Back To Basics: Living Outside the System with Nick Kitchen

In this episode, we sit down with Nick Kitchen from The Community Assembly of the British Isles to explore a bold vision for the future—by looking to the past.

Nick shares the Assembly's mission to revive tribal, community-based living as a way to reconnect with nature, reestablish self-sufficiency, and create meaningful human connection. We dig into what “getting back to basics” really means in today’s world, the challenges of living outside modern systems, and why more people are being drawn to communal ways of life.

Whether you’re curious about off-grid living, intentional communities, or simply seeking a slower, more grounded existence—this conversation is a must-listen.

Links to the Community Assembly of the British Isles:

Website: https://www.ca-britishisles.com/
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Links to the Assemblies of the World:

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Speaker 5 (01:46):
Going downhill already. We have a very special guest here
with us, mister Nick Nick Kitchen and uh yeah, like so,
and we you know, of course, the The Han Show
is here, The the Bald one as the taglines. So yeah, Nick,

(02:15):
thank you, thank you very much for for coming on,
thank you for joining Across the Ponds podcast. And for
those who may not be familiar with you, your work
or what you do, just yet introduce yourself.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
Man. Well thanks guys, really good to see you both
again and thank you for having me on Across the Pond.
Certainly it's an absolute pleasure. So myself. So I'm I
don't know, maybe you could tell by my accent. I'm
from Lincolnshire and I've been a member of a community

(02:57):
organization for the past more than three years now. But
you know, in this what would we call it the
conspiracy space, the freedom movement, I don't know this this
this is probably an awakening, isn't it over this last
few years where certain things have gone on and people

(03:25):
have seemingly, you know, sort of come together and spotted
all kinds of things that are not quite right. And
you know, it's good to see that people have come
out of the woodwork and been able to see that

(03:46):
there needs to be sort of change happening. In the
last last few years, I think people have realized that,
you know, what we've been witnessing and experiencing is certainly
not not good, really not good for humanity, and spiritually

(04:08):
we need to wake up. And I think also on
the you know, the physical side of things, we need
to kick up the ass to be honest. Two, you know,
really define what we want out of all of this,
because I don't think really those kind of questions have

(04:30):
probably been asked, certainly, so I've gone off pat already.
There's not really an introduction.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
That's fine, now, it's fine, it's fine. It's what we want.
Is the background for it? This society that you call it, Nick,
When did it start? Who started it? And how has
it rolled from there?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Right?

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Okay, So the organization is called the Community Assembly the
British Isles and it was officially started in twenty nineteen.
So this was before a certain period or a certain
word became prevalent, to say, previous to that, there was

(05:22):
things that were put together, but officially in twenty nineteen
the Community Assemblies came together and it's a framework for
community that is like a framework for a parallel society,

(05:45):
you know, one that sits alongside the system but not
part of. As we feel that this system that is
going on now is not really benefit special two W
two to us really anymore certainly in this this in

(06:07):
this country or in the British aisles as you say, uh,
and across the world. You know, we're seeing this, we're
seeing this worldwide. So you know, having a framework there
for people to to come together to establish their identity,
their customs, their traditions, two build their communities in you know,

(06:37):
in their local areas with you know, alternative health and
law enforcement, security, food, security, education, and uh, just to
establish a better way one that that suits as much

(06:58):
better while gaining our jurisdiction and independence and self governance,
which you know is important, is important, and you know,
having this physical framework that we can work to you know,

(07:22):
we're we're achieving things you know, in action. But you
know you've all always got this interconnectivity with the what's
going on spiritually as well. You know, as you know,
we grow, we you know, we do tasks and you know,

(07:44):
make good. We're also it's interconnected with the our spiritual
sense as well. And there is there is a sense
that's I suppose or say sense been said I think
quite quite many times about this is a you know,

(08:07):
like a spiritual battle and a spiritual war and I
think it's certainly certainly years. But you know, for our
selves really you know, trying to figure out who we are,
you know, this this you know, where we come from,
our sovereignty, how we were born, and our understanding or

(08:32):
understanding as some people would say, of ourselves and this
growth you know, spiritually and collectively as humans for you know,
for something better and this is what you know, we
aim to strive for within the community assemblies while having

(08:54):
certain structures in place so we can live just you know,
better and more and more happier, you know, because then
obviously you know, it feeds that spirit and it helps us,
helps us grow, you know, with the knowledge and the
teaching that is inherent in that as well is you know,

(09:18):
it's just some great elements that have you know, sort
of been put together in this framework for you know,
people to you know, come and join and to you know,
just help themselves grow and be be part of.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
How does that actually work though, Nick? Is it a
obviously you say you're a network. Are you all in
the same place. Do you all live together in a
community or are you all like we're talking now, do
you have meetings like this? Are you all over the
country because of that kind of situation.

Speaker 4 (09:55):
We're all over the country but also worldwide as well.
So the community assemblies the framework allows for interconnected communities
in your local area. So my role is a facilitator
for Lincolnshire. So we have now ten assemblies in Lincolnshire,

(10:15):
so that's that's you know, towns, villages and you know
the county of Lincolnshire. So we'll have small groups, but
we're all interconnected. So the communities assemblies that are in
the towns and villages in Lincolnshire are part of the

(10:37):
Lincolnshire Community Assembly and the Lincolnshire Community Assembly sits alongside
the other counties and Cornwall as its own country by right,
so we're connected under the community Assembly in the British

(10:59):
isles are independent in a local communities because every community
works differently, so you would have a certain sets of
things maybe in Lincolnshire that maybe Lancashire is not experiencing,
so that the two would have to be different. So

(11:20):
you couldn't necessarily have a hard and fast rule or
you know, one thing that you know you have to
stick by and be static, so that this is you
know why it is, like why the framework is as
it is, so it allows the interconnectivity, but the evolution,

(11:46):
you know, for the communities to evolves as they need
to in their own you know sort of towns and
villages and their own counties, and the same with the
with the worldwide. We call it the assemblies of the world.

