September 18, 2025 • 51 mins
What does it take to transform your deepest pain into purpose? Shawn Ruebush knows firsthand. After first sharing his life story on Episode 24 of the BeTempered podcast with hosts Dan Schmidt and Ben Spahr, Shawn took the courageous step of writing his memoir, Turning Pain into Purpose—a raw, unflinching account of tragedy, struggle, and ultimate redemption.
Shawn’s journey began with unimaginable trauma at just eleven years old, an event that forever altered the course of his life. For decades, he wrestled with destructive behaviors while silently carrying the weight of his past. Though he felt a persistent call to share his story, fear kept him silent—until his moment of vulnerability on the podcast became the catalyst for profound change.
The writing process itself became part of Shawn’s healing. With no formal writing background (and even calling himself a “D” student in English), he poured his heart into a manuscript completed in just two months. Financial hurdles nearly stopped the project, but Shawn’s conviction to follow obedience over comfort pushed him forward. “God has given you a gift. Use it,” he reflects, a phrase that captures the essence of his transformation.
Shawn also shared two powerful milestones that shaped his growth: completing the intense 75 Hard challenge and being baptized as an adult. Both represent his deeper commitment to discipline, faith, and authentic living. In a moving moment, his daughter Haven joins the conversation, showing the ripple effect of Shawn’s transformation on his family.
His story echoes a truth from C.S. Lewis: “You can’t go back and change the beginning, but you can start where you are and change the ending.” Shawn proves that our darkest struggles can become our most powerful testimonies when we find the courage to share them.
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Listen now, then grab a copy of Shawn’s book Turning Pain into Purpose: https://books.by/shawnruebush/turning-pain-into-purpuse
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This is Be Tempered.
What's up everybody.
Welcome to the Be Temperedpodcast, episode number 71,.
Dan, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Ben, you're welcome, sir.
Why'd you say it that way?
Just very confident, and thenyou know, just letting everybody
know I know how to do my job.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Sometimes we wanted to bring you back on because, um
, you wrote a book, dude, likeyou, you wrote a book, your life
story.
If you're watching on YouTubeor on Patreon, you can.
You can see a copy of the bookhere.
Uh, kevin's got it up on thescreen.
(01:42):
You can see it, and it's nowavailable for purchase on Amazon
and through Sean's website,which we'll have all linked to
all these episodes and to ourwebsite.
But you know, we wanted tobring you on here one to talk
about that, to talk about whatit was like for you writing the
book.
All those feelings, all thoseemotions.
You know all those things, soyou know getting into it.
(02:06):
I read the book last week, gaveit to me on Sunday.
I went home about two and ahalf hours, got through it.
I couldn't put it down.
It's 140, some pages.
It gets pretty detailed in a lotof your story, things that I
didn't think about, things thatI didn't think about, things
that I didn't understand.
(02:27):
But when you encompass thatwith the total picture of your
story, it makes a lot of thingsmake sense to me and so it's
powerful.
I encourage everyone to go outand get it and to read it.
But what I want to ask you,sean, is I want to you know, we
go back to episode 24, the BeTempered podcast when you came
(02:51):
on here and you shared yourstory for the first time and
essentially your life, right,the full story From that point
to where you are today.
I want you to talk about themanifestation that grew in you
to get to that time and thenwhat it took from that point
(03:11):
until now to actually write thebook.
Talk about that process.
Talk about your mindset, thechallenges, all those things
that you went through.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Wow, that's a long question.
Wow, again, god has put this onme for a long time and I wasn't
(03:42):
being obedient to God.
Like he gave me a story.
He gave me a story to tell, um,and I felt that for a long time
and I wasn't telling it.
And it all goes back to, Ithink, god putting a podcast on
your heart to do.
And that's where, like I saidthat one day you told me on that
football practice field thatyou're doing a podcast, I knew
(04:04):
that was the.
I knew that was the avenue thatI was going to go.
It may have taken me, you know,another 20 weeks to reach out
and do it, but telling the storyon the podcast again, we've
talked.
I've talked about this.
It was that release off of me.
It allowed people to approachme about it, so that was great.
(04:29):
And then the thoughts I'vealways had in my head was
confirmed by you Write it, getit on pages or get it on paper.
So I mean, it's just the processthat I've always had in my mind
(04:50):
.
I just didn't know how to do it.
And then God puts things onpeople's hearts to force you to
do it.
And I mean that Like if you hadasked me two years ago how I
wrote a book, I literally wouldhave bet every penny in my bank
account that I would have neverdone this Ever.
(05:10):
And I still feel like youalready know what I'm going to
say.
You said something soridiculously a week ago that I'm
mad at you for it, Because youput that thought in my head.
Is that something I should do?
But I believe God had a planfor me and his timing's perfect,
(05:34):
and that's what this is about.
It was extremely hard goingback and rereading what I wrote
on paper, but I did it.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
How long did it take you?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Two months, two months, remember.
I've been thinking about thisfor a long time.
I knew the way I wanted it toflow.
I just didn't.
I've never wrote anything, ifyou know me.
I literally got a D in Englishfrom Mrs Freeman's class.
(06:10):
We were not nice to that lady,we were a terrible class.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I wasn't in that class, no, but I know there's a
lot of people who was going tolisten to this and be like, yeah
, we were kind of.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I never paid attention.
In English I still, to this day, anyone that knows me and
writes email, thank gosh forautocorrect, but I don't know, I
can't believe it.
Like staring looking at thisbook.
It's almost surreal.
And like staring looking atthis book, it's almost surreal.
(06:46):
The people that, like Jason, ifJason Koger didn't come on this
podcast, that book may not behere either, Because Jason is
the one who referred Karen tohelp me write it.
I met Karen, I showed her what Ihad and she immediately said
I'm going to help you.
I want to help you.
(07:06):
God's telling me to help you.
Talk about Karen.
Karen's awesome.
She read my.
I sent her what I had in Excelform, sent it to her.
She read it.
She says I don't know how we'regoing to do it, but I'm I'm
going to help you do this,because the money issue was a
huge problem at the beginningfor me.
(07:27):
It cost a lot of money to writea book if you don't know how to
do it and I needed help.
I realized that Karen wasawesome, man, the way the
process worked.
She would read it.
She read it.
She wrote down her notes.
We would do a zoom call.
She'd ask me questions and Imean we just become for that.
(07:54):
I mean it was just greatgetting an outside perspective,
and she's not necessarily a bigfootball fan, Right.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
She loves golf.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
So her reading and understanding the football lingo
was fun for me because she waslike what's a three and out and
I'd have to explain that to her.
What's a punt?
It was just cool just gettingto know somebody and that type
of thing with her.
And yeah, man, it was awesome.
(08:31):
And then she recommended CaseyParker, who owns her own company
that designed the cover.
Working with her was amazing.
She formatted it and I know sheprobably was.
I mean, they all were verygracious of how ignorant I was
on how to write a book.
I would ask them, probably intheir profession, such a basic
(08:53):
question.
They're like this is how you doit.
So, but they were all gracious,they all were awesome, amazing
and it all comes back to theplan that God had.
You know, me knowing I neededto put it on paper.
You doing the podcast, metrusting you, you bringing Jason
on here.
Jason recommended Karen, Karenrecommended Casey, and then this
(09:15):
is where we're at.
It's pretty awesome it'samazing.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know who called me last night Karen.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Jason, jason.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, jason called me .
I told him the book's out, he'sexcited to uh to get a copy.
And uh, he said to tell youhe's proud of you for going
through it and for doing it andfor sharing a story.
And you know, I want to go backyou.
You mentioned the money thingand that reminded me of a
conversation you and I had.
Yep, do you remember thatconversation?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I'll never forget that conversation.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Why don't you talk about it?
And you don't have to put thenumbers out.
I don't really.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
It doesn't matter to me, but uh, it kind of reminds
me a little bit of Brian when hecame on here and God put on his
heart to start that umnonprofit with the horses.
Yeah, I remember Brian sayingand this sums it up like you
can't afford not to do it.
(10:10):
Again, it goes back to me beingobedient to what God called me
to do.
And that's weird for me to say,and it's uncomfortable, but for
40-some years I've ignored it.
It's time to say, and it'suncomfortable, but for 40 some
years I've ignored it.
It's time to stop ignoring itand embrace it and move forward.
(10:32):
But yes, it was.
Karen was so gracious and.
I appreciate her so much forletting me make payments that's
all I'll say.
Because, without her doing thatthis book's not sitting here,
so thank you, Karen.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, thank you, and I asked Dan.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Your response was hilarious.
I asked Dan.
I was like man, is this worthit?
He goes, you're an idiot.
I was like you know how muchmoney I spend on this podcast
just to get people's stories out, and I was like oh, and I just
was like oh, and I just likethat's exactly what I needed to
(11:13):
hear.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
So, yes, I remember it.
Yeah, good, I remember too.
Yeah, you remember you reachingout and saying, hey, it's going
to cost this much.
I'm like so, like so, are youdoing it for money?
You know, is that?
Is that the?
Is that the hangup?
Are you going to listen andmake it work?
