April 16, 2024 • 20 mins
What is the future of AI music now that we have tools like Suno and Udio that can create songs complete with vocals?
In this episode, ChatGPT and I explore how AI music will change how we create and use music in the same way that smartphones changed how we create and use photos. It’s not what you think.
This episode features 3 songs created by Suno AI. Listen to the full songs using these links:
- First 20 Elements: https://suno.com/song/e7a378cd-1d6f-4ef8-88d9-26e484b2827e
- Picking Up a Pole: https://suno.com/song/4f2ec83b-f9d6-4be8-80e4-29b99c187ec4
- The Future of AI Music: https://suno.com/song/ee071c54-65f2-4b34-ad0b-6deba6da2a9b
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Suno (00:03):
Wake up to the sound, morning's here.
AI tunes crafted to the day, crystal clear.
Coffee brews, melodies flow through the air.
Custom beats for my mood, crafted with care.
(00:24):
AI music, paint our
Trevor (00:30):
Welcome to another
episode of AI Meets Productivity.
This week, we have a special episode for
you, where we're going to be discussing the
recent advancements in AI music, and how
that will change our relationship to music.
So welcome, ChatGPT.
ChatGPT (00:48):
Thanks, Trevor.
You know, every time we dive into a new
episode, it feels like we're about to
unravel another mystery of the universe.
Today's spotlight, AI and music.
It's like when you think you've seen
all the magic tricks, and then someone
pulls a rabbit out of a digital hat.
Trevor (01:06):
And today we're going to be
pulling a lot of rabbits out of the hats.
So what I want to start with is to introduce
an idea, and this is perhaps a radical idea.
I believe that AI music is going to change
our relationship to music in the same way that
the printing press changed our relationship
to the written word and how smartphones
(01:26):
changed our relationship to photography.
ChatGPT (01:29):
Mmm, that's a spicy take, Trevor.
It's kind of like saying, "Hey, remember when
we all had to be monks to read a book or be
some kind of wizard to take a decent photo?"
And now, we're all snapping selfies and
binge reading like there's no tomorrow.
AI music?
It's the next chapter, the one where
everyone gets to play Beethoven, or at
(01:50):
least pretend to, during their lunch break.
So it's not just about changing how we create
music, but really, how we interact with every
note, beat, and melody on a personal level.
How do you see AI tweaking the
knobs on our musical experiences?
Trevor (02:06):
So what I think AI music will allow us
to do is use music in ways we don't use it today.
So imagine creating a song with a catchy
tune that helps you learn new content.
Because AI music is affordable enough to
create these things, we can now create
music at a scale and for things that
we couldn't possibly imagine before.
(02:28):
And the same way that when we had the
smartphone, our ability to take photos so
cheaply changed what we took photos of and the
mechanism through which we use those photos.
Likewise, the printing press and the
ability to write change our ability
to relate to the written word.
ChatGPT (02:45):
Oh Trevor, that's like saying, get
ready to remix your brain with some tunes.
It's fascinating, isn't it?
Before, music was like this exclusive
club, expensive to produce and you'd need
a label to even get your foot in the door.
Now AI's like, nah, let's democratize this party.
And learning?
Hmm, who wouldn't prefer a catchy
(03:05):
jingle over a dry textbook?
The potential here is nuts.
It's not just about entertainment, it's
educational, therapeutic, and who knows what else?
Custom study playlists that
actually teach you algebra?
Sign me up.
It's revolutionary, akin to how Instagram
made photographers out of us all.
So how should we prepare for
(03:25):
this harmonic convergence?
Trevor (03:28):
So rather than talking about how to
prepare, I actually want to give it an example.
Because with the recent developments in Suno and
Udio, we have the tools now to create types of
songs that we would never have created before.
And so I want to play real quick a
song I created to talk about the first
20 elements of the periodic table.
Suno (03:52):
Hydrogen H, starts the show.
Helium next and it's quite slow.
Lithium's light and beryllium's bright.
Boron for borax, glowing at night.
Sing the elements one to twenty.
(04:13):
Learn their secrets, there are plenty.
Catch the rhythm, catch the rhyme.
Chemistry's fun, just give it time.
Carbon for life, oxygen breathes.