(12:07):
So this is you know, different countries that have within
them their assemblies in their you know, different areas, like
with America, they have the Community Assembly New Jersey and
this Community Assembly of California obviously the Community Assembly of America,

(12:30):
which a country would always carry an emissary. So it's
it just is this framework. It's I mean, it sounds
sort of like wow, you know, like I don't know,
some kind of world order. But you know, having a
framework allows function but not you know, so you know,

(12:54):
it keeps it sort of focused, but it allows evolvement
and function but still keeping it together. So if you
had no framework, you probably find that things would get
quite sort of disjointed. But you know, even with the framework,
it's still always down to the members of the Community

(13:18):
Assembly on what they decide. So John Gilbert, who is
the founder of the Community Assembly and he's over in Cornwall,
has no power whatsoever because he is governed by what
the members want from him. So myself, as a facilitator

(13:42):
for Lincolnshire, I facilitate to what the members want. It's
not what I want, not what Lincolnshire wants as a whole,
it's what the towns and the villages and the assemblies
they're in and the members would you want to see
that and see happen. And we do have a voting
system where sorry, excuse me, Yeah, we do have a

(14:07):
voting system so members can vote on everything. So this
is you know, anything that wants to be sort of
put through, it will go to a vote and of
course of the members vote no, if they abstain, it
still counts as of no. So you know, we have

(14:28):
to get that fifty one percent to you know, carry
a vote through. And you know, we're just looking going
back to when we had this conversation before, and we
where we're going back to the how the Anglo Saxons

(14:51):
and the time before where you know, they had assemblies
where you know, the village would decide on they wanted
and the head of the village would facilitate that that
you know, they would probably have a council like the
Saxons had a Witten. They would derive from, you know,

(15:12):
the villagers, the people that had standing in the village,
and they were put forward to ask or facilitate the
things that the villagers wanted.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
And sorry to cut you off, it sounds like what
it was what I spoke to you about when you
first dited talking about it. I had this idea of
the film I told you to watch for your homework.
I don't know if you watched it.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
I couldn't get it, unfortunately, because I have Netflix and
it's on Amazon. So I tried to get an Amazon
thing and it kept booting me off because it said
I'd already signed up and unfortunately not yet.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
What it basically is obviously, the film's called The Village,
and it was a billionaire in America who bought this
massive piece off and fenced it off and went back
to basics that everyone who lived there did live there
for I think it was about a hundred years, and
they were working in this tribal kind of system. Everyone

(16:12):
helped towards the village. The village had elders. The elders
were in charge, people would vote on it. What you've
described there, it's more of a countrywide thing where you
have different pockets of your society. Do you all actually
come together at any point?

Speaker 7 (16:32):
And all we do, we do come together at meetings.
We have one hundred and forty plus assemblies, not entirely
sure of the of the actual figure, and.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
We meet where we can. Certainly we have meetings obviously,
you know, being spread out, you know, logistically not everybody
he could get to certain meetings. What we are or
had planned to do, is have a large meeting in

(17:09):
the middle of the country where it's you know, it's
open for everyone in the assemblies, which all meetings are,
you know, we have them in Lincolnshire. We're not saying
this is just for Lincolnshire members, and we do get people,
you know that travel from different areas. And we're having

(17:30):
a Freedom Festival in Norfolk in Norwich on the eighteenth
and hopefully we'll see members traveling from different parts of
the country. No, it's not a community assembly set up event.
But John's going to be speaking there. He's going to
be in his uniform, which is his peace constable role,

(17:55):
so he will be speaking in that or I hope
he's listening. He is now going to be speaking. You've
got no choice's got no choice, John, Yeah, so yeah,
there is, there needs to be more, There needs to
be more events. But you know, generally in the areas

(18:16):
where people are, they would you know, they're obviously responsible
for their own meetings, they set them up, and yeah,
this is you know, something that's up to the members
to do. Of course, how does it work.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
With obviously you'll have your own rules, you'll have your
own laws, so to say, how does that work with
conventional society? Do you still follow their rules as well?

Speaker 4 (18:46):
Right? Okay, so we work on the unnatural law. So
this is an oath or a declaration that is taken
by every community Assembly member when they join to abide
by natural law, which is of cause, no harm, of
cause no loss, you know, be honorable in my contracts,

(19:10):
and to stand as a living being of flesh and blood.
And there is you know, no conflict with within that.
So as to the system and the society, you know,
we are functioning in this system with probably one foot in,

(19:31):
one foot out. It's not ideal. It's not ideal, so
we have to make do. But then we're also challenging
this system with their under natural law, but also under
their own legislations. The law is not a problem. It's

(19:53):
legislation where you know, what causes a conflict that you know,
the law is the law, and we abound. You know, obviously,
you know we commit an unlawful act, whether it's you know,
by natural law or by the system or what's laid

(20:17):
down as law, we're still will come under. That's that's
you know, they're generally a law is still caused no
harm and cause no loss, as is natural law. Legislations
are the challenging part on how they are actually trying

(20:38):
to push them as law and legislation is only there
by consent. They will tell you it's not, but you
know you can evidence it. I think Asbi versus White
in seventeen oh three evidence the judge said, you know,

(21:03):
you have to seek consent of the people, and in
seventeen oh four the Lord's agreed with this, and I
think they went further into say individual consent. You could
go to Black's law, which is I think they cite
it as a legislation. Statutes and acts are given the

(21:27):
force of law, but only by the consent of the people.
Yet Parliament seems to think that it has the ability
to be sovereign and for everything they say becomes law. However,
they are still governed under the law, and they get
they have been beaten down by the courts. So that

(21:49):
means is that obviously they cannot make law if the
courts confined against them, because the courts have the authority
that this is courts that are uh, I mean, they're
using they're using law. But they would also find that
legislation is not functionable or you know, doesn't apply in

(22:17):
to what they you know, what they're doing. I can't
think of the actual word there is a word that
describes it. But you know, as a you know, as
a paracel parallel society, we're going to you know, incounter
challenges of course, but you know, we also have got

(22:39):
to stand by what we're saying, by what we mean
this this comes back down to ourselves, is that you know,
we we are standing here. This is the decoration that
we're saying. We're you know, we're abiding by natural law.
We're standing up in our in our flesh and bones, bones,
we have a soul. We was born free under God

(23:00):
or the Creator. And who are you to say that
you have an authority over me? Because we're all born equal.
And this is you know, sort of, you know, the
challenge that we you know, we're going through we have
to stamp our standing and this becomes then also spiritual,

(23:22):
is that you know, we must know who we are,
we must know how we're born. And you know, we
don't fight for freedom because freedom we are. You know,
we're free. We are. We don't need to be writing
off to the government and saying, you know, please understand

(23:44):
that I am free, because you are really giving away
your freedom because you're writing to somebody that you are
trying to get approval from. So it would make sense
that you are looking at them as an authority over you,
which means that you can't really understand that you are

(24:05):
free in the Firse base. So we, you know, we
have to get to this point of knowing. And this
is what we, you know, we try to teach through
the community assemblers, is that we don't need to be
drowning in paperwork documents. We just need to be standing

(24:25):
up in our own skin and you know, professing who
we are.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
And I think it's drilled in tools, isn't it. From
day one? As soon as you're born, you're presented with
this certificate. Here's your birth certificate. And that's more like
a certificate of ownership of the country.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
We own you.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
This is the certificate that says that now you follow
all our rules. It's that kind of situation. Have you
got there in the Netherlands, Stein, I assume you are
birth certificates.

