Haftan, Evenn, Tip and SPUD are world-hopping, where they meet a certain mysterious woman and her baby, and find some answers they’d rather not have discovered. Debbie and Beks discuss deus ex machina, plotting vs pantsing, and co-authoring.
Note: you're not crazy; this is episode 13. Please understand that Debbie is a musician and therefore cannot count above 12.
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