The Classroom Battlefield: Ryan Aitch and the Fight Against Wokeness in Education

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Now, good evening, Welcome to another episode of Across the Pond.
You're with me, your host for the evening Lee, as
well as the core host Andy, his beautiful, beautiful, round
hairless head. You can see there in the middle of
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Speaker 3 (01:15):
Molded the god that is. And tonight we've got a
special guest with us.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
As you know, on this channel, we like to get
into the subjects that other people tend to avoid or
skirt around. We talk about conspiracy, we talk about theories,
paranormal and all things sort of relevant and especially relevant
in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Now is the jail.

Speaker 5 (01:35):
Sort of political state of the world and the way
things are going.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
The way things have been going.

Speaker 5 (01:41):
For the last thirty years or so maybe longer, and
sort of the direction we're going. And we've got a
guest on tonight is a chap I know from the
old days, a former military man as well, and he's
not just taking it lying down, he's doing something about it.
So tonight, Ryan, the floor is yours. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
How are you doing, Chase me, I'm great, are you?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Yeah? Very good? Thanks mate.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Now we've we've been looking a little bit online. We've
had a chat back and forth a few times over
the last few months and that, and you know, we've
seen the way that the world is sort of moving
in and I think we could probably both agree that
you're not.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Overly happy about it.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
I think it's important first that the viewers and the
listeners sort of get a feel through as you are.

Speaker 3 (02:22):
Obviously me just saying ah, I as a guy I
know from the old days. That's great. But let's put
a bit of mate on the bone.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
So Ryan, you do do, feel free to tell us
mate about you, where you're from, what you do, what
your background is and and yeah, fire away.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Right, nice one, Chased so said, I'm Ryan, and I
grew up in Oldham. So I was born in Oldham,
grew up in Oldham and that's just outside Manchester. Single
single parent background, so my mom brought me up counselor
state lad you know what I mean. So, and then

(02:58):
once I left skill at sixteen, got an apprenticeship in
toolmaking that wasn't really for me, completed it went into
paint and decorating wasn't for me, so I thought I
joined the Army between the age of eighteen twenty one.
Ended up having three kids to a previous relationship, so
joined the army where three kids, went through Basic, through

(03:21):
the Army, over to Germany, tour of afghan London Olympics,
and then I finally got out of the Army. Sorry.
In that time as well, met my beautiful wife for
fifteen years, so Binska fifteen years. We both met in
Blamford obviously, you know, you know Blamford, stay.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
From the beautiful area of the country.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Fantastic. So yeah, So after Blamford, Germany, Afghanistan, London Olympics,
and then I finally got out in the back end
of twenty fourteen. So I will admit when I got out,
I did drug. I did struggle mentally, which I did

(04:03):
struggle for years, and luckily my wife my family supported
me fully in the time. I'd say between maybe from
you know, twenty twenty onwards, started looking into things down.
We'll call it the rabbit hole. We'll call it the rabbit hole,

(04:26):
his rabbit hole, the truth, whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Triggered you just out of interest. What was the first
thing that I'd better look into?

Speaker 1 (04:35):
Say, I'll tell you what it was. We was obviously
it was all locked in our houses, weren't we to
start with before we clicked on, and we came across
a woman called Janet Osserbard and she she, I don't
know if you know Janet Ossibard. She'd done a series

(04:56):
called Follow the Cabal. If you've not, if you've not
seen it, watch it, like anyone who's interesting, going down
the rabbit all just watch that. It goes into everything,
and I mean everything, red shoes, you name it, it
goes there. So that's that's where we ended up falling down.

(05:17):
And then things with you know what happened in twenty twenty.
I won't say the name just in case, but things
just didn't starting up. I mean when we're firsting everything
on Telly, before we all got locked down, people in
China were falling down and you know, just collapsing and
singing in the street. But then everything didn't work, Everything

(05:38):
just didn't make sense. So again that's where you start
looking further into things, and then you just keep going
deeper and deeper and deeper. And now we're in twenty five.
Obviously the hot topic is everything to do with what's

(06:00):
happening in the areas of like Rotherum, Oldham, Rochdale, Telford.
You know, you know what I'm trying to say. Yeah,
big hot topic And again I've been passionate about that
for years, years and years because growing up in Oldham,
I's seen a lot. I's seen a lot of stuff.

(06:20):
I've seen how a town, a great town can be
termed and completely changed with certain things coming into that town.
But which way do you want me to go with this?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I said, there's a lot too unpacked there.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
So if we start back, you know, I know, he
asked for a background, and we'll start at the beginning
to sort of move through things. Obviously within the military
using the raw signals as well, correct, yeah signals, yeah,
and calms and that you with the tech, the tech
weasels as we used to call me. So you went
to Afghan and then what was it that made you

(07:04):
wanted to decide to get out? And you've done the
Olympics and stuff like that, you just sort of disheveled
with the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
What was it?

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Yeah, So when me and my wife got married, because
we got posted together to Germany and then I went
on tour, came back from tour, we got married, two
week honey moon, and then it was bumped off to
the Olympics. Then whilst I was on the Olympics, she
was on pre deployment training and then it was a
constant cycle. So then she went away on tour, so

(07:32):
that was two Christmases in a row that wouldn't spend together.
And then when she came back from tour, I was
supposed to be on pdteen to go back on soo
mm hmm. So it was literally a constant cycle and
I was like no.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
Family life. Then that was the driving for life.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
And I admit when I came back from Afghan I
did struggle mentally. I really struggled and I felt back
then and you're looking at what twelve years ago. It
was man up, you know what I mean, It wasn't
really spoke about mental health. You'd go to the med center,
you'd try and ask for help, and it just wasn't

(08:16):
the thing that it wasn't really talked about. So I
know a lot of people who have been in the
military and they just suffered in silence and let it
build up, build up, build up, until the point where
you just snap. And that's the point that what I
got to, and it was like, I need to get out.
I need to get out the army. And I'm an

(08:39):
open book, all right. I tried getting early discharge and
it felt like my seniors were just messing me about this,
going that no, no, no no. And don't get wrong,
I've got respect for the hierarchy in that, but at
that time wasn't in a good mental state. And I
made sure I felt a CDT to get out quicker

(09:00):
by taking performance enhancing I think, you know, I mean,
it wasn't illegal, like you know, your recreation.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
It's a tailors.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
All this time I have had many of lads do
the same thing, you know, the whole process from leaving.
It's not like for anybody else again, listening it's not
like a normal job where you're handing your you know,
your week or month's notice and that's you. In the military,
you give a year's notice. So when you when you
sign your let you hand your letter into to leave,
that's you a twelve.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Month notice from that point.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
And a lot of people they are a bit disheveled
with military life and they do want to speak things
along and failing a CDT a compulsory drug test is
usually a way that people do employ and have employed
to get out a lot quicker. The only obviously negative
to that is there is a blemish on your record
from leaving.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
But again that's a calculated risk that you guys take.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Presume well, that's it, and like you see, at the
time a right, I was a bit of a smart
art as well, so I went through Queen's REGs and
worked out there's a certain way of doing it so
you don't get absolutely done over with it. So luckily
it went down. I think it was a dishonorable it

(10:10):
was an ADMIN discharge. It went down as mm HM.
So I kind of played the system. But looking back,
I admit it was probably the wrong thing to do.
But at that time in that mental state. It had
to be done very well.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I mean it's worked out for the best. But moving
to obviously put life post army. You didn't go back
to all of them, did you. You went up to Scotland,
of all places.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Yeah. So when I first got out, the missus stayed
in for another year and a half or so, so
we still had a pad down in Coventry for a
little bit, and then after a few months we went
up to Scotland in South Asia.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
So what was it that made you go all the
way up there?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Then?

