In this episode Carmen and Donny talk with Bill Pettifer a relatively new comedian with an easy going attitude. Bill is mellow and can go with the flow as proven in this episode by his easy laugh and ability to listen to Carmen's incessant rambling. This episode is about pain. The pain of keeping it together in the stand up business. Doing stand up is easy. Carmen and Bill talk about traveling, club owners, parking, crowds, expectations, over fantasizing etc is the hard part. Take a listen and let us know what you think.
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