Speaker 5 (24:55):
Yeah, no, of course, of course you do. It's you know,
it's bringing my the same here. Then you know, by
the time you like you get your first ID guard
or get your first like past. No, no, even that's
from birth, like you get your your text I D
which I mean in in a way like your text

(25:17):
ID is who you are as a you know, a
citizen of the country. Like you know, I am not
I'll use my screen name. I'm not you know, I
am not sign Fox, I am number. You know it
is and this that you know. And that's like with

(25:39):
with so many government institutions. You feel like you're you know,
just the number, you know, just a document number or
just you know, a a tax number or whatever, because
you are you know you That's why, well, at least
here in the Netherlands, whenever you call like a government
institution or like even healthcare, you're asked to type in

(26:04):
that number. Like even on the phone, like otherwise they don't.
They have no idea who you are. It's like it's
it's it's fucking me. Okay, like I'm saying, you know,
I'll live where I live, like you know me, I'm
registered with you guys. Now we need your as the
conspiracy crowd likes to call it. I dislike the name

(26:25):
very much, but your slave number, you know, I guess
like during times of slavery, like you've got brandished that
number during like World War Two the number was tattooed
on you. So like, yeah, you're for at least the
official government, the the the ruling governments. Let's say they're

(26:48):
not even official, they're just the ruling ones. You know,
you are nothing but that number. It's like, but I'm
Steyning Fox. Yeah okay, but like what's your number? Yeah,
why just look my name? No, we need that, you
know that text number. No, you don't just look at
my name.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
No, No, it's not enough.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
You know your name.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
You are, you know, by using the number that you
know you go by for the government. So yeah, from
birth really, like as soon as you're as, you're registered
as a citizen, which is also a thing, like you
have to register yourself as a citizen for you know,

(27:31):
I I I'm a father of two, and you got
three days to like a week maximum.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I was going to say, it's a time limit, isn't that.

Speaker 5 (27:43):
Yeah, yeah, Otherwise you're just not recognized that as a citizen.
Good luck getting a job, good luck getting a passport.
For as far as the the as first law really
is concerned, you don't exist. Doesn't matter that you're walking
around their flesh and blood, you know, doing doing this,
and that you know, when it comes to two law,

(28:08):
tax law, really you don't exist. And because you don't exist,
you can't get an ID. Because you don't exist, and
you don't have a text number, you can't get a job,
you can't do anything. So you you need it in
this system at least that is in place if you

(28:30):
want to.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Live.

Speaker 5 (28:34):
And like I'm really like stretching the word live, because
this is not living, this is merely surviving at this point.
You know, if you want to to live or survive
in this this set system, you're gonna need that tax
ID number. Which is kind of what I wanted to

(28:57):
ask Nick, like, how do you, very bluntly put, how
do you keep the government off your back, like they
don't like people splitting off. They don't like people, you know,
going back to what is basically tribal living. You know,
we take care of ourselves and our own people. The
government has to be involved in everything, even if it's

(29:20):
just you know, money wise, it's like, hey, you guys
are like doing this. We can make money of that.
Give us, give us.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Some We are class as private members association, which means
is that that we can trade between each other and
it's private. We don't need to show it. So you know,
as our communities grow, we can function between ourselves. And

(29:52):
this is one layer of coming you know, out of
their system. However, you know members the are part of
the community assemblies that they still have jobs. That's still
you know, in this system. So this is this one
leg out, one leg in situation. But you know, to

(30:14):
this point, this is why we need to grow. We
need to get more numbers. We need to get more
assemblies to push our way of life and our customs
and traditions and our jurisdictions, which is a very very
important thing. But as a pm A, we can trade

(30:38):
between each other quite happily in the private you know,
it's it's not something that's trackable. You know, as you said,
government wants everything. You grow a row of potatoes and
you get like, you know, six bags of potatoes, the
government's going to want one one and a half of that.

(31:01):
It's you know, not in a private members association thing.
I'm just you know, talking theoretically in you know, more
of their sort of corporate and citizen sense. You know,
with this this number, the registration, you know, the birth
certificate we have here. I know this, this has been said.

(31:25):
I think it's seven seven years and a few months.
If you have not registered, the state cannot touch your children.
They had, they wouldn't have jurisdiction over it. This was
this was verified. I was having a meal with some

(31:47):
friends and one of the one of the guys is
an ex police officer, ex armed officer. He was saying
in the conversation that he, you know, he knows about
this that that you know, basically the social services can't
touch unregistered children. So this registration is very very important

(32:12):
to that. You know, like a registered car, if it
was your own property and not registered to them, then
theoretically can they take it from you because it would
be stealing it, says on the v five that you know,
you are the regised keeper, not the owner when you

(32:33):
when you so, what what's that all about? So you
go and buy a car and then you become the
keeper of it and not a bloody owner. So you
know this, this whole registry of you know, the conspiracy theorists,
and I would probably cust myself amongst amongst them a
little bit. But yeah, they would say, well, everything you register,

(32:55):
you give away. You know, regis regius the Crown corporation.
You know, you have a number, you know, attached to everything,
driving license, your birth certificate, passport and generally driving license
and passport comes in all caps names as well, so

(33:19):
you know what other all caps, what other things are
written in all caps? And you would find that companies
are so you would you would, you would could say that,
you know, all right, we're become companies, we become dead entities.
You know, we've given ourselves over. And you know there's

(33:39):
there's much to be said on how they actually do that.
But you know, looking sort of at this registry thing,
so de register, get out the voting system, don't vote,
take yourself off, you know, don't give you could don't
give you consent, don't give your energy, you know, to

(34:01):
it and you know, unpick yourself from this this this
mess really, because that's what it is. It's just a
you know, I don't know prism without out bars really
isn't it. It's just society citizenship and you know everything

(34:24):
that goes with it is just a way for them
to extract money from you. Tell you what to do,
you know, keep off the grass, don't drive past thirty
mile an hour? You know, you know, of course I
think it's we're referred to as infants and as commoners.

