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July 16, 2025 100 mins
Were there giants in ancient North America? Did these towering beings walk the same soil we now call home? In this episode, we dive deep into one of the most intriguing legends that bridges myth, archaeology, and biblical history: the mysterious giants said to have roamed the continent. We explore the controversial reports of giant skeletons unearthed in the 19th century, Native American legends of colossal beings, and the possibility that these giants were none other than the Nephilim—those enigmatic figures from the Book of Genesis. Were these giants protectors or destroyers? Guardians of ancient knowledge or symbols of divine punishment? And if they truly existed… where did they go? Join us as we investigate:
  • Giant remains and suppressed archaeology
  • Connections between the Nephilim and North American legends
  • The moral nature of these giants: good, evil, or misunderstood?
  • Why they vanished—and who might have wanted them erased from history
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:59):
Now, Hello, Jordan, how are you, my friend?

Speaker 4 (01:04):
I'm great, Thank you guy. It's a pleasure to be
back on.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, it's good to have you back on. How are
you doing up north?

Speaker 4 (01:12):
It's been we've had a good sunny few days, but today,
unfortunately it's started ruining. They've been blasting us with clouds
in the sky.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Oh, blessed them. They're very kind, aren't they. They've got
our best interests at heart. They've got our best interest
at heart. So today we're going to be talking about giants.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Yes, yes, we are.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
You've been doing a little bit of dig in and
I know you've got well you're getting a bit of
a library on the go now, aren't you. You've got
of old books and references.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, and it's only getting older my collection currently now
my oldest book is seventeen thirty eight, so I've got
one getting restored at the moment. That's from nine from
sixteen ninety five.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Wow, what's that called?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I'm not exactly showing the name after the check, but
it's because to you, like the other ones, geographical. So
that'll We're very excited.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yes, that's brilliant. I look forward to hearing about that
then about month, right, but not long. We we sort
of talk about giants quite a bit, don't we. It
comes up in photographs and stuff. Whenever we're talking about tartaria.
We see images of giants, We think of giants. We
look at the huge doors and the windows that are

(02:28):
too high for us to look out of. But it's
not something that I've actually done a podcast or an
in depth video about. So it's a kind of this
is a first, and I think it's something people are
interested in. I said to you before I hit record,
especially people that that buy and consume Himalayan salt. I

(02:53):
wonder if they know what actually they're ingesting.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
You take a look at a picture of the mark
where they've come from, and it seems very clear what
it is.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Yeah, I've seen some of I've seen some large lumps
with a lay and salt be removed and it looks
like a rack of ribs. Yeah, it does really see
what it is.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
If you've not seen pictures of it, then you you
can't comprehend it that out similar it looks to say
it's we think it's just salt. Yeah, but it looks
much different than the sea salt.

Speaker 3 (03:27):
Yeah. If any, if any people knew exactly what it was,
it makes you wonder whether or not it would put
them off using it, or whether or not they'd see
that there are actual benefits to using it. Still, I
don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:39):
I don't think if it is giant blood and part
of giants in general, I don't think i'll bother them.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Of people in.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
This current day and age, no, everyone seems to be desensitized.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Yeah. Yeah, And I think if you're prepared to eat
McDonald's or KFC or something, then you know, I mean, ultimately,
people are starting to become more suspicious about what's in
fast food, and I think we kind of I don't
know what we can and can't say on YouTube, but
I think most people know that, well, most people that

(04:16):
are going to watch this will know that there's something
in McDonald's that perhaps would make us cannibals without knowing.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Yeah, it doesn't say much looking into either to find
the answers.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Yeah. Yeah, the amount of I think the amount of
cows they would need to produce the amount of burgers
they put out doesn't stack up.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Yeah, you just need some basic maths.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Mean, yeah, but there's something funky going on and we've
gotten off a.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Dungeon definitely is. Yeah, so obviously giants, you know. For me,
it goes back to the beginning of time. You know,
the Nephelim that was Genesis six four and number thirteen
thirty three, but it didn't data size. And then the
Anakim again numbers and I can never pronounce it, but

(05:05):
it's due Teronomy Deuteronomy, and that didn't say just says
very tall or men of great size descended of anak
associated with an Nephilim. So we know from biblical terms
that you know, the Nephelim and the Anakin. Anakin were giant,
but of course it's considered to be almost mythology myth.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
Well, we've got to think back to the first first
time you ever heard of a giant, and that for
me has got to be Jack and the bean Stock.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Jack and the bean Stoll.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
It's a child's story. So when you're a child, you've
already got when you think about it, they're already in
planting you. They're telling you about giant sport. It's just
a fairy tale, a story, so they're already from when
you're young, you've got that idea that it's not real,
just the story, so you don't. Well for me until
now me later years, I never really looked into it further,

(06:02):
like you see them on films and stuff, and I
never thought about it just giants. But recently, since looking
into tartary real in reading me books, I've found numerous
references to giants. I mean, these are geographical dictionaries. They're
not fictional books. They're not made to tell stories. They're
made to inform the reader of places in the world.

(06:23):
There's no reason to mention anything fictional. Well, some of
the references say I'll show them up after when I'm
going for but just locations where the first discoverers found giants.
It's very interesting. So I will look into giants a
bit more here. Like I said, with the Nephelin and

(06:44):
Greek mythology, they have the Titans, yes, and Zeus, Atlas
and Hercules are all depicted all the statues. They are
very large. And the Titans in Greek mythology could be
another version of the Nephelin.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Yeah, yeah, it could well be. Yeah, because obviously we
you know that, like you said with Jack and the
bean Stalk, we are introduced to them from a very
young age, but they always come across as being evil
or nefarious. I don't think that that's going to be
the case. I just think that whenever, whenever there is

(07:22):
something they don't want us to associate with or they
don't want us to you know, when they want to
discredit something, the easiest way to do that is to
say that they're evil.

Speaker 5 (07:36):
There's just paint a terrible picture of them.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Like they've done with dragons. Yeah, you know, and we've
got the story in the Bible of David and Goliath,
and you know, how do we know really which one
was good and which one was bad. It's always the
giant that seems to be, you know, the bad guy.
To speak but yeah, in obviously the Titans, Typhon, in

(08:02):
Greek Cyclops. There are a few, I think, and they
appear everywhere, not just in Greek mythology. But you know,
we've got biblical giants, mythological giants, Greek, Norse, Irish.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Every religion, every region in the world as stories of.

Speaker 5 (08:21):
Of giants and giant bones.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yes, bound, yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
I think. I think the giant bones when they find
a giant femur or something like that, then then they'll say,
well that that was part of a dinosaur, and I think.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
That I totally agree. Well, especially when you see these
old newspaper articles from the late eighteen early nineteen. I've
got a few of them to show as well. Yeah,
well they all most of them mentioned that the Smithsonian
are coming and the purchase the bones, and then you
are now where are the bones?

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah? Where are the The Smithsonians are really good at
hiding things. They often people have contacted them to find
out what happened to something that they or perhaps someone
before there may be a parent or grandparent, gave to
the Smithsonians Institute, and they'll say that they've lost it,
or it's in a building that's got an asbestos issue.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
You can't go it.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Yeah, and they do that all the time, and they've
buried so much. I'd love to get in there. There's
I don't know if you've ever seen the film Night
at the Museum Ben Stiller. Yeah, that's the actor. The
one of them is based at the Smithsonians and that's fascinating.
Abraham Lincoln gets up and he's you know, the huge

(09:45):
stone statue of Yeah, and he gets up and sort
of gets involved, gets stuck in.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
I'm not doing it for a while.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Yeah, it's worth watching that. I watched it again recently.
But everything's in plain sight. It's a little bit like
we're gonna go for a tangent again. It's a bit
like Back to the Future when you Back to the
Future and the first film and they rig up the
you know, an incredible tartarian building with a clock tower.

(10:14):
They rig it up to when the lightning hits the
top of the tower, they can charge.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
The I've never even thought before.

Speaker 3 (10:21):
It's not in plain sight. Energy from the ether and
a tartarian building. It's all there. If you want to
see it, you got the bright eyes for it. Yeah,
and I think that it's I have this conversation quite
a lot with people. If you could go back to
some of the places you've seen over the years with

(10:42):
what you know.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Now a totally different one, totally.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
You'd see everything in a different light, wouldn't you. So
what have you got to share with us? Then? What
have you been digging?

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Well, quite a few things reverycentwhere. But in terms of giants,
Ralph Gliddon don't know if you've heard of Ralph Glidden. No,
Ralph Glidden, Well, in the eighteen hundreds he was he
had his own museum and he found a lot of
giant bonds on Catalina Island, nick off the coast of California,

(11:21):
and he claimed to have found and there's a lot
of newspaper clippings show you later claimed to have found
over three thousand skeletons. But the average height of these
skeletons were seven to nine feet top.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
And what happened to them? Do we know? Is that
smithsonians again?

Speaker 4 (11:40):
When he died, he sold his collection for five thousand
dollars because no one wanted to buy it, and nothing.

Speaker 5 (11:48):
No one knows where he's what's left, No one knows
where it is.