And, and you did, and it's, andit's, it's awesome?
What advice would you have forsomebody out there who wants to,
um, to do what you did and puttheir put their story on paper?
(11:37):
How, how would somebody getstarted?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Um, just start writing.
Just start writing.
I didn't.
A lot of times I talked into myphone and then I copied it over
to Word and kind of did it thatway, but just start writing.
I mean again, I know when I sayit only took me about two
(12:02):
months to do, but you got toremember this has been on my
mind for a long time, so I knewexactly what I wanted to say and
how I when I say it only tookme about two months to do, but
you got to remember like thishas been on my mind for a long
time, so I knew exactly what Iwanted to say and how I wanted
to say it and how I wanted tocome across.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Who, would you hope, reads this book?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
A kid who has went through the fire like we talk
about all the time, has wentthrough the fire like we talk
about all the time.
A person who doesn'tnecessarily believe in God,
(12:39):
anybody who's ever been throughany type of tragedy, divorce,
anything.
I keep going back to that John13, 7 that Jason says I never
understood why God put methrough all that.
Now I do, and this is why, thisis the why, and it was worth
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every ounce of pain andeverything it was worth it.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Hey, by the way, the best writing in this book is
from the guy that wrote theforeword.
Do you know what Karen saidabout what you wrote in the
forward?
She said I would not change oneword of that.
So thank you, yeah, um, that,that part gets me a lot.
(13:37):
So thank you for doing that.
Yeah, so funny story is, dan.
When we talked about writing,when I talked about writing this
book, dan goes hey, I want towrite your foreword.
You remember my response?
No, I was like watch that.
I do remember now and I was likeI don't even know what that is,
(13:57):
and you're like, well, it'skind of like the introduction,
and I was like, oh.
And then I went and Googledwhat before?
Just to confirm, just toconfirm, just to confirm, not
that I didn't trust you, but Iwanted to get the full version
of the definition of a forward.
Yeah, so yeah that tells youabout my writing experience.
So if a kid from Preble Countywho got a D in English can write
(14:24):
a book, believe me, anyone canI mean you can.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
What was that teacher's name again?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Miss Freeman.
Shout out, Miss Freeman,because now you have taught
someone English that haspublished a book.
So shout out to you, MissFreeman.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
And I apologize on all of 1996 as graduating class.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
That wasn't our class , we were 97.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Oh, 97.
See, I think, football, holycow man 96.
We were going to ask youhistory class Early onset
dementia.
Sean.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I'm going to read another passage here.
I've highlighted a lot of stuffin this book, but there's a
couple of things that I wantedto read, and you know I started
actually, what I started readingwas from near the end of the
book, and um, you started at theend.
I started at the end and that'swhat I read at the beginning of
the podcast.
Um, because I I think that lastchapter for me like you're, I
(15:22):
know your story right,unbelievable story but I think
that last chapter for me reallycaptured who you are now, who
you're moving to be, and that'swhere I really felt a lot of
things.
But you know, this goes back tothe beginning of the book and
(15:45):
I'm not reading the whole bookhere, I'm just reading parts of
it because I just want to giveeverybody a taste of the feel
for it.
So there might come a moment inyour life when everything you
know is ripped away from you.
You might lose people you love,suffer heartbreak or tragedy
and experience pain that doesn'tseem fair.
You'll ask why?
(16:07):
Me?
You look for answers that don'tcome.
But here's what I've learned bywalking through the fire Pain
isn't the end of your story,it's the beginning of something
greater.
I believe that every struggle,every ounce of suffering is
preparing you for somethingbigger.
You might not see it now, youmight not understand why things
(16:32):
are happening the way they are,but one day it will all make
sense.
John 13, 7 says you don'trealize now what I'm doing, but
later you will understand that'sfrom the introduction.
That's a powerful way to comeout of the gate.
(16:53):
So you know, with the bookyou've been on this growing
process.
Really I know you've been goingthrough it for the past four or
five years, but what I've seen,what we've, where we've came
back into um contact with eachother and and, uh, spending a
lot of time with each othertalking and texting and all
(17:16):
those things I've seentremendous growth from you since
episode 24 to where we aretoday.
And there's a couple thingsthat happen.
One we talked about it on oneof the other episodes where I
challenged you to 75 hard.
You completed that.
I'd like you to talk about that.
(17:37):
And then also you got baptized.
So I want to talk about thosetwo things because, though your
story is 46 years old, you know46 of your you're 46 years old
now.
I think you're just gettingstarted, man.
So talk about you know youfinished the book.
(17:57):
You do 75 hard.
Talk about that, and then talkabout going into being baptized.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Okay, so I wrote my part of the book and, like I
said, I did it in two, two and ahalf months and I did it all in
my spare time, you know, andthe timing was perfect, you know
I wasn't coaching football atthe time.
(18:26):
So I just, you know, I justdove into it, just reckless
abandonment, just dove into itand got it done.
And the funny thing is about Iremember completing it, talking
to Karen, sending her an email,and I remember like, well now,
(18:47):
and I remember that being on aWednesday or a Thursday, and so
I remember I didn't have my kidsthat weekend and it was a
Friday night or something.
And I'm just, you know, I justspent two and a half months
diving into this book and I'mlike, what's next?
Just what's next.
(19:08):
So then I remember getting on avideo game Xbox.
I haven't played video gamesforever and I remember playing,
just wasting time on a videogame, and I played Saturday
Haven had a tournament,volleyball tournament.
That Sunday I sent outsomething to Dan in our group
text about discipline and thenCaptain Bully over here
(19:32):
challenged me to 75 hard thatday.
We all remember the group textand I'm not going to lie.
You already know how I feel,but I wanted to understand the
leadership and how importanthaving good men in your lives
are, because look what I startedto do.
(19:54):
Not by all means video gamesare not terrible, but they do,
in my opinion, waste a lot oftime and I've wasted a lot of
time on them and I love them.
I absolutely love playing videogames, um, but I've wasted
years of my life on them too.
So I started back into that andthen it just goes back to God
(20:20):
putting that on Dan.
To be honest, we've had aconversation about that.
I asked Dan.
I was like, well, like why hegoes?
I just hear this voice orwhatever.
It was just to be honest withme and I'm just going to be hard
on you and be honest, andthat's what I need.
And I remember starting 75 hardangrily.
(20:44):
I was in a volleyball tournamentfor Haven and I remember
reading that, yeah, I forget, Iforget which tournament was, but
it was an indoor, clearly anindoor tournament.
But it was raining outside andI started.
I downloaded the app that dayand the first thing I saw was 45
(21:05):
minute walk in or 40 to 45minute workouts and I'm like I'm
doing one right now in betweena game.
I just hit the clock and juststarted, just started walking
and it was pouring rain outsidethe entire day, so I'm like, all
right read, I did all of it.
The last thing from day one wasthe outdoor.
(21:25):
I had to do an outdoor walk andI didn't get home till eight
o'clock and and it was pouringrain and I went and I walked in
my woods for 45 minutes and itchanged my life.
One 45-minute walk in the rainchanged my life and I got
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addicted to it.
And now I'm coaching football.
When I don't get that time formyself, I can feel myself
drifting.
So I'm with justin.
The water is the worst part ofit.
Um, I hate the water in 75 hard, but you just just do it, man,
(22:13):
so yeah, so that's a long answerfor the 75 hard program that's
good.
That's why I started it wasbecause I was lost.
I didn't know what else was next.
You made me mad and I love whenpeople make me mad because fuel
it's fuel.
I've always used it for fuel.
I've used everything for fuel.
(22:34):
I had a buddy tell me that Iwasn't going to sell any books.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You said a buddy yeah .
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I don't know if he meant it in a hateful way, I
really don't know.
But I had a guy say man, whyare you doing that you ain't
going to sell any books?
All right, watch me.
Oh, say man, why are you doingthat you ain't going to sell any
books?
All right, watch me.
Oh well, they hadn't heard whatI said to them.
I don't think I should repeat.
No, it fired me up.
Yeah, yeah Again, it's what Ineeded.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
So, yeah, and here's what I'll tell you I despise
video games and I played them incollege, I played them in high
school and they're fun.
I mean, my kids play some but Idespise them.
And that was the trigger whenwhen I don't know if you said
something or something came upabout video games and I was like
(23:26):
, dude, how are you going totalk about discipline, how are
you going to coach high schoolkids, push discipline on them,
and you're going to sit in frontof your TV for however many
hours and play video games?
That was the trigger for me.
And I and I just heard a voicejust say let him have it.
Let him have it.
(23:46):
And I'm going to be honest withyou, sean, I hear that a lot.
I hear that voice in my head alot about you.
Let him have it, he can take it.
That's what he needs, that'swhat pushes him, that's what
drives him, that's whatmotivates him, that's what makes
him do what he needs to bedoing.
So I don't know why that I hearthat about you, but I do.
(24:09):
I don't hear it about manypeople, um, because I don't
think many people could take itand the old Sean would have
punched me in the mouth.
But there's, there's a newsheriff in town.
So, um, I I'm glad that youwent through 75 hard and it it's
an.
It's an amazing program.