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Well, my wife's from here, right, so we used to
come back on leave, used to come up here see
the family. And it was actually me who said, because
we first looked around Charley area, like the northwest, and
then we looked a little bit further up at Wigton,
which is like it's right in between like old woman

(11:16):
Air in Scotland. So and then I was like, no,
let's go to air like, let's go esher. And this
was like why, I said, because the else price is
a two for one compared to England. You know what
I mean that the cost of living is cheap up here,
and you've got the seaside, got the beach. I tell

(11:37):
you what, right you see, once you get used to
the Scottish humor, it's they're the best people. Honestly, I'm
not just saying that. I'm not saying that. Became scared.
My wife's gonna bust through the door now and say
what you say. But I mean, it's.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
That's what it is. She's in charge of dinner. He's
got to say that.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Yeah, looking over my shoulder, but no, it's it's it
reminds me of military banter, ruppy, it really does.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Yeah, I can understand that, you know.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
I mean, I've always had a good relationship with the Scots,
the lads who I've met in the military as well.
I don't think I've ever had a bad word with
him or a bad word to say against him, So
I can understand that. So obviously, moving up to airship,
it's a long way away from Aldham. A couple of
years there, you decided to do something crazy, I suppose
drastic as some people would have described it. You decided

(12:32):
to up route everything and got to Thailand. Can you
just shed a bit of light on what was just
thinking on that incredible move, sell everything and go.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
So when we originally moved up to air right, we
bought our fest house and then after a few years
it was like, right, let's move area, so we moved
up the road, spent a couple of years outside. Right,
let's sell this one and move back down to where
we was in there. So we got that, and then
it was just a constant move as if we was
craving that posting, like the Army constant moving about with

(13:02):
we're posting.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
That's going to say it sounds like you're doing that.
You're posting yourself. You're still doing that in the routine.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
So we're still doing that. And then it came to
a point. I'll tell you what it was, all right,
My wife's uncle he passed away last year and I
think it was February, and it really hit everyone in
the family because he was one of the best blokes ever, right,

(13:28):
and it just made us realize life's too short. He
was only in his fifties, and it's like, what are
we doing. We're in the rat race. I'm working night shift,
she's working day shift. Like the Littlands in school, and
he's so far ahead of his class. It's like he's
working two years ahead of what it should be and
we went for a parents evening and they said we

(13:50):
can't give him the work above. So we was like,
you know what, let's move abroad. So we've done all
the research and then we fought. We looked into it
and Thailand was the cheapest cost of living, so we
sold everything and then we just went bomb one way
ticket straight over there. And yeah, it was it was

(14:12):
an experience. So instill have done three months and then
came back for Christmas to surprise everyone, and then we're
starting out our new visas. And I went back over
in the January after being back for a month. In January,
it was we could we could just feel the vibe

(14:32):
of we're all not happy for some reason, and was
trying to work it out. And then I think it
got about March time and we agreed it's time to
go home. Because the way this is going to sound
weird now, right, was missing work, was missing working like
physical working because we're physical workers. We was missing that

(14:56):
social aspects as well, even though he was meeting up
with expats out there, it just wasn't the same. And
the food as well. There's only so much rice and
mince and beef you can eat. Because I would not
touched the chicken out there. I'm not knocking the ties,
but the chickens just left out open with no no, no, no,

(15:16):
no chance.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
So it's a different culture, a bit of a culture
shock and missing my flavors of home then.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
But big respect to talent and how they run their country, honest.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
And when was that? By the way, when did you
come back this year?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
End of May? About six weeks?

Speaker 5 (15:36):
Ah, yeah, so prior to that then, So for the
last I don't know, a year or two or whenever
we've been I suppose chatting more openly topics. You've obviously
been quite vocal on certain certain aspects of it. But
what sort of I mean, where where? Why have you
decided to just sort of get involved now? I mean
you've got a lot to lose. I suppose you've come
back from from Thailand. I suppose you're not settled really either,

(15:58):
been back only six weeks this point, so.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Right now, and what are you doing? Why are you
doing it? And you know, talk us through that.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
But what what what I'll say is when we was
over there and we was looking at well, tried to
stay off so we tried to have social media even
though we was being influencers out there like sounds backwards
and a but and we we're just seeing everything. What
was that in the country?

Speaker 3 (16:24):
What were you influencing? Sorry, just just to just to
go sorry.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
So we we set up it was like a YouTube
channel and socials for the three of us to document
our journey like leaving the UK, leaving the rat Race
and seeing if we could make it okay, just travel, yeah,
travel vlogging. But then that took that took so much time.
It was a full time job, you like, with editing, content, creating,

(16:52):
going live. It was non stop that we wasn't even
reaping the benefits.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I got myself an ander, that's what.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I should have flown you out. But they like say,
was out there and obviously wasn't happy in the back
end of the trip, and we're just looking through seeing
the absolute shit show that's happening back in the UK
and everything with you know, old un Rochdale, Telford Rove Rum,

(17:28):
all that stuff. And I don't know if it was
if it triggered something again in the back of my
mind because growing up there was a few close calls
for myself in them situations because it was a predominantly
Asian community and without going too deep into it, and

(17:52):
I've I'll always I always say this, right, I was,
I was in a situation which could have gone drastically wrong.
And if it wasn't for one of the older boys
who looked out for me and told me, right and
you go home, I could have been a statistic I'll
just put it that like that, right, So it's always
been a close thing to me, and then just seeing

(18:15):
everything again and again, it's getting worse. And then obviously,
mister Robinson, like I'm.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Going to ask you about that.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
I mean, you've just sort of alluded to the fact
that this is something that was I suppose personal to
you as a child. But roundabout sort of the similar
times that I mean, you must have been in the
late teens when mister Axley Lennon burst onto the scene
for those who don't know who that is, the very
fairmut individual that brought this to light for the whole
country really back in two thousand and seven eightiesh was it?

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Yeah? So I remember back in like it was either
two thousand and one or two thousand and three, and
I was in secondary school because I left second school
in two thousand and four. But we had the Oldham riots.
Now everyone can go have a look on YouTube and
they're there. And it was basically an old veteran he

(19:04):
got his head kicked in off a few young Asian
news all right, and that sparked a race riot. So
old of my athletic was playing Stoke one weekend, the
Stoke boys came up. The two firms got together and
they went to the predominantly Pakistani community and it all
kicked off and all weekend there was police cars on fire, everything,

(19:28):
petrol bombs getting thrown at police. It was the town
was up in flames. And that's you can still see
that on YouTube. And that's there was a lot of
tensions then because like I said, growing up in Oldham,
I did have a lot of Asian pals growing up
and I was very close to quite a lot. See
once then tensions went that way. That's when he noticed

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the segregation division.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
That came to an end.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
I'm assuming yeah, And was that choice? Do you think
or do you think that was socially forced upon them?
To think so, you don't think it was a via
the choice, then you don't think the individuals just chose themselves.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
You think there was social pressure.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
It's hard because how how do I explain this in
Asian communities? Right, And I've always said this, and I
actually admired this about the Asian community, about the Pakistani,
the Muslim community, they stick together, you know what I mean.
You mess with one, you mess with the community. And

(20:34):
that's what we haven't got. You know, if you're Christian,
like our.

Speaker 5 (20:41):
Part of the problem, isn't it. That's problem not necessarily fault.
I presume that's what you're going to go on to
talk about. It's not necessarily our fault that we find
ourselves without identity at the moment.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
That's something to rally around that community.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (20:56):
So anyway you're seeing this happening, this was the post
all of them, right, and then obviously you join in
the military after there. But I mean you as exposed
to all of that, your friendship sort of dying and
be postponed and put to one side because of that,
and that obviously, I imagine racial tensions have sort of
been high in the vicinity of all them since then, really.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
So from what I believe, all right, they were heightened
for a few years, but I think they've calmed down now.
But again, I noticed as well, like a lot of
the older generation of the Muslim community, especially the women,
didn't speak English. So again there's that segregation, there's that divide.

(21:43):
But I do believe now there is more of an integration.
But I don't know, is that because it's predominantly Muslim
now I Asian or I don't know because I've not
been back to them. Really, I've only been back to visit,
and I won't make every time I've visited, I've gone
moved up to Scotland. And that's just me being honest.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
You know, you say that, And there's a lot of
people I know.

