March 6, 2024 • 34 mins
In the debut episode of the "AI for Interior Designers" podcast, Jenna Gaidusek takes us on a candid journey through her career and the evolution of her engagement with AI in the world of interior design. Initially not drawn to podcasting, Jenna's venture into this medium stems from a growing curiosity and a desire to dive deep into AI's role and its burgeoning applications in interior design. Her personal narrative, from her education in New York and early career pivots to the eventual embrace of virtual design and founding of the E-Design Tribe, underscores a journey of growth, adaptation, and community building.
Jenna's transition to focusing on AI reflects a blend of necessity and innovation, propelled by the pandemic's push towards virtual design. She shares insights into her daily use of AI tools like ChatGPT and Dall-E, emphasizing their transformative impact on design conceptualization, client presentations, and even mundane tasks like social media management. Her exploration of AI's capabilities extends to creating educational content and tools designed to empower interior designers at various career stages.
Central to Jenna's message is the ethical use of AI in design. She champions transparency and integrity, advocating for responsible AI usage that respects copyright laws and industry standards. The episode promises future discussions on AI ethics, interviews with industry peers and software innovators, and a commitment to uncovering and sharing the latest AI tools and techniques.
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Welcome to the AI for Interior Designers podcast, where creativity meets cutting edge technology.
In each episode, we dive deep into the world of artificial intelligence and
explore how it's revolutionizing the interior design industry.
From AI powered design tools to the latest trends and innovations, we've got you covered.
So plunge in, relax, and let's embark on this exciting journey together.
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Welcome to AI for Interior Designers podcast.
P.S. This intro was written by and voiced by AI to sound like your host, Jenna Gudusek.
This is the AI for Interior Designers podcast, and I'm Jenna Gudusek. I'm your host for this.
So I never wanted to start a podcast. This was never a goal of mine,
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but I feel like it's the, not only is it like what the cool kids are doing right
now, but I've been asked so many times, you know, like, do you have one?
Like, are you just sharing this stuff on Instagram, like on on YouTube.
So I figured I'd just get it all together, put it all in a podcast,
split it up, use it out to other places like we are all doing with our social media.
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But let's just start a podcast. Let's just talk about AI.
Let's just talk about all of the advancements that are constantly rolling out.
Talk to some designers, see how everybody else is using it and some technology,
like some apps, some new programs that are popping up.
That's my goal for this, right? Like I talk about this, I use it every day.
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I have AI for interior designers.com.
Let's just talk about it in a podcast where you can listen to this on the go,
wherever you are. All right.
So I wanted to jump in and give you a backstory about who I am,
where I come from, how we even got here today.
And maybe it'll, you know, give me a little information about like what I do
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and why you're even listening to this podcast.
Quick side note, I've already recorded this entire podcast, but it didn't record any audio.
So I'm doing this by myself. Eventually, I'll probably hire somebody to help.
But you know, the best way to learn is just by screwing it all up, right?
So I've learned everything that I know today is I'd,
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I don't know if it's supposed to be clean or explicit, so I'm just going to say I screwed it off.
And that's how you learn. So here we go. Take two.
It looks like my audio is on and I'm going to get started. All right. So a little backstory.
I have a degree. I have an associate's technically and a bachelor's in interior
design. I went to school in New York.
And after I graduated college in 2010, I decided there was actually not a lot
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of jobs available that I was interested in or entry level at the time.
So I decided to get my real estate license and I did that for a little bit.
This was 2010. So I was also very young and I was doing more staging than anything
and just not really into it as I should be at the time.
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So from there, my boyfriend, now husband, and I decided we need a change.
We need to get out of New York. We need a fresh start. So we both took took
career opportunities in Louisville, Kentucky.
And I started working for a high-end furniture company and started as a salesperson.
From there, I quickly grew up to... Grew up. Well, I did grow up.
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But I grew to manage multi-million dollar locations by the time I was about
23 for this furniture store.
And it took me in a lot of places. I got to climb my way up the corporate ladder.
I got to work in Louisville. I got to work in Indianapolis.
I got to work in in Denver, Connecticut, and in Manhattan.
So it took us all around and we got to explore a ton of different cultures and
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cities and people. And I just love that.
Now I am inherently a introvert, though being a Leo, I am also an extrovert
when you get to know me, but I don't, I'm typically very shy.
I don't like go out of my way to meet people in person.
And so that's why online design and online just communication has always been
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like my thing. That's where I thrive.
But if you ever meet me in person and I'm a little shy, then it's just what you get.
So it's not you, it's definitely me.
But I decided that when we were in Manhattan and I was doing this crazy commute into meatpacking that.
I just didn't want to do this whole furniture industry sales meeting goals thing
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anymore and managing these stores and trade program at the time.
So I was no longer designing.
I was managing adults and they were acting like children.
And that was not my thing.
So I decided to start pursuing these online virtual design companies that were
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popping up and starting in the city.
And so I was winning enough of these projects back then that I was able to actually
leave my job with the support of my husband and pursue this entirely online.
So I left that corporate job, never looked back, but learned a lot while I was there.
And I was able to start working and earning virtually.
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So something that I was never able to do as I was managing and doing of that
was design, you know, renders. And I learned SketchUp back in school and that
was like, I loved it, right?
Like, and it really just kind of came out and it was one of my favorite things
to do, to visually communicate, but I no longer could do that.
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So I dusted off my Photoshop skills and I started to create these 2D concept
boards and use those for my clients.
They took hours hours and hours to create.
Now I can whip them up in about 20 minutes or less. And they had skewed perspectives
and, you know, like they're a mess, like they're a mess, but you have to start somewhere.
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Right. And I had to relearn again, after being out of the game for about five
or six years, how to do this.
So we ended up basically like I started doing this.
I started building my my own business simultaneously while taking on these jobs.
I had, you know, jennigadozicdesigns.com, started with Squarespace,
started with a blog, not even knowing what a blog was at the time or how to
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use affiliates or anything like that.
I think even in my first blog post, I was like, I'm just going to do this.
I'm going to talk about some fun stuff that I like and, you know,
no affiliates in here at all.
And that's what I did. Just built, you know, this online company and started
getting my own clients and it just took off.
And I was doing it really successfully successfully in a way that I was able
to lead these other companies that I was working for at the time and focus on my own business.
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So because of that, on social media, designers were reaching out to me saying,
hey, how are you doing these design boards?