(34:44):
You know, when we you know, we vote, we become
a commoner, and you know we've treated as infants. You know,
we're getting a slap on the wrist and you know
for doing things when and you know, like a fine
two hit us in our pocket. You know, okay, Well,

(35:05):
you know, if you are you know, speeding through a
thirty mile hour limit, let's say, and there is no
one about who have you actually hurt? You know, where's
the harm? Where is the loss? Where is the victim?
And if you have broken a rule? Then really is

(35:26):
it finable or is it just to say, look, you know,
just steady up. You know there might be, you know,
children about something like that you might knock over. Fair enough,
we're not infants, you know, we don't need to be
the way that we are. But it's all about corporations
and money. It's what it seems to be. And I

(35:48):
think Mussolini coined it. I think this the I think
he founded fascism, but he Hey, I can't remember the
exact statement he come out with. It was something about,
you know, it's not fascism, it's it's corporatism. And this
is what we're sort of seeing, you know, these corporations

(36:09):
that are you know, really sticking the needle into us,
you know, always extracting money and you know, using thugs
to enforce it, enforce the you know, the extraction, which
is you know, it's it's not good. Need to be

(36:31):
out of this, or we need to you know, protect
ourselves against this.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
You said, the definition of a crime is something that
affects somebody else in a negative way, isn't it. So
if you're on your own and let's just take the
speed and think again, if you're doing thirty five in
the thirty there's nobody about for miles and you get
flashed by a camera, you technically, haven't really committed a
crime against anybody else, You've committed it against the state.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
Yeah, exactly, And.

Speaker 5 (37:03):
That's what the state does.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
It doesn't matter what what kind of government they say
they are, democratic, communists, whatever they say they are, they're
all exactly the same. Everybody has to pay. Everyone's going
to get rinsed. Whatever you make, we're going to take
away from you, and you're never going to really see
that again. That's just basically what the new idea of

(37:27):
government seems to be.

Speaker 5 (37:29):
Traffic law and traffic fines. I can definitely, I can
definitely speak on I have worked for you know, like
local local government, local more localized law enforcement. I'm, you know,
gonna do that again actually mainly because of you know,

(37:50):
the money and the benefits. I'll be honest, I'll bet
it's just it's a very good job, very good benefits,
very good contract, very good pay.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
And he's stuck in the state. Nick, be careful.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
I will be technically, I eventually I will be sworn in,
So yeah, I'll be working for the state. I'll be
working for the local municipality.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Don't worry, I'll suck him by the nick. Hey.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
The thing is especially for.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Like government as a whole, doesn't matter if it's if
it's local or national, you know, traffic fines or parking fines.
It's it's not even punishment, it's income. And like that's
I I remember when you know, I last worked for
for you know, municipality. I'm not gonna say the name here,

(39:00):
but they they told us that we're writing too little tickets.
But you know, it's it's not about you know, chasing payments.
It's not like actively actively hunting those who haven't paid

(39:20):
for their parking or actively you know making you know,
looking at or like looking for kids on their bikes
with their phone in their hands. It's not not about
actively doing that. But we are writing too little tickets,
so we have too little, you know, too little income
for the city. So if you could please just work

(39:42):
a little harder, It's like that's it's all fucking politics
as well.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Warden were stein no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (39:54):
I was thinking not that I was gonna say, no,
definitely not the viewers really starting Hey, then for.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
A second, I'll I'll say I have I have given
out my my fair share of tickets, received my fair
share of tickets.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
I like speed, I can't help it.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Well, yeah, even on a national level. It started out
first as kind of a kind of punishment in need,
like hey, you've been speeding. You know, here's a ticket
because you know you've broken not even a law, but

(40:35):
like more of a rule. It's not even a law
that you're not allowed to speed. It just says like
this sign here says that you're not allowed to drive
over one hundred kilometers an hour. H okay cool, but
why well because we decided that that is what that
sign means. Yes, sure, okay, yeah, so there's it's it's

(40:57):
a rule, not a law. You're enforcing rules, not laws.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Cool, But it.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
Used to used to be like, you know, punishment, because
I mean, if everybody is like speeding and not holding
themselves to you know, traffic decency, it's it's fucking chaos
on the roads. Then they saw how how lucrative it

(41:24):
actually is and how much money was you know, to
be gained with it. So now there are traffic cameras everywhere,
fucking cop cars with fucking radar guns, like hiding like places,
and you're just like flooring it. You're like, oh yeah, speed, motherfucker's.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Damn.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
And it's another seventy bucks or one hundred and seventy.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
Sometimes we get points as well.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
We can collect points over yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Unfortunately they don't make prizes.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
No, they're not overhead.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Now you get to year ban if you get too
many of them over yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:02):
I've said before, like it would be awesome if it's
like the kind of like the YouTube model that you
get a plaque when you've like reached a certain amount
of fine.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
This is my twelve point plaque.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
Yeah, at least you've got something to show for it
other than an empty brank account.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
We get no driving license, so you've basically got something
not to show for it because you lose your license,
you lose your car, so you're saving money you have.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
Fair enough, but like that's that's also that's also a
big thing. Like they can take away your your license,
Like why because they decided that you've done too much wrong.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Well, and that's that's where I like, like I do
love the idea of you, like your your community like
having their own their own law enforcement, which is basically
you know, just based around common sense. Really, like that's
that's all we we should need, really, you know, like

(43:09):
thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not kill.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
I mean, yeah, those are the basic laws, aren't they
basic everyone's whole life exactly.

Speaker 5 (43:18):
It's the yeah, a law of nature, and like if
you're gonna do those heinous things, then you know at
least like have it be in in self defense. No
eye for an eye if you will, you know, don't
turn the other cheek, like punch the motherfucker back. That's
the heathen mindset.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
And you're aggressive aggressive man, It's.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
It's like that's that's that's natural law to me as well.
Like guess what you see in nature right when to
predators go at it. It's not like you know, plaw
and it's like, oh no place. I may be a tiger,
I may be a ferocious apex predator, but I you know,
peace and love, like.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
No, just fucking.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Whoever it gets wounded worse.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
Really your pagan inside you coming out in this time.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
Yeah, inside, it's a very pagan mindset.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
He's going to come off in a minute and shield
and axe is going to come out and he's going
to I'm going to I'll have to censor it for
YouTube if.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Oh god, yeah, not have another TikTok.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
We've already been banned from TikTok's not do that again.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Come on, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I don't know what I came onto on that day,
to be honest, but it lasted what was it, twelve minutes?

