Spirits, Signals & UFO Lights: Dr. Zsych’s Paranormal Journey – Part 2

In Part 2 of this episode, Dr. Zsych shares his fascinating and eerie experiences with the paranormal, including UFO sightings, ghostly encounters, and the strange happenings in his home. He recounts stories from his childhood, his family's connections to the supernatural, and his adventures in ghost hunting. The conversation delves into the nature of hauntings, the possibility of being followed by spirits, and the chilling evidence captured through electronic voice phenomena (EVPs).

In this engaging conversation, Amanda McKenna and Dr. Zsych delve into the world of the paranormal, sharing eerie experiences and ghostly encounters. They discuss unexplained noises, the haunting of Boothill Cemetery, and the importance of respecting the dead. Dr. Zsych shares personal ghost stories, including encounters with spirits and messages from loved ones, highlighting the emotional connections that transcend life and death.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
You know, for effect, Dear our aliens.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
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an alien threat. Perhaps we need some outside universal threat
to make us recognize this common bound.

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The Epstein files have been released.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
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happens now is happening for sure.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Now, welcome back, guys to another episode from Across the Pond,
which joined for a part.

Speaker 5 (01:04):
Two with Doctor Pyke.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
If you haven't listened to part one, make sure you
go and listen to that.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
He's here today to discuss some other worldly experiences. He's
had some paranormal experiences. Maybe what some of his neighbors
have experience that have been related to him that correspond
with his own story.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
So Doctor Psyche, welcome back to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Hello, I'm going to be back.

Speaker 5 (01:32):
Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
How are you being? How you doing good?

Speaker 3 (01:36):
Good fantastic? But you did get cut off the last time.
Hence why we're doing You know what I do need
hence while we're doing a part two. But yeah, so
I think the last story you had was about this
like this spear coming across the field.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
You know, it was it was yeah, I mean, like
I said, it was, I mean, it was. It was
completely It was beyond anything I you know, I would
have ever imagined I would see anywhere, let alone right
over my house, just right flowing right over my backyard.

(02:19):
I can't imagine. It was probably going much more than
you know, I don't know, you know, eighty miles an hour,
maybe you know, seventy five. I mean, it's hard to say.
When things are in the air, they go slower, but
it was. It was just it felt more like a drift,
but it definitely had enough of the clip to feel
like it was Howard, you know, and it was not

(02:40):
being affected by any of the cross winds or any
I mean, the wind was definitely going against it. And
that was you know, that was the real telltale on
on that. It's like, well, it's going against the wind,
so it can't be being pushed by it. And I
watched that go off into the horizon, you know it
it just kept going off towards the north, the northwest

(03:04):
more a little bit more towards the west, but in
that general direction, which is which is funny because it
was heading essentially towards Phoenix. I don't know if you
remember we had those big Phoenix lights back in the day,
which was just mad. I mean, it was it was crazy.
We were up on our roofs like seeing these things
sitting over the mountain and it was just those they

(03:25):
just kept turning. It was like it was like the
edge of something was just turning, and these lights would
come from behind the mountain range and then go behind it,
and it was just absolutely enormous. And then of.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Course how many times did that.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Happen, Well, we've had We've had different things. We had
on we had that, and in the same night we
had that flying Dinner, uh, that that came through the
valley and it started way up north, coming in from
l essentially Nevada, and it hit it hit town after town,
And the thing is is what was amazing to me

(04:00):
about it was that not only did did all kinds
of people from all kinds of walks of life see it,
our governor seat saw it, tried to do this little
cover up and tried to like, oh ha, Hall aliens
and all this did this big old press part and
then he comes out lairs I got I saw it too.
I watched the thing go right over my head and

(04:21):
we're like, what is wrong with you? You could have
been a voice of the people, but you're checking out him?

Speaker 5 (04:28):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Like, come on, man. But all the way down to
Tucson and they, you know, it was What was wild
about the description on that one is one It was
like a boomerang. It was just this big flying v
all and they had these big circular lights. But everyone
and they had no way of knowing they'd be giving
the same descriptions, which you know how hard it is

(04:51):
to get witnesses to agree on anything, but they all
say they all did the same description, mostly had the
same number of lights, and they all claimed that seeing translucive,
as though they could see the stars and everything going
through it, or you know, I don't know. I wonder
if it was more attributable to like how like a
predator cloaking device, you know, or star trek where you

(05:13):
see disturb it it's like you see, you know it's there,
but you're not sure what you're looking at, you know,
which is still good enough. I mean, stealth, after all,
is about just confusing you more than anything. But I
mean where Arizona is just full of those kinds of stories.
My uncle back in the day, he said that he
used to he used to sit out on his porch

(05:33):
because he lived near on an air force base, and
he used to he like one one summer, he said
he was out there just just enjoying the night air
and he's like, the damna thing, this light just comes
straight down and parks right over, right over the top
of the air the air base. And he's like, pretty
soon will do all the sidens start going off, and

(05:54):
so he starts seeing all this commotions and vehicles, guys
run and then priesser off. They fired, you know, launch
two interceptors, you know, zoom up. Just about the time
they're getting in range, that thing goes either up or
just zips off in the apps addressed with him just
takes off like a bad I don't know, and it
was gone. That's it. He's like out of sight. He

(06:16):
has no He's like, where the hell did that go?
I mean like in a blat. So he's like they
fly around for a while, they're doing the patrols, going
back and forth. Eventually they come on down, they land
helmets off. Obviously, they go back in. They're like, okay,
the sirens go off, the base goes back to calm.

(06:37):
There it comes again, and it would do it did
that over like a week or so, like two or
three times a night. It would just set this base off,
mess with them, and then take off. They would just
split and then come back and do it again. And
he was like, it was the damned thing. He's like,
I thought for sure I'd see something in the paper,
read about it, see it on TV. But he's like nothing,

(07:01):
They're like client. He's like, He's like, only the people
that lived around there ever saw what happened and talked
about it. I I I met an electrician that worked
for a Salt River project and here was alignment. He
would go out and check on the towers, you know,

(07:23):
the transfer towers who carried the the cables and all
that that would you know, channel the power from the
different dams that we have that you know, hydro electric dams.
And he said he got a call on his radio
and to see bas to go check out, and it
was it was fairly up north, and so he goes
up there, figuring it's taught me maybe a bird or
something or something, you know, like hit the line or

(07:45):
you know, you know something something you know, some natural
ub structure of some kind. He drives up there, he's
winding back through and this is this is off the
beaten path. You can't this isn't part of the normal,
you know, like it's it's you know, utility access only roads.
So he's driving through the roads and as he's closed
about the point where he's like, okay, I should be
able to see the tower. I'm not close enough, you know,

(08:06):
to like do anything, but I'm close enough that I'll
probably able to see maybe what's going on there. Like
before it's you know, like another quarter mile before I
get to it. But there's a clearing and he's like,
oh my gosh. He's like, I get that clearing and
I see what looks like possibly an airplane fuselage boom,
like right at the tower. He's like, okay, this is
gonna be bad. This is probably people are hurt, you know,

(08:29):
like maybe it's hung up. It looks like crashed into
the towers, like hung up in there. He goes around.
He's like the next closest fault which is still nowhere
near enough to you know, to like really be on
top of it. But it was a good clear He
gets there and he's like, and then I saw the
damn just thing. He's like. It wasn't attached to the
tower at all, he said. And it wasn't an airplane,
he said, he said, He's like, I swear am I like,