Because it started with Photoshop, I ended up actually getting a free version
of 2020 or ICOVIA or something and built the rooms, built the floor plans,
took that rendered image and then put it in Photoshop and then placed the the
images of the products inside and kind of manipulated them that way.
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So at the time, it was really advanced for what I was doing because it wasn't
spending hours in SketchUp.
I wasn't doing any of that, but it was like a 2D plus concept work.
So these designers were reaching out to me and I was like, all right,
I'm pretty lonely here in the city.
We had our daughter, my husband was working in Manhattan and I was alone a lot,
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especially being an introvert. Like I wasn't going out and making friends.
I was focusing on building a business, taking care of our, you know,
that zero to one year old at the time.
And it was, it was lonely. So I started a Facebook group called eDesign Tribe
in 2018 and just looking for community and to share my knowledge with people.
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From there, a class about eDesign and how to create a successful business was formed.
And from there, eDesign U, which was a whole suite of classes and content and
learning for wherever stage you are, whatever you're trying to learn in your
design business, eDesign U had something that would help you. deal.
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These classes droned on. They were super long.
There was no editing back then. It was just a lot of content that you had to
kind of sit through. So I don't do it like that.
But you got to start somewhere. So I had probably close to a thousand designers
that I had just word them out, never ran ads or anything to this group that I'd taken my classes.
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And the Facebook group just continued to grow and grow and grow.
And I ended up creating this program that would also like,
basically take all your affiliates from all of your affiliate networks,
and you could compile a embeddable list into your website, the clickable list
that would have every affiliate lifestyle, all the products you could do like this product feed.
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And, you know, with a render or a concept board or something like that,
and you can share it with anybody. So with your clients or anybody else.
So I created that program. And then from there came this rendering integration,
where I started with one company, it just, that was better up there.
So I went with something else and launched that right before COVID hit.
And when COVID hit, everybody was starting to jump in on the virtual design wagon.
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Wagon so people that were like oh he designed socks you
know for forever we're now like oh i need
to learn this because i don't know how to collaborate with a
corny if i can't go to their house so that's where
everything changed and it just took off
and i loved every minute of it like i love teaching i love seeing what everybody's
creating just the community atmosphere was amazing and that's when i decided
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that when i was approached by my doma studio to see if i would be interested
in merging with them. I was like, yes, yes.
They are great people. They have a great reputation, a great program.
And what they didn't have, I had and vice versa.
So we decided to join our communities, join our programs, 2021, 2022-ish.
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And from there, I just have been able to teach and continue to design myself.
I got more time back to actually take on clients, which I kind of had to put
on pause for a little bit as I was building building the eDesign platform and
eDesign U classes in the community, you know, because who's that time to do all of those things?
It was pretty much maxed out on all the while, you know, having our second child
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and going through all that.
So it was just the right time and with the right people. If you're not familiar
with my Doma Studio, highly recommend.
Like it's just the best people, the best support, the best program for your,
you know, project management, for your rendering now and just everything else in between.
It's a really great program designed by designers and they listen.
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So they're not sponsoring any of this. I'm just saying that because I genuinely
love their program and the people that are included.
So anyway, I've been able to
now recenter myself in doing what I love and that's technology and design.
And so when AI I started to make its way onto the scene, it took me a few months
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to really start digging into chat GPT, which was, you know, like the first one to really release.
And when I did every single day, like I, I do this for a living and I feel like
I am scratching the surface for what's out there.
So that's why I'm excited for
this podcast and for all of the things that are going to come out of it.
And I hope you guys learn something every single week.
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So let it, you went short, or don't want to rattle on forever,
but I hope to see you for episode two and for all of the other future AI for
interior designers episodes here on this podcast. All right,
we'll see you guys next week.
Over a year ago now, I never look back. It changed the way that I do everything in my design business.
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I ask it for everything. I ask, can this sound better? What ideas should I write about for blogging?
All of these things that are not just the pretty pictures that you see,
there's so much more to it.
And that's where I started with that because back then it was like Like mid-journey,
you didn't have DALI, which is now the text, generative text portion of ChatGPT.
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It was mid-journey, and it was ChatGPT. So I started with ChatGPT to start idea generation.
And back then, it was not, I say back then, like it's forever ago.
It was literally like a year ago.
But it did not have access to the internet at the time.
So it was like preloaded through, don't quote me on this, but I want to say
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September 2021. 2021, but it was not all full up-to-date information,
but it was cool, right? So like it got you the answers that you needed.
So it started to do updates. You get access to ChatGPT Plus,
which is connected to the internet real time.
And that also, and that also include Dolly.
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Dolly is part of Tatooine BT+. And she's,
The parent company for ChatGPT Plus and Dolly and soon Sora,
which is a video generative platform.
All of this is under the OpenAI umbrella.
So OpenAI is basically like you can integrate.
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And if you've got a software or program, they left it open so that a lot of
people can adapt the AI into their existing programs.
So that is, you know, and then they have their own, which is ChaiShakeBT and
then Dolly, which is the Image and then soon Sora, which is text to video.
So that's where I started was with ChaiShakeBT.
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And then I started to introduce MidJourney, which is also generative text,
you know, to image. inch.
The mid journey program is technically through discord.
So it's on this and if you're not familiar with discord, it's I wasn't either.
But to figure all this stuff out, but discord is basically like the new Facebook
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groups. So it's very tailored to communities.
It's kind of it kind of looks like slack if you're familiar with slack,
where it's like, no frills.
It's just like like a chat thread type thing, you can create your own servers,
you can integrate it with other programs and, you know, kind of do feeds that way.
So mid journey, when you use it now, and soon it'll be changing a little bit
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more because you can use it on mid journey.com soon.
But right now what you do is basically create a discord account,
sign up for the mid journey program, and then you you can start using prompts
through the Discord server to create images.
It creates four images per prompt.
And you can do, you know, technically up to 10 different prompts at a time.
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And that's it. You know, you get your images, you can enlarge them,
you can make minor changes, you can zoom out, you can have it redo all four
images using the same prompt.
It's always random, right? You never really get the same image ever.
So it creates incredibly photorealistic images.
I also use it to create seamless textures, patterns that I then put into Photoshop and manipulate.
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But it is probably at this point in time, the most photorealistic program out
there for interior designers to use for generative imagery.
With that being said, I also use Dolly, which is part of ChatGPT bus.
So what Dolly does is something different. Like they both produce things that
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are images, right? But they both do it in a different way.
So Dolly is like having a chat with somebody.