Speaker 5 (22:10):
You know, when we join the military, you go away
for a number of years and then you sort of
you come back, don't you to visit the place from
And there's a lot of people I know who don't
go home or they didn't go home, and they still
don't really maybe a fleeting visit, but for reasons much
similar to that. It's just seems to be a degradation
in sort of firstly the social community aspect of the place,

(22:33):
you know, massively different dynamic. You can feel the atmospherics
when you walk down the street, the completely changed, and
a lot of people sort of you know, they'll put the.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
State that and they're more than happy.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
And again I think more people nowadays are more than
happy to publicly air that, whereas in previous years perhaps
there would have been a bit of a better not
say that.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
But this, this is the issue we've added. This is
where them young girls, the victims have been put in
a position that they're in now because people were scared
of seeing certain things in the past and speaking up
about that, like Manchester Police, and that's been.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Proving as well.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
By the way that's been proven, you know, Dominic Cummings
himself agreed that there is a there was a cover
up and people ignored it, you know, and that's from
the previous government as well. But by the way, you
know they've been in this this government's been in power
a year and there's they've not really done anything. It's
a dance away from the point. So it can't all
be landed on the feet of labor. And not only

(23:33):
that this all began in you know, in the nineties,
really didn't it well, probably prior to that, to be
honest with you, as much as we know, but you
could really sort of point the finger at Tony Blair.
He's the one that opened sort of the gates hugely,
didn't it, And with this problem was drawn exponentially since then.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
And again this isn't me and New making this our
own opinion.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
This is statistically proven. You know, you can see the
crime rates they've sold. It's there for everybody to read.
So anything that we're saying is, you know, although paraphrased,
the starts don't lie.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, that's it, and it's it's like to say, like
you can you can see it. And with the cover
ups like case timers. Well, at first of all, Labor
said no one have a national inquiry, and now they
flip flopp and said we'll have a national inquiry. But
to me, and this is my personal opinion, are they

(24:29):
doing that so they're in control of what gets released?
Because me personally, I think if it's done properly, there's
not going to be a Labor party left.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
That's what I'm thinking.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
And I you know, I've spoke to a lot of
people and and you you could probably you know, lend
something to this as well. I think there's a lot
of people whose heads will roll. I don't think it'll
just be Labor. I think if this thing's done correctly
and done thoroughly by an independent investigator or a team
of I think a lot of people who lose. I'll
be honest with you. I think there's there's no telling

(25:03):
really how deep this could be. It could be a
piece of something else that way bigger, do you know
what I mean?

Speaker 4 (25:09):
It goes across multiple governments, different governments, and then you
go down to different levels of county councils, police forces.

Speaker 5 (25:20):
You know, with the things that we're looking at from
the Hollywood side of things at the minute and the
world of celebrity and showbusiness, there's not a great light
on them at the minute.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
Is that with regards to human trafficking and things like that?

Speaker 1 (25:31):
And you know, imagine getting in prison now, imagine getting
put in prison right for trafficking no one.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Yeah, it's amazing, right, yeah, absolutely crazy.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
But the interesting thing about it is, you know you
could make connections really when you think about this. This
is connected at the lowest sort of political level within
area councils, and it's also in the middle, and it's
also at the very top. If Dominic Cummins is saying
he knows things about it now, if this is connected.
You know, if that's a fact, and it goes from

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top to bottom and there are other people with power
and influence involved, who's to say that this isn't just
one leg of.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
A bigger beast that is all within the same umbrella or.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Under the same umbrella of betrayal, criminality, abuse.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
You know, this is what that could be.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
Could we could be peeling back the layers on something.
So this inquiry, as much as I think it needs,
it will be done properly. I don't think at the
same breath, there's no chance on earth this is going
to be done thoroughly.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
It can't be. I don't think. I think there's too
much to lose.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
See. The thing with inquiry as well, which I'm scared of,
is you see, if more people come out now and
they want to go public about anything that's happened to
them that they've been a victim of, will the people
do the inquiry to turn and go We can't make
that public as we're doing an inquiry on that. You

(26:56):
know what I'm saying is done, it.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Could trap a lot of information. You know, you you'd
lock a lot of stuff down and they.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Can lock it up for five years seven years, ten years.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Really like the hillsbur inquiry that ran on for how
long was it, twenty thirty years?

Speaker 3 (27:12):
It just takes something. It's going to take something drastic,
isn't it.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
Somebody with well, with no conflict of interest, basically nobody
with then someone skinning the game, just somebody completely independent.
But again it's it's it's at this point political trust
or trust in politics is an old time low. I
think if you live outside of the USA, I think
maybe the USA is the only country where the people

(27:36):
are actually behind it, or my majority, you know, the
silent minority, or that the loud minority should I say,
don't like it very much at the minute. But for
the most part, everything he seems to be doing is
for the benefit of the American people and not so
much the wealthy and the elite class. As I suppose,
you know, I suppose again that maybe a topic for
another podcast, but we're returning to it. Obviously, we've seen

(28:00):
all of these issues, the stuff that's been brought to
light in two thousand and seven by an individual who's
just got out of jail. Thank god, the man's almost
considered a hero as far as I'm concerned, and I
hope to God that he gets the airtime in the
publication that he deserves after everything has been through.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
So where are you at now?

Speaker 5 (28:19):
Went with this because, like I said, I've seen a
lot of stuff online recently. I've seen you sort of
giving a shout out to the haters. I presume they're
growing by the days as people tend to get, especially
when they start airing the grievances that could be considered
in the eyes of Kirs Dama far right, Yeah, go
and tell us all about it.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
So there's so many topics right, So basically what I've
done is I've I've thought about it and gone right,
what should I push in this certain order? So up
in Scotland, I'm sure it's the saying. Down in England
we've got something called r SHP which is all about

(28:59):
sets of education and anything like that right on their
website the material for six seven eight year olds that
they advise on teaching and push out. It's disgusting. So
it's to the point where I don't know what I
can say on ah, but I'll just say it's about

(29:21):
the birds and the bees and how good it feels
for a man and what happens when a man gets
that stage, same with a woman. Really ill, I will
send you the links, mate.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
And this is the stuff that's in the curriculum in Scotland.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
This is getting pushed and I've recently found out you
can opt out, you can opt a child out. But
there's a lot of parents who've been in touch with
me since I've been airing this, saying there's a lot
more that's getting pushed a lot on the transgenderism ideology.
I call it an ideology because in my eye, well

(29:58):
not in my eyes, it's fact. There's two genders, a
male or a female.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
That is it.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
There's no in between, there's no like plant whatever you
identifying as. But in a school in Airsha, there's a
teacher that identifies his gender neutral. His pronoun is m
X mix This is.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
The school of your child attend No.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
No, no, apple, Oh, I'll get on in the minute.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Doesn't just carry on?

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, doesn't go to school because of all this we homeschooling.
I'll just let you so this, this mister who identifies
as a mix X, he has been giving out detentions. Apparently,
according to ex pupils and parents of pupils, there for

(30:56):
misgendering him. Now, I'm not being funny. If you want
to be a mix pixie, whatever you want, do it
in your own time. Don't do it in front of
our children when you're supposed to be an example for
these children and teaching our children. If it's English, math, science,

(31:16):
whatever it is, you're there still a job not to
confuse kids, especially young kids are teenagers. Who's again, the
minds are like sponges. They're easily, easily influenced. And an
example of our easy teenagers and kids are influenced that

(31:38):
drink that case I and Finger brought out. There was
allying around the block paying fifty quid for a bottle.
That's how easy it is to influence kids' minds. And
we've got these teachers and the establishment pushing and in
my trying to sexualized children at a young age. And
that is where I'm like enough enough, even though my

(31:59):
child's not in that school, I'm wanting to get the
parents together, be a voice for the parents and say right,
here's the battle plan, the road map. We want change.
So it's either age appropriate. So in my eyes, sex
education should be either a parental responsibility. Oh if that's

(32:22):
not possible due to say broken homes, in that it's
taught a later age, not at eight, not at nine
to ten, because kids shouldn't be worried about what gender
they are, Like there's extragenders like the don't think a
kid should pretend to be spider Man, Batman, fucking Barbie whatever.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
When I was at school, I think, you know, the
only gender I say, sex education weird until we're about
ten or eleven, About eleven or twelve years old, was
there's two genders. That was sex education, man and female.
That was it twelve and even at twelve, talking about
the pleasure or anything else, it was literally a case

(33:03):
of this is a man, this is a woman. This
is what happens when a man and a woman like
each other and a baby comes. That's it, you know,
there wasn't there wasn't any of this nonsense. To my
mind's eye. What should be taught in the school is
what's on the national curriculum or whatever the curriculum is
for the country that you're in. Right, it teaches job

(33:23):
is to be impartial and to deliver that curriculum. We
don't need to hear about a teacher's political standpoint.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Or viewpoint or or any of that.

