#17 Love Island USA Season 7 Recap: Casa to Finale!

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Hi, everybody.
My name is Lindsay, and I'm a bravo holic.
You're pretty wild.
I mean, I think you're saying that hard.
Times can be done up.
All right.
Welcome back to Bravo Halexanonymous, everybody.
For our weekly meeting today,I have a special guest.

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My friend John Llamas is here,and we are talking today
only about Love Islandleading up to the finale. Hi,
my name is John Llamasand I am a bubble holic.
Welcome, John.
Thanks.
Hi everyone.
I'm so excited you're here, John.

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I am excited as well.
I'm a big fan.
Yes, of the podcasts and,
of the show. So. Yeah.
Well, you brought your cute little villawater bottle and your Casa Bro's t shirt.
I mean, a bomb showhow to enter the villa.
A bombshell has entered the villa.
His name is John Llamas, and he is notinterested in any of these hetero beings.

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I mean, yes, some of them are pretty sexy.
Of course.
Who do you think is.
Who do you think is like, the hottest?Okay.
The the hot. When I say who,I think the hottest.
And who are you drawn to?Who are you like?
You've like.
Okay I love,

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I love and this is no particular order.
No particular order.
I like,
I like peppy Iris
and I feel like it would be really hardto deny ACS energy
like I don't sometimes he drives me crazyand I don't like him.

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But like from the pure confidence like
confidence and like bodyand like complete package thing,
I think if I was in the villawith that person,
it would be hard for meto not like give that person my attention.
Okay.
Do you know, do you know the rapper?
The baby?
I've heard of the baby.
He. That's the energy. He gets me.

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And I hate him like you.
You, Like.
Well, I don't like hishow he moves in the villa at all,
but I'm just talking from a pure, like,
appearance and, confidence standpoint.
Like an energy standpoint.
I can see it.I mean, yeah, he's very confident
and, like,I feel like people are drawn to that.
They're all drawn to him.
I think Pepe is like.

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At first I wasn't into.
And of course Charlie.
Charlie was sexy.
I like Charlie was sexyin his own little way. I didn't like his.
I don't like his hair.
It's like but the thing about
I know and he's Britishso it would never go anywhere I guess.
But he could hold space
for like, women to feel that the waythey felt like when Hannah was like,

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kind of being all messy and chaotic,he wasn't.
He was sitting and listen,I saw him sitting and listening to her,
and he wasn't getting defensive
or taking what she was sayingpersonally and reacting.
He could sit there
and listen to what she was saying,and I thought that was really a man, man.
It was really it was a little
he was flexing some secure attachmentand I was like, oh yeah, yeah.

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Because you don't see that oftenon these show.
See, Ellen was giving that as well.
I feel like his likeemotional maturity was very like,
his hair and his eyebrows though.
Horrible. Really horrible.
Well, I maybe it's when he pushed it back,I was like, it was better.
And I'm happythat his producer gave him that.
No, it it was giving like,

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mean girls, you know, like,tell him his hair looks great.
Push back.
Yeah, yeah, I yeah, I just wasn't at allattracted to Ellen, but but you know what?
He literally looks likethree of my male gay friends.
And so maybe that's it.I think it's the lips.
He has really, really beautiful lips.
I was like, oh, yeah,he has, like, plump gay boy lips.
Yeah. And the eyes, I mean.And then he has wax brows.

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So it's like just very attractive.
He's a very attractive man.
He's going gonna he's going to do great.
He, he needs to like fix the little like
chest hair on the chest.
Just like take that off.
It's not working for you.
Other than that Ellen you can call John.
Okay.
Well no I have a boyfriend.

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Stop that. Don't call John.
So speaking of your boyfriend,if you are listening to this podcast
and you also listen to my other podcast,meet my friends.
You know, Chris Byers, who was recently onand will be on again
and this is the John.
This is the John.
We talked about this dear John,this is him.
Yeah.
My boyfriend cannot get enoughof this podcast.

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I don't even see him anymore
because he's like here with you nowand I see what's happening.
He literally loves comingand recording the podcast.
Like, I'mjust going to go hang out with Lindsay.
He told me yesterdaythat he was trying to have a sleepover.
Yeah, he didn't want to leave.
He didn't want to leave. Yeah.
He's like,I'm just gonna go sleep over with her
and like, you can sleepover with hersome other time.
I was like, oh, okay. Sure. Whatever.
So he might come and sleepover tonight.

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I can't wait, I love that.
Okay, great. He was I was like,you want to cry?
You can't.I'm not working tomorrow. I told him,
and I waslike, but I think John's expecting you.
And then he.
He literally was hereand he didn't want to go.
And I was like, you're you're here,you're having fun playing podcast.
And he's like, yeah, I love this.
And I was like, I knew you'd love it.
You've like,opened up a whole new world for him.

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Yeah, yeah I will. I hope he runs with it.
Well let's see where it goes.
Okay.
Okay.
Back to Love Island.
So after the houseguests got back to Casa,we had that big recoupling ceremony
and things were switched up for people.
I think that one,they teased us with the whole

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Sierra Nick all Andrea thing.
How do you feel about the Nicole Andreathing?
I heard you're a Stan. I mean, when that
when Nick got
eliminated and I mean a lot Alondrato like when I saw
both of them get eliminated, I was like,no, they're they're too big in this show.
I don't think I don't thinkthey're going to go home.
And I called it like,Nick gets in the car, right?

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And I mean, spoiler alert for whoever.
No, it's too late.
I mean, you're listening to. Sorry.
You're you're up to date.
Don't worry. Sorry.
But. Yeah, the door open,
the door opens and you see herand I'm just like, okay, great.
Like, where is this going?
And I think producers gave uswhat we wanted.
You know, they heardthey heard what we wanted and we got it.

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And yes, I am a big Nicole Andre said,I don't know if they're going to win.
Who knows?
They've got a big following on TikTok,though.
Booktok is behind.
We've only got, what, like two,three episodes left.
Yeah.
We're essentially this is essentiallythe episode of the podcast
that's going to roll up to the finale,and so far we haven't gotten

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any connection between the two otherthan like them just communicating.
And I don't know, I think it's too late.
It's it honestly feels like this season ofLove Island is like Best Friend Island.
It is.
I feel Andrea and Nick are scene partners.
Yeah.
And they're they're actorsthat are friends on set.

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Yeah. And they're comfortabledoing their scenes.
But it's it'sso it's almost like insulting.
It feels like a little insult.
It feels like people saw the popularitythat last season received.
And, they want that.
They want that like it's it'slike the influencers are just like, oh,
that's me. Like, I could be that person.
And like, I work in the service industryand the amount of people that I hear,

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like, just like walking by my tableis like hearing them say like, oh my God.
Like,
you could be on Love Island like a friendtelling a friend, and it's like you're
just hyping this person upto, like, you know, this, like false
idea of like, I mean,yeah, maybe they can be on Love Island.
Who's to say?
But like, they I don't know,the people they pick on this show is like,

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can I tell you it reminds me a lot ofI used to work in the sports industry.
I worked in for ESPN,and when I was working there,
there's very much a culturewith professional athletes
that when they retire, they all want to goon to work as commentators and hosts.
Like literally every professional athletein every of the big Four sports

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leagues, thinks that they havethat potential
when they move onfrom their physical career.
And they still, because they soonbe involved with the sport that they love.
And they're like, yeah,I could be like Shaq talking on screen.
Yeah.
And realistically, that is not an optionfor most of them at all,
because you have to be able
to articulate things you to be ableto build a following in an audience,

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you have to.
There's so many fans gotta havethe charisma, uniqueness, nerve, talent.
You know, it's gotta be country.
Oh, I'm sorry, but you can.
This is, this podcast.
You can say whatever you wantbecause it's my my podcast.
No, but but like, that was a common thingin the sports industry.
Like they would actively talk about thatall the time.

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When they'd come to visit the network,they'd be schmoozing like department
heads, thinking that was going toget them in and give them opportunities.
And I feel like with the boom of realityTV in the
how we seen it grown last 15 years fromwhat was the real world.
And like the early aughts Kardashianshow to now, we have shows like traitors.

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The challenge We have.
We have legacy shows, Amazing Racethat take, we have we have Deal or No Deal
Island, like we have these legacy showsthat take now careered reality stars.
Yeah.
And or reality starsand give them a career as a reality star
and drop them into all thesedifferent competition shows.

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Netflix has their first
ever live show called like Red Balloonor Pop the Red balloon or whatever,
and they're rotating in realitystars on that, and it's a dating show.
It's like there's so much world
for a reality star now to like, take on.
I think casting is more importantthan ever.

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Finding like Big Brother,I'm a huge Big Brother fan.
It's starting tonight.I'm so excited to make my picks.
My sister and I pick people called.
We don't watch them like interact at all.
We look at pictures and descriptionsand we pick three each.
No way. Yeah. And those are like you'reand you're locked in.
That's who you're rooting for this season.
Is there money involved? No, it's pride.

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I mean we could put money online,but pride is just as good for us.
I mean, give me involved.
You like big brother?
I don't like big brother.
But I mean, I've watched I need something,I've watched it and like, I've been,
I've actually been told that I can,I could be on the show and I could win.
I love that, maybe I should watch it.
They're like, you're.
I think I watched the, reindeer Specialor Reindeer Games was great games.

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Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah.
I watched that season,because I had a friend who worked on it.
Yeah.
But yeah, it was it's it's really good.
Yeah, it's it's, it's not just physical.
It's like 24 hour social game.
It is intense.
I think I could do it.
I again, I, I saw that seasonand I was like, you know what?

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That was a short season.That was only two weeks.
But then also like it's now like 90 days,I don't know, I can't see myself
like auditioning for something like I hatewaiting in lines and like, didn't you?
I think you auditioned, right?
For the first time ever.
I auditioned last year.
Yeah,we were going to go and I went in person
because we had a friendand I was like, I'm this.

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If I ever have a shot, this is,this is it, I'm going to go.
And it was like, no big deal.
And honestly,the people watching was awesome.
So I will divert from Love Islandand I'll tell you about my experience.
Okay.
Went to West Hollywood,
I brought my littleI have with this little pop up stools
that you know, that we bring to the themeparks. We're
waiting in line for things like HalloweenHorror Nights, and I brought that.

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And so I had my little coffee,and I just sat there
and everyone was jealousbecause they were all standing for hours,
and I was chilling on my phone,scrolling with my lot time.
Everyone's looking at you
and they're like this, this girl'sgoing to get it right, I'm sure.
Come on. And so no.
Then we get inside,they break you off into groups,
and you have to you go offinto little groups of seven and a producer
pulls your group, and then you're askedquestions down the line.

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They'll pointand ask each person a question.
I thought I killed it,of course I was bored.
I know the show.
I've been watching it since it started.
I've been a live feeder, likeI am an intensely knowledgeable person.
You're comedian, big brother gameplay.
And yeah,my social prowess is unlike anyone else
you know, working in restaurants.
That muscle is the exact muscleyou need to win.

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Big brother, you are a salesperson.
You need people to like you.
Yeah, and you have to be able
to hold that energy for an entire summerliving with them.
I think my biggest problemwould be the bathroom.
That'd be the only issue I would have.
I'd be so comfortable on a soundstage,
I'd be fine selling myselfto every personality in the house.
You know what's wrong with the bathroomyou share a bathroom with?
Like everyone in the house, but, like,that's a that's disgusting.

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For me, personally,that I don't like porta potties.
I don't like smells.
I don't like sharing,I like I don't like you don't even know
these people are clean, friendly.
Another private pissall over the toilet seat.
Anyway, this,like I'm my biggest problem. Gotcha.
Everything else I could handle.
Maybe miss my dogs, but.
So. No, but my.
So they go down the line,they ask you questions.
Like I tried to have a good balanceof taking shots

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at people that were in my group.
So being like, well,
I wouldn't do it
like Nancyand like showing that I was bold enough
to like, call people outto the in front of their face. Yeah.
But then also like giving strong strategy.
I think I was like the strongestin the group, maybe me and this older
woman, just because it's hardto cast old people on these shows.
So I was like, okay,the two of us were the strongest in
the group was going to be an idiot.
Nutter, of course, didn'thear shit back this year.

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I said, okay, I'm to send a self-tape,but it's going to be like disgusting.
It's going to be so cringe.
The whole self-tape was how I should be.
They should bring me in as the villain
and how I am not afraidto look bad on national television
and how I would be there literallyas a producer plant to stir up shit.
Do you have it?
Yeah. I'll show to you later.Okay, I need to watch this.

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But I was like, If I'm going to like,you're lying, right?
If I'm going to make a big swingand send in a self-tape like,
but I still fucking hate it.I hate looking at myself on camera.
I hate recording selftapes is a reason I'm not an actor.
Yeah, like but I'll do it for Big Brother.
The only gamethat and maybe traitors like.
But obviouslyyou're not going to get traitors
unless you're on another showfirst. Yeah. You got to be famous.
You got a villain? Yeah.
Which I could do on Big Brother.