So if you were to use ChatGPT, you basically prompt it. You ask the question,
like you're talking to a robot.
You can even do through the app, you can do voice. so like
you ask the question with your voice the the robot ai
through touch chat tpt will reply to
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you with their voice too but also type it all out so you have a chat conversation
like you're talking to your robot friend and it's one feed it's one you know
chat thread you can start a new one if you want to but it's just back and forth
like hey let's do this okay now let's do this okay let's revise that.
Okay. Can you tell me a little bit more about option number four that you just gave me?
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The same thing applies to the way that you can do generative images through ChatGPT and Dolly.
So you can basically say, here's my flat profile.
Here's some information that I'm looking to get. I'd like to get a flat lay
using these colors in this description.
Let's do a conceptual flat lay board. Okay. Now let's turn that flat lay board into a bender.
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Okay. Now I see the artwork that you have on the back wall. Let's separate that
artwork and just put it by itself so that I can use it in a room.
You know, like, yes, there's more to it than that, but you can basically work
through the development phase of a whole project with a conversation in Dolly.
Different than mid-journey. Mid-journey is prompted and you're done.
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So if you were to ask right now,
what is the best program for interior designers to get started with AI?
I would say sign up for ChatGPT if you want to just explore the free version you can.
But when you're ready, do that $20 upgrade to plus, because then you get the
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full extent of like the live connected to the internet, And I'll chat to you if you teach.
You also get Dolly, so you can start creating those images. But Dolly also can
create the prompts for you for what it used to create the image.
So I steal those prompts and I put them in Mid-Journey. So I actually am using
all of these programs on a daily basis.
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But if you're just looking to start out and get your feet wet with one.
ChatGPT Plus is probably the one that I would recommend to you.
So let's get into what ChatGPT is is and the benefits for interior designers.
And I'm sure that there's going to be a lot more on this later,
but, and I do have a full course about like getting started with this and like
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visible trainings and we stay up to date quarterly with live sessions as well
on AI for interior designers.com.
But what chat GPT in its current status for the plus version can do is it can
create basically these little GPTs.
So they are pre-trained transformers and you can teach them and build them yourself
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to do specific tasks for you.
Okay. So you could just like start a conversation and open up the app and just start asking away.
That's not a problem, but I have five core bots as I call them,
or I really call them buddies, but I have five that I've already started developing,
they take a little bit of time to train. So I'm starting with, you know, just five.
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The first one being my design assistant, where basically I will take all of
my client onboarding information.
I will then, you know, I collect it through type form or via phone call.
I put it all into my design assistant all raw and it immediately knows because
I've traded it, that it needs to spit back a really cohesive profile.
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Now, if you're using Weedoma, And you could actually take that whole profile
that it gives you, pop that into Max, the AI assistance that they've built.
And instead of taking about 15 minutes to start a new project and lay everything
out with, you know, like the budget, the views, the files that you need,
it will take all of your information generated in seconds.
So I love, I love anything that'll save time, right?
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So, so I start with the profile. I build out the profile, make it look nice and pretty.
ChatGPT now has memory. So as I'm going through this, it's retaining that information
in this thread for that client information that I provided in the beginning.
And so I take that information, put it in Max, that's a separate project management tool.
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But then it knows, because I trained it, that the next thing after it gives
me the detailed profile summary is to start creating imagery that's conceptual.
So like a flat lay board, material boards, wood board selections,
reflections that embody the idea
of what I just told it for this client project, a starting point for us.
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So from there, I can take.
So from there, I can take this information, these client boards,
and I can continue the conversation and say, okay, great.
That's the color palette that I want to go with, you know, option A,
B, or C or whatever. You know, we just keep talking.
And then I say, okay, now let's create the rendering of this.
And let's see what this is going to look like in a kitchen, if we're designing
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the kitchen, you know, and then it'll create that.
I do have to refine it a little bit because once you go from mood board,
flat lay over to rendering, it's cluttered.
There's a lot of stuff going on in dolly um so i cleaned
it up a little bit meanwhile dolly's giving me the
prompt so it's saying okay here's what i used
to create that image i copy that i put
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it in mid journey and it creates a totally
different version of this so dolly's images come
out with like kind of this glow to it and they've
got this weird thing with lighting there's too
too much like all the time and then
there's just a lot of clutter you know like it does things really
well it makes art really well like
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if your promotion is on youtube i've got a art piece that i created in dolly
using the hex codes from my wallpaper so the same color palette but it doesn't
create photo realistic renderings the way that mid journey version 6 is currently
doing it So I take it, I put it in bold, I see which one's best,
but I do continue to talk to my GPT design assistant to work through that process.
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So, you know, it's generative. I'm like, okay, let's start here.
And then by the end of the chat thread, which is ongoing always,
I can work through the entire design phase. Okay. Okay.
So that's just one. Another one that I have trained is basically a hashtag guru is what I call it.
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But it's not just that it does other things for Instagram.
So every day I've been posting a AI interior info picture to my Instagram as
my goal for the year of 2024 is to post every day and creating hundreds of images for my clients for,
you know, just ideas for the classes that that into your AI frontier design.com.
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So I've got all these pretty pictures that I'm like, I have to tell people.
So I have to show people. So I have been posting one every day.
I need hashtags, right? And some people say you don't, but my analytics say
otherwise that they are driving traffic.
So I will continue to do them until they no longer are.
But I will take the photo that I want to share, put it into this.
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I upload it to the GPT-Lite trained. it knows
immediately that it needs to give me 30 hashtags that
are relevant to this image and to this topic and
then it will give me alt text i'll talk about
that in a second and a starting caption so
like i don't ever use them but if you ever need it one it's a good place to
start so all this is copy and paste i can put it right into my post i do it
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from my phone i can do it from my computer i can even have an assistant start
to put all this in later for me and then i could I could just kind of go back
and schedule all my stuff. So...
Alt text is basically describing the image with words.
So it started out as, you know, something for visual impaired,
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and it really is an SEO optimizer.
So search engine optimization.
That was not fun. So basically what it does is if you are searching on Google or now on ChatGVT,
Copilot, which is Microsoft's, Gemini, which is formerly BARD,
part of Google, all of these search engines in just regular Google too.
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It is pulling that alt text as keywords too.
Okay, so it's just helping with extra context that is searchable.
So every time you upload a picture to Instagram, to Pinterest,
to your website, include alt text because it's not Google searches and other
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searches aren't reading what's in an image.