(08:51):
He's like, it was a bona fite flying saucer parked
right next to the power lines. It was it was
obviously drawing energy from them because we we had we
had to drop in the grid and so it's obviously
saying He's say, if that wasn't enough, He's like, there's
these little men on top of it, walking around and

(09:12):
obviously doing what he would describe is he said, my
best guesses, it looked like they were doing some sort
of repairs. It was like some sort of pit stop
or something. Yeah, they were, they were they were stealing
from the power from the grid. And he's like, I
don't know what to make of this, and I sure
don't know what to say. Paul back to, you know,
you know, to you know, to to the head office

(09:33):
about it, you know, try and describe it to them.
He says, I'm watching it, and at one point one
of them stops, looks over, stands up and is staring
right at me, and he's like, I got cold hills.
He's like, okay, maybe it's a good time to back
up and take the track the other way, he said.
But then they went back to it too, and he say,
watched them for a little bit, and so he's like, well,

(09:54):
they don't seem to be at these so I'm gonna
try and get a little bit closer. He's he drove around,
he said. By the time he got the next thing,
it was off like a shot. And this was up
somewhere close to where we had that the logger thing
with the fire and you know they did the fire
in the sky, you know, they had the big thing
back and that's the same time really about the same

(10:15):
time frame. And he actually had mentioned that back then
that it was around the same area, which is also
where that that camp was that I was at. I
was within about thirty minutes of the fire and the
sky location. So that's that's like spooky central up there,
and you know the forest and all that up like
Payson and north of Payson up you know, like you know,

(10:37):
the the rim and all that. So yeah, there's a
lots of spooky fun to be had as far as aliens,
and I mean we see, we see lights, you know,
like just like do odd things all the time flying
over you know. I've done the satellite tracker to what
you know, to be able to discern between you know,
what is normal satellite activity. And I got that happen.

(11:01):
I'll be like, Okay, there's something. I'll be like, no,
no satellite. It's like, what the It's not an airplay.
But I've seen Oh and the the most recent crazy
thing I ever saw was I was out looking at
the night sky and I saw these a street go
from west to east almost instantaneous. It left the trail

(11:22):
across the entire sky, and trailing behind it was a
second one in a parallel course, separated by what would
probably be you know or you know, tens of miles
from from each other, you know, as far as like
air air you know air, you know, like air traffic.
And I'm like, it was wush, And I'm like, what
if it had just gone by and it's left no trace.

(11:43):
I would have thought my age were playing tricks on me.
But there was these two trails that it left behind,
the disturbance through you know, through the high cloud, you know,
the high It was like a really sort of you know,
like light sort of overcast like high altitude, sort of
like blanket, and it just whoosh, whoosh, And I'm like yes,
and the beat all was that. I mean, those I've

(12:06):
never seen anything. I mean, if it moved any faster,
I wouldn't have seen it. I mean it was like
it was just above a blink, you know, as far
as being able to like actually perceive it shoot across
the guy and then be followed instantly by another one.
And I was just like, Okay, you don't have anything
even remotely that fast. I mean even the Space Shuttle,
which would come in like around what mark fourteen, mark

(12:28):
fifteen on re entry. No, No, you'd still see that
sucker cooking across the star kind of like meteorites and
all that, you know, shooting stars as they come in
you as fast as you see something like that. And
this was two or three times at speed, So it
was obviously something powered or or whatnot. It definitely wasn't
a satellite because it wasn't skinning the atmosphere. It was

(12:49):
the same the same polarization from where I saw it
to when it when it when it love at Arizona,
where Domesico, Arizona, Texas, some parts of Nevada. We're just
we're all kinds of spooky aliens sort of stuff here.
Lots of track, Yeah, I do.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
It's not try and get some photos or like some
video footage and stuff because this is like you know,
conspiracy communities.

Speaker 5 (13:19):
I would love to get like a video or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Yeah, Like, well, the the the one that had I
did have video of the of that too, that was
over that Manner Range in San Diego, and I had
I had that and unfortunately that camera got it was
we were on vacation, I'm taking lots of books and
one of the places we went to was a sea
world and you know.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
They my my situation demanded the get the camera or
get a picture, and I'm like oh and then sued
up splashed in the camera knowing and sound like.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
We love everything. I mean, you don't take you don't
take a camera to a water park. I mean, you know,
at least not the zip black bag or something I
should have had.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
But you know, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
And I've seen things in the night sky, and I've
tried to take videos off it and videos never doing it.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
Justice just doesn't look like you need interference. You need
the cap match stuff to you know, to get it,
to get it really good.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Yeah, So do you think so from our last discussion,
do you think that you've actually been.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Abducted, actually been abducted? What do you think?

Speaker 1 (14:42):
I'm so to death that I have Honestly, I'm like,
I'm freak that knowing that I have this, I've obviously had,
you know, repressed memories that you know, at least one
has massively surfaced in a big way. I'm really concerned that,
you know, I you know, I'm I'm I'm feeling, you know, fairly.
So I've definitely seen something. I've definitely been visited. I

(15:08):
can't say that I ever had any of that sensation
some people have reported of like feeling like they've lifted
off their bed and floated out somewhere or or ever.
I don't have any recollection of being up in any
sort of vessel. I don't know if I'm just being
observed or I have been you know, It's like if
I've been wushed up there, they've done a good job
of knocking it out of mine eye. And you know,

(15:30):
but I'm sure the fear, the fear factor makes me
feel like that's the real possibility that they they've zipped
me up there, they've beam me up or whatever what
have you. And I've definitely had points where I felt
like I wasn't feeling like the bed. So I can't
say that I was feeling like a floating but I
definitely didn't feel like I'm like, I don't feel like that.

(15:50):
I kind of wait that you feel like when you're
laying on a mattress that kind of pushed fast. It's
like it felt like I was on a like too
much of a cloud or something. And then but then
it would be like right back into sleep mode. So
I don't know. We've got enough between three different three
different families that I'm connected to of like unusual activity

(16:11):
and people like with really wild stories, and I think
if there's we're I'm as good and planted it as anybody.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
So can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah, I can hear.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, I'm perfect.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
I was saying, let's get some of these people on
the podcast a years Oh.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, yeah, Well some of them they're.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
No that would be pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, some of them aren't with us anymore unfortunately,
but all you know, I mean the best ones are
probably gone. Actually, you know. I'm like, I'm like the
on the last you know, color of their tales. You know.
My father in law who I mean, he I mean,

(16:55):
well him out it. He worked. He was a he
was a tower guard and u Flor's prey and for decades.
And he said, you know, he was like I said,
I've talked about with people before that he was a
really straight lights guy. I mean he's more like old
Western and you know, like stuff like that. But when
it came to alien stuff, he was all into it

(17:16):
and it seemed like it was a personal vendetta with him.
And he listened to like a radio name. Yeah, he
listened to like his AM radio conspiracy alien channel all
the time. And he was like, I had no idea
any of this is going on until we got there
was something on the TV and he was all like,
oh this this it was all that aliens. He's like,

(17:37):
do you know you watch any of this? You know
of this? I'm like, yeah, story. He used to camp
up there with his brother. He's in the same area
as the loggers and all that, and you know, he
used to he used to go camping up there when
he was a kid with his brother and his cousin.