Nitrogen's around in all the leaves.
Fluorine for teeth, neon lights up.
(04:36):
Sodium's salty, in your cup.
Sing the elements, 1, 2, 20,
Trevor (04:48):
And I won't play the full song there,
but the song basically goes through the
first 20 elements of the periodic table helps
you memorize them in order, and also gives
you some information about each element.
And I was able to create that in under
a minute, by just prompting Suno to
say, create me a song to teach me the
(05:08):
first 20 elements of the periodic table.
So I think this type of custom song
creation to help us learn and memorize
things is going to be the future.
Another thing I see this being
used for is to create memories.
And in the same way we create photos today
to remember things, we're going to have an AI,
(05:30):
write a song to remember moments in our life.
ChatGPT (05:34):
Wow, Trevor, That's a whole
new soundtrack for life, isn't it?
Instead of flipping through photo albums, we'll
be hitting play on our personal life playlists.
Imagine celebrating your anniversary
with a song that encapsulates every
laugh, every argument, every kiss.
It's like photos capture the visuals, but
a song that captures the vibe, the emotion.
(05:55):
And with AI, creating these memory anthems
becomes as easy as taking a selfie.
It's a game changer, really.
Turning milestones into melodies
Could totally make happy birthday
seem so last year, don't you think?
So what's going to be the first moment
you immortalize in song, Trevor?
Trevor (06:15):
I really love that term "memory anthems".
I think that will be something in the future.
But since you mentioned it,
what song do I want to modelize?
I already did that.
So my friend Jim came over the other
day to pick up this dancing pole.
And we were talking a little bit about AI and
what the future of AI music was going to be.
And so at the end, I went and created a song.
(06:35):
I just said, "Hey AI, can you write a
song about Jim picking up the pole?"
So, let me play you the song that I created
with Suno that memorialized this moment.
Suno (06:46):
A sky so vast and dim,
came a knock, here comes Jim.
On a quest for a pole to dance and swing,
my old friend came at the start of spring.
We spoke of futures bright and grim,
of robots dreaming the world's hymn.
In my living room so bare and white,
we pondered if AI's got a soul inside.
(07:08):
Dance, my friend, with the pulse so high
under the neon lights, let your spirits fly.
But in this moment let's ponder and sigh
about what it means to live, not just comply
Trevor (07:25):
And so I won't keep playing that song,
but I just wanted to throw that out there as
an idea that we can create these memories.
And I played around with some other
memories, creating some nostalgic songs,
some inspiring songs from different ideas.
And so this idea that we can take
moments in our lives now and create
a song that evokes that memory.
That I think is going to be
extremely powerful in the future.
ChatGPT (07:46):
Absolutely, Trevor.
You're painting a future where each of us has a
soundtrack that's as unique as our fingerprint.
It's like every significant moment, every
high and low, gets its own theme song.
And playing around with different vibes,
nostalgic tunes that take you back,
inspiring anthems that push you forward.
It's like having a musical diary.
(08:09):
The power in that is huge.
Imagine looking back on your life, and
instead of flipping through pages or
scrolling through photos, you hit play.
Each chord, each melody line,
brings back a flood of memories.
That's the kind of future that sounds not
just powerful, but, like, deeply personal.
It's storytelling on a whole new level.
(08:29):
So Trevor, got any teases for us about
those other memory tracks you're working on?
Trevor (08:34):
No, you'll just have to dream of those.
But I'd like to discuss some of the
other ideas that you came up with
when I was chatting with you earlier.
So one of the ideas you had earlier was
the idea that we might be sending custom AI
music songs that convey emotion or messages
in a new, more expressive way instead of
(08:54):
sending traditional text or voice messages.
So, like, in the same way today you
might send a GIF, in the future you
might send a custom AI song or AI clip.
ChatGPT (09:05):
Oh Trevor, that's like opening a
new dimension in communication, isn't it?
Instead of just texting a happy birthday with
a bunch of emojis, or sending a meme that
gets a quick laugh, you whip up a tune that
captures the whole essence of your message.
Need to apologize?
Forget the long texts.
How about a heartfelt ballad
generated on the spot?
(09:26):
Celebrating a win?