Speaker 5 (33:31):
But we don't even need to know what he likes
for breakfast in the morning. Truth be told, you're there
to teach the children and that is what got the curriculum.
And I presume you've seen an issue with that and
you've done something about it.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
Now, see in Scotland, because we've had and if we
go down the political route right, we've had the s
MP in power up here and even a lot of
Scotts will say they've they've ruined it, but they've been
all this transgender is and by everything. It's just all
been pushed. And you can't say boo to anyone online

(34:08):
because we've got this hate online, hate bill speech thing.
So you say hurty words, not knock vague, you've offended
someone and I'm sure it's saying down in England, but
in Scotland it just seems to be. So I'm just
going to use the word woke.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's woke, and it's we're appeasing like trying. I've not
got an issue. If someone wants to identify something else
in their own time, that's up to you, but don't
do it in an education setting. And it's coming from
the top. It's coming from the education like system, the government.
It's filtering down right. We want this teaching in the schools.

(34:48):
And it's like, no, why don't you teach kids how
to change a flat tire, how to cook, how to
do first aid CPR.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Yeah, skills.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Stuff's not being taught in schools for the world for
a long time. You know, even when I was a kid,
we didn't get taught a lot of that. But the
practical skills have been taken away. And again you could
say about enough for hours, your conspiracies about why that
is the case, and why the world's.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Being turned over in a way that it seems to be.
And again you could literally.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Straight down the line. I'm straight down the line. It's
I think with all this transgenderism and everything, and I
don't care what anyone says, but I think it's too basically,
stop men being men. Yeah, they masculate men, making the
next generation so soft that they can't function properly and

(35:46):
be men and women be women. They want a confused generation.

Speaker 3 (35:50):
So this then, So what do you think the end
goal is with this? What where do you think they're
going with this? And why are you concerned.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
The end goal.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
It all.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Put you so far and where we're going? Where is
the where is polish it?

Speaker 1 (36:10):
Let me just polish it.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Where's the work government of the world? And this is
not just a UK thing. I don't think this is
a worldwide issue. Why do you think or where are
the steering is to and why do you.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Think with the sexualization of children at a very young age?
I think that is to normalize PDF files and everything
like that, all right, to make it normal because if
you've not noticed, if you've not noticed the right and
I see it all the time the papers, and it

(36:41):
angers me. Someone will get done for having thousands of
Class A no images on the laptop, phone or anything
community service and it's like, eh, the justice system is
letting them get away, and they might go right there
you go. There's a ten sentence for that one person,

(37:02):
but the other ninety nine have got suspended sentences for
the same primes. So as if in my eyes it
goes all the way to the top, it goes all
the way to the top. And this is what the
government in my eyes again is scared of. It's they're
scared of all this coming out properly and they're trying
to normalize it, like like I say, with the sexualization

(37:23):
of our children in school and then making them all confused.
So if a boy decides he wants to be a
girl and he goes through the procedures, that's that's potentially
one less productive system gone, you know what I mean.
So the more people do these changes, the less they're

(37:47):
going to breed.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
And it's weird.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
It's like.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
It's is it's just one big mental mess.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
And the idea then you think they're trying to just
kill everybody off a week in population, make us easier
to control, and it's weakened.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
It's because again everything probably ties in because you've got
the East coming over to the West. And once you
get the certain laws in place and you've weakened the
Western society, is that the path to take over?

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Well if you think, you think about it this way, right,
when you think about sieges, how you think about you know,
what is a siege when the old days, the medieval sieges,
you surround a fortress, don't here with the population, and
oh yeah, you stifle supplies and basically the war of oppression, uh,
and they you know, they essentially starve and fall to
bits from the inside, you know, with and then take over.

(38:50):
They weaken their enemies, and then they go on in
and everything's a nice clean, easy sweep, isn't it. Less
casualty is less mess, happy days. You know, they might
throw some disease in there, some something in there, just
to weaken him even faster. It's a classic tactical, you know,
a military tactic showed throughout the ages. When you look
at what's happening around the world, now, I suppose you

(39:10):
could make a big argument for the fact that that
could be happening. There could be on scale, on mass
a weakening from whatever nation or you know, a League
of nations or whoever's involved, and that could be on
two prongs, because there seems to be working hand in hand,
don't it. There seems to be this well there was,
I say, I think that I think the tides shifting

(39:31):
quite dramatically. But there was a tidal wave of wokness
spreading across the world, hand in hand with a certain
religious demographic also infiltrating all of the same areas where
this warkness was flooding as well.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
It did seem and.

Speaker 5 (39:46):
You could easily make a correlation, that there is a
hand in hand process happening here, an idea to potentially
weaken a population or these once mighty Western empires before
then what comes next?

Speaker 3 (40:00):
Comes next? That's the question I ask, And that's what
really concerns me. What comes next? Because we're not from
being weakers? How can you weaken as any more than
we are now?

Speaker 4 (40:09):
I'm not far away from next next day?

Speaker 3 (40:11):
I think That's what I'm saying. How we at the
next point are were very close to?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
And how does how does a minority of roughly what
we're talking five six percent in the UK have a
lot of control over what happens in the UK? So
I think it's like, is it five to six percent
Islamic right in the UK?

Speaker 5 (40:34):
So?

Speaker 1 (40:35):
How as a Christian nation that was built on Christian values?
How is that? How have we allowed the five percent
to basically come over here do what they want? There's
what is it eighty odd shari law courts courts or

(40:55):
something in the UK?

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Yeah, which is supposed to be illegal?

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Yeah, exactly. And I was watching someone earn this week
and someone described it as playing the victim. Over the years,
you play the victim, and then that weakens us and
we we can't say that, we can't do that because
look at the inquiry that's going on now. That didn't

(41:18):
happen because people are too scared to offend the class.
There's racist or whatever it was, and they ignored the
fact of the demographic and it's fact. It's not conspiracy, right,
whatever it is fact.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Well, this is what I mean about, you know, the things,
the two working hand in hand in tandem. Because the
individuals that you've just spoken about there in question the
only ones, by the way, that seemed to be causing
some serious issues all over the world. It's not just
in the UK, but they're leaning heavily into the wokest

(41:52):
way with the wokeism because it seems to be suiting them. Again,
nobody else seems to be exploiting the woke system for
their own benefit, accepts one certain group and every time
there is a criticism, they're lean into the wokeism and
it says, well, everything is this lamophobic diss and you
know you're a bigger or you're a racist, that you're
far right all they just completely lean into the system.

(42:16):
And then the full force of the left of the
woke just lean on you, and that's what we're seeing
at the minute. But the thing is, and again you
might be able to see yourself, I hope. So the
whole world's changing. The tide is shifting completely. The governments
of the world, they're losing the people and they're losing
them very quickly. And it seems to me that you

(42:37):
could almost argue that it's by design. There is no
way on earth a saying individual or a group of
saying individuals, apparently elite, highly educated individuals could be so
out of touch and so ignorant to the polight and
the screams of the people that they're supposed to be represented.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
There's no way that they could ignore that without it
being by design. So what is going on as well?

Speaker 1 (43:00):
In it it's like you've got the walk the sure
left right, and a lot of them are part of
the LGBTQ movement which has been hijacked. Because I've got
gay family members, gay friends, and they've said the same,
it's been hijacked. All right, Then they're parading going free Palestine.

(43:24):
But then if you went to Palestine yourself, you've been
chopped off a building for being gay.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Again, it's it's it's almost like it's working in tandem.
And again, this is something that gets mentioned quite a lot.
I'm sure that there have been cases or instances where
there's been higher crowd basically for some of these counter protests,
you know, the Free Palestine lots.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
And they'll guys, they are seem to be tipping over
the same signs. You know, they're very friendly and the very.

Speaker 5 (43:48):
Nice until they get on site and then we're all
in a big gaggle, in a big huddle. It's almost
like somebody says, right, go and that's it.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
They're all off.

Speaker 5 (43:56):
Yeah, it's the same chance, the same nonsense, the same
rum bish answers when pressed by people investigating our journalists
or whatever.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
You know, it's the same recycled rubbish and so obvious.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
I just can't answer it.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
It's so obvious that they are there strictly to antagonize
what are essentially peaceful protests, because you know, there aren't
people you know, there's a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
Out there who aren't quite like me. I imagine where
they can control their anger.