(17:58):
They go up there and i mean it was like
all the time. And I'm like, okay, so you you're
in that same area. And that predates you know, by
a couple of decades, you know, meat being up there.
But he would he would be on the tower and
he had all kinds of stories from from things that
he saw going across the desert, sitting out, you know,
just hovering leaving you know, like a glow on the

(18:21):
on the desert floor. I mean, it was just the
prison and nothing for miles and miles a mile. And
he's like, he's like, you know, a helicopter. We've got
helicopters come in here all the time. We can see
him coming. We have them come in for prison transport,
for this, that and the other thing. We know the planes,
we know the routes of the aircraft take and you
know he's like, he's like, even if it was a harror,
which he was pretty he was pretty you know, uh,

(18:42):
he was pretty good about his military stuff. You liked
his military aircraft. He's like warriors. The only other thing
besides the helicopters that could ever possibly hover, and that
thing is allowed SLB. So you're gonna hear that for yeah,
He's like, there's nothing to block the noise out in
the desert. You're know, anything way off, you're gonna hear it.
And he's like, but I'd see these ways like they
would just plum down, walk around and then freaking zip off.

(19:05):
He's like it was like he's like every month i'd
see something out there. It was like it was like,
I don't know what they're doing. Well, they're they're doing something,
you know, It's like they've got something going on.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
So have you had have you had work concerns? Now
what we're thinking of a worldly entities? Have you had
any other experiences recently.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Recently? As as far as as recent as a few
months back. I really felt like I woke up and
I felt like something was wrong with the house and
that something was amiss, And I kept feeling as I
was as I got up to to check the house
that it would, yeah, that I would run into something.
It felt like I was just I was just around

(19:51):
the wrong quarter from wherever it was, and it seemed
it was like just staying ahead of me, you know,
Like I came, I woke up very very it's very quick.
I felt very panic, and I felt like, i'mlike, there's
someone in the house. And I went, yeah, I didn't
make anybody else, but I went around and I'm checking
all the rooms and it feels like, you know, it's
like I kept you know, thinking it's like like something

(20:12):
fleeting out of the corner of your eyes. It's like wait. Yeah.
It was like okay, wait, what was that? And I
throw that down and the next yeah, I went and
I couldn't find anything. But the next day, you know,
there was the was the front door was like like unbolted.
The outside was locked up, which was really weird, but
the inside was like yeah, and then I found one

(20:35):
of the windows was completely unlatched and like it's left
like about an inch open, which summertime is not something. Yeah,
it's like no, I'd batten down all the hatchet. The
windows have been closed like pretty much the entire summer.
You know. It's like it's like we don't really open
anything up, and even when I do, it's just very
solid and then locked. And then I've got you know,

(20:58):
a brace to put in there so the you can't
like give me it open. So yeah, it's like I'm like, okay,
there's something definitely a foot, you know, something's trolling around,
you know, tip you know, tipping around during our sleep
or something, you know. And I'm not surprised, you know.
Back in the day, it's more like you know, and

(21:18):
so I don't know, I've tried to like make it inconvenient.
I'm so I'm so sure that we're kind of like
at risk for that that I do things like I
planted stuff and I've set stuff up so it's like
it's if you're gonna come in that way, it's gonna
it's gonna be a pain, you know. So they're not
they're not having an easy time. But Creach play why

(21:39):
a couple of things were undone. It's like they started
with one and they're like, nah, I don't make a
lot of noise, you know, instead of like, you know,
like the way I've said it up there, there bound
to like knock something over, you know. I put things
in the way of windows and stuff like that. It's like, yeah,
it looks normal, but it's like if you're trying to
come in you're not gonna say anything. It's kind of
like you'll step down and you'll hit something, you know.

(21:59):
So it's that kind of stuff. But you know, it's
I don't know, it feels like it feels like, yeah,
it feels like i'd have to say yeah on some level, yeah,
I'm I'm I'm not I'm not over this, and they're
not done with whatever they're doing, and they're just gonna
keep saying yeah, they're like and it's the same reaction

(22:25):
to them that I did to my in laws when
they would just show up out of nowhere and just
to not get on the door. It's like, oh god, no,
So like this has.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
Been going on consistently, consistently then since childhood really for you,
how isn't that Yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
You know, and then we've got other things that go
weird in the house, other things that you know, they're
you know, I've always said.

Speaker 5 (22:47):
Like that you're thinking, might be might be something else.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
No, I think the same thing. Yeah, there's there's like
I think something came with me from other locations as
far as tell me more about well, I definitely seem
to be like I don't know, if I didn't understand

(23:12):
for a long time, but people I like looked into
it and the idea of like a person being haunted
versus a location, and I definitely feel like I think
that's one of the cases with me too, is that
I definitely seem to have like some some thing or
some things that seemed to follow me wherever I go,

(23:33):
because I remember when I first was checking out this
this particular location, it was like it felt so clean,
it felt so big, it felt so lighted air. I'm like, oh,
this is great. This is a nice, clean, open You
could feel it. You can feel the energy, you can
feel it's clean, there's nothing oppressive, there's nothing here. And
then not soon after, you know I'm set up, it's

(23:53):
like I could feel it again. I'm like, it's like
it's here. You know, that that same that same sort
of like slight you know, yeah, slight heaviness. I'm like, well, yeah,
I'm like this place didn't have that. So if it
wasn't here, I had to have brought it with me somehow,
you know. And you know, like I've always seen things,

(24:15):
you know, like like little ever since I was even
a kid. You know, we be one of the first
houses that we ever moved into that. I was really
like in a fair paranormal way, like disturbed by was
the last house we were together as a family. That
was the house that we all like fragmed. My father
left and yeah, everything got, you know, much more complicated.

(24:40):
But I used to walk there was this hallway and
I absolutely dreaded this hallway. It was I'd never been
I never had a problem with the hallway before, but
this hallway was disturbing. It was always dark. It felt
darker than it should be, no matter how many lights
were on. It always felt like somehow it was sucking
the light out of the air. It just was darker
than normal. And I used to sit in the living
room and I just see these things run across the

(25:02):
floor right at the corner of the wall, and they
go from the hallway out along those wall and then
go into the kitchen. But they always seem to be
peeking out, peeking out like is he watching? Is he watching?
When they were sure they had more attention, they they
stir checking.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
You can see that through us, you know what. They're shocked.
They were shocked as you.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
You start finding out like oh yeah, that little boy,
he's like watching us instead of the TV. It's like
he's watching us. So I'm like I'd watched him. It
happened so so frequently, Yes, you know, it happened so frequently.
I got like jaded by it. It was just like, yeah, yeah,

(25:49):
do your thing, and I seem like I tried to
do it more. It's like and I'm like I don't care.
I'm like, I don't I don't really care. Like jumping out,
jumping jumping in, jumping out, you know, like it almost
like they'd sop and I as accepting them, jump up
and down, waved their little hands or something like over
here see us, see what, and it's all I'd be like,

(26:12):
whoa what didn't they take as? So?

Speaker 8 (26:15):
What?

Speaker 7 (26:16):
What?

Speaker 3 (26:16):
What did they look like? Did they have any form
to them?

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Or tell me.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
What described them to me?