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I know the show so well.
I love the traitors like they
they have, like, drag queens and, like,just like a variety of, like, random.
It's incredible.
People.
Did youdid you watch House of villains? Yes.
Love the villains I can'twait I can't wait for it to come back.
I actually like the goat to the goats.
Another one that I actually
found the fondness for for cheap realityTV with, like, what's his name?

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Tosh point oh as a host. Yes.
And then there's another really fuckinggood show that is a cackle and a hoot.
Spencer Pratt was on it.
They're like the woman.
One of the womenfrom The Golden Bachelor was on it,
and she made it so fucking funny.
And it's like,get out of the house or something on Hulu.
I forget what it's called,get out or something.
And the objective isthere's a big running clock

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and it keeps going,the money keeps going up,
and if you escape the house, rundown the driveway at this big mansion
and you get out the gate when the gate isopen, it only opens a couple times a day.
You get all the moneythat's currently on the board,
so people are getting clues throughoutthe day of like when the gate could open.
They're building alliances to help themget out the gate or whatever,

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and they're trying different strategiesbecause you have to get all the way down
the driveway before another houseguestsees you and hits the button.
So it's really fun.
And then like, they just have this greatbalance and casting on that show
where there's like clueless,clueless people.
Like one of the women,she literally fell asleep.
She rallied these two guys,super athletic guys to help her.

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Yeah.
And then she fell asleepwhen the window opened in the gate.
Open. She was. They couldn't find her.
She was crashed out in her room.It was hilarious.
I mean, that'd be me saying, all right.
Just like,
no effort.
So. No.So be ready to be the one to do it.
So that was my experience.They didn't call me back.
They're fools.
They should still call me.
They missed out on the great opportunity.

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I mean, who's to say they have your.
They have this tape now and maybe they'remaybe Mia may be casting.
You might be rifling through.
But see, it's anonymous podcast episodesand I'll be like, oh wait, duh.
We heard her and we. Yeah.
She was like, wait, we need this person.
Yeah, I don't know, I would be, I would,
I would love a summer in the Big Brotherhouse.
It'd be so good.
But anyway, Badger, Love Island,the casting is important.

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And I think that this seasonthey were trying to recreate last season's
so much, they're trying to recreate PG,and then the people in the show
want to be PG.
So no one's actually like pursuingdeep relationships like you might see
on other seasons or in other countries,versions of Love Island.
Instead, they're all playing it safe,they're all putting up face,

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and they're all like building allianceswith each other to get to the end.
Do you watch any of the other seasonsof, like, I really want to get okay,
because I heard it's like,okay, it'll restore faith in the show.
I watched, Australia.
With Sophie,
I forget her last name,but like the house, she's so hot.

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But also hot.
And that'swhy they're toxicities. Exactly.
Yeah. But that was,that was a good season.
And like this girl like her nameI think her name was, covered in tattoos.
Like I was like yes.
For finally a member on the showthat's like, not.
You know, normal looking and like. Yes.

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Just like model and like, she,I mean, yeah, she I think she was
she was a model, I think.
But like, she was just like,not what you expected.
And she won the showand I was so happy for her.
Like yeah.
Like I think that wasone of the better seasons.
But yeah, I think with this season,

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it just feels like
they were really, like you said,trying to recreate last season.
Yeah.
And it didn't really go anywhere.
Like, we didn't we didn'twe didn't get the love connections.
We didn't get like the drama.
Like we didn'twe didn't get movie night, I know,

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can I tell youI think and we'll get into this.
I think when Sierra leaves
and in that that competitionright before Sierra leaving,
when Ace and Shelly find outthey're in the fucking bottom
with the voting, like four times. Yeah.
I think there was somelittle perfect storm that happened

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that took a lot of that pressureoff of them.
Like made Ace and Shelly realizethat they're not frontrunners
for winning this thing
so they can just, like, be themselvesand take a fucking breath.
Yeah.
And then when Sierra left, it's like, oh,so now Nick
and Sierra aren't even competition.
Maybe we can take another breath.
And then they brought these babiesinto the house,
and the energy felt like a little bitmore playful, and everyone

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actually felt like they were being normaland being themselves.
For a minuteI was like, okay, so everyone's actually
putting up a front.
So are you.
Are you saying that people are putting upa front because Sierra was in there?
I feel like they were putting up a frontbecause
Nick and Sierra were a solid couple.

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They were the ones like that.
They and they got locked in beforeeverybody else.
And so if you're looking at someonelike Ace and Shelly, who clearly came in
competitive.
Yeah.
And you're looking at Taylor and Andrea,then Clark,
who also I think came in competitivebut didn't
hold a card hand, especially with acecoaching Taylor on camera.

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Yeah. He was like,oh no, he's not a threat.
So he can be my homie.
And they're looking down the linewho's a threat.
And then they're eliminating peoplewith real connections to like TJ
and Iris were hanging out with Nick and,
hanging out with
Nick and Sierraas couples for a few days in a row.
They were justthe foursome were hanging out together.
They were likethey were the only one. Couples? Yes.

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And they were the only onesthat didn't get any drama.
Male.
And when that happened, TJ was kicked out.
And I understand that they're goingto stand behind their guy.
He's going to stand behind Taylorbecause they want Taylor
at the end of the day is knowshe needs like a Taylor vote
on this thing.
So he's looking at his numbers.
I can see how he's playing and he'll begreat on a show like The Challenge.

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I really do think ace should move on
to another show like The Challenge,because that's where he's going to shine.
Or like villains.
I don't think he's villainous enough yet.
I think I think like he needsto lose his shit on camera
to get on the villains, but he hasn't doneanything villainous to that extent.
To actually get that clout, he has to havean outburst, and he's pretty reserved.

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He'll hold his tongue.
Yeah.
So, I think he's going to challenge
and he has to get in some fightswith some other fucking alpha
males that are going to call him outon his shit.
I mean, he's young, he's like 23.
Yeah, yeah, throw him in there.He'd be great on the challenge honestly.
Like I don't like the way he likespeaks to Shelley
or like the way that he was talkingto Amaya, like when they were a couple

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that were where he was likeinstantly setting a boundary
and I mean, I get it,you know, I'm here for boundaries.
Well, you know why he's doing that?
Because he came into the housewith Shelley.
I'm a firm believerthat they were together before the show.
And I'll tell you why.
It's obvious in a hetero relationship,if you're with a girl

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as fucking hot as Shelley and he, like,maybe met her once
and now he's getting a chance with her,that man wants to touch her.
That man wants to kiss her.
That man would be trying to be physicalmore.
He's been keep.
He's played.They're an old fucking couple.
They're kisses. They're pecks.Their first peck.
I've said this before.
Their their first kiss on cameraoutside of a competition at the doors.

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When they open the doors and shit. Yeah.
That was their first kiss.
Not in a competition. On camera
and in front of the group.
And it was a peck.
It was like this old couple peck.
It wasn't like a real, like, moment kiss.
And they they're not giventhat you don't see them hugging up,
but maybe they're doing a little bit more.
And I literally thinkthe producer told them to do it.

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If they want to winnow, they're doing it a little.
I think they've been literally told to doit, but they're given old couples shit,
like when you're in a relationshipfor a long time and you give each other
a couple packs, you know,you're not he's not going for tongue.
I'd be trying to go for tonguewith Shelley.
Come on.
I'd be trying to.
I'd be trying to hold her all the time.
That man like.
And I can understand.Maybe there's a little bit of like,

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maybe his game is a little bitmore reserved
and standoffish because he's a short king,so he doesn't want to come on strong.
Know, hear me out, hear me out.
Because he's a short king in a game, in ain the hetero dating world.
Trying to get a girl like Shelley.
Maybe he's playing.
He plays back
because he doesn't want to come offclingy and desperate,

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and that's part of his game.
But it's too much for me to believe
that they don't havea preexisting relationship.
I'm a short king and I come offclingy and desperate.
But you're not.
You're not hetero games totally different.
Totally different.
Yeah.
You're right, no I do, yeah, I think he,
Yeah,there's that rumor that they met outside.

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I believe it,
and I think she's like, what,like a video vixen or something like that.
Like she came out in music videos.
He's like an up and comingrapper or something like that. Yeah.
And, somehow they
are in the same house,and now they're doing this thing together.
Which I also do believe,I do believe from the beginning

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I was like, yeah, this these two are like,they know each other
and they and they, they're,
they're playing this game and I don'tI honestly don't think
it's going to get them far. It's okay.
It's like in Big Brother for example,their seasons where they bring people
in that know each other. Yeah.
But my thing is on a showlooking for love,
you got to be open about that stuffand transparent.

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And I know they they gave us a seed of itbeing like, well, we met one one night
and exchanged, you know, Instagrams.
But I think it's way more than that.
Like, I think they just saying
that to cover their tracks,but I don't think that's the truth.
You guys hung out and like, yeah,you guys have hooked up, you've hung out.
You've probably gone on some dates. Yeah.
And then you both were like,hey, I'm applying for this.
I'm applying for the she's what, 29, 27?

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She's 27, 27. He's 23. Yeah.
Okay.
It's this is a business arrangement, girl.
It's a business arrangement.
She wanted Chris.Okay, let's talk about it.
She wanted Chris. She didn't want Chris.
And she was kind of pissed
that she was locked into this thingwith ace from day one.
Okay?
And she knew that they had a planto win it together. Yeah.
And so that'swhy eight when when Amaya started using

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pet names, ace started getting like, whoa,you're moving too fast for me, girl.
Like, don't call me babe yet,because he knows he can't push it too far
because he has to end upgetting with Shelly.
They have to make itlook like they're looking
and then they get to each other.
Finally, they're teasing us.
Course, they did that last season, butshe's just calling you babe like I know.
Well, she doesn't get it.

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She doesn't. I know, fucking loser.
She doesn't get it.
He doesn't get it.
I mean, I get it though,because that's what he's doing.
Well, listen, Chrisdoesn't like it when I call him babe, so.
And, well, he doesn'tlike what anyone calls him babe, but,
so I guess, like,
I get it, but it's it's in his sense.
It's like
she was.
He she was calling him babe,and he felt like it was, like, too soon

(25:39):
to be being called. Yeah. It's like,girl, it's a cultural thing. Yeah.
And I think that's offensive.
And I think that'swhat Brian brought up as well,
where it's like, well, meet her halfway,you know.
But back to Chris and Shelly.
Yeah.
So I wanted to say thisbecause you mentioned something earlier.
How like you work with ESPN and like,
elite athletes and stuffand how they all wanted to

(25:59):
work and like, doing, like,
podcasts or like, broadcastercasting and stuff like that.
It reminded me of, like,what Chris was having that moment
when he was just like, in his head
not knowing what to do, where it's like
if he's going to go back and playbasketball.
He's gone for likesix months overseas. But then

(26:20):
it, it, it made me
think of like all these athletes and like,that's all they really know.
That'sthat's all they've done their whole life.
Yeah. They've played that sporttheir whole life.
Yeah.
So the only thing that they would ratherdo would be,
like you said, broadcast journaling or
because it keeps them in that same realm.

(26:40):
But I just wanted like
I just wanted to bring that upbecause they reminded me of like, Chris.
And I was like, oh, like down like.Yeah, like it made me think.
I was like, that's that's all. He really.
There's a lot of uncertaintyto your career as an athlete ending.
And it even happens to college athletes.
Yeah.
So you train like for example,I played sports at a very serious level
all through high school,like training the full summer, eight hours

(27:02):
a day in gyms, five days a week,like training all summer for my season
and like doing it.
And when I got to universityand decided to not play
at that level of my sport and likeI was in sports, I was in sports major.
Yeah.
But still,and just do like rec sports and stuff.
There's like an identity crisisthat you go through where you have to

(27:25):
then find out who you areand what else you like,
because you've been trainingyour whole life.
And it happens soon too,like it happens at a very young age.
Like you're like in your 30s, like early30s, like, you know, going into your 40s
when like athletes are planning to retirebecause their bodies are
and these guys aren'talways the most educated.
Yeah.
So they don't maybe they didn'tfinish college or even if they did,

(27:47):
they were just sliding bybecause they're killing it on the court.
And well, don'tyou need like a certain GPA?
It's like, yeah,they have all those things. But like
so you would think that
you're if you're six seven and you'reaveraging 20 points a game for the college
team, your professors can know who you arein the room and you're going to get by.

(28:10):
There's things that are just done,
you know, and we're not going to bullshithere.
Things are just done.
When I was in university,
everyone on the footballteam had the tests before the tests,
and if you were buddies with those guys,you could get the test too.
It's shit like that. And that's a court.
That's a Canadian university.
That's not, you know what I'm saying?
It's not America or parents be paying,you know.

