Filming Death: The Scream Murder of Cassie Jo Stoddart

When a quiet September night in 2006 turned into a real-life horror film, Bannock County, Idaho, would never be the same. Filming Death: The Scream Murder of Cassie Jo Stoddart tells the chilling true story of a responsible, kind-hearted teenager betrayed by classmates who wanted to turn murder into a movie.

Cassie was just seventeen — house-sitting, caring for family pets, and planning for her future — when two of her peers, Brian Draper and Torey Adamcik, transformed her ordinary weekend into a nightmare inspired by Scream and Columbine. This episode dives deep into the psychology of teenage infamy, the timeline of the crime, and the haunting aftermath that shattered an entire community.

John and Angela unravel how two high school boys turned fantasy into horror, the meticulous investigation that followed, and how Cassie’s legacy continues to echo through true crime history. From forensic evidence and courtroom confessions to Cassie’s personal story of responsibility, integrity, and light — this episode exposes the thin line between obsession and evil.

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Episode Transcript

John (00:11):
The air was sharp that night in September of 2006, the kind of night
where ous settling in and every shadowfeels just a little bit thicker, a
little bit longer in Bock County, Idaho.
The trees stood like dark sentinelsagainst the sky and a quiet country
home became the stage for a nightmare.

(00:34):
17-year-old Cassie Joe Stoddard was doingsomething so ordinary, so responsible.
It could have been any of us at that age.
She was house sitting for her auntand uncle taking care of the pets.
Looking forward to a peacefulweekend with her boyfriend.
She was known as trustworthy, reliable,the kind of young woman, family members

(00:57):
didn't hesitate to hand over their housekeys to, but what none of them could have
imagined was that while Cassie lockedthe doors and tried to settle in for
the evening, two of her classmates wereplanning to turn her ordinary weekend
into something out of a horror script.
And that's the piecethat chills me the most.

(01:19):
This wasn't the work of drifters orfaceless strangers hiding in the dark.
The predators weren't men.
Decades older, hardened criminalswho stumbled into her life by chance.
They were teenage boys, her peers,kids who walked the same halls at
school, who cracked the same insidejokes, who lived in the same suburban

(01:42):
bubble, where the worst thing that couldhappen was supposed to be nothing more
than a bad grade or a broken curfew.
Instead, these boys wanted to writethemselves into history, not with
accomplishments, but with blood.
They idolized horror movies.
They scribbled downtheir own sixth script.

(02:02):
They imagine themselvesas the directors of death.
The stars of a twisted story where theirvictim's terror was just another scene.
They weren't content to watchHalloween or scream on VHS.
They wanted to make their own versionwith Cassie as the unsuspecting lead
who would never see the credits role.

(02:24):
That's the nightmare of this case.
Cassie.
Joe's daughter wasn't just murdered.
She was stalked and cornered in a homethat should have been safe by friends
she thought that she could trust.
It was a slasher movie made real,not by legends or by boogeyman, but
by boys who smiled in the yearbookphotos and passed notes in class.

(02:46):
And tonight, as October wraps the worldin its cloak of shadows, her story feels
like the very essence of Halloween horror.
A night in a lonely house, lightsflickering a young girl unaware of
the evil lurking just out of sight.
The kind of story parentswhisper as warnings.

(03:07):
The kind of story friends tradewhen their pumpkins glow and
the wind rattles their windows.
But here's the truth, this wasn't fiction.
There was no safety net, nocamera crew, no chance to yell.
Cut.
Cassie's life was stolen in a waythat makes our skin crawl because it
forces us to confront an awful truth.

(03:29):
Sometimes the scariest monstersdon't wear masks at all.
They don't need to.
They sit in the desk behind us, theywalk down the halls of our schools.
They call us friends.
This October, when you see a maskin the store aisle or a flickering
horror film on your tv, rememberCassie, remember that she was real.

(03:51):
She had dreams, she had plans, she had afuture, and in the end, she was betrayed,
not by strangers, but by classmateswho thought her final screams were
nothing more than part of their show.
This is the true story of Cassie, Joe Sto.

(04:12):
Hey, Angela.
How's it going?
Hi,

Angela (04:14):
John.
I'm good.
How are you?

John (04:16):
I'm doing pretty good.
I'm doing pretty good.
Are you ready for this episode?
More October

Angela (04:21):
episodes.

John (04:22):
More October.

Angela (04:23):
I'm always ready.
Even in November I'll beready for October episodes.
I know

John (04:27):
you will.
Are you familiar with this story?

Angela (04:29):
Uh, it sounds slightly familiar, but not a hundred percent.
So you'll get organic responses.

John (04:35):
Alright, well you ready to jump into this?
I am.
Let's do it.
Alright, so welcome back listeners toDark Dialogue, the podcast where we
pull back the curtain on crimes bothinfamous and forgotten, the mysteries that
hunt small towns and big cities alike.
I'm your host, John.
I.

Angela (04:52):
And I am Angela, and as John already knows, this is my favorite season.
October is absolutely awesome.
I'm not a huge fan of the chili nights,but I do love the haunted houses as
long as people aren't touching me.
Yeah, when they make you sign a waiverthat you like, they can touch you.
I turn around and wantthem to sign something that

John (05:14):
you can punch me, that

Angela (05:14):
I can throw, punch them if they touch me.

John (05:16):
I agree.

Angela (05:17):
Anyway, Jacko lantern's glowing on porches.
Love it.
And the thrill of thescary stories all the time.
I live for that.
Yeah,

John (05:25):
I know you do.
You

Angela (05:26):
know, but here's the thing.
While I love the ghosts, the costumesand the kind of spooky you can
turn off when the lights come backon, what we're about to talk about
tonight is the kind of horror.
You can't just switch off.
It's not make believe it's real.

John (05:43):
That's exactly right.
Tonight's case is one of those thatbridges the gap between Halloween
legend and true crime reality.
17-year-old Cassie Joe Stud thoughtthat she was in for a quiet weekend.
House sitting, keeping the pet safe,maybe watching a movie with her boyfriend.
But two of her classmates had other plans.

(06:04):
They weren't just obsessedwith scary movies.
They wanted to create one of theirown with Cassie cast as their victim.

Angela (06:12):
And that's what makes this one so chilling.
It's not that Cassie's life was stolen,it's that she was betrayed by people she
knew, kids she saw every day in school.
It's a reminder that sometimesmonsters don't wear masks at all.

