Code C.L.I.O. (Child Life Isn’t Optional)
*New episodes release every other Thursday beginning March 12, 2026!* Welcome to Code C.L.I.O.! The podcast for everyone and anyone who cares about the psychosocial, cognitive, and emotional development of children. Certified Child Life Specialists (CCLS) want to care for you and your families. But, we can’t do that if we don’t get paid a living wage or if we’re constantly disregarded, disparaged, and disrespected by our colleagues. Join us for our inaugural season as we seek to ask and answer what is a Certified Child Life Specialist, does it matter that the field could disappear altogether, and is there anything we can do about it?
Episodes
Welcome to CODE C.L.I.O.; A new podcast about uplifting the child life field + educating the public on our work as essential clinicians!
This podcast is for everyone and anyone who cares about the psychosocial, cognitive, and emotional development of children. Certified Child Life Specialists (CCLS) want to care for you and your families. But, we can’t do that if we don’t get paid a living wage or if we’...
Between junk certifications, hospitals hiring non Certified Child Life Specialists for "child life" departments, and people selling products promising the results of a CCLS without actually being a CCLS, there has never been a more important time to protect you, your family, and, most of all, your children during your most vulnerable moments.
Join us for Episode 2 as Cinda McDonald, M.Ed., CCLS, GCCA-C, CTRS-C discusses the curren...
➡️ April 09. 🕔 5:00pm EDT 🗣️ Episode 3: The War on Wages w/guest Kirsten Black, MS, CCLS, Registered HPS It matters that the people who care for your child’s psychological and emotional safety can’t afford their basic living expenses. It matters that hospitals see Certified Child Life Specialists as opportunities to trim the budget. It matters that we refuse to allow this topic to become too taboo to discuss. Thank you to e...
What does it look like when hospitals don't value your child's psychological and emotional safety? A 2023 salary survey suggests it might mean nearly 60% of the Certified Child Life Specialists who do this vital, necessary work become "likely" or "extremely likely" forced out due to an inability to afford basic living expenses.
Kirsten Black, MS, CCLS, Registered HPS (and architect of that salary survey) joins the pod this week to...
Child development + stress/trauma/harm to that development doesn’t just exist during a hospital admission or a clinic visit.
The good news? The solution to supporting children and families outside the four walls of a hospital is already here. The real question is are we ready to listen and uplift the Certified Child Life Specialists doing it?!
Join guests Katie Taylor, CCLS and Shani Thornton, MS, CCLS as we discuss the not so hidd...
While play may be a child's favorite language, words still matter during the hard moments. Books can be an essential tool in helping with everything from learning how to name + handle different emotions to providing a template for difficult conversations, diagnosis education, and trauma informed care on topics like death, dying, and grief.
Join Episode 5 guests, Laura Camerona, CCLS and Jessica Correnti, MS, CCLS, Certified Child ...
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