(28:31):
Yeah, they can do that too.
But like I'm just saying like that'sthat's how it is.
So these guys are focused on this careertheir whole life.
And that's why they're like,
oh yeah, after I retire,I'll just go into like working for ESPN
and like the percentage of thatactually happening is like less than 1%.
It's like harderit's easier to get into the Olympics.
I'm not joking.
Then get one of those seatsbecause there's only so many.

(28:53):
Now with social media being where
it's at, like there's much more potential,but you have to stick with it
and you have tocreate your own opportunity.
So that's a whole nother thing.
Yeah, but there is opportunity.
So when it comes to
Chris and
Hoda and their future together,I don't think anything's tying Hoda down.
Like, if he wants to go to Europefor eight months,
I could see that girl going, like,I'll meet you there.

(29:14):
Oh, yeah.
So, you know, or even, like,
I could also see her just being like,okay, cool girl, go play basketball.
I'll be here.Yeah, I'll come visit you for a couple.
I could see her waiting to I could,you know, I could see Hoda winning.
I could really see her and Chris winningI think.
Oh, really compatible.
Well, actually, after whatTuesday's episode, they're just working.

(29:36):
This is their first couple'sthing. And it's.
And you can seewhere they're being triggered.
And he he wasn't able to express it,
but he was obviously feeling rejectedbecause she didn't kiss him
in front of people,but also bring that up to her.
Why are you bringing it up to the boys?
Like, bring it up to her? Like,this is the thing.
And I think this is a problemin a lot of couples.

(29:58):
I think that
people need to learn how to communicate.
Yeah.
And agree and the way that he was talkingto them was a conversation
that he could have had with her,and the problem would have been solved.
She could have been like,oh my God, I'm sorry.
Like, if that's what you want,I will kiss you in public

(30:18):
because that's all he wants, right? Yeah.
So if they're coupled up,why can't she just kiss him in public
and even, like when she picked himat the end when they were on the fire pit.
She was like looking at himlike waiting for him to like
look down at her and give her a kiss.
And it never happened.

(30:39):
Oh because she clearly said to himshe wasn't comfortable.
She. There they were.
They at first they weren't listeningto each other at all.
She was talking over himwhen he was trying to tell her what he
how he was feeling.
He wasn't he wasn't articulating itlike I felt rejected.
This is this is like therapy talks.You got to go to therapy.
You know it.

(30:59):
But like, he was not able to articulatewhen you wouldn't kiss me.
It hurt my feelings because I was feeling.
I felt rejected by. Yeah, right.
And then that would have been her spaceto then be like,
this is my personal comfort.
And I did this thing,and I think it's coming from a place
where I was with
Jeremiah, and I was really open,and then it all got thrown
back in my face, and everyone hated mefor, for, like, a really traumatic week.

(31:22):
Yeah.
And, so I just feel like thatthey're both feeling.
It's feeling things and they're bothnot talking about it with each other.
But when they last had their talkbefore the fire, she said
she told him she wasn't comfortablekissing in front of other people.
And like that was after he talked to her.
Maya, he talked to Maya.

(31:42):
Am I gave him some insight.
Then she went and talked to herto which was, I think, a really smart move
because they're clearly not ableto talk to each other.
So let's get the middleman involved.Correct?
Well, the most articulate middleman,but a good friend of mine
give great advice,and I think that's why people love her.
But I never expected that, by the way.
But yeah,she gave really great. And she did.

(32:02):
And no one expected it.
And I felt like that was likeanother feather in the cap.
Yeah.
But like I feel like that's whyshe was looking at up at him to get a kiss
and that moment, because now she wants it.
But she just communicated to him she didn't want it and he respected that boundary.
Yeah, maybehe was feeling a little stubborn about it.
Maybe he was doing it out of spitea little bit.
But it felt like that.

(32:23):
But he respected the boundary still,and I think and again, maybe,
maybe she could have communicated like,hey, I said, hey, can you give me a kiss?
Yes, she could have. Yeah.
So it's on, it's all on.
It's all on them communication style.
On both of them. It'sall on communication.
Back to Shelly and Chris.
So I think Shelly
I think Chris was in there for Shelly
in the casaand oh, from day one from day one.

(32:46):
And he quickly sawthat she was playing games
and wasn't like actually giving himattention.
He's not Austin.
He wasn't falling for that shitfor for a couple of weeks.
She literally had Austinlike wrapped around her finger.
Yeah.
The most touching and intimacy they did
was he would, like, put his head on hershoulder for a minute or hug her.

(33:06):
And this guy was just like, I
delusional is the word I want to use,because every time
that he was in the confessional,he was like, oh my God,
Shelly and I like our connectionis just like, it's so great.
Like like, you know, like I love her.
And I'm like, bro.
Like the producerswere really helping her out on that.

(33:27):
I think it was a combination of Austingets to fuck everything he wants
to fuck, usually right away.
Being in Florida, pool boy,that's over a certain height.
I think he like gets tail easily.
And I think that getting into the houseand seeing a total knockout
like her, he's like, oh,I got to step up my game.
I got to do something different.
And the fact that she wasn't giving himanything made him want it more.

(33:50):
And because we've had a lot of competitiveguys in the house this season,
like a lot of what I would like more alphatype guys,
they're playing passive games,but it's 2025 and they're probably afraid
of doing the wrong thingand getting canceled.
So I think that they'rethey're competitive.
And I think that pair that with thethought about what
his producer handler is saying to himabout his relationship with Shelly.

(34:14):
They want to make a love triangle.
They want they ultimately wanted Shellyand Ace to win.
Yeah, by bringing them in.Because how could you not? Day one.
When I saw them, I was like,oh, they're so perfect and beautiful.
I want them to win.
That was my first initial instinctwith Ace and Shelly.
I was like, oh she's Holly Bailey,like I want her to win.
She's gorgeous.
Who is Nick coupled up with to start.Yeah.

(34:36):
Cuz Sierra was a bombshell. Yeah.
How could we forget this.It was Bell Dasha.
Bell.
Dasha remember Nick was paired with Bell.
Dasha from Hawaii, the coffee shop girl.
Yeah.How could we forget about Bell Dasha?
She was so cute.
She was cute and she was probably like,age appropriate and IQ appropriate.
She was cute, but I was like, girl, like,

(34:58):
if you're not here to, like,make out like all these other people are,
you're going to have to go home.
She shocked everyone when she came outand started making out
with everybody in that one challengewhen her ass, it was very tryhard.
It was super childish, like I'm about togo, so like I'm just going to try my best.
She also just didn't come uplike the person that had like a I'm going

(35:19):
to say this really respectfullybecause she's beautiful
and she's a lot of other thingsgoing for her.
But like conversations with her didn'tseem like deep and interesting at all.
Yeah, I mean, I saw I mean, she's young,she's she's
still got Sierra and Nickare a great couple for each other.
I don't think thatthey'll stay together at all.
But I do think, likethey're actually a great pair.

(35:39):
They're both travel influencers.
Yeah, they both run with different crewsand go all over the place and
take pictures.
Like Nick travelswith a bunch of surfer boys.
And he's visited like 40 something
countries, like, that's his heris a big little party raver girl.
Yeah.
And she travels to and she's all aboutlike dressing multicultural on her IG.

(36:01):
Okay. Multicultural.
Yeah.
There's like Bollywood influencein her fashion and stuff like that.
So I think she's like she pullsfrom international styles and I think
like those that those two people seem likethey go really well together.
Okay. You know. Yeah.
Sorry. I'm just like,what do you think of her?
What do you think of herapology yesterday that came out?

(36:24):
I feel like,
It felt more like a,
I fucked up, I felt like eating cardboard.
It just.
It was exactlywhat the publicist told her to say.
And does she have a publicist?

(36:45):
I'm sure she had someone at leastby the hour write her that statement.
I mean, it feels it. Feel it felt genuine.
I will say itdidn't sound like it was in her voice.
It didn't sound authentic,
I just but also like,I don't think anything
she was going to saywould have satisfied me.
So I'm happy she made the right statement.
Yeah, but I'm not like a Sierra fananyway.

(37:08):
I mean, I feel okay, I
it's just like, I don't know, she just.
It's a sticky subject.
Like,I don't want to like, you know, okay.
You don't want to step in it.I'll say this.
I personally don't like people
that it's one thing to make a mistakeand someone corrects you.

(37:30):
But I don't like people that double downwhen someone corrects you.
So, for example,
I've worked in environments where peopleuse terms that are outdated, correct.
And I've been presentwhen someone else has corrected them.
And I've seen people double down defend
what they said as opposed to say,you're right, I shouldn't have said that.
And so and so I don't respect that.
So when I saw the text come outthat someone like DM turned and said,

(37:53):
we don't use that term anymore.
And her response on there, yeah,I was like, so act.
And so she did it again, right? Yeah.
And then she did it again. Yeah.
I mean, when you do that, it's likeobviously I think you're in the wrong and
you just got to
have a learning mindsetand yeah, learn to grow.

(38:14):
But I also feel likethe internet is a very, very harsh place.
So yeah, I'm not defending bullying.
And like it's yes,it gets to a point where like
I get it, you want to get your message
across, but when,when do you get your message across. And
like give the other person
some kind of like hope and respect?

(38:38):
Can I tell yousort of like, yeah, no one is ever going
to get that in this countryunless people start voting for education
and universal health carebecause there's too many sick. Fox.
Yeah, that have access to the internet
that are going to be angry and projecting
whatever they're going through on peoplethat are in the spotlight.

(38:59):
Yeah, it's never going to end.
It's been a problem for housewivesfor like a decade now.
It's it's insane.
While the, the even like even as simpleas like the I if you are on
if you're a Real Housewife,there's a high likelihood
the IRS is going to be doinga heavy investigation on you,
like by stepping out and doingsomething like that.
People have your eye, their eyes on you,and there's so many toxic people

(39:21):
in this countrythat don't have access to proper
health care, medication, therapy.
Yeah, like or basic education that they'renot going to be able to be doing,
like the mental acrobaticsof why they feel
some way about some way they're just goingto send the fucking death threat.
Well, and it's like,so I just feel like it's a weird place.

(39:42):
I feel like we're shouting into a voidwhen we talk about cyberbullying because
it's like.
It's like being a social justice warrior.
It's like,don't do this, you guys. Well, yeah.
The people I'm posting toaren't the people doing it.
But the whole cancel culture, like it's
just like it's gone into a pointwhere, like, it's just too extreme.
Like I think cancel culture is over.
It's way too extreme.

(40:03):
No, everyone's everyone comes backfor there's no cancel culture anymore.
Like. And that's where I'm getting atwith Sierra.
It's like, okay, we get to a point where
she she did what she did. She said what?
She said.She's got more followers than ever.
She's fine now.
She's at 744 yesterday.
Thought she's getting she's fine,she's fine.
She said what people wanted her to say.

(40:25):
Her audience and they're good. Yeah.
So I think I don't think she's canceled.
I really don't, I don't think that the,the actions that a lot of people took,
sending whatever they sent was justified.
They've been doing it all season.
Ariana talked about it on Aftersun.
There's been like so many moments
where they're like, cyberbullyingis not condoned, but like the people

(40:47):
that they're talking to,like they're top 20% of their audience.
Aren't the people sending those things.
It's like the crazies that wantto just jump on in steam pile stuff.
Where are they? Where do they live?
Where do you think they live?
I mean, they're everywhere. They are.
They're everywhere.
Because I will go.
And like,if I see if I'm on TikTok, yeah, I'll go.

(41:07):
If I see someone's crazy thing,I'll tap their photo.
I'll see if they post anything.
Most of them are just rip postersand commenters.
They don't actually shareanything about themselves.
But if you're lucky,you get a little picture.
You can tell a lot from lookingat that little picture.
See, I don't use TikTok, so like, I,I don't like
I can't TikTok'sokay, TikTok is pretty censored.
Like if you use certain words on TikTok,

(41:30):
like if you say loser, if you say anythingnegative, it gets flagged.
Really, I have to, yeah,I have to go through comments
and if things are flagged and I get to seewhat people said that it flagged.
So TikTokactually is pretty good censorship.
Okay,I think it's Twitter or X or whatever
the fuck they call itthat's known for being the worst.
And I think Instagram's pretty bad becausemost of the population's on there, too.

(41:52):
I think those are liketwo really bad places and Reddit.
Reddit's crazy
people are crazy on Reddit.
Another social thing I don't I'm notperusing, but I see people share stuff.
Yeah, and lose Instagram.
It's like my my social.
Well, yeah.
Anyway, so they're everywhere
and they're obviouslynot living a great life because

(42:13):
as you know, happy peopleliving great lives aren't sitting online
like writing shit like that.
Well, listen, cyber bullies,if you're out there,
they're not listening to this podcast.
Well, if you are just like,
just go to the beach, just like chill,go to just chill.
Like there's more to life.
Like there's peopledying in the world. Kim.