John (06:26):
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Angela (06:45):
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John (06:58):
Because here at Dark Dialogue, we don't just tell stories.
We keep victims names alive.
We demand answers.
And we make sure that theguilty faces the reckoning.

Angela (07:09):
So grab your flashlight, settle in for the October chill, and let's talk
about a night where horror wasn't fiction.
Tonight we tell the storyof Cassie Joe's daughter.

John (07:22):
Now Angela, I think you have some location information for us a little.
Well, he lives with it just a

Angela (07:29):
little.
So I do love doing this podcast formany reasons, and one of 'em is that
I'm learning so much more historythan I ever did in school, and I do
apologize to my teachers out there.
I'm sorry that this is more funthan sitting in a classroom.
It

John (07:46):
definitely is.
It

Angela (07:47):
really is.
So I had no idea that Pocatellowas named after Chief Pocatello.

John (07:53):
Did you?
I didn't actually.
Yeah.

Angela (07:56):
So he was the leader of the northern sh, Northern Shoshone tribe
in Western North America, and heled attacks against early settlers.
After making peace with the USgovernment, he moved his people
to their present location in Idahofrom the pocatello.gov website.
I gleaned that he granted therailroad a right of way through

(08:16):
the Fort Hall Indian Reservation,and that is what likely resulted
in the city being named after him.

John (08:22):
Huh, interesting.

Angela (08:24):
Pocatello is the county seat and the largest city in Bannock County, Idaho.
Bannock is also a tribe.

John (08:33):
It is that one area, yeah.
Yep.

Angela (08:35):
With a 1900 census reporting, 4,046 residents growing to 51,466, just
a few years before this story took place.
And then they cited anestimated 58,064 people in 2023.
So still growing.

(08:56):
Still growing.
I can imagine It's I wouldthink probably like 60 ish.
61 now.

John (09:00):
Probably something like that.
Yeah.

Angela (09:02):
The way that trended.
So, while I know there are manyhistorical items of note for
Pocatello, I think we all know bynow that I don't follow the Nor.

John (09:10):
We do know that.
Yes, I don't.

Angela (09:12):
So here are my fun facts about Pocatello.
Starting with the city flag.
Their city flag used from 2001 to 2017was considered by the North American
vex Logical Association to be theworst city flag in North America.
Wow.
How rude.
Right?
Just pretty rude this agency tobe like, this is the worst flag.

(09:34):
Guess what?
It sucks.
So they formed.
A design committee and after a year anda half of meetings, the city council
finally approved a new design titledMountains Left on July 20th, 2017.
I did see that one.
I didn't look up.
I feel like I feel bad.
I didn't look up the worst one ever

John (09:53):
to look that up.

Angela (09:54):
I know, right?
I don't even

John (09:55):
have a city flag though.

Angela (09:56):
Uh, we have a state.
Yeah, just a state.
We don't have a city.
Yeah, we don't have a city flag.

John (10:00):
I never heard of a city flag.

Angela (10:02):
Rude.
We need to get on that

John (10:04):
I guess.
But I don't know of any cities thathave a flag outta than Pocatello.
Dark

Angela (10:09):
dialogue flag.

John (10:10):
There you go.
Yes.
Anyway, a hundred percent

Angela (10:13):
Pocatello carries the nickname, the US Smile Capital
earned by an ordinance passed inthe 1940s by Mayor George Phillips
that made it illegal not to smile.

John (10:24):
Interesting.

Angela (10:24):
So John would get in trouble there.

John (10:26):
Yes, I would.

Angela (10:27):
Yes.
The ordinance was meant to lift residentspirits after a very harsh winter.
Kind of an interesting way toboost morale, though I doubt
they actually arrest people.
This law is still active on the books.

John (10:38):
That's very interesting.

Angela (10:39):
Yeah, so be careful if you go there.

John (10:42):
Fake smile.
I'll just wear my fake smile.
I'll wear my V for vendettamask that smiles all at time.
That might get you

Angela (10:49):
in a little bit different kind

John (10:50):
of trouble perhaps.
I think it's worth a try.

Angela (10:52):
Okay.
Well, I, I have to,

John (10:54):
I had to live on the edge, my friend.

Angela (10:56):
I have to be there and we have to have bail money.
That's just all I know.

John (10:59):
Perfect.
I totally agree.
Totally.

Angela (11:01):
Right.
Yeah.
We gotta be able to bring you home.
Okay, so the final tidbit I willleave you with is that actress
and two time kidnapping survivor.
Jan Broberg felt was born in Pocatello.
She was kidnapped on two occasions,once at 12 years old, and again at 15
years old by a family friend who I wouldnot consider a family friend anymore.

John (11:21):
Yeah.

Angela (11:23):
The experience was documented by her mother in the book Stolen
Innocence that Jan brought, broughtBroberg story also detailing this
ordeal where the documentary abductedin plain sight and the drama miniseries
a friend of the family, Jan has goneon to appear in various feature films.
Apart from that, and perhaps John willlet us circle back and cover her one day.

John (11:45):
Yeah, definitely.
I think so.
It's such a strange story andit's one where I am just like,

Angela (11:52):
it is so strange

John (11:53):
and you know, I never like to like go after victim's families
or anything but that story, it'slike, how did he do it twice?
How can he freaking people be this naive?
Are you out of your minds?
How did he do it twice?
And then I can't,

Angela (12:07):
the weirdness of.
The dude had a relationshipwith both mom and dad.

John (12:13):
Yeah,

Angela (12:14):
interesting.
So yeah,

John (12:15):
it's a bizarre freaking,

Angela (12:17):
we'll have to come back to that, but that's what I have for location.

John (12:21):
Well, thank you very much for that.
Thank you.
From

Angela (12:23):
here later.

John (12:24):
Here we go.
So Cassie Joad was in every way thepicture of a responsible, kindhearted
teenager Growing up at Pocatello, shesplit her time between her mother's
house and her grandparents, immersedin a family atmosphere marked by
warmth and support her close knitbond with her younger brother.

(12:45):
Andrew was unmistakable.
They shared jokes, interests, anddreams with Andrew, often citing
Cassie as his greatest role modeland best friend academically.
Academics were kind ofcentral to Cassie's identity.
Our teachers knew her as a straightA student who quietly excelled

(13:07):
not for recognition, but frompersonal pride and ambition.
She had a particular knack fornumbers and a creative spark
that flourished in our class.
Cassie's mother would laterkeep her daughter's drawings on
display evidence of the hours.
Cassie spent sketching at her desk whilemusic played softly in the background.

