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April 8, 2025 39 mins

In this laugh-out-loud, no-holds-barred episode of Between Two Coaches, Norbert Orlewicz sits down with powerhouse productivity and leadership coach Jennie Bellinger—aka the "Direct Sales Dom"—for a bold and unapologetic conversation about coaching, branding, and self-leadership.

Jennie is the host of the Badass Direct Sales Mastery podcast, a two-time international bestselling author, and a certified professional coach who helps direct sales leaders reclaim their time and step fully into their power. But she’s also a brand rebel who’s flipped the script on what a coaching business should look like—and it’s working.

Inside this episode:

  • Why certification + self-awareness is the real fast track to becoming a powerful coach

  • What the world of network marketing taught Jennie about rejection, resilience, and results

  • The branding story behind BDSM (yes, THAT BDSM), and how it filters the wrong clients out

  • Why building your business solo is the fastest way to burn out—and how collaboration changes everything

  • The biggest mistake Jennie made with her first virtual summit (and how she turned failure into fire)

  • How to prequalify clients so you only work with the hell-yeses

Jennie also reveals her high-level mastermind for top network marketing leaders—and shares a powerful free gift: the Manifesting Sales Success guided meditation, created to rewire your sales mindset in under 9 minutes a day.

If you’re tired of playing small, hiding behind bland branding, or attracting the wrong clients, this episode will wake you up. It's real, raw, and ridiculously useful.

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