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Oh? You know they were like I remember there was
this movie like Don't Be Afraid of the Dark back
in the day with these little like sort of.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
Ringing a bell. It's ringing a bell, it's ringing a bell.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
More Doro did a remake of it, and they were
a little they were definitely grosser, but it was more
I remember seeing that mellowing after and that kind of
freaked me out because I'm like, I mean, I hadn't
seen that. Up until then, I'd seen those things running
around and then I see that movie about those little
creatures running in the house and sneaking around locker, and
I'm like, what is that.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
I know, I know it's a little fairy fairy like
these little fairy nasty like.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I don't know the trouble or anything, but you know,
they they were there and they you know, they they
just did their thing and you know it was uh,
I don't know. After I saw that, then I was
looking at events. We had a we had an attic
uh like a pot patch uh to the to the

(27:30):
crawl stats in our bedroom closet, and I hated our closet.
I hated the closet. And before I found that, there
was a door up in up in the up in
the ceiling of it. And then once I found the
I found I was like, I'm like, Okay, that's not good.
And you would hear it. It would at night, you'd
be I'd be asleep out here like like fumble feel like,

(27:54):
I'm like, all right, look at that shop there. What
are they doing? Yeah, they're messing with that door. I'm
trying to stow it, and I wrote to feeling something
walking on my back one night, something small, maybe either
like a poor leged creature or a pair of something.
And I didn't know what that was about. That was terrifying.

(28:14):
It's just you feel this little feet, the little you know,
almost like pause or big like like big white feet,
and they're just like bum but like they're walking, seele
like up on your back. And then it couldn't have
been more than that big or something. They didn't whale up,
but I felt them like but but but it was
like staring at the back of my head because I
was I was on my stomach, laying myself and I'm like,

(28:35):
I just jumped up and through the through the cover.
It was pitch black in the room and I don't
know where anything wet, but I was just glad that like,
and then I was just sitting up for the longest time.
I was like, and I knew that they had to
have gone off the bed somewhere I was. It was
a bunk bed. I was up on the top bunk,
which man me, you know, they had to climb up
to my bar. They could have they could have gone

(28:56):
after my sister she was right down on the ground.
She was she was brother visit me up on the
top bed. You know, it's like, let's let's go talk
to him.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
They were visiting you because they know that coming you're
getting torch and for.

Speaker 5 (29:17):
Long talk for that.

Speaker 9 (29:19):
And she's she's oblivious at fairs, you know, she was
just you know, kind of her own sort of you know,
like world which was completely disconnected from any Yeah, it was,
it was.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
It was she She had a much more like this
this I would say, like a completely disconnect from anything
from all. Yeah, I mean she just wasn't there was
nothing of any anything that really you know, there's no
real light in the eye sort of thing, like no

(29:51):
sense of any sort of awareness of anything going on
around her. She's very you know, we we had a
we had a situation like one time, I mean she
heard her pers up. Your reality was so scared that
we had this. We had this one thing where my
parents had got home and there was something went head
went bad and there was obviously you're trying to figure
out who did what and my uh my parents thought

(30:13):
to who did it? And I was like, well, car, yeah,
Karen did it. Karen Swann, who did it, and they're like, Karen,
who did it? And she's like, well, he did it
because he's holding the thing. And I'm like because I
brought there, Like what what? What? What do you what?
You know? What was used to do this? So I
went and got it. So she's like blaming me, and
so my father very smartly, like something's not not quite
right with this girl. So he's like, he's like, Karen, here,

(30:36):
I got a cray and you see this Cararen. He's like,
look at this car. She's like yeah, and he's like
snaps it and then he's like here. He hands it
to my mother and he says, Okay, who broke the Carrien?
Who broke the crayon? Karen? She's all, mom did He's like, like,
I broke the care if I broke the tripple. It's like,
I'm like, so she was? She was. I don't know,

(30:57):
but you know, like out there. I mean I think
I'm out there, but then I don't know. She's they'd
be the one.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Right, but my siblings up me as well on the crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
But I've seen this like a month or so ago
in this house. I mean I've seen things, shadows, you know,
retreat into the hall into the hallway. I've seen things go,
you know, peaked around, but the worst one was recently.
I saw this thing and it literally peeked out from
the hallway, and at first I thought it was I
thought it was a kid, you know, I thought it

(31:30):
was After like jumping up to go chase it down
and seeing that there was nothing in the hallway and
finding that nobody was even up. They were, you know,
they were just all like laying down. I realized going
back to the hallway, like where it was up on
the you know the hallways like eight feet tall. I'm like, well,
it was a foot or so down from the roof

(31:52):
of that, which meant that this fed I saw stick
out from the hallway had to have been up about
six and a half seven feet high. And there's no
women in this house, including myself. That's that tall I
could be standing on and that and that I had,

(32:12):
that I had. The thing that was disturbing about was
the fact that it was dark, but it still had
these large eyes. I remember the large eyes, but it
was like it was playing with me. It's like it's
it came around and it just was walking me. It
waited until I finally looked over and it was like
kind of like the little like ha and then zipped.
You know. It's like it definitely like acknowledged. It was

(32:35):
waiting for me to look at it, and then once
I did, then it's like catch me if you can,
and it just bolted, you know, and I'm like, that's
the one that was I mean recently, it's like, I
don't that's a new one. I don't know what's up
with that. I don't know why or what brought it here.
I probably I don't I on things like this sometimes.

(32:56):
I mean I've done some ghosts, you know, the ghosts hunting,
and gone out and did like ev P s and stuff,
and I tried not to bring anything back with me,
but you never know, you know. We did a I
went to a place up north called the Grand Hotel
in Jerome, and it's it's pretty infamous for all of
its hauntings and all the activity it has up there,

(33:20):
and we we managed to go on the off season
and we had the entire the entire wing. Originally, the
the hotel was originally Jerome is an old mining town
and so the mining company, as for necessity, built their
own hospital and the hospital served both you know, like
you know, half the if the miners had any accidents

(33:42):
or any sort of medical problems, they would take them
to the hospital. It also served the families all the miners,
uh you know. They they they claim that they actually
they actually had more births at the hospital than they
did deaths, but both are very high numbered. And which
was really was that was the while we were there,
when the other people towards the end of our trip

(34:03):
showed up for a tour. One of the ladies who
was she was about eighty something. She was the last
child actually born at the hotel. So it was actually
a pretty cool trip. Yeah, she was actually on record
and it was their first trip back in a long
long time. But she's like, yeah, my name's in the red.
Was the last child born before the hospital was shut
down and then it set up. It sat abandon for

(34:25):
years and years until it was purchased and then renovated
and turned into this holeel. Yeah. With this, yeah, with
all this spook the activity, I mean like the room
we stayed in, the floors in the bathroom or the
original surgical file floors, So that's actually part of what
was surgical theater back in the day. So that, yes,

(34:47):
it definitely, and you know there's you know, there's a
there's an elevator. There's all kinds of stories of different trategies.
They're one of the one of the more modern was
is the the elevator which on the technician had gone
down there's a drop, it's about four feet down into
where they've got a bunch of mechanisms. And he went
down there and he thought he had killed the power

(35:10):
on the on on the on the unit, and but
unfortunately what he's doing is he'd been going down there working,
going back up testing it, and he'd done that so
many times. The last time he forgot to actually shut
off the power. And so he's down there that once
it goes all the way down, it goes all the
way down. There's no hill switch, especially the kill switch

(35:30):
is you're killed. And so the poor guy got that
pancake down underneath there because there's almost no room by
the time by the thing lands if it goes goes
all the way in. So but yeah, I've got some,
I've got some. I've got some e vps from there
that are pretty cool. I don't know if you want
to hear some of them. I could kind of play

(35:52):
play some of them.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Yes, yes, they definitely want to hear the e v P. Yeah,
go for a doctor psych. So guys, just why we're
waiting for doctors to get back with these e vps.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
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Speaker 3 (36:05):
That you subscribe and if you're on YouTube, make sure
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Speaker 5 (36:12):
And doctor psychis fact.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Hello, all right, so get we get a few things.
All right, So I'm gonna pray let's do this now,
I'm like, pra this this, this is the setup. This
is what When I was leaving the reporter, everyone that
had gone on the trip had I had them. I
instructed them, Like I said, we had the entire all