(13:28):
Unlike many of her peers.
Familiar.
Doesn't it though?
Yeah.
Unlike many of her peers,Kassie was not drawn to parties
drinking or any risky behavior.

Angela (13:40):
That does not sound familiar.

John (13:41):
Not at all.
Yeah, we were bad kids.
Yes.
At least I was for sure.
She lives simply preferring to babysitchildren or house, sit for neighbors to
earn money, determined to save enoughfor her own car, even in her social life.
Cassie had a gentle approach.
She was shy, but friendly.

(14:02):
Moving between cliques at PocatelloHigh School with a smile, treating
everyone with fairness and with empathy.
Her romantic relationship with MattBeckman added a sweet, innocent
chapter to her high school experience.
They supported each other and sharedsimple pleasures like watching movies or

(14:24):
talking about their plans for the future.
Casser, Cassie never triedto impress with extravagance.
She found fulfillment in beingdependable, trustworthy, and genuine.
Typical afternoons, often foundher at home, drawing, studying, or
listening to her favorite songs.
She thrived on routine, wake up earlyfor school, focus in class, help at home,

(14:50):
pursue personal projects, and unwindin her private world of creativity.
Even when acquaintances like Brian Draperand Tori Adamek, her eventual killers.
I was

Angela (15:02):
gonna say, why do I have a feeling we're gonna hate those two?

John (15:04):
Yeah.
And even when they enteredher life, Cassie greeted 'em
with kindness and inclusion.
Never imagining malice couldpass behind a familiar smile.
I mean, this girl just sounds freakinglike every parent's dream, right?
You know?
Um.
Yeah, she just seems like a reallycool kid, you know, that had her head

(15:25):
screwed on straight and would've achievedall kinds of stuff in life, right?
Her aspirations reached farbehind beyond the Idaho horizon.
She spoke of college and dreamedof a career in law or in forensics
fields led by her innate senseof justice and curiosity.
Her friends and family saw heras mature beyond her years.

(15:49):
A young woman whose integrity acted asa beacon in her community before tragedy
struck Cassie's life was full of promise.
She was defined not by darknessor excess, but by simple enduring
light of everyday goodness.
Embodying the kind of sincerity,diligence, and hope that

(16:11):
audiences can truly connect withremembering her as a person first.
Cassie Jotter was an intelligent,artistic, and caring young, caring
young woman who is defined by herstrong relationships, dedication to
academics, and understated kindness.
Before her life was tragicallytaken, Cassie grew up in Pocatello,

(16:35):
Idaho, the small conservativecommunity where family bonds and
personal responsibility were valued.
Her home life was layered.
She lived primarily with hermother Anod, her stepfather and
siblings, but at times also with hergrandparents who helped raise her.
During those formative years,Cassie and her siblings remained

(16:59):
especially close to their mother.
And she developed a close bond withher younger brother, Andrew, who viewed
her as his best friend and role model.
Cassie's loving nature and empathy wereevident in the way she treated her family.
Opting to spend time with themhelped care for her siblings, and
maintained strong connections.

(17:20):
Even as the family structure changed,teachers and friends and family remembered
Cassie as exceptionally responsible,trustworthy, and mature beyond her years.
She was mainly described as shy, butwarm, approachable, and accepting.
She rarely, if ever, engagedin any risky behaviors.

(17:42):
She didn't drink, didn'tparty, she didn't use drugs.
Instead, she preferred to spend time athome or with those that she cared about.
Art class was one of her favoritesubjects, and she was known to
spend hours drawing in her roomwhile listening to music indicating
a gentle, creative spirit.
Many of her drawings werelovingly displayed by her

(18:05):
mother in the family home.
Cassie also had a strong academic drive.
Like we said, she was a straight A studentwho took her studies very seriously,
always aiming for high achievements.
Despite never being heavily involvedin any extracurricular activities, she
possessed a natural gift for numberswhich balanced with her artistic side.

(18:28):
Her ambitions were grounded.
She envisioned going to college andaspired to become a professional with
interest mentioned in law or in theforensic fields, which I already said.
As a junior at Pocatello HighSchool, Cassie was liked by a wide
range of peers across differentcliques and social circles.

(18:48):
She was known to treat everyone withkindness and respect regardless of
their background or their popularity.
While somewhat reserved, she could befunny and enjoyed laughing with friends.
A former classmate recalled Cassie'shelpful support during a school
project, offering quiet encouragementto boost a friend's confidence.

(19:09):
Though Cassie's primary focus washer academics and her family, she did
enjoy some typical teenage experiences.
She was dating Matt Beckham for aboutfive months leading up to her murder.
Their relationship was describedas sweet and supportive.
Cassie also took on practical roleslike babysitting, house, sitting,

(19:30):
and they were all motivated byher desire to get a car, which.
We in all, I think, ohyeah, that, oh yeah.
These jobs further highlightedher responsible and mature nature.
Cassie's daily life wasmarked by routine instability.
She split her time up, likewe said, between her mom's

(19:50):
house and her grandparents.
She was always involved with family life.
Family was just really important to her.
And then after school, she'd,you know, get her homework
done and all that kinda stuff.
And then she'd startsketching, listening to music.
Um, and like I said, sheseldom participated in any
group, group activities.
I mean, in that regard, she doesremind me of myself, you know,

(20:14):
same other than the partying part.
But other than that, it was,yeah, stay away from me.

Angela (20:19):
Exactly.
But I'm still that way.

John (20:22):
I am very much still that way.
Two peas in a pod.
We are John.
Yep.
So the weekend of September 22nd, 2006,began with relief and a sense of adult
pride for Cassie Joe Stoddard at just 16.
Her reputation in thefamily was already stellar.
Her Aunt Allison and Uncle Frank Contrerastrusted her so much that they asked her

(20:48):
to watch over their new dream home whilethey took a short trip, an assignment
that Cassie accepted with Enthusiasm.
The house nestled on Whispering CliffsDrive outside Pocatello was impressive.
A spacious, spacious, split level retreatsurrounded by two acres of land, quiet

(21:09):
and a little isolated from the world.

Angela (21:11):
I can imagine how proud you would feel with that trust.
Yeah,

John (21:17):
absolutely.

Angela (21:17):
Their dream home even, I mean, just anything.
Yeah.
But at 16, to be entrustedwith their dream home.

