March 6, 2025 • 66 mins
BeTempered hosts Dan Schmidt and Ben Spahr sit down with Bill Bowers, better known as @Bushel_Billy on Instagram, for an unfiltered conversation about grit, family, and refusing to make excuses.
Growing up on a western Ohio farm in the 1980s, Bill developed a relentless work ethic where tasks weren’t considered chores—they were simply "what the family did." His journey from an awkward kid who “couldn’t run” to a college football captain proves his core philosophy: success is about determination, not natural talent.
Bill’s career path is just as unconventional—he’s been a farm kid, MBA graduate (while working as a bouncer), international consultant, and agricultural specialist focused on the top 20% of customers driving 80% of business. His leadership lessons are equally compelling, especially the moment when he learned firsthand that barking orders isn’t leadership—it’s earned through action and respect.
Beyond business, Bill shares his philosophy on family leadership, describing his three-part role as “priest, prophet, and king” of his household. His parenting approach—giving his kids tasks with clear outcomes but no instructions—challenges modern micromanagement. And when discussing faith through adversity, his reminder that “the most common thing stolen is what could have been” is a powerful warning against letting fear hold us back.
Whether you’re in agriculture or just looking for a no-nonsense take on resilience and purpose, this conversation will challenge your excuses and inspire action. Follow Bill’s agricultural journey on Instagram: @Bushel_Billy.
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Speaker 2 (00:51):
What's up everybody?
Welcome to the Be Temperedpodcast, episode number 44.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
You sure, 100% positive.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Today I have the privilege, or we have the
privilege of sitting down withsomeone I've known most of my
life A lifelong friend, a highschool classmate and a
one-of-a-kind individual.
Bill Bauer is known to many onInstagram as Bushel.
Billy has built a massivefollowing on Instagram with his
unique perspective, his humorhis authenticity mostly based
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around agriculture perspectivehis humor his authenticity
mostly based around agriculture.
But beyond social media, billhas lived a life full of
experiences, lessons, storiesthat have shaped him into who he
is today.
We're going to dive into hisjourney, his outlook on life and
what keeps him pushing forward.
Bill, welcome to the BeTempered Podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Hey fellas, I'm excited to be here on the Lose
your Tempered Podcast.
Let's go.
It's a small kind of small room, but we're going to make it
work.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And cut Way to come out of the gate man I like it.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I don't even know what Be Tempered means, so I
figured it was a typo.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, it is it.
It is some days, it is oh,that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I would expect nothing less from you.
We were talking, uh, the otherday on the phone and we were
talking about high schoolmemories and, and you were two
years older than me, yes, inhigh school and, and we played
some football together and youtalked about my first football
game.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And how impactful it was.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
What an impact.
I happened to be a freshman andI was kind of forced into the
Got caught off the bench.
Starting lineup, first gameagainst northridge and, uh, the
very first play.
Yes, sir, I was supposed topull and I thought I pulled.
Well, the way I remember it was, I was a pulling guard and I
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pulled, but you seemed toremember it different.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I'm not sure you got out of your stance.
That middle linebacker blitzedwith all the force of a freight
train Aimed right at center massat you.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I do remember the hit .
I remember laying on the groundand I think you stood over me
and said welcome to high schoolfootball.
I did, I did.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I peeled you up.
Fun fact, it took the groundcrew eight hours to get the
indent of your back out of theturf.
The next, next day to get itall leveled out again.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So he pulled, he just pulled his back or something.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh, never a dull moment with you.
All right, bill.
So how we start these podcastsis we like to hear your story
growing up, so let's talk aboutchildhood for bill bowers okay,
uh, I'm a young gen xer.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
How's that for a twist?
Yeah, that's a twist.
So I I was born in the.
The late 70s, um got to workand here I am.
That's kind of the cliff now.
So um grew up in western ohio,uh, on a family farm, rural
community, rural school, um, andjust thought the men in my
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family farm, the women, werenurses and and we just worked.
That was, that was just kind ofthe way it was and it it wasn't
a chore, it wasn't a task, it'sjust kind of what the family
activity was and didn't didn'tbegrudge it, didn't mind chore,
it wasn't a task, it was justkind of what the family activity
was and didn't begrudge it,didn't mind it.
In fact we learned to kind ofenjoy it.
So came up through the 80s, notold enough to understand what
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the farm crisis was in the 80s,but old enough to realize that
things weren't necessarily rosy,that things were tight.
But we made it through okay andcame out the other end, did all
the things that normal kids doin junior high and high school
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Did football, the FFA, the 4-H,all those things.
I was actually told not to playfootball.
I was not allowed to playfootball and when they had
sign-ups in eighth grade I justdidn't get on the bus.
I went to football practice.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Who told you not to?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
My mother.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
No Claudia.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
You are not allowed to play football.
That would hurt my baby boy andthe football sign-ups.
I would go down and I signed upand I said go report to the
field next day.
So the next day I didn't get onthe bus, I went to football
practice and, uh, ended up, gotplayed through high school three
varsity letters, went on,played division three college
ball, earned three letters andwas captain my senior year up
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there still the tide for thebest team in campus history.
For what school was it?
Wilmington college.
So nice, um, but anyways, um,grew up, work some for your dad,
um, we were in the same churchtogether, worked in the
community, the communityfestivals, like I said, the ffa
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and the fourH and all thosethings, all the rowdy stuff that
board rule kids do on theweekends.
Went to Wilmington, squeezedfour years of college into five
and walked out of there with abachelor's in animal science and
a bachelor's in sportsadministration.
So, and played football allfive years.
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And my plan was the big ideawas I was going to graduate and
be an athletic director andraise mama cows on the farm.
But I didn't think it throughreal well.
When I was nine years old Iborrowed five hundred dollars
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from my dad.
I went over to my uncle and Ibought a heifer female cow from
my uncle.
For those that don't know, fivehundred dollars.
By the time I was a senior inhigh school I had 15 head of
cattle did you really, yeah thatI.
I started with that one and justsnowballed it 15 head of cattle
.
I sold half of them to pay formy freshman year of college,
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sold the other half to pay formy sophomore year of college.
So I come out of college goingto raise cattle and be an
athletic director, but I don'thave any cows.
I sold them all for that, Okay,okay, regroup, I think.
So I went down to our localhigh school and I got hired on
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to be the defensive coordinatorfor the football team and I said
I know the athletic director isretiring soon.
I'd like to become the athleticdirector.
And they said, well, do youhave a teaching degree?
I said, no, I've got a sportsadministration degree.
I can be your athletic director.
They said, well, the athleticdirector is just a supplemental
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position.
It's not a full-time job.
It pays $3,000 a year.
I'm like so quick, Matt, I'mmaking $2,400 a year as a
defensive coordinator, another$3,000 a year as an AD.
You made it.
We're winning big time here.
So all the plans that I had thedelusional plans that I had
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made that were poorly thoughtout and came out of college with
two very good degrees but apoor plan of execution for
full-time employment, ended updoing nutrition research for a
local feed mill, which was fine,saved a ton of money.
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When you work 12 days straightand get two days off and then 12
days straight you don't havetime to spend your money.
I don't know that the wage wasall that good, but the bank
account grew fast because Ididn't have time to spend your
money.
I don't know that the wage wasall that good, but the bank
account grew fast because Ididn't have time to spend it.
And a buddy of mine said hey,that um from college, he says.
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He says why don't you try toget your mba?
I said what do I need one infor?
He says you're a smart guy, youknow business, just just give
it a shot.
So I took the exam, theinterest exam, and I sent it
down to miami university of ohioand they called me and they
said hey, um, you scored wellenough on that exam.
If you agree to teach anundergraduate course we'll waive
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tuition and fees.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
All you got to pay for is books you go from wanting
to be an athletic director toteaching being a professor,
essentially well and kind of agrad student, right and so.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
But you know that didn't take me long to figure
out.
I was able to get my master'sin business administration,
concentrated in finance, for$400.
That's a good deal, $400, handsdown the best investment I've
ever made.
That two years and thatexperience and the people that I
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met through that program justpaid enormous dividends on that
$400 investment.
Enormous dividends on that that400 investment.
Um.
So I went to miami universityto to get my master's degree but
, uh, paid off the 400 being abouncer downtown on on friday
and saturday.
Still to this day the best jobthat I've ever held um was was
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bouncing in ox oxford ohio, yourson's sitting on the other side
of the glass watching.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
We probably won't tell any of those.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Where'd you bounce that?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
was it?
Brick street, um, right acrossthe road, right across the, the
guy the guy's brother, on thebar across the road, and and
that's, that's where where Iworked.
And then I only wanted to workfriday and saturday nights
because I needed to study.
I was weighing over my head, soI went to the guy and said I
only want to work Fridays andSaturdays.
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He says no one wants to workFriday and Saturdays.
I'm like, well, I need to workFriday and Saturdays, otherwise
I'll get in trouble.
Because I had classes Mondaythrough Thursday.
I'd go back down Friday campout in the library, try to learn
something, go to work thatnight.
Go back down Saturdayurdayafternoon camp out in the
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library.
Go to work saturday night, keepout of trouble, make a little
money and and finish the degree.
And while I was there, I got anopportunity to spend six months
in germany working, doingconsulting work in a automotive
factory that made windshieldsand backlights for glasses
guardian automotive, yeah, which, which was really cool.
Um, finished up my master'sdegree, was hired on to do loan
underwriting at a small bankhere in town, moved over into
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the farm credit system and loanorigination and did that for six
years.
And then, in spite of all mydegrees, I jumped into agronomy.
So, like most animal sciencemajors, you eventually wind up
in agronomy.
It's just it just took me alittle longer to get there so I
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started out managing thebusiness for for a large
agricultural company originatingsales, and managing the
logistics and the budgets, andand all that through through
some retail partners, and thenrecently they've moved me into
more of an agronomy positionwhere what what's really cool
about what I do now is I onlyfocus on the 20% of the customer
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base.
That equals 80% of our business.
Okay, that old 80, 20 rule that20% of your customers is 80% of
your business, but you end upspending 80% of your time with
yeah, with the 80% that onlymake up 20% of your business.
So my job is just to focus onthose large cherry accounts and
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make up 80% of our business andI got rid of all the
administrative, all thelogistics and business.
I got a team that helps me withthat and I just focus on those
account relationships withagronomic and product support at
the farm gate.
So that is 40 years in a greatbig hurry.
And somewhere along the way Itricked a beautiful young woman
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into marrying me 20 years agoand we we have three kids and
house picket, fence, a dog, thewhole, the whole deal you know.
So, donkeys, I don't have anydonkeys.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
What's those?
What's the videos from?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Those aren't your donkeys, those aren't my dog.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
He just went by somebody's house.
I was like I'm gonna film withthem.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
There there are days my neighbors chaff me enough.
I'm like okay, fine, you wantto be rowdy neighbors, we're
going to put donkeys in thebackyard and up the ante a
little bit nobody sings like alonely donkey at 3 am I can
promise you that.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well, Bill, you've always been a guy that doesn't
waste any time with excuses.
I think back to high school.
Do you remember when CoachKemper would have came in your
senior?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
year, senior year, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Do you remember where we worked out at the old middle
school in the bus barn?
Do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
That was the nice facility that was I mean.
Well, let's tell the story.
We started off with a machinethat had four stations on it in
the ticket booth Just enoughroom for four guys to chase each
other around this stupidmachine to pretend we were
lifting something.
Then we scabbed together enoughweights and we set up a weight
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room in your dad's barn.
Yeah, yeah, kerosene heater,and we wore gloves because the
bars were frosted.
And, as a living gentleman atwork, you were sweating and if
you grabbed the weights withyour bare hands, it stuck to the
weight because it was frosted.
And you know there's strawdrifting down from the straw
mile.
And you know we tried to coverall the cracks with motivational
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posters.
We'll call them.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
They're still up.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They're still there.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
And so, finally, they lit us the old VOAG room at the
school that they were gettingready to decommission.
Yeah, which?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
was our middle school our middle school.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, coach, got the call late in the evening.
Um, lucasville prison had ariot and they're getting away of
all the rid of all their weightequipment.
And we hooked the livestocktrailer to the truck like a
bunch of hillbillies and weheaded to lucasville prison and
threw as many weights in theback of that thing as as they
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they would let us.
