All Episodes

October 14, 2025 29 mins

In this episode of the Curious Business podcast, we meet Ella McKay, founder of Fatso. The provocatively named chocolate brand is bringing unapologetic indulgence to dark chocolate and putting ethical sourcing at its core. Ella shares the story of her journey from corporate marketeer to entrepreneurial risk-taker, and provides invaluable insights into effective business strategy and how to use consumer research.

If you’re building a brand in a crowded market, you’ll learn how being provocative and staying true to your values helps you cut through the noise. Sometimes you need to break the rules to make an impact. Hear how Ella established partnerships with cacao farmers in Colombia and why she believes gut instinct, learning by doing, and calculated risk-taking trumps analytics, especially for small businesses trying to innovate and challenge.

Tune in to hear all about:

  • The story behind the provocative brand name
  • Building ethical supply chains with Colombian cacao farmers
  • Navigating retailer relationships and learning when not to take ‘no’ as an answer
  • The production disaster that nearly derailed everything
  • Plans for new formats and products, and making the dark chocolate category sexy
  • The skills and training that best prepared her for the challenges

 

This episode is perfect for founders, brand builders, food entrepreneurs, and anyone who believes business should be built on passion, ethics, and a healthy disregard for doing things the conventional way.

 

Buy online from Delli Market: https://delli.market/collections/fatso

Buy online from Holly & Co: https://holly.co/storefront/fatso

Buy online and read more about Fatso ‘from farm to face’: https://sofatso.com/shop/

Find your nearest retailer : https://sofatso.com/stockists/

To buy the book ‘Thanks For The Feedback’ (recommended in the podcast): https://uk.bookshop.org/a/15792/9780670922635 (affiliate link)

And visit the Curious Business bookshop: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/curiousbusiness (affiliate link)

-- Thanks for listening to Curious Business, the business podcast that brings you fresh insights, experiences and ideas to help you think differently about your business and marketing. My name is Stephen Morris. I help start-ups and scale-ups gain clarity, take action and ignite real momentum in their marketing and pipeline generation. If you'd like to know more, book a discovery call or sign-up for my monthly newsletter - The Prompt. If you'd like to talk about how a podcast can build reach, enhance authority and fuel your pipeline, visit www.curiousbusiness.co.uk.
Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark

My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.