John (21:22):
Exactly, man.
Yep.
So for the Contreras family who wererecent transplants from the bustling
Bay area, the home embodied security andnew beginnings, Cassie had house set and
babysat for her aunt and uncle before theyknew that she would take excellent care

(21:43):
of things and more crucially of the pets.
Three cats and two dogs werecounting on her the most.
Aw, eager as always, to showthat she was trustworthy.
Cassie jumped at the opportunity.
Earning extra money was a bonusthat she was grateful for.
Every dollar brought her closer tothe car, that she was saving for a

(22:05):
tangible symbol of the independencethat she craved her mother.
Her mother, Anna drove her to thehouse in the late afternoon and
out of habit and maternal love.
She waited and watched Cassieand made sure that she made
it safely inside the house.
That one last glance would beetched in Anna's memory forever.

(22:29):
Cassie knew the house was remote andshowing her maturity, asked permission
for her boyfriend, Matt Beckham, to keepher company in the evenings permission.
Granted, Cassie and Matt preparedfor a quiet night movies and familiar
comfort, the hallmarks of responsibleof responsible young adulthood.

(22:49):
And I gotta say, I mean, thatspeaks volumes to me to ask

Angela (22:54):
permission.
Yeah.

John (22:54):
Yeah.
Because even like the bestkids would be prone to sneak
their girlfriend or wife Yeah.
Over.
And this girl was so responsiblethat she actually asked permission.
And I think it speaks volumes toher responsibility that her mom
actually granted the permission.
Right, right.
You know what I mean?
And his parents too, right?

(23:15):
Well, do we know if his parents knew?
We do and they did.
Okay, good.
Yep.
But the evening'stranquility did not last.
Matt invited two of their classmates,Brian Draper and Tory, Adam, dammit, Matt.
Yeah.
Whose relationship with Cassiewas friendly and familiar.

(23:35):
Cassie ever.
The polite host even offered them a tourof every room, including the basement.
Unbeknownst to her, this small kindnessallowed Draper to secretly unlock the
basement door, setting an evil planin motion, the boys departed, claiming
that they were heading to the movies.

(23:57):
Later, the power flickered andfailed leaving Cassie Uneasy.
Matt's mother later phoned offeringCassie a safe, comfortable,
comfortable ride back to their house.
Cassie, however, declined the petsand her promise weighed on her.
She was determined to to fulfill her jobto the very end, no matter the discomfort.

(24:21):
When Matt's mother arrived and Matt leftfor the night, Cassie was alone in the
large unfamiliar house responsibility, thelast decision that she would ever make.
So just to give a kind of atimeline of all our events
going on here in this story.
So before September 22nd, Cassie'saunt and uncle obviously, um, Alice

(24:45):
and Frank Contreras had asked herto house sit for the weekend and
to take care of it was primarily totake care of their animals and just
kind of keep an eye on the new home.
I mean, right.
I gotta imagine it was probably, theyneeded somebody to take care of their
animals and they were probably kindagiving her a little extra to, you know,

(25:05):
to help out save for the car and be like,and you can watch the house too, and Yeah.
You know, we'll pay you for that.
I'm, I'm just guessing,but it makes sense to me.

Angela (25:16):
It sounds like an aunt

John (25:17):
and uncle thing to do.
It really does.
Yeah.
And then on February, September 22nd,around five 30 is when Cassie's mother
drops her off at the home, and the homeis described as being pretty large.
Um, and it was located, youknow, like I said, on like, I
think two acres of property.
So it was pretty secluded.

(25:37):
Mm-hmm.
And then around 6:00 PM Cassie'sboyfriend Matt arrives to spend
some time with her and his, his momactually drove him and dropped him off.
Okay.
So all the parents were awareof, of what was happening.

Angela (25:52):
They're good kids.

John (25:53):
Yes.
Except for inviting random other people.
Right.
So between six 30 and seven,Brian and Tori show up and Cassie.
Cassie really wasn't awarethat they were coming.
So I think that she was a littleirk, but she was also just super

(26:13):
sweet and nice and so she washospitable and enjoyed them and Right.
You know, invited them in and likeI said, gave her a two, gave them
a tour of the place and everything.
And then, uh, sometime after eightDraper and Adamek left saying that they
were headed to, headed to the movies.

(26:33):
And, um, Cassie and Mack continuedto watch Kill Bill Volume two.
And then a, sometime after 10:00 PM um,the power started to flicker started to
go off and on, and, and so both Cassieand Matt were getting pretty freaked out.

Angela (26:56):
Matt had no idea,

John (26:57):
you know, these guys were none.
No.
He was completely innocent.
So between 11 or between 10 30and 1115, Matt's mom's calls.
And Matt was like, youknow, the power's gone off.
Cassie's really freaked out.
Can I stay here with her?
To which mom was like, oh hell no.

Angela (27:18):
Right?
I

John (27:18):
don't need grace.

Angela (27:19):
We draw the line there.

John (27:20):
No, we're not playing that game,

Angela (27:22):
but trust you.
But

John (27:24):
to show how sweet his mom was, she was like, no, but um,
you, she can come with you here.
Yeah.
And stay at our house for the night.
And so Matt said to to Cassie,Hey, you know, mom said you
could come stay with us.
And she was like, I can't do that.
I have a respons, I have aresponsibility to take care of my
uncle and aunt and uncle's house.

(27:45):
I told them I would, they're trusting me.
I can't leave.
And so, you know, then when, um.
Then Matt's mom came to pick him upand then she was alone after that.
Yeah,

Angela (28:01):
mom probably tried again in person though, if she's Anytime.
What's that

John (28:04):
now?

Angela (28:05):
Mom probably asked her again in person.
Oh,

John (28:07):
probably, yeah.
So

Angela (28:09):
I mean, I would, are you sure you don't want to?
Yeah,

John (28:13):
yeah, I'm sure.
Probably so.
So Brian Draper and Tori Adamek wereboth 16-year-old high school juniors
at Pocatello High School in Septemberof 2006, and both had deeply troubled
backgrounds in dark fixations thatled to Cassie just DOT's murder.

(28:35):
So breaking that down, Brian Lee Draper.
Was born March 21st, 1990 in Sandy,Utah, and then moved to Pocatello
with his family and struggledfrom an early age with bullying
due to a stutter that he had.
And he described himself as aloser and a nobody often seeking

(28:56):
validation and longing for notoriety.
So his fascination with violence began inmiddle school, notably through obsessing
over the Columbine High School shooting.
Oh no.
He idolized Eric Harris and DylanKlebold seeking to create chaos and
destruction and surpassed the death tollthat they had inflicted the sickness

(29:19):
that came from these two losers, right?
Has infected so many minds andit's so freaking strange to me.
So Draper often frequented onlineColumbine chat rooms, which is
sink in its own right, no doubt.
And expressed through writingsand homemade videos, a desire
to reenact such terror.