A mental toughness program.
It's not, you know it.
It does become a physical thing, right?
(24:31):
I mean, you're sore, you'rehurting.
Two workouts a day suck, it'severything that you would think
as far as difficulty goes.
But what comes from it on thebackside, the mental aspect of
it, it's the reason that we'resitting here.
It's the reason that you'resitting here.
(24:51):
It's the reason you are part ofour team at Catrons.
I mean 100%.
My life changed three years agowhen Jeff Swanson introduced 75
Hard to me.
That's when my life changed,Not when I started it, when I
completed it.
When I started it, when Icompleted it and uh, anybody out
there who's, you know, stuck ina rut.
(25:14):
This is your way out.
It's not easy, but it but it'syour way out.
So you know, with all thatbeing said, you complete 75 hard
and you and I can tell, I knowthat you did it right because
you've already made the commentthat you can feel yourself
slipping back into.
You know certain routines thatyou don't like and you recognize
(25:37):
that, but I know what's goingto happen.
You know when, when you get,when football is done, when
you're done coaching here thisseason, you're going to hop back
on the wagon and you're goingto.
You're going to do it again howdo you know that?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
because I literally thought that Because if not
you're going to get a text oneday and it's going to be like
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
And I'm going to come over and I'm going to Wait.
You started phase two you dork.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
That's not as good a sound like there's going to be a
voice in that head of his.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Need to tell Sean.
All right, so from that acouple of weeks ago maybe a
month ago now, I don't rememberhow long ago it was, but you
sent a text to us, to Ben and I,that you were getting baptized.
Talk about that.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
What led to that?
Well, I was baptized when I wasseven or eight years old, but
it didn't mean anything to mewhen I was seven or eight years
old, but it didn't mean anythingto me.
So ever since I've beendivorced, I've just wanted to do
this and I've put it off for solong.
(26:46):
And I've asked a few peoplethis, that and the other about
hey, you know, I want to getbaptized.
But here's the thing about me.
I don't.
Here's what I told them.
I don't want to do it in frontof people, like like that.
That was my thought process,like I just want to be quiet
over here in the corner bymyself.
God said nope, so that's whyall those plans fell through.
(27:11):
So I believe I mean I don'tknow how many people were there-
there's a lot.
There's a lot of people there.
Again, it's about beingobedient and Pastor Eric at
Church of Faith here in Richmond.
They talked about a baptism.
I skipped the first one.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Why I don the first?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
one, why?
I don't know why, I honestlydon't know why Were you afraid?
I don't know I wasn't afraid, Idon't know why.
I just maybe I wasn't readymentally.
I don't know why.
I just maybe I wasn't readymentally.
(27:53):
I don't know why.
But I just remember, you know,sitting in church and they were
talking about, hey, we're havinga baptism this week, and I
remember, like I need to do that, and then my flesh said nope,
and so I didn't.
And then, you know, I just keptgoing to church, kept going to
(28:14):
church and then Eric was likewe're having a baptism in New
Paris, at a.
Why can I not think?
of that Today's Harvest, today'sHarvest, and I'm like okay.
And then I asked my family, Iasked Chase Haven Hunter and, uh
(28:35):
, so we do it.
I decided on a Tuesday to do itand, um, I talked to pastor
Eric, who calls which I thinkthis is amazing, but he calls
everybody that's gettingbaptized and just kind of knows
their story.
And I told him my story and hewas what everybody that hears my
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story.
I gave him the quick 20 minuteversion and he was like I don't
think it surprised him, but itkind of did.
And he just poured into me for20 minutes.
Man.
Just poured into me for 20minutes, man.
(29:20):
And, uh, he, he asked me why,what Jesus was to me, and I said
he saved my life, he saved allof our lives.
So, and I talked about that,which I don't think I can talk
about that right now, I just I,I would lose everything, the
podcast would end, um.
But he reassured me, he told mewhat it meant, he asked all the
(29:46):
right questions, he made itfeel comfortable and he, and he
told me he's like Sean, your oldSean is dead.
The new Sean is a tool for God.
He's going to use you as a tooland just let him and I said
okay, it's about being obedient,so why did I choose that time?
(30:09):
It's time.
It's time for me to be bold inmy faith, and I've hidden from.
I've hidden from that for solong.
That's the truth.
I hear.
(30:31):
You have voices in your head,we all do.
All I hear is be obedient, andthat's what I'm going to do.
And what I find absolutelyphenomenal and heartwarming is
the people that showed up forthe baptism.
I never expected it.
(30:52):
And heartwarming is the peoplethat showed up for the baptism.
I never expected it.
I actually got three or fourtexts from angry friends that I
didn't tell them.
When I posted that on Facebook,they were like why didn't you
tell me how to come?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I'm like who does that?
Speaker 5 (31:04):
I'm not going to promote my own baptism.
I told you guys because I meanyou're my close friends, you're
the only two people I told.
Well, justin, I told Justin andhis dad and mom showed up,
which was extremely heartwarming.
Joe Swartzel is a true man ofGod that I love to death.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Do you remember what he told you after you were
baptized?
He gave you a hug.
You remember what he said?
He said baptized.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
He gave you a hug.
Do you remember what he said?
He said the devil's going tocome for me.
The devil can't touch me.
Yeah, he can't put me throughanymore.
And I say that, but like I'vebeen through, it.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
What did you feel when you were baptized, when the
water was rushing across yourhead?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
What did you feel?
A warmth.
Everybody said the water wascold.
I felt this warmth come over me.
Peace I felt peace.
And what was special about thebaptism is I went first and my
(32:29):
son went second.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
It's powerful.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
It's awesome.
Someone else is going to getbaptized soon.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
She just didn't want to do it in front of people
either but, I understand, Iunderstand it's a big, it's a
big step, but and you know, thefirst time you I mean, and
honestly, it's that voice thatyou said you heard, that voice
that keeps saying be obedient,be obedient, be obedient.
I mean, there's also that othervoice that's in all of us that
tries to get us not to do thingslike that.
(33:00):
You know, and that's what wecould battle every single day.
But when you get baptized, man,it's just something completely
different.
And then you talk about thefriends and family that want to
come support you in the baptism.
It's because they've probablybeen baptized and they know what
it feels like and they know thenew Sean.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
That was the biggest surprise to me, like I never, I
mean, and there was a lot ofpeople there that came up and
gave me hugs.
I mean, my neighbor, chris, isamazing.
Jason, a guy that used to workfor me when I was at Love's, was
there.
And Jason, a guy that used towork for me when I was at Love's
, was there.
I've never experienced lovelike that and that's why it's
(33:41):
emotional, that's why it'sheartwarming, that's why it's
overwhelming for a person likeme.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Because I'm not used to that.
You didn't have that growing up.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
But you got it.
Now I've had it the whole timeI just didn't realize it.
Everybody does.
It's just you don't realize howmuch God loves you and Jesus
loves you until you understandwhat Jesus did on that cross for
all of us.
Once you understand that it'seasy to receive love and give a
(34:22):
love because you look at ourlives and how comfortable we are
and what that man went throughand it's.
And what that man went throughand it's.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah, hey, Haven, Can you step up to the mic back
there?
So we've got Sean's daughterHaven here.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
And we'll adjust the mic.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
She's got her dad's height.
Hey, she's going to be waytaller than me, probably,
hopefully.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Haven.
What do you think?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You can't give the typical kid answer.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Let me ask you this Wait, that was three words,
though.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
That was.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
We're improving here.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
IDNK, I'm surprised you didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
All right, here's a better question what does your
dad mean to you?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Everything.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Why is that?
What do you see in your dadthat other people might not see
yet?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Goofiness and kindness.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
You're a mean person, man.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Your dad's a special man.
I think you know that, yourecognize that, and he, you know
he's been through a lot.
I know you guys have beenthrough a lot, but he's a
special man.
If you could, if you could tellhim one thing right now, what
would you tell him?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
That I love him.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's awesome what do you?
Think.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
I love her too.
I love all my children.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
It's pretty awesome.
It's so amazing for me to watchthis transformation because
I've known you since you were akid.
We competed on the fieldtogether on the diamond on the
basketball court.
You know, I remember you beingin the hospital after your
accident.
(36:41):
I remember seeing you doingsome crazy things.
I remember seeing you knocksome people out I mean, there
was, you know.
But it's unbelievable for me tosee the transformation, to see
the transformation, knowing allthat you've been through.
And, dude, you wrote a book.
(37:04):
Sean Rubish wrote a book.
It's amazing.
It continues to add to yourstory of it doesn't matter what
you've been through, how dark orhow deep it was in your life,
that you can do anything, and Ihope that's what people gain
from your story.
I know it is.
I, I've I've heard it enough,uh, from other people who have,
(37:25):
who've listened to the podcastand and I you're going to be
overwhelmed with people thatread the book and I'm going to
end this with one last readingthat you know you've got some
good quotes in here.
I've got to find it.
That you know you put at thetop of each chapter and I think
(37:48):
this summarizes you.
It's from CS Lewis.
It says you can't go back andchange the beginning, but you
can start where you are andchange the end.