(42:34):
You know, like,just get your message across.
But like, also try to find a way to makethis person understand your message
and not bring them down to the ground,you know?
Yeah.
And also,while you're at it, tone your blond hair
because it's lookingcrisp and it's looking

(42:55):
discolored.
I mean, if that's the look you're goingfor by all means, but know anyway.
So that's my take on it.
I mean, I think Sierra saidexactly what she had to say on paper.
I think my question is,now that she's out and she's watching Nick
just move on with Ola Andrea,because the way a Landry is moving,

(43:15):
I know that it doesn't come offas authentic to us.
And we're all like, okay, yeah,they just want to be on the show.
But still, the things they're sayingand how quickly they're cuddling in bed
and what they're doing is like,
if Sierra wants to beon House of villains,
if Sierra wants to be picked upon another reality show
or even build her audience another 300 Kbefore the show's over, yeah,

(43:36):
she should startcalling her out on a line.
I don't think she's in a place toI don't I don't think she's in a place
to be causing any friction or like,any drama.
I hear that, I hear that, youknow, but I also think that.
I think all publicity is good publicity.
And when you're a reality starand you aren't for it,

(43:58):
she's not offering anything else.
And if you can create more dramaand conversation people,
she will grow heraudience. Yeah, completely.
And it's like when cable for the wrong waypart you know, it's like.
It's like when Kayla and Erinhad their fall out at the end of last
on their season.
Yeah, they are on the spin offshow in the pilot

(44:19):
episode being the primary conversationat this party.
Yeah. On Peacock.
I cannot waitbecause of that fallout like that.
And so if Sierra steps in and startssaying shit like that,
Sierra will now mightnot that there's going to be a, you know,
there could be no there could bethere won't be, but there could be.

(44:40):
She could get an invite to something elsebecause she's creating drama right now.
She's got nothing to lose right now.
She's she no one'sgoing to pick her up for anything.
I mean, there'sno festivals or anything happening either.
So it's like no one'sgoing to pick her up.
Yeah, revolveisn't going to give her a deal.
Yeah.
No, but if she creates drama
and starts conversation about okay,girl code, I thought you were my friend.

(45:03):
And now you're, like, cuddling my man.
The day after I get kicked outand you were making out with them
and talking to Hodaabout being a good girls girl.
Yeah. What the fuck? Like.
And you guys are making outso much of your makeup
was all over his face,and he sat back and said he liked it,
and he called it the most beautiful girl.

(45:23):
And it's like,you know what I'm saying? Entire world.
Yeah, I'm just saying,if I was her manager and I was like,
I would tell her her crossroads, I'd say,you can feed off into the Sunset Sierra
after this incident,or you can risk it all because what
what's the worstthat could happen at this point?
She's already getting death threats.
Yeah, she's alreadygetting like she's already at a loss.

(45:43):
The worst that could happen
is she's already getting death threats,so, like, she could just die.
No, she's not going to die,you know what I'm saying?
I like you're carrying the mic.
But you know what I'm saying?
If I was your manager, I'd be like,listen, honey, you've got two options here
because she's not going to or,you know, the other.

(46:05):
If she doesn'twant to feed off into the sunset,
what she going to start nonprofit? Like,what is she going to go do?
I do feel like she's goingto do an interview with like, someone
and then she's
and then she's going to talk aboutthe whole fucking around Europe thing.
I don't know, but like, I don't I don'tthink she's going to go like on Instagram.
Like I don't thinkshe's like an interview.
I don't think she wantsto address it anymore.

(46:25):
I think she's only going to stepin her own shit.
I think after that statement
anyway, if it was me,
that's what I would tell herto do as a reality TV expert.
Okay, serious.
Not fucking around.
Like, look, you could either be saying,take this advice, Sierra.
You should. Honestly, I would go for it.
You're listening to this.

(46:45):
Landryis just going to go back home to the farm,
take your ten minutesand try to elevate that brand girl.
Because you're an L.A. girl,and I know you're.
That's what you're going for.
I don't think Orlando is going backto the farm girl like that.
That woman is going to get.
She doesn't have a man. So many deals.
She does. Maybe.
Hopefully she gets a makeupdeal. Fenty. Call her.
She needs some concealer.

(47:06):
Fancy.
Call them. Maya I know I saw.
Yeah, I love that.
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure Alondra is goingto be working with Megan Thee Stallion.
Doing something together for sure though.
Model. Yeah, but that's a one time gig.
They'll fire out to.
Model, sure, but next seasonshe's they're going to be forgotten.
I don't know, she's going to be forgotten.
She's the one girl that I feel like is notgoing to be forgotten from the season.

(47:28):
She'll have followers,but I just don't know where it's going.
I mean, the world's her oyster to
the world.
It's everyone's oyster. Not just hers.
No. Landry's got a nice oyster.
It's a nice fat oyster.
Oh, she's got looks.
She's got body.
She's got she's got a opinion.
She can articulate itlike she's got things going for her.

(47:51):
I didn't think Sierra was going to leavewith Nick anyway, though.
Nick and Austin.And guess what? She did it.
I know Nick and Austin are there
because they just like our kids
and candy shops, and they just want to,like, taste every lollipop there.
They're orgy guys for sure. Yeah.
And the second that Nickgets out of that house

(48:11):
and he opens his IGand sees all the DMs from all these women
and men in Americathat are trying to get it in myself.
You wouldn't have been loyal to anybodyhe had left the house with.
Oh, man, you know. Yeah,
I could see Ace and Shelly actually
like continuing their relationshipoutside the villa.
You mean the relationshipthat they had outside of that?

(48:33):
Yeah. And then maybe, like. Exactly.
And maybe, like a year in, she gets sickof his young boy shit and leaves.
That kid is young.
He's I, I could never like
what legal to drink for a year.
Like think about that.
Think about 22 man.
Like you know you knowyou know that Instagram app or that filter
where like, you change your faceto like a little baby face like that.

(48:57):
Every time I see a that's what I see.
Like I see this like he got heart.
He gives Kevin Hartlike he loves to be fit.
He is like he's got all these niecesand nephews in these cute little videos.
He does the dancing thingwith the guys from Pakistan.
Like that's cool. That's funny.
I get Kevin Hart does that. Yeah, yeah.
Oh I don't follow him on Instagram.
Oh I don't either.

(49:17):
But youthere's videos of like his dance company.
Oh even seen it.
No I'm going to show you rightnow. Hold on. My god.
So that's ACS Dance School.
That was, that was an experience.
That's why I'm telling you,he gives Kevin Hart like. That's funny.
It's it's comedy material.
I'm sure he's
paying all of those guys, Babarand everybody to show up the bar like,
because they try.

(49:37):
I was going to get someone pregnant. Yeah.
I was like, it's funny.
Put that away.
It all fits to his like, brand, you know?
Okay, I haven't seen him rapping though.
I keep hearing the rapping thingthat I've never seen.
I've never seen a rap. I thought that'swhat I thought I knew. That's
that's what I heard he
was good at, but I heardI mean, he said he was a dancer, right?
Like, Yeah.
But what kills me is there was a like,not seen before moment

(50:01):
that was shared on Aftersunand it was like
the girls were all at the tableand they all started freestyling.
And a couple of them were really good.
And then ace was next and he was like,oh no, not me, not me.
I'm not ready. Y'all are too good.
And then didn't didn't rap.So I'm like, if you're going to rap,
I thought he'd flexlike that was his moment.
Maybe not on national TV.
He wasn't ready for I guess not.

(50:23):
Producers like almost didn't show it to.
It's like I got TikTok videosthat I'm working on.
Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So no.
But so I think, like,I think I could see them like they
especially in a seem very career orientedand I could see them taking
this out of the housefor a little bit longer for sure. Yeah.
Because they seem to have a good workingrelationship.
They're good scene partners.

(50:43):
But I'm not like you know I don't know.
It's just weirdto me I think. So when Chris
was like there and interested in Shelley,
I think she was really havinga paradox moment where she was like,
I was supposed to go all the way with ace.We have this game plan.
We have the storylinethat we're working on.
I really was hopingthat she was gonna switch it up. Me too.

(51:03):
I was like, I would have given.
I would give it to us.
I would have been rooting for her so hardif she did.
Oh my God,I would have been rooting for Shelly
because it's like, for once,you stay true to yourself
as if she doesn't wantthe professional athlete.
That's six seven.
Come on.
Like, girl, he picked you up and like,tossed you around.
Like, who doesn't want that?
She's crazy.

(51:24):
She's crazy.
You're like, I don't 0672 tall.
I mean, like, I don't I don't.
The six seven is like really tall.
I'm five, I'm five six.
His life expectancy is short.
Actually, I'm five five,but he that's like a sore neck.
Now he's he's a pro.
I would never bewith a professional athlete.
Yeah. There's cheaters.
So maybe she's smart not to do it.

(51:44):
Do you think our professional athletesare cheaters? Yes.
Well you worked in ESPN.
I did like you.Yeah, and I worked in hockey.
And of all the sports, I thought,like, well, they travel a lot, right.
So it's like, yeah, I mean but it's also
it's just like it's it.
Look at our friendAlexandria. It's just man.
Let's just man look at her.

(52:05):
Look at our friend Alexandria,a friend of the Meet My Friends podcast.
Alexandria loves a front man.
Any guy in the spotlight, Alex is goingto get, like, a quiver for this person.
She's like, oh, I love a front man.
I love a stand up comic.I love the lead singer.
That's like her vibe.
So many women are like that.
They want because that's like a prize.
It's a it's an old school peacockingmy pedestal, you know what I mean?

(52:28):
Like he's look at it.
He is worthy because multiple people sitand watch and admire him.
That's what pro athletes are. Okay.
And then certain point when so many people
are throwing themselves at you,a man's not going to say no.
So when I worked in professional hockeyand I thought,
oh, like, hockey players are different.

(52:48):
It's not like basketball or football.
Like the clout is not as there boywas I wrong.
These guys would walk their wivesand kids to the parking lot,
come back in, pick up their side pieceand walk out the other door.
Oh my God,I'm watching every game you win.
Even the ones I thought that were likebeen in their marriage 30 years.

(53:08):
You never filmed anything and sold itto TMZ or anything like that.
No girl, you could have been worse.
Their wives probably knew.
Their wives probably know.
They're probably like, yeah,I don't want his ass. Anyway.
I feel like I feel like going into,I mean, marrying an athlete
like you kind of got to knowwhat you're getting yourself into.
But again, maybe, maybe,maybe Shelley knew that.

(53:30):
Maybe Shelley knew and was like, no,not playing that game.
But again,it all comes down to communication.
But she was bothered.
She was bothered when had a
started building a connection with himand you could see it,
but she couldn't like say she was botheredbut like why were you bothered.
Hoda was single and she was like,and that's what she said.

(53:51):
Like Sicked or Elantra on the whole thing.
Like she went invented to all Andrea.
Yeah. And allAndrea was the voice about it.
That was pretty shady to likethat was not your place to like.
No, it was disgusting.
Say anything about that kissor anything like that.
Especially when you kiss Nick to that.
None of you guys, that'snone of you guys talked about.

(54:12):
It really is.
That's my ultimate piss off of the season.
Is that
we nevergot to see her pay for her actions.
She just keeps getting rewarded.
She keeps getting protected and saved andshe don't know what we're getting today.
You're right.
But it might be going on,but I don't care at this point.
She should be going home today.

(54:32):
They're going to in the show honestly,like I was,
I do not care who wins I don't I want themI had a win.
I'm actually serious.
I think she's the only oneand maybe Hoda that have gone in
and really given themselvesto the experience.
Yeah.
And they've been openand they've gone through the trials
and tribulations, butthey've been authentic to who they are.

(54:53):
I think those two peoplehave actually demonstrated
what I think I designateas the winner of this season.
I think that changes season to season,but this season, that's what I think.
Okay, today's Thursday, which means that,
we're going to,
let me see where they're eliminatingsomeone today.
Yeah.
So what I,what I think is going to happen tonight.

(55:15):
Pippin. Iris,what are we going to get eliminated?
And then we're going to have naked oldAndrea left,
and then we're going to haveShelly and Ace.
And who else is left?
I don't think Pepe and Irisare going to be eliminated.
I think Pepper and Irismight be eliminated.
It depends on who's voting.
If it's like if it's America's voteversus I had I think it was America's

(55:36):
vote yesterday or two days ago.
They were voting for who they should win,right?
Yeah, I but I couldn't vote for TikTok.
TikTok is pretty in favor of Irisand Pepper.
You feel like they might win?
I don't think they're going to win.
No, they're not going to win.
Okay?
So they're not going to bethey're not going to be sent home.