(29:40):
Even pinning a piece calledColumbine, in which he called
Harrison Bold, his heroes, oh no.
Yeah, he's a sick little shit.
His family life appeared generallysupportive, and both parents were present
for multiple interviews after the murder.
And then Tory.
Michael Adamek was born June 14th,1990, and was raised in Pogo Tell Idaho.

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Tory's mother described him as aquiet, nonviolent kid, but others
noticed that he was socially awkwardand often disturbed peers by imitating
violent acts pretending to stab 'emor to slit their throats at school.
Adam Mc maintained a keen interestin horror movies, especially Scream,

(30:27):
which decorated his locker and shapedhis fantasy of becoming a filmmaker
and a notorious killer, geez.
So he harbored a crush on Cassie,occasionally flirting with her.
Over the prior two years, Adam Mc laterreferenced infamous killers like Ted Bundy
and the Zodiac Killer in videos boastingthat he and Draper would make history and

(30:53):
calling all those other murders amateurs.
These two little dumb shits.
Geez.
Thought they were so freaking brilliant.
And they're like the dumbestpieces of shit to ever do anything.
I mean, they're, they're dumber thana freaking clump of hair, these two.
Mm-hmm.
But they thought they were justtoo brilliant to get caught.
Wonderful.
His mother later published a bookasserting his innocence, which is insane.

(31:20):
But later court testimonystrongly contradicted that.
Well, not only later court testimony,but the video that they recorded
of it, which we will get to it.
It's pretty hard to claimeither of these two little thumb
shits were in any way innocent

Angela (31:36):
because he wanted to be a filmmaker.

John (31:38):
Right?

Angela (31:39):
Wonderful.
Okay,

John (31:40):
so Draper and Adamek became close friends at Pocatello High School, and
they were drawn together by their freakingsickness, whatever infected their brains.
Their relationship fostered dark, violenttendencies, and together they created
a death list filled with classmates,including Cassie Joe Stoddard, with video

(32:02):
diaries documenting their desire to kill.
So around August the 31st, 2006,they acquired four knives at a pawn
shop through Adam X's older friendJoe Lucero, citing the Reason as a
collection, they're collecting knives.
Though Draper claimed immediate ownershipof the knife later used in the murder.

(32:28):
So on September 21st, 2006, theyattempted to kill another girl.
Geez.
Uh, and so listen, somebodyelse who turned them down.
Well, I think it might've been two,because in the court papers it's,
there's a listing for Jane Doe numberone and a listing for Danny Dixon.

(32:49):
So it's very possible it was two, orDanny Dixon was their intended victim and
was also listed as Jane Doe number one.
A lot of the times in court papers,it'll, they'll list them as like Jane Doe
number one, especially if they're minors.

Angela (33:05):
Yeah.

John (33:06):
But it also list was listed as Danny Dixon, so it was, I'm unclear whether it
was two in intended victims or just one.
Okay.
But we do know that Danny Dixon was oneof their intended, intended victims,
and their attempt was foiled because shewasn't home when they went to kill her.
And so their videotapes referencemultiple failed attempts, all targeting

(33:30):
isolated, vulnerable fellow classmates.
So Cassie, like we said, wasentrusted to, to, you know, take
care of the house and everything.
And Matt, her boyfriend, hehad no ill intentions at all.
He was just a kid that invitedthese other, these other two dip

(33:52):
shits to come over and they weregonna have like a group movie night.
And so,

Angela (33:57):
but was he clo I mean.
Was he in their group?

John (34:00):
No.

Angela (34:01):
So, but

John (34:02):
they were just kind of friends and classmates.

Angela (34:04):
Oh, okay.
So he kind of maybe feltbad for 'em or something?

John (34:08):
Maybe.
I mean, I just got the, Igot, I'm trying to figure

Angela (34:10):
out why a good kid mixed up with these ass hats.
There you go.
It's my turn to call 'em ass hats.

John (34:16):
They're definitely ass hatts.
I don't have a good answer for you, butit's, I mean, like there's videos, as
sick as it is, there's a video that theytook of Cassie that day in school and they
like went up to her at her locker and werelike joking with her and stuff like that.
So I mean, it was obvious that like shedidn't hate them or anything, you know?

(34:37):
Right.
So I just think that they were likeacquaints acquaintances, even maybe
friends and classmates, you know?
But they probably kept their darkestshit just between the two of 'em.
Well, yeah, these weird asslittle freaks always do that.
You know, like they only talkabout killing everybody when
it's just the two of 'em.

(34:58):
So that's kind of what I'm guessing.
Matt was in no wayinvolved in this at all.
He just thought that theywere gonna have a movie night.
These two dip shits thought that they weregoing to a party, but it was just mm-hmm.
Like Cassie and Matt just intended to havean innocent, we're gonna watch movies.
These two dip shits thought they weregonna go get drunk or high or whatever.

(35:21):
Right.
And so they get there and itwas just watching a movie.
So it is reported that eventhough that she kind of saw both
of the boys as friends, she wasreportedly pretty freaking annoyed
with Matt for inviting them.
Mm-hmm.
Without checking with her first.

(35:41):
So we do know that

Angela (35:43):
well, 'cause she asked for permission for everything.

John (35:45):
Right.
And we do know that Kassiehad no part in this.
I mean, why the hell are yougonna ask permission for your
boyfriend to come over, but

Angela (35:52):
not too randos.

John (35:53):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So.
But nonetheless, being the sweetheart thatshe was, she played the welcoming host
and offered the boys a tour of the house,including the critical basement where
Draper discreetly unlocked a back doorthat would facilitate their later returns.
So the Fourteenths then watchedKill V Volume Kill Bill Volume

(36:16):
two together, and Draper and AdamMc left about two hours later.
And when they left, it was beforethe movie ended, and they said
that they, they planned to catchanother film at the theater in town.
Okay.
But instead of departing these two littledip shits parked nearby and reentered

(36:37):
the house through the unlocked basementdoor about 15 minutes after they left.
And their goal was to terrorize andthen murder Cassie using tactics that
were inspired by the Scream films.