Speaker 4 (44:45):
It was twelve minutes and then banned for second days.

Speaker 5 (44:48):
Yeah, yeah, no, but so god, we were way off track.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Pulling it pulling it back here. One thing I've just
thought is like in this country, like in the UK,
probably the same for you over there. Stand I know
you're you're about Are you bigger than us or smaller?

Speaker 5 (45:10):
Smaller?

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Way, You're smaller than us, aren't you. We've always had
in the UK this issue with the North and South divide.
The South is completely different to the north of the country.
We have different needs, we have different requirements up here
compared to the South. And Nick, obviously you're in the north,
being in Lincolnshire East East. Yeah, I'm on the other side.

(45:35):
I'm on the nice side. You're on the other side.
We'll say, yeah, we'll say that. I don't want to
say the horrible side. It's lovely over there, but we'll
just say that. But the needs are different regionally in
this country. You could even go down to the county side.
Lincolnshire has different needs than what my county needs, and

(45:58):
your model of what you want to do with this
is that what you want to do is you look
after your own sort of like region, your own area,
your own village, and if you have needs that are
greater than that village, you go to a more higher
up region kind of thing. Are you looking at the dutchy's,

(46:20):
county's Kingdom's kind of situation?

Speaker 4 (46:24):
Yeah, we're sort of we're looking at areas or regions
as you would say. But I mean this is a
sort of an organic process, you know, as as we
as we grow. I mean we're unified as one community

(46:45):
assembly of the British Isles, so we're unified under that,
under that umbrella, as you say, like the needs for
Lincolnshire would be different than the need for and Shier
and the needs for for Wales that have a different

(47:08):
set of parameters too, you know, to to look at
perhaps the Cornwall different game London or the London area.
Actually don't know what county that falls under the I
don't know what Hartfordshire or something like that. I'm not
too no idea that multiple yeah, could well could well be,

(47:30):
couldn't it. But yeah, it's down to like like with
we have Kerno, we have the the putting together of Cornwall, Devon,
Somerset and Dorset have come together to form Kerno, the

(47:56):
region of Kernos. This is going back to the breath
one nick you know, where Kerno was comprised of many
different areas. So this was an agreement from the assemblies
of those counties and Cornwall be in its own country

(48:16):
to come together to re establish Kerner. And this is
what's happened. And now the Cornish have their jurisdiction, but
they are gaining or have gained a lawful dominion in
the area or region as of Kerna. And this is

(48:43):
ancient law of where you'd have a right developed from
one hundred. You may know about the term one hundreds
or hundreds that was used in I think Cornwall was
split into hundreds at one point before they supposedly took

(49:08):
it to England, and parts of England were known as hundreds.
But the hundred one hundred people standing in a county
or an area shouldered shoulder develops right, and the three
hundred develops a jurisdiction and the ability or the allowance

(49:32):
for court and a six hundred standing shoulder to shoulder
brings the process of dominion. This, you know, this is
going back to customs and traditions and these are things
that can't be taken away. They would probably the system

(49:54):
would say, no, that's not right. You know, we're not
going to look at that. But that's up to them.
That's there, that's their belief.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Is that anything to do with the Magna carta because
you hear a lot of people talking about the Magna
carta and common law and.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
Right, I mean this the Magna Carta is twelve fifteen.
I mean we're talking sort of nine hundreds or eight
nine hundreds, way before the Magna carta. So this is
you know, going back in time. Really ten sixty six
was probably a turning point where you had William Conqueror

(50:34):
and probably the start of I think there was before
and I think before William it was we had things
like earldoms, but they became counties. After William the Conqueror,
you had Magna Carta that was put in place by

(50:55):
the barons. Now, I don't know what I know. People
stand by the Magna Carta because you know, it has
some things in there that that are quite good, but
there is a contention with it. Obviously with the king.

(51:17):
King John was supposedly held at.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
Sort point I was going to say under duress.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Was signed under duress? But however he was he was
putting duress on the people. But then did the people
you know, was it the barons that just said we
were going to do this or did they you know,
go around the country and ask the people. So I
don't know, you know, really sort of how this sits,

(51:47):
and you know, without sort of being contentious and probably
giving my thought processes to it that I don't know
if it really does have a standing or not. So,
but you know, going back before Magna Carta and having

(52:11):
you know, the customs and traditions that you know, define
us and define how we live, I don't think we
can go wrong. Whereas you have documentation that you know,
we we have to question who wrote it, why was
it written, what authority did they have, and you know,

(52:34):
was it really written for something as it says. You
know that there are historical documents that you would say,
would excuse me, would form a constitutional element, but no
constitution such because there is no codified constitution for England

(52:58):
or for Britain. But there are certainly elements documentation that
that give us or propose certain rights for the people,
and you know, we can, we can stand by it.
But then, you know, do we really know necessarily what

(53:19):
intention who wrote them and what real intention they had
that that you know, we I think we have to
be realistic in asking that question that I don't know
that there is two ways of looking at things, aren't
they I would.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Go problem with England and it's the problem i'd say
with Europe as well. There was so much warfare. They
conquered them, they conquered these, they broke away from them,
and especially in England for such a small island, we've
had so many different cultures coming into wards. We were
called this at one time, we were called that. At

(54:01):
another time we had Wessex was a kingdom, and then
we had Vikings in your Viking picked land up in
Scotland and we had all kinds of things going on,
and we took our laws from whoever was there at
the time, and it's like we just took the best
bits like this, this, this, this and this. But the

(54:23):
government at the moment, like we were saying before, it's
just taking what it wants. It doesn't give anything back.
And that's obviously the situation everyone's in over here at
the moment. It's just the people aren't getting anything back.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
We're being spiritually crushed, I think, along with you know,
with having sort of finances depleted and you know, just
I don't know, it's really like catle I think, yeah,
and you know, the using going back to the documents,

(55:00):
I mean, using certain documentation and legislations and things and
and things that that you know, you would say a
constitutional elements, well why not. But you know, still I
think we have to not drown in a seat of paper.