(55:58):
I think Nick and Landryare you think they're going to
I don't know because because TikTokis voting for them too.
Like there's this groupof people on TikTok that don't give a shit
so much that they're like standing
Nick and Andrea because they wantthey're just like, this is a wash season.
Let's just getwhat the characters we created, like,

(56:19):
that's what they're doing.
Give us what we want.Yeah, and I'm here for it.
Yeah. I just that's who I'm voting for.
I mean, it's a you're going to.Of course I love that for you.
I honestly I like I just,I love Nick like I've just
I cannot vote for Landry after what I,what I've seen for this season at all.
She like a why like why did she even play
that she was into Taylor like she is,

(56:41):
levels and leagues above that mancompletely.
Week threemy friend Andrea says to Taylor,
so what's your day to day like?
Week three?
I'm like, that'swhat you talk about on the first date.
You find out why is she having to ask youthis on week three?
And it's like, also like, I just had totell Taylor to do everything.

(57:03):
He's literally like,you got to do this, man.
You got to do this, man.
And then he doesn'teven do anything on his own.
The first kiss he had outsideof a competition with Landry was like
this stagedance thing that ace helped him do.
Like, he did the same thing with Clark.
They did like a cheer, and he asked herto, like, be exclusive with him.
Like it's always they did a picnic.
Taylor is a little boywho is not comfortable

(57:28):
or even has the capacityto have a relationship
with someone,let alone talk to somebody one on one.
That's why when he found Clark,I feel like
they were perfect for each otherbecause she's also very, like, quiet.
And just like
Will Clark
grabbed a life vest,she was like, getting out of the villa,
like the Casa situation, and was like,I could ride with this guy, you know?

(57:51):
It'll be cute, will be a vibe.
But I don't think she's,like, into him at all.
It sounds like she is, though.
Like the way she talks about himin the confessionals and stuff.
Like she's playing itgood and I love good, I love her.
I saw this cute edit.
So this cute clip,
that was like My Little Pony,mixed with Love Island.
And it was Amaya.

(58:12):
It was like thisbubbly pink My Little Pony.
And then there was this, like goth,like sultry like, like two words
spoken like My Little Ponyand a sweet Clark.
And it was like Amaya going like, Clark,come sit with me.
What's your favorite color?
And Clark's like, black.
And then it cuts to, like,the My Little Pony thing.
I'm like, now, I love Clark.
Yeah, I love her, I love her,I love her, and I like her energy,

(58:36):
but I don't buy that.
She's like looking at Taylor drooling.
She reminds me of me like,
it's like we just have, like,a very, like, much resting bitch face.
And people are always like, Clark wants togo to the fucking rodeo every weekend.
No, exactly.
Like, absolutely not. Exactly.
That woman does not want to be wearingcowgirl boots.
No. Clark should be with a Chris.
Another professional athlete like.

(58:57):
Yes, yes, I don't know.
I again I feel like thisthis season like other cast
seeing like it just it wasn'tI don't know it wasn't great.
It was a great it wasn't great.
I think they're going to bring itnext season.
I think they knowthey going to make up for it.
And they're like,
well, what I heard is that they're filminga season right after this one.
They've already been casting.They were just in San Diego.

(59:19):
Yeah, because they,
they built
this house and this seasonwas a lot shorter than last season.
But they have like this placefor like 2 or 3 months.
So they're trying to film another seasonwith I would love that while they catch.
Yeah.
That that'd be so great for the summer.
So I think we're getting another seasonright after this season finishes.
Okay.

(59:39):
What do you think about Brian with Maya?
I actually thinkthey're kind of compatible.
I don't know if they can go the distance,
but it also, I thought that about Jennyand Kenny last season.
Yeah. And they surprised me.

(59:59):
I don't think they're together anymore,though. Right.
Or are they.
Because on the showthey're teasing it on the show.
Their teasing like they're like fightingand stuff and like not.
Yeah, they're teasing it.
I don't know, I don't follow like LoveIslanders like offline that intently. But
but even still, they were togetherway longer than I expected.
Yeah.
So that's like I'm sayingthat surprised me because again,
that's an age gap,kind of like Cheli and, Ace.

(01:00:22):
Yeah.
Like, Jenny is older than Kenny, soI didn't actually expect that to work out.
But it it did for a while.
Lee and Miguel were in the restaurantdining the other day.
I love thatthey're really cute together, too.
Oh, that's so cute.
Wait a minute there.
Oh, God, they're so hot.

(01:00:43):
Yeah, they were so tall in person.
I was like, okay,what do I think about Brian?
I didn't like him in the beginning.
And then when he stood up and like,
you know, said something for Amaya, like,I was like, okay.
Yeah. Respect. Yeah,I was like, dude, fuck yeah. Good for you.
I don't think they're compatible.

(01:01:06):
Like, I feel like
again, everyone this season just like,coupled up
to be coupled up, you know, like,just like, make it to the end.
Like,
I don't think there's any connectionsbetween, like, any of the people that are
coupled up or anything like that.
But I,

(01:01:28):
I this is the thing I saw.
I went out on Maya's Instagramand I was like, wow,
this woman is like, stunning.
Yeah, she's little Miss New York,like, beautiful.
Like her pictures on her Instagram.
Yeah. Let's see.Oh, I looked at the other day.
Her skin is great.Her makeup is great. Her hair.

(01:01:48):
What's crazy too, is if you were in,what if you hadn't seen the show?
And youand you just go on this woman's Instagram,
you would not expect her to be the personthat she is, you know?
Or like the characterthat she's giving us on the show, right?
But like, I, I was just mesmerized.
I was blown away.
I was like, am I straightor am I everyone's my friend?

(01:02:13):
I call it the Rainbow Spectrum.
Well, I'm never get it, but that's fine.
She made me feel some type of way.
I was like, wow,this woman is like beautiful. Yes.
With that being said, I don't feellike she's compatible with Brian.
Yeah, I think she's having a good time.
She's having a great time.
I think it's his beard.I don't know, like, literally.

(01:02:35):
I think it's his beard.
Like,I, he needs to, like, trim in the beard.
It's like,do something with it. I'm not joking.
That is my thing with Brian is his beard.
It's his beard. It's making me crazy.
I think if we redid his hairand his beard,
a lot of these guys, like.
Like I said with Ellen, I was like,if he just took that little, like,

(01:02:56):
curly, fuzzy peach fuzzthat he has on his little chest,
let's take a little trimmer there.
Yeah. Like, oh my God, what a sexy man.
Yeah I mean he is,but well, that's the thing about straight
men, John, is that
they always come with these flawsthat you need to correct.

(01:03:17):
Oh, and that's why they call itthe girlfriend glow up.
Because when they get in a relationship,then someone's like,
let's fix the beard, let's trimthe chest hair.
Let's just really slowlymake some adjustments.
Boom.Now you're now you're doing good. Yeah.
It's a it's a real thing.
Yeah. So I get it.
But I think it is. I hate his beard.
I think that he gets her.

(01:03:37):
And I think that they could he could be.
He's obviouslygoing to be with her until the end here.
I think they're going to win.
I think she's crazy enough to like,literally get pregnant by him
at some point.I think they're going to win.
It's only because of Amaya.
Yes, because of the way that peopleconnect and sympathize with her.
Yeah, but don't they give him an optiontoo, of, like and not share it?

(01:04:02):
Correct?
I think so, so wait,I don't really know though.
I think I think they do.
I think they do.
Because
well of course I've heardhas been we're all voting for Maya
and and whoever she's with,but we want Maya to keep it.
I don't know how that works,

(01:04:22):
but whatever.
Amaya will probably share itbecause she's a Maya.
Yeah.
Whatever.
It doesn't matter.
She has her own poppy flavor,like a Maya papaya.
And I want, like, for 4th of July.
I went looking for it.
Did you find that out yet?
I was bombed, but I'm waiting for it.

(01:04:43):
I'm going to go try it. I mean, I'mpretty sure it's going to be bomb.
I don't like papaya to be.
Doesn't matter. Poppy will make itgood. It'll be.
It's not gonna be bad.
Poppy soda. Right?
Yeah. Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Poppy, wait.
Who drinks? Poppy. What? Housewives?
I don't know, there was like,I don't know who's promoting.
What's her name?
Salt Lake city,

(01:05:05):
Lisa. Lisa Barlow, she drinks everything.
She's missed Wendy's.
She's been doing so many promos for Poppy,I love it.
Okay, so we covered them. We covered.
Okay.
Hoda, what do you think Qatar's futurelooks like?
Mommy,
mama! Caesar!
Mom of a dog.

(01:05:25):
Do you have a dog?
Like, I don't know how to,
I think I think
I think Harry's gonna come out of thisshow.
Is she bad?
HUD is not a rapper, Hoda.
She should be.
She should be a O'Hara.
Night ballerina.

(01:05:46):
A okay, she's night ballerina. Is she?
She's a ballerina.
She's a I like, she's a fitness instructora night ballerinas
like a really pissy way of saying that.
She's like she strips or she strips.
Oh, this wayshe can twerk the way she can twerk.
Girl, girl, that booty is like,yeah, that's her.
That's kind of like a little bit of herrumored history.
All of these girlson this show have, like,

(01:06:09):
this,
like, but that's, like, out of control.
They. Yeah, they're all
big and, like, round, round and like,they're all shaped different,
but they're all just, like, big.
I know they were literally like.
And look how
they were all looking over the balconyat the boys racing with the babies.

(01:06:30):
Yeah.
And they were all in thongs.
And I was like, it's like a horse stable.
We're literally no for real.
I was like, like, are we at the stables?
What is happening right now? Yeah.
That was yeah. No, no.
Literally, literally.
And we mean thatin the most flattering way.
They're gorgeous.
Like like their calves are like,hey, for those.

(01:06:52):
But in.
So she might be into fitness.
She's a fitness instructor.Yeah. Which I've, which I've heard.
But I'm saying like she has that history.
So wouldn't it be coolif she could be like Cardi B, that shit
she can Cardi B and become a rapper nowbecause it's this is a better platform
than what was the show loveand hip hop that she came up on?
I don't know, I feel like she's goingto go on this whole like

(01:07:14):
self-discovery journey.
If she started online fitness stuff,though, I would follow it.
You would.
You would follow her.
Yeah, yeah,I'd follow her on her workouts.
I could see her and Chrishaving like a spin off.
I'd be great.
I'd love to watch them go to Europe.
Why Europe?
Because he's playing ball in Europe. Oh.
Like Spain.

(01:07:36):
Maybe there's a team in Spain.
There's teams all over and you get paida salary over there to play.
I just said Spain
because I feel like that's where a lot of,like, pro ballers are providers.
Go and play. Yeah, yeah.There's some teams.
Not that I playbut I've heard of it. Yeah. You know.
Yeah I think I was straightwhy they does that too.
Pepe is alsoPepe is also a basketball player.
People love Pepe I love PepePepe has a type and it's blonds,

(01:07:59):
blond, blue eyes.
I'm kind of bummed because I think Pepeand Hannah really had some Pepe and
Hannah.
I feel like when they connected,I was like, you guys are my couple.
Yeah,you guys are going to make it to the end.
And when was like a little dumpling.Her little.
When those girls eliminatedHannah, I was pissed.
And Hannah said, what the fuck?

(01:08:20):
I was like,you tell them, bitch. Like I was pissed.
I was so upset.
And that's when I knew that Shelly
and Ace were planned to winlike they were eliminated.
If you're a real couple, you're going,that was the or Hannah Pepe.
You're goingif you're TJ and Iris, you're going.
Any opportunity they had to cuta real couple with real chemistry out.
They did.
Yeah.
And I too I think get for going forwardin the season.

(01:08:42):
Get rid of the prize money.
Get rid of it. Because the cloud iswhat they're all there for anyway.
You don't need 100 K.
And then I thinkthere should be a second house.
Hear me out. Here's the twist.
Oh plot twist.
There's a second house.
And I haven't decided yetif the if the the people in the villa know
when they get eliminated from one house,they get to go to a new house, okay?
Or if they don't know, I thinkthere's an advantage to them knowing

(01:09:05):
because thenif they're not finding connections
in this house, the grass could be greenerand they could opt to go at the other,
the other casa.
But if you get kicked out of that casa,then you're going home.
Home.
So people could optto move to the other casa,
and then you could use thoseto cross-pollinate with new bombshells
and then bring them together for the Casaepisodes.

(01:09:26):
What would you call the other Casa?
I don't even know.
I don't know,I I'd have to think about that.
Okay. The branding has to be right.
Yeah, because you already got customer,which is like right there, right?
Maybe. I don't know Casa.
There's the villa, maybe it'swe've got a villa, we've got a casa.

(01:09:49):
What else is there.
Is there another word? Townhouse.
I'd say townhouses.
I don't know, apartments above the meadow.
It's a little bit.
Oh, I kind of like that.
No, but, like, you know what I'm saying?
So that way, like, there'skind of a little bit more of, like,
I don't know, I'll open. Yeah,I feel like.