You started where you're at.
You can't change what happened,right.
(38:11):
You can't change all the thingsyou went through as an
11-year-old boy, the challengesyou went through on your various
jobs and alcohol, and just allthe things you've been through
in your life.
You can't change that and youdon't want to change that.
But you can start where you'reat and you can change that.
But you can start where you'reat and you can change that
ending and I think thatsummarizes this book.
(38:32):
It summarizes your life and I'mextremely excited to see where
we go from here.
For sure you got anything toadd.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah, quick question.
So you talk about when youfirst, you know, when we first
had you on the podcast and youtold your story and you talked
about how you knew that when danstarted the podcast and he
asked you that this was going tobe the time right, was it the
vulnerability of dan telling hisstory that made you feel like
this was the platform to do it,or what?
(39:07):
What was that feeling?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
that gave you like this?
Is it like you knew it?
Or what was that feeling thatgave you like this?
Is it?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Like you knew that you had it all in you.
You knew you wanted to tell it.
What gave you that confidenceto come on here and tell it
Trust.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Trust and Dan.
It all goes back to and this iswhy football is important for
the youth Like when you gothrough football and you go
through all of that stuff withindividuals, there's a bond that
will never be taken away fromyou.
There's a he.
He was my offensive, he was youplayed left tackle, left guard.
(39:41):
One of those I don't knowthat's for right guard, right
guard really, really impacted.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
you Couldn't pay him on the blind side.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
Yeah, I know, no kidding, I was your right guard.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Makes sense.
But that's why Because I've youknow trust was the biggest
thing, like when we went throughthat bond in football two days.
You know the six years we spenttogether.
Like that means something.
And I've always looked up toyou, dan, you know with your
(40:18):
business and how you conductyourself and you know your
everyday life and your familyand your dad is an amazing
person, your brother's great Ijust it came down to respect and
trust and I trusted that youwould handle my story the right
(40:40):
way, you would do it the rightway and that's, I think that was
the biggest hurdle of like I'mnot the guy this is going to
sound weird, but I'm not the guythat'll go online and just
promote me Like that's.
I mean anyone who ever looks atmy Facebook.
I was one of those guys thatwould just scroll through and
(41:02):
never post ever, because thatwas super uncomfortable for me.
Because that was superuncomfortable for me.
So trusting you with my storywas 100% the factor of like this
is it.
And when I heard you say that,I mean there's all kinds of
voices in my head like yes, thisis it.
(41:25):
But then again I still still.
Look how long it took meanother, I think you told me on
your sixth episode, I think,because I went back and I looked
that day I was like there wassix, one, six, and then I looked
at the first one I was likemaybe this isn't the avenue.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
That's pretty bad, I agree.
Hey, everybody's got to startsomewhere.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
God loves the humble beginnings, right.
So I mean that's why it wasTrust.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
I just when you go back to the beginning of, like
your first time telling it, andthen we do this, you know the
second, and then we do the live,like if you go back and you
have time to listen to all those, you can see the faith journey
happening in those podcasts andto see where you're at right now
.
Man, it just it's awesome.
I'm so proud of you and I youknow and that's what Dan talks
(42:32):
about the transformation that hewas blessed enough to see,
right Like since you guys werelittle, have that brotherhood
with you and I'm just luckyenough to be able to see you
tell your story and then seealmost like the peace that's
come over you and then just youkilling it in life.
Man, I mean it's awesome.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
And then just you killing it in life, man, I mean
it's awesome.
I think me telling my storyaccelerated it, yeah For sure.
And also just I mean go backand look at the first episode
compared to the second episode,to probably this episode with my
(43:07):
weight.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Yeah Well that's what I was about to say.
You can't tell that you're infootball season and not hitting
the two workouts a day.
Thank you, You're looking goodbrother.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Thank you, I've lost.
I was always on a healthjourney before I started 75 hard
.
Well, somewhat.
I started back in mid-Januaryjust trying to start eating
healthy, but once again I got upto 200 pounds.
I'm 5'7".
Speaker 3 (43:35):
What are you?
4'2", 4'2" or sorry?
Speaker 5 (43:38):
5' See everybody.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
He's a bully.
I'm just messing.
I know you are Go out and betempered.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
But I was mid-January .
I was almost 200 pounds, I'm160 now.
I lost about 10 pounds before Istarted 75 hard and 75 hard
just accelerated it and itbrought me to fasting a little
bit.
I did a three-day fast in themiddle of 75 hard.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Three days.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Yeah, tried it again about two weeks ago and I made
it 41 hours and I about died.
I literally, literally walkedout of the meeting.
I got up, walked out of themeeting and said I, I got to go
and I had literally went acrossthe gas station and just shoved
a bunch of sugar, jug food andjunk food in my mouth.
I I don't know why that firstthree day, the first time I did
(44:34):
it, once I got past the hungerpart, I was working out.
Maybe that's the difference.
I haven't been able to work outwhen I was with football, yeah,
but I felt great at the end ofthree days.
I literally felt amazing and Iknow this sounds weird, but the
longer I went, the more energy Ihad to like I had energy out
(44:56):
there.
I was just full of energy, veryproductive, and I was doing the
two workouts.
They were awesome and I waslifting more weight than ever
and I was lifting more weightthan ever and my workouts went
from 45 minutes to like I couldeasily go an hour and 15 without
(45:18):
batting an eye.
And then, but yeah, I mean, Ithink the difference when I
tried to three-day fast thistime is I wasn't doing the
workouts and the hunger, justgot me.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah Well, and you're just in a different mental
state when you're in the program.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
You are a hundred percent, you're locked in.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Um.
So any anything you want toclose with that, you want to
leave our listeners that wedidn't talk about.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
Uh, just for the longest time, man, I've chase.
Chase your purpose, man, like Ithink God has given everybody a
gift and.
I think so.
(46:04):
When I was doing 75 hard, Ilistened to David Goggins a lot.
So when I was doing 75 Hard, Ilistened to David Goggins a lot
and the story he tells about andthis hit me like a ton of
bricks.
He tells a story I think it wasJoe Rogan where he's like watch
, your biggest fear and hisbiggest fear was when David
(46:29):
Goggins goes to heaven.
There's a big board up thereand he's, you know, god's in
front of him and Jesus and allthat.
And it says you know, navy SEALchanged millions of people's
lives and this, that and theother.
And David Goggins was like, well, I think I told it wrong, but
that expectation that God hasfor you in the life, that like
if I got up there and it saysyou know whatever it says about
(46:54):
me and I didn't live up to that,like that's David Goggins'
biggest fear and that's the wayI feel, like and that's why I
keep talking about God, put thison me for a reason.
And if I don't be obedient andtell my story, like when I meet
him, like what does that sayabout Sean Rubish?
(47:16):
What does that say about Ben?
What does that say about Dan?
And are you meeting God'sexpectation for your life?
Are you using his gifts that hegave?
Speaker 4 (47:26):
you?
Do we live up to our potentialof what he saw for us?
Speaker 5 (47:33):
And again, the closer you get to God, the harder it
becomes, in my opinion.
Oh yeah, Because you alwaystalk about the imposter syndrome
like 100%, like I struggle somedays.
Everybody does, I think.
(47:54):
But you just got to keep movingforward.
God has given you a gift.
Use it.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
That's great.
The obedience thing I think weall struggle with too.
What I always tell myself is ifI'm trying to be obedient with
God and I believe the HolySpirit is telling me something
and I do it, I might miss.
I don't think the God I serveis one that's going to be like
yeah, Ben, you screwed it up.
Like now you're going to dealwith the consequences.
Like I feel like if you'rebeing obedient to God and you're
(48:25):
doing the right thing, I thinkGod's going to take care of you
and if you're off the path, he'sgoing to put you right back on
the path.
But I believe that's a God weserve.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
I agree, and you may not know what that next step is,
but just keep walking forwardand it'll be.
It'll open up.
It will open up.
I don't know what's next.
Well, I may have a feelingwhat's next, but I don't know
how that's going to work out.
(48:54):
I don't know what that lookslike, but I'm going to keep
walking forward and I'm going tostart being more obedient and I
, I put my, I put my trust inGod, I put my trust in God, amen
, amen, all right, everybody,turning pain into purpose.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
We'll have links to the show.
You can see it on the screenright now if you're on YouTube
or on Patreon.
There's a couple of differentways to get it, through Amazon
or Sean's website as well.
But buy this book.
Buy it for yourself, buy it forsomeone else who needs to hear
it, buy it for that kid outthere who you know struggling
that needs to, to see that, nomatter what happens in your life
(49:37):
, that you will get through it,it will get better.
You just got to keep takingthat step.
Also, if there's any businessesout there, if there's any uh,
church groups, anybody out therelooking for a speaker Sean did
not give me permission to saythis, but I'm going to say it
anyways because I'm a bully Seanis available to come and share
(49:59):
his story and, beyond his story,the lessons that he's learned
in life about how to persevere,how to get through it, how to
have faith.
And he's he's he's just startingthat journey.
But if you're looking forsomebody to come and motivate,
to come and inspire, to come andhelp that one person, sean's
(50:20):
your man, so you can.