(36:34):
there was nobody in the entire wing. So either though
we were on the third floor, there was nobody in
any of the floors above blah below, or any of
the rooms entirely on on that side of the hospital
or the other. Basically, you know, you know, we had
run of the place for for a few days until
the weekend came. So but it's still to keep gun

(36:55):
on on any sort of noise pollution from the party,
as did everyone to like head out go down and
get down the hallway, and then I would go ahead
and set the reporter in the room because we wanted
to catch stuff out while we were doing a ghost
tour in the area. So this I.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Left this as they You can hear a little bit
of the that's yeah, the voices those actually the people.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
Down down the hallway. And then they got quiet because
but as I'm as it after they got quiet, and
this happened. And this is me standing within a foot
or so of the reporting device, and what there is.
There's three voices. The first point says we love you,

(37:44):
and then there's is a female voice. Then there's a
second male voice in between that says you loved him,
and then the final very strong female voice that says
you loved him. And I could play it again if
you'd like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Please please, Okay, you know, oh my gosh, that's a
psych well done capturing that, darling.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
I've got some more. I just grabbed some of the
early clip. I can send east to you so you can, Nancy. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
And I was down in the room one.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
And I couldn't help but chill a little bit, like
this was personal. I'm like the only one there. I'm
like where are they talking to if they're talking to me?
I mean, do I have an entourage?

Speaker 3 (38:37):
A spooky you know, if you got fans starling, I
wouldn't be complaining about that.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Had fans. I guess, I don't know, but exactly, it's like,
I'm glad to have my back at least, you know,
like the positive injury, although it didn't it didn't stay
very positive. This one is definitely a little menacing here
that that is the only thing we is like either
it's either just a straight out brow or get out

(39:08):
a very gargle.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
Forrows.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
This is yeah, yeah, we don't.

Speaker 5 (39:16):
We don't want to hear you growling. Communicate on down
the hole, on out.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
You know. I'm definitely far away, and it just all
of a sudden, it's like.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
I want a doctor's like, send me, send me them,
send me them.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
I won't. I will.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
I'm not chaking. I'm going to slow them down.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yeah, yeah, I'll send all these. I'll go through the rest.
I've got a whole dance. Yeah, I'll get a whole dance.
It's just because we're gone for several hours and there's
stuff all kinds of going on, and I'll go I'll
go through, and I'll go through it the next the
next sound. This is a little this is a little
over a thirty second clip. No one there, No one's

(39:55):
gonna be there for a while. There's nobody on that side.
There's no hospitality service, there's no not all right. But
you can clearly hear the bathroom door being open and
closed repeatedly. You can hear maybe drawers or like cabinets
the entire room like loot up for a while, and
even like you can maybe make out some footsteps. But

(40:18):
I'm gonna play this now, and then slammed, hold on,
you'll do it again, my.

Speaker 5 (40:26):
Listeners, I have you you're really feeling this.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
Well, it's it's honestly right. And now the thing is,
when we're deal this, I didn't have a chance to
review the time. I didn't expect I didn't expect a
lot from it, really, so we waited until we got
back down in the valley to start sifting through it.
And you know, like you know, recording and everything. The

(40:53):
very next morning, not knowing any of this has gone
on the next morning, where the two there's us in
another group and we're we have we share the bathroom.
It's a connecting bathroom. Right, it's a large bathroom, but
it's connecting, and uh, it's kind of one of those
first drabs. First depths. Whoever gets in there locks the
other side out, and then they've got the bathroom. In

(41:15):
the morning, went to go get to the go to
the bathroom, doors locked, and then I hear something. I'm like, okay,
obviously it's it's I know who it probably is. He's
the only rioter. And they're making all sorts of noise
in there. You can hear the shower run at one time,
you can hear the saint going on. It just goes
on and on and on, and then eventually there there's

(41:36):
a there's a separate sort of connecting hallway that has
like some storage and stuff in it, but you have
a door, and so we open up the door to
that and when I do, I see that the door
is open to the other side. And they hear me,
and they're like, hey, you guys gonna be done in
the bathroom anytime soon. And we're like, we're not in

(41:56):
my bathroom. Who's over Who's I'm like, we're locked out,
Like no, oh my god. We still have to go
get coffee and breakfast and stuff, and he left the
water ago and probably he's either gotten lost with about
packing with so on. Uh So I had to go
on the their side and then sun up. Their side

(42:17):
was unlocked. I go in there. There's nobody there, nobody
every but the thing was the showers were drying. I'm like,
where is this water? I mean, I heard water running,
but they're all done drag but we heard the clamming
and all this. All right, I don't know what that's
going on.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
This is even just you.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Yeah that boy, Yeah, I wouldn't be using the I
probably used it.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
I would have been knocking myself in the like way
that was so cool.

Speaker 10 (43:00):
That ever, Oh yeah, no, please please please, yes, it's
it's it's too it's too the same song to do
sing to words.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Our best guest was one thing. I'll let you listen
to it, but there's a bit of a gap. It
says something and then it says something yeah, And to
us it sounded like either a young woman or a child.
But I'm gonna play this for you now, okay, all right,
I'll do that one more time.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
I thought I had. Yeah, that's like a full on
conversation though that's like this speaking.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Now this this to us sounded like it said believe
or help. It's either believe or help and then me.
So it seems like there's a god that we have. Yeah,
we have a lot.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
How long were you doing the ghost something for? Like
over the years we.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Room a few talks, a couple of times we did.
We went back, we sent Yeah, we went back. Second
time wasn't so great. We were supposed to be in
a very sort of popular and you know, paranormally charged
room that involded a living.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
Famous nonsense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, I
listened to that nonsense.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, you go where you're feeling it.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
You know.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
It's like anything we did we did capture was kind
of eh, It's like, yeah, background noise and when that
could have been some of the other people around it
was more centrally a low room, So we kind of
chucked that one up to Yeah, a lot of people
that stayed there, We're hearing other people making noises and
just getting scooped out. You know, we we weren't able

(44:52):
to have the isolation of it. But I've got yeah,
I've got definitely two or three hours of recordings from
the first strip of the room which talked sept and
just the clips from it.

Speaker 10 (45:03):
Yeah, No, definitely, definitely, definitely I want to I want
to hear these like I really because I know that
because there's a lot of interference as well, doctor site
between what will happen now that.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Yeah. I also went to Tombstone, the famous uh western
town in southern Arizona, and to boot Hill to the
BIRDE Cad Theater which a few different ghosts ghost shows
have been to it. Definitely, we were we did a
ghost tour at night, but there was so much there's
so many people and so much chattering there. It wasn't Yeah,

(45:39):
I mean, we definitely saw some weird things like going
on you might see like an orb here, stuff like that.
There was definitely some weird photography sort of things. There
was a mining chef that we kind of visited, and uh,
you could definitely hear some oddities like down in the ground.
But for me, the most unusual and the most profound

(46:04):
experience I had from there was from Booth Hill, which
is the local cemetery. And the thing about the thing
about what did I do.