(01:10:10):
But I feel like Amayaactually is going to save the next season
because now the influencersthat are getting cast to go
in this fucking thing are like,oh wait, America wants authenticity.
Like Amaya, I'm going to be realand I'm going to be me.
So I think the next season'sgoing to be good regardless,
because they're seeing what Americansliking and what they're not liking.

(01:10:31):
And and these people that go into theseshows, they watch for this shit.
Yeah.
Because they do want to go in
and compete and like,win America's affection and have a career.
I'm interested to see what next season'sgoing to look like just because, like
I said, last seasonleft a really big staple on like America.
And this one, it's it's leaving oneand in the worst way.

(01:10:52):
Not like in a good way. You know,like people are like not happy with it.
I'm also because
Ariana Maddox's contract is up.
And we really need her
to be the host of the show,because what she brings to the table
is like these great little digs and jabs,and her opinion always matches

(01:11:13):
what I think when she goes on Aftersunand shares how she's thinking,
she is like, oh, Lindsay,she is my voice on that show.
I can't have her not there.
Not only is she, like beautiful,but like that is me.
Like, thank you all.
You know what I mean? Like, so.
And she gets these little momentsin the house
where she, like, finds ways to get in.

(01:11:33):
Like when TJ was dissingevery girl in the villa,
the new Casa girls, her little comment,she was flat, and he was giving them all
low scores like she called him out andthen feel like shit for it and like, good,
but I can't.
I'm going to tell you,I don't think some Love Island alumni
or some Australian
or UK host is going to come inand do the same shit that Ariana's doing.

(01:11:55):
She's giving that that'sa little bit of the USA that I like.
I wonder how much she'sgetting paid per episode.
Let'stake a quick break and we'll find out.
Okay.
Okay, so there's no for sure answer,
but the variety article that I just sawthat was kind of giving specs and numbers

(01:12:16):
for contestants and hosts said that,most of the Vanderpump crew
was making somewhere between, like, aroundlike, 25,000 an episode,
on their respectiveshows at a certain point.
So let's say she's making like 30 Kan episode or something like that.
Yeah, she probably,
you know, it's it's probably rolled inbecause she's doing so many.
She only does like what,two appearances a week.

(01:12:36):
She does like an after Sun appearanceand she comes into one recoupling episode
or maybe two.
It depends on how many recoupling episodesthey're doing or competitions.
Maybe she does two episodesplus in Aftersun that's three.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
That's pretty good money for the few weeksthat she's out there
and and she gets to stay in FijiI mean and it's probably paid for.
The Love Island UK said thatthe girls on average leaving Love Island

(01:12:59):
make somewhere between 20to 30 K in sponsorship deals
like the first few monthsout of the house.
That stuff all declines though,because like your shelf life is short.
And that's why I told youSierra needs to create drama.
She won't do it.
Anyone that we didn't talk about, Iris,
a natural beauty from Santa Monica,la native Adele.

(01:13:21):
She was from Newport.
I don't know.
I maybe she's just giving Newport vibes.
I think she just giving Newport vibes.She said she's from Santa Monica.
She's a very Californian girl like you.
Look, you see her and you're like,oh, you look like you're from California.
Yeah, like blond beach.
Beach girl. She really gives me color.
She really gives Beach Girl blond,like Abercrombie beach girl.

(01:13:41):
Yeah.
I mean, she's cute.
I don't know, I just.
Who are we forgetting about?
Iris?
We were talking. Was Iris.
I know how there's just like.
No, there's just, like,no backstory to her.
I know, I feel like she's authenticallyherself, so kind of like Clark.
Like they're just who they are.They're not trying to showboat.
Yeah, they're not trying to be somethingthey're not.

(01:14:01):
I think it was surprising that her and pepare building a connection, but
that's also why her and ClarkI feel like connected towards the ad.
Like in the ad when Clark on Eliminator,she's like, I love you.
You're my girl.
I like they're like, the whole timeshe's like,
hugging her and like, being close to her.
And I was like, oh, wait,y'all are cute. Like, I could see that.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
Jeremiah.
How did you feel when he got eliminated?

(01:14:23):
Okay.
Jeremiah is just toxic model.
Like, he's just like, one of these guysthat I know is a working model.
And is toxic as hell.
Yeah,I mean, he there's a reason that him.
And to like, we're getting into itand he like
as somebody who had a past partnerthat was like a void.
It had some avoidant attachment stufflike I could see it like

(01:14:47):
and it's so triggeringand it's really frustrating
and I just frankly don't care for peoplewith those problems.
I don't deal with them.
Yeah. And I don't think he's anywhere neargetting help for it.
So he's just going to keep going.
On being toxic.
I mean, I do
you do you feel like these people go backand see these, like,

(01:15:08):
see how they were being portrayedby the producers?
Like, do you think they they go back andsee the show and I think a lot of them do.
I think they all want to like,
do you think Sierra's in a room right nowwatching episode four?
Babe, I would be,I'd be watching if I was Sierra.
I would like people are definitely in herDMs and commenting and telling her about
Andrea and Nick and stuff,and she's definitely, like, aware.

(01:15:30):
I don't know if she has the emotional
strength to go watch stuff right now,but I think, like Hannah gets kicked off.
I think Hannah went and watched
the whole show. Like,I think people those people do
because this is their momentin the limelight.
This is the most celebrity momentyet in their life.
Yeah,I would like to see how I was portrayed.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know if Iwould, but I feel like you would watch it.

(01:15:50):
That's because I like, make this stuffand I know I don't like myself on camera.
Like I already know that, actually.
No, you would make it to the endand then your whole
career would just bust up, andthen you'd forget that you were on this.
Probably, wouldn't you watch it?
I would, that'sbut that's because if I went on a show
like this,I'd be there to make a good fucking show.
I wouldn't want to go see. Like it. Yeah.

(01:16:12):
I think Big Brother, if you're listening,
she wants to be the Whitney in Coach.
No, but I'm just saying, like, I wouldn't.
I'm not there to watch myself on camera.
I would. I hate that
I would just be there to experienceand make it whatever it becomes.
Do you do you feel like there'sstuff on the internet,

(01:16:34):
that you've shared that,
if you were to, like, become famousor like be on a reality TV show,
it may resurface that, like,it might get you in trouble.
Well,the way we're progressing as a society,
there's so many things that we usedto think was normal.
Correct. That's no longer normal. Correct.

(01:16:54):
So statisticonly it's accurate that that could happen.
Now, have I been watching reality TVlong enough to know that I'm removing
all of my socials and going privatewhen I go on the show,
until I get off the showand reactivate it? Yes.
Because I'm not a fool.
I've seen people go on those showsand if you're

(01:17:16):
a fan of them, people will just requestthe follow, they'll go to follow you.
They can't do it. The request, the follow.
Those people are still waiting. Correct.
You can approve them after.
There's no fucking rush. Yeah.
I can't be posting on a show anyway.
Yeah, that would be what I would do. Okay.
And then you could backtrack,delete everything, start fresh,
do whatever you want to do,depending on what year it is.
What's going on? Is the sky still blue?

(01:17:38):
You know how like,Facebook alerts you like,
something that you did last yearor something like that?
Oh, yeah.
So I always I would find myselfevery morning, like checking
in, waking up, and then I'd be like,oh, well, that was ignorant of me.
And delete.
Yeah. Oh, well,I shouldn't have said that.
Oh delete.
Yeah I believe that people like,make mistakes.

(01:18:00):
Yeah, bro.
Like I totally am. I'm not.
That's why I'm not like, I'm not aboutlike I'm not about cancel culture.
I don't think it even exists anymore.
I don't I don't think like Sierra.
That's why I say I don't think Sierrahas a problem with her career at all.
I think she should actually
be embracing the spotlight right nowand doing something. But,
I, I think it's statistically

(01:18:21):
likely, like my me dyeingmy hair could be offensive in 20 years.
People could be like,oh, you're you're posing as a redhead.
And that's offensive.
Like, I'm not joking. Like, who knows?
Yeah, I mean, it's obviouslyit's not racially driven, but like,
am I am I, I'm not impersonating a culturebecause I'm Irish.
Scottish. But you know what I mean.Like when you know what I'm saying.
Yeah. I don't fucking knowwhat the future is going to be like.

(01:18:43):
I'm sure I'm going to offendpeople dying my hair red, which I did once
I took my I took Penny as a reference cuzI literally look like my dog
I walked into,I walked into the hair salon
and I was like,I literally want this hair color.
Hi. Can you,can you match my baby and my friend?
She was like,
I've never had anyone bring their dogas a reference to match their hair.

(01:19:03):
I was like, okay, well wait,you look so good with the red hair.
I love thatit was a it was it was a choice.
It was a choice. Yeah. It was. Yeah.I didn't last long.
And then I did blue for some weird fuckingyou looks so good.
Like navy blue.
It was like, you look so good.
No, it was like like like, oh.
What color? Like turquoise. Like.
Oh, no. You would look good. Navy blue.

(01:19:25):
Like a like a navy blue.
Like navy blue like almost black.
But in the sunlight, you could see it'snavy blue.
Okay.
My friend Belinda just saidthat looks pretty cool, but I don't know.
Okay, I don't know. That's fair.
Well.
So. Yeah,that's that's my answer to that question.
Okay.
I'm sure there's the thing aboutthe internet is there's always someone's

(01:19:46):
going to be pissed and think you're stupid
and they're going to sayhorribly offensive things.
But I've learned by sharingon TikTok about this podcast
and like my opinions about reality showsand stuff like that, like it's slowly
removes the fear of people,like not approving of what you say or do.
Like, I don't give a shit.

(01:20:06):
Yeah at all.
I mean, that's if you are signing up
your life to be filmedand be broadcasted everywhere.
Yeah, I think you should knowthat things will resurface.
Yeah.
If youif you did blackface at a frat party
in 2000 like that one person like,you know what I mean?
Like, and I thinkand I think the best thing to do

(01:20:28):
is to come clean aboutthings before they resurface.
You know,
and just, like, just fucking get rid of itor get rid of it, rid of it,
just delete that shit of it or like itcomes up, you apologize like Sierra.
Yeah. Like, you know what I mean?
And some people won't be happy with it,and some people will be happy with it.
And you're not going to please everyone.

(01:20:48):
And it's just like, I'm excited.
And I think it's a positive thing becausethe world's talking about this stuff.
Yeah.
These certain racesthat have like, faced oppression
and like been these words have been usedto reference them
in a derogatory way,are now publicly being shamed.
Correct.And I see that as a positive thing.

(01:21:10):
We are moving in a direction where societyis like, that's wrong, bitch.
People should be getting called out for.
Yeah,being there's still hope in ignorance.
So I see it as a good thing. Yeah.
I mean, it's okay.
She'll be fine.
Yeah, it's going to be fine.
She's beautiful I think.
I think it's going to be great.
Sarah, if you're listening to this,

(01:21:32):
if you ever get to this, startbeef with Andrea online.
Sorry for the lingerie line, but,
no, that you are loved.
You got a community behind youthat supports you, not her friends.
They abandoned her.
Well, whoever is around youthat you feel like loves you.
And so she has no friends.She's other friend.

(01:21:53):
Hold on. These people.
What do you thinkMaya should do with her career after this?
That's what I want to talk about.
We talked about,you know, a maya's got only upward
again, a maya's alreadygetting messaged by Fenty.
I want her on traders.I don't think she'll be on traders.
Listen, can I tell you something?
Amaya on traders would be so good.

(01:22:14):
She would be an amplifier.
She would cry and screamat that roundtable
and people would get behind her
because she's authenticand sweet and cute,
and she would be very inarticulateat the table
and it would be building argumentsagainst people would be hilarious.
Yeah.
And if we could get Amaya to be a trader,that'd be even funnier.

(01:22:34):
Like Amaya killing offpeople would be so funny.
See, I haven't seen the show,so I get I get
I think it's a greatthe whole game of it, like I have,
I have like,I think ace should be on the challenge.
Okay.
I think that they probably couldthrow in like Chris.
I think if Chris is done basketball,he could go on a show
like the Challenge too,because he's a big dude.

(01:22:56):
I don't think he'd win, but ace could win.
I don't see Chris going anywhere.
Chris is already like a basketball player.
I feel like his career is focused onwhat he's doing.
If he still does it, he's five. He'sprobably going to be getting promoted.
Also, like basketball sponsorsand stuff like that.
Or like, you know,
he's not even in the NBA, I don't know.
Okay.
Well and then who else.

(01:23:17):
Futures Cheli model Andrea.
Model Amaya okay.
So if y'all having gone to her Instagram,please go to our Instagram
and look at this womanbecause I follow her, she is like
beautiful.
Like you're going to be mesmerized.
And I think that she shots in love.
She's going to likeChris is going to be angry.

(01:23:39):
No Chris, you have nothing to worry about.
She does not tickle my pickle,so don't worry about that, okay?
She almost did though.
And then who else is like, got potential?
Brian, I don't know.
I don't thinkwe're going to see much of Brian.
I don't think we're going to see much.Okay.
What about Zach?
That was with Amaya before? Brian?