Then we then we set up in theshop with scrap metal and
welders and we made benches andwe made racks and we were and,
uh, we, we built the whole thingand they let us move it into
the old shop.
And uh, that's that's where Istill got a key to that shop.
Is it still standing?
It's still standing.
You probably don still got akey to that shop.
Is it still standing?
It's still standing.
You probably don't need a key.
Probably not.
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I don't think the windows areintact.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
There's not much intact.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
But that summer me and one other fellow had decided
to go on and play college balland Coach gave us a key to the
weight room so that we couldtrain in the mornings before
school and prep for for ourcollege careers, I guess.
So yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That was quite the time.
I I mean, I have fond memoriesof, of all those things.
I didn't know if you rememberedbeing in the barn at the house,
um, oh yeah and and I rememberthat actually I don't know there
was a kerosene heater.
I think it was a nipco, probably, and you'd fire that thing up
and catch yourself out.
I don't know if it was akerosene heater.
I think it was a Nipco,probably, and you'd fire that
thing up and catch yourself out.
I don't know if anybodylistening knows what a Nipco
heater is, but it's basicallylike a flamethrower.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Kerosene or diesel either You're a small jet engine
on wheels that runs on kerosene, but the backdraft is pointed
at you.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
And when that thing fires up, it doesn't initially
just, you know, light.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
There's usually a little bit of smoke, which is,
uh, I'm sure, toxic, and thenand then it lights up and it
sounds like it, just like yeahit's very much a a movie scene
where they're running from thebad guys and they get in there
and they're trying to start theengine and it's, and puffs of
smoke are coming out.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You're high as a kite like okay let's lift something
heavy oh, that's good man.
Those are.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Those are some memories, so going to the jail
that's a real story or going tothe prison, yeah, getting the
weights, yeah with livestocktrailers yeah where the heck's
lucasville?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
southern ohio way down.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, you probably well, you were probably too
young, but yeah, they were.
They had the lucasville prisonriots and and I actually forgot
all about that until you saidthat yeah, that is amazing yeah,
that's how we got our way tothat national trail back in
probably 1992, 91, I don't knowwhat the years we brought home
what?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
2,500 pounds of steel .
Yeah, Just pitching out theback and like yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
When you went from a universal machine the size of
this table and you got all thisweight equipment.
I mean, it was like and thenwelding your own benches.
Oh yeah, we did all that.
I remember that.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, I'm sure there's still some around,
because I I'm sure sure we usequarter inch tube steel, and
yeah, I mean heavy, heavy stuffand then chuck thomas doesn't
mean anybody, anybody listening,but you and I remember, chuck,
we whoever welded it up webraised our initials on the
bottom of the bench.
I'd always wanted to go upthere and flip some of them over
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to see if our initials arestill underneath maybe we'll
have to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Maybe we'll record an intemperate episode in there.
All right, bill, so you'vealways my memories of you and
even now you've had a no excusesmindset.
Mm-hmm, was there a specificmoment or lesson in life that
helped to shape that for you?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I didn't really know it was an option and I've got a
photo on my desk.
I hadn't looked at in a longtime until we talked the other
day.
And in college the defensiveline we come up with, the team
motto for the year was noexcuses, and we had camp
T-shirts and it says no excusesacross the front of them.
At the same time my grandfatherwas going through chemotherapy
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Felt awful and bad.
I stopped to see him before Ileft for school and I've got a
photo on my desk with me andGrandpa staying in his kitchen.
I'm wearing that no excusest-shirt because Mom and I went
out there to give him a pep talkto make it through his
chemotherapy.
Give him a pep talk to make itthrough his chemotherapy.
But thinking about that mindset, the primary thing that jumps
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out to me is my parents and thefolks around me never once
blamed the referee, the teacher,the judge blamed the referee,
the teacher, the judge.
It was all you.
You achieved what you put inthe work to do and if there
happened to be a controversialcall, then you cut it too close.
If whatever it was was so closethat in a split second there
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had to have been a judgment call.
That could arguably go eitherway.
Then you cut it too close andit was never that conversation
on the way home.
Well, that referee or thatjudge was blind or that, you
know, he just hates our guts andthe teacher doesn't like you
and the coach wouldn't play me,and da-da, that was never the
conversation on the way home.
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And so that kind of built thefoundation and really, for me, I
still don't have any athletictalent.
I didn't have any athletictalent as a kid or a teenager.
My mother's going to kill mefor this, but she used to chase
me with syringes, trying toteach me how to run, because I
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as a kid I couldn't run.
I didn't know how to run.
The junior, the middle schoolgym teacher, kept me after class
to try to teach me to run.
I was that awkward and andclumsy, I just zero athletic
talent.
And I've always had the mindsetif I am here and I've made the
team and I'm surrounded by allyou guys with natural athletic
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ability, then I don't want tohear you crying, I don't want to
hear you whimpering.
If I can make this happen, if Ican earn that varsity letter,
if I can earn that spot, thenthere's no reason you guys can't
either.
So it just wasn't.
No one ever showed me a way toblame shortcomings off of
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somebody else, and then I wouldlook around and see all these
perfectly capable people andit's like you owe it to yourself
to do better to get there tofill your potential.
I mean, you should not beoutperformed by me.
I couldn't run, couldn't catch,couldn't throw.
I was strong and mean as asnake.
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Those were the only two thingsthat that made me successful on
what was wrestling or footballor anything else.
It wasn't athletic ability, andso, um, it was just that
mindset that if I can do this,then if you, if you can get past
whatever mental roadblock,whatever emotional roadblock is
holding you back, you can do somuch more.
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And if we're on a team together, I need you to do better, I
need you to do more.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Great answer and truth and man, that's got to hit
some people in the mouth intoday's society, right?
Yep, I mean, because it's aboutthe opposite of what, what we
see and what we hear.
You know, we're finishing upbasketball season with our, our
fourth grade boys and mancoaching some of these games and
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hearing, you know, parents inthe stands opposing team.
I mean it's brutal it's brutal.
I mean in basketballeverybody's on top of each other
.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So you know it's man, especially the elementary gyms
we play in literally on top ofeach other, right.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I mean, I just shake my head sometimes, just like
really, I mean, let's put thisin perspective.
You know these are 9, 10,11-year-old kids and you're out
here cussing out a referee.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I mean it's just amazing how people look for
excuses instead of pointing thefinger at themselves, sure
account, zero accountability andthat's the whole point of
u-sports is let's teachaccountability, let's teach
responsibility, let's have alittle fun along the way, and if
someone gets upset and losetheir temper, that it just ruins
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the whole experience, right forsure.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
A lot of people talk about what they want to do, but
few put in the work.
Why do you think so many peopleget stuck talking and not doing
?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
that that can be deep , but at the root of it it's a
fear of failure, and that thatfear looks different for
different people.
You know, if we paint with abroad brush I mean broad we all
have bugaboos that we carry upfrom our childhood.
Right, we all have anindividual experience, but from
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from a broad perspective, youknow, typically the number one
need of women is security andthe number one need for men is
honor and taking a risk.
Doing something different,doing more than what you've
achieved, is either a risky andinsecure position or it's a
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place where I could fail and anddamage my honor.
Right, and you know my wife andI will that fear manifests in
perfectionism.
Right, instead of moving andfiguring out and get going, it's
grinding through the details,it's preparation.
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I'm making progress, I'm beingsmart about this, I'm being a
good steward.
Really, it's just a cycle toput off that first step into
getting something accomplished.
We can come up with all theexcuses and all the reasons and
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accomplished.
So we can come up with all theexcuses and all all the reasons,
and a quick Google search canshow you a thousand examples of
why people that have overcomethe same things, that have have
made it happen that have made itwork and really nullify your
excuses and it all comes back to.
That's a little bit scary, thata little bit new, and I'm I'm
afraid of failure, I'm afraid toscrew this up yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
What's one of the hardest lessons you've learned
about work ethic andperseverance?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
um, um one.
We talked we were talkingearlier about childhood memories
and all that and and work ethic.
And you know there's there's ameme that's been been broadly
shared about leadership and youknow there's the the first image
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of a guy standing on like ablock of marble yelling at a
team of other guys to pull it,versus the next image of the
guys in front of the teamhelping pull and lead the way.
And one of the first instancesI've had of that is when I was
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elected president of the FFA andwe had a community volunteer
event.
You know we're going to go downto Fairgrounds, pick up garbage
, do our community thing.
And I'm in charge of this group, I'm the president, I'm in
charge and I just start barkingorders let's go, let's go, move
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it faster, faster, faster.
Get the bags, move this.
You missed a piece Over there.
How about this corner?
And Joe Salone grabbed me by theback of the neck and says what
are you doing?
I said I'm being a leader.
He says You're pissing peopleoff.
He says you're pissing peopleoff.
He says that barking orders isnot leadership.
You know, building your teamaround you, getting by and being
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an example, putting in the work, that's leadership and you know
it just hit me and it's alwaysstuck with me that you can bark
and scream and carry orders andpeople may even do what you say,
but they're going to resent it.
And it's that buy-in, it's thatcollaboration that I'm here
(27:43):
with you.
We're going to do this together.
This is not just being dictateddown to you.
This is a team effort dictateddown to you.
This is, this is a team effortthat that type of leadership is
just so powerful and can move,move away so many objects and
kind of go along with that.
You know, I was as a youngerman, I was a pretty rammy, jammy
(28:07):
kind of guy.
You know that there's only oneway to do it okay, I never heard
of rammy jammy definition isjust just full throttle, just
force it through.
Whatever needs done, we're justjust go at it, right.
And um, there were so manyexamples of the men in my family
(28:31):
using finesse to accomplishthings without the screaming,
without the curse words, withoutthe stress and and all those,
all those things I can remember,uh, second second cousin of
mine, jim, um, I went over tohelp him work pigs and growing
(28:54):
up and if you don't understandabout working pigs, that's fine
my mentality of chasing pigsthrough a barn was like taking
the battlefield in a Scottishkilt and a broadsword and going
oh it's coming to me, you know,and I go over to Cousin Jim's to
help him out and he opens thegate and just kind of pats the
(29:17):
pig on the back and the pig goesover here and he opens another
gate and the pig walks out and Ilooked at him and said how'd
you do that?
He says it's simple, we do itevery day and you know, I
thought you had to scream andbeat and roar yeah, absolutely
and absolutely.
And he didn't even have to saya word.
He just a stick here and a gatethere and they went all over.
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And my uncles and my dad werethe same way when we were doing
farm work.
And you get it exercised, youget your blood pressure up and
it's real easy to just starttrying to slam things through.
Things are going to slam thingsthrough, things are going to
break, bad words are going to besaid and you know it's it's
going to be bad and and to watchthese, these strong, capable
(30:01):
men in my family use finesse andgentleness to move, to move
through and navigate obstacleswas just so impactful because it
was.
It was completely opposite ofmy mindset, right to just jump
in and and and do it, and toslow down long enough to think
through it, to give people timeto process and digest and and to
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work with you instead ofinstead of against you, and um,
it was interesting.
One thing I always carry withme is about my father.
As his faith deepened and hisBible study deepened, he became
(30:44):
I don't want to say tolerant,but it was a much gentler
approach and a much moreunderstanding approach, much
more forgiving of shortcomingsand mistakes.
And you know, as a kid, in roughbudgetary times and things are
tight, you remember your dadbeing big and scary and
iron-fisted and damn it,everything counts and don't
(31:08):
screw this up.
And you know, as we came out ofthat and and he, he developed
deeper in his faith and and justthe kindness that he would show
and the understanding and notcompromising, not getting walked
on or taken advantage of, buthow much more we could
accomplish with a more finessed,softer approach.
(31:31):
Um, you know, from from thetime I was 17 years old and and
joe salone called me out on onbad behavior all the way up
until until adulthood, watching,um, watching this from the men
around me.
That just just spoke volumesyeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's.
That's great.
Leading into that, who who'smade the biggest influence on
your life and how have theyshaped who you are today?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Again, it, it'll, it's.
It's those, those strong,capable role models that I had,
the men in my family, the menthat I worked alongside with,
that were strong enough to bekind.
You know that I probablycarried with me more than
(32:24):
anything how to set yourboundaries, to be firm, not to
compromise, but also they'restrong enough to be kind and
tolerant and accepting theshortcomings, and so I can't
really point to well, you know,this one conversation or this
one individual.