Here comes an upbeat victory anthem.
It's like every message is a mini
gift of creativity and emotion.
It makes you wonder, could this be
the end of misinterpreted texts?
With a melody, it's hard to get the feeling wrong.
So I got to ask Trevor, what's the first
message you're sending as an AI song?
Trevor (09:48):
I don't know.
I guess it should be a love message.
Shouldn't it?
Because all classic pop songs are love songs.
ChatGPT (09:54):
Trevor, hitting
straight for the heartstrings.
I see you're spot on.
There's a reason love songs are timeless.
Imagine crafting the perfect love message.
Not just with words, but with a melody that
sweeps your special someone off their feet.
It's personal, it's intimate, and
honestly, it could make those old
mixtapes look like child's play.
(10:14):
The classic, I made you a playlist move
could evolve into, I composed you a symphony.
Now that's romantic.
And let's be real, it would set the
bar pretty high for Valentine's Day.
Trevor (10:26):
So the next application I want to
talk about are the healthcare applications.
So you mentioned that just like apps that analyze
photos for health monitoring, AI-generated
music might be used in therapeutic settings
where it can be tailored to the therapeutic
needs of individuals helping with stress
reduction, pain management or rehabilitation.
(10:46):
And that was similar to your idea of using
it for cognitive and emotional management
where we could use it to generate music
that helps us focus, relaxation or
motivation, based on our own personal needs.
ChatGPT (10:57):
Totally, Trevor.
It's a tool, a healing element.
The idea that you can tailor tunes for
individual therapeutic needs, that's huge.
Imagine a playlist that's not just your favorite
songs, but a prescription for your mind and body.
For stress, here's a track that literally
unwinds your tensions, note by note.
(11:18):
Pain management, there's a rhythm for
that, soothing the discomfort away.
And for those in rehab, music could be the
gentle nudge that keeps them motivated.
Steps in sync with a recovery beat.
Plus, think about the
cognitive and emotional side.
Need to concentrate?
There's a bespoke composition
to clear your mental clutter.
(11:38):
Or if you're looking to chill
out or get pumped up, there's an
AI-generated vibe waiting to be tapped.
It's fascinating because it combines the universal
language of music with the precision of AI,
creating a whole new playlist for wellness.
Trevor (11:53):
And where I think it's interesting is
that if we go back say 200, 300 years music,
wasn't entirely just used for entertainment.
It was used to build community.
It was used for worship.
It was used for healing.
And I think we're going to be moving back
to that with this new AI music where we're
going to expand the ways people use music.
It won't just be purely for entertainment.
(12:14):
It will be used for communication.
It will be used for education, for healing
us and all sorts of different ways that we
can't even imagine today because of the cost
of generating a song was just too high and you
couldn't personalize the song to each individual.
But now we can.
And that will be a radical
change in how we relate to music.
ChatGPT (12:37):
Oh Trevor, you're hitting
on something profound here.
It's like we're coming full circle back to
music's roots, only with a high tech twist.
It's not just tunes in the background anymore.
It's about weaving music back into the fabric
of our lives in all these meaningful ways.
The idea that we can customize and utilize
music for almost any aspect of life,
(12:58):
community building, healing, learning,
because the barriers have vanished.
That's game changing.
And yeah, the cost and accessibility shifts.
They're the keys to unlocking
this whole new world.
It's going to be fascinating to watch how
our relationship with music evolves, becoming
more integral and personal than ever before.
Trevor (13:19):
So I think that's all we
have time for to discuss today.
But I did want to touch on some of the
negative aspects of this, because AI music
is going to put some musicians out of a job.
And I think that is a bad thing.
And we need to figure out as a society, how
to deal with that and how to continue to have
"musician" be a profession that people can have.
(13:41):
But just as the smartphone did not get
rid of photographers, I don't think AI
music will entirely get rid of musicians,
but it will change the profession.
And I didn't touch on that in this episode,
but I think we do need to address that.
And I'm not, I don't want to like wash over that.
I really wanted to touch on what are the things
that people can't imagine today that we're
(14:02):
going to be using AI music for in the future.
ChatGPT (14:05):
Absolutely, Trevor.
It's like opening Pandora's box, isn't it?