Speaker 4 (11:52):
So probably the Smith's owning all that they found, I
think a few years later in a museum near Cattile
in her Island where they had a they had a box,
found a box and in that box with some old
photographs and there's a couple of photographs of him next
to dig sites where he's got pictures of him next

(12:12):
to the bombs still in the ground so you can
see them. Ralph Gliddon, Yeah, very interesting.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
I've not heard of that one. That's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
And he was under the assumption that living on that
island was an ancient race of giant people.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
I don't know if you remember, but I talked about
the Solomon Islands in my first book and there was
a story about there being well not not necessarily a story,
but this is what the tribes, they're the indigenous people
on Solomon Islands used to say all the time that

(12:55):
there were giants that once roamed freely, but something happened
and they all went into caves. They all went kind
of underground, and there was there was one particular girl
that one day she was taken m hmm. I think
in the middle of the night she was taken and
they assumed that she'd you know, they knew the giants,

(13:18):
these elders knew that the giants had taken her. They
assumed that was it. They weren't going to see her again.
And about three years later, she came back into the
village one evening and she just looked horrific. She was
in a really bad state, sort of catatonic. She couldn't

(13:39):
talk anymore, you know, she was almost it was almost
like she had gone feral, I suppose for one of better.
And what they realized, what they could see straight away,
is that she was pregnant. And she stayed with the elder.

(14:00):
She stayed with the with the village, and they knew
that the giant had, you know, had sex with her.
And this baby was born prematurely. It was it was big.
You know, she was in quite an ordeal getting the
baby out, and it was obviously very much. It was
born prematurely, fortunately so she could actually deliver it. And

(14:24):
it didn't look right. Red hair, shocking red hair, green eyes,
and just looked very different. And it grew quickly and
by the time it was sort of three or four
years old, it was it was big, and one of
the elders killed it.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
Yeah, I think I've heard that before, you know.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Yeah, and they're so interested. They said to the elder,
you know, why did you do that? Why did you
kill the child? And and he said, because I didn't
want history to repeat itself. And this was written about
by an Australia helicopter pilot. He'd gone out to the

(15:03):
Solomon Islands and and kind of joined the tribe if
you like, and settled with them, and he wrote a book.
And he wrote a book about the giants and about
the stories and this girl in particular. You can buy it.
I can't remember what it's cool, but I did reference
it in my book, but it's it's something you can
get on Amazon. And this is quite recent. Yeah, this

(15:27):
isn't like years and years ago. This is relatively recent.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I have to look into that to get me on
on that book. I think.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
I always think when I think of giants, I instantly
see red hair.

Speaker 4 (15:38):
Well, have your heard of love Lock Cave?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Absolutely, yeah, Well they found the stories about red love
Lock Cave are that there were giants with red hair,
and we've got old show later of the handprint that's
left in there. Because the story goals that they blocked
the entrance and set them on firing side. Yeah, and
there looks to be a charred hampering on one of

(16:04):
the rocks. Oh well, so I've got a photo that
show after.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Yeah, yeah, well yeah, well do you want to show
us what you've got now? I mean, if you've got
anything you want to share far away? All right, got
to do this, we'll I'm never any good at screen sharing,
are we on? No? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (16:29):
No, here we go, right old portrait.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Oh brilliant, that's great. Yeah. Which it's hard to do it,
isn't it without actually showing everybody you're into our bloody library.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Yeah, I know, a bottle was on it already.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
But here is the quote. So these are from a
book called Because the Tea or Newsman's Interpreter by Lawrence Ecord,
nineteen thirty. So this was the first reference I came
across in terms of giants in a place called a
mimes where a race of giants dwelling east of the

(17:13):
desert of Piran so ams are the race of giants
itself like living in the desert, just east of the desert.
And then this other reference. The viewers composite and read
them if they're like and this one.

Speaker 5 (17:33):
Here, I'll get rid of you.

Speaker 4 (17:39):
Patagonia, vast country in South America which reaches to the
from the straits of mcgellan to the what that would
be rivers the River La Plato. The first discoverers found
giants here Christ So what else? That only means one thing,
exactly what it said. We never talked about anything like this.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
No, we're not, No, we we are. We are. Well,
we're kind of brainwashed into thinking that they're mythological. They
don't exist.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Yeah, it's just fairy tales. And this is in a
different book, This Big Bone Creek. If it isn't what
exactly what it's called, I'm going to show you in
a minute, but it's in a different book.

Speaker 5 (18:27):
This one is.

Speaker 4 (18:28):
I think this is the Universal Gazettier by John Walker,
seventeen ninety eight. So getting a bit older, a bit newer, sorry,
but big big bone links on each side. So this
is a salt this is describing. This is in the
Whole Heart in Ohio Salt Banks. So you can read

(18:52):
through there. The interesting bit gets as we get towards
the end. It's about right.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
A thigh bone found here by General Parsons measured forty
nine inches in length. Mister Jefferson, who examined the skeleton
of one of these animals, says, the bones be speak
of an animal five or six times the entire volume
of an elephant.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Wow, I don't incredible.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
I can't even comprehend an animal that side.

Speaker 4 (19:23):
I don't think there is an animal that side a
large not six times the size of an elephant.

Speaker 3 (19:30):
No, I mean looking at the you said the thigh
bone there, what was it? Forty nine inches?

Speaker 5 (19:35):
Forty nine inches yah, big fireball.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, forty nine inches bloody hell. I mean that's going
to be sort of over four times the average size
of a thigh bone, surely. Yeah, So what would that
make them? I mean, they've got to be sort of
you know, what are we talking? We're talking over twenty
feet tool, aren't we?

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Oh? Easily I would imagine by the lake, Doctor Hunter, London.
So this isn't This isn't just skeptical. This isn't just like,
I can't remember the word I'm looking for. Is, But
it's not. It's this is real. This is is true
at the time this was written. That's exactly the definition

(20:17):
of this place that we've got proper official people involved.
It sounds like I've not looked into Doctor Hunter of London,
but be interesting to see. Yeah, if you find any
articles he's written about them.

Speaker 5 (20:30):
Yeah, anyway, so many things to look into.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
God, I'm rid of that.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
So I'm guessing. I'm guessing looking at it. Yeah, Minnesota,
say this is America again. A lot of them seem
to be in America, don't they? An awful lot of them.

Speaker 4 (20:52):
Yes, they do.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Well, I wonder what happened to those. I supposed the
remains of those were prehistoric.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
Nearly twice the size of an order ordinary man's teeth.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
M bloody hell, eight eight feet tall. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
And then when you when you start to consider the
idea of giants, then you can start to understand these
old structures, because you've got I'll come back on camera
a minute.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
I've got a lot more.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Of these will go through after everyone. I'll come back
on camera. Semi sentiments.

Speaker 3 (21:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
All right, back, Well, Yeah, these old buildings. When we
look at these old buildings and the doorways are massive,
They've got huge steps going up towards them. When you
start to realize that giants were real, then they start
to make sense. Yeah, and the huge doorways, I mean alone,

(21:55):
it's a big enough giveaway that someone a lot bigger
than people, a lot bigger than us, have been here
yeah before us.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
Yeah, yeah, I think so. And I think the construction
as well. You know, if someone was twice the size
of us or four times the size of us, then
it makes actually building a lot easier too.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I just you know, just then I had a picture
in my mind. I don't know if you've ever seen
somebody plastering a ceiling on stilts.

Speaker 5 (22:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah. A lot of plasters wear stilts, don't they if
they're plastering a ceiling, and it just goes to show,
doesn't it. Yeah, you were tall, you wouldn't have needed
to have done that. And I understand that people will
argue that the reason that these windows are so high
up in churches and old buildings is to let light in.
But that isn't the purpose of a window. That's not

(22:46):
the sole purpose of it. They're to look out.

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Of, Yeah, you know, they gaze out.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah. Yeah, you know, a room with a view you buy?

Speaker 5 (22:57):
Yeah, like you said, a room with a view.

Speaker 4 (22:59):
If if you go into an oldtel or an apartment
on holiday, you want to get a room with a view.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
And some of these old buildings, if you look in
some of these stately homes, if you look at old
images of them where they've got artwork up on the walls,
some of them are so high up.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yeah, people who are height wouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
Able to see them. You'd never be able to appreciate
or see them. They're too high up. And the same
is true of a lot of fireplaces. They're actually too
high for you to put anything on or access anything
that you have put on there. So we sooner related
we're going to have to accept, well I don't mean
you and I, but the mainstream are going to have

(23:38):
to accept that giants were a very real thing. And
we're not just talking about people that had a genetic disorder.
We're talking about thousands and thousands of people.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Of a different species entirely to what we are.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yes, yes, and some of them I've read several times
that some of them had double rows of teeth.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, the moon eyed people about them, they believed them
to have. But they've found schools within the area I
can't remember the where the place is, not what the
area is, well.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
I think is it Minnesota?

Speaker 4 (24:16):
And they found schools with two layers of teeth, two
rolls of teeth top and bottom.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Did you hear about what happened during the conflict in Afghanistan?
Did you ever hears too? Yeah, this was another one.
They some some soldiers went into a cave and then
seen something in the cave and they actually got hold
of one of these giants. And I don't know if
they killed it completely or if they'd wounded it, but
it was it was airlifted out. Yeah, yeah, they got

(24:47):
it and they it was airlifted out. And I did
a podcast with an American guy a while back, maybe
a month or two ago, and he was there at
the time, and he was security, so he was in
the he was in the army in the Marines, but
he was actually attached to a security team where they

(25:08):
were making sure other people didn't come and see what
they were doing. And he was a very yeah, and
he did. And he also was at the site where
they found Gilgameshes too.