Speaker 5 (44:23):
You know, they will react and they will play into
the hands of the left, because all it takes is
one person who is being really touched by some of
the issues that are being discussed personally to take you know,
a sentence the wrong way or an insult the wrong
way and just go nuts and ruin everything, you know,
because they will be all over the papers, all over
bloody it TV and BBC, you know, this fire right

(44:45):
folk attacking poor lefty protester.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
You know, there'll be a blood bath, you know. But
that's how it is. That's how they dress it up,
isn't it.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
The mainstream people just don't care anymore about what the
mainstream say.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
That's do they?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
I mean do they?

Speaker 5 (45:00):
I can't remember the last time I met anybody who
watches BBC News and takes it for what it is.
And same with the A TV News or Channel four news.
I don't know anybody that watches mainstream news.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
So we've got a brand new media now.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Who's been fooled?

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Who's been fooled because they keep saying that we're these
far right fucking lunatics.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
But where's the other guys.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
Apart from turning up on free palestimee, you know, counter protests,
where are they?

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Where are the liberals defending everything?

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Because really gets me? What really gets me as well? Right.
I've seen it at numerous times. There's been protests and
demonstrations against the you know, the gangs, all right, and
then you have the counter protesters shouting at home, going,
oh the Nazis, Nazis, and like the they're there for

(45:52):
the children. And it's like.

Speaker 5 (45:57):
In Ilford, do you remember you say on the news
other day the hotel in Ilford they gathered them.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
In them because it's.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
Yeah, one of the classic hotels that's filled with our yeah, yeah,
our visiting friends. Well, anyway, they all did the protest,
didn't they And it was very peaceful, nobody did anything.
And then this chunter protest team turned up and started
shouting Nazis and this, that and the other. It's about
a fourteen year old child that was you know, that
was attacked.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, yeah, is there to go.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
On the payroll for They have to be they have
to be on the payroll. Someone's paying for this.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
It's just ridiculous. Like the amount of conversations I've had
right with people who are all left leaning or far
left or whatever you want to call it, right and
about the people come on the boats and it's like, oh,
but the men come here because it's a dangers journey
and they bring them, the women and children over, and
I'm like, listen to yourself. See if my wife and

(46:55):
child was in a country for savages, do you think
I'm going to them there?

Speaker 4 (46:59):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
I wouldn't be like, yeah, there's a life jacket, take
a chance. Let me know, get there with this brand
new iPhone and make sure you've got your track suit
on that we've just been given.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
The thing is, everybody knows. It's not a secret anymore.
It's not everybody knows now. The only people who don't
seem to know. And I think even they're starting to
acknowledge it now. For the people in suits in parliament,
I think even they're starting to accept the fact that
there's no getting around this.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
They're economic migrants. They're come in here for a payday
and that's it.

Speaker 5 (47:33):
You don't come traveling through nine or ten different countries
to get somewhere when you know you've found you safety,
aren't you?

Speaker 1 (47:40):
But is it?

Speaker 5 (47:41):
You can't anymore? The less cannot dine out on it anymore.
They can't dine out on that nonsense. Oh they're coming
here to you know, just bring the family over afterwards.
They're not let's not lie, let's not lie to each other.
There might be maybe a tiny percentage, you know, a
tiny percentage maybe, but it keeps itself.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, I mean, this is the classical Trojan horse.

Speaker 3 (48:08):
Trojan I agree, I agree, I do agree.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
And you know, I'm not racist. I'm not left and
I'm not right. I don't even consider myself to be
involved with any of that nonsense.

Speaker 3 (48:20):
Stuff from the left. You know, I like stuff from
the right. There is none of this.

Speaker 5 (48:23):
Yeah, crap, there's just common sense exactly that. It's just
common sense. What's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong.
To discriminate against somebody for who they like or love
is wrong.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
We all know that it's wrong.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
So let them do what they want, but do not
start negatively impacting my life because of you know, who
you like to love or who you like to spend
time with. And I ever got an issue with it.
And I think that's the same now f ninety percent
of the people in the world. Nobody's got an issue
with what you do. We live in three times, I say, really, well,
I think we did anyway until very recently were living

(48:54):
three times casual times.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
People are very chilled about stuff laid.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
Back, but there's this voice that's got louder and louder
and louder and louder imposing everything. It's almost like they've
accepted that we need something else to be pissed off about. Now,
you know, there's always something else. At some point, people
can't just say, well, nobody gives a ship. Just enjoy
your life, you do, you make sure your families are right,

(49:22):
and you know, just try and improve the street that
you live on. If everyone had that opinion, let's try
and improve the street we live on. If everyone had that,
I think local the globe will do the rest, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
Why can't we just ask like that? And we used to?

Speaker 5 (49:36):
That was what the magic of Britain was. That's what
got us through the World War two. That's what rebuilt
the country, that community, the family, you know, nation being
that pride in our sort of our flag, who we are.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
We don't have any identity anymore, and we need it
back exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
And just going back to you know, like the people
coming over and that I've got. I've got friends, Turkish
friends who are Muslims, right, and I called them my
brothers because they came over here twenty five years ago
they came to the UK and it's a story for you.
So I was actually getting the air up the other
day and we was talking about the illegals coming in

(50:14):
and even they're pissed off because they had to work hard,
save money, go to the embassy in Turkey, do the paperwork.
See when they came over, they could only speak basic English. Hello, goodbye,
I'm hungry, thank you, blah blah blah, and these are
their own words. They went to apply for a college

(50:35):
course because they heard, oh, as a migrant, as a
well proper migrant, you know what I mean, who's been
through the process, you can get a free English course.
So they're locked up added over the passports. The woman said, no,
it's going to cost you eight hundred pound because you've
got a visa. It was like what so, yeah, but
if you came over illegal, you wouldn't got for free.

(50:59):
So they and we've got a lot, a lot like
the two Turkish lads who want to talk about there,
they've been there twenty five years. They've done more for
the community than after people who stay here.

Speaker 5 (51:10):
Yeah, I think the important point to touch on there,
just to really reiterate I think a lot of people
feel this, but I think we included. Actually, nobody's got
an issue with with migrants. Nobody has got an issue
with migrants. I don't care what color you are, legion
you are, Okay, what background you're from.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
If you're going to you know, contribute to.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
The community, and that involves everybody who lives within that community,
then you welcome here as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
You know, so you can only say good coming from
that right.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
If you want to come over here and segregate yourself
and take advantage of the system and just basically just
just leach off Britain and British people, then now that's
where everybody's got the problem.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
I don't know if you've seen that seat. I'm sure
you've seen him that the Sikh guy recently is just
blown up on social media. I've all recently seen him,
and he's is basically said, listen, I came over here.
You respect the British values. You integrate. My children are
learning English as the first language. Even there's about Christianity

(52:12):
and that, and it's like, if you are coming over
to Britain, you integrate, you go by the British values.
You don't come over and push your own values from
your country.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Well, the thing is, if you went the other way
and you tried to do that, what would happen?

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Oh Thailand, Mate, no chance you're seeing Thailand. You can't work.
It's author ties. If you want to open a business,
a type person's got a own fifty one percent of it.
So you'll never own a full business. If you come
over even past, stay past your visa or whatever, bam,

(52:49):
deported off you go. You get caught collecting glasses in
a pub as a job, deported off you go.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
There's no illegal migrants in Thailand around them on to
go straight away around zero tolerance, then you'll be the
zero tolerance.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
The point I'm trying to make is there seems to
be this trend across every other country except the western ones, basically,
where there is a zero tolerance on anything that would
go against their culture, their traditions, their laws. It only
seems to be it seems to be Europe. Now, it
seems to be Europe that has this problem. The USA

(53:28):
is tied the knot. They're done, they won't takeing any more,
the finished and they're getting rid of everybody. They're finished
with this multiculture dream. Europe is starting to follow suit now,
isn't it. You know there's there's people getting elected across
governments in Europe now that I suppose you could consider
them fairly far right, as Starmer would look at them mad.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
But truth be told, they just common sense operators, aren't they. Italy?

Speaker 5 (53:49):
You know they've changed everything now, they're changing a lot,
pauland and digging the heels in I think Hungary's got
quite tight recently.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
There the law about the teaching of transgenderism in school
that banned it.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
Yeah, again, this is what I mentioned before. You could
feel the world is changing, the tide is changing. There's
a lot of governments now that are digging the heels
and they're not playing ball with this anymore. And it
seems to be the UK An Island, strangely enough, And
I don't know why in Ireland, for god, I mean,
will when will they realize before the country going to
burn to the ground, before.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
The people who are standing up, No, it's.