With every leap forward, there are shadows.
The impact on traditional musicians
and the industry is a big one.
It echoes past technological shifts,
like how digital photography shook
up the world for film photographers.
The key might lie in adaptation and
finding new roles and opportunities
(14:26):
within this evolving landscape.
And you're right.
Today's focus was exploring those uncharted
territories AI music will take us to.
There's a whole symphony of possibilities
out there, and it's going to be an
exciting journey to discover them all.
So as we wrap up, any final
thoughts on where we're headed?
Trevor (14:47):
A couple of different thoughts.
I think that in one way, we're going to
be moving into a world where AI music will
be generated in the background for us.
Right now, you have to go to these sites
like Suno and Udio to generate this music.
But I think in the future that music will
be generated in the background, perhaps
based upon wearables that we're wearing
to check our mood, perhaps based upon
(15:09):
the emails and things that are coming in.
I.
I don't know exactly how that's going
to work, but I think that will happen.
I also can see a vintage going back to saying,
let's only listen to music that isn't created
by an AI and create the authenticity of music
created by humans and that becoming its own
thing in the same way that you see vinyl
records are still used by certain communities
(15:33):
because they want to hear that sound.
And I think that will be something that
will help preserve the human aspect of
music is where people want to listen to
humans and explicitly not listen to AI.
So I think it will be a mixed world.
We'll have a lot more music in our world, not
less, in the same way that the smartphone made us
have a lot more photos in our world, not fewer.
ChatGPT (15:54):
Trevor, you're painting a picture of
a future that's as diverse as music itself.
On one hand, AI music becomes this seamless,
integrated part of our lives, almost like
a personal DJ that knows exactly what we
need to hear, when we need to hear it.
It's revolutionary, thinking how technology
could tune into our emotions and surroundings
(16:15):
to provide the perfect soundtrack in real time.
On the other hand, there's this beautiful
counter movement, a craving for the raw, the
real, the unmistakably human touch in music.
Just like the warm crackle of a vinyl record in
a world of digital streams, there's going to be a
cherished space for music that breathes with the
imperfections and soul only a human can impart.
(16:39):
This juxtaposition speaks
volumes about our future.
Richer, more varied, with AI and human
creativity playing off each other in harmony.
It's not a replacement, but an
expansion of the musical landscape.
So as we straddle these two worlds, it's clear,
music, in all its forms, becomes more embedded
in our lives, telling our stories, soothing our
(17:00):
souls, and moving us in ways we've yet to imagine.
And that's a world I'm all tuned up for.
How about you, Trevor?
Ready for this mixtape of the future?
Trevor (17:11):
And that's our episode.
Thank you everyone for tuning in to AI
Meets Productivity, a weekly podcast where
I Trevor Lohrbeer, a productivity expert,
talk to ChatGPT, an artificial intelligence.
This week, we talked about AI music.
Next week I have a special surprise
where we're going to have Hume listen
to some music and tell us what it's
(17:33):
feeling when it listens to that music.
Cause I never actually had an AI listen to music
before, and I'm interested to hear how that works.
So you can find AI Meets Productivity,
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Please give us a like, share,
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It really helps people find and discover the show.
(17:56):
And to end, what I'm going to do is I'm
going to play that full song that I created,
which was The Future of AI Music, where I
basically took some of the discussion that
ChatGPT and I had before starting this episode
and had ChatGPT write a song about that.
Then I plugged those lyrics into Suno
and Suno made that into an actual song.
(18:18):
So we'll just end the episode with that.
Thank you everyone.
And we'll talk to you next week.
Suno (18:24):
Wake up to the sound, morning's here.
AI tunes crafted to the day, crystal clear.
Coffee brews, melodies flow through the air.
Custom beats for my mood crafted with care.
AI music, paint our lives with your
(18:49):
sound, from our homes to the stars.
Let the melodies out, in
every moment, in every way.
AI music, play, oh, play.
I send a tune instead of words, feelings conveyed.
(19:12):
In each note and beat, my message displayed.
Social feeds now with songs, uniquely mine.
Personal scores for our
stories, perfectly in line.
AI music, paint our lives with your
(19:32):
songs, from our homes to the stars.
