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Hey, welcome back to Can't Fail Parenting.
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This is where we come together in a community and talk about the hard things that nobody told us about.
Because let's be honest, raising the big kids is hard in a whole new way.
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All the emotions probably have hit you smack in the face and you've got expectations, they've got expectations.
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And the reality is, there is no rule for how you integrate them back into the home and then let them go again.
So let's get into the gray.
Let's get into what we want to come across as, as parents.
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What are the boundaries we want to set? What are the rules we want to establish? What are the roles we want to start to step into? And who are we encouraging our child to become? I'm Dawn Heerema.
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This is SelfFoundry Coaching for families who have a Christian focus on raising their children to be children of Christ.
This is winter break, and all of your students who have been away at college are finished with final exams, having to pack up their rooms.
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So it's a little bit scary and overwhelming depending on how far away your children are.
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So I know that they're tired.
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They just went through their first round of final exams.
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They have grades rolling in and they've got, Just a lot of chaos.
So here's what we're going to need to do.
First of all, they need to decompress.
I know that like you have had these huge expectations waiting for them to come home.
You're going to embrace them and life is going to go back to normal and they're going to just be so happy to be home.
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That's it.
As parents, this is not a stage that's about us.
I know.
I've had a child go off to college.
He's now married and doing really well.
I have two more checking out colleges.
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I teach high school.
I see kids coming back and forth all the time.
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They've been doing all nighters trying to figure out how to study.
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And let's be honest, high school is not as hard as college.
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So this has been a total game changer for them.
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We also need to let them process the disappointments.
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I think a lot of students go to college and they have this expectation of who they're going to be and then their grades did not match their expectation.
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Possibly the classes were disappointing and they're thinking, Oh my gosh, I'm spending all this money and this is a big one, spending all this money and I'm not going to impress my parents.
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They're going to be disappointed in me.
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I'm paying for this.
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Am I actually getting the quality education that I feel like my money should be purchasing? Did I actually get anything out of this? Did I study enough? Am I enough? The kids are processing on these really big grown up levels.
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Very big deal because this is a lot of money some kids are investing.
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So Give them time to just process.
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Don't be peppering questions.
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This isn't the time to be hearing about all the stories about the past few weeks.
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Like we just want to let them be.
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They will emerge for food.
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We know have the snacks ready.
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This is where it's really good to just bring the comforts of home, the traditions of home, if you have any at all.
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Don't be waiting on them hand and foot though.
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We do want to start to set boundaries.
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They are adults, so we need to kind of welcome them back with love.
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This is the holiday season, but you also want to make sure that they understand they're growing into a new person.
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They're becoming the next level of who God is calling them to be.
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So expectations at home are going to change also.
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So once they have been processing, giving a little bit of time, relaxing a little bit, catching up on some sleep.
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Maybe now, this is when you can start to think about doing a fun thing together.
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I always like to take my child on a ride that they cannot escape me.
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A good thing to do might be chores.
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Maybe the kids need to buy some gifts for family members that they haven't had a chance to do and you want to get them in the car, get a little alone time, do the things that adults do.
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do.
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Take them into your world.
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Start to help them transition from child to adult in a way that feels normal in a way that you think they would enjoy embracing adulthood, but also in a way that's challenging and fun.
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It's kind of a death of childhood when they come home.
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Remember how small your house looked when you got back from school.
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You walk up to that front step and it's like everything from your past comes hitting you.
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The family dynamics, the discomfort, they're coming home sometimes in a peak moment of loss.
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They're coming back to a home where something is missing.
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Something isn't the way they want it to be, and they have to face that reality.
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So there could be a loss of a family member.
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It could be a change of circumstance.
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It could be a loss of a pet.
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Like so many things could be different.
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You might've even moved.
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So they're coming back home and they have to kind of re acclimate to this family life that has felt really distant.
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And they felt detached from.
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Sometimes they were jealous.
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Sometimes kids have missed being home.
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There's that nostalgia.
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The reality is they're coming home and for something that felt so huge in their childhood, it's now going to have a different perspective coming back and they need to have that time to process.
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It's almost like the death of your childhood and the beginning of adulthood, but you don't know who you're becoming.
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So you're kind of stuck in this moment.
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Have compassion for them, but also guide them.
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This is a really beautiful thing.
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This is a time for parents to really help their kids who maybe are starting to get grades back.
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And this is really hard.
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These kids might have had straight A's in high school.