Speaker 8 (46:17):
It's fine, Captain Kirk exactly it was was the cemetery
booth Hill. And one thing a lot of people don't
understand about, like especially a lot of areas in Arizona,
is the ground is called very leachy or uh, it's

(46:39):
just very big, hard, and like to dig down in
a lot of.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Areas is near impossible. I mean, it's just it's it's
almost funny to go through bedrockers. So it's so hard
and so on Boothill. When you go there, you're not
gonna see a normal cemetery where you know, you've got
like just like flat area, there's no brass, it's all desert.
They're very old and very rudimentary signs like the you know,

(47:07):
the the you know, two sticks put together for a
cross or whatnot. Some named some are nicer than other.
But what you see is these, yeah, the rock piles. Okay,
so what when when someone would die, and usually they
do it in advance because they it's good to die,
so they would prepare it. They could only dig down

(47:28):
so deep and they would basically be excavating rocks and
you know coleachy and all this other, all this other.
But they I mean, they could work all day just
to get only so barely down there. And so then
they would put the body in with with you know,
like a tall picture called very very shallow, very tight fading.
It was only big enough with the person, and then

(47:49):
they would just pile all that back up on top
of them. So you have these big old mounds. Yeah,
and you're so you're literally inches away from the actual person,
from the real from the real deal, whoever it is,
you know, like that holiday or you know, like any
you know any you know, like well, why why it
wasn't buried there? He moved away? But you know all
these other guys, you know, the clappets or whatnot. You know,

(48:11):
you could go there. You're literally inches away, but keep
the walking into the second I walked into the through
the gate, I felt this sort of foreboding, this this
sort of sadness, this sort of dread. And I could
see like as I watched people around, I mean, the
fact that you had all these tourists and they're all
there being just really down right disrespectful. It felt like

(48:35):
the ground itself was angry from the mistreatment, and that
like there was like almost this like the sense of
like get out, you do belong here, you you know,
you don't risk it. I mean, as I was there, longer.
I felt like I was like I definitely respected the place,
and I was definitely trying to be you know, like uh,

(48:56):
you know, understanding of the loss of life, you know,
and the needless loss a lot of times. I mean
we're talking like when we were at the bird Cage.
You go in there and their history is written all
over the walls. You could see all the different bull
you know, the bully holes that were shot to the walls.
And although some of them were definitely just the guys
like bang bang having a good time, many of them

(49:17):
actually were documenting someone who was shot. You know, it
basically passed through a person and then launched it and
then the bullet. The slums were still there. They're still
in the walls. They they're not dug out or anything.
So you can go there, you can look in you're like, boom, there,
they're still there. And so many of those guys you know,
from gambling, from heated arguments, fights in the streets, the

(49:38):
Okay Karral I went to that. There wasn't a whole
lot of the Okay Karral. I think a lot of
people are checked that to be you know, sort of haunted.
But I think I think most of the time. The
hauntings come from surprise of death. I think. I mean
these kind of you know, all these men showed up
at that location. They knew what was going down, and
they knew, you know, they had enough the to understand

(50:00):
their fate. So it did. It didn't feel like there
was anything particularly going on there, but boothill Man boot
Hill that was that was suppressive and it was definitely active,
and I loved I know there's something there's people that
they talked about being there at night, and it's like
it's even worse at night. It's just like you yeah,

(50:21):
and it's just like they really try to like keep
people away from it. You know, there's there's you know,
like there's there's people there there there kind of like
watching it, you know, because they're if nothing else, they're
afraid that, you know, souvenir seekers. You know, people will
go there and try and like grave rob even to today,
you know, try and grab something from their their disgusting.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Honestly, whether you're you know your past, whether you need
your body or not, whether you know your pass, if
people bury you respectfully, whether you need them or not,
nobody should be touching them.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
That's disgusting and belally anyway.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
There are people and there are people who live in
too soon. A few of them that at the time
that I went were actually still related to some of
the people that were buried a boot hill. I mean,
the history is that alive down there, that we still
have residents that are related to some of those that
were buried at at that cemetery. So you know, it's

(51:21):
not it's I mean, they don't they don't bury anyone
there now for modern purposes, but you know, but yeah,
I was like, I was, uh, always very moved by
that location. I've been to you know, many cemeteries and
they usually have kind of a general you know, like
you know, serene experience if when you go down there,

(51:43):
you know, part of if they've been breathing. Well, yeah,
there's a lot yeah, that kind of that that solemness,
you know, that sort of you know, guarded reserves sort
of you know, but this place was it was foreboding.
It was like please, you know, just stay out, stay away,
don't come here. It's like it's been oversaturated. We're just

(52:04):
you know, the most you know, just terrible kind of
disrespecting you know, tourism. I think I could possibly do.
I mean I saw kids, you know, playing trying to
grab at the raps and play with the raps on
these things, or you know, like walking up on top
of them, you know, like standing right on like yeah,
it's like get him down. Well, it's like that's there's

(52:26):
someone's grave there. You know, it's like have some respect,
you know, it's like I could.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Yeah, yes, I completely agree.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Yeah, it doesn't makes me angry, like not angry, but
just like yeah, I just really don't agree with anyone
touching things, especially in them type of circumstances. You know,
it's nothing to do with them. But yeah, it's a
respect thing, really, isn't it. It would be different if they
needed food to eat and survive or water, but it's

(52:55):
not that, is it. It's items that they're gonna Yeah,
before I start ranting about.

Speaker 7 (53:03):
It myself, yeah, well yeah, okay, well.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
Yea, we've got a little delay. Guys, We've got a delay.
That's why it's seeming somewhat. Me and doctor Psycher working
on a one second delay, and that's a big delay
in conversation.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
But it's almost like it's like like your you're Sandra
Bullock and you're you're in gravity. You're out in space,
damn down here in michig ConTroll Like, what are you
doing up?

Speaker 5 (53:38):
Hey?

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Going to respond you don't go around the dark side
of the moon. We'll be okay.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
Don't get me started about that ever. Cheers lovely.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
So Yeah, So, apart from like all these experiences that
you've been having, do you think so everything you've been
describing seems like different types of species?

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Really, doesn't it? They're not all the same.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
I've seen I've definitely seen some different specters and I've
had different experiences. Like, Yeah, at the house that we
moved into, with the with the hallway and all that
I saw, Yeah, I would considered most mostly full body
apparition of an old man wearing like like the Farmers
sort of like coveralls. Yeah, the you know, wow, like

(54:33):
conn actual human Yeah yeah. Yeah. And the thing was
that we knew something there was something off about that
house when we when we moved into it, we knew
he'd been owned originally by an old couple, but that
they had rented out the front part of the of
the house. They like sectioned it off and they rented
out the front part. And the last guys that are

(54:54):
there were part of a biker gang, and when we
moved in, the carpets had to be ripped out because
they the guys would live. There was like oil stains
all over the carpet in the living room because they
were literally greener motorcycles. Yeah, wow, we really saw. We
didn't know. But the sort of the theist that we

(55:16):
bought was that we got it under under duress of sale.
That for the old couple had died and we didn't
know and we didn't know where right, And but the
house is incredibly cheap. It was that same data to
move them to their greenhouse. It's so cheap.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Sorry, you were asking them questions at that time. No,
I mean, I don't know that was it broke back then.
I had to watch a few more horror movies. I'm like,
that's whatever has you know, Like we got.

Speaker 1 (55:54):
Into it because before them, they moved us around the line.
I mean it was like a house a year we
would move and we moved there. It's like, oh no,
now we're stuck with this one of all the of
all the houses, were stuck with the spooky one. But
I had all sorts of things tapping me on my shoulder,
turn and there's nobody there carrying my name like regularly

(56:15):
all the time, sometimes the tap and my name, sometimes
right in my ear, sometimes at a distance, and I'd go, look,
I'm like looking for like who called for me? And
I was like, nobody there. Or if there'd be, like
maybe my mom, she'd be like, I didn't fall for
you should be on the phone talking to somebody, and
I knew she was too far away. It wasn't it
was somewhere between me and earth where I heard it.