(55:24):
And you know, just really you know, as long as
we know who we are, you know, and sort of
stand that way, I think you know, we'd formed the
better standing than you know, probably trying to navigate this,
you know, the the world of documents. However, for the

(55:46):
you know, for the moment, it's all legislation. There's legislation
that you know, the you know the rules, but you know,
we we we have to establish who we are the
you know, the law against legislation and going back to
this speeding you know, an open country road and you're

(56:10):
breaking the limit. Who you are actually harming. You can't
harm the state, you know, you're not you're not killing
the state, or you know, drawing blood on them by
you know, sort of going past a speed camera and
it's not a Well it shows you it's not a
law if the police and an ambulance can go through

(56:33):
it past that speed limit. Because a law affects us
all equally. That is a maxim So how can one
get away with it when another can't? And I know
there has been instances of you know where people are
rushing you know, their partner or child to hospital and

(56:56):
they've been let off the you know, the speeding five. Yeah,
so you know this this is discretionary. So the thing
what I'm saying here is that it can't be a law.
Some law, you know, can cannot really be broken, can it.

Speaker 5 (57:13):
No, That's that's the thing. Like you know, like I said,
you know, police, ambulance, fire department, those are emergency services.
And as we've seen, you know, let's say five six
years ago, in times of emergency, you know, every law

(57:36):
is I don't know, merely a suggestion. You know, in
times of emergency, I think of war times or indeed,
a you know, a global global pandemic, then they can
create well it's not even new new laws because laws
actually have to you know, have to be so in

(58:01):
to be law. They are temporary rulings, but they are
treated as laws. And because it's a emergency situation, you know,
like I said, a global pandemic, war times when you
get you know, martial law. Of course, military law. It's
whatever the military says. And I mean we know the military.

(58:25):
They they do whatever the fuck they want, and who's
going to stop them. They got the guns. But you know,
those those temporary rules, they can be anything as long
as it's the under the guise of you know, for
the greater good. Like it makes me think back of

(58:48):
you know, those those years twenty nineteen twenty twenty here
in the Netherlands, we were treated like fucking children. We
had a nine pm curfew because I don't know that
would help at least diminish the spread of whatever was
going on. It's like, okay, we had here at one

(59:11):
point as well, I think we did. Yeah, but like
if you were caught outside after nine pm, which is
way early, by the way, like for for comparison, like
to here in the Nanlans at the moment, it's like
ten minutes past eight, So like in fifteen minutes, it
would be like nine pm. It's still light outside, yeah,
nine pm. You know, Like I back at my clubbing days,

(59:35):
I woantn't go to the club or the bar before
eleven pm.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
You'd just be waking up at nine o'clock getting ready
to go out.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Drinking at nine.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
Yeah, and like but if you were caught outside, you
were heavily fined. I I remember, like I was. I
lost my job. You know, I was one of many, unfortunately,
so I had to take like odd jobs here and there.
I was selling fruit at one point, yeah, in indoors. Sure,

(01:00:11):
so I had to wear you know, I had to
wear a mask. I flat out fucking refused to. I'm sorry,
I'm not gonna do that. It's not helping, it's it's
it's you know, I'm gonna be very careful with what
I with what I say, because like, actually one of
my videos has been taken down because medical misinformation or

(01:00:32):
YouTube deems medical misinformation. That's a thing we can get
into another time, perhaps. How you know, these big corporations
really have their own laws and rules, and you're just
you know, gonna buy it. Because otherwise, you know, we're
gonna deplatform you. You don't want to be deplatformed. Well,
I got fined, I believe, like seventy seventy five euros

(01:00:54):
because I refuse to hold myself to what was essentially
a tenemporary emergency.

Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
Say, they've got him, They've got THEYD what he was
talking about, and that was it. They've absolutely got him.
Now is he going to come back?

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
Let's see, Yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
He is on this side now. Yeah, I know there's
two of him.

Speaker 5 (01:01:23):
My internet and now we are now my internet freaked
out and spinning too much truth. Uh no, that's that's why.
You know, emergency services, why they why they can do
what they do. Why they can ignore you know, speeding limits,
why they can ignore traffic laws because emergency and then

(01:01:44):
know all the the laws and rulings that are setting
into place do not count. And yeah, it's it's that's
that's going to be. It's going to be taken advantage
of more and more guaranteed because they've you know, the
established or the establishment you know, has seen that they

(01:02:07):
that they can get away with it, that they are
getting away with it. So you know, like who's who's
going to stop them from trying again. And that's why
I think it's nke. It's so important what you are
doing and that your you know, your community is so
incredibly important you actually manage to to separate yourselves. It's

(01:02:28):
just you know, now it's it's a numbers games with
the yours.

Speaker 1 (01:02:33):
Nick, sorry to cut in again. The way it always
seems is when you're look in the movies when there's
been an apocalypse, something's happened, everyone seems to come back
to your system. It always goes back to this is
our community. What does our community need? Our community will
find what we need if we have to go out

(01:02:53):
to another community in trade with that community. So it
always goes back to the system that you are trying.

Speaker 5 (01:03:01):
To use in yours.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
So does that mean that your system is right? And
over time that system gets corrupted by people trying to
take control of everything, and in the end, yours is
actually the correct system to be using?

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Would I would say so now we're not. I don't
know the only ones to have say designed this system.
There was John as John Gilbert is. He has told
me about Hamish Miller. I think he had something very

(01:03:40):
very similar back in the eighties and Sue Cartwright's father,
Jeff Cartwright, now need to be writing this. He wrote.
He was asked, i think by a university to write
what the per fixed society would look like. And what

(01:04:04):
he wrote and you know, put down was basically the
community assembly model. His daughter, Sue is our website editor.
She came on board with the community assemblies and this
this synergy you know, from what her father had done
back in the nineteen late nineteen eighties nineteen nineties had done.