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And let's be honest, we are padding grades in high school all across the country So when we have a kid who is an A student, a B student, and they go off to college and they're getting a two point something, a three point something, and they're really disappointed.
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I'm seeing this on a lot of the Facebook pages with parents for dormitory stuff and high end schools.
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The kids are starting to report back.
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My grades aren't good, mom.
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My grades aren't good, dad.
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I don't know what to do.
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I'm freaking out.
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I'm getting D's.
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I'm getting C's.
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I'm not a D or C student.
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First semester of freshman year is really, really hard.
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Cause it's kind of that big reality check.
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A lot of these kids don't have study skills.
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Lot of these kids don't have a support network.
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A lot of these kids don't know how to read for content and comprehension, and they don't know how to devise study systems.
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There is a lot now out there that is AI generated for studying.
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It might be time to sit with them.
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I'm sure they're already on there, but maybe like show them, have them show you.
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How are you studying? What exactly is your setup? So you can kind of help to problem solve and ask them, what do you need from me to make the next semester successful? How can we support you? It's not a time to let them give up.
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I know a lot of your kids want to come home.
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They want to end this really hard experience.
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You have to choose your hard.
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It's hard to transfer.
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It's hard to quit.
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It's hard to look yourself in the mirror.
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It's hard to push through.
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But we want to make sure that they choose their hard really well.
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And this is where it's something to maybe support them in a different way and teach them.
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There's nothing to prove and there's nothing to hide.
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We love you.
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We are here for you.
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You are going to be successful despite your grades, your circumstances, your friendships, all of this.
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You are not defined by school.
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Life is so different from school.
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We know this.
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So we need to help them.
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You have nothing to prove and nothing to hide.
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What do you want to become? Who is God calling you to be? He's going to equip you.
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How can I help you gain the equipping? That's the storyline we need to fill our kids heads with as they're grappling with all of this.
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So that's one thing.
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Another thing that's really interesting is kids sometimes are dealing with guilt.
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They come home and everything they've been doing on the campus, They know it's not something that mom and dad would approve of.
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And they're maybe a little bit disappointed in themselves.
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They had boundaries as a child that they've relaxed on and maybe they became something that they didn't really want to.
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This is a good opportunity to help them guide them in repenting.
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Um, maybe make it part of family prayers.
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Maybe you've adopted family prayers while the kids have been away and you want to integrate that.
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But the big thing is modeling repentance, talking about it openly, not that you're like accusing them, but be like, I have a lot of friends and myself included who we went to college and we became a person that we didn't always like.
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Maybe we did make good decisions.
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Maybe we were surrounded by people making bad decisions a lot.
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And we felt like we were pulled along, carried along in this group.
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But one of the things that helped me stay focused and helped me stay like really centered was learning to repent and learning to ask God to embed wisdom beyond my years into me so that I could really become the person I needed to become in Christ.
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So let's have those raw conversations, those conversations that are going to make you really score me, not week one, not week two.
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These are conversations that you're going to build into, just helping them to figure out how to navigate the next levels of adulthood because this is the period of their life where they're establishing relationships.
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Relationships become critical in the early twenties.
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So we want to make sure that they are really picking and choosing their friendships.
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So this is not just like peppering them with questions, but ask for stories, come up with open ended things, like what's the most fun thing you did with your friends while you were away, or where's something that you are going to go with your friends for spring break, or are you planning to do anything when you get back that you might do a little different compared to the first semester, or whatever.
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What kind of meals did you have? And what was it like in the cafeteria? You know, just all these open ended questions, getting them to talk about the people, the people that they're with are going to really matter as your child starts to really detach from the home, detach from you, because yes.
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They're going to detach from you and it feels like you're losing them, but I will promise you if you have an openness and a curiosity about who they're becoming and what they love and what they want in the world and that you are their cheerleader, but also encourager, but also iron sharpening iron, you want to be like a little bit of all those things.
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But if you get to that point, they're going to come back.
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They're going to want to be with you.
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Not because they have to.
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And that's what's so cool about having an adult child, I think, is this really fun dynamic of now they don't need you.
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They get to choose you.
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And I think that's super, super cool.
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It's a lot more like how God's relationship is with us.
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I don't have to choose God.
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I mean.
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Yeah.
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Life gets a lot easier if you choose God, but I'm just saying, I don't have to.
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God always gives us that free will.
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And once the kids are able to choose you, it feels really good, but you're setting yourself up now.