They're reading the text behind the image when it pulls the search results.
So now it's pulling results from Instagram, Pinterest, and of course, the internet.
And now it's honestly never been a better time to blog, in my opinion,
because we just amplify the amount of search engines that exist in this world with AI.
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We got, like I said, Microsoft making their co-pilot.
You've got ChaiGPT, the sourcing in Crow, where it gets its results from.
You want to be showing up in those results when anybody starts searching these things.
So blogging and alt text is where it's at for that.
So if I'm going to be posting something, you better believe I'm using hashtags
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and you better believe that I'm using alt text because it's just helping to
find that post later if somebody searches those specific topics or keywords or something.
So that's why I built this bot so that I could have those things and I don't
have to think about it because alt text is like the bane of my existence as
a designer and it's not something I wanted to do.
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Do. Neither is like copywriting or finding the words for emails,
all these things I can put into ChatGPT after I give it my, you know,
outlandish, whatever grammar I need to do.
My sister is now a lawyer, but went to school for English.
And I've just been, you know, corrected my entire life on using that side of
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my brain and actually like writing things.
So that's why I always try and and do like videos so I could just kind of talk
through it because I write the way that I talk and stuff like that.
And the way that I spell misspell things.
Now I leave my misspellings in my emails and in my blogs, just to let people
know that like the whole thing wasn't created by AI.
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It might've been started by AI, but like I leave those little nuggets in there
for you so that you know, Jenna was here and she messed up on the spelling of
this. So it was written by a real person, right?
So anyway, if you're a designer, you don't love doing those backend things,
but you know that you need them, I highly recommend doing these GPTs.
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Now I will say I do teach you how to build these GPTs in my chat GPT class through
AI for Interior Designers, but soon I will also just be coming out with access
to them along with individual training. So they are private.
But I will have trainings on how to use them, how to communicate with them. I let them bake.
So they're not like programmed for my design business in any way,
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but they help with the same format for all designers.
So I've got the design assistant. I've got the hashtag guru.
I've got a blogging buddy.
I've got a interior designer lead magnet generator where you can basically brainstorm
and then write lead magnets.
I've got another one that is for budgets, which is basically programmed to have
every every single detail of every single room to consider for your budget.
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You tell it what your client's room is, what their budget is,
and then it will give you an itemized good, better, best option for every single item in that room.
And it also factors in overage and delivery and taxes and kind of leave some space for that too.
So I've been developing these things for a while and they are always under development.
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Every time I use them, I'm training them and revising them them and making them better.
So soon these will all be released. If you're not interested in building your
own or learning how to do this, I got you.
They're immediately ready to use and those will be releasing soon.
So if you're looking to get started with AI, there's ChatGPT that I highly recommend.
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You can start it for free, but then upgrade to the $20 plan.
You get the Dolly, you get the ChatGPT.
You also get access to the store, which is all of these programs have have basically
been integrating AI into their current software.
And so they, you know, like Canva's in there.
You can technically start a chat conversation in ChatGPT using the Canva GPT
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that's in there and say, here's the graphic that I want.
It creates that graphic and then it bumps you over to Canva so you can finish developing it.
There's quite a few like that. There's video editors. There's other things that also do that too.
But have integrated ChatGPT into their current existing program.
So, get started with ChachiPT if you're an interior designer.
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That is where it's at right now.
There are new programs popping up for AI, especially in the interior design space, right?
Every single day. I test them.
I nerd out about this stuff. I test it. I want to see how it works.
So every month we meet for the AI Innovators Club and we discuss things that
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we've seen. I try things that are free.
I try things that are paid, see what's worth it.
For me right now, I still use my brain entirely.
So the way that I use AI is a lot of SEO building, a lot of,
you know, just like stuff that that side of my brain doesn't do,
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and then conceptualizing for client projects.
But after I get the conceptual colors down, the images that I present to my
clients and say, hey, what do you think about a range hood that's like this?
Or the arrangement that looks like this and kind of like get ideas across to
my client and a presentation.
Then I go over to the MyGamma Visualizer and I render it.
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I render it to scale with the exact products because here's a key here for you
guys. Currently due to copyright.
You can't take a 2D concept board and put it into a 3D image.
There's copyright restrictions where Bali and Midjourney are just not going to do it.
They're going to do similar pieces, but in no way is this accurate.
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And that's here, March 2024.
That's where we currently sit.
I'm grateful for it because I know that I have so many concept boards out there
that I'm like, man, I know that people could just reverse image search on Google,
try and find the right products, you know, put it all together.
But like somebody were to take my work and create
a 3d image from it i wouldn't feel good about that it's
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also kind of an ethics thing for me too where
like i never take designers images and put them into my ai i build images using
my prompts and then use those images to convey what i'm looking for i just i
know it's trained on millions and millions of images and content and but it's
an algorithm that is always changing and you're never going to get the same
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images if i take a designer's
work verbatim and say, Hey, let's, let's redo this.
I don't personally feel good about that epically in the way that I would use
that for my design business.
I feel like it's kind of cheating and it's not something I want to ever be involved in.
So this is also what I teach other designers, like just have ethics and have boundaries.
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We are on the forefront on the frontier of this whole whole artificial intelligence thing.
And if we can set the standards from the get-go as an industry,
I think that's going to dictate future use cases for a lot of this.
We're always going to have people that are going to misuse it.
Hopefully not in our industry. There's a lot of people that are trying to slide
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in and do stuff and not disclose.
And you're going to get caught. We're going to call you out.
Just let me totally blot about it. I have no problem saying this is an AI image.
This is not your work. And this is very misleading. And I think a lot of designers
feel the same way. And they're also going to be calling people out.
If we see it too. I do play to do an ethics, just, you know,
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like what to do, what not to do type thing with a few of my friends here as
one of the episodes that'll be coming.
But for right now, there's just like a line of the sand that I have for myself
with the way that I use images and use content and always disclose those types of things.
So that'll be coming along with, you know, some interviews on other designers.
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Like, how are other designers using AI?
There's something new that I learn every single day.
There's new ways that designers are exploring AI and enhancing their current business right now.
And it's so interesting. And I can't wait to have these people on to interview them.
Also, AI companies, software companies, they show me what they're working on,
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you know, whether it's live or not.
That. I'm involved in a few beta programs too, but I also will be having a few
of these people on too so we can review what their program is,
what it does, and how maybe it's the best tool for you out there for your unique business model.