You can reach Sean.
He's on all social mediaplatforms.
Well, again, we'll haveeverything linked to this
episode.
You can reach out to me or toBen or to the Be Tempered
website.
We'll have everything on thereas well.
But support him, continue tosupport the show like you do.
We appreciate all that stuff.
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What's up everybody.
Welcome to the Be Temperedpodcast, episode number 71,.
Dan, thank you.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
Ben, you're welcome, sir.
Why'd you say it that way?
Just very confident, and thenyou know, just letting everybody
know I know how to do my job.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Sometimes we wanted to bring you back on because, um
, you wrote a book, dude, likeyou, you wrote a book, your life
story.
If you're watching on YouTubeor on Patreon, you can.
You can see a copy of the bookhere.
Uh, kevin's got it up on thescreen.
(01:42):
You can see it, and it's nowavailable for purchase on Amazon
and through Sean's website,which we'll have all linked to
all these episodes and to ourwebsite.
But you know, we wanted tobring you on here one to talk
about that, to talk about whatit was like for you writing the
book.
All those feelings, all thoseemotions.
You know all those things, soyou know getting into it.
(02:06):
I read the book last week, gaveit to me on Sunday.
I went home about two and ahalf hours, got through it.
I couldn't put it down.
It's 140, some pages.
It gets pretty detailed in a lotof your story, things that I
didn't think about, things thatI didn't think about, things
that I didn't understand.
(02:27):
But when you encompass thatwith the total picture of your
story, it makes a lot of thingsmake sense to me and so it's
powerful.
I encourage everyone to go outand get it and to read it.
But what I want to ask you,sean, is I want to you know, we
go back to episode 24, the BeTempered podcast when you came
(02:51):
on here and you shared yourstory for the first time and
essentially your life, right,the full story From that point
to where you are today.
I want you to talk about themanifestation that grew in you
to get to that time and thenwhat it took from that point
(03:11):
until now to actually write thebook.
Talk about that process.
Talk about your mindset, thechallenges, all those things
that you went through.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Wow, that's a long question.
Wow, again, god has put this onme for a long time and I wasn't
(03:42):
being obedient to God.
Like he gave me a story.
He gave me a story to tell, um,and I felt that for a long time
and I wasn't telling it.
And it all goes back to, Ithink, god putting a podcast on
your heart to do.
And that's where, like I saidthat one day you told me on that
football practice field thatyou're doing a podcast, I knew
(04:04):
that was the.
I knew that was the avenue thatI was going to go.
It may have taken me, you know,another 20 weeks to reach out
and do it, but telling the storyon the podcast again, we've
talked.
I've talked about this.
It was that release off of me.
It allowed people to approachme about it, so that was great.
(04:29):
And then the thoughts I'vealways had in my head was
confirmed by you Write it, getit on pages or get it on paper.
So I mean, it's just the processthat I've always had in my mind
(04:50):
.
I just didn't know how to do it.
And then God puts things onpeople's hearts to force you to
do it.
And I mean that Like if you hadasked me two years ago how I
wrote a book, I literally wouldhave bet every penny in my bank
account that I would have neverdone this Ever.
(05:10):
And I still feel like youalready know what I'm going to
say.
You said something soridiculously a week ago that I'm
mad at you for it, Because youput that thought in my head.
Is that something I should do?
But I believe God had a planfor me and his timing's perfect,
(05:34):
and that's what this is about.
It was extremely hard goingback and rereading what I wrote
on paper, but I did it.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
How long did it take you?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Two months, two months, remember.
I've been thinking about thisfor a long time.
I knew the way I wanted it toflow.
I just didn't.
I've never wrote anything, ifyou know me.
I literally got a D in Englishfrom Mrs Freeman's class.
(06:10):
We were not nice to that lady,we were a terrible class.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I wasn't in that class, no, but I know there's a
lot of people who was going tolisten to this and be like, yeah
, we were kind of.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
I never paid attention.
In English I still, to this day, anyone that knows me and
writes email, thank gosh forautocorrect, but I don't know, I
can't believe it.
Like staring looking at thisbook.
It's almost surreal.
And like staring looking atthis book, it's almost surreal.
(06:46):
The people that, like Jason, ifJason Koger didn't come on this
podcast, that book may not behere either, Because Jason is
the one who referred Karen tohelp me write it.
I met Karen, I showed her what Ihad and she immediately said
I'm going to help you.
I want to help you.
(07:06):
God's telling me to help you.
Talk about Karen.
Karen's awesome.
She read my.
I sent her what I had in Excelform, sent it to her.
She read it.
She says I don't know how we'regoing to do it, but I'm I'm
going to help you do this,because the money issue was a
huge problem at the beginningfor me.
(07:27):
It cost a lot of money to writea book if you don't know how to
do it and I needed help.
I realized that Karen wasawesome, man, the way the
process worked.
She would read it.
She read it.
She wrote down her notes.
We would do a zoom call.
She'd ask me questions and Imean we just become for that.
(07:54):
I mean it was just greatgetting an outside perspective,
and she's not necessarily a bigfootball fan, Right.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
She loves golf.
Speaker 5 (08:11):
So her reading and understanding the football lingo
was fun for me because she waslike what's a three and out and
I'd have to explain that to her.
What's a punt?
It was just cool just gettingto know somebody and that type
of thing with her.
And yeah, man, it was awesome.
(08:31):
And then she recommended CaseyParker, who owns her own company
that designed the cover.
Working with her was amazing.
She formatted it and I know sheprobably was.
I mean, they all were verygracious of how ignorant I was
on how to write a book.
I would ask them, probably intheir profession, such a basic
(08:53):
question.
They're like this is how you doit.
So, but they were all gracious,they all were awesome, amazing
and it all comes back to theplan that God had.
You know, me knowing I neededto put it on paper.
You doing the podcast, metrusting you, you bringing Jason
on here.
Jason recommended Karen, Karenrecommended Casey, and then this
(09:15):
is where we're at.
It's pretty awesome it'samazing.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
You know who called me last night Karen.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Jason, jason.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, jason called me .
I told him the book's out, he'sexcited to uh to get a copy.
And uh, he said to tell youhe's proud of you for going
through it and for doing it andfor sharing a story.
And you know, I want to go backyou.
You mentioned the money thingand that reminded me of a
conversation you and I had.
Yep, do you remember thatconversation?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I'll never forget that conversation.
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Why don't you talk about it?
And you don't have to put thenumbers out.
I don't really.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
It doesn't matter to me, but uh, it kind of reminds
me a little bit of Brian when hecame on here and God put on his
heart to start that umnonprofit with the horses.
Yeah, I remember Brian sayingand this sums it up like you
can't afford not to do it.
(10:10):
Again, it goes back to me beingobedient to what God called me
to do.
And that's weird for me to say,and it's uncomfortable, but for
40-some years I've ignored it.
It's time to say, and it'suncomfortable, but for 40 some
years I've ignored it.
It's time to stop ignoring itand embrace it and move forward.
(10:32):
But yes, it was.
Karen was so gracious and.
I appreciate her so much forletting me make payments that's
all I'll say.
Because, without her doing thatthis book's not sitting here,
so thank you, Karen.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, thank you, and I asked Dan.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Your response was hilarious.
I asked Dan.
I was like man, is this worthit?
He goes, you're an idiot.
I was like you know how muchmoney I spend on this podcast
just to get people's stories out, and I was like oh, and I just
was like oh, and I just likethat's exactly what I needed to
(11:13):
hear.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
So, yes, I remember it.
Yeah, good, I remember too.
Yeah, you remember you reachingout and saying, hey, it's going
to cost this much.
I'm like so, like so, are youdoing it for money?
You know, is that?
Is that the?
Is that the hangup?
Are you going to listen andmake it work?
And, and you did, and it's, andit's, it's awesome?
What advice would you have forsomebody out there who wants to,
um, to do what you did and puttheir put their story on paper?
(11:37):
How, how would somebody getstarted?
Speaker 5 (11:41):
Um, just start writing.
Just start writing.
I didn't.
A lot of times I talked into myphone and then I copied it over
to Word and kind of did it thatway, but just start writing.
I mean again, I know when I sayit only took me about two
(12:02):
months to do, but you got toremember this has been on my
mind for a long time, so I knewexactly what I wanted to say and
how I when I say it only tookme about two months to do, but
you got to remember like thishas been on my mind for a long
time, so I knew exactly what Iwanted to say and how I wanted
to say it and how I wanted tocome across.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Who, would you hope, reads this book?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
A kid who has went through the fire like we talk
about all the time, has wentthrough the fire like we talk
about all the time.
A person who doesn'tnecessarily believe in God,
(12:39):
anybody who's ever been throughany type of tragedy, divorce,
anything.
I keep going back to that John13, 7 that Jason says I never
understood why God put methrough all that.
Now I do, and this is why, thisis the why, and it was worth
(13:03):
every ounce of pain andeverything it was worth it.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
That's awesome.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Hey, by the way, the best writing in this book is
from the guy that wrote theforeword.
Do you know what Karen saidabout what you wrote in the
forward?
