service men in black

(01:26:58):
that go around conference this evidence to stop people talking
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
So please carry on. This is incredible I do believe.

Speaker 7 (01:27:05):
I do believe in extra test your lives, and I
do believe that, and I do when people see the
idea of a vision of a gray alien, I would
also sit there and say, because the reason why that's
visualized a lot is because people have DMT or certain psychedelics, and.

Speaker 6 (01:27:19):
That then is triggering what I know to be your.

Speaker 7 (01:27:22):
DNA memory, things that have been amongst us or walked
amongst us, or what we may have been once in
previous epochs or time. But when we see things happening now,
I would classic more as an interdimensional experience. I'm not
saying that when we have stories of people being abducted,

(01:27:43):
and you know, I don't look into that side too
much because I feel that's a bit more storytelling in
that way. But I'm not saying it hasn't happened for
those that may have experienced it. But my point is
it things of the mind. The hermetic order states this.
So I presume that when we have these accounters or
things that multiple people are seeing in this sort of
planetary metrics we're living in, it's malfunctions and multi dimensional

(01:28:07):
time scales almost interlocking and clashing. And then you'll watch
something like the documentary called Stephen Greer unacknowledged or the
Fifth Kind.

Speaker 6 (01:28:17):
I don't know if you've seen them.

Speaker 7 (01:28:18):
Yeah, oh, write write it down, yeah acknowledged.

Speaker 4 (01:28:25):
Yeah, it was the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:28:27):
It's called paranormal. Yeah, yeah, not.

Speaker 7 (01:28:29):
Paranormal, the fifth Kind. It's called just the fifth kind.
Stephen Greer and them documentaries. They call it c E five.
So around twenty nineteen, I spent thousands and thousands of
pounds in night vision technology, in amazing telescopes. I'd have
thirteen tripods in my garden with all different things on it,
and I had my green lasers, and I was getting

(01:28:51):
videos which I can still access for you now on
my laptops. Are things moving in the sky that are
not the satellites that where they were not visible to
other cameras but they were they were visible on certain
spectrums and that meant men whether these things were moving
around in rapid speeds and changing the directory. It is
almost like they're there, but they're not physical. It sounds weird,
so it's almost like a spiritual point of view. It's

(01:29:12):
like the camera's picking up on something and it's moving up,
you know, incredible rights and stuff. But then it's almost
like not a physical object. We've spoken about. Yeah, we
spoke about this before.

Speaker 3 (01:29:24):
And this is why one of the military guys in
Vietnam said that the band red light with some of
the night vision because the visibility of the spectrum of
red light was causing the soldiers to see all these
crazy ship flying around. So they changed it to green.
That's why night visions has never been red since, so
they say. But again, that just adds credence to something
that you said there with interdimensional beans, and that's something

(01:29:45):
that's big in the UAP community. That's been mentioned a
lot recently, the interdimensional beans. There is other stuff out there,
you know at the moment that this brand new basically
data In the last few weeks even that's come up Beatrice,
Villaryot and Villa Road as a sort of she's studied
and found data looking at previous images from before we

(01:30:10):
put Sputnik up there to see these sort of called transients,
these things that were flying around in our atmosphere before satellites,
so a mankind had put anything up there, and there's
hundreds of thousands of records of these things moving in
patterns and orbits that are not that shouldn't be there basically,
and this is data that's sort of been shown now
and it's under peer review, but it leads it sort

(01:30:34):
of leads to an interesting conclusion that we haven't got yet,
but a lot of people are jump into. And then
again we're talking about first case, our first hand whistleblowers
like Jake Barber, they talk about things that you've just
spoke about. They call it psionic. You call it see five.
Others do call it see five. He calls it psionic.
And it's the case of a lot of these crafts

(01:30:55):
that people see up there flying around, moving about, they're
not controlled by by physical being within. It's all from
the mind, the conscious and that's how Jake Barber has witnessed,
and that's one of the techniques that they're using on
the Skywatcher programs is currently undergoing to bring craft in
or to lure them in using psionics.