(32:45):
It was all their influence.
You know the Bible says, in thewords of two or three men, a
thing is established.
Well, as a young man andthere's three or four or five
role models in my life that areexhibiting this it becomes
established as a way for a grownman and an adult to conduct
(33:07):
himself.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
And now you do that as a father, I try.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
You do, and now you do that as a father, I try, you
do, you do.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Can you share a challenge or an obstacle you
faced in your life and how it'simpacted you?
Speaker 4 (33:21):
algebra two lane mosaic tile.
That's hard.
Have you ever tried that youdid something?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
what'd you do on your back porch?
Didn't you have to string allthat wire?
Was that you?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah, oh, what a nightmare that was.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Because of you, we did not do that.
On our back porch, it looksbeautiful.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
But there's times like if I don't put this up, I
can just jump, you know.
But the cool thing is, forthose that don't know, the we
don't have railing around ourdeck.
It's a.
It's a series of high tensionwires um to increase the view of
the beautiful backyard um thethe side.
(34:05):
The bonus is if you electrifywires three and five, that keeps
the kids from climbing on weneed video of that yeah, well,
because the worry is, you knowthe kids will climb up and
they'll fall off off the deck,and it's just 20 feet in the air
.
So by electrifying every otherwire they learn real quick not
to climb on on the railingyou're gonna get notified by
(34:26):
child protection services it'snot worth the cattle.
all the time it's low voltage,low voltage, okay, something
hard, okay.
So you and I spoke last weekthat my goal for this podcast is
not to sit here and sound likeI got it all figured out right.
(34:47):
My goal for this podcast issomeone listening to go damn, if
he's still in the game, thenthere's a chance for me.
Um, so something that I thatI'm struggling with now we'll
we'll talk present day um, andand I'll go ahead and share this
with your listeners is is beingthe executive of your household
(35:10):
.
Right, and and you know, I runa business, I've got a full-time
job and you're making executivedecisions and there's
co-workers and employers andcustomers and you have to manage
that all day.
The last thing you want to dowhen you go home is manage your
family.
You just want to be with your,your family, but it's incumbent
(35:34):
upon you, as the head of yourhousehold, to exhibit that
executive leadership and to makesure that everybody's moving in
in a positive direction.
You don't want your kids to go,go dumb on you, especially you.
You've got way too many kids 17to Five Come on To afford.
(35:54):
If two or three of them go dumbon him, he's underwater, he'll
go bankrupt, that's right.
Dumb kids are expensive, it'strue.
So you know, as a husband and afather, you've got three roles
right Priest, prophet and king.
So now, before the emails startflying, don't hang with me.
(36:18):
Don't get upset.
So, as the priest, you'resupposed to bring God into your
household, right?
Introduce your family to God.
As the priest of your household, as the prophet, you uplift
your family to God, right?
You pray over your budget.
You pray over your needs.
You pray over your kidsovernight.
The best way to keep your kidsfrom going dumb is pray
(36:40):
scripture over them every night.
If you don't stop before you goto bed and pray over your kids,
I'd firmly believe in it and doit.
And then the last thing is king, and that's the one that gets
people's blood pressure up.
But king does not mean I am theruler and I set the way, and I
do think what king means isyou're responsible.
Everything that happens in thathousehold, everything that
(37:03):
happens in your family unit,you're responsible for, whether
you did it or not.
One of your kids get, go dumband break, get brought home by
the sheriff you're responsible.
It's not that kid's fault, it'syour fault.
Your marriage gets stressed.
You're responsible for that.
Your finances get out of whack.
You're responsible, um, for forall that.
(37:25):
So you know one.
One of the things we try to doweekly is is to sit down and
have a meeting um, just to makesure everybody's coordinated and
all the schedules are workedout and all that.
And what I would like to do isexpand that, then, and the
difference between running abusiness and running your
(37:46):
household is I don't have tocome up with a specific task,
right, my job is to help my wifeand my kids develop a vision
for their life and where theywant to go, especially the kids.
Help them develop a vision andthen, okay, so what steps are we
(38:07):
going to take towards thatvision and facilitate the
conversation that, as a family,want to look this way?
We want to head in thisdirection.
As a young man and a youngwoman, uh, coming up to the
teenage years, this is thevision for my life and it's
going to change and you'll gethalfway down the road, well, and
they'll be like this is kind ofboring.
(38:28):
I want to do something, okay,so we pitched the last 24 months
over the work and we juststarted on something else, and
that that's fine, that thatthat's all part of it, but it's.
It's helping them articulate avision for themselves, and then
let's take steps forward and andbringing the accountability and
the responsibility for forthose steps.
It's not for me, as the head ofthe household to say you're
(38:50):
going to go do these things.
It means like, okay, what,where do you see yourself going?
And help them facilitate thatconversation, okay.
So what steps are we taking toget there?
What are you going to do in thenext 30, 60, 90 days to bring
you closer to where you want tobe?
And that as as my kids aremoving into those teenage years
(39:10):
and we're getting closer tolaunching them into and I've
made no bones about it that myjob is to launch you in the
world right?
your mom and I are forever.
You three are just passingthrough, okay we're going to
launch you into the world.
But in order for me to do that,I need to help them envision
where they're going to go andhow, and how they're going to
(39:31):
get there.
So we're going to spend thoseteenage years, um, experimenting
and doing tasks, and I'm goingto challenge you and then follow
up with you to do somethingthat brings you closer to to
your life's vision.
And you know that all soundswell and good while we're we're
sitting here around the table,but in practice it is so hard.
Oh yeah, it is.
(39:52):
I mean it, but and it's, it'sthe love of family and the
kindness and you want to protectand you want to hug them.
And I don't want to have abusiness conversation with you.
I mean you're, you're my family.
I just want to be and enjoy andlaugh together.
But it is my responsibility,everything in this household is
(40:14):
my responsibility, and sooner orlater you're going to leave and
you need to be equipped toleave.
So once a week we're going tohave this conversation of where
you're going and what stepsyou're going to take to get
there yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
That's great.
That's great advice, I think,for anybody, any parent out
there with you know kids thatget into you know those teenage
years and those formative yearswhere, especially in today's age
, where they can be swayed in somany different directions with
social media and all this.
You know fake life that a lotof these people are showing and
living um, you know getting down, down and dirty and saying, all
(40:49):
right, what do you want to do?
How are we going to get there?
Those are importantconversations.
All right, what motivates?
Speaker 4 (40:58):
you to get out of bed in the morning.
It's not motivation, it'sdiscipline.
Motivation comes and goes.
There's highs and lows.
It's a discipline to a routine.
There's been times in my lifethat I've been very disciplined
and very routine and then yourlittle snow globe that you live
(41:18):
in gets shook up and everythinggoes, goes haywire and and you
got to rebuild that, thatdiscipline again.
But, um, motivation comes andgo.
But especially if you're, ifyou're married or you have a
family and I know not everybodylistening does but if you've got
that vision of where you'regoing right and we're building
(41:39):
this thing as a family my wifeand I are building this as
spousal units then it's adiscipline to those details and
those routines that are going toget us there.
And there's days you wake upand like, hot damn, let's get
something done, let's go do it.
And then there's days the alarmclock goes off and not again.
(42:01):
So you can't really rely on themotivation.
It's 5 am this is what we do at5 am.
It's Sunday afternoon this iswhat we do on Sunday afternoon.
It's just that discipline andthat routine that's all built
around a common vision and acommon destination.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, great answer.
Discipline is where it's at,for sure.
How do you envision your lifein the future, 20 years from now
?
Where are you at?
Hopefully on this side of theground, yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Sliding into the grave with nothing left but
strawberries and a half bottleof champagne.
Woo, I'm out.
Here's one thing that an oldfellow told me several years ago
and I've witnessed it.
An old fellow told me severalyears ago and I've witnessed it.
Once you learn to recognize it,it's heartbreaking to watch.
(43:06):
But once you run out of goalsand your goals for yourself are
replaced by memories, and that'sall you have left are your
memories, you run out of hope.
There's no hope for the future.
There's no hope, um, for youknow what, what tomorrow brings
right.
And so I've got goals andvisions where I'd like my
(43:29):
business to be, where I'd liketo be professionally and and all
those things.
And I've got timelines thatI've communicated to my wife
like my business to be where I'dlike to be professionally and
all those things.
And I've got timelines thatI've communicated to my wife and
my business partners and myemployer of places I want to go.
But so who knows which one ofthose pays off?
Who knows which one of them wetake and we take off.
But no matter how old I get, itwill be my intention to set a
(43:53):
goal and it may not be much youknow when my grandfather was 100
years old, how much more couldyou want to?
accomplish right but he wouldsay I'm going to trim hedges
today.
And he lived in his house untilhe was nearly 102 when he
(44:13):
passed away in his own house.
But he's 9,900 years old.
My goal I'm going to trim thehedges.
It may take me three days, butI'm going to trim the hedges and
I stopped in.
He was 99 years old and Istopped in and he edged the
sidewalks leading up to hishouse.
(44:34):
I brought the loader up and Iscooped a two yard bucket full
of sod that he had had trimmedoff his sidewalks and and so if
you don't have some sort of goalor something, you just sit
there and reflect on yourmemories.
Hope vanishes, despair, despairsits in, and that's not a whole
(44:55):
lot of fun.
So, for as long as I'm able toarticulate it, I hope that my
wife and I can set goals everyyear and be moving towards
something, and that's going tochange with seasons.
Right now, with kids andcollege and all that, that's a
very specific season.
I was talking to a classmate ofours uh saturday and he said one
(45:18):
of two kids is out of the house.
Enormous dynamic change in thehouse is like it's really been
an eye-opener where, where we'regoing in in our relationship.
So whatever that season bringsis fine, we'll face it when we
get there, but we're going toset goals and accomplishments
along the way, um, because ifyou don't, then things get ugly
(45:42):
for sure, any regrets in life sofar selling the cattle yeah,
that was dumb, but I didn't haveas much college debt either.
It all worked out, um.
So, you know, we've talked justabout youthful ignorance and
(46:07):
the opportunities that you missbecause you just didn't know any
better, and and I don't knowthat it's necessarily regrets,
because your experiences makeyou who you are and all that.
But I wish I'd been moreserious in my 20s and more
productive in my 20s.
(46:27):
I had a great time, y'all, itwas a blast, but there were
certainly missed opportunitiesand um and things that that I
would do do different.
So, uh, with, with that in theback of my mind, a couple things
, um that I'm trying to do withwith my kids, just to set them
(46:48):
up differently, with maybe adifferent mindset as we spend um
.
Once they get into high school,we start talking in terms of of
net margin and volume, which isreally weird, it is, but, but I
want them to understand how,how to recognize opportunities
(47:11):
and that that everything aroundus we're sitting here in
downtown, every building here isrunning on net margin, times,
volume, yeah Right.
And so we take an example.
You look at a social media starand she and her husband lived in
a janitor's closet.
She put in the work won MissOlympia.
(47:32):
Now they own seven businessesand and they they took that,
that notoriety and turned itinto to a fortune.
She's got four million millionwith an m.
Four million followers onsocial media.
She has a merchandise linesells 60 t-shirts.
It's got a 40.
She jumps on the internet andsays, hey, for Friday, only 30%
(47:57):
off these t-shirts.
Go out and buy them.
Still got a $27 margin in thoset-shirts.
If she can get 1% of the 4million followers, that's
$88,000 on a Friday afternoon.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, right.
And so you know, my oldest issitting over here in the
(48:20):
engineering room and he told meone day he's like I want to own
a guitar shop.
Okay, how much is an averageguitar?
$400.
Assume a 30% margin.
How many guitars would we haveto sell to make $80,000 a year
to pay rent?
(48:40):
And we sat down, we startedpenciling.
One it makes it feasible.
Two, it helps raise awarenessand understanding of how things
are going.
We were filling up with gas theother day.
I said what if I bought thisgas station and had you manage
it for me?
He looks around and says well,the signs are all wrong.
All the stuff in the windowshas got to go, we've got to do
(49:02):
this and you know we've got gasstations up the road.
We can't do much with the priceof gas, but it's got the
largest beer cave in the countyIn the neighborhood we're in in.
That's probably a pretty bigselling point.
So we need to redo all this tohighlight the largest bear cave
in in the county.
Right and just spitballingthose conversations just to try
(49:23):
to think of the world a littledifferently.