(01:04:30):
And you know she's you know, sort of in the
community assembly herself and this, you know, this sort of
synergy and this this this thing that we have is
not just established by one person's vision. I mean, there
was more people that established the vision of the community

(01:04:54):
assemblies than John. John is just a just like the founder,
a member of it. So you know, the framework that
we have for community coming together and to interact with
one another, to you know, function with each other, to

(01:05:15):
interconnect is pretty much the model I think that will
prevail in because it allows it allows, you know, things
to function. So it doesn't you know, it's not like
saying you have to do this, you have to do that,
you have to do that, because that is then always

(01:05:37):
going to be open to ego and for somebody you know,
to sort of I don't know it causes will cause disharmony,
you know, whereas we have you know, evolvement and organic
growth because we have a framework and a guidance and

(01:05:59):
facilitate is that that have a role to facilitate the
flow of information and too you know, help the their
you know, their members grow and get what they want.
You know this this then stops any hierarchy and you

(01:06:20):
know sort of egos that that would you know, come
about like you know, you sort of see probably some
groups would have a board of governors, but these are
people that are making decisions for others. So what do
you have in a governmental society? You have people that

(01:06:42):
are making decisions for others and being very kind, not
necessarily getting things.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
Right, make mistakes and that's how we learn.

Speaker 4 (01:06:55):
Yeah, which is yeah, and the assemblies and assemblies are
no different in the way that you know, we've made mistakes.
We you know, we're we're human, we're not definitely not perfect,
but you know we are learning from our mistakes, and
you know, we're trying to create harmony, you know, sort
of harmony between people. You know, we're one organization that

(01:07:22):
has many aligned with us, so you know, we're not
just the community assembling in the British Isle, because we
have other organizations that are their organizations. You know, we're
not there to take them over and they're not there
to take us over, but they are like mind, you know,

(01:07:43):
like people of like mind come together. You know, we're
all individual people, but we can you know, follow ideas
and enthusiasms from from others and you know, being in
an organization that allows that function, then you know, I

(01:08:06):
think we can create a very harmonistic approach and you know,
to be able to move forward into you know, a
better state of living certainly, and this is you know,
a vision that John's had. It'd be great to have

(01:08:26):
him speak on on across the Pond because this guy.
I've learned so much from John over the last three
years and it just he's amazingly giving in all aspects,
you know, spiritually, just you know, his work ethic, you know,

(01:08:53):
times when he doesn't sleep, it just works right the
way through. But you know, giving himself financially as well
to get things going because you know he's he is
passionate and adamant about what where we need to be

(01:09:13):
and this is nothing not for his self gratitude. You know,
this is like we're all volunteers and all we want
to see is, you know, is a better society is
not not for riches. It's not for reward, it's not
for accolades, it's not for you titles. Because the thing

(01:09:36):
is is that you you do have people out there
that are making quite a lot of money out of
the freedom movement. But what they probably failed to miss
is that, you know, while they're in it for the
probably giving right information to a point, but not for

(01:09:58):
the right reasons, that their money and riches are going
to be worth nothing, absolutely nothing. If this ship hits
the fan and we're all going to be, doesn't it.
We've got to service, Yeah, we've got to serve humanity
and get us to where we want to be because
you know, money will just be worth nothing, riches, titles,

(01:10:23):
if you know, it gets to where to a point
where we think that it may go. You know, all
of these you know sort of wants for you know,
bigger houses, flash cars, because you have a certain piece
of the puzzle to give, but you're not willing to
give it for the right reasons you are not serving correctly.

(01:10:46):
I think. So, you know, we we need to really
pull together as you know, humanity, you know, whether it's
a community assembly model or something that's similar, it's you know,
people got to get back to the point where we

(01:11:09):
work together, where we love each other, where we can function,
where we can create you know, sort of harmony in
our in our living. If we we we have a
chance certainly to beat these parasites and you know, a

(01:11:30):
star of their energy. But you know, we we've got
to really understand what we're doing, understand who we are,
and just get on with the job. Really, because we
haven't got oodles of time either. This is this is
you know a thing we've not got, you know, years
to waste in thinking well we'll do it tomorrow, or

(01:11:54):
we'll do it the next day, we will do it
the next year. Get it done. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
That clock's at one minute to midnight, and the doomsday
clock is one minute to midnight at the.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
Moment, I mean the time for well us let's say
regular people, more more evolved people perhaps looking at you know,
the normies. We we can definitely consider ourselves more evolved.
It's running well, I don't want to say the time
is running out, but it's running very very shorts. At

(01:12:26):
the very least, you know, we we have to we
have to do it now, because no, these these are
the times to be doing it. You know, we are
on the on the till end of you know, off
the color Yuga. We are on the till end of
the revelations of right now rock however you want to

(01:12:49):
call it, Like I do believe we're at the till end.
That's why everything is.

Speaker 4 (01:12:53):
Blowing up as it is.

Speaker 5 (01:12:55):
I feel like that is a last ditch effort, you know,
like just throw every everything against the wall that we
have and you no hope that at the very least
we can take as many down with us as we can.
And I guess that that would be a great final
question where like just we're past the hour mark for

(01:13:19):
the for the people interested, like like myself, you know,
at my my tribe, tribe with the g or Pagans,
we are trying to to do this as well. We
are trying to create a a tribe, a community that
is separate from from society, from this this system. How

(01:13:43):
would I would want interested? How would a community interested
or a tribe interested go about in in doing this
possibly a way to connect or become part of your community,
but like expand it internet actionally.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
Yeah, yeah, yes to all of those. Yeah. So really
let's say that you know with your you know, with
your tribe and with your community, and you wanted two
integrate with us. So you know, being of like mind,
you know, we would have the conversation. You know that

(01:14:24):
this is what you would like to do. So of
course you know talk to you you know that the
people in in your community if it was if it's
something that they would like to align with us, that
you could create yourself as a community assembly. So it

(01:14:48):
would be of you know, possibly your tribal name or
or where where you're based, and it would just take
three people and those three would for illitate. So it's
just really producing a conduit between the two. So, uh,
you would you would you know, always remain your tribe,

(01:15:12):
you know what you know you are named by that
you would also become part of the community assembly and
whatever you would you know, you want to be named
with as well. So beings that that you sit outside
of the British isles, you would come under the assemblies
of the world, which are you know, the like the

(01:15:35):
countries like Malta, Canada, America, Australia, New Zealand and you
know the countries that are you know up and coming
and waiting to declare there. So beings that you're in
the Netherlands, it could be possible that you could come

(01:15:57):
on as the Community Assembly of the Netherlands and represent that,
but also you know, still representing your community assembly as
your tribe as well. So that the countries are important
to have the you know, the status of a country

(01:16:18):
as in also as a status of a county. And
then the the like the core that sits inside that
is is the local local communities, but you know, as
like a framework, the assembly model and the word assembly

(01:16:40):
is important as well, so that produces a consensus and
an authority. You know, when people come together, they start
to associate with each other and then you know, when
they come together in assembly, they are coming together or
a purpose. And this is why we use a you