Speaker 4 (25:20):
And there again Gilgamesh sixteen foot top red hair biblical. Yeah,
going to the Biblical text, and I want to mention
it before, but in the Qur'an, Adam is sixty cubits tall. Yes,
that is ninety foot yeah, ninety foot tall. Yeah, I
don't know what that is in meters, but your door

(25:42):
in your house is two meters. You just imagine all
indoors that's on top of each or and just imagine
how I that is. I'd love to know what that
he's in meters, but it's it's a long Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Yeah, that's incredible, isn't it? And he's not alone. There
a lot of biblical figures at all, I think nowhere
as well. Yeah, but when you when you try and
find out the height that they believe Jesus was, they
put him at about five foot six, five foot seven and
say that that was that was about average full that time. No,
it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I don't think it worried.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
No, No, And I think not just giants, but I
think there were also people that were really really small.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there were. There were both sides of
the spectrum, and we still get that now, but a
very watered down verte and complex to what I imagine it
used to be.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Like, yeah, yeah, I totally agree, because people normally just
associate anyone that's above sort of six six foot four,
six foot six with the giants. Yeah, they think that
it is you know, a genetic disorder, but it clearly
isn't because a lot of these skeletons that are found
there is no evidence of there being a different deformation or.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
And then going back to obviously the bigger people, the
bigger scores have got a bigger brain, so therebviously more intellectual.
Would imagine they'd be more intellectual than us, So we
should explain some of this, some of this beautiful artistic
work we see in these built into the structures they've gone.
Obviously great knowledge of cosmology and astrology, and is that

(27:18):
a result of I mean, there's a lot more oxygen
I'm led to believe in the atmosphere back then, and.

Speaker 5 (27:24):
That will cause things to grow larger.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well I think that's true of vegetation.
I think that that's where these giant trees come from.
And animals too. Yeah. I think everything was bigger, and
I think that's part of the backstory with dinosaurs. Look
at the size of these animals, and I don't think
back then things were big. I think that that was

(27:48):
how they were supposed to be. And I think it's
us that are small. I think we've been stifled, you know,
due to the lower oxygen content. I think everything's stifled.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Yeah to us really if with a state we pollute
the world.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Yeah, yeah, people don't realize it, do they. It's in
our water, it's in the air, it's in the food,
and then the medical interventions that they offer us. We're
being poisoned. We're poisoned from the moment we're born.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Left for right and center. You're not can't escape it,
especially if you live in the Only way you can
get away from it is if you live remote.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
But even then it's still coming down in the scars
and in the war.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Yeah, I was looking into going and digress again. Now
I was looking into the Spanish flu today, and it
was about one hundred years before the recent pandemic we
had in twenty twenty. And it's called the Spanish flu
because people believe that's where it started, and it isn't.
It was started in a lab that was run by Rockefeller,

(28:51):
John Rockefeller testing different vaccines and it all sorts of
forms of influenza. Lots of differences would be researched there
and they jabbed a load of soldiers before they got
sent out during the First World War, sent across to
Europe and yeah. And the only reason that it Spain

(29:14):
was the first people, first country to report the outbreak
was because they were the only newspaper. They were the
only country where the newspapers in Europe weren't censored.

Speaker 4 (29:25):
See when you do a little bit digging and it
starts to reveal, doesn't.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
It gets better? The head scientist, Yeah, his surname was Gates,
no job. So now you look at the King of
the vaccines, Gates Gates. Yeah. Now I can't find a connection.
I can't find whether or not they're related, but i'd
imagine something like that would be buried. All I know

(29:49):
is that book. Gates mum worked for IBM and was
involved with the bar coding of the Jews during the
Second World War. Yep, so you know that whole family.
So it wouldn't surprise me. But there you go. So
one hundred years after Rockefeller gives everybody Spanish flu, we
have another outbreak. Gates gets involved, and Gates is involved

(30:11):
at the first time too. So yeah, the adition the
parasites do love to give us diseases, and well, they
like to poison us. They like to keep us in
a low vibrational state. And as you're finding out with
your research with the giants, they like to hide the

(30:32):
truth from us.

Speaker 4 (30:34):
And a lot of the things we've spoken about. Now
you can do a quick Google and it's not even hidden.
It's not even hidden, it's just no one cares for it. Well,
obviously there's a lot of us, the Douka, but the
greater majority of the mainstream. I mean, once you look,
if you spend an hour looking into it online, just
search Giant Bonnes found, you're going to find stuff that

(30:57):
you cannot provide a logical explanation for other than there
were giants alive on this planet a very long time ago. Yeah, yeah,
I imagine in places underground if you look at it biblically,
in most religions, the giants were there before the flood. Yes,

(31:20):
the giants were gone after the food. So that I
bet there's been people watching this thing and asking the
question where they are gone? Mhm, biblically in a lot
of relate a lot of religions, Like I said, it's
the flood that wipe the majority of them out.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah. And then the Book of Enoch, the giants.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
Aren't painting in a very good light there or people.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Have you read the Book of Enoch.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
I've read. I've read certain bits of it.

Speaker 3 (31:50):
Yeah, there's there's the Book of Enoch and the Book
of Enoch too. Yeah, yeah, there's two books. I haven't
read the second one, but I've got the Ethiopian Orthodoxy
and that's really interesting. I would take it away with me, but.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
You'll be reading all older then and.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
It's this big, so I'm not. It's stay it's staying here.
But yeah, there's the Book of Enoch and the second
Book of Enoch as well, which I haven't I haven't
read yet.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Of course, Fallen Angels.

Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
Nephelin nephi Lam is in the Hebrew for fall, which
means two fal mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
So there's more symbolism throughout the languages though.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
So what else have you got for us? What else
have you been I've looked at the photos.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yeah, I've been digging in a lot of things. Really,
since you look into Tartari, it's just opened up everything, really,
because it's all connected.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
It is all connected.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
People, it was all connected and I didn't get it,
but it's all connected. It's all connected. This one's a
bit blurry, but we've got the this is the Smithsonian,
people will be proud of a giant. Of the dimensions
of this one more particulars regarding the giants dimension prove.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
I'm struggling to read that eight feet in length.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Eight feet in length, the skeleton will be on exhibition.
I wonder if it is. I wonder if it ever was.
I don't think it was. I doubt it ever was.

Speaker 5 (33:24):
No, it's a bit too blurry.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Cyclops. Yeah, I can't read it very well. But I
saw the cyclops a bit at the top. Man at
least six feet I think that says six feet five
or six feet six in height. And the girl was

(33:51):
taken to mister Jefferson.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
And by him examined. It was like ordinary schools, only larger,
except that it had, as far as could be seen,
no places where the eyes had been.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
This one hole in the center of the forehead.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
That might have served for one.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I well, that's that again. That's surely to God that
is not a deformity. Now, how many people are born
with no eye sockets and just one in the middle
of your forehead?

Speaker 4 (34:25):
You see, we're rather require a totally different skull. It
would another different amature.

Speaker 5 (34:32):
You don't say if.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
It's a large eye, doesn't know, you'd imagine, I'd imagine
it would be a large if it's in obviously describing
it though in one eye in the center of the
forehead you skept. You can't really gauge the size, can you.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
All Right?

Speaker 4 (34:49):
It's New York Times July fifth, eighteen ninety one, so
this is a well known newspaper MM at the time.
If the if the polsy stories like this. Now, guy,
I've read news purple see.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
From what I understand from the epic of Gilgamesh and
the annue archy, that anky who you know, if you
follow the story of the Elahim or the an anarchy
where we were created as a slave race, their first
experiments failed. They couldn't you know, they kept turning something

(35:30):
out that wasn't quite like us. And allegedly, well so
they say in the Epic Gamesh, their first experiments using
male DNA, and so male DNA from what was homo
erectus to take their their DNA and the male DNA

(35:55):
from from that and and sorry, beggy, pardon, yes that's
quite yeah, that is right right, No, so this would
have been the andertal so yes, sorry, So they take
them the male Neanderthal DNA and the anunarchi female DNA,
and what they came up with was the Gorgan, the Cyclops,

(36:22):
the banshee, and the two headed giants. And they were
released into the wild and left to for themselves. And
then Nki goes back to the drawing board and decided
that this time he would try splicing his DNA with
a female and Neandertal female and art officially inseminate her.
So they would, so they did it the other way round.

(36:44):
So they found by using what was wandering around here
in the Andertal man, using his DNA and the DNA
of a female an unarchy, they created these giants and
the Cyclops was one of them, along with as I said,
the gorgan and the banshee and two headed giants. And
it was only when they used a and the end

(37:04):
a tool female and any narchy male that they actually
got us to pop out. And that's when they made
a Damnu first man.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
And it's remarkable how much evidence of that there is
there is been found. It's not just a book with
stories anymore, because a lot of biblical scriptures and writing
have been proven by what we've found. Yeah, yeah, so

(37:35):
it's more like an account of what actually happened. I'm
not I'm not saying it's exactly what because obviously the
bits have been removed. The Book of Enoch has been removed.
There's probably bits been removed that we have no idea about. Yeah,
but I dare say originally that's what it was for
this story of creation.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:58):
Right, So back to the Looper Giants.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Skeleton's found archaeologists to send expedition to explore graveyards in
New Mexico where bodies work on Earth. And I'm just
going to add to this one here because have you
heard a Timocon Yes, in Mexico.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:15):
Well, the mythology regarding that is that the pyramids on
the site were built by the early and early race
of giants. Well, and here we are New Mexico. Giants
have been found.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
Its America again, isn't it. We're not being told the
truth about America. I think that that is probably quite
possibly where civilization actually started.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Well, I have included them in the album, but I've
in my group on Facebook, I've pulsed about it today.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
But I've actually found references from my books.