(56:37):
One of the weirdest ones, though, is I was laying
in bed and I felt that the energy of the
room change and it seemed like, I mean, this is Arizona.
To say you feel a cold draft is a monumental take.
We don't really have those. And this wasn't an air
conditioned house. This was evaporative cool. Okay, it's like the yeah. So,

(57:02):
And my room was really small, the more my bed was,
it was really kind of closed up. But I felt something.
I felt like something was amiss. I felt like something
was really off. And I saw I had these kind
of like curtains that were next to uh, next to
the bed, and I saw them kind of ruffle a
little bit and I'm like, that got my eye attention,
and it seemed like it moved towards the end of

(57:22):
my bed and I'm like looking down there, and then
I could feel something. You know, this is a fairly
raised bad at this time, but I felt something start
at my feet and something It walked the length of me,
up through my head and then out through the wall.
I show.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
I was like I could I'm already gone.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
I could feel this. There was like I'm like, oh
my god, I'm like that's something walking straight. I could
feel that sort of that that that exchange of like
some sort of like noncomporal like you know, sensation of
something going. It's just like, I'm like, what is going
on here? I mean, the chill any of the since,

(58:04):
I've never felt anything like it again. I used to
get that kind of those sort of like goosebumps or
cold chills, like up your fine thing all the time
that got offs for no reason. I'd just be somewhere
and I was like, it was like way more intense
simon any of those. I mean, I never had anything
that started at my toes, through my feet through night

(58:24):
through night, calves, through my thighs, the hips, the torso
up through my chest, you know, through my arms and
my head, and it was just I felt like I
was immersed almost in like like it was almost like
like like being in water almost but without the water.
It's like you're feel like you're almost like being like
emerged in some sort of fluid that's just not there.

(58:45):
That's the best thing I could describe it, you know,
or some sort of like I don't know, maybe you know,
like some sort of you know, I don't maybe some
serve plasma or something. I don't. I don't know. I
really I didn't see any, but I definitely felt it,
but I felt I felt about it. It's like it
was a war I didn't really care about, like one
way or the other. It was kind of inert as

(59:07):
far as that. He definitely felt like, but it was
kind of like messing with me, I think, you know.
Or I was just in its way, you know, like
maybe where he was where it just needed to go.
But it stayed right through the whole life. But yeah,
so I heard I heard a baby. I was woking
up to a baby crying one night, and I'm like,

(59:29):
we don't have any babies in this house. Like it's
like but it was distinctive of how old.

Speaker 5 (59:37):
How old were you how.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
It was about fifteen when.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Still an adults.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
Yeah yeah, that's goods then do you think, yeah, susceptible
to energy?

Speaker 5 (59:54):
Yeah right, yeah, it's the delay again. That was that
was longer than two than one second. Doctor.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
I once saw. I remember I was over on the
side of the house and I definitely saw things from
to the house, which was really I didn't expect. I
saw the service shadow dart across the side yard from
a wall. There was a wall between us and the neighbors,
and it came out of the wall, jotted ran across

(01:00:27):
and then right into the right through the wall of
the house. And I mean it was it was. It
was at night, but it was there was you know,
we had street lights and moonlight. I definitely saw, you know,
because looking down the side yard, I was looking towards
the you know, the back guard. I could definitely see everything.
And the thing that was with that one is I
wasn't alone. My cousin was with me, and I'm like,

(01:00:48):
tell me, he's like that you just saw that. I'm
like all right, yeah, and he's like I saw it too.
I'm like he's like that's that was the damn just thing,
and that's what got him curious about like He's like,
you know what's going on there? Oh? I did? I did.
I haven't been able to find the recordings, not that
there was any real voices, but I did. My very
first EVP sort of session I ever did was at

(01:01:11):
that house. It was a my mother moved out. I
had moved back in. It was kind of functioning as
kind of a caretaper of the house because she had
remarried and moved in with her husband and she wasn't
sure what she wanted to do with it. So I
was just started living there and working and just kind
of keep an eye on the place. And every the

(01:01:31):
nights would you get very odd by myself, and I
remember there was there was there was one night in
particular that there was just something going on in the
back of the house and it felt really really off,
and the energies were really really high and really really negative,
and the oppression just felt like I needed to get
out of there and I needed to go, but my
curiosity was too was just too great, right, So I

(01:01:53):
went in the back and I had a different reporter.
It was the old tape tape recorder and it was
sound it was sound activated, and I placed that back
there and I was like, I just I made a
John announcement. I'm like, I'm like, hey, I'm recording whatever
you do, so you know, have at it, but I'm
taking off, you know, knock yourself out, have fun, party

(01:02:16):
at I'm at so I love and I was down
for I was down until the next morning. I came
back in and surprisingly, like I said, it was a
sound after the reporter it it actually reported quite a bit.
And I was like, I mean, you know, like exactly,
so I'm listening through it and there's all manners of

(01:02:39):
you know, kind of just light groans in the background.
You and you know, just definitely hear cabinet sophening doors,
like like what was there? But I mean, none of
the day I could really. I'm like, if I've had
a camera in there, oh my god, this we'd be
having your time.

Speaker 5 (01:02:54):
Yeah. I was just literally thinking, thinking not exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
Well, wait for this next one. This is the piece
of resistance. I had a big swag lamp. It was
a it was a heavy base and had this big
pole that ArtsEd over and had this big stainless steel
blow right, you know, and had the light it was
it was open at the bottom so it would light up.

(01:03:21):
It was really cool. I love this thing. And I
had that over the couch, so it was like it
was behind the couch, hanging over it. I usually i'd
have it turned so it was sitting over the couch
so I could be there reading as you will, you know.
And so I had it right about the couch. And
this was in the back of the half and the
reporter was like on a on a It was this

(01:03:45):
sort of like wood bar that sat between the kitchen
and the living the delivering um. So I'm going through
this reporting and out of nowhere I hear this thing
and I mean it's like someone like well hammered a
bell of something, you know, like something like that. I'm like,

(01:04:05):
what the hell can ian that not a noise I
expected to hear. So I'm like, okay, I got to
investigate this. So I go into the back of the round.
I'm looking around for anything like maybe a pot saw off,
you know, the counter if in the kitchen. I'm looking
for anything, and I'm just about to give up, and
then a glint of something catches my eye on the
couch and I walked over. I looked down. I reach

(01:04:27):
up and I pick up a butter knife, and I'm like,
I don't remember a butter knife being on the couch
last night, because I looked there. I don't leave. I
don't leave butter knives in the living room. And then
I think, what's about my head right now? What's about
my head is that lamp. The lamp was firsteine before

(01:04:50):
I look, and I look at right right from where
the knife is. The edge was splinging this direction. I lifted.
I'm looking at the knife and I can see Dad
in the side of my lamp. In the steel. This
is thoroughly big gage steel dome, and an arch or
dome inherently is strong to begin with, so denting that

(01:05:12):
takes some force. That's not it. It's not just a dbent.
I can see there's a crease, and in the crease
are the teeth marks from the knots. And I go
and I even I'm like, there it is a night.
It took a knife from the kitchen drawer. So one
of the noises I hear is a door opening, and

(01:05:36):
it takes up a knife from the kitchen drawer, and
it took it into the living room, which is a
good twenty feet worth of walking, and then through it
at fourth my ramp.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
Yeah, I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Message received you hold my I got it my knife.
I'm like, I'm like and sass, I'm making road with
your bath or get somebody else in here. I'm like,

(01:06:15):
I told him, like, I'm like, that's it. I'm done
with that part of the house. Like close that up,
and it's like you can have It's like we're just
gonna be like roomies. Maybe you saying your start off,
but you're the old house and that's where I saw

(01:06:35):
the old man. So I didn't know if it was like, yeah,
was it the old man? Just out, yeah, my house,
get out of my house. This will show you, you.