Speaker 5 (54:29):
Going to be the same here Island and I think
the UK are very similar. What we're seeing in the
USA at the minute is basically what is going to
happen in the UK. If the right people, and it
will be the right people get in because it needs
to happen.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
There's just I mean, I wouldn't even like to guess
how many.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
People who are in this country that are just genuine criminals,
dangerous people that shouldn't be and they need to be gone,
you know, it needs to be that drastic. And again,
island in the UK where behind the USA? I think
where where full? You know more than four?

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Yeah, and for an island, for an island, we've got
the shittest borders, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
Incredible, really, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
It's crazy all that water and we've got the most
relaxed borders. And like I'm just gonna say now, and
you know, you know my stance from previous conversations, but
I think the only man who has got a chance
to start this cunsh out is Nick ten Coney from UKIP.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
I've seen him.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
I was a massive, massive Farage fan, even back in
twenty fourteen when he's UKIP, I voted for him. But
now it just seems to be bending over a bit
more and more and flip flopping a bit, and Nick
ten Coney is just straight down is ruthless which we

(55:53):
need to make. I'm gonna sound like Trumpet now, but
make sucking the UK great again, you know what I mean,
Meet Britain great again.

Speaker 5 (56:03):
Everybody wants just somebody who cares as much as we do,
you know what I mean, who just bleeds the flag
like we do.

Speaker 4 (56:09):
To people.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
That's it.

Speaker 3 (56:13):
So I've got a question for you then coming up
to the next election.

Speaker 5 (56:15):
Then, you know, there's a massive way of people getting
behind reforming FARAG. They have done for years and you
can understand why. You know, when the party took off
last year, a lot of people got behind him as
an alternative basically to the two tier party or the
two party system that we used to and they were
also saying a lot of the right things that a
lot of the people really wanted to hear. A year

(56:36):
on from there again, I can almost smell the shift.
It's almost changing almost again. And you mentioned Nick Cone.
I seen him on Liam Tuff's on the Interview with Liam.
Shout out Liam, awesome watch him all the time. I
seen him on there last week and he put a
good account of himself across. Everything he said was on theil.
You know, nail on the head, couldn't disagree with what

(56:57):
he what he said really, you know, and a lot
of it was it wasn't controversial. It was just common
sense speaking stuff that we all probably think, you know, realistically,
so there is a chance.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
But what do you think going forward? I mean, if
you was, if you were right now speaking out.

Speaker 5 (57:14):
To the public and the reform voters. Why Nick ten Coney,
why he's he different to Farage?

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Nick ten Coney? He is not a creat politician, all right,
He's he was an activist first, he's done the activist work,
you know what I mean with turning Point, So turning
Point in the UK he was in a lot of
activist work and then he came on board with UKIP
ended up becoming the UKIP leader. And it's just someone

(57:44):
who's got the balls to say what everyone's thinking, and
he's actually acting a lot of stuff. He's personally going
over to Cali to question why these migrants are getting
on these boats to put a stop and they're still
doing it now, they're still going over to CALLI.

Speaker 5 (58:01):
The word is it's his fault that the French intervened
and slashed that boat, the other one, or the slashing
them boats, right because of his he's.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
Put the pressure on them to do that.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Yeah, I heard about that. I think that was mentioned
on that podcast last week.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
But where's for Arge doing that?

Speaker 3 (58:15):
And when he's out on the boats, isn't it? But
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
I don't know about you say. I was very very
convinced by for Arge for the last year I have.
You know, I was a reformed member and the way
I was looking at it was quite simply because there
was three parties, two of which I despised.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
You know, they've made a mockery of this country for
thirty years.

Speaker 5 (58:37):
Now they've had their time, and the way I look
at it is that it's time to give the other
team the ball. And as far as I was concerned,
that's the only one, the other team that's really got
a shout a chance because.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
What I didn't want to happen has now happened.

Speaker 5 (58:50):
There's multiple parties and now everybody who thinks the same
wants the same and he's willing to vote for the same.
Don't know where to put in the vote. It's either
with ben Abebe's party or it's grupput Lowe's party, or.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
Reached out. He reached out to Habib put Low and
said the doors open, let's let's do this, let's sort
it out.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
But the issue is now there is a potential for
a massive vote split, and the worst case scenario is
Labor or the Conservatives coming back in because the remainder
of the public are split between four three four different parties.
So that's the concern. As far as I'm concerned, I
don't know. It might be a clever strategy. Maybe the

(59:36):
left of planned it makes sense. I called it a
year ago, just over just under a year ago. Now
I called it when I've seen reform running away. I said,
I think they're gonna they'll try and split the vote.
And then suddenly you know there's factions and the breakout
parties that are all sort of promising the same thing
now and they're split in the vote.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Could this be by design as well?

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Possibly because it's I won't mean beside, who is it?

Speaker 5 (01:00:05):
Is it Rupert Low, is it Ben Habibe? Nigel Farage?
Who's the insider who's poisoning the well? Or because you
just thought they'd understand being as highly educated as the eye,
you'd have thought they'd understand the need to be unified
behind the course. Whatever that may be and work out
your probably behind closed doors, wouldn't you'd think that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
So is this by exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
It's it's a good chance. It is a good chance.
But it's like I say, we've we exchanged voice notes,
didn't whilst I was in Thailand, and I remember saying
to you, I was like, listen, go watch Liam Tuffs
and Nick ten Coney's first podcast. Yeah what you think?
And you was like, you can't be splitting the vaults.

(01:00:48):
I said, trust me, this bloke, the Purple Wave is coming.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
He's got me convinced. He's convinced me off the back
of that interview, I must say.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
And it's just I'm hope Pin there is a big
shift because three nine years whatever it is is a
long time in politics. It's a week A week is
a long time in politics. So we'll see what happens.
But like I said, if anyone, Nick's got marvel one
and what is it that you're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Then now, I mean you do.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
I mean you've been taking a lot of flak online,
so just to finish off or just to wrap it up, really,
so what are you doing about it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
You're in your own personal piece of the country.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
In I'm trying to build a community, a network of
like minded people who are concerned about the safety of
the children in our community, because we've had a couple
of incidences of people in parks taking pictures and all that.
So I've called for the people of Airshia to come

(01:01:52):
together it start being a bit more vigilant, bit like
a neighborhood watch and basically start looking after each other.

Speaker 4 (01:02:01):
Shield and Liverpool.

Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
They're doing a similar thing. What's your opinion on that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
My honest opinion.

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
Yeah, go on and give you your opinion. I mean,
I'm I'm again, I'm in passion. I'm on the fence.
I see what they're doing. What you just said that
that describes sort of similar to the mission.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
So God what I will say about the Shield. The
Chris who was running it a lot has come out
in the open recently about basically at the beginning when
it first started off, right, I was I was off
for it. I was like, oh great, I got in touch.

