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November 4, 2025 70 mins

A chat about babies and birthrates. In our final episode on the 4B movement, Natalie and Elle unpack the many reasons why women across the world are opting out of procreating. It is being proclaimed that the human birthrate is in free fall and that we are in a ‘plummeting population crisis’ - but is the birthrate panic warranted? We look at the environmental, economic, political,  evolutionary and social theories as to why the human boom may be slowing down. 

In this jam-packed episode, we also take a critical look at the contradictory messages women receive about our role as creators of new life, and discuss examples of ill-fated government interventions into women’s bodily autonomy - including China, Germany, Romania and the US. We try to wrap our minds around the pronatalism movement and the recent Trump Administration’s incentives for promoting motherhood, and present our own list of incentives that would actually be meaningful to women. We cover the boom-bust theory, evolutionary mate selection theories, DINKS and much more.

EPISODE LINKS

Martha Ahumuza | X

Dr. Jennifer Glass | Paula Ferris Show  

DINKS | Nordy on TikTok 

DINKS Social

The Elephant In The Womb | Grant Wyeth

Declining birth rate

Boom and Bust Cycle 

Climate Apocalypse | Instagram

Jen Unhinged Selective Gatekeepers | TikTok 

Jen Unhinged 4 Things  | TikTok

The Cost of Sexism by Linda Scott

Natal Conference  

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