Angela (36:50):
So they must have known that Matt was going

John (36:53):
Yes.
To leave.
Yes.

Angela (36:55):
Now let's let it be on the record.
I do love scary movies.
I do enjoy watching Scream.
I do not intend to kill anyone.
Just let that be known.

John (37:06):
Yeah, I'm right there with you.
Carry

Angela (37:08):
on.

John (37:08):
Yes.
So, um, so the, their initialplan was the, the electrical
panel was located in the basement.

Angela (37:20):
Right.

John (37:21):
And their initial plan was to turn the brake.
It's a stupid place

Angela (37:24):
for it too.
It should be whereyou're not afraid to go.

John (37:27):
Yeah.
I mean, a lot of 'em areoutside, so I don't know, but.
Their plan was they were gonnaturn a breaker off to like
the lights and stuff upstairs.
Cassie would come down to thebreaker panel to check it out.
Okay.
And they would kill her.
But you know, it didn't work out thatway because she's a freaking 16-year-old
girl and she probably doesn't havethe slightest clue about right.

(37:49):
Flipping a breaker back a hundred,didn't break anything, and she's probably
scared shitless to go into a basementby herself anyways, so it didn't quite
work out the way that they had planned.
So sometime after nine 30 when theycame back in, Cassie and Matt were
upstairs continuing to watch the movie.
The boys entered the basementand started making loud noises.

(38:13):
And like I said, it was, they weretrying to lure 'em downstairs.
I do believe that they wereplanning to kill Matt Oh.
And Cassie together.
Okay.
Um, Draper broke ashtrays on the scare,on the steer on the staircase as a
further baiting tactic, but it failedto get these two kids to go downstairs.

(38:34):
And so they decided to shift T tacticsand Draper and Adam located the circuit
breaker in the basement and deliberatelyturned off the power obviously causing
blackout to parts of the house.
And, and then around 10 o'clock, thefamily dogs became agitated, barking, and
focusly intensely on the basement stairs.

(38:56):
Um, and obviously thatadded to Cassie's fears.
So c. 10, 10 30 ish, something like that.
Cassie was visibly shakenand she was scared shitless.
This poor girl.
Yeah.
And so, like I said,concern for her wellbeing.
Matt called his mom and asked ifhe could stay, which she said no,

(39:18):
but Cassie could spend the nightwith them if, if they wanted to.
But she was so responsible.
And this, I mean, this speaks volumesbecause yeah, if I'm hearing this
shit in the basement, I'm out.
I'm probably taking the opportunityto sleep at somebody else's
house too, like feed the animals.
I don't think I'm responsible.
Shit.
I'll bring the animals with me.

(39:39):
I don't give a shit.
I am outta here.

Angela (39:41):
Yeah.

John (39:42):
But she just, I don't know.
She was an impressive little girl.
Is is just all there is to it.
So.
By around 1115, Matt's momshowed up, um, to pick him up and
left Cassie alone in the house.
And as Matt left, hecalled Tory's, which has a

Angela (39:59):
mom that probably tore her.

John (40:02):
Oh God, I can't even imagine.
Really All everybody involved.
Her mom that dropped her off there.
Yeah.
Her aunt and uncle who left her in,you know, in this position, this
mother who, I mean they're all blamingthemselves and it's none of their faults.
Yeah.
But after Matt left, he calledTory's cell phone, hoping to

(40:22):
check in, perhaps meet up later.
Um, and Adam, Adam answered in awhisper and Matt could barely hear him.
And he wrongly assumed that the boyswere at the movie theater watching
the movie, like they said, whenin fact they were in the basement.

Angela (40:40):
Kind of shocked he answered the phone.

John (40:42):
Right.
So.
Inside the house after Matt left Draperand adamant once again, turned the lights
off at the breaker panel in the basement.
Waited for Cassie to come downstairs.
She didn't, but the psychological gamesand the growing menace culminated in

(41:04):
a terrifying loneliness for Cassie.
In her final moments before the attack.
This, this poor girl wasscared shitless, right?
So as Matt drove away, Draper and Adamekremained hidden in the basement and they
were dressed in black long sleeve shirts,gloves, and their self decorated white

(41:25):
ma white face masks with faux blood.
They put like fake blood on thecheesy, stupid ass scream mask, like

Angela (41:33):
a ghost face mask.

John (41:34):
Yeah.
Draper was armed with aserrated dagger type of knife.
Adam had a hunting knife andboth had purchased him weeks
earlier for this purpose.

Angela (41:45):
No, they purchased him for collection as a

John (41:48):
collection.
Yeah.

Angela (41:49):
Get it right John.

John (41:51):
So after confirming with each other in their car on video, disgusting that
Cassie was alone, they waited for Mattto leave the tension mounted in their
recording voices as they talked aboutthe quote grueling task ahead of them.
Yeah.
So their plan, like I said, was to forceCassie to come downstairs once they

(42:15):
realized that she was not gonna leavethe relative safety of the living room.
Right.
Draper and Adamic decided to.
Go up the stairs and as they climbthe stairs, the dogs barked at 'em.
Sensing a danger, sensing,freaking creepy, psychotic little
shitheads in the house, right?

(42:35):
Dogs have a real shithead sense.

Angela (42:38):
Yeah.
If dogs don't like someone,don't like them either.

John (42:41):
Yeah, a hundred percent.
So Draper sat to frighten Cassiefurther by opening and slamming a
closet door at the top of the stairs.
Cassie, likely frozen in terror wasthen ambushed by these two shitheads.
The attack was frenzied and merciless.
Cassie was stabbed approximately29 to 30 times, geez, in the

(43:03):
chest, neck, back, and abdomen.
At least 12 wounds were deemedto be potentially fatal.
Most of the most severe wounds camefrom the serrated knife that was
wielded wielded by Brian Draper.
Whew.
Cassie fought bravely for her life,sustaining all kinds of defensive

(43:24):
wounds on her hands and on her arms.
One report even suggests that shelost a finger in the struggle.

Angela (43:31):
Wow.

John (43:32):
Yeah.
And you know, she probablylike grabbed the knife.
Yeah.
Oh, and I mean, it's just, it'ssick to even freaking think about
what this poor girl went through.
Draper initially claimed thatAdam X started the stabbing, and
then he only followed upon beingthreatened when I, when Adam X
tried to blame Draper entirely.