This podcast, the goal is to just bring awareness as to what is available on
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the market and the right app because it changes every single day.
I do this for a living and I feel like I am scratching the surface for what's out there.
So that's why I'm excited for
this podcast and for all of the things that are going to come out of it.
And I hope you guys learn something every single week. So I'm going to keep it short.
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Don't want to ride along forever, but I hope to see you for episode two and
for all of the other future AI for interior designers episodes here on this
podcast. All right. We'll see you guys next week.
Thanks for listening to today's episode of the AI for Interior Designers podcast.
Don't forget to subscribe to this channel and tune in next week for more AI
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tips for your design business. See you next time.
Music.
Welcome to the AI for Interior Designers podcast, where creativity meets cutting edge technology.
In each episode, we dive deep into the world of artificial intelligence and
explore how it's revolutionizing the interior design industry.
From AI powered design tools to the latest trends and innovations, we've got you covered.
So plunge in, relax, and let's embark on this exciting journey together.
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Welcome to AI for Interior Designers podcast.
P.S. This intro was written by and voiced by AI to sound like your host, Jenna Gudusek.
This is the AI for Interior Designers podcast, and I'm Jenna Gudusek. I'm your host for this.
So I never wanted to start a podcast. This was never a goal of mine,
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but I feel like it's the, not only is it like what the cool kids are doing right
now, but I've been asked so many times, you know, like, do you have one?
Like, are you just sharing this stuff on Instagram, like on on YouTube.
So I figured I'd just get it all together, put it all in a podcast,
split it up, use it out to other places like we are all doing with our social media.
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But let's just start a podcast. Let's just talk about AI.
Let's just talk about all of the advancements that are constantly rolling out.
Talk to some designers, see how everybody else is using it and some technology,
like some apps, some new programs that are popping up.
That's my goal for this, right? Like I talk about this, I use it every day.
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I have AI for interior designers.com.
Let's just talk about it in a podcast where you can listen to this on the go,
wherever you are. All right.
So I wanted to jump in and give you a backstory about who I am,
where I come from, how we even got here today.
And maybe it'll, you know, give me a little information about like what I do
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and why you're even listening to this podcast.
Quick side note, I've already recorded this entire podcast, but it didn't record any audio.
So I'm doing this by myself. Eventually, I'll probably hire somebody to help.
But you know, the best way to learn is just by screwing it all up, right?
So I've learned everything that I know today is I'd,
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I don't know if it's supposed to be clean or explicit, so I'm just going to say I screwed it off.
And that's how you learn. So here we go. Take two.
It looks like my audio is on and I'm going to get started. All right. So a little backstory.
I have a degree. I have an associate's technically and a bachelor's in interior
design. I went to school in New York.
And after I graduated college in 2010, I decided there was actually not a lot
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of jobs available that I was interested in or entry level at the time.
So I decided to get my real estate license and I did that for a little bit.
This was 2010. So I was also very young and I was doing more staging than anything
and just not really into it as I should be at the time.
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So from there, my boyfriend, now husband, and I decided we need a change.
We need to get out of New York. We need a fresh start. So we both took took
career opportunities in Louisville, Kentucky.
And I started working for a high-end furniture company and started as a salesperson.
From there, I quickly grew up to... Grew up. Well, I did grow up.
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But I grew to manage multi-million dollar locations by the time I was about
23 for this furniture store.
And it took me in a lot of places. I got to climb my way up the corporate ladder.
I got to work in Louisville. I got to work in Indianapolis.
I got to work in in Denver, Connecticut, and in Manhattan.
So it took us all around and we got to explore a ton of different cultures and
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cities and people. And I just love that.
Now I am inherently a introvert, though being a Leo, I am also an extrovert
when you get to know me, but I don't, I'm typically very shy.
I don't like go out of my way to meet people in person.
And so that's why online design and online just communication has always been
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like my thing. That's where I thrive.
But if you ever meet me in person and I'm a little shy, then it's just what you get.
So it's not you, it's definitely me.
But I decided that when we were in Manhattan and I was doing this crazy commute into meatpacking that.
I just didn't want to do this whole furniture industry sales meeting goals thing
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anymore and managing these stores and trade program at the time.
So I was no longer designing.
I was managing adults and they were acting like children.
And that was not my thing.
So I decided to start pursuing these online virtual design companies that were
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popping up and starting in the city.
And so I was winning enough of these projects back then that I was able to actually
leave my job with the support of my husband and pursue this entirely online.
So I left that corporate job, never looked back, but learned a lot while I was there.
And I was able to start working and earning virtually.
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So something that I was never able to do as I was managing and doing of that
was design, you know, renders. And I learned SketchUp back in school and that
was like, I loved it, right?
Like, and it really just kind of came out and it was one of my favorite things
to do, to visually communicate, but I no longer could do that.
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So I dusted off my Photoshop skills and I started to create these 2D concept
boards and use those for my clients.
They took hours hours and hours to create.
Now I can whip them up in about 20 minutes or less. And they had skewed perspectives
and, you know, like they're a mess, like they're a mess, but you have to start somewhere.
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Right. And I had to relearn again, after being out of the game for about five
or six years, how to do this.
So we ended up basically like I started doing this.
I started building my my own business simultaneously while taking on these jobs.
I had, you know, jennigadozicdesigns.com, started with Squarespace,
started with a blog, not even knowing what a blog was at the time or how to
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use affiliates or anything like that.
I think even in my first blog post, I was like, I'm just going to do this.
I'm going to talk about some fun stuff that I like and, you know,
no affiliates in here at all.
And that's what I did. Just built, you know, this online company and started
getting my own clients and it just took off.
And I was doing it really successfully successfully in a way that I was able
to lead these other companies that I was working for at the time and focus on my own business.
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So because of that, on social media, designers were reaching out to me saying,
hey, how are you doing these design boards?
Because it started with Photoshop, I ended up actually getting a free version
of 2020 or ICOVIA or something and built the rooms, built the floor plans,
took that rendered image and then put it in Photoshop and then placed the the
images of the products inside and kind of manipulated them that way.
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So at the time, it was really advanced for what I was doing because it wasn't
spending hours in SketchUp.
I wasn't doing any of that, but it was like a 2D plus concept work.
So these designers were reaching out to me and I was like, all right,
I'm pretty lonely here in the city.
We had our daughter, my husband was working in Manhattan and I was alone a lot,
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especially being an introvert. Like I wasn't going out and making friends.
I was focusing on building a business, taking care of our, you know,
that zero to one year old at the time.