Speaker 4 (38:54):
Indicating the Tartari Tartaria was in fact looks to be
inhabiting parts of North America.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Yeah. Absolutely, Well, if you look at if you look
at baps of the earth, then you can see how
easily that would have happened, because if it was spanning
across the whole of that, you know, the top of
Asia and Russia. Yeah, then you know it's a very
small step to go across to America.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Well, I don't know if you've read my pulse, but
it seems to speculate that there was a land mass
there that you could cross.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, and the water levels but well we've had we've
had floods, and we've got the younger driers to show
us that. So the Great Flood certainly would have swallowed
up and I guess that's when we lost Atlantis and
perhaps Hyperborea.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Well this book, guy, we're written in nineteen thirty nine,
and it says that there's a straight at that point,
not say that it's been flooded. Wow. Yeah, I'll shot
you after.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
So maybe we're not being maybe we're not being told
exactly the truth. Well, that wouldn't come as a surprise
to anybody, would it.

Speaker 4 (40:08):
No, I've obviously been lied to. Yeah, it's just like
the theory of evolution. So where does the giants fit
in so that they don't do that? No, they don't
because I'm a believer. I'm not really religious in a sense,
but I believe in the Creator. I'm not I believe

(40:30):
that this is all created. It's got to a bit. Yeah,
there's too there's too much that works perfectly together for
it to be an accident.

Speaker 3 (40:41):
Oh yeah, I don't believe. I don't believe it was
an accident. I don't believe in the Big Bang theory
or that we crawled out of the water and suddenly
developed the ability to walk and then slowly upright, And
so I don't believe that. I don't believe that at all.
Because if Darwin, who I don't believe in either his

(41:05):
origin a species the theory of evolution. It doesn't stack up.
Because if you evolved to meet your environment, then why
do so many of us burn when we go outside?
Why do all of us have problems with back pain?
You know when we reach a certain age, and yeah,
why why do I get hay fever?

Speaker 4 (41:28):
Well? And I always say and think about what animal
has evolved into a new species in the twenty fifth century,
non mm hmm. And like you've just said, they're like
we seem to have got we seem to have the
evolved unevolved gone backwards.

Speaker 5 (41:46):
Like to gets or backs.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
The seems certainly in most countries now that the life
expectance is lower.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Well on this this article, sorry I don't think we
mentioned it, but this they've found of twelve feet.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Toll well, twelve feet bloody.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Hell, twelve feet. Yeah. The men who opened the graves
said the forearm was four feet long and had a
wellcas of daw of lower teeth the size of a
Hi Mexic.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
So yeah, what a surprise America again, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
Most of them are?

Speaker 3 (42:24):
They are, aren't they?

Speaker 4 (42:25):
They probably one of the reasons is covered up so
much because they obviously Christopher Columbus wasn't the first amount
to step foot on the island.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
No, I don't even know if if he existed. I'm
a little bit.

Speaker 4 (42:42):
Well, what with they i that we have today, he
can make up the version that we have, can make
some stories of that. If you're being told and you
had no reason to think it was a lie, you
think it were real? YEA, well, they may.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
They may.

Speaker 4 (42:56):
They could have just said programming to where I make
up a new story of creation and that's what they've
come out with. And they've made some characters to go
along with you. Yeah, and a full new history too much.
That's what I think. It is, just the big facade.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yeah, I'll read you a little bit here if you're interested.
This is This is actually from my own book. But
it's something that I think's relevant because obviously I was
telling you a moment ago about you know, how they
managed to come up with the two headed giants and
the cyclops and Banshee and so on, you know, by

(43:34):
doing it round the other way. But it's just a
little bit about Gilgamesh. And yeah, I won't read the
whole thing out, but i'll just i'll cut it a
bit short. So we know that we had obviously we
had the flood, and yeah, so where am i? Soah?

(44:00):
The an Anarchy now had all the goal the goal
they needed to replair their planet so zone, So they
drove most of the humans from Iridu, who's then spread
across the world. Many of those that remained had relationships
with the an Anarchy, and their children were just like
a dapper, extremely intelligent and powerful and considered demigods. Today

(44:21):
we know the names of some of these beings. Gilgamesh
Hercules are two of them.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
So so what what are they bored as mythical figures today?

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Yeah? Well, I don't think mythological creatures are mythological at all.
I think we're just being told to think that. And
I think dinosaurs were a backstory. I think.

Speaker 5 (44:44):
Well, and it's like unicorns.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
That reference I sent you, I should have added that
one to the album as well. But that reference I
sent you the other day from the same book that
were referenced where they I can't remember the exact quote,
but they raided a castle and found what they believed
to be a unicorn horn.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Well, Queen Elizabeth the first bought unicorn horns. She thought
they had medicinal properties, and they used to use them
to test They could do a test with ground unicorn
horn to see if food had been poisoned before they
ate it.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
These stories don't come from noldwhere.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
No.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
No, I don't think so. But somebody said to me,
is it possible that giants, dragons, unicorns they're still here.
They're still around us. We just can't see them, you know,
because if you think about it when you were a kid,
And a lot of people will resonate with this. When
you're a kid, you see fairies at the bottom of

(45:49):
the garden, monsters in the cupboard or under your bed,
and then one day it stops. And I've always associated
that with Yeah, the calcification of your paneal gland. I've
always associated it with that because they say civilization by
the time you're about nine years old, the exposure to

(46:11):
to fluoride by the bye by literally by nine is
so severe that your paneal gland has solidified, it's calcified,
So you can't see these things anymore. So is it
possible that they are still out there, still around us
and we just can't see.

Speaker 4 (46:28):
I can't see them frequency anymore.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Exactly exactly that. And and I've also read I don't
know if you've have you heard about the I think
I might have them here somewhere, the books about thet
they see. Yeah, here we go. Oh, this is the
first that I want to show them both. Yes, So

(46:54):
have you ever heard of this book?

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Another gir who crossed the Ice?

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, so this is where people people have started putting
these maps online. Basically, you the guy's got a YouTube
channel now. His name is Claudio Naicelli, and he's got
a YouTube channel and he's made AI videos. He's made
his first book into an AI video. It's it's pretty good,

(47:23):
to be fair, you know. I'm sort of I'm not
sure about AI, kind of think it's cheating. Yeah, it's
that that map there, the.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
Mark of the world.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Yeah, so it's showing you all of the continents that
we can't actually physically see, the ones we're not allowed
to see.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
I think I do believe in them.

Speaker 3 (47:47):
Yeah, I kind of I do as well. What was
interesting with this is one of the one of the
one of the lands that are beyond the ice walls
is Tartaria. It's a it's a little bit like they
escaped and some people fled. But in this book, and
this is the one written by a woman who was

(48:08):
born behind the ice wall, so this is the kind
of sequel. And in this one there are see if
I can find it, there's there's lots about Tartaria in
this second. Yeah, it's worth it's certainly worth worth a read.
I can't remember her name. So William Morris, William Morris

(48:31):
is the is the navigator, so he's the one that
the story is about. So he flees on a ship
Earth if you like. He flees our realm and he
goes through the ice wall. There's a passageway. He gets
through it, and then he's in a bowl. Yeah. Yeah,
big ship, and then his daughter is born there. She

(48:55):
comes back through and then she shares her story.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
There's the true book.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Then wow allegedly r yeah. But chapter twenty two, the
Giants of Great Tartary who wanted to liberate humanity the job.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
Where are they? No, we need them now, I know,
I know.

Speaker 3 (49:19):
And but what's interesting is that in the book it
says that the giants when we went through the Reset
seventeen seventy six leading up to the reset, that the
giants here fought alongside us.

Speaker 4 (49:34):
So they see that's when you look into when you
look at the history of it's very conflicting, isn't it.
They're either on our side helping or the retinals.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Well, if you look at the if you if you
dig deep into the Napoleonic Wars, a lot of the
people that survived those wars said that both sides were
wearing the same uniform. And here's another here we go,
going right off Tangent. Now here's another one for you.
World War two, right, most of the bombing happened in London,

(50:05):
the Blitz. Nearly all of the bombing that happened in
London was in the East End. They destroyed the East
End of London to redevelop. The area of land that
was flattened was the area they wanted to redevelop. They've
been trying to for some time. And a man called
Goldfinger and another one called Abercrombie the Germs Bond exactly.

(50:29):
That's where Goldfinger comes from. He was the developer who
wanted to to literally flatten and rebuild the East End,
going right up to Canary Wlf, coming in towards the city.

Speaker 4 (50:41):
And everyone was in the air.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Kids are evacuated, they're in the air raid shouters like
you said, or they're in the underground. Lot of them
took shelter in so no one saw what happened. So question.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
For interruptive but per Golfer Booking and.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Part exactly exactly. So Buckingham Palace apparently had a stray
bomb land near it or something, or took a couple
of dents or something that say, with Saint Paul's you'd
take with Westminster out, Whitehall you would take out I mean,
taking Saint Paul's out would really dent them. Arale, Buckeham
Palace would have really upset some people.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
London Bridge, London Bridge.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Why not? You know? So if you're flying over from
Germany one of them, you know, and let's let's let's
you're going to fly all the way over, turn around
and then fly back again. Now i'd query the fuel
with that. So so you fly all the way over
and you just bomb just the sort of most deprived

(51:46):
area of London. Why So I've been Yeah, I've been digging,
and yeah, I've really done some diket on that. And
I've got some information that I don't know if I
can post.