So you can.
It's like reading the matrix,right you?
gotta see see what's going onbehind it.
And um, a tip that I picked upfrom somebody else and I've been
trying to implement with myteenagers, which is really cool,
is to give them a task withoutinstructions but only results.
(49:45):
So here's something I want youto go do Go out into the barn
and do this and if you'resuccessful, you'll recognize
these three things.
These three things will happento you.
Well, how do I do it?
Figure it out.
And the challenge there's justthat different form of education
(50:07):
and problem solving and workingthrough things versus
memorization and regurgitation.
That here's the task, here'sthe desired results.
You've got an hour.
Go and just screw it up.
There been something up.
It's gonna cost me some money,but it's going through that
(50:30):
process of seeing the start andthe finish and filling in the
task on their own, and it annoysthe kids to death.
Just tell me what to do.
No, go figure it out.
Go figure it out.
And I gave my oldest a tip.
I was like whatever you do, donot do this step first.
(50:53):
This is the last step.
90 minutes later I go out.
He's sweated through his shirt,he's mad, and the step I told
him not to do was completed.
I said that's the last step.
You did it first.
He was like, yeah, that was,that was a bunch of hooey.
I was like, okay, okay, sowe're learning schools, schools
(51:17):
in session, so anyways, I whatthat means for my kids is as
they launch into adulthood.
I don't know, but I'm I'm justtrying to frame reality a little
different for them so maybethey could recognize some of the
opportunities that came my wayas a young adult, that I was
enjoying life too too much torecognize, and just just help
launch them with a little bitmore of a headstart than than
(51:39):
what I had.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah, for sure, that's great.
All right, bushel Billy, thatis your Instagram handle.
Yeah, over what?
12,000 followers or something,something like that?
Yeah, how did that start?
Speaker 4 (52:00):
and how did you get that many followers?
It's a mystery.
It's a mystery Working for alarge company in the
agricultural space, and there'sa lot of disconnect between
consumers and agriculture.
There's a lot of unknowns.
So we're always encouraged toshare your stories, share your
(52:21):
agriculture story, all thisstuff.
It was 2017.
We had just sold our house andwas living in a rental, shopping
for our next home, and, um, mywife and I were spitballing some
handles and we we came up withbushel billy and I threw, threw
(52:44):
a couple videos out there andand they caught traction and, um
, I immediately networked withfarmers and industry
professionals around the world.
Then the world got shut down.
No one had anything better todo than to stay at home and go
(53:05):
through their phones.
Pardon me, we were stillworking every day.
It was just the right place atthe right time to have some
momentum and to network withsome great people in the
industry.
I've made friends in Australia,brazil, austria, canada and all
(53:27):
across the US, and it's justbeen for me.
It it's just been a fan.
For me, it's always just beenabout networking and a lot like
this podcast is just learningother people's story right and
just how different.
Going from state to state,geography to geography.
This industry is, and so Idon't know that I ever set out
(53:48):
with a goal or a target, or itwas just a very natural
progression of interacting withfolks across the industry,
sharing, sharing insight that Ithought was interesting, that
other people might, might, takealong too, and it just kind of
snowballed from there yeah, andI would encourage everybody to
get on there and and check themout, and check out those videos,
(54:10):
because you know whether you'revideos, because you know
whether you're in agriculture oryou're not.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
If you're in agriculture, there's a lot of
educational things you know thathappened throughout the growing
season.
You know, in our, our neck ofthe woods, we're planting
soybeans and corn and wheat, uh,some alfalfa and and other
things.
You know it's it's kind of aunique perspective from our
geographic area.
But then you know whetheryou're trying to be funny or not
(54:35):
, and I know a lot of times youare.
There's a lot of good comedy inthere.
So I would encourage all of ourlisteners to go check that out.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
I'm going to have to up my game now, you did good
with the intro, yeah you did,yeah, made me want to shut it
off.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
No, I'm just kidding, all right, as we land this
plane.
Last two questions.
If you could have aconversation with someone,
living or deceased, who would itbe and why?
Speaker 4 (55:03):
that's a dumb question.
Thanks, what you're readingthat off of chat GBT?
Maybe Chat GBT what areinterviews?
No, that question's weirdbecause the pressure is oh, it's
got to be somebody that was sobrilliant or influential and you
know you got to make it count.
This is your one job.
(55:23):
That's baloney.
I want to have lunch with.
I want to sit down with andtalk to the people who are where
I want to be, and the reallycool thing about my job my nine
to five is I work with thoseoperators in our industry that
(55:44):
have accomplished what I want toaccomplish three days a week.
I get paid to take those folksout to lunch and pick their
brain and that is prettyfantastic, and so that is what I
enjoy most about my 9 to 5.
It's exciting to me as abusiness owner to sit down and
(56:08):
work and you know there's salesand product support and
education, all that goes with it.
But the my boss thinks I'mbuilding rapport.
I'm not building rapport.
I'm taking notes of how theydid that, right, yeah, how they
got to where they are andeveryone's got such a unique, a
unique approach and a uniquelaunching point and we were in
(56:31):
different positions when thatopportunity broke, when the
opportunity came to them.
At one time, I was working with460 different farmers.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
None of them farmed the same way.
Speaker 4 (56:45):
They all approached the business differently.
Now I work with 35 of the bestoperators in southern Ohio.
I just concentrate on those 35people.
Those are my 20%, that are 80%of my business and you know we
service them.
We give them the support theyneed to be successful and the
products they need to besuccessful and in return, I get
(57:07):
to hang out with them and seehow they do it and that they
don't understand.
They're mentoring me as a smallbusiness operator in that
industry.
But that is really a sweet,sweet kickback from my point of
view.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
That's a great answer .
And you know you talk about.
You know when opportunityknocks and you know most people
you go back to talking aboutthat fear of failure and, um,
you know a lot of times whenopportunity knocks, I think and
maybe I'm wrong, but maybe thedifference between you know
(57:45):
those 400 farmers you used towork with and those 35 you work
with now, or when, whenopportunity knocked for those 35
, they took it.
Yeah, right, no matter what therisk looked like, it was like
okay, yeah, there, there's riskhere, there's risk in everything
, right, but there's risk here.
But boy, the reward on the endcould be huge.
Yes, and, and maybe that's thedifference between those 35 and
(58:07):
those other 400.
Is it that when thatopportunity presented itself,
they took it?
That's a great point.
Speaker 4 (58:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
All right.
Last question You're a man offaith and you've.
We talked about goals andaspirations in life.
When things get tough, you knowwhen it's a bad day, or when
you know when you, when you'velost a loved one or business,
has been bad.
It's just been tough.
Is there a Bible verse?
Is there a quote that you leanon?
Speaker 4 (58:43):
There are two, and I'm blanking on the citation for
the second one, but, um, and inmy mind, there are two verses
that illustrate the good and thegood and the bad right.
So, um, philippians, um, Ibelieve the scripture is, for I
(59:06):
know the plans that I've madefor you, plans for success and
not failure.
And then then on, um, it may bejames, um, for the evil, one
stalks the earth thinking ofthings that he can kill, steal
and destroy.
And what I've come to learn isthe most common thing, stolen is
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what could have been, is whenopportunity knocks right.
So on this side, as someone offaith, we believe that God has a
plan for us and we'll besuccessful and good and not harm
and all those, if we have thefaith to chase it, if we take
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the risk, if you go out thereand do it.
And on the other side of thatis a force that's looking to
steal it and that could show upin so many different ways.
It could be self-doubt, itcould be setback, it could be a
neighbor that that lost it alland say geez, and and put the
(01:00:23):
brakes on, but but the goal isto steal what was promised to
you, promise to you.
And so when, when things, whenthings get rough and, um, you
know, there's there's days thatyou feel like king of the world
I finally got this figured outand there's days you just get
the snot whooped out of you andyou're like that can all be in
(01:00:46):
the same day.
Yeah, and it's, it's adifference between noon and the
phone call you get at 1 o'clock,but those two tend to circulate
in the back of my head.
That don't let what waspromised to you be stolen by
fear of moving forward or byfear of failure.
(01:01:08):
We started off the episode ofthat, but the self-doubt and the
obstacles that come your way isall in an effort to steal
prosperity and success from yourhousehold.
I'm confident in chasing thatbecause it was promised to me.
(01:01:30):
It's in the scripture.
It's promised to me if I justgo get it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I think that's great.
I think about that every day.
Like you said, there's dayswhere I feel like man, I must be
the smartest guy in the room,and then it could be 30 minutes
later where it's like you arethe biggest idiot I've ever seen
.
You know, I mean it's, it'samazing, but but I think the
(01:01:56):
critical thing in life and whatI've learned at 47 years old is
that you just keep going right,you just keep taking that step
forward.
It's just like whether you'rein football.
You know we relate everythingto sports, because sports was a
big part of my life, a big partof your life.
And you know the old analogy infootball is you're going to get
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knocked down, right, but yougot to get back up.
You know you got to get back upand you got to keep going and
you got to take that step everyday.
And, um, you know one thing Ilooked up a couple of quotes.
I was, I did use Chad GTP and Idid because what I, what I typed
in, was when I think of of youand I think back on our
(01:02:39):
experiences as kids growing upand in high school, and then you
going off to college, and youknow I I think of you as a hard
worker, I think of you asenthusiastic, which has come out
today.
Uh, I think of you as you know,whether you do or you don't,
not really caring what otherpeople think about you, you know
you are who you are and you'regoing to be who you're going to
(01:02:59):
be.
I found a quote nobody cares,work harder.
Right, and that's you in anutshell.
Right, nobody cares, workharder.
I don't need your excuses, Idon't need to hear that this
happened or that heart happened.
You know it happens.
It's life.
Keep going.
So that would hit me for you,good or bad, ben.
(01:03:25):
You got anything to to add, mrbushel bill?
Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Well, obviously the same thing that Dan kind of went
to about the fear of failure.
So, my favorite athlete well,one of my favorite athletes is
Kobe.
That's one of my favorites, andhe has two of them that I was
thinking of because you know Ihave kids in sports and it's
like you know, they're always Idon't want to say scared to push
themselves, but when they getlike like the pressure on them,
(01:03:51):
what can you go back to?
And there's two of them.
One says uh, you know, kobesays my brain it cannot process
failure, it will not processfailure, because if I sit here
or sit there and have to faceand tell myself you're a failure
, I think that's almost worsethan death.
And later on he would talkabout failure and he would say
um, you, you fail.
(01:04:11):
When you lose, what do you feel?
And he said I feel excited,like I just learned something,
and that's the most excitingthing is because I got a chance
to get better.
Then the second one was um, kindof has the same thing.
It says I have self-doubt, Ihave insecurity, I fear failure.
I have nights when I show up atthe arena and I'm like my back
hurts, my feet hurt, my kneeshurt.
I don't have it, I just want tochill.
(01:04:32):
We all have self-doubt.
You don't deny it, but you alsodon't capitulate it.
You embrace it.
I mean that's what his mamamentality type thing is.
That's what I always tell theboys.
And then you talk about the twoverses that you talked about.
It's the same thing that Ialways go to whenever I'm scared
(01:04:52):
to do something.
Right, it's like I'll prayabout it and it's like I still
don't know.
If I still don't know, and it'slike what if I don't do that
Right?
Am I going to let fear takeover my faith?
And it's like if I feel like ifI going at it with faith, I
don't think god's gonna let youfall right on your face with it.
You know what I mean, right?
(01:05:12):
So it's like the big thing thateverybody always talks about
fear, or faith over fear.
Don't let fear overcome yourfaith.
You always got to have yourfaith over the fear.
So that was the two things thatI kind of took away.
Yeah, that's great and we'venever had a better intro that
was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I knew you'd come out with something, any anything
else good, it's your show bossman, I appreciate you.
I appreciate our friendship.
It's been fun watching your,your kids grow.
It's hard to believe that, uh,they're as old as they are,
because that means we're oldyeah, but you're older.
Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Thank you for that.
I just still don't believe thathe's younger.
You look older than I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
I just don't Ew, come on I look older because I have
all the gray hair.
But all his gray hair fell out,but you have hair right.
He's actually got more grayhair than me, it just all fell
out oh.
Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
All right.
So everybody knows where theycan find you at Bushel Billy,
right On Instagram.