And it was, it was lonely. So I started a Facebook group called eDesign Tribe
in 2018 and just looking for community and to share my knowledge with people.
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From there, a class about eDesign and how to create a successful business was formed.
And from there, eDesign U, which was a whole suite of classes and content and
learning for wherever stage you are, whatever you're trying to learn in your
design business, eDesign U had something that would help you. deal.
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These classes droned on. They were super long.
There was no editing back then. It was just a lot of content that you had to
kind of sit through. So I don't do it like that.
But you got to start somewhere. So I had probably close to a thousand designers
that I had just word them out, never ran ads or anything to this group that I'd taken my classes.
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And the Facebook group just continued to grow and grow and grow.
And I ended up creating this program that would also like,
basically take all your affiliates from all of your affiliate networks,
and you could compile a embeddable list into your website, the clickable list
that would have every affiliate lifestyle, all the products you could do like this product feed.
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And, you know, with a render or a concept board or something like that,
and you can share it with anybody. So with your clients or anybody else.
So I created that program. And then from there came this rendering integration,
where I started with one company, it just, that was better up there.
So I went with something else and launched that right before COVID hit.
And when COVID hit, everybody was starting to jump in on the virtual design wagon.
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Wagon so people that were like oh he designed socks you
know for forever we're now like oh i need
to learn this because i don't know how to collaborate with a
corny if i can't go to their house so that's where
everything changed and it just took off
and i loved every minute of it like i love teaching i love seeing what everybody's
creating just the community atmosphere was amazing and that's when i decided
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that when i was approached by my doma studio to see if i would be interested
in merging with them. I was like, yes, yes.
They are great people. They have a great reputation, a great program.
And what they didn't have, I had and vice versa.
So we decided to join our communities, join our programs, 2021, 2022-ish.
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And from there, I just have been able to teach and continue to design myself.
I got more time back to actually take on clients, which I kind of had to put
on pause for a little bit as I was building building the eDesign platform and
eDesign U classes in the community, you know, because who's that time to do all of those things?
It was pretty much maxed out on all the while, you know, having our second child
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and going through all that.
So it was just the right time and with the right people. If you're not familiar
with my Doma Studio, highly recommend.
Like it's just the best people, the best support, the best program for your,
you know, project management, for your rendering now and just everything else in between.
It's a really great program designed by designers and they listen.
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So they're not sponsoring any of this. I'm just saying that because I genuinely
love their program and the people that are included.
So anyway, I've been able to
now recenter myself in doing what I love and that's technology and design.
And so when AI I started to make its way onto the scene, it took me a few months
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to really start digging into chat GPT, which was, you know, like the first one to really release.
And when I did every single day, like I, I do this for a living and I feel like
I am scratching the surface for what's out there.
So that's why I'm excited for
this podcast and for all of the things that are going to come out of it.
And I hope you guys learn something every single week.
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So let it, you went short, or don't want to rattle on forever,
but I hope to see you for episode two and for all of the other future AI for
interior designers episodes here on this podcast. All right,
we'll see you guys next week.
Over a year ago now, I never look back. It changed the way that I do everything in my design business.
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I ask it for everything. I ask, can this sound better? What ideas should I write about for blogging?
All of these things that are not just the pretty pictures that you see,
there's so much more to it.
And that's where I started with that because back then it was like Like mid-journey,
you didn't have DALI, which is now the text, generative text portion of ChatGPT.
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It was mid-journey, and it was ChatGPT. So I started with ChatGPT to start idea generation.
And back then, it was not, I say back then, like it's forever ago.
It was literally like a year ago.
But it did not have access to the internet at the time.
So it was like preloaded through, don't quote me on this, but I want to say
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September 2021. 2021, but it was not all full up-to-date information,
but it was cool, right? So like it got you the answers that you needed.
So it started to do updates. You get access to ChatGPT Plus,
which is connected to the internet real time.
And that also, and that also include Dolly.
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Dolly is part of Tatooine BT+. And she's,
The parent company for ChatGPT Plus and Dolly and soon Sora,
which is a video generative platform.
All of this is under the OpenAI umbrella.
So OpenAI is basically like you can integrate.
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And if you've got a software or program, they left it open so that a lot of
people can adapt the AI into their existing programs.
So that is, you know, and then they have their own, which is ChaiShakeBT and
then Dolly, which is the Image and then soon Sora, which is text to video.
So that's where I started was with ChaiShakeBT.
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And then I started to introduce MidJourney, which is also generative text,
you know, to image. inch.
The mid journey program is technically through discord.
So it's on this and if you're not familiar with discord, it's I wasn't either.
But to figure all this stuff out, but discord is basically like the new Facebook
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groups. So it's very tailored to communities.
It's kind of it kind of looks like slack if you're familiar with slack,
where it's like, no frills.
It's just like like a chat thread type thing, you can create your own servers,
you can integrate it with other programs and, you know, kind of do feeds that way.
So mid journey, when you use it now, and soon it'll be changing a little bit
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more because you can use it on mid journey.com soon.
But right now what you do is basically create a discord account,
sign up for the mid journey program, and then you you can start using prompts
through the Discord server to create images.
It creates four images per prompt.
And you can do, you know, technically up to 10 different prompts at a time.
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And that's it. You know, you get your images, you can enlarge them,
you can make minor changes, you can zoom out, you can have it redo all four
images using the same prompt.
It's always random, right? You never really get the same image ever.
So it creates incredibly photorealistic images.
I also use it to create seamless textures, patterns that I then put into Photoshop and manipulate.
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But it is probably at this point in time, the most photorealistic program out
there for interior designers to use for generative imagery.
With that being said, I also use Dolly, which is part of ChatGPT bus.
So what Dolly does is something different. Like they both produce things that
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are images, right? But they both do it in a different way.
So Dolly is like having a chat with somebody.
So if you were to use ChatGPT, you basically prompt it. You ask the question,
like you're talking to a robot.
You can even do through the app, you can do voice. so like
you ask the question with your voice the the robot ai
through touch chat tpt will reply to
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you with their voice too but also type it all out so you have a chat conversation
like you're talking to your robot friend and it's one feed it's one you know
chat thread you can start a new one if you want to but it's just back and forth
like hey let's do this okay now let's do this okay let's revise that.
Okay. Can you tell me a little bit more about option number four that you just gave me?
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The same thing applies to the way that you can do generative images through ChatGPT and Dolly.