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
They call it. People with a little bit of on
red extra power.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
People that can expect, you know, step into those astral planes,
remote viewers, they called it, and can sort of command
these things down so they can be studied. And Jake
Barber has said, as a helicopter pilot for various aerospace
companies in the US. He's gone out as a pilot,
captured these craft, underslung them underneath the helicopter, and brought

(01:31:41):
them back for analysis to be driven away, and you know,
they've been experimented on, and various aerospace companies may have
that reverse technology now. And that's sort of a lot
of people think why the information has been suppressed because
having that kind of technology would essentially lead to the
breakdown of everything that they hold the energy sector, their

(01:32:01):
monopoly on mankind basically would crumble because we wouldn't need
them anymore to provide energy for bills, and you know,
all the rest of it.

Speaker 4 (01:32:08):
Their system would collapse.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
So there's a lot of people that think that's why
a lot of this UAP and aliens that's been suppressed.
It's because of the ramifications of us knowing that the
technology is there to achieve energy basically, to draw it
in from these other dimensions. The quantum field, as scientists
would call it, different layels of energy maybe you would
call it, but yeah, it's just there's there's things, there's

(01:32:30):
similarities that you mentioned there. I mean, I put that
to you again as a counter comment. I don't know
why you want to say anything on that.

Speaker 7 (01:32:38):
I believe yeah, one dred percent because it was my
most exciting part of my life. And my videos were
so geeky you'd love my old soul for doing it.
I have to be really geeky with my fo hunting videos. Yeah,
I loved it, and I do believe that regardless, if
we look at the hideocentric model of space and you know,

(01:32:59):
the universe, we cannot be the only planet with.

Speaker 6 (01:33:04):
Life or intelligent life.

Speaker 7 (01:33:06):
There's two billion planets within our galaxy, and then there's
two trillion galaxies within the next you know, I mean
size opening, so you look pull them together.

Speaker 6 (01:33:18):
There has to be something else.

Speaker 7 (01:33:20):
And as some of the old greats would say, we're
just a hostile planet. We are hostile species. And you know,
if there is such thing as intelligence, it won't come
with violence. It's how I like to believe in it
as well. I'm like, you know, what makes perfect sense
because if they had intelligence and they were violent, they
would already be taken us out. So I like to

(01:33:41):
see it that way, that they are working with certain
people that they can fill the vibrations off and being
good people that are just interested and you know, lucky
enough to maybe connect. And then there's the other spectrum
of just generally on the other occasion, people are going
to see something and hopefully it does get worked away
because you know, maybe they do work with the governments.
Maybe they but look at it the federvation, galaxy government

(01:34:06):
sort of aspect of it. There's like theory is about
the government's working with him, isn't there. They call it
the Galactic Federvation, don't.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
Well, Your friend Stephen, Stephen Green believes that this three
Eye Atlas, and he's been saying it for years now,
is that the government is going to unleash something on
it's called Project Bluebeam, and that is essentially this creation
of an alien threat that doesn't exist to come to
mankind and that we all need to unite, being underneath
a new world order that is essentially being brought upon

(01:34:35):
us by the Majestic Twelve, who are these people who
run the world and all of the industry and basically everything,
and they're going to bring us under this under the
illusion of this threat, this et threat. That's what Stephen
Greer says, and he's urging obviously the people not to
believe this threat. It's all rubbish. That they said, the
ETS or the Nhi that are coming here, they're not

(01:34:57):
a threat to us. They're here to help us. Then
they are to sort of elevate us to that next
level of consciousness and to assist mankind, not to destroy us,
as these evil entities and the Deep State would have
us believe. Hence the need for this suppression. So a
lot of people think there's this catastrophic disclosure is coming
where the state's not going to release this information.