(01:02:44):
I was like, I love to help out and they said,
oh what are you and blah blah blah. I said
South Asia. And then Rex, the bloke who was the
recruitment guy whatever, he emailed me and said would you
like to be the county manager for your area? So
I was like, yeah, sound. Then someone got in touch
with me, a highly respectable person within the child protection

(01:03:08):
industry know that wile the Hunters got in touch me,
and I said, do you do diligence whatever, that's a
big word for me, but do you your checks right
before you jump on board? So I was like all right.
So me being a digger, started digging and I was like,

(01:03:29):
does it make sense to me? Now? You know your
selfly right as ex military if I turn around to
you now and I said to you, I've got eighteen
ex intelligent officers on my team now for this thing
that's been running four weeks. What you're going to say
to me, bollocks, that's what you're going to say. You're

(01:03:51):
going to say, eighteen officers, you know, the ones around
forty to fifty grand a year and apparently've just they've
come out to the army and now the part your
team as me as an outlaw biker, everything that add
up to me and now a lot of people have

(01:04:11):
separated away from the Shield. And it was actually mister
Robinson as well. He outed it because the guy who
the biker guy Chris. He actually put a post up
about what's the guy Pops Pop Pops Sally.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Yeah, I seen that post.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Yeah, so they've actually I mean, you see, this is
interesting because I heard an opinion from a chap in
Norwich who had a I suppose they were wanting to
get involved with the shield at one point, but maybe
it went sour. I don't know, but I've seen him
airing his grievances over that, and his opinion on that was,
you know, a lot of these women and a lot
of these girls are very intimidated by people from within

(01:04:51):
a specific demographic, religiously and cultural.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
And the last thing that they would want is and
again this is not saying years by the way. You know,
it might be a great person. It might be, but
the point is it's the majority. It's the victims who
should make that decision. Now, if the victims are the
people who are the vulnerable ones that we're supposed to
be protecting, aren't comfortable with that, and for obvious reasons
they may not be, perhaps that's not the best position

(01:05:17):
to be putting those people in.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
There is an argument for that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
And another thing that didn't make sense to me as well,
was let's say the fifty five pounds for you to
be a volunteer right to have a role within this CIC,
this charity finger O, whatever it is c IC, and
that covered the cost of your DBS check. You can
go get a subject access request from ACRO from the

(01:05:43):
police for free. That's more in depth than a DBS check.
And I've had multiple people argue with me and I've said,
you know what, I'll make it easy for you. Go
and chat GPT because it'll do the work for you
and say what is like, what's more in depth? And
it comes back the SAAR from ACRO is more in depth.

(01:06:03):
So you get that for free. So there was wanting
fifty five pounds for the year for a DBS check
and then also the ID cards that you was going
to get was costing him twenty four pounder card to do. Now,
I didn't pass maps at school, but I can do
that maths. A DBS check you're looking at forty to
fifty quid plus your ID card of twenty four quid,

(01:06:27):
so you are running in the red straight away. So
things didn't add up to me with that, and that
I've got a lot, a lot of slack and hate
the message I got of people who had bought into
the shield.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
You've already we've already seen evidence of it working or
the idea the concept of it working. Early days, we've seen,
you know, victims that we've sort of been rescued and
not rescued. I suppose there's.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Been an intervention.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
We didn't see them, did we.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Well, we haven't seen it now, that's true, But as
we've seen how we've heard interventions that have benefited individuals.
I haven't personally seen any success stories from the horse's
mouth yet, but that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
I could say, I could say it helps an old
woman across the street earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Well, I suppose as well.

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
But don't get wrong, right, the concept of it is amazing,
it's amazing, and it's it's I think he's a great
salesman because as a salesman, you push on the pain points.
So the pain point of the whole UK at the
moment is women and children's safety. That is a massive
pain point. If you push the right point on that

(01:07:36):
pain point, everyone's gonna fall into lap.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
And when we see a lot of people are sort
of using it as a crutch, don't they?

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Yeah, because it has it has got the potential, but
it's ran a certain way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Mm hmm. It's an interesting one to be honest with you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:57):
I mean what we've got on in the pipeline coming
up now, we've got two couple of guys who've got
the Great British Protest Rich Dohnson, great guy ex military chap.
He's scrambling up the well still, you know, with the
Great British Protest there on Phase two.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
That's happening this Saturday this weekend. Yeah, I don't know
how that's going to go.

Speaker 5 (01:08:15):
Hopefully he's still got momentum and hopefully that cause is
still going strong.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
So he's on with that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:21):
And then you've got mixed to mister y Axley Lennon.
He's running his free speech parade on the thirteenth September
in London September.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
I have a feeling that could be a big one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
That could be really he's going to be massive. That
is going to be massive because the more everything's come
out now and you've seen it, everyone's in it. How
it's just shifted and there's going to be all there
and it's.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
I think you want some of these groups to work together,
don't you like with the with the Free Speech Parade
and the Great British Protest. I mean, from everything I've
seen in the Great British Protest, it's been classy from
the beginning, you know, and there's there's yeah, it's been
it's been a classy setup.

Speaker 1 (01:08:59):
There hasn't been a military as well.

Speaker 5 (01:09:02):
Yeah, there hasn't been any sort of going for the
juggler or anything like that. Everything's been above board, you know,
polite and well mannered. And I think I think Rich
has done a really good job with the Great British Protest.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
And I feel for him as well. I feel because
a court case coming up about question his parenting skills
all this.

Speaker 5 (01:09:22):
I'm like, well, that's the thing is that these people
now and again this is the public perception of the
people in the establishment is so low that we don't
care when people say, oh, well he's getting questioned by
the you know, the child's apart or whatever. Nobody cares.
Nobody cares. We can all see he's a good man,
we can all see he's a good dad. All of
that garbage is just slander. It's just muck being slung

(01:09:47):
at people that have got on a platform and they've
got an opinion that is against the narrative, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
In the last? In the last, I'd say, what three
to four weeks, right, were I've been really pushing. I've
been really pushing. I've had my TikTok parent band band
from TikTok apparently band I count removed. I've had to
start again, so apparently removed. All right. Then I've also

(01:10:12):
had basically potential income sabotaged people complaining about me doing
personal training and a potential class at a certain gym
which I won't name because I've got a lot of
respect for the owners, all right, And they've said, look,
since you've gone forth at all with the the ideology

(01:10:36):
that you're up against, like that you're attacking, We've had
a lot of people message saying it's disgraced so that
you're associating with that with that person, and I was like,
I was like, but I'm not part of your company.
And so that's what we've said. We fully back with
you what you're doing, but a business side. And because
I've got so much respect from I've said I will
step away and I won't. No, I won't promote you

(01:11:00):
doing it here. So that's again, So that shut down
a bit of income for me.

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
Yeah, so they're coming for you then, but at least
do I mean, it's kudos to the employer, you know,
for making sure. I mean, did they kept you on?
I assume you just did. You did the honorable thing
in step two.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
I wasn't. I was a part of part of the gym.
I was self employed, self employed pt and it was agreed.
We said, I said, can I do my PTS out
of your gym? Yeah? That's fine. So literally I advertised it.
One advertisement they said the phone was like a hot
potato bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang from

(01:11:38):
people around here, And I was like, holy fuck that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:43):
Then, how do you feel about that?

Speaker 5 (01:11:45):
Do you think there's just a big Do you think
that maybe the where wrong and the overwhelming majority don't
want this? The overwhelming majority of the UK public are woke.

Speaker 1 (01:11:55):
It gives me, It gives me more of a rocket
up my ass. It gives me no I think what
it is like like like like we all know, right,
you see the left, they will go out of the
way just to be right and be fucking next mother Theresa,

(01:12:20):
you know what I mean? Like, oh, bring them in
bla blah blah, like that's going off a tangent with
the illegals now, right, But it's they they seem to
come together the left and attack you like full throttle
and they're trying to get your canceled and all this
because they can't handle the truth. They cannot handle hard facts.
And this is what I've said to the folks. If

(01:12:42):
you're happy with your child being sexualized in school at
eight years old and being brainwashed with an ideology, don't
come going to me when you're at the doctors who
have mental like a mental health fucking case. That's the
wrong way of saying it. With a child that suffering
with mental health and confusion due to an ideology post

(01:13:04):
on them, don't come crown to me saying he was right,
because if you've not got the balls to stand up
for your own child, then sorry, but you fucking lost.
You are lost. And it's like what I'll go back
to Nick ten Coney on his first podcast with him,
so he said he goes by the fifteen second rule,
and I've adopted that. Now you speak to someone within

(01:13:27):
the first fifteen seconds your workout, is it even worth
your time? Yeah? Because your work will your workout and
then fifteen seconds you're too far on mate, there's no
point in waste of my breath, and then you just
move on.

Speaker 5 (01:13:41):
Yeah, I must have been in a few of them
conversations recently where you get to know pretty quickly early
on that there's there's not much point that common sense
dialogue with them. So going forward then, right, what I
mean your plan is to get a group of people
together locally to sort of eyes up against the education,

(01:14:02):
the Board of Education about what the teaching.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Via MP. So what what my plan is?

Speaker 1 (01:14:11):
First, I've asked for freedom of information requests on certain
essays in the area about crimes committed against under eighteens
that it kind of ties in with what I'm trying
to do. So we're going to go council and schools
first because first with the council, we want to know

(01:14:32):
how many of these people are within our areas on
that side of the keeping our community safe. But then
also with the ideology and the curriculum that's being pushed
on the young uns, well, my plan is group of parents,
school council first, to the council, take on the r
s HP, which is the board that's putting this curric curriculum,

(01:14:57):
curricular I can't even say it you want. They're feeding
that down to the schools and then see if that
doesn't go, we're going straight to the Scottish government.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
I had a social media movement around this done Have
you got a page your INSTAGRAMM if people want to
follow you and get involved in the cause.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Where do people find it?