So you can basically say, here's my flat profile.
Here's some information that I'm looking to get. I'd like to get a flat lay
using these colors in this description.
Let's do a conceptual flat lay board. Okay. Now let's turn that flat lay board into a bender.
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Okay. Now I see the artwork that you have on the back wall. Let's separate that
artwork and just put it by itself so that I can use it in a room.
You know, like, yes, there's more to it than that, but you can basically work
through the development phase of a whole project with a conversation in Dolly.
Different than mid-journey. Mid-journey is prompted and you're done.
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So if you were to ask right now,
what is the best program for interior designers to get started with AI?
I would say sign up for ChatGPT if you want to just explore the free version you can.
But when you're ready, do that $20 upgrade to plus, because then you get the
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full extent of like the live connected to the internet, And I'll chat to you if you teach.
You also get Dolly, so you can start creating those images. But Dolly also can
create the prompts for you for what it used to create the image.
So I steal those prompts and I put them in Mid-Journey. So I actually am using
all of these programs on a daily basis.
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But if you're just looking to start out and get your feet wet with one.
ChatGPT Plus is probably the one that I would recommend to you.
So let's get into what ChatGPT is is and the benefits for interior designers.
And I'm sure that there's going to be a lot more on this later,
but, and I do have a full course about like getting started with this and like
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visible trainings and we stay up to date quarterly with live sessions as well
on AI for interior designers.com.
But what chat GPT in its current status for the plus version can do is it can
create basically these little GPTs.
So they are pre-trained transformers and you can teach them and build them yourself
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to do specific tasks for you.
Okay. So you could just like start a conversation and open up the app and just start asking away.
That's not a problem, but I have five core bots as I call them,
or I really call them buddies, but I have five that I've already started developing,
they take a little bit of time to train. So I'm starting with, you know, just five.
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The first one being my design assistant, where basically I will take all of
my client onboarding information.
I will then, you know, I collect it through type form or via phone call.
I put it all into my design assistant all raw and it immediately knows because
I've traded it, that it needs to spit back a really cohesive profile.
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Now, if you're using Weedoma, And you could actually take that whole profile
that it gives you, pop that into Max, the AI assistance that they've built.
And instead of taking about 15 minutes to start a new project and lay everything
out with, you know, like the budget, the views, the files that you need,
it will take all of your information generated in seconds.
So I love, I love anything that'll save time, right?
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So, so I start with the profile. I build out the profile, make it look nice and pretty.
ChatGPT now has memory. So as I'm going through this, it's retaining that information
in this thread for that client information that I provided in the beginning.
And so I take that information, put it in Max, that's a separate project management tool.
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But then it knows, because I trained it, that the next thing after it gives
me the detailed profile summary is to start creating imagery that's conceptual.
So like a flat lay board, material boards, wood board selections,
reflections that embody the idea
of what I just told it for this client project, a starting point for us.
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So from there, I can take.
So from there, I can take this information, these client boards,
and I can continue the conversation and say, okay, great.
That's the color palette that I want to go with, you know, option A,
B, or C or whatever. You know, we just keep talking.
And then I say, okay, now let's create the rendering of this.
And let's see what this is going to look like in a kitchen, if we're designing
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the kitchen, you know, and then it'll create that.
I do have to refine it a little bit because once you go from mood board,
flat lay over to rendering, it's cluttered.
There's a lot of stuff going on in dolly um so i cleaned
it up a little bit meanwhile dolly's giving me the
prompt so it's saying okay here's what i used
to create that image i copy that i put
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it in mid journey and it creates a totally
different version of this so dolly's images come
out with like kind of this glow to it and they've
got this weird thing with lighting there's too
too much like all the time and then
there's just a lot of clutter you know like it does things really
well it makes art really well like
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if your promotion is on youtube i've got a art piece that i created in dolly
using the hex codes from my wallpaper so the same color palette but it doesn't
create photo realistic renderings the way that mid journey version 6 is currently
doing it So I take it, I put it in bold, I see which one's best,
but I do continue to talk to my GPT design assistant to work through that process.
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So, you know, it's generative. I'm like, okay, let's start here.
And then by the end of the chat thread, which is ongoing always,
I can work through the entire design phase. Okay. Okay.
So that's just one. Another one that I have trained is basically a hashtag guru is what I call it.
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But it's not just that it does other things for Instagram.
So every day I've been posting a AI interior info picture to my Instagram as
my goal for the year of 2024 is to post every day and creating hundreds of images for my clients for,
you know, just ideas for the classes that that into your AI frontier design.com.
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So I've got all these pretty pictures that I'm like, I have to tell people.
So I have to show people. So I have been posting one every day.
I need hashtags, right? And some people say you don't, but my analytics say
otherwise that they are driving traffic.
So I will continue to do them until they no longer are.
But I will take the photo that I want to share, put it into this.
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I upload it to the GPT-Lite trained. it knows
immediately that it needs to give me 30 hashtags that
are relevant to this image and to this topic and
then it will give me alt text i'll talk about
that in a second and a starting caption so
like i don't ever use them but if you ever need it one it's a good place to
start so all this is copy and paste i can put it right into my post i do it
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from my phone i can do it from my computer i can even have an assistant start
to put all this in later for me and then i could I could just kind of go back
and schedule all my stuff. So...
Alt text is basically describing the image with words.
So it started out as, you know, something for visual impaired,
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and it really is an SEO optimizer.
So search engine optimization.
That was not fun. So basically what it does is if you are searching on Google or now on ChatGVT,
Copilot, which is Microsoft's, Gemini, which is formerly BARD,
part of Google, all of these search engines in just regular Google too.
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It is pulling that alt text as keywords too.
Okay, so it's just helping with extra context that is searchable.
So every time you upload a picture to Instagram, to Pinterest,
to your website, include alt text because it's not Google searches and other
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searches aren't reading what's in an image.
They're reading the text behind the image when it pulls the search results.
So now it's pulling results from Instagram, Pinterest, and of course, the internet.
And now it's honestly never been a better time to blog, in my opinion,
because we just amplify the amount of search engines that exist in this world with AI.
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We got, like I said, Microsoft making their co-pilot.
You've got ChaiGPT, the sourcing in Crow, where it gets its results from.
You want to be showing up in those results when anybody starts searching these things.
So blogging and alt text is where it's at for that.
So if I'm going to be posting something, you better believe I'm using hashtags
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and you better believe that I'm using alt text because it's just helping to
find that post later if somebody searches those specific topics or keywords or something.