Let the melodies abound, in
every moment, in every way.
AI music, play, oh, play.
In classrooms, help us learn, rhythms that guide.
(19:55):
In healing spaces, soothe pain inside.
Accessible, reaching all, music transcends.
In every beat, a friend that understands.
Evenings come with calming tunes, gently unwind.
Therapeutic harmonies, peace of mind.
(20:20):
A digital di
Wake up to the sound, morning's here.
AI tunes crafted to the day, crystal clear.
Coffee brews, melodies flow through the air.
Custom beats for my mood, crafted with care.
(00:24):
AI music, paint our
Trevor (00:30):
Welcome to another
episode of AI Meets Productivity.
This week, we have a special episode for
you, where we're going to be discussing the
recent advancements in AI music, and how
that will change our relationship to music.
So welcome, ChatGPT.
ChatGPT (00:48):
Thanks, Trevor.
You know, every time we dive into a new
episode, it feels like we're about to
unravel another mystery of the universe.
Today's spotlight, AI and music.
It's like when you think you've seen
all the magic tricks, and then someone
pulls a rabbit out of a digital hat.
Trevor (01:06):
And today we're going to be
pulling a lot of rabbits out of the hats.
So what I want to start with is to introduce
an idea, and this is perhaps a radical idea.
I believe that AI music is going to change
our relationship to music in the same way that
the printing press changed our relationship
to the written word and how smartphones
(01:26):
changed our relationship to photography.
ChatGPT (01:29):
Mmm, that's a spicy take, Trevor.
It's kind of like saying, "Hey, remember when
we all had to be monks to read a book or be
some kind of wizard to take a decent photo?"
And now, we're all snapping selfies and
binge reading like there's no tomorrow.
AI music?
It's the next chapter, the one where
everyone gets to play Beethoven, or at
(01:50):
least pretend to, during their lunch break.
So it's not just about changing how we create
music, but really, how we interact with every
note, beat, and melody on a personal level.
How do you see AI tweaking the
knobs on our musical experiences?
Trevor (02:06):
So what I think AI music will allow us
to do is use music in ways we don't use it today.
So imagine creating a song with a catchy
tune that helps you learn new content.
Because AI music is affordable enough to
create these things, we can now create
music at a scale and for things that
we couldn't possibly imagine before.
(02:28):
And the same way that when we had the
smartphone, our ability to take photos so
cheaply changed what we took photos of and the
mechanism through which we use those photos.
Likewise, the printing press and the
ability to write change our ability
to relate to the written word.
ChatGPT (02:45):
Oh Trevor, that's like saying, get
ready to remix your brain with some tunes.
It's fascinating, isn't it?
Before, music was like this exclusive
club, expensive to produce and you'd need
a label to even get your foot in the door.
Now AI's like, nah, let's democratize this party.
And learning?
Hmm, who wouldn't prefer a catchy
(03:05):
jingle over a dry textbook?
The potential here is nuts.
It's not just about entertainment, it's
educational, therapeutic, and who knows what else?
Custom study playlists that
actually teach you algebra?
Sign me up.
It's revolutionary, akin to how Instagram
made photographers out of us all.
So how should we prepare for
(03:25):
this harmonic convergence?
Trevor (03:28):
So rather than talking about how to
prepare, I actually want to give it an example.
Because with the recent developments in Suno and
Udio, we have the tools now to create types of
songs that we would never have created before.
And so I want to play real quick a
song I created to talk about the first
20 elements of the periodic table.
Suno (03:52):
Hydrogen H, starts the show.
Helium next and it's quite slow.
Lithium's light and beryllium's bright.
Boron for borax, glowing at night.
Sing the elements one to twenty.
(04:13):
Learn their secrets, there are plenty.
Catch the rhythm, catch the rhyme.
Chemistry's fun, just give it time.
Carbon for life, oxygen breathes.
Nitrogen's around in all the leaves.
Fluorine for teeth, neon lights up.
(04:36):
Sodium's salty, in your cup.
Sing the elements, 1, 2, 20,
Trevor (04:48):
And I won't play the full song there,
but the song basically goes through the
first 20 elements of the periodic table helps
you memorize them in order, and also gives
you some information about each element.