(43:53):
So you're gonna see that thesetwo little shits Oh yeah.
Turn on each other like atthe freaking drop of a hat.
Of course they do.
So after they finished brutally murderingthis sweet classmate of theirs for no
freaking reason whatsoever, these two dipshits leave Cassie's lifeless body in a

(44:13):
pool of blood on the living room floor.
And then they get in the car and they'rerecording themselves the whole time
on video with Brian exclaiming on tapethat he had quote, just killed Cassie.
And they're all excited and shit.
Geez.
Then Tory panicked cut Draper off anddemanded that they quote, get their

(44:36):
act straight, planning to create analibi by purchasing movie tickets.
So the boys still recording?
Still recording?
Yes.
Gotcha.
Okay.
So the boys then went to a store, boughtstick matches and hydrogen peroxide, and
attempted to burn and bury the bloodstainclothes, the masks, and the knives.

(44:57):
In BlackRock Canyon, theirattempt was clumsy at best.
Mm-hmm.
They used you.
I don't, uh,

Angela (45:07):
you,

John (45:08):
yeah.
I mean, you would think kids this agewould be smarter than these two dip shits.
Well,

Angela (45:14):
and if they watch movies and they have an affinity, come on.

John (45:19):
But they used hydrogen peroxide instead of like gasoline to burn shit.
Hydrogen peroxide's.
Not flammable.
Flammable.
So, yeah, and I, I mean, we're nottalking about four year olds, right?
You know, like these children,these, these guys were

(45:40):
driving, they were juniors.
They were on our roads.
By the time I was a junior in highschool, I definitely knew that gasoline
was more flammable than peroxide, right?
So the evidence was only partially Fritos.

Angela (45:52):
Corn chips are more flammable than

John (45:55):
peroxide.
Oh, a hell of a lot more.
So around midnight, Matt called Cassieto say goodnight, but received no answer.
And then he called repeatedlythe next day because obviously
he was increasingly worried.
And that day, the next day, Matt askedTory to drive him back out to the
Contreras home to check on Cassie.

(46:17):
But Tori refused, claiming that hedidn't have enough gas, and Matt
ended up staying at Tori's house.
Oh, still completely unaware thatthis piece of shit had murdered
his girlfriend the night before.
Mm-hmm.
So Cassie's body was notdiscovered until Sunday.
When her poor aunt and uncleand cousin returned home great.

(46:40):
And her cousin found her in theliving room, which obviously resulted
in severe trauma and long-termpsychological consequences for the
cousin and their, that entire family.
Yeah, I can't even imagine.
So the cousin was 13-year-oldKelsey, so 13-year-old is who
discovered her cousin's body.

(47:02):
Um, around 1:15 PM on Sunday.
When they arrived home, thehouse was unusually quiet and
the front door was unlocked.
A detail that.
Immediately they noticed.
They're like, oh shit,the door's unlocked.
Mm-hmm.
And then Kelsey discoveredCassie's body in the living room
and immediately called 9 1 1.
Officers and paramedics arrived verypromptly and quickly recognized that

(47:27):
it, this was a homicide and Right.

Angela (47:30):
And she didn't stab herself 30 times.

John (47:32):
Right.
And, you know, there was nothing for,unfortunately, there was nothing for
the paramedics to do at that pointbecause she was gone, you know?
So police observed extensive blood aroundher and noted very deep stab wounds.
The scene also showed clear signsof a struggle with blood on the
carpet, the furniture, the walls.

(47:54):
I mean, yeah, you have some, you stabsomebody like 30 freaking times and
it is gonna be everywhere it seems.
Spatter everywhere.
So obviously law enforcement immediatelybegan a homicide investigation.
Um, they placed the Contreras family in ahotel for their own safety and wellbeing.
And because their house was nowan active crime scene, right?

(48:18):
Investigators found no signs offorced entry and no murder weapons,
and no evidence of robbery suggestingthat Cassie knew her killers.
The house pets were found alive andunharmed, but locked in a different room,
and police found broken glass in thebasement and the breaker box had been
tampered with, which would become keyclues to the killer's, entries, and exit.

(48:43):
So police quickly focused on thelast known to have seen Cassie alive.
Nap Beckham.
And then through his statements,Brian Draper and Tory Adamek.
So both Matt and Kassie'smother's boyfriend were cleared
based on their solid alibis.
They took polygraphs, passed 'em, andyou know, I mean, they investigated

(49:04):
'em thoroughly, but there was nothing.
Right.
And so Draper and Adamek initially liedto the police claiming that they left the
house early to see the movie that night.
And then, I mean, it, it was, itwas, it was classic, you know,
police interrogation tactics.
Right.
We went to the movie,what was the movie about?

(49:25):
Mm-hmm.
Had no freaking clue.
No idea.
No freaking clue.
Like.
This is how dumb thesetwo little shits are.

Angela (49:33):
And what were you making out with each other during the movie?
Doubtful,

John (49:35):
right.
So their alibi fellapart very, very quickly.
A little discussion aboutCassie's body and stuff like that.
So forewarning like I do every time.
If you don't like hearingabout this kind of stuff.
Fast forward, uh, a bit to get pastthis part, but she was found lying.
Face up on the living room floor, dressedin yellow pajama pants, decorated with

(49:58):
stars in a white spaghetti strap tank top.
Her arms were above her head, elbowsbent, and her face turned to the right.
The scene was described as horrific,blood soaked into the carpet, splattered
on the furniture, on the walls, and.
They even talked about this, um,metallic kind of sweetness that was

(50:21):
in the air from the blood, which Ooh.
I've heard of, I've heard like,you know, detectives describe that.
Yeah.
You can almost taste the blood inthe air, you know, in a scene like
this, um, caddie's, Cassie's body wasdisplayed, Cassie's body displayed
full lividity, which indicated that shehad been dead for quite a long time.

Angela (50:43):
Right.

John (50:44):
The medical examiner, Dr. Charles Garrison ruled Cassie's cause of death
is multiple stab wounds to the trunk.
She suffered approximately 30 stab wounds.
Some reports say 29, others say 30.
Not really that important betweenthe two, but just right of note.
Um, the wounds were de lacerationswith injuries inflicted on her chest,

(51:08):
neck, trunk, abdomen, back, andlimbs between nine and 12 of these
wounds, wounds were considered fatal.
The majority of the fatal woundsstruck the right ventricle of her
heart leading to massive internalbleeding and a very rapid death,
which thank God for something small

Angela (51:29):
favors

John (51:30):
right.
Notably wound number one, a nonserrated bleed wound, pierced the
right ventricle and was identifiedas potentially fatal in itself.
Most other fatal wounds, 11 of the 12 weredelivered by the serrated blade knife.
The sheer number in distributionof wounds, including repeated

(51:52):
stabs, even after potential fatalinjuries, confirmed the attack
was one of the extreme overkill.
Yeah,
Cassie fought back withextraordinary courage.
The autopsy revealed numerousdefensive wounds to her hands and
her forearms, a sign of her desperateeffort to fend off the attackers.