(01:23:59):
He's a model over in London.
Zach with a K?
Who is even the other Zach?
Yeah, Zach with the Z.
The guy that had really cool style.
I don't know, hehe was gone so quick I didn't even.
He's a blip on my radar.
He he ended up being paired up withwhat's the girl and
Oh yeah.
What was her name?

(01:24:19):
The Mormon. Was she Mormon? Yeah.
Vote Villa Dora.
I don't know, she wasn't Salt Lake City.
Yeah. Big. Oh, yeah. She was like 21.
She's excellent.
Actually. She's a Barbie doll. Yeah.
Any who salt Lake Cityloves sack with a sealer.
I've been following him on Instagrambecause he was.

(01:24:39):
He has great style.
Very cute to look at.
Yeah, his teeth are a little too bright.
He has a really, really cool style,you guys.
He does. He's like, he's a working model.
He's friends with Miguel.
Yeah. Leah's boyfriend. Yeah.
But yeah. Another person.
Well, it's like, oh, you look really cool.
He's hot.
And I want to kind of copy your style,but you're also like six,

(01:25:01):
six feet, so, like,I'm not going to be able to, like,
have the same swag that you dobecause I'm five six.
What? That offended me as well.
Listen, I would, I would likeyou could have just as much swag
as I would hide or like,why all the cool clothes?
Your clothes would be tailored toyour body. John.
I'm sorry.

(01:25:22):
Never mind.
Okay.
You would have your.
You could wear the exact same clothes.
They just be fit to your body.You wouldn't be wearing his clothes.
He just was, like, really oversize,baggy clothes you could wear.
You could wear a smaller person.
It kind of just, like, hides you.
But you could
tailor your clothes to fit your bodyand still wear the same silhouettes.
Okay, we can try.

(01:25:43):
We can try.We could try it. We can try it.
And I'm saying if it if it looks too baggyand that's hiding you.
That's why you get it tailored in. Okay.
You know. Yeah.
You're right.
It could be slightly baggy on you.
Just not as baggy as it is on him.
Right? Right.
It could be two thirds of itand it would look great.
You can pull off a lot.

(01:26:04):
So thank thanks. You're welcome.
I don't think you even need to tell methat.
You know, I can tell you that, okay, well,this was a great like.
I can't wait for the finale. Let's.
Who do you think's going to win?Who's your vote?
Who are you voting for on the app?Okay, wait.
Top three. Like, who?
Who's third, second and first? Okay, go.

(01:26:24):
Fuck me first.
Okay. Yeah. You first.
Okay.
I think.
Amaya and Bryant are going to win.
So that's my number one. Okay.
I think Hoda and Chrisare going to come second,
And then I think

(01:26:47):
Nick and Alondra are going to be third.
Okay. I think
third place is going to be Ace and Kelly.
Okay.
Second place is going to be Nickand Andrea.
Okay. Wow.
And first place is going to be my, Brian,
I think it's literally going to be

(01:27:08):
I think that the next few episodes,
Ace and Shelly,are going to get very favorable edits.
The last two episodesthey got really favorable edit.
So they've really let their guard down andthey're being aces, being really funny.
And I think peopleare going to come back around.
There's an audiencethat's been with them the whole time,
but I think like people are goingto be like, now we really like them.
They're really beautiful people.Let's vote for them.

(01:27:30):
I think TikTok and Booktokare going to put Booktok
Booktok is like the, the, the,the women that read on TikTok.
Oh, it's a community,a sub niche community mom talk.
And they are very I hear mom talk.
They're very big supporters of Friendsto Lovers, which is a book genre
because they all read books,

(01:27:51):
so they love Nick and they're all standingthe it's a huge community.
Love that.
I need to be part of the really vocal.
And then I think the rest of TikTokis voting for Amaya.
So Brian's fucking luckyhe towed his wagon.
Yeah.
Brian, you scored because, well,

(01:28:11):
he read the room and he's been standing upfor him for Amaya.
And that fire pit scenewas a huge game changer.
If we were sports commentators right now,and we were watching that
and doing a play by play,that's like hitting a three point shot
at the end of the third quarterto tie up the game going into the fourth,
like we are literally sitting thereand we're like, whoa.

(01:28:32):
And with that,we get the wind out of Brian.
Yeah, literally.
Like it was a huge gamemove for him to be like,
whoa, like you need to meet her halfway.
This is part of our culture.
Like pet names and speaking a certain wayis like you have to understand her to.
It's not just about what you want.
You got to meet her halfway. Yeah.And that was really great.
That was a great move.Great comeback. Like.

(01:28:55):
And then when Amaya, did you notice?
Okay. I swear. And then we're going to.
But didyou notice right after she got that
like vote of confidence in the balloonpopping challenge
the next day she was wearingthe oversize muumuu.
Did you notice? Yeah.
It's like she was comfortable,finally comfortable to not be strutting
in, like a little bikini.
Little sexy.
Put her Moomoo on. It was like,I was like.

(01:29:16):
And he's like, and Brad's over here like,you look good in that little movie.
I yeah, of course.
Let me see a little bit.
So we're, I'm, we're rooting for Maya.
I think we're team of I, yeah,they're all going to be fine.
My kids are going to be all right.
I never said I was perfect,I never said I was.
I had so many flaws.

(01:29:39):
I never said I was beautiful.
Yeah,
she's out of there.
She's so iconic.
We love her.
We love a via papaya.
I hope she wins. She's gonna win.
Okay. Yeah,I think I think America's already decided.
And, you know, itkind of just like it goes to show that,
we still

(01:30:00):
kind of crave some sort of grace in life
because seeing her be so vulnerable,like men shutting her down.
Yeah, like, be, like, telling her that shewas just, like, being too much and like,
I think America's seen that.
And then voting for hergave me this, like, little spark of hope

(01:30:20):
within me where I was like,there's still grace in this world.
And like, people want to see that.
Yeah, that's whatwe're that's what we're voting for. And
it we're in a dark time right now.
But I think that, like thatlittle spark of hope really just like
gave me a little more hope in like whata beautiful note to end it on.

(01:30:41):
Yeah.
Thanks for attending this meeting, John.
Thanks for having me.
It was so nice.Hopefully we'll have you back again soon.
And thanks, everybody for attending thisweek's episode of Bravo Hawks anonymous.
Our meeting is adjournedand we'll see you next week.
Bye bye.
Have fun watching the finale.
I'm just.

(01:31:03):
Hey, you're all.
You're, You're on the air on.
Bravo, Alex. Anonymous.
Oh, my God, is it.
Oh, my God, no, I'm calling because I haveto talk to you about the winner tonight.
Winners. Oh, my God, I just finished.
How do you feel?
How do you feel about it?
I'm happy. I'm stoked.

(01:31:24):
I'm so happy.
I'm so happy for Amaya and Brian.Literally.
It's literally what I predicted.
She literally made me cry when she startedcrying because I knew she.
Brian, would make her cry.
Then I started crying.
I was like, oh, I know, like it just felt.
It just felt right.
Like none of the other couplesreally felt like
they deserved to, like, really winner,you know?

(01:31:47):
Like.
Yeah, like love Nick. All. Andrea.
But they didn't need that one.
They barely even talked about.
If they were going to likeif they were going to see each other
after they didsay they were going to explore something.
Right.
But like time from other states,you know, they didn't like, talk logistics
like the at least like Pepeand Iris and Amaya and Brian,

(01:32:09):
like were talking about plansbefore the finale episode
and it was like talking about citiesand if they'd be open, like,
I know Maya and Brian had a conversationwhere they were like talking about
who ifBrian would come to a Maya essential,
or it's easy for thembecause I think both of you
know, he's in Boston,but he said he loves New York.

(01:32:31):
He was just thereand he was like, happy to move there.
Or at least like start spendingway more time there.
No, not at all.
But Iris and Pepe are greatand they're in LA.
They're both L.A.
and fucking, you know, it's like, well,where she like, okay.
But I did not see the Hoda and Chrisbreakup coming.

(01:32:52):
Oh girl.
I was like, if they didn't break up,I was going to be pissed.
But you shut up.
You thought they were going to break upin the finale episode like that.
Gagged me.
No I don't yeah,
because the way they thoughtright before they went to bed, I was like,
if these bitches don't break upand they keep trying to play
and pretend like I'm going to be like,you're in the wrong way.
Oh, it's the wrong way.

(01:33:13):
On the on the freeway.
Oh my God.
I mean, they must have realized how scarythey must be having a how to crash out.
Straight up though, like Chris,
I liked him at first, but then he startedto get really immature really quick.
And I was like,this is really unattractive.
No, I think I see she was
she has these, like, needy tendencies

(01:33:35):
and like, he'snot willing to give it to them.
So it's like they're just not rightfor each other.
You never know.
I just
I mean, like, not to diagnose anyone,but I just think that, like, Hoda
was like, from since Jeremiah,she was triggered like her attachment
style stuff was like totally triggeredand she never really lost it.

(01:33:57):
There was like a week where it was, like,totally subdued because she was like
into getting into Chris.
But then like, I think she just started it
got flared up again,and then she started triggering his stuff
because he hadhe has some do and it was just like messy.
Yeah.
Insane.

(01:34:17):
It was crazy. Yeah. That that breaking up.
But I did think they were going to fake itlike Chris.
I thought they were going to fake it
till the cows came home, you know,just to like, smile and get through it
for the sake of like, publicityin the, in like people watching.
Oh hell no.
No one.
I've never seen that before.
A breakup on the finale, have you?

(01:34:39):
Yeah.
No, I mean, this is my first timewatching it like all the way different
than every other season withthis season is just so not genuine.
Yeah,this season did not feel genuine at all.
And there was too much pressure on you.
Just wasn't any connectionwith like anyone.
I think Iris and Poppy and Amaya and Brian

(01:34:59):
were the only oneswho had like, strong connections.
And I think the reason the reason too,it's like,
I guess we were expecting them to have,like, stronger connections because that's
what we receivedfrom the first season or season six.
It's like everybody had a relationshipfrom the beginning with someone that like,
got them all the way to the end
and like here they were just like a lotof flip flopping and like,

(01:35:22):
I don't know, Ijust think there weren't real connections.
I just don't think the only onewas really connecting each other.
Yeah, it'sit's like everybody dated each other
for like three daysand then they dumped each other.
So I don't believe that Clark and Taylorare, like, going to stay together at all.
I think they were just, like, infatuated
with each otherfor the time that they were there.
No, Clark is not into Taylor.

(01:35:43):
No, it's so obvious. I'm so sorry.
But she is not. She never was.
He just always had a position of power.
And like, she was like,okay, I'm in the love triangle.
I won the love love triangle.
So I have to stay in the love triangle.
Like, that's it.
She wasn't going toshe wasn't going to take all Andrea's man
and then like be like,actually I'm not that into you.

(01:36:05):
Yeah.
Literally the whole thing was.
So I actually feel likeI actually feel like Clark would have,
would have wanted and donewell with Chris.
Oh, maybe, I don't know.
She's been very materialistic and I,
he didn't seem likehe was into that kind of stuff.
But he also likes the way he's speak muchand she doesn't really
she doesn't speak much.

(01:36:26):
And he's a he's a pro athlete kind of.
So that he would have been likehe would be like, are you chillin?
And she would have been like, yes.
And then they would have justbeen chilling.
Yeah, they probably would have loved it.
They probably would've loved it.
But no,but he's he's got unhealed stuff to like.
So I think he just he likehe said in the beginning,
he goes after like thehe goes after he does type

(01:36:48):
like girls.
He has to fix or thinks he has to fix.
So I'm like, oh God, yeah.
I also get likeboth of their perspectives.
But yeah,they both need to work on some shit.
Yeah, yeah, I get both.
Neither of them were ableto really articulate to each other
what was important to themand what was happening,
and neither of them were willingto take any accountability at all.
Right.

(01:37:08):
Like, neither are explaining each otherwhat they expect from a partner.
I feel like at that dinnertable on their date, Chris
needed her to take accountabilityfor how she acted the night before.
Like, and how and and she would notshe wouldn't even like take that so much.
And then sheit was crazy because you could see

(01:37:29):
how like anxious she wasand how she was like resorting
to trying to connect with himphysically in bed
because she felt insecure,because he was icing her out
and like because he ices people out.
So like.
And that's so avoidant.Oh my God, I hate it.
Yeah, it was so and so.
Her anxious, her anxious stuff,her anxious stuff was like all triggered.

(01:37:50):
And then she was reacting to itand trying to get closer.
And he was like,don't mess up my sleep, blah, blah, blah.
And then she's like, he's been called,he hates me.
And then it was like spiraling from there.
She just wanted the baby.
That was it.
She just no, she didn't she wasn't horny.
She was like fucking feelinglike he wasn't into her.
Yeah, guys. The fuck it wasn't.