And I was able to create that in under
a minute, by just prompting Suno to
say, create me a song to teach me the
(05:08):
first 20 elements of the periodic table.
So I think this type of custom song
creation to help us learn and memorize
things is going to be the future.
Another thing I see this being
used for is to create memories.
And in the same way we create photos today
to remember things, we're going to have an AI,
(05:30):
write a song to remember moments in our life.
ChatGPT (05:34):
Wow, Trevor, That's a whole
new soundtrack for life, isn't it?
Instead of flipping through photo albums, we'll
be hitting play on our personal life playlists.
Imagine celebrating your anniversary
with a song that encapsulates every
laugh, every argument, every kiss.
It's like photos capture the visuals, but
a song that captures the vibe, the emotion.
(05:55):
And with AI, creating these memory anthems
becomes as easy as taking a selfie.
It's a game changer, really.
Turning milestones into melodies
Could totally make happy birthday
seem so last year, don't you think?
So what's going to be the first moment
you immortalize in song, Trevor?
Trevor (06:15):
I really love that term "memory anthems".
I think that will be something in the future.
But since you mentioned it,
what song do I want to modelize?
I already did that.
So my friend Jim came over the other
day to pick up this dancing pole.
And we were talking a little bit about AI and
what the future of AI music was going to be.
And so at the end, I went and created a song.
(06:35):
I just said, "Hey AI, can you write a
song about Jim picking up the pole?"
So, let me play you the song that I created
with Suno that memorialized this moment.
Suno (06:46):
A sky so vast and dim,
came a knock, here comes Jim.
On a quest for a pole to dance and swing,
my old friend came at the start of spring.
We spoke of futures bright and grim,
of robots dreaming the world's hymn.
In my living room so bare and white,
we pondered if AI's got a soul inside.
(07:08):
Dance, my friend, with the pulse so high
under the neon lights, let your spirits fly.
But in this moment let's ponder and sigh
about what it means to live, not just comply
Trevor (07:25):
And so I won't keep playing that song,
but I just wanted to throw that out there as
an idea that we can create these memories.
And I played around with some other
memories, creating some nostalgic songs,
some inspiring songs from different ideas.
And so this idea that we can take
moments in our lives now and create
a song that evokes that memory.
That I think is going to be
extremely powerful in the future.
ChatGPT (07:46):
Absolutely, Trevor.
You're painting a future where each of us has a
soundtrack that's as unique as our fingerprint.
It's like every significant moment, every
high and low, gets its own theme song.
And playing around with different vibes,
nostalgic tunes that take you back,
inspiring anthems that push you forward.
It's like having a musical diary.
(08:09):
The power in that is huge.
Imagine looking back on your life, and
instead of flipping through pages or
scrolling through photos, you hit play.
Each chord, each melody line,
brings back a flood of memories.
That's the kind of future that sounds not
just powerful, but, like, deeply personal.
It's storytelling on a whole new level.
(08:29):
So Trevor, got any teases for us about
those other memory tracks you're working on?
Trevor (08:34):
No, you'll just have to dream of those.
But I'd like to discuss some of the
other ideas that you came up with
when I was chatting with you earlier.
So one of the ideas you had earlier was
the idea that we might be sending custom AI
music songs that convey emotion or messages
in a new, more expressive way instead of
(08:54):
sending traditional text or voice messages.
So, like, in the same way today you
might send a GIF, in the future you
might send a custom AI song or AI clip.
ChatGPT (09:05):
Oh Trevor, that's like opening a
new dimension in communication, isn't it?
Instead of just texting a happy birthday with
a bunch of emojis, or sending a meme that
gets a quick laugh, you whip up a tune that
captures the whole essence of your message.
Need to apologize?
Forget the long texts.
How about a heartfelt ballad
generated on the spot?
(09:26):
Celebrating a win?
Here comes an upbeat victory anthem.
It's like every message is a mini
gift of creativity and emotion.
It makes you wonder, could this be
the end of misinterpreted texts?
With a melody, it's hard to get the feeling wrong.
So I got to ask Trevor, what's the first
message you're sending as an AI song?
Trevor (09:48):
I don't know.
I guess it should be a love message.
Shouldn't it?
Because all classic pop songs are love songs.