Speaker 5 (52:01):
Well, you have to let me all privately.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Yeah, I'll send it to you because I do not
know whether or not I can post it because there
are problems. Either it will upset the algorithm and I
could be banned, or there will be people out there
that are so determined that everything they've been told is

(52:24):
true that they would be offended by information I found,
not by what I think the information I've found.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
See that happens, and a lot of people despite it
being proof, you've got solid proof.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
Despite having that, they're like, no, it's not the one
of it.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
No, there's some people.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
They're the same people that roll up their sleeves if
you want to offer them some sort of medical intervention
for something that may or may not exist. And then
they'll go back again a few months later for another one.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Yeah, jub me again, then.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Another, then another, then another. Yeah. We call them gibber
jabbers and I kill.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
Them and then then yeah, and then you just fuck them.

Speaker 3 (53:07):
Yeah, but do we need these people because you know
they serve a function. We call them n PCs, now,
don't we know in a dialogue? They don't question anything.
They do whatever they're told to do. They watch the news,
they go, they come home, they put the TV on.
They've got the news on in the car, the news
on at work, they buy the paper and they do everything.
They do the National Lottery thinking that this time maybe

(53:29):
it's going to be them.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
And what ye work all year gone on holiday, that's
great work, all year gone on holiday, rinse and repeat. Well,
there's also.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
I believe the voice in your head, that is the
soul I believe.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
So then when you look at it like that because
these people apparently don't have the vice. So I'm told, yeah,
people more than half the population don't have the vice,
So does that mean they don't have a soul? According
to my concept?

Speaker 3 (54:02):
It's a difficult one, isn't it. And because a lot
of people say that the cabbage patch babies, the people
that you know, with these babies that were sort of
mass produced to repopulate, were soulless. A lot of people
say that. Dolores Cannon said that she did a lot
of research into that, and you know a lot a
lot of people think that she's a very credible, you

(54:25):
know voice if you like. So it's a difficult one
because I've had people message me and say, I do
not have an inner dialogue there is I.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
Can't imagine what it will be like that. I mean, mine,
my guy, Oh my god, it's got.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
Working twenty four to sevens smoke coming up.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Me is yeah, I've always been the same, Just to
keep thinking and thinking.

Speaker 4 (54:48):
And thinking over thinking a lot.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
I'll be easy to get to sleep the inside vice.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, I know exactly what
you mean. I struggle, I fall as I go to bed,
at ten, I'd go to bed earlier, but my wife
really would object to that. She said, for christ sake, man,
you know.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
You So i'd just like me guy.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Well, I'm sort of by by about four or five o'clock.
I'm awake, and i'd lie there and I meditate, So
meditate for and to help me do that, I go
through the alphabet. So I've always loved cars. I'm a
petrol head.

Speaker 4 (55:33):
So off topic, Well, that's what I do for a living.
That's what I've done, yes, since like twelve years old, that's.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Kind of And I started out. I worked for an
automotive manufacturer, a company that made car parts, like being
a part manufacturer. And then I worked for a company
that imported car alarms into the April America. And the
company was called Clifford.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Oh Clifford. Yeah, that Clifford clock did he? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (56:02):
Well that that was me. So I was. I was
the main retailer for Clifford in the UK. That's what
I did. I set up the company to do that. Yeah.
So I was involved with the TV show your dad
might know called Pimp My Ride.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
I know about pin Myron guy.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
When I was Pimp My Ride UK, I did go
out to America and met the West Coast Customs crew.
But I worked on the show here and then I wrote, Yeah,
I wrote. I used to write occasionally. I did the
back cover for most of the car magazines, and I
wrote for a cut magazine called Max Power.

Speaker 5 (56:42):
Max Barr as well.

Speaker 3 (56:44):
Yeah, I used to write for that magazine, so back
in the day. But so what I do is I
go through the alphabet. So I lie there and I
used to do the breathing, but now I can't. So
so now I started with A, and I think A.
Three cars. It has to be three because of my
thing about Nikola Tesla. So three cars that begin with
an A. So I think like Astra, Toyota, Toyota, Avensis,

(57:10):
is Ford Anglia. And then you get you know, some
of the letters Q or I can get his cash Kai.
I can't think of another.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
One like that is a good one?

Speaker 3 (57:23):
Yeah, why is another one? Toyota Yaris. I can't think
of three Z. I mean Vauxhall Sophia has to be
a word made it harder for myself. And then you
get to to E after Ford Escort. All there are,

(57:44):
as far as I can see, cars made by Lotus,
Lotus is spirit and yeah, and that that that I can't.
So some of them are a lot harder than you think.
Range rather revolt, Yeah, but Range Rover Land Rover is
the make so rain drive the car. Yeah. So I'm

(58:05):
really strict with myself. Otherwise it's too easy. So that's
what I do to go to see because like you,
I've just got this in a dialogue that's constant.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
Well, I have a smoke. Sometimes I've managed to quietly dog.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Yeah, I can't do that just makes me paranoid. But
I used to it and it did help. And then
I started taking magnesium.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Did that help as well?

Speaker 3 (58:26):
It did? And then slowly it stopped working. I've tried
all sorts of things. I even had a potion made
by an alchemist. Yeah, no, no, no, nothing so. But
but it's never been falling asleep. That's been my problem.
It's been staying asleep.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
I'm all right once I'm gone.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Yeah, no, I reckon on a good night. If I
could get five hours, I'd be happy with that.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
I can function off from four woods, but ideally I
like to get seven.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Do we need sleep? Do we need to eat? Well?

Speaker 4 (59:06):
In India, the man in India called Johanni and he
claimed that he didn't eat or I think he drunk water,
but he didn't eat anything for like forty years.

Speaker 5 (59:19):
Researchers went over to see.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
Him and I think they lock. They put him in
a room and they only let him out so he
could ground himself and did and look at the sun.
And they said they were remained after forty five days
he didn't eat. Oh no, I didn't drink water because
he didn't go to the toilet either, said when they've
done tests, his body had made water. His body had

(59:43):
made water itself, hmm, and that's what was sustaining him.
So but he said all he did was ground himself.
He said, half an hour in the morning on sunrise,
a stare at the sun, and then on when sun
falls half an hour he said, because it's too bright
in the daytime will damage around And yeah, like I
said that. They It is quite heavily documented online, even

(01:00:05):
on the mainstream on Google. Well, forty five days are
we Ian didn't eat anything or.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Go to the toilet.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I spoke to somebody. I think it was yesterday. There's
an event here called here in England called Shine the
Shine Festival, and they have people like me and people
like John Hamer and other authors there, and people talking
about like Richard Robes talking about sort of truth seekers

(01:00:34):
and fighting for our rights. And he was quite ill,
he had pancreatis and he didn't eat anything for seven months. Yeah, nothing,
just water. He just drank water for seven months. And
when he had tests at the end, he was shown

(01:00:55):
that he was just slightly deficient in protein. That was it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
That's it. Yeah, I think in the mainstream now they
make it. From my belief, I thought, ten days after
not eating, you die regardless regardless of how much water
you drink, and that, yeah, that's what I would talk.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Yeah, And he said the same thing that it's to
do with sunlights, to do with direct you need getting Yeah,
you're getting what you need from the sun. This this,
it's it's it doesn't look like we need to eat
to the extent that we do.

Speaker 4 (01:01:34):
And when you look at sun cream, for example, looking
at it the bigger picture.

Speaker 5 (01:01:39):
So before sun cream were released to the mainstream.

Speaker 4 (01:01:42):
Skin cancer weren't a melanoma wasn't heard of as much.
And then sun cream gets released within six months eight months,
everyone a lot more people are getting skin cancer, and.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
You can't ignore correlations like that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
You can't say, oh, it's just a coincidence, because there's nothing,
no such thing as a coincidence.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
No. I agree. And it's funny you mentioned that because
my youngest son, Sam, he's got a channel on YouTube
called The Simple Life with Sam, and he was on
Richard Vogue's show probably six months ago now, maybe even
longer than that, And yeah, it probably was last year sometime,
and he said he was talking about suncream, and he

(01:02:21):
said exactly the same thing. And he also said, when
you rub something into your skin, it's absorbed into your bloodstream.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Are your skins the third kidney?

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Yeah, so if you're not prepared to drink it, don't
rub it in your skin. So if you won't like girls,
if you're not prepared to sit there and literally eat
some lipstick or you know, have a little dab of
some foundation or squirt some concealer in your mouth, and

(01:02:51):
if you're too scared to do that, I put it
on your first. Are you doing it rubbing it into
your skin? Because it's going in your bloodstream one way
or another. And people don't realize.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
That olive oil the best some cream for you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:04):
I just I'm sort of I work with the mad
dogs and Englishman theory. You know. I keep out of
the midday sun so I don't use anything and if
I burn then we use allow verra.