Speaker 5 (01:06:47):
Know, like yeah, because it's quite an aggressive.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Sul ghost fight. But he sure did. So I'm like
I'm out and then no more. I'm like yeah, So
I was like, there's a there's definitely there's always been
something there, you know for sure. I mean that was
the biggest evidence. I mean to ye know, that's that's

(01:07:13):
that's right there with like ghost Patrick Swayzey, you know,
like the crazy bar in the sub boy, you gotta
move it with your mind. Yeah, it's all up here. Now, boom,
take an air. Throw that some guy's lamp, you know,
let him know who's fo.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:32):
I was so mad about my lamp cheer. I'm like
a little bit lamp. And then it's like it's not
a big old dun and it's like in the most
obvious of SAgs on it. I can't do anything about.
I'm like, man, you know, could you done something else?
You know, like grab the pen, a piece of paper
written a strongly worded note. They all throw them.

Speaker 5 (01:07:50):
Out like guests out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Then see all these shows. But no, no, you brought
knives into it and personal property. It's like, but yeah,
that was that was so I definitely spanned. There's like
a spectrum of my experience. I love you, we love you.
I want to stab you with a butter knife us

(01:08:22):
from the spirit world here.

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
Oh my god, but you left that house sitting here.
You left that house. You've left that house.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
No, no, I did leave that house. Yes, my mother
eventually moved back and they lived there until she passed away.
She passed away in the house. So I was that.
I was really like, that was bittersweet because I'm like, yeah,
it's like I feel like, well, it's like I hope
she's not. And when you have a house, it's honey,

(01:08:54):
I'm always like I don't want my mom to be
like somehow trapped in that house. You know. It's like
most you, okay, very hard lives. My mom had a
very low she excuse me. She was actually she was
born with a hole in her heart. And back then
they they were it was it was all experimental surgery.

(01:09:14):
And she she spent most of her childhood in a
children's ward of a hospital where she saw them bring
in from all all around, all different states, when children
with the same condition, and she would get to know
these kids and then they go for surgery and that
would be it. She'd never you know, she'd have to
say goodbye. And she like she was like one of

(01:09:36):
the few first surviving children of you know, like repair
surgery for holes, you know, for the whole, for that
that syndrome. And she made it. She made it most
of her life up until she was about seventy five,
seventy six with it. But they unfortunately they were going
to be placing a new placemaker with the shop for

(01:10:01):
sort of to re stable, the uh, the heartbeat and uh,
you know, insurance, insurance and all that dragged their feet
long enough that she we lost her. You know, it
is what it is. But I hope she's a I
had dreams. I don't know if you know about the
phenomenon of you know, like spare dreams kind of like

(01:10:24):
like in the sixth sense, where when you're when you're
kind of asleep, they can kind of come to you. Yeah,
that sort of phenomenon. And I've had that happen a
couple of times with family members that had passed on.
They visited me like white up. Yeah, and my mother
did that. She did that a few times, mostly trying
to convince me to be kind to my sister. Just like.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
We have retime conversations.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
It's not hey, I love you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
I was like yeah, but I'm like, oh, I'm like
it was. It's definitely with a very you know, it's
a very you're very aware of dream You're very like
walked in it's like a waking dream. It's no a
dream state. But this is this is all too real,
Like you're very hyper aware of everything. It's more like
it's more like being in a parallel universe. Almost like

(01:11:17):
you just stepped into a world where that person isn't
dead anymore, and they're like right there. You can talk
to them, hog them, you can touch them, and it's
all very real. It's very viscerally there. It's you're in
the moment, and I mean it's indistinguishable until you wait
and it's like, whoa, where the heck was you know?
Where was It's like some sort of I don't know,

(01:11:38):
it's like uh, you know, maybe uh uh uh an
in between place where where where the two you know,
for that veil, where where the veil is standing where
we can kind of like, yeah, cross over and we
can both meet up. But yeah, but yeah, most of
the time. It was the last time I saw her though,
which was really which was really sad, was she wanted

(01:12:01):
to let me know that she brought Jimmy with her,
her husband who had well I didn't know head died.
I didn't even know she brought him for a visit,
and he just wanted to say, hey, I love you, man,
and you are always appreciated, you know you and all that,
and you know, but me and me and your mom
were good and we're we're happy and all that and

(01:12:21):
I'm like wow, and I told everybody, I'm like, well,
this is really freaky. I'm like, I don't think this
this lastly, itsn't really real. And then I find out
later because his sonshimes said, oh yeah, he passed away,
and he had passed like right around the time. He'd like,
right right before I had that, you know, like right
before I had the dream. So I'm like, didn't and

(01:12:43):
my mom brings him to me and I mean to vote.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
When someone I'm like, wow.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
I'm like, that's that's that's spooky. You know, that's definitely that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:01):
It's actually a real gift as opposed to even speaking you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Receive. Yeah, it definitely feels like a gift when it happens,
for sure, you know, you know, it's like it's it's
it gives you that closure you wouldn't wouldn't have otherwise
where you can see that they're you know that they're good,
they're they're they're feeling good, they're happy. You know, everything's
everything's fine, everything's settled, you know, everything's contented. Contentment is tweet.

(01:13:32):
I always say that if you you can live a
life of contentment, you're you're aces, you know, because I mean,
how many people, yeah, how many people you know are
really contented with their with with their you know, their
current state, you know, whatever it is. I mean, you've
got to live in contentment. I have to be groud,
you grateful and have gratitude for the for the good

(01:13:54):
that's in my life. And if I'm not enjoying what
this is right now, I'm not going to enjoy what
comes down the road either, you know. So and you
get that, you know, like they're finally they're definitely in
that state of gratitude and and you know contentedness, which
is you know, it's you almost want to stay. They're
with them, but you know, we're not invited yet, so

(01:14:16):
I got to go back.

Speaker 5 (01:14:18):
We're not invited to the party yet.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
You know, doctor Sich, thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (01:14:26):
I really appreciate you coming on. And obviously you know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
I still appreciate you. Was dying, no thank you. The
phone was.

Speaker 5 (01:14:36):
The phone.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
The phone was sorry guys, if you're watching it vishally,
you know anyway, the phone had died the last time.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
And I do.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Appreciate you coming back on finishing this conversation, and I
know it's not going to be the last we hear
from you. I want your spirit box recordings sent to me. Okay,
is there anything you want to say to the listeners
before you go anything?

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
Just yeah, keep everyone, keep watching this lady start racket.
Thank you, boss Andra bullet down that way past gravity
and all her birth and she's just gonna be up
in the stars and we'll all have to appreciate her
from the ground there. She is canslation, Amanda.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
You know, one of those, one of those, one of
those pet rackets, and try and like get up paid
enough and I can wave at you.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
Oh your good stuff. You really are all right. Thank
you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
And and like I said, guys, thank you so much
guys for listening today.

Speaker 5 (01:16:01):
And like I said, if you miss part one, do
make sure you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
Go back and listen to it because it's very, very enlightening.
And there is another exactly two parts of this story.
Make sure you listen to them both. And until next time, guys,
take

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
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