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April 3, 2025 56 mins

Was John Diefenbaker a buffoon or a great Canadian? He served as Canada’s 13th prime minister and spent 39 years in federal parliament, passing away at 83 while still in office.

Bob Plamondon, author and historian, takes a second look at Diefenbaker’s legacy. No question, Diefenbaker was a complex, conflicted, and often tragic man. Many have found too little to like about him and have chosen to revel in the Chief’s outrageous antics. Plamondon does not hide the antics but doesn’t dismiss worthy accomplishments either. (Watch full video on my YouTube channel)

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In this video, Shawn interviews author, historian, and public policy expert Bob Plamondon about his latest book, 'Freedom Fighter: John Diefenbaker's Battle for Canadian Liberties and Independence.' The discussion explores Diefenbaker's complex legacy as a Canadian Prime Minister, his commitment to ordinary Canadians, and his controversial decisions. Plamondon sheds light on Diefenbaker's policies, his difficult relationship with colleagues, and his stance against American influence, offering a nuanced portrayal of a man often mischaracterized in history books.

00:00 Introduction to John Diefenbaker

01:13 Diefenbaker's Political Philosophy and Legacy

02:18 Interview with Bob Plamondon

06:39 Diefenbaker's Early Life and Legal Career

12:23 Diefenbaker's Governance and Leadership Style

17:05 Diefenbaker's Relationship with the Conservative Party

22:47 Diefenbaker's Vision for Canada

28:01 Diefenbaker's Achievements and Controversies

30:50 Diefenbaker's Legacy and Historical Evaluation

42:26 Political Hardball and Social Credit

43:24 Diefenbaker's Views on Federalism

44:12 Quebec's Status and National Programs

45:37 Diefenbaker and Pierre Trudeau

48:17 Diefenbaker's Legacy and the Avro Arrow

49:17 American Interference and the Bank of Canada

51:01 Diefenbaker's Principles and Governance

53:08 Final Thoughts and Reflections

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