Go follow, go watch thosevideos and have a good laugh and
learn some things aboutagriculture.
Appreciate you, man.
Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Yeah, appreciate you coming, appreciate the
opportunity, guys, goodconversation.
Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Yeah, coming and telling your story.
So everybody go out like share,follow all those good things,
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What's up everybody?
Welcome to the Be Temperedpodcast, episode number 44.
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Today I have the privilege, or we have the
privilege of sitting down withsomeone I've known most of my
life A lifelong friend, a highschool classmate and a
one-of-a-kind individual.
Bill Bauer is known to many onInstagram as Bushel.
Billy has built a massivefollowing on Instagram with his
unique perspective, his humorhis authenticity mostly based
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around agriculture perspectivehis humor his authenticity
mostly based around agriculture.
But beyond social media, billhas lived a life full of
experiences, lessons, storiesthat have shaped him into who he
is today.
We're going to dive into hisjourney, his outlook on life and
what keeps him pushing forward.
Bill, welcome to the BeTempered Podcast.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Hey fellas, I'm excited to be here on the Lose
your Tempered Podcast.
Let's go.
It's a small kind of small room, but we're going to make it
work.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
And cut Way to come out of the gate man I like it.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
I don't even know what Be Tempered means, so I
figured it was a typo.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, it is it.
It is some days, it is oh,that's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I would expect nothing less from you.
We were talking, uh, the otherday on the phone and we were
talking about high schoolmemories and, and you were two
years older than me, yes, inhigh school and, and we played
some football together and youtalked about my first football
game.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And how impactful it was.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
What an impact.
I happened to be a freshman andI was kind of forced into the
Got caught off the bench.
Starting lineup, first gameagainst northridge and, uh, the
very first play.
Yes, sir, I was supposed topull and I thought I pulled.
Well, the way I remember it was, I was a pulling guard and I
(02:55):
pulled, but you seemed toremember it different.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I'm not sure you got out of your stance.
That middle linebacker blitzedwith all the force of a freight
train Aimed right at center massat you.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I do remember the hit .
I remember laying on the groundand I think you stood over me
and said welcome to high schoolfootball.
I did, I did.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I peeled you up.
Fun fact, it took the groundcrew eight hours to get the
indent of your back out of theturf.
The next, next day to get itall leveled out again.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
So he pulled, he just pulled his back or something.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh, never a dull moment with you.
All right, bill.
So how we start these podcastsis we like to hear your story
growing up, so let's talk aboutchildhood for bill bowers okay,
uh, I'm a young gen xer.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
How's that for a twist?
Yeah, that's a twist.
So I I was born in the.
The late 70s, um got to workand here I am.
That's kind of the cliff now.
So um grew up in western ohio,uh, on a family farm, rural
community, rural school, um, andjust thought the men in my
(04:13):
family farm, the women, werenurses and and we just worked.
That was, that was just kind ofthe way it was and it it wasn't
a chore, it wasn't a task, it'sjust kind of what the family
activity was and didn't didn'tbegrudge it, didn't mind chore,
it wasn't a task, it was justkind of what the family activity
was and didn't begrudge it,didn't mind it.
In fact we learned to kind ofenjoy it.
So came up through the 80s, notold enough to understand what
(04:37):
the farm crisis was in the 80s,but old enough to realize that
things weren't necessarily rosy,that things were tight.
But we made it through okay andcame out the other end, did all
the things that normal kids doin junior high and high school
(04:57):
Did football, the FFA, the 4-H,all those things.
I was actually told not to playfootball.
I was not allowed to playfootball and when they had
sign-ups in eighth grade I justdidn't get on the bus.
I went to football practice.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
Who told you not to?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
My mother.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
No Claudia.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
You are not allowed to play football.
That would hurt my baby boy andthe football sign-ups.
I would go down and I signed upand I said go report to the
field next day.
So the next day I didn't get onthe bus, I went to football
practice and, uh, ended up, gotplayed through high school three
varsity letters, went on,played division three college
ball, earned three letters andwas captain my senior year up
(05:42):
there still the tide for thebest team in campus history.
For what school was it?
Wilmington college.
So nice, um, but anyways, um,grew up, work some for your dad,
um, we were in the same churchtogether, worked in the
community, the communityfestivals, like I said, the ffa
(06:03):
and the fourH and all thosethings, all the rowdy stuff that
board rule kids do on theweekends.
Went to Wilmington, squeezedfour years of college into five
and walked out of there with abachelor's in animal science and
a bachelor's in sportsadministration.
So, and played football allfive years.
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And my plan was the big ideawas I was going to graduate and
be an athletic director andraise mama cows on the farm.
But I didn't think it throughreal well.
When I was nine years old Iborrowed five hundred dollars
(06:48):
from my dad.
I went over to my uncle and Ibought a heifer female cow from
my uncle.
For those that don't know, fivehundred dollars.
By the time I was a senior inhigh school I had 15 head of
cattle did you really, yeah thatI.
I started with that one and justsnowballed it 15 head of cattle
.
I sold half of them to pay formy freshman year of college,
(07:10):
sold the other half to pay formy sophomore year of college.
So I come out of college goingto raise cattle and be an
athletic director, but I don'thave any cows.
I sold them all for that, Okay,okay, regroup, I think.
So I went down to our localhigh school and I got hired on
(07:30):
to be the defensive coordinatorfor the football team and I said
I know the athletic director isretiring soon.
I'd like to become the athleticdirector.
And they said, well, do youhave a teaching degree?
I said, no, I've got a sportsadministration degree.
I can be your athletic director.
They said, well, the athleticdirector is just a supplemental
(07:52):
position.
It's not a full-time job.
It pays $3,000 a year.
I'm like so quick, Matt, I'mmaking $2,400 a year as a
defensive coordinator, another$3,000 a year as an AD.
You made it.
We're winning big time here.
So all the plans that I had thedelusional plans that I had
(08:13):
made that were poorly thoughtout and came out of college with
two very good degrees but apoor plan of execution for
full-time employment, ended updoing nutrition research for a
local feed mill, which was fine,saved a ton of money.
(08:34):
When you work 12 days straightand get two days off and then 12
days straight you don't havetime to spend your money.
I don't know that the wage wasall that good, but the bank
account grew fast because Ididn't have time to spend your
money.
I don't know that the wage wasall that good, but the bank
account grew fast because Ididn't have time to spend it.
And a buddy of mine said hey,that um from college, he says.
(08:54):
He says why don't you try toget your mba?
I said what do I need one infor?
He says you're a smart guy, youknow business, just just give
it a shot.
So I took the exam, theinterest exam, and I sent it
down to miami university of ohioand they called me and they
said hey, um, you scored wellenough on that exam.
If you agree to teach anundergraduate course we'll waive
(09:20):
tuition and fees.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
All you got to pay for is books you go from wanting
to be an athletic director toteaching being a professor,
essentially well and kind of agrad student, right and so.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
But you know that didn't take me long to figure
out.
I was able to get my master'sin business administration,
concentrated in finance, for$400.
That's a good deal, $400, handsdown the best investment I've
ever made.
That two years and thatexperience and the people that I
(09:57):
met through that program justpaid enormous dividends on that
$400 investment.
Enormous dividends on that that400 investment.
Um.
So I went to miami universityto to get my master's degree but
, uh, paid off the 400 being abouncer downtown on on friday
and saturday.
Still to this day the best jobthat I've ever held um was was
(10:19):
bouncing in ox oxford ohio, yourson's sitting on the other side
of the glass watching.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
We probably won't tell any of those.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Where'd you bounce that?
Speaker 4 (10:25):
was it?
Brick street, um, right acrossthe road, right across the, the
guy the guy's brother, on thebar across the road, and and
that's, that's where where Iworked.
And then I only wanted to workfriday and saturday nights
because I needed to study.
I was weighing over my head, soI went to the guy and said I
only want to work Fridays andSaturdays.
(10:46):
He says no one wants to workFriday and Saturdays.
I'm like, well, I need to workFriday and Saturdays, otherwise
I'll get in trouble.
Because I had classes Mondaythrough Thursday.
I'd go back down Friday campout in the library, try to learn
something, go to work thatnight.
Go back down Saturdayurdayafternoon camp out in the
(11:11):
library.
Go to work saturday night, keepout of trouble, make a little
money and and finish the degree.
And while I was there, I got anopportunity to spend six months
in germany working, doingconsulting work in a automotive
factory that made windshieldsand backlights for glasses
guardian automotive, yeah, which, which was really cool.
Um, finished up my master'sdegree, was hired on to do loan
underwriting at a small bankhere in town, moved over into
(11:37):
the farm credit system and loanorigination and did that for six
years.
And then, in spite of all mydegrees, I jumped into agronomy.
So, like most animal sciencemajors, you eventually wind up
in agronomy.
It's just it just took me alittle longer to get there so I
(11:59):
started out managing thebusiness for for a large
agricultural company originatingsales, and managing the
logistics and the budgets, andand all that through through
some retail partners, and thenrecently they've moved me into
more of an agronomy positionwhere what what's really cool
about what I do now is I onlyfocus on the 20% of the customer
(12:24):
base.
That equals 80% of our business.
Okay, that old 80, 20 rule that20% of your customers is 80% of
your business, but you end upspending 80% of your time with
yeah, with the 80% that onlymake up 20% of your business.
So my job is just to focus onthose large cherry accounts and
(12:45):
make up 80% of our business andI got rid of all the
administrative, all thelogistics and business.
I got a team that helps me withthat and I just focus on those
account relationships withagronomic and product support at
the farm gate.
So that is 40 years in a greatbig hurry.
And somewhere along the way Itricked a beautiful young woman
(13:08):
into marrying me 20 years agoand we we have three kids and
house picket, fence, a dog, thewhole, the whole deal you know.
So, donkeys, I don't have anydonkeys.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
What's those?
What's the videos from?
Speaker 4 (13:21):
Those aren't your donkeys, those aren't my dog.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
He just went by somebody's house.
I was like I'm gonna film withthem.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
There there are days my neighbors chaff me enough.
I'm like okay, fine, you wantto be rowdy neighbors, we're
going to put donkeys in thebackyard and up the ante a
little bit nobody sings like alonely donkey at 3 am I can
promise you that.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Well, Bill, you've always been a guy that doesn't
waste any time with excuses.
I think back to high school.
Do you remember when CoachKemper would have came in your
senior?
Speaker 4 (13:57):
year, senior year, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Do you remember where we worked out at the old middle
school in the bus barn?
Do you remember that?
Speaker 4 (14:05):
That was the nice facility that was I mean.
Well, let's tell the story.
We started off with a machinethat had four stations on it in
the ticket booth Just enoughroom for four guys to chase each
other around this stupidmachine to pretend we were
lifting something.
Then we scabbed together enoughweights and we set up a weight
(14:26):
room in your dad's barn.
Yeah, yeah, kerosene heater,and we wore gloves because the
bars were frosted.
And, as a living gentleman atwork, you were sweating and if
you grabbed the weights withyour bare hands, it stuck to the
weight because it was frosted.
And you know there's strawdrifting down from the straw
mile.
And you know we tried to coverall the cracks with motivational
(14:49):
posters.
We'll call them.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
They're still up.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
They're still there.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
And so, finally, they lit us the old VOAG room at the
school that they were gettingready to decommission.
Yeah, which?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
was our middle school our middle school.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, coach, got the call late in the evening.
Um, lucasville prison had ariot and they're getting away of
all the rid of all their weightequipment.
And we hooked the livestocktrailer to the truck like a
bunch of hillbillies and weheaded to lucasville prison and
threw as many weights in theback of that thing as as they
(15:27):
they would let us.
Then we then we set up in theshop with scrap metal and
welders and we made benches andwe made racks and we were and,
uh, we, we built the whole thingand they let us move it into
the old shop.
And uh, that's that's where Istill got a key to that shop.
Is it still standing?
It's still standing.
You probably don still got akey to that shop.
Is it still standing?
It's still standing.
You probably don't need a key.
Probably not.
(15:48):
I don't think the windows areintact.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
There's not much intact.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
But that summer me and one other fellow had decided
to go on and play college balland Coach gave us a key to the
weight room so that we couldtrain in the mornings before
school and prep for for ourcollege careers, I guess.
So yeah, that was.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That was quite the time.
I I mean, I have fond memoriesof, of all those things.