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:15:23):
So on Facebook it's just Ryan H which is a
I T H. On X It's Ryan Underscore H thirteen
And that's where I'm pushing a lot of my stuff
now because I was a TikTok of done me over
so and it's it's not really a main page. It's

(01:15:44):
just me gathering, trying to gather people together, bringing awareness.
And I've also kind of set back in neighborhood watch
WhatsApp group form my area as well, which locals are
invited to come in. We'll do a little tex and
that make sure they're not the wrong guns. But that's

(01:16:04):
just basically a community WhatsApp group. But like I said,
I've asked people within my area, like parents, to come together.
I've got a few meetings with a few parents over
the next few weeks. Because the schools are old at
the moment. So now it's just about getting the right
battle plan. Go to a few council meetings, sit there,

(01:16:25):
put pressure on, and then we'll start going up. And
like I said, we want this changed. I'm not going
to stop until it is changed.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Good.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
And I know a lot of people have said to
me it's a big it's a big task. I was like, well,
we're the only generation left to sort this out, exactly,
we are the only generation left.

Speaker 3 (01:16:51):
You're right, this is probably last chance of Loon at
this stage.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
That's so the question is then, you know, if you're
out there and you're watching this and you're listening our
and you can hear what Ryan's saying, you know, and
you feel in the same plight parents were on the
back foot of the minute. Things are changing, the shift
in the tide always coming. But this can only happen
if everybody organizes, If we're all singing off the same

(01:17:14):
song sheet, you know, the right information has been passed
around and we're basing it on the right values and
the right actions. Yeah, so if you like what Ryan
said today and what his plan is, you know, get
together as a group of parents, concerned parents, get behind
one cause. Do it the right way, start the grassroots

(01:17:36):
and move upwards from there and basically just keep kicking
it higher and keep doing something about it. And you're
going to be providing the presence as well correct for
people who need it, if they need an escort home
or et cetera. ISA that the kind of thing you're
looking to do, just as a group community.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
There's see there's a.

Speaker 5 (01:17:56):
About all the checks and all the rest of it,
and lestand that after speaking with certain folk, it's a
lot harder than first thought.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
So it's because we don't want to play one in danger.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
That's true. Let me ask you this.

Speaker 5 (01:18:14):
I'll give you a counter comment to that specific line.
People don't want to be in danger right now. I listen,
if I'm in a WhatsApp group, for instance, organized by
an individual who's gathered a group of people together who've
all singing off the same song sheet, they all protect
you know, they're saying the right things.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
I'd rather now this is just me, I'd rather roll
my dice.

Speaker 5 (01:18:36):
On somebody that's in within that community than potentially walk
home on my own or do an alternative plan, because
I argue that it's a lot more dangerous out there
with the unknowns that are roaming around now, as opposed
to potentially somebody you've I suppose loosely vetted or has
become a part of a community, like for instance, I
don't know everybody personally on my football team, but i'd

(01:18:58):
walk home with them from the pub.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
You know, I wouldn't think, are they're going to jump me?

Speaker 5 (01:19:01):
That's the kind of community I'm talking about, the kind
of common sense.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Yeah, it doesn't always have.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
To be based upon certificates and qualifications. Over there is
an hard fellaw and he's a bit of a tasty lad.
I walk on with Big John, do you know what
I mean. I don't need to worry.

Speaker 3 (01:19:17):
That's the kind of common sense that I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Yeah, so you're right in that sense. But then the
gray area that you've got with something like, for example,
like the shield, right, And that's what I'm trying to
not go down the route of is let's say a
young woman is like ah, and your escorting home. It's

(01:19:41):
who then goes Because we're living in a world at
the moment where there's a lot of allegations and a
lot of wrong people. Is it's so hard. So the
point of my WhatsApp group at the moment is more information,
if you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:19:56):
So like, oh, just you know, there's a lot ways
you can mitigate that risk.

Speaker 5 (01:20:01):
And again maybe this is something in the shield can
look at putting body cams on the people who do
in the escort and make shureing that footage is d
you know, put in the database, the basics, the things
like that, just to mitigate the risk. I don't think
there needs to be much more of a conversation than that,
How can you mitigate the risk body cameras are fair
enough women involved?

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
It's it's basically, it's literally just that, like my WhatsApp group, right,
is just people around my community who they enough know
each other. And now no, I mean, it's just to
keep everyone updated and to be like, right, listen, I'm
on the park for my kids, and there's a couple
of you know, people who shouldn't be here. They've got
no kids. Is any other parents who can maybe bring

(01:20:45):
their kids and you know, we can have a bit
of a presence here.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Maybe an Apple handy.

Speaker 6 (01:20:51):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:51):
It's sort of almost like a neighborhood watch type thing,
a membership almost. So if you take your kids apart.
You could load up an app and maybe it'll show
you whereabouts in the vicinity that somebody is who's also
a member of the neighborhood watched type alliance group, do
you know what? Yeah, so you can always feel reassured
before you pull up on an area there's seven or

(01:21:11):
eight people in the vicinity that are part of that group.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
I mean that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
But there's there's a hell of a lot of work
that goes into that. And to be honest, that's at
this moment in time, that's not something.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
I'd be prepared to a long way away.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
Yeah, Like, my my main battle now is the school,
the crickle like all that get that whilst still building
an old school community of oh are you right, John?
Are you getting on? Like, because we've as a society,
we've fallen into the trap of just like a lot
of people now heads down, don't want to talk, just

(01:21:47):
mind their own business. Like back in the day when
I was going up, your door was unlocked, you'd walk in,
you know what I mean? Oh, you're right, you were
in the street.

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
Yeah, you're such a kids, you're such a larger Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:59):
Yeah, now it's not that community. Feel so I'm trying
to bring that back, that community network. But what you
said is valid points. I think that's what the Shield
are trying to do with an app. I think they've
they're sort of an app out of something, which I
hope it does work out.

Speaker 5 (01:22:18):
Yeah, again, that's a mile away, mile away, and it's
probably it's irrelevant at this point. You know, you're right,
very much in the embryo stages of this whole thing.
We're still getting people to try and listen at the minute,
you know what I mean, that's exactly where the world is.
We're still trying to get people to listen and do
something about it. But like we said earlier, the tide
is changing, and you know, the more people out there
like yourself, you know, actually doing the stuff and rallying

(01:22:41):
the people, and the people like me and Andy and
other podcasters out there are actually just you know, telling
the truth, you know, telling people's stories and just saying
what people are thinking. Basically, this is you know, between
us all working together. I think I think we can
we can turn the ship around.

Speaker 4 (01:22:57):
I do ye I hope we do, Yeather, We'll all
get bigger and bigger, and then we'll all start merging
together and that's what you have to do, and that's
what they try and stop. As you get bigger and bigger,
they don't want you meeting that group is in the
next town, no longer in the same thing. So they
knocked it down. Like it's what they've done with you.
You've started doing something and they've attacked you straight away

(01:23:17):
to try and keep.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Oh yeah, it's unbelievable and it's I know there's more
to come, there's more to come, but it's after that decision.
It is what it is, you know what I mean.
And like I said, I'm not doing it to say
look at me, I'm a hero. I'd rather be in
the shadows and you know, not lose out of money.

(01:23:40):
But it's everyone needs to have some bollocks about themselves.
Now stand up, be counted and let's make some change
for the next generation, because we are the last generation
who can sort the shit out.

Speaker 5 (01:23:55):
Yeah that's a great final message, Ryan, I think that's
as good a place as any to finish. Thanks a
lot for coming on today, mate, it's been brilliant.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Let's do this again as well on more more rabbit
hole stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:24:07):
I imagine things will progress quite nicely as the as
the weeks and months go on. So yeah, absolutely, we'll
get you back on and we'll do an update and
see how things are moving in the next couple of months.
All right mate, that's great, Thanks very much, Thank you
for watching everybody this has been across the Pond.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
I'll see you on the next episode.

Speaker 6 (01:25:00):
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