(01:17:05):
know community assembly assemblance in the community or the assemblance
of the community. It gives it a you know, sort
of an authority consensus of you know, of that area.
This is you know why we we would sort of

(01:17:25):
start with the country and the county and then you
know the local assemblies. The local assemblies have the greater
power in this because of course it's you know, it's
a member member's base, so you know, for anybody initially
wanting to join the community assemblies, it's just really a

(01:17:47):
record on our website. So it would, you know, onto
the website, you would read what we do. If it resonates,
you would go to the joint pay Joy paid, you
would read what's there, and importantly the declaration to natural
law because you would have to abide by that before

(01:18:11):
you would enter. You know your name, your email address,
your phone number. We don't have, We don't need to
know your physical address. It is just a record. You
would get a record of the declaration and the oath,

(01:18:32):
which is important as well because it is recording your
standing as a being of flesh blood and that you
have taken an oath to natural law and that that
is important. So there is a physical record of that.
We do have trusts as well. So we have trusts

(01:18:57):
that were written written up by a good friend of
ours in New Zealand who is Mary Alder, and he's
written trust for us and other documentation that also layers
a standing with that as well.

Speaker 5 (01:19:14):
Awesome, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:19:16):
We'll link a lot in the description as well.

Speaker 5 (01:19:18):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely no, awesome, thank you, thank you very
much for this. Yeah, well for this, this whole, this
whole talk for this this. You know, that's a bit
of information. Of course, I mean three people, like with myself,
I do know two other people already who will definitely
sign on. I know, like a whole bunch of pagans,
a whole bunch of heathens, of course, who will who

(01:19:41):
would love to who would love.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
To sign on?

Speaker 5 (01:19:44):
Like from from the here, from the Netherlands. If I'm
gonna be the one initiating it, it's gonna.

Speaker 4 (01:19:50):
Be a whole bunch of pagans. What what I can say,
what what we can actually do is if you wanted
to get to get everybody together from the Netherlands, we
could have a zoom call with John and you can
ask him from the say from the main man himself,

(01:20:11):
and he does group zooms all of the time. He's
he's a busy man, but he you know, we can
sort this problem.

Speaker 5 (01:20:22):
Yeah, that would be that would be absolutely amazing. I
I know of well two people who are gonna gonna
join right away, and I think if I yeah, I
know a whole bunch of people. I know, like, I'm
definitely to.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Make shirts mandatory shirts are mandatory.

Speaker 5 (01:20:40):
That's minus I will go with. I know, I definitely
know a bunch of a bunch of Pagans in the
in the US. One who from you know, from the
tribe has already started with you know, like legally separating,

(01:21:05):
separating the tribe. He was actually pretty recently it was
gonna like finally, I mean that's that's more personal, I believe,
but finally by a piece of land that he has
always been wanting, uh, the the grove of Odin. It
is like that's the the like the legal side of
the trap of the ground Pagans that we are trying

(01:21:25):
to to separate. It's already registered as a at least
registered in the US as a religious community where we're
trying to I mean, I have been very much you know,
liking us, liking in that unfortunately, but I was, I

(01:21:47):
am definitely gonna gonna send this and you know, all
the information to him because he is all about that.
He's got absolutely fun love it and it would be
awesome if we can do it, like do it in
the three like three parts of the Western world, you know, US, UK, Mainland, Europe. Yeah,

(01:22:08):
but yeah, we'll we'll talk about we'll talk more about
that in private of course.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
Excellent. Yeah, this this is good. Yeah, this is And
you know, I think that that you know, with the
pagan community, it would be a good fit because you know,
it has the the nature that you know, the the
the spiritualism. You know, this we're not you bound by

(01:22:34):
you know, sort of a particular religion or any affiliation
in the community assemblies because you know, this is about
bringing everybody to everybody together and you know of like mind.
And course I'm no expert on on pagan This is

(01:22:55):
something that I'm learning over the over the years. But
it feels akin to me. You know, this is this
I really feel grounded with what I've learned and what
I've been been taught and it feels it does feel right,
and I you know, I will I will never stop,

(01:23:17):
never stop you know, learning. You know, I'm understanding the
days of the week, you know, Moon Day, Sunday, Sunday,
Moon Day, Tears Day, Odin's Day, Thursday, and Freyer's Day. Yeah,

(01:23:38):
this is and it feels you know, it feels right
and you know, the sort of other teachings from around
the world. I can see like a synergy, you know,
going on on with that as well. And yeah, I
think I think your friends are gonna like.

Speaker 5 (01:24:02):
Yeah, I'm sure they will. I'm sure they will. You know,
tribal living, That's that's how the Pagans, you know, it's
how our ancestors have always lived. It's you know, there's
so many different pagan communities, so it's it's very ingrained
into well, into Paganism as as a whole. Really, so yeah,

(01:24:27):
well I can see how you how you find common
ground in that.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:24:37):
And and with all this said, any like, do you
do you have any any last words, any less, less commons,
less remarks.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
What would say is what I said earlier on humans
as a society, going way way back, we're always tribal paganism,
like you're saying, their style, A lot of Christianity, a
lot of their beliefs came from Paganism. To try and
integrate the Pagans into Christianity. It's how everyone was merged together.

(01:25:12):
It's why a lot of the religions come from a
lot of other religions, if you know what I mean.
It's like a conglomerate of things to bring people into
the fold. Tribalism is the way humanity was designed to work.
We're a communal species. We work within our community. If

(01:25:33):
this community needs anything, we go out and find it
from another community. Services, goods were traded. It's how we
get back to that in a way that works in
the society. That is the difficult part, because it is
all being stopped from above and doing it in small

(01:25:54):
steps like this, like Nicky's doing and like the group
is doing. It's the right way to go. Everyone together
as one, stop separating everybody. Everybody separated at the moment.
You're this person, this person, this person that. I don't
care if you worship a kit cat or a can
of coke. I don't care what you worship. If you're

(01:26:17):
if you want to come and help the community, come
and do it. And that that's how it should be.
That's how humanity should actually be. There's my speech for
the week.

Speaker 4 (01:26:28):
Harmony.

Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
Yeah, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
That's new.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
But hey, you know, to each when you're hungry, you'll
worship a kit cat. Believe. I mean, like we got
the flying spaghetti monsters, so like why the fuck? Yeah?
With with all of this, all of this, all this done,
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