I didn't know if you rememberedbeing in the barn at the house,
um, oh yeah and and I rememberthat actually I don't know there
was a kerosene heater.
I think it was a nipco, probably, and you'd fire that thing up
and catch yourself out.
I don't know if it was akerosene heater.
I think it was a Nipco,probably, and you'd fire that
thing up and catch yourself out.
I don't know if anybodylistening knows what a Nipco
heater is, but it's basicallylike a flamethrower.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Kerosene or diesel either You're a small jet engine
on wheels that runs on kerosene, but the backdraft is pointed
at you.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
And when that thing fires up, it doesn't initially
just, you know, light.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
There's usually a little bit of smoke, which is,
uh, I'm sure, toxic, and thenand then it lights up and it
sounds like it, just like yeahit's very much a a movie scene
where they're running from thebad guys and they get in there
and they're trying to start theengine and it's, and puffs of
smoke are coming out.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You're high as a kite like okay let's lift something
heavy oh, that's good man.
Those are.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Those are some memories, so going to the jail
that's a real story or going tothe prison, yeah, getting the
weights, yeah with livestocktrailers yeah where the heck's
lucasville?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
southern ohio way down.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Yeah, you probably well, you were probably too
young, but yeah, they were.
They had the lucasville prisonriots and and I actually forgot
all about that until you saidthat yeah, that is amazing yeah,
that's how we got our way tothat national trail back in
probably 1992, 91, I don't knowwhat the years we brought home
what?
Speaker 4 (17:43):
2,500 pounds of steel .
Yeah, Just pitching out theback and like yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
When you went from a universal machine the size of
this table and you got all thisweight equipment.
I mean, it was like and thenwelding your own benches.
Oh yeah, we did all that.
I remember that.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Yeah, I'm sure there's still some around,
because I I'm sure sure we usequarter inch tube steel, and
yeah, I mean heavy, heavy stuffand then chuck thomas doesn't
mean anybody, anybody listening,but you and I remember, chuck,
we whoever welded it up webraised our initials on the
bottom of the bench.
I'd always wanted to go upthere and flip some of them over
(18:21):
to see if our initials arestill underneath maybe we'll
have to do that.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Maybe we'll record an intemperate episode in there.
All right, bill, so you'vealways my memories of you and
even now you've had a no excusesmindset.
Mm-hmm, was there a specificmoment or lesson in life that
helped to shape that for you?
Speaker 4 (18:44):
I didn't really know it was an option and I've got a
photo on my desk.
I hadn't looked at in a longtime until we talked the other
day.
And in college the defensiveline we come up with, the team
motto for the year was noexcuses, and we had camp
T-shirts and it says no excusesacross the front of them.
At the same time my grandfatherwas going through chemotherapy
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Felt awful and bad.
I stopped to see him before Ileft for school and I've got a
photo on my desk with me andGrandpa staying in his kitchen.
I'm wearing that no excusest-shirt because Mom and I went
out there to give him a pep talkto make it through his
chemotherapy.
Give him a pep talk to make itthrough his chemotherapy.
But thinking about that mindset, the primary thing that jumps
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out to me is my parents and thefolks around me never once
blamed the referee, the teacher,the judge blamed the referee,
the teacher, the judge.
It was all you.
You achieved what you put inthe work to do and if there
happened to be a controversialcall, then you cut it too close.
If whatever it was was so closethat in a split second there
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had to have been a judgment call.
That could arguably go eitherway.
Then you cut it too close andit was never that conversation
on the way home.
Well, that referee or thatjudge was blind or that, you
know, he just hates our guts andthe teacher doesn't like you
and the coach wouldn't play me,and da-da, that was never the
conversation on the way home.
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And so that kind of built thefoundation and really, for me, I
still don't have any athletictalent.
I didn't have any athletictalent as a kid or a teenager.
My mother's going to kill mefor this, but she used to chase
me with syringes, trying toteach me how to run, because I
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as a kid I couldn't run.
I didn't know how to run.
The junior, the middle schoolgym teacher, kept me after class
to try to teach me to run.
I was that awkward and andclumsy, I just zero athletic
talent.
And I've always had the mindsetif I am here and I've made the
team and I'm surrounded by allyou guys with natural athletic
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ability, then I don't want tohear you crying, I don't want to
hear you whimpering.
If I can make this happen, if Ican earn that varsity letter,
if I can earn that spot, thenthere's no reason you guys can't
either.
So it just wasn't.
No one ever showed me a way toblame shortcomings off of
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somebody else, and then I wouldlook around and see all these
perfectly capable people andit's like you owe it to yourself
to do better to get there tofill your potential.
I mean, you should not beoutperformed by me.
I couldn't run, couldn't catch,couldn't throw.
I was strong and mean as asnake.
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Those were the only two thingsthat that made me successful on
what was wrestling or footballor anything else.
It wasn't athletic ability, andso, um, it was just that
mindset that if I can do this,then if you, if you can get past
whatever mental roadblock,whatever emotional roadblock is
holding you back, you can do somuch more.
(22:15):
And if we're on a team together, I need you to do better, I
need you to do more.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Great answer and truth and man, that's got to hit
some people in the mouth intoday's society, right?
Yep, I mean, because it's aboutthe opposite of what, what we
see and what we hear.
You know, we're finishing upbasketball season with our, our
fourth grade boys and mancoaching some of these games and
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hearing, you know, parents inthe stands opposing team.
I mean it's brutal it's brutal.
I mean in basketballeverybody's on top of each other
.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
So you know it's man, especially the elementary gyms
we play in literally on top ofeach other, right.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I mean, I just shake my head sometimes, just like
really, I mean, let's put thisin perspective.
You know these are 9, 10,11-year-old kids and you're out
here cussing out a referee.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
I mean it's just amazing how people look for
excuses instead of pointing thefinger at themselves, sure
account, zero accountability andthat's the whole point of
u-sports is let's teachaccountability, let's teach
responsibility, let's have alittle fun along the way, and if
someone gets upset and losetheir temper, that it just ruins
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the whole experience, right forsure.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
A lot of people talk about what they want to do, but
few put in the work.
Why do you think so many peopleget stuck talking and not doing
?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
that that can be deep , but at the root of it it's a
fear of failure, and that thatfear looks different for
different people.
You know, if we paint with abroad brush I mean broad we all
have bugaboos that we carry upfrom our childhood.
Right, we all have anindividual experience, but from
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from a broad perspective, youknow, typically the number one
need of women is security andthe number one need for men is
honor and taking a risk.
Doing something different,doing more than what you've
achieved, is either a risky andinsecure position or it's a
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place where I could fail and anddamage my honor.
Right, and you know my wife andI will that fear manifests in
perfectionism.
Right, instead of moving andfiguring out and get going, it's
grinding through the details,it's preparation.
(24:55):
I'm making progress, I'm beingsmart about this, I'm being a
good steward.
Really, it's just a cycle toput off that first step into
getting something accomplished.
We can come up with all theexcuses and all the reasons and
(25:15):
accomplished.
So we can come up with all theexcuses and all all the reasons,
and a quick Google search canshow you a thousand examples of
why people that have overcomethe same things, that have have
made it happen that have made itwork and really nullify your
excuses and it all comes back to.
That's a little bit scary, thata little bit new, and I'm I'm
afraid of failure, I'm afraid toscrew this up yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
What's one of the hardest lessons you've learned
about work ethic andperseverance?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
um, um one.
We talked we were talkingearlier about childhood memories
and all that and and work ethic.
And you know there's there's ameme that's been been broadly
shared about leadership and youknow there's the the first image
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of a guy standing on like ablock of marble yelling at a
team of other guys to pull it,versus the next image of the
guys in front of the teamhelping pull and lead the way.
And one of the first instancesI've had of that is when I was
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elected president of the FFA andwe had a community volunteer
event.
You know we're going to go downto Fairgrounds, pick up garbage
, do our community thing.
And I'm in charge of this group, I'm the president, I'm in
charge and I just start barkingorders let's go, let's go, move
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it faster, faster, faster.
Get the bags, move this.
You missed a piece Over there.
How about this corner?
And Joe Salone grabbed me by theback of the neck and says what
are you doing?
I said I'm being a leader.
He says You're pissing peopleoff.
He says you're pissing peopleoff.
He says that barking orders isnot leadership.
You know, building your teamaround you, getting by and being
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an example, putting in the work, that's leadership and you know
it just hit me and it's alwaysstuck with me that you can bark
and scream and carry orders andpeople may even do what you say,
but they're going to resent it.
And it's that buy-in, it's thatcollaboration that I'm here
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with you.
We're going to do this together.
This is not just being dictateddown to you.
This is a team effort dictateddown to you.
This is, this is a team effortthat that type of leadership is
just so powerful and can move,move away so many objects and
kind of go along with that.
You know, I was as a youngerman, I was a pretty rammy, jammy
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kind of guy.
You know that there's only oneway to do it okay, I never heard
of rammy jammy definition isjust just full throttle, just
force it through.
Whatever needs done, we're justjust go at it, right.
And um, there were so manyexamples of the men in my family
(28:31):
using finesse to accomplishthings without the screaming,
without the curse words, withoutthe stress and and all those,
all those things I can remember,uh, second second cousin of
mine, jim, um, I went over tohelp him work pigs and growing
(28:54):
up and if you don't understandabout working pigs, that's fine
my mentality of chasing pigsthrough a barn was like taking
the battlefield in a Scottishkilt and a broadsword and going
oh it's coming to me, you know,and I go over to Cousin Jim's to
help him out and he opens thegate and just kind of pats the
(29:17):
pig on the back and the pig goesover here and he opens another
gate and the pig walks out and Ilooked at him and said how'd
you do that?
He says it's simple, we do itevery day and you know, I
thought you had to scream andbeat and roar yeah, absolutely
and absolutely.
And he didn't even have to saya word.
He just a stick here and a gatethere and they went all over.
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And my uncles and my dad werethe same way when we were doing
farm work.
And you get it exercised, youget your blood pressure up and
it's real easy to just starttrying to slam things through.
Things are going to slam thingsthrough, things are going to
break, bad words are going to besaid and you know it's it's
going to be bad and and to watchthese, these strong, capable
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men in my family use finesse andgentleness to move, to move
through and navigate obstacleswas just so impactful because it
was.
It was completely opposite ofmy mindset, right to just jump
in and and and do it, and toslow down long enough to think
through it, to give people timeto process and digest and and to
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work with you instead ofinstead of against you, and um,
it was interesting.
One thing I always carry withme is about my father.
As his faith deepened and hisBible study deepened, he became
(30:44):
I don't want to say tolerant,but it was a much gentler
approach and a much moreunderstanding approach, much
more forgiving of shortcomingsand mistakes.
And you know, as a kid, in roughbudgetary times and things are
tight, you remember your dadbeing big and scary and
iron-fisted and damn it,everything counts and don't
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screw this up.
And you know, as we came out ofthat and and he, he developed
deeper in his faith and and justthe kindness that he would show
and the understanding and notcompromising, not getting walked
on or taken advantage of, buthow much more we could
accomplish with a more finessed,softer approach.
(31:31):
Um, you know, from from thetime I was 17 years old and and
joe salone called me out on onbad behavior all the way up
until until adulthood, watching,um, watching this from the men
around me.
That just just spoke volumesyeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's.
That's great.
Leading into that, who who'smade the biggest influence on
your life and how have theyshaped who you are today?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Again, it, it'll, it's.
It's those, those strong,capable role models that I had,
the men in my family, the menthat I worked alongside with,
that were strong enough to bekind.
You know that I probablycarried with me more than
(32:24):
anything how to set yourboundaries, to be firm, not to
compromise, but also they'restrong enough to be kind and
tolerant and accepting theshortcomings, and so I can't
really point to well, you know,this one conversation or this
one individual.
(32:45):
It was all their influence.
You know the Bible says, in thewords of two or three men, a
thing is established.
Well, as a young man andthere's three or four or five
role models in my life that areexhibiting this it becomes
established as a way for a grownman and an adult to conduct
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himself.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
And now you do that as a father, I try.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
You do, and now you do that as a father, I try, you
do, you do.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Can you share a challenge or an obstacle you
faced in your life and how it'simpacted you?
Speaker 4 (33:21):
algebra two lane mosaic tile.
That's hard.
Have you ever tried that youdid something?