Speaker 4 (01:03:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
When we've been in Portugal before then I've seen lots
of the Portuguese actually just snap a piece of cactus
and yeah, I'll do that after sun. Best after sun
you can get.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
So yeah as well get y.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
The holiday I've just been on two weeks. I did
put some crew on. I burnt quite badly yogurt, but
I mixed yogurt with honey freshoorney, rubbed it on, slept
in morning. I was still a bit red, but they
were noll stinging. And then for the days after the
holiday fine didn't burn obviously. Like you say, you got
to have a bit of common sentence. Don't be in

(01:03:56):
the sun all the time. But now I've got a
better time than me missus. It's not rapping about.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
It, funny, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
Yeah, But because it's the thing will go quite off
tangent from giantsy. Well. The thing for me with some
cream is I was under the impression if you put
some cream on you won't burn. But every time I
put some cream on, I still burn. I thought, what's
going to happen if I don't put it on? And
not much difference to be quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just kind of I just stay
in the shade. Yeah, And obviously, being pollically challenged, I
wear a hat and I just I just limit how
long I'm in the sun.

Speaker 4 (01:04:36):
For that's all. You've got to do something a bit
of common sense about it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Yeah, yeah, just cover up. So I tend to wear
shirts on other day, long sleeve shirts, you know, and
and you know, obviously they're not done up fully, yeah,
because I can cover myself and then and then I
you know, in the evening, I just like linen trousers.
So I'm wearing light, breathable clothing and you know, and

(01:05:00):
I can cover. Yeah, I can cover up literally everything.
The only thing, well, the only thing exposed is my hands.
So you know, I'm just I'm just careful. But my
wife obviously was born with a head start, so being
mixed race, she doesn't burn. She just goes browner, you know,
she goes darker and darker, and at the moment she says,

(01:05:20):
she's milky tea and she doesn't like it. She's too pale.
She doesn't like.

Speaker 7 (01:05:26):
Its milky tea. Again, look at me? And I said,
look at you, Look at me. I've been dipped in
a bottle of tipex. Come on, yeah, old bubb be
nice and red soon. So where were we with the giants?
Because my brain literally just went off somewhere with yours obviously.

(01:05:48):
I think it maybe went to the pub and had
a beer or something.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
I've got a few more things I found about giants.
But in my own mythology, they believe that the giants
hold up the four corners of the sky. Really, yeah,
in certain parts of Mayan mythology. So who make sure
wonder all their time? They must be tired together because

(01:06:13):
they can't have every ancient culture and religion talking about giants.
Us find in giants and then it turns out giants
aren't real. I mean it's inpronile with proof.

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Yeah. Yeah. And this is my argument with Tartaria that
where you have these buildings that look very similar to the
Greco Roman style buildings, you know that these civilizations had
no way of communicating, So how would they be talking
about giants in South America and also talking about giants,

(01:06:47):
you know in the opposite side of the world without
actually communicating. These are common stories, same as our creation,
you know, the story of the Elahir and the story
of the annarchy. These beings that come out of the
sky all come out of the water and share information
with us, share technology with us, and farming, you know, mathematics, education, astrology,

(01:07:11):
and so on, which they're all shown these things by,
and they all tell the same story that I wonder
if a friend of mine, who I've had on my
channel before, called now, I can I can never say
his name properly. It's Gills Tessier or Shields Tessier. He

(01:07:33):
says that he believes that this that the earth is
a bit like a lump of Swiss cheese. It's full
of holes. There are tunnels and civilizations, and that the
smart people live underground, and we're up here subjected to
burnt or soaked with you know, we're freezing cold, or
we're boiling to death. We're up here being exposed to

(01:07:56):
everything and radiation, and they are are beneath us.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
So yeah, and it seems that where the giants went,
we had stable heat on the ground as well as it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:08):
I just I don't know, but I just think you
know the story of a Gatha or Shambala, is that
where the giants went? Because what I was saying, like
with the with the book about what happened with you know,
when the Tartarian Empire of the millennia around whatever you
want to call it, when the old world, the old
civilization collapsed, the giants fought alongside us. And and I've

(01:08:32):
read that the reason that they didn't stay here, the
reason that they disappeared, they went into hiding, They went
into caves, they went underground, they went through the ice
wall or wherever they went to was because they took
so many casualties, so many they lost so many lives
the giants that they couldn't continue to stand and fight

(01:08:54):
with us. They had to go.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
They'd lost time to be extinct.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Yeah, and that was that was their fear of coming
back to help us again.

Speaker 4 (01:09:04):
Yeah, understandable mm hmm. And like you said, everyone says
the same story apart for omals. Yeah, in in history,
they all paint obviously not the exact same, but very
similar story. And then the story we get given is
just miles aware from what their story is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
So we see when you look at history, and you think, well,
let's see what other civilizations believed. They all believe very
similar things. And then we don't believe anything like that.
I got back some pictures, I've got some foot prints.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
Yeah yeah, just what else she got?

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
Then? Right? This is the one in Mexico. What was this?
Two hundred skeletons of men, each above eight feet in high.
The cave was evidently the burial place of a race
of giants who and today or predated the Aztecs. Bloody

(01:10:13):
eight feet eleven inches, and his molars were big enough
to crack a cocronel imagine a man was big enough
he can put a coconut in his mouth and break
it with his back teeth.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Yeah, that's ridiculous, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Because my head is probably the same size as a colconal.

Speaker 3 (01:10:34):
It's bizarre, isn't it. And it's the same thing all
the time, isn't it. We're seeing it in America, and
I imagine this is Smithsonians again. They're all going somewhere,
aren't they.

Speaker 4 (01:10:45):
They're all going to the Smithsonian. And that's nineteen o eight,
So that's not even that long ago, No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
No.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
And then before I mentioned love Lock Cave, and we
had the cave was sealed off and of set on
fire and the giants died inside. This is the supposed
ad print. This was a bit of a better I
don't know, but I mean something left that print on

(01:11:14):
there and then you look, so it could be I
don't know, it could be You've got one, two, three, four,
five fingertips that could be the palm in the center.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
So it could well be an aprint.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
Yeah, I mean that's certainly what it looks like, doesn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:11:35):
Yeah, And that's a big one, judging by that knife.
That knife, I don't know how big that is, could
be sixteen inches maybe, Yeah, so that's pretty big, big end.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
Yeah. Yeah, I mean if you look, if he placed it,
it's a shame he doesn't put his palm in the
middle of it. Yeah, that would be so much better
idea because when you look at his ant there, yeah, and.

Speaker 4 (01:11:59):
Then that's that's probably the same as that little portion now, yeah,
the reps of it. Yeah, when you look at it
like that next to each other, side by side, I
bet well, some of these footprints, like we'll get to
the foot princes, but like this sarcophagus found in Egypt.
Who's that for? You know, it's made that size for.

Speaker 5 (01:12:24):
Someone that big, you'd imagine.

Speaker 3 (01:12:30):
Yeah, that is incredible. So we don't know who's in there.
Then the cover of one of the big coffins in
Davis's too. Oh that's not much a help, is it.
None of the big coffins this is.

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
I've searched that online and all it brings up is
this image.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
So it's been it's either not well documented on purpose
or it's been buried.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Yeah, it's gone. Here we go. Ralph Glidon, who I before,
found over three thousand skeletons that were all average high
seven to nine feet tall, and in the Catalina Museum.
I could be wrong where it is, but there was
a museum that had a box that was supposedly is

(01:13:18):
and then that were lost in the museum and found it.
They opened up the box, found a lot of his
memoirs and they found these pictures in there as well. Yeah,
so I mean it's quite well documented. Ralph blood and
to be honest, if you look into it, but he
found over three thousand skeletons, some people say over four thousand.

(01:13:39):
Where are they?

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:13:41):
Where that's a lot of skeletons.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Yeah, well, I think we can guess where they are,
can't we.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
Yeah, I don't even I think that I wondn't be
surprised if they're not even in existence Anymost have been
destroyed because they probably knew at some point people are
going to start digging and it's going to be easier
to destroy something and then hide it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:14:03):
Yeah, this is another one.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
I can't read that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
No, skeleton of Mount No.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
It's in Ohio, America again, so that could be I.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
Think, Oh, I think this is one of the moon
eyed people, because this is I think this is a
skeleton with the two rolls of teeth, which which lines
up with it being in Ohio.

Speaker 3 (01:14:32):
Bloody hell, oh my god, I have a look at that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:35):
Who's left that? Interestingly, the stone has been stone's been
turned over at some point in history. H stick six
toes maybe though, or maybe there's pinky toes at are
very funny angle. But that is a giant for print. Yeah,

(01:15:01):
in stall and the mass in the depth of the
tolls matches the moss on the outside of the stone,
indicating that it's probably been like that for a long time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Yeah, Yeah, it's to go.

Speaker 5 (01:15:18):
Yeah, it's obvious at this point.

Speaker 4 (01:15:21):
That we're missing some pieces of history. Are I'm coming back? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15:30):
I just I sort of wonder with all of this
if we're ever going to find out the truth, because yeah,
with the Smithsonian Institute, we know that everything in America
that's that's been found like that ends up there and
then they deny having it or they've lost them best
at all.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
Have lost them. Yeah, they lose a lot of things.
To be fair, who put them in charge of looking.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
After our after I totally agree.

Speaker 5 (01:15:59):
I don't remember anyone for them.

Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
And I just think is that the equivalent of the
Vatican vaults, because as far as I'm aware, the Vatican
vaults are just full of really scriptures, texts and scriptures.
But if you find something in let's say, in Germany
or in Africa or you know, in Asia, where does
that go? Where do the remains of a giant go

(01:16:24):
that that are found there. I'm not totally sure about this,
but it's either Bolivia or Peru have a museum where
they actually have the giant skeletons on display.