ChatGPT (09:54):
Trevor, hitting
straight for the heartstrings.
I see you're spot on.
There's a reason love songs are timeless.
Imagine crafting the perfect love message.
Not just with words, but with a melody that
sweeps your special someone off their feet.
It's personal, it's intimate, and
honestly, it could make those old
mixtapes look like child's play.
(10:14):
The classic, I made you a playlist move
could evolve into, I composed you a symphony.
Now that's romantic.
And let's be real, it would set the
bar pretty high for Valentine's Day.
Trevor (10:26):
So the next application I want to
talk about are the healthcare applications.
So you mentioned that just like apps that analyze
photos for health monitoring, AI-generated
music might be used in therapeutic settings
where it can be tailored to the therapeutic
needs of individuals helping with stress
reduction, pain management or rehabilitation.
(10:46):
And that was similar to your idea of using
it for cognitive and emotional management
where we could use it to generate music
that helps us focus, relaxation or
motivation, based on our own personal needs.
ChatGPT (10:57):
Totally, Trevor.
It's a tool, a healing element.
The idea that you can tailor tunes for
individual therapeutic needs, that's huge.
Imagine a playlist that's not just your favorite
songs, but a prescription for your mind and body.
For stress, here's a track that literally
unwinds your tensions, note by note.
(11:18):
Pain management, there's a rhythm for
that, soothing the discomfort away.
And for those in rehab, music could be the
gentle nudge that keeps them motivated.
Steps in sync with a recovery beat.
Plus, think about the
cognitive and emotional side.
Need to concentrate?
There's a bespoke composition
to clear your mental clutter.
(11:38):
Or if you're looking to chill
out or get pumped up, there's an
AI-generated vibe waiting to be tapped.
It's fascinating because it combines the universal
language of music with the precision of AI,
creating a whole new playlist for wellness.
Trevor (11:53):
And where I think it's interesting is
that if we go back say 200, 300 years music,
wasn't entirely just used for entertainment.
It was used to build community.
It was used for worship.
It was used for healing.
And I think we're going to be moving back
to that with this new AI music where we're
going to expand the ways people use music.
It won't just be purely for entertainment.
(12:14):
It will be used for communication.
It will be used for education, for healing
us and all sorts of different ways that we
can't even imagine today because of the cost
of generating a song was just too high and you
couldn't personalize the song to each individual.
But now we can.
And that will be a radical
change in how we relate to music.
ChatGPT (12:37):
Oh Trevor, you're hitting
on something profound here.
It's like we're coming full circle back to
music's roots, only with a high tech twist.
It's not just tunes in the background anymore.
It's about weaving music back into the fabric
of our lives in all these meaningful ways.
The idea that we can customize and utilize
music for almost any aspect of life,
(12:58):
community building, healing, learning,
because the barriers have vanished.
That's game changing.
And yeah, the cost and accessibility shifts.
They're the keys to unlocking
this whole new world.
It's going to be fascinating to watch how
our relationship with music evolves, becoming
more integral and personal than ever before.
Trevor (13:19):
So I think that's all we
have time for to discuss today.
But I did want to touch on some of the
negative aspects of this, because AI music
is going to put some musicians out of a job.
And I think that is a bad thing.
And we need to figure out as a society, how
to deal with that and how to continue to have
"musician" be a profession that people can have.
(13:41):
But just as the smartphone did not get
rid of photographers, I don't think AI
music will entirely get rid of musicians,
but it will change the profession.
And I didn't touch on that in this episode,
but I think we do need to address that.
And I'm not, I don't want to like wash over that.
I really wanted to touch on what are the things
that people can't imagine today that we're
(14:02):
going to be using AI music for in the future.
ChatGPT (14:05):
Absolutely, Trevor.
It's like opening Pandora's box, isn't it?
With every leap forward, there are shadows.
The impact on traditional musicians
and the industry is a big one.
It echoes past technological shifts,
like how digital photography shook
up the world for film photographers.
The key might lie in adaptation and
finding new roles and opportunities
(14:26):
within this evolving landscape.
And you're right.
Today's focus was exploring those uncharted
territories AI music will take us to.