Speaker 2 (33:30):
what'd you do on your back porch?
Didn't you have to string allthat wire?
Was that you?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
Yeah, oh, what a nightmare that was.
Speaker 2 (33:39):
Because of you, we did not do that.
On our back porch, it looksbeautiful.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
But there's times like if I don't put this up, I
can just jump, you know.
But the cool thing is, forthose that don't know, the we
don't have railing around ourdeck.
It's a.
It's a series of high tensionwires um to increase the view of
the beautiful backyard um thethe side.
(34:05):
The bonus is if you electrifywires three and five, that keeps
the kids from climbing on weneed video of that yeah, well,
because the worry is, you knowthe kids will climb up and
they'll fall off off the deck,and it's just 20 feet in the air
.
So by electrifying every otherwire they learn real quick not
to climb on on the railingyou're gonna get notified by
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child protection services it'snot worth the cattle.
all the time it's low voltage,low voltage, okay, something
hard, okay.
So you and I spoke last weekthat my goal for this podcast is
not to sit here and sound likeI got it all figured out right.
(34:47):
My goal for this podcast issomeone listening to go damn, if
he's still in the game, thenthere's a chance for me.
Um, so something that I thatI'm struggling with now we'll
we'll talk present day um, andand I'll go ahead and share this
with your listeners is is beingthe executive of your household
(35:10):
.
Right, and and you know, I runa business, I've got a full-time
job and you're making executivedecisions and there's
co-workers and employers andcustomers and you have to manage
that all day.
The last thing you want to dowhen you go home is manage your
family.
You just want to be with your,your family, but it's incumbent
(35:34):
upon you, as the head of yourhousehold, to exhibit that
executive leadership and to makesure that everybody's moving in
in a positive direction.
You don't want your kids to go,go dumb on you, especially you.
You've got way too many kids 17to Five Come on To afford.
(35:54):
If two or three of them go dumbon him, he's underwater, he'll
go bankrupt, that's right.
Dumb kids are expensive, it'strue.
So you know, as a husband and afather, you've got three roles
right Priest, prophet and king.
So now, before the emails startflying, don't hang with me.
(36:18):
Don't get upset.
So, as the priest, you'resupposed to bring God into your
household, right?
Introduce your family to God.
As the priest of your household, as the prophet, you uplift
your family to God, right?
You pray over your budget.
You pray over your needs.
You pray over your kidsovernight.
The best way to keep your kidsfrom going dumb is pray
(36:40):
scripture over them every night.
If you don't stop before you goto bed and pray over your kids,
I'd firmly believe in it and doit.
And then the last thing is king, and that's the one that gets
people's blood pressure up.
But king does not mean I am theruler and I set the way, and I
do think what king means isyou're responsible.
Everything that happens in thathousehold, everything that
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happens in your family unit,you're responsible for, whether
you did it or not.
One of your kids get, go dumband break, get brought home by
the sheriff you're responsible.
It's not that kid's fault, it'syour fault.
Your marriage gets stressed.
You're responsible for that.
Your finances get out of whack.
You're responsible, um, for forall that.
(37:25):
So you know one.
One of the things we try to doweekly is is to sit down and
have a meeting um, just to makesure everybody's coordinated and
all the schedules are workedout and all that.
And what I would like to do isexpand that, then, and the
difference between running abusiness and running your
(37:46):
household is I don't have tocome up with a specific task,
right, my job is to help my wifeand my kids develop a vision
for their life and where theywant to go, especially the kids.
Help them develop a vision andthen, okay, so what steps are we
(38:07):
going to take towards thatvision and facilitate the
conversation that, as a family,want to look this way?
We want to head in thisdirection.
As a young man and a youngwoman, uh, coming up to the
teenage years, this is thevision for my life and it's
going to change and you'll gethalfway down the road, well, and
they'll be like this is kind ofboring.
(38:28):
I want to do something, okay,so we pitched the last 24 months
over the work and we juststarted on something else, and
that that's fine, that thatthat's all part of it, but it's.
It's helping them articulate avision for themselves, and then
let's take steps forward and andbringing the accountability and
the responsibility for forthose steps.
It's not for me, as the head ofthe household to say you're
(38:50):
going to go do these things.
It means like, okay, what,where do you see yourself going?
And help them facilitate thatconversation, okay.
So what steps are we taking toget there?
What are you going to do in thenext 30, 60, 90 days to bring
you closer to where you want tobe?
And that as as my kids aremoving into those teenage years
(39:10):
and we're getting closer tolaunching them into and I've
made no bones about it that myjob is to launch you in the
world right?
your mom and I are forever.
You three are just passingthrough, okay we're going to
launch you into the world.
But in order for me to do that,I need to help them envision
where they're going to go andhow, and how they're going to
(39:31):
get there.
So we're going to spend thoseteenage years, um, experimenting
and doing tasks, and I'm goingto challenge you and then follow
up with you to do somethingthat brings you closer to to
your life's vision.
And you know that all soundswell and good while we're we're
sitting here around the table,but in practice it is so hard.
Oh yeah, it is.
(39:52):
I mean it, but and it's, it'sthe love of family and the
kindness and you want to protectand you want to hug them.
And I don't want to have abusiness conversation with you.
I mean you're, you're my family.
I just want to be and enjoy andlaugh together.
But it is my responsibility,everything in this household is
(40:14):
my responsibility, and sooner orlater you're going to leave and
you need to be equipped toleave.
So once a week we're going tohave this conversation of where
you're going and what stepsyou're going to take to get
there yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
That's great.
That's great advice, I think,for anybody, any parent out
there with you know kids thatget into you know those teenage
years and those formative yearswhere, especially in today's age
, where they can be swayed in somany different directions with
social media and all this.
You know fake life that a lotof these people are showing and
living um, you know getting down, down and dirty and saying, all
(40:49):
right, what do you want to do?
How are we going to get there?
Those are importantconversations.
All right, what motivates?
Speaker 4 (40:58):
you to get out of bed in the morning.
It's not motivation, it'sdiscipline.
Motivation comes and goes.
There's highs and lows.
It's a discipline to a routine.
There's been times in my lifethat I've been very disciplined
and very routine and then yourlittle snow globe that you live
(41:18):
in gets shook up and everythinggoes, goes haywire and and you
got to rebuild that, thatdiscipline again.
But, um, motivation comes andgo.
But especially if you're, ifyou're married or you have a
family and I know not everybodylistening does but if you've got
that vision of where you'regoing right and we're building
(41:39):
this thing as a family my wifeand I are building this as
spousal units then it's adiscipline to those details and
those routines that are going toget us there.
And there's days you wake upand like, hot damn, let's get
something done, let's go do it.
And then there's days the alarmclock goes off and not again.
(42:01):
So you can't really rely on themotivation.
It's 5 am this is what we do at5 am.
It's Sunday afternoon this iswhat we do on Sunday afternoon.
It's just that discipline andthat routine that's all built
around a common vision and acommon destination.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Yeah, great answer.
Discipline is where it's at,for sure.
How do you envision your lifein the future, 20 years from now
?
Where are you at?
Hopefully on this side of theground, yeah.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Sliding into the grave with nothing left but
strawberries and a half bottleof champagne.
Woo, I'm out.
Here's one thing that an oldfellow told me several years ago
and I've witnessed it.
An old fellow told me severalyears ago and I've witnessed it.
Once you learn to recognize it,it's heartbreaking to watch.
(43:06):
But once you run out of goalsand your goals for yourself are
replaced by memories, and that'sall you have left are your
memories, you run out of hope.
There's no hope for the future.
There's no hope, um, for youknow what, what tomorrow brings
right.
And so I've got goals andvisions where I'd like my
(43:29):
business to be, where I'd liketo be professionally and and all
those things.
And I've got timelines thatI've communicated to my wife
like my business to be where I'dlike to be professionally and
all those things.
And I've got timelines thatI've communicated to my wife and
my business partners and myemployer of places I want to go.
But so who knows which one ofthose pays off?
Who knows which one of them wetake and we take off.
But no matter how old I get, itwill be my intention to set a
(43:53):
goal and it may not be much youknow when my grandfather was 100
years old, how much more couldyou want to?
accomplish right but he wouldsay I'm going to trim hedges
today.
And he lived in his house untilhe was nearly 102 when he
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passed away in his own house.
But he's 9,900 years old.
My goal I'm going to trim thehedges.
It may take me three days, butI'm going to trim the hedges and
I stopped in.
He was 99 years old and Istopped in and he edged the
sidewalks leading up to hishouse.
(44:34):
I brought the loader up and Iscooped a two yard bucket full
of sod that he had had trimmedoff his sidewalks and and so if
you don't have some sort of goalor something, you just sit
there and reflect on yourmemories.
Hope vanishes, despair, despairsits in, and that's not a whole
(44:55):
lot of fun.
So, for as long as I'm able toarticulate it, I hope that my
wife and I can set goals everyyear and be moving towards
something, and that's going tochange with seasons.
Right now, with kids andcollege and all that, that's a
very specific season.
I was talking to a classmate ofours uh saturday and he said one
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of two kids is out of the house.
Enormous dynamic change in thehouse is like it's really been
an eye-opener where, where we'regoing in in our relationship.
So whatever that season bringsis fine, we'll face it when we
get there, but we're going toset goals and accomplishments
along the way, um, because ifyou don't, then things get ugly
(45:42):
for sure, any regrets in life sofar selling the cattle yeah,
that was dumb, but I didn't haveas much college debt either.
It all worked out, um.
So, you know, we've talked justabout youthful ignorance and
(46:07):
the opportunities that you missbecause you just didn't know any
better, and and I don't knowthat it's necessarily regrets,
because your experiences makeyou who you are and all that.
But I wish I'd been moreserious in my 20s and more
productive in my 20s.
(46:27):
I had a great time, y'all, itwas a blast, but there were
certainly missed opportunitiesand um and things that that I
would do do different.
So, uh, with, with that in theback of my mind, a couple things
, um that I'm trying to do withwith my kids, just to set them
(46:48):
up differently, with maybe adifferent mindset as we spend um
.
Once they get into high school,we start talking in terms of of
net margin and volume, which isreally weird, it is, but, but I
want them to understand how,how to recognize opportunities
(47:11):
and that that everything aroundus we're sitting here in
downtown, every building here isrunning on net margin, times,
volume, yeah Right.
And so we take an example.
You look at a social media starand she and her husband lived in
a janitor's closet.
She put in the work won MissOlympia.
(47:32):
Now they own seven businessesand and they they took that,
that notoriety and turned itinto to a fortune.
She's got four million millionwith an m.
Four million followers onsocial media.
She has a merchandise linesells 60 t-shirts.
It's got a 40.
She jumps on the internet andsays, hey, for Friday, only 30%
(47:57):
off these t-shirts.
Go out and buy them.
Still got a $27 margin in thoset-shirts.
If she can get 1% of the 4million followers, that's
$88,000 on a Friday afternoon.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah, right.
And so you know, my oldest issitting over here in the
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engineering room and he told meone day he's like I want to own
a guitar shop.
Okay, how much is an averageguitar?
$400.
Assume a 30% margin.
How many guitars would we haveto sell to make $80,000 a year
to pay rent?
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And we sat down, we startedpenciling.
One it makes it feasible.
Two, it helps raise awarenessand understanding of how things
are going.
We were filling up with gas theother day.
I said what if I bought thisgas station and had you manage
it for me?
He looks around and says well,the signs are all wrong.
All the stuff in the windowshas got to go, we've got to do
(49:02):
this and you know we've got gasstations up the road.
We can't do much with the priceof gas, but it's got the
largest beer cave in the countyIn the neighborhood we're in in.
That's probably a pretty bigselling point.
So we need to redo all this tohighlight the largest bear cave
in in the county.
Right and just spitballingthose conversations just to try
(49:23):
to think of the world a littledifferently.
So you can.
It's like reading the matrix,right you?
gotta see see what's going onbehind it.
And um, a tip that I picked upfrom somebody else and I've been
trying to implement with myteenagers, which is really cool,
is to give them a task withoutinstructions but only results.
(49:45):
So here's something I want youto go do Go out into the barn
and do this and if you'resuccessful, you'll recognize
these three things.
These three things will happento you.
Well, how do I do it?
Figure it out.
And the challenge there's justthat different form of education
(50:07):
and problem solving and workingthrough things versus
memorization and regurgitation.