Speaker 4 (01:35:17):
They're not going to bring us into it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
However, there's going to be this mass awaken in which
we're seeing now that's going to force the hand of
the people, as in people whistleblowers that have been within
this section the deep State. Force these people to come
out with evidence and show this and you know, are worse.
Something lands and exposes itself to us in a way
that makes this just way out of the control of
the Deep State, and it is a catastrophic disclosure and

(01:35:41):
basically religions collapse, maybe you know, societies fall apart. Maybe
they think, oh my god, we're free, we can do
something different. You know, we're all free. Maybe that frees mankind.
But that's what Stephen Greer sort of thinks as the
whole thing, this alien threat, it doesn't exist. And that's
where we are with it. And I know you've mentioned it,

(01:36:01):
and that's sort of where he was leading from. From
the unapnowledged documentaries and my recent stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:36:06):
I think for you, Lee, I need to get you
in touch with John Hanson because I've been to his
archives and his books were based upon the last hundred
years and it weren't a hundred years of people like
Neil you. It's a one hundred years worth of pilots,
people captains of ships, credible people in the system that

(01:36:27):
had significant evidence and experiences and whatnot with you know,
the UFOs and whatnot. And that's why he's got all
these documents of a very important person to that sort
of stuff. Because obviously mixing like the two Stelly sort
of stuff and then then the aliens, it's almost like
people there. Certain viewers will be like beautiful, like a

(01:36:48):
bit of multi category, but I suppose it can almost
clash a little bit, which is true.

Speaker 6 (01:36:53):
But I think it's brilliant.

Speaker 7 (01:36:54):
But you will love John because honestly, he was a
thirty year police officer and sergeant and private investigator and detective.
And then, of course the reason why they left the
force was because him and six of our officers turned
up to an incident where there was an alien craft

(01:37:14):
or a spacecraft will call it, landing in a field
next to her farmland. They all approached at the police officers,
they all got to witness it together. They all like
blown away with what they just witnessed and everything. And
then when they went back to do a report on it,
of course people come into the room and it's explained
to them you're never allowed to speak of this ever

(01:37:35):
again because of the impact it would have on the
police force. Would look like a load of loons and
everything shut down on the spot. Well, him as a
man was like, no, I know what I saw that
will never be taken from me. And then he left
the force eventually and became a youuthologist and an author
for these things. It's a beautiful experience to see the
stuff he's got, and I think it'll be a really
good connection for you to go deep into some of

(01:37:57):
these things and the mysteries evolved, you know, all this
sort of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:38:01):
Well, we had we have had gart before. I don't
know if you know.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
Gary Hazelton is he was the chief investigator on the
rendellshim case and ye, perfect, So he's dug deep into
that and he's mentioned it before.

Speaker 4 (01:38:17):
I've been in policeman himself.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
I'd love to make the John Hanson connection, if you
could make that up, and that would be fantastic.

Speaker 4 (01:38:23):
I'd appreciate that that happen. Rich, I'm not gonna there.

Speaker 6 (01:38:29):
Yeah, yeah, I got his number as well, so we
have to drop the message.

Speaker 7 (01:38:33):
I'll drop a message so you can get that speak
to John, and obviously also if you'd like to do
some sort of chating some esthotetics talks talks and that stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Yeah, I was going to say, this has been a
way and we want to start tying a bowing it now,
just because I'm very wary of time.

Speaker 4 (01:38:49):
However, like as you just said, this.

Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Is taking some crazy right and left turns. We've gone
from the bounced to bounce to bounds, from.

Speaker 4 (01:38:56):
Topic to top. It's been brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:38:58):
Actually, it's been way better than I expected. With that
being said, i'd love to get you back on again
for exactly what you've just said. There there's way much
you can jump into. Yeah, I'm sure Stein's licking his lips.
I'll want to know that will pick your brain on
some a lot of different things.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
Man, I need to I need to get you on
the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:39:15):
Pagan, I don't stand up. It's probably his trousers out
at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Rich.

Speaker 7 (01:39:19):
I know some beautiful history of the Pagans, and I
know about all the gods, and if you start going
up north and looking at some of the ancient gods
like why me and the frost garden this planet, and
I'm glad that we're all kind of connecting and bringing
it to light now and understanding it.