She said I would not change oneword of that.
So thank you, yeah, um, that,that part gets me a lot.
(13:37):
So thank you for doing that.
Yeah, so funny story is, dan.
When we talked about writing,when I talked about writing this
book, dan goes hey, I want towrite your foreword.
You remember my response?
No, I was like watch that.
I do remember now and I was likeI don't even know what that is,
(13:57):
and you're like, well, it'skind of like the introduction,
and I was like, oh.
And then I went and Googledwhat before?
Just to confirm, just toconfirm, just to confirm, not
that I didn't trust you, but Iwanted to get the full version
of the definition of a forward.
Yeah, so yeah that tells youabout my writing experience.
So if a kid from Preble Countywho got a D in English can write
(14:24):
a book, believe me, anyone canI mean you can.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
What was that teacher's name again?
Speaker 5 (14:33):
I don't even know.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Miss Freeman.
Shout out, Miss Freeman,because now you have taught
someone English that haspublished a book.
So shout out to you, MissFreeman.
Speaker 5 (14:46):
And I apologize on all of 1996 as graduating class.
Speaker 3 (14:49):
That wasn't our class , we were 97.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Oh, 97.
See, I think, football, holycow man 96.
We were going to ask youhistory class Early onset
dementia.
Sean.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I'm going to read another passage here.
I've highlighted a lot of stuffin this book, but there's a
couple of things that I wantedto read, and you know I started
actually, what I started readingwas from near the end of the
book, and um, you started at theend.
I started at the end and that'swhat I read at the beginning of
the podcast.
Um, because I I think that lastchapter for me like you're, I
(15:22):
know your story right,unbelievable story but I think
that last chapter for me reallycaptured who you are now, who
you're moving to be, and that'swhere I really felt a lot of
things.
But you know, this goes back tothe beginning of the book and
(15:45):
I'm not reading the whole bookhere, I'm just reading parts of
it because I just want to giveeverybody a taste of the feel
for it.
So there might come a moment inyour life when everything you
know is ripped away from you.
You might lose people you love,suffer heartbreak or tragedy
and experience pain that doesn'tseem fair.
You'll ask why?
(16:07):
Me?
You look for answers that don'tcome.
But here's what I've learned bywalking through the fire Pain
isn't the end of your story,it's the beginning of something
greater.
I believe that every struggle,every ounce of suffering is
preparing you for somethingbigger.
You might not see it now, youmight not understand why things
(16:32):
are happening the way they are,but one day it will all make
sense.
John 13, 7 says you don'trealize now what I'm doing, but
later you will understand that'sfrom the introduction.
That's a powerful way to comeout of the gate.
(16:53):
So you know, with the bookyou've been on this growing
process.
Really I know you've been goingthrough it for the past four or
five years, but what I've seen,what we've, where we've came
back into um contact with eachother and and, uh, spending a
lot of time with each othertalking and texting and all
(17:16):
those things I've seentremendous growth from you since
episode 24 to where we aretoday.
And there's a couple thingsthat happen.
One we talked about it on oneof the other episodes where I
challenged you to 75 hard.
You completed that.
I'd like you to talk about that.
(17:37):
And then also you got baptized.
So I want to talk about thosetwo things because, though your
story is 46 years old, you know46 of your you're 46 years old
now.
I think you're just gettingstarted, man.
So talk about you know youfinished the book.
(17:57):
You do 75 hard.
Talk about that, and then talkabout going into being baptized.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
Okay, so I wrote my part of the book and, like I
said, I did it in two, two and ahalf months and I did it all in
my spare time, you know, andthe timing was perfect, you know
I wasn't coaching football atthe time.
(18:26):
So I just, you know, I justdove into it, just reckless
abandonment, just dove into itand got it done.
And the funny thing is about Iremember completing it, talking
to Karen, sending her an email,and I remember like, well now,
(18:47):
and I remember that being on aWednesday or a Thursday, and so
I remember I didn't have my kidsthat weekend and it was a
Friday night or something.
And I'm just, you know, I justspent two and a half months
diving into this book and I'mlike, what's next?
Just what's next.
(19:08):
So then I remember getting on avideo game Xbox.
I haven't played video gamesforever and I remember playing,
just wasting time on a videogame, and I played Saturday
Haven had a tournament,volleyball tournament.
That Sunday I sent outsomething to Dan in our group
text about discipline and thenCaptain Bully over here
(19:32):
challenged me to 75 hard thatday.
We all remember the group textand I'm not going to lie.
You already know how I feel,but I wanted to understand the
leadership and how importanthaving good men in your lives
are, because look what I startedto do.
(19:54):
Not by all means video gamesare not terrible, but they do,
in my opinion, waste a lot oftime and I've wasted a lot of
time on them and I love them.
I absolutely love playing videogames, um, but I've wasted
years of my life on them too.
So I started back into that andthen it just goes back to God
(20:20):
putting that on Dan.
To be honest, we've had aconversation about that.
I asked Dan.
I was like, well, like why hegoes?
I just hear this voice orwhatever.
It was just to be honest withme and I'm just going to be hard
on you and be honest, andthat's what I need.
And I remember starting 75 hardangrily.
(20:44):
I was in a volleyball tournamentfor Haven and I remember
reading that, yeah, I forget, Iforget which tournament was, but
it was an indoor, clearly anindoor tournament.
But it was raining outside andI started.
I downloaded the app that dayand the first thing I saw was 45
(21:05):
minute walk in or 40 to 45minute workouts and I'm like I'm
doing one right now in betweena game.
I just hit the clock and juststarted, just started walking
and it was pouring rain outsidethe entire day, so I'm like, all
right read, I did all of it.
The last thing from day one wasthe outdoor.
(21:25):
I had to do an outdoor walk andI didn't get home till eight
o'clock and and it was pouringrain and I went and I walked in
my woods for 45 minutes and itchanged my life.
One 45-minute walk in the rainchanged my life and I got
(21:47):
addicted to it.
And now I'm coaching football.
When I don't get that time formyself, I can feel myself
drifting.
So I'm with justin.
The water is the worst part ofit.
Um, I hate the water in 75 hard, but you just just do it, man,
(22:13):
so yeah, so that's a long answerfor the 75 hard program that's
good.
That's why I started it wasbecause I was lost.
I didn't know what else was next.
You made me mad and I love whenpeople make me mad because fuel
it's fuel.
I've always used it for fuel.
I've used everything for fuel.
(22:34):
I had a buddy tell me that Iwasn't going to sell any books.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
You said a buddy yeah .
Speaker 5 (22:43):
I don't know if he meant it in a hateful way, I
really don't know.
But I had a guy say man, whyare you doing that you ain't
going to sell any books?
All right, watch me.
Oh, say man, why are you doingthat you ain't going to sell any
books?
All right, watch me.
Oh well, they hadn't heard whatI said to them.
I don't think I should repeat.
No, it fired me up.
Yeah, yeah Again, it's what Ineeded.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
So, yeah, and here's what I'll tell you I despise
video games and I played them incollege, I played them in high
school and they're fun.
I mean, my kids play some but Idespise them.
And that was the trigger whenwhen I don't know if you said
something or something came upabout video games and I was like
(23:26):
, dude, how are you going totalk about discipline, how are
you going to coach high schoolkids, push discipline on them,
and you're going to sit in frontof your TV for however many
hours and play video games?
That was the trigger for me.
And I and I just heard a voicejust say let him have it.
Let him have it.
(23:46):
And I'm going to be honest withyou, sean, I hear that a lot.
I hear that voice in my head alot about you.
Let him have it, he can take it.
That's what he needs, that'swhat pushes him, that's what
drives him, that's whatmotivates him, that's what makes
him do what he needs to bedoing.
So I don't know why that I hearthat about you, but I do.
(24:09):
I don't hear it about manypeople, um, because I don't
think many people could take itand the old Sean would have
punched me in the mouth.
But there's, there's a newsheriff in town.
So, um, I I'm glad that youwent through 75 hard and it it's
an.
It's an amazing program.
A mental toughness program.
It's not, you know it.
It does become a physical thing, right?
(24:31):
I mean, you're sore, you'rehurting.
Two workouts a day suck, it'severything that you would think
as far as difficulty goes.
But what comes from it on thebackside, the mental aspect of
it, it's the reason that we'resitting here.
It's the reason that you'resitting here.
(24:51):
It's the reason you are part ofour team at Catrons.
I mean 100%.
My life changed three years agowhen Jeff Swanson introduced 75
Hard to me.
That's when my life changed,Not when I started it, when I
completed it.
When I started it, when Icompleted it and uh, anybody out
there who's, you know, stuck ina rut.
(25:14):
This is your way out.
It's not easy, but it but it'syour way out.
So you know, with all thatbeing said, you complete 75 hard
and you and I can tell, I knowthat you did it right because
you've already made the commentthat you can feel yourself
slipping back into.
You know certain routines thatyou don't like and you recognize
(25:37):
that, but I know what's goingto happen.
You know when, when you get,when football is done, when
you're done coaching here thisseason, you're going to hop back
on the wagon and you're goingto.