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And this is a big one when they first come home between winter break season, like that whole time period.
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Okay.
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We need to talk about boundaries though, because your kids will make you crazy.
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I know this for a fact.
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They've got idiosyncrasies they've picked up in college.
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They have things that they've been doing that feel very normal.
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One of them that could be really small that was one of mine was like leaving the toilet seat up.
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It made me crazy.
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I fell in one time.
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It was like 4 a.
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I was not a happy camper.
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But it's something that like it wasn't done at home before but then at college it got loose because he's living with a bunch of guys and I get it.
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I get it.
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So we need to kind of think about like what are the boundaries? Now that was a silly one but you need to have something that you're gonna die on the hill about.
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You have not known where your child was 24/7 for many months now.
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Okay.
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So maybe four months now, you have no idea where your child is.
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Why do you need to know now? That's my question.
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Do you actually need to know? Is this a habit now that you've fallen into out of fear, out of control? What is the root cause of you needing to know where your child is? This is going to cause a lot of tension in your family if you are trying to go back to the old way of establishing this kind of control.
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However, you may have children in the home who are watching and this child who's coming back from college is the role model and you're setting a precedent.
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This has to be done well.
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You need to figure out the boundaries that are going to work for your family.
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I would suggest hard boundaries, no opposite sex in the bedroom, you know, things like that.
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You know, if that's a hard boundary of yours, keep it, hold it.
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The being home on time.
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I mean, you haven't known where they were.
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Here's the thing.
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When they come home, are they being quiet? Are they respectful? Are you having a hard time sleeping? Cause this is a fair one.
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Like if you're really having a hard time sleeping, cause your anxiety is a little high, first of all, that's your problem.
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Not theirs.
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You need to work on that, but there's a little solution.
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Actually, it's really cool.
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You can buy a really cheap alarm clock, put it outside your bedroom and set it for a time that your child agrees to.
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Like, mom, I will never be past one o'clock, I promise.
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Like whatever it is that they're like, there's no reason for me to be out past that.
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They set the alarm to go off five minutes, 10 minutes after that time.
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If they get home, they're going to just turn it off.
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You know, no big deal.
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It's not going to wake you up.
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But if there's an emergency and they don't turn it off, it's going to go off.
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And then you're allowed to, you know.
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Kind of worry not gonna say panic, but you're gonna like, you know, where are you checking checking on them? No Life 360 none of that.
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Save life 360 for like when they're going in the city or something like like I live right outside, New York City Like yes, I'm gonna put on life 360 if they're on a date with somebody who's brand new.
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I'm gonna ask permission I'm gonna be like listen I want somebody to know you're coming home.
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Can I watch you? Can I track you like just to make sure you're okay? They're going to say yes or no.
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But if this is like an established boyfriend, girlfriend, you need to ask yourself, do you trust your child? Are you worried? Is this a fear? This is, this could be a Satan attack of you having a concern.
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So you need to kind of figure out what is your boundary and listen, y'all, you know, your child best.
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This is not like every child needs to be treated the same in your home.
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No, some kids need to have stricter boundaries.
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Remember, the shepherd was there with a staff guiding the sheep.
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Still, this is a child who may be immature.
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Our kids right now are tracking about two years immature in the prefrontal cortex.
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They may be making some bad decisions.
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This could be an opportunity for you to see.
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I want to let them behave the way they would because I need to know if we have a problem.
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Houston, we have a problem.
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So we may need to kind of be looking at this, but not every child needs to be treated the same.
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This is not equity for all.
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No, we know our kids.
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We know who needs what.
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And some of your kids, Need that freedom to start to become who they're becoming.
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Some of your kids need to be checked and made sure that they're safe because we know that addictions can lead them down wrong trails.
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We know that some friendships are meant to be ended.
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Cause Jesus is like, that is not who I'm putting in that person's life.
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Like we have to be careful.
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What if we hate the boyfriend or girlfriend? I did an episode on that.
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You have no control at this age.
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You can have conversations about it, but it's inquisitive, inquiring, asking them what they think, not what you think.
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This is their adulthood.
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It is not your job to protect them from getting hurt.
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So what is our job? Our job is to be there to help them overcome hard things.
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It's a very different role as a parent of adults.
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So we want to make sure that we're transitioning our brains.
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This is going to be hard.
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I know.
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So you've got to really think about it and with your spouse, come to an agreement.
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Some of you maybe need to be on one page with this because I think sometimes one is more relaxed than the other one and all that stuff.