Speaker 6 (01:39:38):
That there was.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
There was so much more that I wanted to say
about it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
That's what I'm trying to shut.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Yeah, I know, I mean I'm a pagan. I'm you know,
I call this hystericist. I I love that ship. But
I should get you on my own show for that.

Speaker 7 (01:40:00):
Yeah, if you could link and I'll also send them
my mob on number off to see you've got that
as well, guys, and we'll get linked up and we'll
we're good to work, and I'll hook you up with
some the gupologist.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Yeah, I mean, one of the things we do on
this show, mate, and one of the reasons we do
this show. Yes, we'd like to get into the topics
that others don't go near, and it might put us
at some point, I'm no doubt when the viewership goes
up further in danger maybe at some stage.

Speaker 4 (01:40:25):
Who knows, that's what you hear about these things.

Speaker 3 (01:40:27):
That's so what one of the things we do and
talk about this stuff and why we get into these
subjects because the more people that know about it, the
more people that can share this information, the more that
can start waking it. When we've talked about it on
this podcast tonight, they're wakening. It comes in many different forms,
I think, and just realizing that we as people have
a god given right to our own freedoms and thoughts

(01:40:48):
and feelings on this planet. It's one of those things
that this show does. I believe it gives people that
willingness to want to do that and having people like
you or mate it makes all the difference. So the
more we can talk talk about this stuff, the more
guests that we can get on that can shed the
light on the dark, it can only do good as
far as I'm concerned. So what we'll do is we'll
put all your links and everything in the description of

(01:41:10):
this show rich from me. Stein can obviously tie by
it himself. But thanks a lot for coming on mate.
It's been brilliant, really enlightening stuff. Thanks a lot, you too,
some thanks so much.

Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
Well.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
This this has been been absolutely amazing and I can
wait to get you on now on the Great Pagans
to like really go into the the occult an esoteric
stuff like yeah, I I was. I was indeed, like
as said, like pretty much my lips. It's like, oh yeah,
I'm about this man.

Speaker 4 (01:41:38):
Uh no, yeah, this is this has been. This has
been really cool.

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
I don't like but Lee, like, how often do we
get that that? You know, we have a guest who
is like really like part of both worlds?

Speaker 4 (01:41:48):
Yeah, very rare.

Speaker 6 (01:41:50):
We haven't.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
We haven't. We haven't had we haven't had that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:53):
We usually get a specialist in something, somebody that dips
his toe into a lot of it.

Speaker 4 (01:41:58):
It's great to it. Yeah, I say, to be able
to plug.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
That information from you on many different stuff, many different topics.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:42:05):
My Controversial Controversial Subjects group had one hundred and twenty
thousand people on it and the YouTube channel was massive
and just in one day when I went into I
got arrested for doing the protesting and lockdown sort of
anti lockdowns and what not during that time of the world.
And what happened was I was in in an interview

(01:42:27):
and I came out of the interview from the police
station and they put me under public order that I
wasn't allowed to carry electrical devices in public, no mobile phones,
no cameras because of the impact I was having. Went
to go on my YouTube, gone, went to go on
my Facebook, gone. I was like, oh, I really am
above the target and they've just made a message to

(01:42:48):
me enough to know if I was like shit. But
my show was called Controversial Subjects Unleashed, and I covered
all topics as any and every topic. Enough, I suppose
you get the vast spread of the puzzle.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
Well, I'm grateful.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
We'll make sure that all the links are are in
the description box down below that all the links are provided.
We'll have and the doctor not as evil also, why
you know, or so he says, So we'll have him.
We'll have him do that. So yeah, Lee Richard, you know, guys,
thank you very much for coming on. This has been

(01:43:24):
a this has been a wild show man. We went
all over the place. This has really been cool. So
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with us. This is as I said, this has been
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is on there, the shows, the social media pages. So
if you don't feel like, you know, having ten taps open,

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for another amazing episode of Across Upon Podcast. Until next time,
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