You're going to do it again howdo you know that?
Speaker 4 (25:49):
because I literally thought that Because if not
you're going to get a text oneday and it's going to be like
what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
And I'm going to come over and I'm going to Wait.
You started phase two you dork.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
That's not as good a sound like there's going to be a
voice in that head of his.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Need to tell Sean.
All right, so from that acouple of weeks ago maybe a
month ago now, I don't rememberhow long ago it was, but you
sent a text to us, to Ben and I,that you were getting baptized.
Talk about that.
Speaker 5 (26:26):
What led to that?
Well, I was baptized when I wasseven or eight years old, but
it didn't mean anything to mewhen I was seven or eight years
old, but it didn't mean anythingto me.
So ever since I've beendivorced, I've just wanted to do
this and I've put it off for solong.
(26:46):
And I've asked a few peoplethis, that and the other about
hey, you know, I want to getbaptized.
But here's the thing about me.
I don't.
Here's what I told them.
I don't want to do it in frontof people, like like that.
That was my thought process,like I just want to be quiet
over here in the corner bymyself.
God said nope, so that's whyall those plans fell through.
(27:11):
So I believe I mean I don'tknow how many people were there-
there's a lot.
There's a lot of people there.
Again, it's about beingobedient and Pastor Eric at
Church of Faith here in Richmond.
They talked about a baptism.
I skipped the first one.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
Why I don the first?
Speaker 5 (27:33):
one, why?
I don't know why, I honestlydon't know why Were you afraid?
I don't know I wasn't afraid, Idon't know why.
I just maybe I wasn't readymentally.
I don't know why.
I just maybe I wasn't readymentally.
(27:53):
I don't know why.
But I just remember, you know,sitting in church and they were
talking about, hey, we're havinga baptism this week, and I
remember, like I need to do that, and then my flesh said nope,
and so I didn't.
And then, you know, I just keptgoing to church, kept going to
(28:14):
church and then Eric was likewe're having a baptism in New
Paris, at a.
Why can I not think?
of that Today's Harvest, today'sHarvest, and I'm like okay.
And then I asked my family, Iasked Chase Haven Hunter and, uh
(28:35):
, so we do it.
I decided on a Tuesday to do itand, um, I talked to pastor
Eric, who calls which I thinkthis is amazing, but he calls
everybody that's gettingbaptized and just kind of knows
their story.
And I told him my story and hewas what everybody that hears my
(28:55):
story.
I gave him the quick 20 minuteversion and he was like I don't
think it surprised him, but itkind of did.
And he just poured into me for20 minutes.
Man.
Just poured into me for 20minutes, man.
(29:20):
And, uh, he, he asked me why,what Jesus was to me, and I said
he saved my life, he saved allof our lives.
So, and I talked about that,which I don't think I can talk
about that right now, I just I,I would lose everything, the
podcast would end, um.
But he reassured me, he told mewhat it meant, he asked all the
(29:46):
right questions, he made itfeel comfortable and he, and he
told me he's like Sean, your oldSean is dead.
The new Sean is a tool for God.
He's going to use you as a tooland just let him and I said
okay, it's about being obedient,so why did I choose that time?
(30:09):
It's time.
It's time for me to be bold inmy faith, and I've hidden from.
I've hidden from that for solong.
That's the truth.
I hear.
(30:31):
You have voices in your head,we all do.
All I hear is be obedient, andthat's what I'm going to do.
And what I find absolutelyphenomenal and heartwarming is
the people that showed up forthe baptism.
I never expected it.
(30:52):
And heartwarming is the peoplethat showed up for the baptism.
I never expected it.
I actually got three or fourtexts from angry friends that I
didn't tell them.
When I posted that on Facebook,they were like why didn't you
tell me how to come?
Speaker 1 (31:02):
I'm like who does that?
Speaker 5 (31:04):
I'm not going to promote my own baptism.
I told you guys because I meanyou're my close friends, you're
the only two people I told.
Well, justin, I told Justin andhis dad and mom showed up,
which was extremely heartwarming.
Joe Swartzel is a true man ofGod that I love to death.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Do you remember what he told you after you were
baptized?
He gave you a hug.
You remember what he said?
He said baptized.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
He gave you a hug.
Do you remember what he said?
He said the devil's going tocome for me.
The devil can't touch me.
Yeah, he can't put me throughanymore.
And I say that, but like I'vebeen through, it.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
What did you feel when you were baptized, when the
water was rushing across yourhead?
Speaker 5 (32:07):
What did you feel?
A warmth.
Everybody said the water wascold.
I felt this warmth come over me.
Peace I felt peace.
And what was special about thebaptism is I went first and my
(32:29):
son went second.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
It's powerful.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
It's awesome.
Someone else is going to getbaptized soon.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
She just didn't want to do it in front of people
either but, I understand, Iunderstand it's a big, it's a
big step, but and you know, thefirst time you I mean, and
honestly, it's that voice thatyou said you heard, that voice
that keeps saying be obedient,be obedient, be obedient.
I mean, there's also that othervoice that's in all of us that
tries to get us not to do thingslike that.
(33:00):
You know, and that's what wecould battle every single day.
But when you get baptized, man,it's just something completely
different.
And then you talk about thefriends and family that want to
come support you in the baptism.
It's because they've probablybeen baptized and they know what
it feels like and they know thenew Sean.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
That was the biggest surprise to me, like I never, I
mean, and there was a lot ofpeople there that came up and
gave me hugs.
I mean, my neighbor, chris, isamazing.
Jason, a guy that used to workfor me when I was at Love's, was
there.
And Jason, a guy that used towork for me when I was at Love's
, was there.
I've never experienced lovelike that and that's why it's
(33:41):
emotional, that's why it'sheartwarming, that's why it's
overwhelming for a person likeme.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Because I'm not used to that.
You didn't have that growing up.
Speaker 5 (33:55):
But you got it.
Now I've had it the whole timeI just didn't realize it.
Everybody does.
It's just you don't realize howmuch God loves you and Jesus
loves you until you understandwhat Jesus did on that cross for
all of us.
Once you understand that it'seasy to receive love and give a
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love because you look at ourlives and how comfortable we are
and what that man went throughand it's.
And what that man went throughand it's.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Yeah, hey, Haven, Can you step up to the mic back
there?
So we've got Sean's daughterHaven here.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
And we'll adjust the mic.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
She's got her dad's height.
Hey, she's going to be waytaller than me, probably,
hopefully.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
Haven.
What do you think?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
You can't give the typical kid answer.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Let me ask you this Wait, that was three words,
though.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
That was.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
We're improving here.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
IDNK, I'm surprised you didn't say that.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
All right, here's a better question what does your
dad mean to you?
Speaker 1 (35:19):
Everything.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Why is that?
What do you see in your dadthat other people might not see
yet?
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Goofiness and kindness.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
You're a mean person, man.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Your dad's a special man.
I think you know that, yourecognize that, and he, you know
he's been through a lot.
I know you guys have beenthrough a lot, but he's a
special man.
If you could, if you could tellhim one thing right now, what
would you tell him?
Speaker 1 (36:07):
That I love him.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's awesome what do you?
Think.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
I love her too.
I love all my children.
Speaker 3 (36:21):
It's pretty awesome.
It's so amazing for me to watchthis transformation because
I've known you since you were akid.
We competed on the fieldtogether on the diamond on the
basketball court.
You know, I remember you beingin the hospital after your
accident.
(36:41):
I remember seeing you doingsome crazy things.
I remember seeing you knocksome people out I mean, there
was, you know.
But it's unbelievable for me tosee the transformation, to see
the transformation, knowing allthat you've been through.
And, dude, you wrote a book.
(37:04):
Sean Rubish wrote a book.
It's amazing.
It continues to add to yourstory of it doesn't matter what
you've been through, how dark orhow deep it was in your life,
that you can do anything, and Ihope that's what people gain
from your story.
I know it is.
I, I've I've heard it enough,uh, from other people who have,
(37:25):
who've listened to the podcastand and I you're going to be
overwhelmed with people thatread the book and I'm going to
end this with one last readingthat you know you've got some
good quotes in here.
I've got to find it.
That you know you put at thetop of each chapter and I think
(37:48):
this summarizes you.
It's from CS Lewis.
It says you can't go back andchange the beginning, but you
can start where you are andchange the end.
You started where you're at.
You can't change what happened,right.
(38:11):
You can't change all the thingsyou went through as an
11-year-old boy, the challengesyou went through on your various
jobs and alcohol, and just allthe things you've been through
in your life.
You can't change that and youdon't want to change that.
But you can start where you'reat and you can change that.
But you can start where you'reat and you can change that
ending and I think thatsummarizes this book.
(38:32):
It summarizes your life and I'mextremely excited to see where
we go from here.
For sure you got anything toadd.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Yeah, quick question.
So you talk about when youfirst, you know, when we first
had you on the podcast and youtold your story and you talked
about how you knew that when danstarted the podcast and he
asked you that this was going tobe the time right, was it the
vulnerability of dan telling hisstory that made you feel like
this was the platform to do it,or what?