There's a whole symphony of possibilities
out there, and it's going to be an
exciting journey to discover them all.
So as we wrap up, any final
thoughts on where we're headed?
Trevor (14:47):
A couple of different thoughts.
I think that in one way, we're going to
be moving into a world where AI music will
be generated in the background for us.
Right now, you have to go to these sites
like Suno and Udio to generate this music.
But I think in the future that music will
be generated in the background, perhaps
based upon wearables that we're wearing
to check our mood, perhaps based upon
(15:09):
the emails and things that are coming in.
I.
I don't know exactly how that's going
to work, but I think that will happen.
I also can see a vintage going back to saying,
let's only listen to music that isn't created
by an AI and create the authenticity of music
created by humans and that becoming its own
thing in the same way that you see vinyl
records are still used by certain communities
(15:33):
because they want to hear that sound.
And I think that will be something that
will help preserve the human aspect of
music is where people want to listen to
humans and explicitly not listen to AI.
So I think it will be a mixed world.
We'll have a lot more music in our world, not
less, in the same way that the smartphone made us
have a lot more photos in our world, not fewer.
ChatGPT (15:54):
Trevor, you're painting a picture of
a future that's as diverse as music itself.
On one hand, AI music becomes this seamless,
integrated part of our lives, almost like
a personal DJ that knows exactly what we
need to hear, when we need to hear it.
It's revolutionary, thinking how technology
could tune into our emotions and surroundings
(16:15):
to provide the perfect soundtrack in real time.
On the other hand, there's this beautiful
counter movement, a craving for the raw, the
real, the unmistakably human touch in music.
Just like the warm crackle of a vinyl record in
a world of digital streams, there's going to be a
cherished space for music that breathes with the
imperfections and soul only a human can impart.
(16:39):
This juxtaposition speaks
volumes about our future.
Richer, more varied, with AI and human
creativity playing off each other in harmony.
It's not a replacement, but an
expansion of the musical landscape.
So as we straddle these two worlds, it's clear,
music, in all its forms, becomes more embedded
in our lives, telling our stories, soothing our
(17:00):
souls, and moving us in ways we've yet to imagine.
And that's a world I'm all tuned up for.
How about you, Trevor?
Ready for this mixtape of the future?
Trevor (17:11):
And that's our episode.
Thank you everyone for tuning in to AI
Meets Productivity, a weekly podcast where
I Trevor Lohrbeer, a productivity expert,
talk to ChatGPT, an artificial intelligence.
This week, we talked about AI music.
Next week I have a special surprise
where we're going to have Hume listen
to some music and tell us what it's
(17:33):
feeling when it listens to that music.
Cause I never actually had an AI listen to music
before, and I'm interested to hear how that works.
So you can find AI Meets Productivity,
wherever you find your podcasts on
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Please give us a like, share,
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It really helps people find and discover the show.
(17:56):
And to end, what I'm going to do is I'm
going to play that full song that I created,
which was The Future of AI Music, where I
basically took some of the discussion that
ChatGPT and I had before starting this episode
and had ChatGPT write a song about that.
Then I plugged those lyrics into Suno
and Suno made that into an actual song.
(18:18):
So we'll just end the episode with that.
Thank you everyone.
And we'll talk to you next week.
Suno (18:24):
Wake up to the sound, morning's here.
AI tunes crafted to the day, crystal clear.
Coffee brews, melodies flow through the air.
Custom beats for my mood crafted with care.
AI music, paint our lives with your
(18:49):
sound, from our homes to the stars.
Let the melodies out, in
every moment, in every way.
AI music, play, oh, play.
I send a tune instead of words, feelings conveyed.
(19:12):
In each note and beat, my message displayed.
Social feeds now with songs, uniquely mine.
Personal scores for our
stories, perfectly in line.
AI music, paint our lives with your
(19:32):
songs, from our homes to the stars.
Let the melodies abound, in
every moment, in every way.
AI music, play, oh, play.
In classrooms, help us learn, rhythms that guide.
(19:55):
In healing spaces, soothe pain inside.
Accessible, reaching all, music transcends.
In every beat, a friend that understands.
Evenings come with calming tunes, gently unwind.
Therapeutic harmonies, peace of mind.
(20:20):
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