(01:38:12):
It wasn't like she was yearning for it.
It was literally like she was scaredthat there.
That they weren't in a good placeor as good a place as they could be.
And so she was trying to connect with himphysically.
That's what she that's how she uses love.
It's like she's kind of transactionalabout it.
Well, then she used to be like a stripper.

(01:38:32):
But I mean, that's the rumor.
But but no one knowsbecause like, the couple people
that came outand said that everyone in, like,
on the internet jumped on their throatand was like, you don't like people
for doing those jobs,blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And then it got real quiet about it after.
So it's like unconfirmed and
I mean,I missed you though, but I believe it

(01:38:53):
because that girl can shake itlike enough to make some good money.
Everyone saw her come down on fireball,like, let's be real.
Like we saw that shit.
Yeah, but yeah, I just thinkthat whole situation was really dark.
And I wonder if the producers made himgo back to get her.
Yeah, that's what my friend Simon said.
My friend Simon was like,they sent him back and I was like, I.

(01:39:16):
I thought it was crazy.
I think. No, I think he didn't.
Okay.
So I think wanted him to fight for her.
I think she was like trying to let him go,like dump him and have him be like, no,
like I want to stay together.
And then.
But it didn't go that way for her.
He just accepted it.
And then she was like pissed about it.
And then she stood there and she's like,she kept trying to get him to carry her.

(01:39:37):
I'm like, what?
You dumped him?
I feel like they both in their show.
They're so bad.
He like pushed.
He like pushed her into it because he didnot want to be with her at all.
And he was like,I want to make you say it.
They want to make you say, we're going tobreak up is, I don't want to do it.
Maybe he didn't want to be thereand he did not want to make it work.

(01:39:58):
I don't fucking believe that for a second.
No, I don't think he wantedI don't think he wanted to make it work.
But I also don't thinkthat he was ready for it to end.
Like, I think they're both just like
they just both have so many attachmentissues that they need to work on. Like,
so like you said,if he wasn't ready for you to have,
he would have also fought for her.
Yeah, but but I
don't think he would have fought for herbecause I think he's avoiding

(01:40:20):
I think he's totally avoiding her.
Sure, Jeremiah had the same stuff too.
I feel like that's why she's attracted tothese guys is because
she's got this anxious stuffand they go together like yin and yang.
It's like.
And then they just trigger each other.
It's so crazy.
Are you happy with the winner?
So happy for Maya and Brian.

(01:40:41):
Happy with second place.
Oh, I don't care.
Second first loser. Sure.
Whatever you mean, actually.
Secondly is actually the onesthat are going
to be getting all the promotions andthey'll get they'll get some good ones.
They'll get some good ones.
But I really think that Amaya and Brianare going to get a lot.
We're going to be seeinga lot of Nick and Alondra.
That's what you hope?

(01:41:03):
No, that's what we're going to be seeing.
I hope, I hope Fenty Beauty,
I hope Fenty Beauty causal Andreaand gives her some concealer.
That's like a great shade for her.
Okay.
We were talking about thatand Belinda made a good point.
She's like,well they've been out in the sun all day,
so like she probably doesn'thave the correct match anymore.

(01:41:24):
That's what happens when you get tan.
It's not like I during summer.I have to get a different.
Yeah I know you're that's it'sthat's so real but like Love Island.
Fuck you guys like letbring her more like bring the makeup.
What the fuck?
Actually, you're making so much money.
Like, what the fuck?
Why can't you provide themwith, like, top ups on them?

(01:41:45):
Like I can see? Yeah, they had that.
That's what I know.
Well, that's why I think it was weirdthat it was so much lighter, but I know,
I know, like, she know Landryhas the ability to get darker for sure.
There was one day where she had
like a bit of a sunburn and I was like,look, she's got a sunburn.
Yeah, it's
it's it's real.

(01:42:05):
But I mean, I just also like a towardsthe end when like she was crying,
it was I felt bad because it was likea totally different color.
Yeah. She different color.Everybody got her face.
Yeah. And I was like, oh, God.
It was so sunburned for my face.
Oh my God, I love Pepe.
They all,they all were after like fucking 36 day.
But they're all just likeevery woman wants Pepe.

(01:42:28):
And it's just like it's a crime.
Everyone wants Pepe.
I don't know one person that doesn't wantPepe if you don't have blond hair.
Five literallyall of us are going to be calling up
our hair stylist to get blond hairnext month because we want that.
They, like,turn me into a basic naturally. Hi.
I'm going to need give me some extra lipfiller and bleach the bleach this hair now

(01:42:52):
I'm going to go to this ocean.
I don't take any of the here.
It's like I'm just watching.
I'm just here for the vibes, girl.
Oh, look at a.
We were in Costa Bro shirts today.
Were they hit?
No, I mean they were here for us. No.
But people weren't, like going crazyabout your Costa Bro's shirts.

(01:43:15):
I don't even think they noticed.
Was everybody else,like, in a better clothes or something?
What the fuck.
No. They were.
Oh, no we weren't.
Yeah, we were just so cool.
Oh, okay.
I so I was dropping offBelinda by Belinda, I love you.
I love you, Belinda.
She came here for the loveI did, and I got it.

(01:43:38):
Oh, my.
Oh, yeah. She super Mia.
Did you meet you?
We can help you at home.
Okay? Okay.
Bye. There's.
Okay. Get out.
It's rich.
I can talk to you
by Belinda silences.
You should get out of the car.Don't worry. No. It's okay,

(01:44:02):
I love you, okay?
Okay. How was the part?
How was your party? Your viewing party?
Was there anything like, special, or didyou guys just sit and watch it was fun.
We were at the pool,we made pina coladas, and we played,
We came here for love like, 12 times.

(01:44:22):
Had, we had a Love Island playlist,and that song was on repeat.
And it was it was a vibe.
It's pretty important. Yeah.
And they buried him.
Oh, my God, Iris's ECG is so hot.
I'm trying to, like,get a confirmation here on the beach.
And she's got like, oh my God,
she's gorgeous or what.

(01:44:43):
Have baby or not. Fuck this up.
That's all I'll say
I don't think I don't think she will.
I think she she might.
What she got. What do you mean?
What do you mean you hate women?
Yeah, you woman hater.
You're on the air, baby.
Give us your hot take, okay?
This is what I think.

(01:45:04):
I feel like Iris is not going to be,
like, as responsive and, like,
as presentas pep is going to want her to be
or need her to be.
I want and need or different, I think.
I think there's an expectationof like who?

(01:45:25):
Like you, you know, but what kind ofperson you are outside of this villa.
Yeah.
And I feel like she's that kind of person.
That kind of just goeswith the flow of the day.
She does. She doesn't have.
She's a content creator, soshe doesn't have like a strict schedule.
And by the way, I think you're right.
I think she might still live in Calabasasbecause most of her beach

(01:45:46):
photos are Malibu.
And so which which,I mean, is the better beach anyway?
But I'm just saying.
But I understand what you're saying.
I feel like he's a guy that has, like,a routine and has stuff going on,
and I feel like her, I feel likeevery day is different for her.
He's like, I'm not.
I'm not saying she's not oriented,but I feel like he's

(01:46:07):
somebody who wakes up and like,this is what I want.
This is what I'm expecting for today.
And she's more like, okay, I just woke up
and I'm gonna lay out at the pool today.
But maybe he's an athlete.
Maybe he wants that.Maybe he wants that. Though.
I don'tknow, I feel like they're not compatible.

(01:46:28):
Let me look at his let me look at his IG.
And I will see if his IG is like
kind of like like hers.
It's like very like,
sporty ish. Like
I play basketball.
So there's one photo of him in the ocean.
There's a one of him.
There's a bunch of him in the gym.

(01:46:50):
There's one of him at this.
Oh, my God, he's at Disneyland.
He's so cute at Disneyland.
And then I was to Disneyland,and then it's all.
Yeah, then it's all basketball and sports.
Oh my God, you know,they're all going to take a picture,
but they're all gonna be posting about it.
And we should go to Disney the same daythey go to Disney World.

(01:47:13):
When are we going to knowwhen they're not just that's up to you.
You got to figure thatout. You got to get the T.
Turn off.
Yeah. No more mind for these breaks, girl.
Okay.
My distracting you
know.
Well, this was this is Disneyland.
What?

(01:47:34):
Where is the picture of him at Disneyland?
If you keep scrolling, babe, it'shim and his family.
It's after all the Love Island stuff.
She said you got to go all the way downat the very bottom.
I didn't see no way.
Okay, I'll send it's.
You see the one of him in the bathing suit
in the ocean?
Oh, yeah. Oh, who's this girl with?
Oh, that's his mom.

(01:47:54):
Yeah. She's cute. Look at her.
It looks so much alike. It's crazy.
He's so cute.
Is that his girlfriend, though?
That's what I'm saying.
Not anymore.
Oh, she looks so sweet.
Love Island USA.
Yeah, I think that's his girl.
His ex-girlfriend. You.

(01:48:18):
Oh, no more.
Oh my God, some people are creepinhard on his IG.
These women are like,leaving comments on these posts.
What are they saying?
Like, hey, Poppy, hey, sugar.
Like in Spanish and stuff.
Oh. I want to eat my lady in the hideaway.
Oh my God, I hate that.
I hate thatI can't eat my kitty in the hideaway.

(01:48:41):
It's horrible.
It's so gross. But I love saying it.
It's icky.
I was at work yesterday.
I was at my side work,and I saw my coworker
who watched the show, and like I said,it was spring, and I was like, thank you,
thank you.
Eat the hide away.
And then we both just, like, startedsinging louder and louder and louder.

(01:49:04):
And there was people waiting in thatfor the bathroom.
And this guy was like, hey, is that kitty?
Oh my God, Kitty to hide away?
Oh my god, I'm cringing again.
It was so funny.
I'm cringing.
Hahaha I hate it.
So imagine you're imagine
your family was watching thatand everyone was chanting that at you.

(01:49:28):
Oh, they probably would go alongwith that.
I don't know, doing party with you.
Imagine having a viewing party
with your like, familyand like your grandpa, your grandma.
And they're like, what are they saying?
What are they chanting?
And you're coming out in lingerieto go to the hideaway.
Oh my God, you got right in my air.
Coming down.

(01:49:48):
Everyone's chanting,eat that kitty, eat that kitty,
kitty, kitty and hide away.
Jesus and grandma's like, are theregoing to be tags in the hideaway?
Yeah. That's crazy.
No, grandmother referring to her lunchbox.
Oh, it's going to be kittiesin the hideaway

(01:50:08):
now, do you preferyou prefer that response?
What do you prefer, baby lunchbox?
Didn't feel like eating the kitty.
Sounds gross.
Eating a lunchbox
at least sounds like it's like lunchboxesassociated with being eaten.
I don't know, it's the.
But chanting it when they're goingsomewhere is like a weird thing.

(01:50:28):
Yeah, I always thought it was super weirdwhen they were like,
because it's set each other offand then they come out, they're all like,
oh yeah, bro.
Like, yeah. I'm like, okay, okay.
I know it's just like kind of it'skind of it's kind of like really weird.
It's like
they celebrate somebody getting folded
and like and like us now using that,they're folded for sex.

(01:50:50):
Like, I'm not using that.
I can't wait to get folded.
No. Like, what are your t shirt like
essentially.
All right.
Well, you guys, this has been great.
I'm really excited that we gotto touch base right after the finale.
It was just an average season of LoveIsland.

(01:51:13):
I was definitely amused at some points,but not most points.
Correct. It was fun. It was entertaining.
It kept my summer life.
I'm excited for, Love Island games.
That's starting next month.
Yeah, that'll be fun.
Yeah. What the hell is that about?
You'll see, Chris, you'll see thatwe get a reunion with Andy Cohen, too.

(01:51:34):
Oh, yeah. I'm excited about the reunion.
I can't believe I can't believe it.I'm so excited.
Yeah, that'll be fun.
All right, we didn't get movie night,but we're getting a reunion.
That's even better.
Yeah, let'smake it direct and let's listen to them.
Let's.You know what they're going to do now.
Half of them are going to be fightingfor the camera.
Time.
Well, I mean, it's being it's being airedAugust 25th,

(01:51:56):
so it gives all of them a full monthto go home, watch how they acted on TV
and like fight for with fightfor what they want to fight for.
Yeah,
I think it's going to be awesome.
Yeah. All right.
Well, thanks you guys, for what youtry to go on and they're going to be back.
Ciara yeah, I hope so.

(01:52:17):
I don't think soI hope I hope they bring back Sierra.
I want to hear what Sierra has to sayand I want I and she better make a good
I think they will because it's good TV.
We'll see I hope soI agree, I think we need that.
We need all the excitement we can get.
All right. Have a good night.
There you go.
Okay. You're the best.
I love you, too. Bye bye.

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