(39:07):
What was that feeling?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
that gave you like this?
Is it like you knew it?
Or what was that feeling thatgave you like this?
Is it?
Speaker 4 (39:09):
Like you knew that you had it all in you.
You knew you wanted to tell it.
What gave you that confidenceto come on here and tell it
Trust.
Speaker 5 (39:17):
Trust and Dan.
It all goes back to and this iswhy football is important for
the youth Like when you gothrough football and you go
through all of that stuff withindividuals, there's a bond that
will never be taken away fromyou.
There's a he.
He was my offensive, he was youplayed left tackle, left guard.
(39:41):
One of those I don't knowthat's for right guard, right
guard really, really impacted.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
you Couldn't pay him on the blind side.
Speaker 5 (39:50):
Yeah, I know, no kidding, I was your right guard.
Speaker 4 (39:53):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Makes sense.
But that's why Because I've youknow trust was the biggest
thing, like when we went throughthat bond in football two days.
You know the six years we spenttogether.
Like that means something.
And I've always looked up toyou, dan, you know with your
(40:18):
business and how you conductyourself and you know your
everyday life and your familyand your dad is an amazing
person, your brother's great Ijust it came down to respect and
trust and I trusted that youwould handle my story the right
(40:40):
way, you would do it the rightway and that's, I think that was
the biggest hurdle of like I'mnot the guy this is going to
sound weird, but I'm not the guythat'll go online and just
promote me Like that's.
I mean anyone who ever looks atmy Facebook.
I was one of those guys thatwould just scroll through and
(41:02):
never post ever, because thatwas super uncomfortable for me.
Because that was superuncomfortable for me.
So trusting you with my storywas 100% the factor of like this
is it.
And when I heard you say that,I mean there's all kinds of
voices in my head like yes, thisis it.
(41:25):
But then again I still still.
Look how long it took meanother, I think you told me on
your sixth episode, I think,because I went back and I looked
that day I was like there wassix, one, six, and then I looked
at the first one I was likemaybe this isn't the avenue.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
That's pretty bad, I agree.
Hey, everybody's got to startsomewhere.
Speaker 5 (41:57):
God loves the humble beginnings, right.
So I mean that's why it wasTrust.
Speaker 4 (42:09):
I just when you go back to the beginning of, like
your first time telling it, andthen we do this, you know the
second, and then we do the live,like if you go back and you
have time to listen to all those, you can see the faith journey
happening in those podcasts andto see where you're at right now
.
Man, it just it's awesome.
I'm so proud of you and I youknow and that's what Dan talks
(42:32):
about the transformation that hewas blessed enough to see,
right Like since you guys werelittle, have that brotherhood
with you and I'm just luckyenough to be able to see you
tell your story and then seealmost like the peace that's
come over you and then just youkilling it in life.
Man, I mean it's awesome.
Speaker 5 (42:46):
And then just you killing it in life, man, I mean
it's awesome.
I think me telling my storyaccelerated it, yeah For sure.
And also just I mean go backand look at the first episode
compared to the second episode,to probably this episode with my
(43:07):
weight.
Speaker 4 (43:09):
Yeah Well that's what I was about to say.
You can't tell that you're infootball season and not hitting
the two workouts a day.
Thank you, You're looking goodbrother.
Speaker 5 (43:18):
Thank you, I've lost.
I was always on a healthjourney before I started 75 hard
.
Well, somewhat.
I started back in mid-Januaryjust trying to start eating
healthy, but once again I got upto 200 pounds.
I'm 5'7".
Speaker 3 (43:35):
What are you?
4'2", 4'2" or sorry?
Speaker 5 (43:38):
5' See everybody.
Speaker 4 (43:41):
He's a bully.
I'm just messing.
I know you are Go out and betempered.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
But I was mid-January .
I was almost 200 pounds, I'm160 now.
I lost about 10 pounds before Istarted 75 hard and 75 hard
just accelerated it and itbrought me to fasting a little
bit.
I did a three-day fast in themiddle of 75 hard.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Three days.
Speaker 5 (44:09):
Yeah, tried it again about two weeks ago and I made
it 41 hours and I about died.
I literally, literally walkedout of the meeting.
I got up, walked out of themeeting and said I, I got to go
and I had literally went acrossthe gas station and just shoved
a bunch of sugar, jug food andjunk food in my mouth.
I I don't know why that firstthree day, the first time I did
(44:34):
it, once I got past the hungerpart, I was working out.
Maybe that's the difference.
I haven't been able to work outwhen I was with football, yeah,
but I felt great at the end ofthree days.
I literally felt amazing and Iknow this sounds weird, but the
longer I went, the more energy Ihad to like I had energy out
(44:56):
there.
I was just full of energy, veryproductive, and I was doing the
two workouts.
They were awesome and I waslifting more weight than ever
and I was lifting more weightthan ever and my workouts went
from 45 minutes to like I couldeasily go an hour and 15 without
(45:18):
batting an eye.
And then, but yeah, I mean, Ithink the difference when I
tried to three-day fast thistime is I wasn't doing the
workouts and the hunger, justgot me.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Yeah Well, and you're just in a different mental
state when you're in the program.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
You are a hundred percent, you're locked in.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Um.
So any anything you want toclose with that, you want to
leave our listeners that wedidn't talk about.
Speaker 5 (45:42):
Uh, just for the longest time, man, I've chase.
Chase your purpose, man, like Ithink God has given everybody a
gift and.
I think so.
(46:04):
When I was doing 75 hard, Ilistened to David Goggins a lot.
So when I was doing 75 Hard, Ilistened to David Goggins a lot
and the story he tells about andthis hit me like a ton of
bricks.
He tells a story I think it wasJoe Rogan where he's like watch
, your biggest fear and hisbiggest fear was when David
(46:29):
Goggins goes to heaven.
There's a big board up thereand he's, you know, god's in
front of him and Jesus and allthat.
And it says you know, navy SEALchanged millions of people's
lives and this, that and theother.
And David Goggins was like, well, I think I told it wrong, but
that expectation that God hasfor you in the life, that like
if I got up there and it saysyou know whatever it says about
(46:54):
me and I didn't live up to that,like that's David Goggins'
biggest fear and that's the wayI feel, like and that's why I
keep talking about God, put thison me for a reason.
And if I don't be obedient andtell my story, like when I meet
him, like what does that sayabout Sean Rubish?
(47:16):
What does that say about Ben?
What does that say about Dan?
And are you meeting God'sexpectation for your life?
Are you using his gifts that hegave?
Speaker 4 (47:26):
you?
Do we live up to our potentialof what he saw for us?
Speaker 5 (47:33):
And again, the closer you get to God, the harder it
becomes, in my opinion.
Oh yeah, Because you alwaystalk about the imposter syndrome
like 100%, like I struggle somedays.
Everybody does, I think.
(47:54):
But you just got to keep movingforward.
God has given you a gift.
Use it.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
That's great.
The obedience thing I think weall struggle with too.
What I always tell myself is ifI'm trying to be obedient with
God and I believe the HolySpirit is telling me something
and I do it, I might miss.
I don't think the God I serveis one that's going to be like
yeah, Ben, you screwed it up.
Like now you're going to dealwith the consequences.
Like I feel like if you'rebeing obedient to God and you're
(48:25):
doing the right thing, I thinkGod's going to take care of you
and if you're off the path, he'sgoing to put you right back on
the path.
But I believe that's a God weserve.
Speaker 5 (48:33):
I agree, and you may not know what that next step is,
but just keep walking forwardand it'll be.
It'll open up.
It will open up.
I don't know what's next.
Well, I may have a feelingwhat's next, but I don't know
how that's going to work out.
(48:54):
I don't know what that lookslike, but I'm going to keep
walking forward and I'm going tostart being more obedient and I
, I put my, I put my trust inGod, I put my trust in God, amen
, amen, all right, everybody,turning pain into purpose.
Speaker 3 (49:12):
We'll have links to the show.
You can see it on the screenright now if you're on YouTube
or on Patreon.
There's a couple of differentways to get it, through Amazon
or Sean's website as well.
But buy this book.
Buy it for yourself, buy it forsomeone else who needs to hear
it, buy it for that kid outthere who you know struggling
that needs to, to see that, nomatter what happens in your life
(49:37):
, that you will get through it,it will get better.
You just got to keep takingthat step.
Also, if there's any businessesout there, if there's any uh,
church groups, anybody out therelooking for a speaker Sean did
not give me permission to saythis, but I'm going to say it
anyways because I'm a bully Seanis available to come and share
(49:59):
his story and, beyond his story,the lessons that he's learned
in life about how to persevere,how to get through it, how to
have faith.
And he's he's he's just startingthat journey.
But if you're looking forsomebody to come and motivate,
to come and inspire, to come andhelp that one person, sean's
(50:20):
your man, so you can.
You can reach Sean.
He's on all social mediaplatforms.
Well, again, we'll haveeverything linked to this
episode.
You can reach out to me or toBen or to the Be Tempered
website.
We'll have everything on thereas well.
But support him, continue tosupport the show like you do.
We appreciate all that stuff.
Go out, be tempered.
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