Speaker 5 (01:16:40):
Yeah, yeah, there's another one of them in.

Speaker 4 (01:16:44):
I've got this written on you know Ecuador. There's a
seven meter skeleton on show in the museum in Ecuador.
Seven meter, seven meters tall.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Bloody hell. So maybe it's equator that I'm thinking.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Of, would be yeah, I don't know if the article
that I've read was from two thousand and four and
that's when they found giant bolbs in the area and
they're reconstructed this seven meter tall human what appears to
be human if you google it Ecuador seven meter skeleton.
I should have saved the pictures, but you'll see it there.

(01:17:21):
And it is remarkably tall.

Speaker 5 (01:17:24):
Hell, seven meters.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
And if you're seven meters tall, it's going to be
a lot easier to build some of these massive structures, Yes,
it is. It's going to be easier to traverse the world.
Everything would be easier if you're bigger. But like I said,
with the oxygen's more in the atmosphere, everything else is
going to be bigger. Yeah, Bigger trees, bigger animals, everything.

Speaker 3 (01:17:47):
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And we've seen things. We've seen books,
we've seen musical instruments. There was an image, you know,
some people have found huge swords. I wrote an article
a little while ago about something called the punk gun
now allegedly that that was used to go and shoot ducks,

(01:18:10):
but it took two people to carry it. The kickback
on it could be anything from ten to twenty feet
and if you mount it and they reckon. They mounted
it on boats, little rowing boats, and they'd go out
there and one blast from this and you could take
out quite a few ducks.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
Yeah, they'll blow you across the river as.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Well, exactly. And I just thought, well, this seems a
very strange process to go through to make something to
shoot ducks.

Speaker 4 (01:18:39):
Yeah, so it yeah, yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
I just think that this is taking something and repurposing it.
So I think there are a lot of things out there.
I've also seen boots as well, like sort of what
appears to be army fatigue, you know, sort of military
style boots that are absolutely enormous. There are images out

(01:19:04):
there of things that are just too big, and musical
instruments is quite a quite a common one. You can
find all sorts of them that are way just way
too big for us to use.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
And from my swords, I've looked into that myself. In Switzerland. Again,
I think it's in Switzerland, but in the there's a
museum there and they have a fourteen foot long sword.

Speaker 3 (01:19:28):
To how on earth produce?

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
Yeah, to swing that, you need to be bigger than
fourteen feet because imagine I'm six foot tall. Well I
am six foot tall, do you to imagine, but a
sword I'd probably want a foot and off that'd probably
be perfect to chuck around. So if you're fourteen for
you probably imagine you're maybe twenty eight to thirty foot

(01:19:51):
top and wield it efficiently and effectively. And otherwise, all
them years ago because this sword I'm talking a day
to the fourteenth century, So all of them years ago,
they would have wasted the material and the time to
make a sword that no one can use.

Speaker 3 (01:20:08):
No, no, absolutely no purpose. Yeah, and we weren't doing things,
if we follow the historical narrative, they weren't building things
like that or making things like that for fun or display.

Speaker 4 (01:20:21):
No, it was all for purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
Yeah. We didn't have the manpower, the resources, the materials
to just make something like that for just the hell
of it. So I just don't believe any of the backstory.
And I just think it's strange that, you know, I've
grown up thinking that giants are evil. You know that
Jack in the Beanstalk is a good example of that.
And before that, you know, before we had children's stories,

(01:20:44):
we've got the stories in the Bible, like David and Goliath,
you know, the giant being slayd It's always the giant.
You know, someone's always trying to kill the giant or
attack the giant. And we've just been told this so
many times that it's a bit like genghists on. You know,
he's a bloodthirsty lunatic, he's a warmonger, and whenever there

(01:21:05):
is some sort of something that they don't want us
to follow, or don't want us to give any creditor,
or even for one moment considered that they might actually
be benevolent, given this sort of narrative that we're supposed
to despise them, fear them, or hate them. And I

(01:21:26):
think that I think that's done on purpose, and I
think that they've done that throughout history with lots of people,
you know, even recently. You know, we're told with what's
going on in the world right now, that we're given
a list of all the bad guys, you know, leaders
of countries that are bad. And I often think, you know,
whether we're talking about Russia or North Korea. You know,

(01:21:48):
is it at all possible that we're not being told
the truth because we like about everything else? So what
if these people are actually good? Guys?

Speaker 4 (01:21:58):
I think this myself North Korea because everything you hear
about North Korea is terrible. Mm hmm, but is it?
I mean, you hear the stories that you can't leave,
and if that's true, you can't leave, and if you
do leave, all your family gets in prison. Don't get
me wrong. So that's true, that's terrible. But I don't know,
you don't know. It's all Western media just tells you

(01:22:20):
one story and that's their story. You don't get to
hear the other side of the story. Well, yeah, I
think everything it's been made up.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Yes, I think so.

Speaker 4 (01:22:34):
Because reading that book that I've just got them giant,
the giant references from I've got references to multitude more
strange things not related to Taris but just strange in general,
and it's like reading a book about a different world.

Speaker 7 (01:22:47):
Guy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Well, the interesting thing is with that, what you just
said about everything being a lie, is that there is
this you know, I don't believe Napoleon Bonaparte exists, or
certainly Napoleon didn't exist in the way that we've been told,
because you know, by twenty five is the most powerful
man in Europe. He's he's he can go with an

(01:23:13):
army with far less men than the army he's facing
and defeat always. Yeah, because of you know, his strategy.
His plans were meticulous and very clever.

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
Amunty years old is a lot of years served.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
And he's you know, when he's not doing that, he's
writing romantic novels and poetry and you know, no living descendant, surprise, surprise.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
And would have done under everything.

Speaker 4 (01:23:40):
Everything he tried. It was a professional.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Yeah, And I just I just think that, you know,
the the interesting thing with him is I don't think that.
I don't think he existed, or at least not in
the way we've been told. And his most famous quote,
and this is from Napoleon, allegedly, is that history is
a set of lies agreed upon.

Speaker 5 (01:24:03):
Well, we can agree on that one.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
So he's so the very man who may well not
have existed. He is credited with a quote that says exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:24:11):
That, Yeah, which might be why shit it's come from him. Yeah, yeah,
well it's quite small as well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
From apparently so yeah, and he's another one of.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
These or something.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Yeah, yeah, and hidden, and any images you see of him,
he's a he's hand tucked in showing these freemason, which
he wasn't if if you read his story, he wasn't.
And there it is the symbology of it. So I
think that again, just like the giants, they give us
these stories, these backstories.

Speaker 4 (01:24:42):
To.

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
Kind of dismiss things or make us accept things. So
if you stood in the street and said that I
believe giants existed, and they may still be wandering around now,
and some of them were twenty thirty forty feet tall,
people would laugh at you.

Speaker 4 (01:24:59):
Yeah, there would.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
And that's because they're supposed to. They're not supposed to.
Most people are not supposed to get this. They're not
supposed to understand. And you know, we're all trying to
wake everybody up. And I think the problem is not
everybody is supposed to be woken up. I think the
people some people don't want to wake No, they don't,
they don't, and I don't think they're supposed to. You know,

(01:25:21):
I've had this conversation with my mum, she's seventy five,
and I've said to her that, you know, I can
tell you she'll say mention something to me. And she
was talking about the red ants that are causing a
problem in Australia at the moment. They're going to have
to bleach all the farmland out there, and I said,
of course, you know this isn't true. There won't be
a problem with that. What they're doing is they're destroying

(01:25:42):
the farmland a little bit like over here where they're
chem trailing. And then we've got the tax, the inheritance
tax with farms. They're trying to stop farming, and that
is so that they can force feed us literally force
feed us crap. So we've got no.

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Kids, doesn't kills. Starmer signed a deal with Trump to
allow the importation of American beef. Yes, yes, and I've
already started. It's already started.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
So I can't call him that. I have to call
him Jimmy Savile's friend.

Speaker 4 (01:26:13):
Jimmy's friend.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
The man got Jimmy off the hook, did get him
off as well.

Speaker 4 (01:26:18):
Not a lot of people know that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
So yeah, Jimmy's friend. You know, he's At the end
of the day, I think it's important that people understand
that voting is something you must never do because you know,
these people don't decide anything. It's it's the think tanks,
you know, the World Economic Forum, build a burgery, Trilateral Commission,
and World Health Organization. They're the people that actually pull

(01:26:43):
the strings. Starmer and his mates have got no power whatsoever.
They're just delivering their puppets, Yeah, delivering other people's demands and.

Speaker 4 (01:26:53):
Just the face of it, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
And the only way you can clapse this system is
if everybody doesn't vote. If everybody said we're not voting,
then they can't form a government. We would have no government.
And that has happened before, not just in this country
years ago, but it's happened in other countries too. They've
had periods of time when there has been no government
and apparently everything ran a lot better, a little bit

(01:27:17):
liked if you turn the traffic lights off at around
about all of a sudden, or the roundabout works properly again.
So I think I think people have to if we
want to get the truth out there and we want
to find out our true history, we've got to remove
these people. And actually South governed have no government. Tool

(01:27:41):
we've got to remove them, and not voting is the
only way we can really do that. But how do
you get people that will roll their sleeve up and
take whatever's on offer to not vote. They genuinely believe that, Okay,
we don't like labor. Look at what they've done. They lied,
So we're going to vot for somebody else next time

(01:28:01):
just to spite them. I think it doesn't matter. This
is already. It makes no difference who you vote for.
Don't bloody vote, don't watch the news, don't buy the newspapers,
don't vote, don't participate and find out what companies support
the World Health Organization and the World Economic Forum like
walmartin Asda are a good example. McDonald's is another one,

(01:28:24):
and boycott them.

