Welcome to another "Casual Chat" between Father and Son hosts - Steve and Jeff Koegler. We're getting in deep (even though we always wear casual/yet sensible shoes).
Jeff is sifting through the oats of the past. We start the process with a familiar concern that a lot of us have when talking to our parents - Can we really tell them everything that happened when we were growing up ... without repercussions?!?
Jeff is clearing the fog and going back to the tender age of 13 years old. We're dressing in black, sneaking out of the house, smoking cigarettes, and drinking the elixir called "Spread your Wings"!
LISTEN FOR THIS MOMENT: Steve Koegler exclaims, "So, you became a NINJA?!".
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