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So be careful.
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And let's, let's be honest.
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We know we need to have some conversations with our kids.
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Possibly about, uh, behaviors that could be hurtful or damaging or whatever.
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So you need to be ready.
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This is a tough conversation.
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You have one month to get them rebooted, rechecked for the next semester.
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So go give them a little break in the beginning, and then you got to kind of start to create opportunity for conversation and have inquisitive, open ended questions ready to go.
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One of my favorite things to do at this time in between, especially as they get older, it's not just a freshman year thing.
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Who are you becoming? Tell me about who you were and what's changed since I last saw you.
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Tell me about your dreams and your expectations.
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Is there a college professor who's inspiring you? Is there somebody in your class that's inspiring you? How are you setting yourself up up to get into internships and apprenticeships and what will that look like? And what do you need from me? That's my favorite question.
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What do you need from me? How can I support you? I'm just so excited to watch you unfold.
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This is exactly what I've been prepping for my whole like parenting journey.
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And I'm so proud of you.
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The words you speak over your child right now are going to have such huge, huge impact.
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Huge.
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When you discipline, don't call them the sin.
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We're going to name sin, but we're going to call good things over our child.
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We're going to Give them, I am so proud of your that, that, that, that you're doing, but also you are beloved, you are so loved.
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You are so cherished.
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I was excited to see you because you make me happy.
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Like all this stuff.
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You can speak these powerful things over your kids because right now, they may not have that individual attention at the school where somebody's seeing them.
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So see them, see them right now.
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Use the words.
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When they're doing things that make you crazy, make sure you're targeting the thing.
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Like, I, I've really have not missed the towels on the floor.
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Please, can you just help me out? And I want to just walk out of my room and, and just, See, like clean slate.
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And I want you to have that too.
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When you're older, I want you to just feel like people can walk in this home and, and not be expected.
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And I won't be embarrassed, like little things.
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Just talk about like what it is to adult.
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Like now you're an adult too.
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Don't you want a clean house? Like, help me help me with that.
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But we're not going to be like, you're such a slob.
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We're not going to call them names, so be very careful.
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This is a really powerful time and they're listening.
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They're listening to you because they have felt very distant.
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So find those moments to cherish and to celebrate in your kids.
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Um, another thing that is really deep and, and you know, you're going to want to give some space for this one is.
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Over the past few weeks, you have done brave things and that's what you're kind of going to start with.
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It's like, you've done really brave things and you can talk about that.
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Like all the things that have been new and challenging and exciting and have that conversation.
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This is what coaching is.
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By the way, we ask these open ended, like.
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Let's reflect and then let's see where we're going.
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So I'm getting you ready for having that goal setting conversation with your kids.
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I know you want to have, I know you do.
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I know you're kind of curious about where they're going to be and you want to like help them get there.
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You want them to level up for the next thing.
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So.
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This is where you're gonna talk about what, where are some of the fears, what did you overcome that were kind of hard this year? So fears might be social, probably a lot social.
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Some of them might've been financial, which they realized that they were operating from a place of scarcity and afraid to take risks and afraid to do bold things.
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Maybe they've had fears of weight gain or self discipline issues or fears of, the family forgetting them or friends for getting them back home.
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There can be a lot of fear.
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So when you kind of talk about that, you can, you can dive into why were you able to overcome it? What did you need in your brain to overcome that fear? And then what do you think is going to be a scary thing coming this semester? What can I do for you? What can we do to help you? How are you going to choose to face the fear and move forward? Forward.
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So this is where we're really kind of setting you up for that conversation.
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And then you need to talk about next steps before they go away.
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You need to get on that website of the college and you need to find clubs with them.
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Now they've had some experience.
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They've had some things that they've done that have given them a little more insight into who they are and how they operate.
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So now we want to get them really starting to niche down.
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I highly recommend that you start to research how AI, artificial intelligence, is affecting the career choices that your child is leaning toward.
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So this is something that is concerning.
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We want to make sure that they are becoming very skill set, skill based, and that they are ready to pivot and move.
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So we may want to really earlier the better talk about getting dual majors, getting a minor and a major.
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There also are scholarships on campus.
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You can go find offices on campus where they have sometimes scholarships that have never been snatched up.
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Maybe a goal is to try to bring in some money to cut down on the building costs, especially if there's been any fear of financial issues.
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So you can talk about ways to raise money.
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There's no reason why kids can't graduate with no debt.