Speaker 4 (01:28:26):
Eat local, yeah, better for you?

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Absolutely?

Speaker 4 (01:28:31):
Yeah, not in our cases. Don't get me your fresh
fruit and vege seems to be an expensive commodity in
Britain now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:38):
Yeah, but I think it's more it's more nutritionally beneficial.
I think the nutritional value is higher in real food,
so you don't need as much of it. So you know,
somebody who sits and stuffs their face all day eating
mass produced, highly processed food is going to need a
lot more of it. If you and I went and

(01:28:58):
had you know, a jacket potato that was grown here,
and some steak that was grass fed and I hadn't
had any chemicals pumped into it or filled full of water.
We would get more nutrition from that than someone who
sits and eats all day long.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
Yeah, and a lot of you right though, And with fruits,
a lot of fruits. Now, the breads are not off
seeds in them.

Speaker 3 (01:29:23):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
So you want the fruit?

Speaker 3 (01:29:25):
Is it?

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
You want the seeds because if there's no seeds, and there's.

Speaker 3 (01:29:28):
No life exactly, and by definition, isn't a fruit something
that bears seeds? Eat the grapes. You try and find
grapes without seeds.

Speaker 4 (01:29:40):
When I went grease and when I've just been greas
on come, that's the only place I've found recently welcome
buy seeded grapes.

Speaker 3 (01:29:49):
That doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 5 (01:29:50):
I'm looking for great.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
I'm just gonna say, I'm looking forward to going to
Portugal a couple of days time because I can eat
proper fruit. You know, people think they're doing you a
favor by selling you grapes that haven't got seeds in them.
You know, it's almost been sold as a convenience thing.
You have going to spit them out, Well, then it's
not a fruit. If a fruit is something that bears seeds,

(01:30:12):
then that grape, that orange, you know, even watermelon without seeds,
and it's not it's not fruit. It can't be by definition.
If it hasn't got, if it doesn't bear a seed,
it isn't fruit. I don't know what it is. It
looks like fruit, but it isn't.

Speaker 4 (01:30:27):
Technically genetically modified. It is, yeah, modified to what none
of us ask for.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:30:38):
Yeah, it's like I grow well, my grandma and mean dad,
A lot of people in my family are quite avid gardeners,
and my grandma she's always growing strawberries, rhubarb, and the
strawberries she grows in a garden are sweeter and redder
than any strawberry have had from the supermarket. So what
what they're doing, I don't know what they're doing with
you think. I think they're probab genetically modified to groll

(01:31:01):
wicker as well, and that probably negatively affects all the
things in the fruit. Yeah, you can't speed it up
and expect, which is probably why they're not as sweet,
because they don't have enough They don't have enough time
to grow the sugars.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
What do you say it? Because I never used to
like tomatoes. You know. I didn't mind if they were
in a salad or a sandwich, but I wouldn't sit
there and actually eat a tomato. Oh I would, Well,
I didn't. I'd never done that until I went to Sorrento,
went to friends of ours got married in Italy in Sorrento,
And at the wedding when we got there, the your

(01:31:37):
derves came around and one of them was a little
baby octopus, this tiny little purple thing, and the other
one was this just this sort of I can't remember
how is it prisketta, prisketta preschetta, And it had just
a couple of small tomatoes on it, chopped up with
a little bit of olive oil. And I looked at it.

(01:31:59):
I turned my nose up and I thought I'd rather
eat the bloody octopus, which I did think was horrible.
And then my wife said to me, just try it,
Just try the bloody tomatoes and see what they're like.
They were so sweet, and I thought it was only
then that my brain finally accepted that a tomato is
a fruit.

Speaker 5 (01:32:19):
I think it's a fruit.

Speaker 3 (01:32:20):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I understand that it's a fruit,
but to me, fruits, in my mind, fruits are sweet.
And I could never get my head around the fact
that something that tasted like a tomato could be considered
to be a fruit. And I know there were things
like gooseberries and crab apples and some but cooking apples.
But to me, the tomato, I understand it's a fruit,

(01:32:44):
but it just doesn't bloody taste like one until I
had a real.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
One and then it did.

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:49):
Yeah, Nicotine in tomato.

Speaker 3 (01:32:53):
Yes, yes, very good for you, isn't it. Nicotine?

Speaker 4 (01:32:56):
Well, I don't tell you that.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
No, they don't. I mean, i'd imagine tobacco probably. Well,
it's a medicinal product, isn't it. It's going for medicinal
purposes across the world until they get it here, and
of course.

Speaker 4 (01:33:08):
Then they add fifty chemicals to Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
And of course one of the largest historically in this country,
one of the largest manufacturers of cigarettes is Rothman's, which
is the Rothschild's.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
Oh my god, god, I never even put that together.
I've never even thought that.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Yeah, yeah, so that's the Rothschild. So Rothmans is based
in Aylesbury and Buckinghamshire where the Rothschilds Wadston Manor is.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:33:36):
Yeah, so they owned the Rothmand cigarette brand, and it
wouldn't surprise me if they were the first people to
start putting the chemicals into them, because tobacco is a medicine.
It's only when they go through their process that it
becomes a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
Not only have they demonized nicotine, they've also turned it harmful.

Speaker 3 (01:33:57):
Yeah, which is what they do with everything else, isn't it. Yeah,
Absolutely everything else they're poisoned. Yeah, there was a negative,
wasn't it right. Well, we're going to wrap up now.
Just one thing before we go. I've asked you this before,

(01:34:19):
but give me a conspiracy theory. There's got nothing to
do with any of this that you're not necessarily currently researching,
but something that you think about now and again.

Speaker 4 (01:34:37):
I think about that, if it is really an earthquake
machine in Antarctica, and if Soul is that the cause
of every single earthquake on Earth?

Speaker 3 (01:34:47):
Right, the earthquake machine in Antartic.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
New Tree Nold detect and Tesla patented an earthquake machine. Yeah,
and then yeah, because then I think, if this is
God's realm, sure that it would only be God that
would be able to do such a thing as an earthquake.
So if it's not him doing it, who else is

(01:35:13):
doing it?

Speaker 3 (01:35:14):
Mm hm.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
So I thought, yeah, that's what's the conspiracy.

Speaker 3 (01:35:18):
I think about what I suppose It depends who God
is because you know, for me, I think they're talking
about Enki and end Lil because in the Old Testament
it's plural, but for some people it's Zeus, you know,
the jealous God.

Speaker 4 (01:35:37):
I don't know who I think God is. I thought,
God to me is the creator of the of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
I think that that.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:47):
I think that there is a source of energy that
created everything.

Speaker 4 (01:35:53):
If it's know, if it's material or if it's spirit,
I don't know, but there's an entity we'll say that
is God that created all this.

Speaker 3 (01:36:04):
Yeah. Yeah. And I think the other the other things
that have come along, like Anky and little Zeus and
so on, then they're not gods. They just appear as
gods to us. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
And the more intellect and just.

Speaker 3 (01:36:18):
Higher intelligence, yeah, more a superior or supreme being. I
don't think that they created everything, but I think that
they can do things we can't, and maybe they're a
lot bigger than we are.

Speaker 4 (01:36:31):
Yeah, so lesser God. Yeah in a sentence, we've covered
quite a lot of things, you know, we have.

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Yeah, we certainly have a few tangents. Yeah, well I
think it's nice to do that. Well, thank you, Jordan,
thank you for joining me to chat with you again.

Speaker 4 (01:36:52):
Hopefully there'll be more.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Yep, I'm sure they will.

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
I keep reading. I keep finding some crazy things.

Speaker 3 (01:36:58):
Yeah, yeah, you keep doing it.

Speaker 6 (01:37:01):
And the book that I'll just show you quickly before
I go, the book that I posted today, it's got
a new cover on it because it's really old.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
But that's it there. I don't know how well you can.
Can you see that?

Speaker 4 (01:37:16):
A focus into the obligations of Christians and the use.

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
Yeah, so they're recovered it it's very old.

Speaker 4 (01:37:26):
The other one that the sixteen ninety five one i've
I've got on the way. I've also got seventeen or
seven and seventeen forty. I think it is. They're all
getting they're all getting restored at the minutecause they're in
poor condition. But it should be done around end of month.
So I'll tell you what. I might have a book
a few days off work to stop.

Speaker 3 (01:37:46):
Yeah, sit and read them. Yeah, this is the one
I'm taking on holiday. This is my latest book and
I really kind of John AMers sent me this sixty
degrees so on the yeah, it just literally come out.
So this is my this is my reed. So that's

(01:38:08):
going with me to Portugal right on that bombshell as
they stay on top gear or the ground tour, depending
on what you're watching. It was a pleasure in honor
as always, as always, thank you thanks for joining me.
I shall speak to you soon, my friend.

Speaker 4 (01:38:25):
You certainly will take care Jordan.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
Thank you, bye bye.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
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