That here's the task, here'sthe desired results.
You've got an hour.
Go and just screw it up.
There been something up.
It's gonna cost me some money,but it's going through that
(50:30):
process of seeing the start andthe finish and filling in the
task on their own, and it annoysthe kids to death.
Just tell me what to do.
No, go figure it out.
Go figure it out.
And I gave my oldest a tip.
I was like whatever you do, donot do this step first.
(50:53):
This is the last step.
90 minutes later I go out.
He's sweated through his shirt,he's mad, and the step I told
him not to do was completed.
I said that's the last step.
You did it first.
He was like, yeah, that was,that was a bunch of hooey.
I was like, okay, okay, sowe're learning schools, schools
(51:17):
in session, so anyways, I whatthat means for my kids is as
they launch into adulthood.
I don't know, but I'm I'm justtrying to frame reality a little
different for them so maybethey could recognize some of the
opportunities that came my wayas a young adult, that I was
enjoying life too too much torecognize, and just just help
launch them with a little bitmore of a headstart than than
(51:39):
what I had.
Speaker 2 (51:39):
Yeah, for sure, that's great.
All right, bushel Billy, thatis your Instagram handle.
Yeah, over what?
12,000 followers or something,something like that?
Yeah, how did that start?
Speaker 4 (52:00):
and how did you get that many followers?
It's a mystery.
It's a mystery Working for alarge company in the
agricultural space, and there'sa lot of disconnect between
consumers and agriculture.
There's a lot of unknowns.
So we're always encouraged toshare your stories, share your
(52:21):
agriculture story, all thisstuff.
It was 2017.
We had just sold our house andwas living in a rental, shopping
for our next home, and, um, mywife and I were spitballing some
handles and we we came up withbushel billy and I threw, threw
(52:44):
a couple videos out there andand they caught traction and, um
, I immediately networked withfarmers and industry
professionals around the world.
Then the world got shut down.
No one had anything better todo than to stay at home and go
(53:05):
through their phones.
Pardon me, we were stillworking every day.
It was just the right place atthe right time to have some
momentum and to network withsome great people in the
industry.
I've made friends in Australia,brazil, austria, canada and all
(53:27):
across the US, and it's justbeen for me.
It it's just been a fan.
For me, it's always just beenabout networking and a lot like
this podcast is just learningother people's story right and
just how different.
Going from state to state,geography to geography.
This industry is, and so Idon't know that I ever set out
(53:48):
with a goal or a target, or itwas just a very natural
progression of interacting withfolks across the industry,
sharing, sharing insight that Ithought was interesting, that
other people might, might, takealong too, and it just kind of
snowballed from there yeah, andI would encourage everybody to
get on there and and check themout, and check out those videos,
(54:10):
because you know whether you'revideos, because you know
whether you're in agriculture oryou're not.
Speaker 2 (54:15):
If you're in agriculture, there's a lot of
educational things you know thathappened throughout the growing
season.
You know, in our, our neck ofthe woods, we're planting
soybeans and corn and wheat, uh,some alfalfa and and other
things.
You know it's it's kind of aunique perspective from our
geographic area.
But then you know whetheryou're trying to be funny or not
(54:35):
, and I know a lot of times youare.
There's a lot of good comedy inthere.
So I would encourage all of ourlisteners to go check that out.
Speaker 4 (54:43):
I'm going to have to up my game now, you did good
with the intro, yeah you did,yeah, made me want to shut it
off.
Speaker 2 (54:56):
No, I'm just kidding, all right, as we land this
plane.
Last two questions.
If you could have aconversation with someone,
living or deceased, who would itbe and why?
Speaker 4 (55:03):
that's a dumb question.
Thanks, what you're readingthat off of chat GBT?
Maybe Chat GBT what areinterviews?
No, that question's weirdbecause the pressure is oh, it's
got to be somebody that was sobrilliant or influential and you
know you got to make it count.
This is your one job.
(55:23):
That's baloney.
I want to have lunch with.
I want to sit down with andtalk to the people who are where
I want to be, and the reallycool thing about my job my nine
to five is I work with thoseoperators in our industry that
(55:44):
have accomplished what I want toaccomplish three days a week.
I get paid to take those folksout to lunch and pick their
brain and that is prettyfantastic, and so that is what I
enjoy most about my 9 to 5.
It's exciting to me as abusiness owner to sit down and
(56:08):
work and you know there's salesand product support and
education, all that goes with it.
But the my boss thinks I'mbuilding rapport.
I'm not building rapport.
I'm taking notes of how theydid that, right, yeah, how they
got to where they are andeveryone's got such a unique, a
unique approach and a uniquelaunching point and we were in
(56:31):
different positions when thatopportunity broke, when the
opportunity came to them.
At one time, I was working with460 different farmers.
Speaker 1 (56:43):
None of them farmed the same way.
Speaker 4 (56:45):
They all approached the business differently.
Now I work with 35 of the bestoperators in southern Ohio.
I just concentrate on those 35people.
Those are my 20%, that are 80%of my business and you know we
service them.
We give them the support theyneed to be successful and the
products they need to besuccessful and in return, I get
(57:07):
to hang out with them and seehow they do it and that they
don't understand.
They're mentoring me as a smallbusiness operator in that
industry.
But that is really a sweet,sweet kickback from my point of
view.
Speaker 2 (57:24):
That's a great answer .
And you know you talk about.
You know when opportunityknocks and you know most people
you go back to talking aboutthat fear of failure and, um,
you know a lot of times whenopportunity knocks, I think and
maybe I'm wrong, but maybe thedifference between you know
(57:45):
those 400 farmers you used towork with and those 35 you work
with now, or when, whenopportunity knocked for those 35
, they took it.
Yeah, right, no matter what therisk looked like, it was like
okay, yeah, there, there's riskhere, there's risk in everything
, right, but there's risk here.
But boy, the reward on the endcould be huge.
Yes, and, and maybe that's thedifference between those 35 and
(58:07):
those other 400.
Is it that when thatopportunity presented itself,
they took it?
That's a great point.
Speaker 4 (58:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (58:15):
All right.
Last question You're a man offaith and you've.
We talked about goals andaspirations in life.
When things get tough, you knowwhen it's a bad day, or when
you know when you, when you'velost a loved one or business,
has been bad.
It's just been tough.
Is there a Bible verse?
Is there a quote that you leanon?
Speaker 4 (58:43):
There are two, and I'm blanking on the citation for
the second one, but, um, and inmy mind, there are two verses
that illustrate the good and thegood and the bad right.
So, um, philippians, um, Ibelieve the scripture is, for I
(59:06):
know the plans that I've madefor you, plans for success and
not failure.
And then then on, um, it may bejames, um, for the evil, one
stalks the earth thinking ofthings that he can kill, steal
and destroy.
And what I've come to learn isthe most common thing, stolen is
(59:36):
what could have been, is whenopportunity knocks right.
So on this side, as someone offaith, we believe that God has a
plan for us and we'll besuccessful and good and not harm
and all those, if we have thefaith to chase it, if we take
(01:00:00):
the risk, if you go out thereand do it.
And on the other side of thatis a force that's looking to
steal it and that could show upin so many different ways.
It could be self-doubt, itcould be setback, it could be a
neighbor that that lost it alland say geez, and and put the
(01:00:23):
brakes on, but but the goal isto steal what was promised to
you, promise to you.
And so when, when things, whenthings get rough and, um, you
know, there's there's days thatyou feel like king of the world
I finally got this figured outand there's days you just get
the snot whooped out of you andyou're like that can all be in
(01:00:46):
the same day.
Yeah, and it's, it's adifference between noon and the
phone call you get at 1 o'clock,but those two tend to circulate
in the back of my head.
That don't let what waspromised to you be stolen by
fear of moving forward or byfear of failure.
(01:01:08):
We started off the episode ofthat, but the self-doubt and the
obstacles that come your way isall in an effort to steal
prosperity and success from yourhousehold.
I'm confident in chasing thatbecause it was promised to me.
(01:01:30):
It's in the scripture.
It's promised to me if I justgo get it.
Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I think that's great.
I think about that every day.
Like you said, there's dayswhere I feel like man, I must be
the smartest guy in the room,and then it could be 30 minutes
later where it's like you arethe biggest idiot I've ever seen
.
You know, I mean it's, it'samazing, but but I think the
(01:01:56):
critical thing in life and whatI've learned at 47 years old is
that you just keep going right,you just keep taking that step
forward.
It's just like whether you'rein football.
You know we relate everythingto sports, because sports was a
big part of my life, a big partof your life.
And you know the old analogy infootball is you're going to get
(01:02:16):
knocked down, right, but yougot to get back up.
You know you got to get back upand you got to keep going and
you got to take that step everyday.
And, um, you know one thing Ilooked up a couple of quotes.
I was, I did use Chad GTP and Idid because what I, what I typed
in, was when I think of of youand I think back on our
(01:02:39):
experiences as kids growing upand in high school, and then you
going off to college, and youknow I I think of you as a hard
worker, I think of you asenthusiastic, which has come out
today.
Uh, I think of you as you know,whether you do or you don't,
not really caring what otherpeople think about you, you know
you are who you are and you'regoing to be who you're going to
(01:02:59):
be.
I found a quote nobody cares,work harder.
Right, and that's you in anutshell.
Right, nobody cares, workharder.
I don't need your excuses, Idon't need to hear that this
happened or that heart happened.
You know it happens.
It's life.
Keep going.
So that would hit me for you,good or bad, ben.
(01:03:25):
You got anything to to add, mrbushel bill?
Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
Well, obviously the same thing that Dan kind of went
to about the fear of failure.
So, my favorite athlete well,one of my favorite athletes is
Kobe.
That's one of my favorites, andhe has two of them that I was
thinking of because you know Ihave kids in sports and it's
like you know, they're always Idon't want to say scared to push
themselves, but when they getlike like the pressure on them,
(01:03:51):
what can you go back to?
And there's two of them.
One says uh, you know, kobesays my brain it cannot process
failure, it will not processfailure, because if I sit here
or sit there and have to faceand tell myself you're a failure
, I think that's almost worsethan death.
And later on he would talkabout failure and he would say
um, you, you fail.
(01:04:11):
When you lose, what do you feel?
And he said I feel excited,like I just learned something,
and that's the most excitingthing is because I got a chance
to get better.
Then the second one was um, kindof has the same thing.
It says I have self-doubt, Ihave insecurity, I fear failure.
I have nights when I show up atthe arena and I'm like my back
hurts, my feet hurt, my kneeshurt.
I don't have it, I just want tochill.
(01:04:32):
We all have self-doubt.
You don't deny it, but you alsodon't capitulate it.
You embrace it.
I mean that's what his mamamentality type thing is.
That's what I always tell theboys.
And then you talk about the twoverses that you talked about.
It's the same thing that Ialways go to whenever I'm scared
(01:04:52):
to do something.
Right, it's like I'll prayabout it and it's like I still
don't know.
If I still don't know, and it'slike what if I don't do that
Right?
Am I going to let fear takeover my faith?
And it's like if I feel like ifI going at it with faith, I
don't think god's gonna let youfall right on your face with it.
You know what I mean, right?
(01:05:12):
So it's like the big thing thateverybody always talks about
fear, or faith over fear.
Don't let fear overcome yourfaith.
You always got to have yourfaith over the fear.
So that was the two things thatI kind of took away.
Yeah, that's great and we'venever had a better intro that
was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
I knew you'd come out with something, any anything
else good, it's your show bossman, I appreciate you.
I appreciate our friendship.
It's been fun watching your,your kids grow.
It's hard to believe that, uh,they're as old as they are,
because that means we're oldyeah, but you're older.
Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Thank you for that.
I just still don't believe thathe's younger.
You look older than I mean.
Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
I just don't Ew, come on I look older because I have
all the gray hair.
But all his gray hair fell out,but you have hair right.
He's actually got more grayhair than me, it just all fell
out oh.
Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
All right.
So everybody knows where theycan find you at Bushel Billy,
right On Instagram.
Go follow, go watch thosevideos and have a good laugh and
learn some things aboutagriculture.
Appreciate you, man.
Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Yeah, appreciate you coming, appreciate the
opportunity, guys, goodconversation.
Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
Yeah, coming and telling your story.
So everybody go out like share,follow all those good things,
go out and be tempered.
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