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They can work.
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They can work and they can earn a lot of money.
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So we need to kind of figure out how that looks and they can keep applying for scholarships.
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So this is something to kind of encourage them with.
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And that's a good time to do it over our winter break is to look for some scholarships.
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Now.
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What if this is all blowing up in your face? What if the kids are hooligans? Can I say that? What if your kid is just rebelling? Think this is a time where you need to have real raw and dirty conversation about how This is a sacrifice for you to be helping in any way, shape, or form, whether it's just helping them schlep their stuff back and forth from college, or if it's financial help or whatever help you've been given, because let's be honest, you all are helping in some way.
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If you're listening to this podcast, you are not one of those parents who your child turned 18, they got kicked out the door and they're gone.
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You must be helping in some capacity.
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They need to understand that this is not a take, take, take.
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That's a child.
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Children act like that.
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So you're going to have to set up some structure and that happens, you know, the pain points, the car, the phone, the insurance, it's really the, the money is where, you know, that the pain point is going to hit because they're starting to understand money.
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So we need to hit them where it hurts.
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You need to restrict and you can say, listen, it seems like you really want to adult.
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That because what you're doing is you're asking me to have absolutely no boundaries or restrictions And this is my home that I pay for and if you want to live under my roof That I'm paying for and eat the food that I put on the table Then we need to have a conversation because this is not a take take take This is now you're an adult I'm an adult and we're helping each other out to reach a goal.
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And so I'm breaking generational future poverty by helping you and you are helping me so that I can support you financially in this.
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So we need to have some reciprocity here.
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You give, I give.
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What are you going to give? That's it.
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We're going to start to ask, what are you going to give? What are you willing to give? And this is where you're going to start to let them have a little bit of control.
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What are you going to give? And then you're going to come back.
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Okay.
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That sounds good.
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I'm going to give this.
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What else can you give? Okay, then I'm going to give this and kind of go back and forth.
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I mean, if we need to kind of go apples to apples, let's, let's go, let's go.
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Let's bring it.
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We know that we give nonstop.
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So you can have lockdown rules.
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That's okay.
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And remember that you can always tell them your siblings are watching.
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That's totally fair.
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It's, it's a reality that the kids are watching and it's much easier to be tighter with the first and then loosen up than it is to be loose and have to tighten up because then you're otherwise going to be making them an example.
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I don't want to have to make you an example.
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I don't want to be raising little Tommy one day and be like, well, you know, Joey messed up and blah, blah, blah.
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And so I wasn't good about helping him.
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So now I'm going to help you like this.
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That's not loving.
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Loving is making sure, like the shepherd, that you're guiding, that you're protecting, that you're restricting, that you're, you're going to pull them in a little closer, like hook them in a little closer, walk them a little closer.
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That's, that's, we're still doing that.
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They're still our babies.
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They're still young, but we need to let them go a little bit more and they're gonna mess up.
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That's how it is.
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I did.
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Didn't you? So, you're going to get this.
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The kids are fun.
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They're back.
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Enjoy the time.
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But remember, give them a break in the beginning and then psych them up.
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We got this.
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Set them goals.
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Set those goals and really get them ready for their future and encourage them and be the one who speaks true life and joy into them.
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Let me just pray for you.
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Heavenly Father, I thank You so much for the gift of our children.
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Even our grown children are such a challenge though, Lord.
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And I pray for wisdom as we navigate these waters, I pray that the kids will take what they need from us, but that we will be able to supply what they stand in need of.
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But God, we know that we can give and surrender our children to You because You are the one who is going to equip them.
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them.
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You are the one who guides their paths.
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We pray that our kids will lie down and rest by the water.
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We pray that they will drink deeply of Your streams.
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We pray, Lord, that the Word will guide them, will dwell inside of them.
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We pray for the Holy Spirit to push out any of the enemy's lies.
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We pray Jesus for full washing of sin.
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We pray for a repentant heart and Jesus, if our child doesn't know You, I pray this for all the parents who are very concerned that their child still doesn't have an intimate relationship with You.
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It is not over.
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Lord, take them.
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Pull them closer.
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We pray more than anything that all of our children will become saved Christians who love You and are protected by Your blood.
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We thank You for this honor and this privilege of raising Your children and we pray for Your guidance and Your wisdom and I pray for joy, joy, unending joy.
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We thank You for the hope that we have in You that they have good things ahead of them in their future.
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Amen.
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Amen.