So that's why I built this bot so that I could have those things and I don't
have to think about it because alt text is like the bane of my existence as
a designer and it's not something I wanted to do.
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Do. Neither is like copywriting or finding the words for emails,
all these things I can put into ChatGPT after I give it my, you know,
outlandish, whatever grammar I need to do.
My sister is now a lawyer, but went to school for English.
And I've just been, you know, corrected my entire life on using that side of
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my brain and actually like writing things.
So that's why I always try and and do like videos so I could just kind of talk
through it because I write the way that I talk and stuff like that.
And the way that I spell misspell things.
Now I leave my misspellings in my emails and in my blogs, just to let people
know that like the whole thing wasn't created by AI.
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It might've been started by AI, but like I leave those little nuggets in there
for you so that you know, Jenna was here and she messed up on the spelling of
this. So it was written by a real person, right?
So anyway, if you're a designer, you don't love doing those backend things,
but you know that you need them, I highly recommend doing these GPTs.
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Now I will say I do teach you how to build these GPTs in my chat GPT class through
AI for Interior Designers, but soon I will also just be coming out with access
to them along with individual training. So they are private.
But I will have trainings on how to use them, how to communicate with them. I let them bake.
So they're not like programmed for my design business in any way,
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but they help with the same format for all designers.
So I've got the design assistant. I've got the hashtag guru.
I've got a blogging buddy.
I've got a interior designer lead magnet generator where you can basically brainstorm
and then write lead magnets.
I've got another one that is for budgets, which is basically programmed to have
every every single detail of every single room to consider for your budget.
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You tell it what your client's room is, what their budget is,
and then it will give you an itemized good, better, best option for every single item in that room.
And it also factors in overage and delivery and taxes and kind of leave some space for that too.
So I've been developing these things for a while and they are always under development.
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Every time I use them, I'm training them and revising them them and making them better.
So soon these will all be released. If you're not interested in building your
own or learning how to do this, I got you.
They're immediately ready to use and those will be releasing soon.
So if you're looking to get started with AI, there's ChatGPT that I highly recommend.
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You can start it for free, but then upgrade to the $20 plan.
You get the Dolly, you get the ChatGPT.
You also get access to the store, which is all of these programs have have basically
been integrating AI into their current software.
And so they, you know, like Canva's in there.
You can technically start a chat conversation in ChatGPT using the Canva GPT
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that's in there and say, here's the graphic that I want.
It creates that graphic and then it bumps you over to Canva so you can finish developing it.
There's quite a few like that. There's video editors. There's other things that also do that too.
But have integrated ChatGPT into their current existing program.
So, get started with ChachiPT if you're an interior designer.
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That is where it's at right now.
There are new programs popping up for AI, especially in the interior design space, right?
Every single day. I test them.
I nerd out about this stuff. I test it. I want to see how it works.
So every month we meet for the AI Innovators Club and we discuss things that
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we've seen. I try things that are free.
I try things that are paid, see what's worth it.
For me right now, I still use my brain entirely.
So the way that I use AI is a lot of SEO building, a lot of,
you know, just like stuff that that side of my brain doesn't do,
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and then conceptualizing for client projects.
But after I get the conceptual colors down, the images that I present to my
clients and say, hey, what do you think about a range hood that's like this?
Or the arrangement that looks like this and kind of like get ideas across to
my client and a presentation.
Then I go over to the MyGamma Visualizer and I render it.
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I render it to scale with the exact products because here's a key here for you
guys. Currently due to copyright.
You can't take a 2D concept board and put it into a 3D image.
There's copyright restrictions where Bali and Midjourney are just not going to do it.
They're going to do similar pieces, but in no way is this accurate.
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And that's here, March 2024.
That's where we currently sit.
I'm grateful for it because I know that I have so many concept boards out there
that I'm like, man, I know that people could just reverse image search on Google,
try and find the right products, you know, put it all together.
But like somebody were to take my work and create
a 3d image from it i wouldn't feel good about that it's
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also kind of an ethics thing for me too where
like i never take designers images and put them into my ai i build images using
my prompts and then use those images to convey what i'm looking for i just i
know it's trained on millions and millions of images and content and but it's
an algorithm that is always changing and you're never going to get the same
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images if i take a designer's
work verbatim and say, Hey, let's, let's redo this.
I don't personally feel good about that epically in the way that I would use
that for my design business.
I feel like it's kind of cheating and it's not something I want to ever be involved in.
So this is also what I teach other designers, like just have ethics and have boundaries.
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We are on the forefront on the frontier of this whole whole artificial intelligence thing.
And if we can set the standards from the get-go as an industry,
I think that's going to dictate future use cases for a lot of this.
We're always going to have people that are going to misuse it.
Hopefully not in our industry. There's a lot of people that are trying to slide
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in and do stuff and not disclose.
And you're going to get caught. We're going to call you out.
Just let me totally blot about it. I have no problem saying this is an AI image.
This is not your work. And this is very misleading. And I think a lot of designers
feel the same way. And they're also going to be calling people out.
If we see it too. I do play to do an ethics, just, you know,
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like what to do, what not to do type thing with a few of my friends here as
one of the episodes that'll be coming.
But for right now, there's just like a line of the sand that I have for myself
with the way that I use images and use content and always disclose those types of things.
So that'll be coming along with, you know, some interviews on other designers.
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Like, how are other designers using AI?
There's something new that I learn every single day.
There's new ways that designers are exploring AI and enhancing their current business right now.
And it's so interesting. And I can't wait to have these people on to interview them.
Also, AI companies, software companies, they show me what they're working on,
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you know, whether it's live or not.
That. I'm involved in a few beta programs too, but I also will be having a few
of these people on too so we can review what their program is,
what it does, and how maybe it's the best tool for you out there for your unique business model.
This podcast, the goal is to just bring awareness as to what is available on
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the market and the right app because it changes every single day.
I do this for a living and I feel like I am scratching the surface for what's out there.
So that's why I'm excited for
this podcast and for all of the things that are going to come out of it.
And I hope you guys learn something every single week. So I'm going to keep it short.
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Don't want to ride along forever, but I hope to see you for episode two and
for all of the other future AI for interior designers episodes here on this
podcast. All right. We'll see you guys next week.
Thanks for listening to today's episode of the AI for Interior Designers podcast.
Don't forget to subscribe to this channel and tune in next week for more AI
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tips for your design business. See you next time.
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