(52:14):
The nine one one call that reportedher death mentioned that she was
missing a finger, which is consistentwith the violence of the attack.
Then when trying to blockor grab for the weapon.
Forensic analysis confirmed at leasttwo distinct weapons were used.
One, a serrated blade, a foldingknife, the other, a single

(52:35):
bladed non serrated knife.
These corresponded to the daggerstyle weapon used by Drake bur, and
the hunting knife used by Adamic bothrecovered after their confessions.
The use of two weapons and the patternof wounds further implicated two
perpetrators directly in the killing.

(52:55):
And then DNA and blood evidence foundin BlackRock Canyon directly linked
these two dipshits to the crime.
Cassie's blood was recovered on theserrated folding knife and on the
cuff of some Calvin Kle, uh, CalvinKlein back, a Calvin Klein black shirt
that was worn by Draper Draper's.

(53:15):
DNA was found underneath thefingernails of both of Cassie's hands,
disproving his earlier claim that hehad never touched her or stabbed her.
He never did anything.

Angela (53:25):
Mm-hmm.

John (53:26):
Adam X's DNA was later found on one of the white and red blood mimicking
masks that was left with the evidence.
So these forensic links werethe cornerstone in securing
their, their later convictions.
So.
Initially the investigation beganwith Matt Beckham, obvious reasons.

(53:48):
He was Cassie's boyfriend.
He was the last knownperson to see her alive.
He cooperated fully with theinvestigators, gave a very detailed
timeline, and he passed a polygraph.
And so they cleared him as a suspect.
And then, like I mentionedbefore, Cassie's mother's
boyfriend whose fingerprintswere on the basement fuse box.

(54:10):
But he explained that he had doneelectrical repairs earlier that month at
the home, and he had a solid alibi andwas cleared early on in the investigation.
So.
Police obviously turned to the two dipshits, which Matt was like, yeah, I, I
saw her, but so did these two dip shits.
So, yeah.
So they both initially claimed thatthey left the house after around

(54:33):
nine 30 and went to the movies andsaid that they saw the film Pulse,
which I never heard of that movie.
I, yeah, I've seen it,but it wasn't great.
Like I said, they, they askedhim, oh, okay, what was it about?
They had no freaking clue.
They'd never seen it.
They couldn't even tellwhat actors ran it.
They knew nothing about thismovie that chose as their alibi.

(54:57):
So detectives confirmed with a theateremployer of a theater employee, he, who
was also a classmate of all these kids,that they weren't there that night and
he would've known 'em because he wentto school with these two dip shits.
Mm-hmm.
So their alibi was justcompletely shattered.
So when the movie story failed, the boysthen changed their account claiming that

(55:19):
they spent the night burglarizing cars.
Again, they had no details of any ofthis, and it was easily disproven.
So Draper eventually slipped up inthe interview and referenced that
Cassie had been stabbed, and thatwas a detail that had not been
released at all at this point.

(55:40):
And so finally, after being toldthat he's, he was gonna have
to take a polygraph, this dumblittle shit just broke down.
He confessed that they had unlockedthe basement door hours, or he,
he's so tough that Tori startedstabbing Cassie while Draper watched.
Draper denied stabbing Cassiecompletely at first claiming, yeah.

(56:01):
And then claiming, oh, I only stabbedher because Tory made me do it.
And so then he leads investigators andhis, his dad was along with them, leads
investigators to BlackRock Canyon wherepolice recovered the following evidence.
Four knives, including a serratedone with Cassie's blood on

(56:23):
it, bloody gloves and clothes.
The Calvin Klein's shirt that I mentionedbefore and the stupid scream masks, a
partially burned Sony VHS tape, whichwas ultimately restored and it captured
the death list, the murder planning andDraper's giddy post killing confession.

(56:45):
And then in a subsequent interview,after hearing that Adamek had also
been, was also being questionedand faced mounting evidence.
Draper admitted to stabbing Cassiefour times because Tory made him.

Angela (57:00):
Yeah.

John (57:00):
So when it become clear that Draper had confessed in that the buried evidence
implicated, both of 'em adamant endedquestioning by requesting an attorney.
So both six 16 year olds were arrestedon September the 27th, 2006, and
charged with first degree murder andconspiracy to commit first degree.

(57:23):
So, I mean, I do just gotta mention,it's so freaking bizarre to me.
They videotaped like thiswhole freaking thing and then
immediately burn the videotape.

Angela (57:34):
Yeah, but

John (57:35):
they don't even do it right?
'cause they try to use hydrogenperoxide to freaking burn it.
So.
These two kids are just dumberthan freaking clumps of hair.
Yes, thank God they are.
But they are.
They are so given their brutality,the planning and age of Lego
responsibility, both of these twolittle shits we're tried as adults.

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In separate 2007 trials, prosecutorsargued that the killers were driven
by a desire for notoriety, inspiredby Columbine for Draper and the Scream
movies For Adam, the key evidencewas the recovered videotape, which
captured the teens describing theirmurderous plan, documenting their death

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list, and boasting after the crime.
A direct contradiction to thedefense claim that it was all
a prank or a movie script,

Angela (58:30):
a prank.

John (58:31):
Yeah.
The medical examiner testifiedregarding the two knives.
The weapons matched thosepurchased by Draper and Adamek.
With the help of JoeLaRusso, who also testified.
Each defendant tried to blamethe other Draper, claimed Adamek
orchestrated and committed the murders.

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While adamant insisted that he wasmerely a bystander pressured by
Draper and the jury saw through theirfreaking stupid defenses, especially
given the physical and the digitalevidence, it's on freaking video.
You dumb shit.
No doubt.
Brian Draper was convicted of first degreemurder and conspiracy to commit first

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degree murder on April the 17th, 2007.
Tory adamant was convicted of bothcounts on June 8th, 2007, both received
mandatory life sentences withoutparole, plus an additional 30 years to
life for conspiracy to commit murder.
And the judge sentenced, or the judgejustified the sentence by citing the

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risk the boys pose to society and thechilling evidence of premeditation.
I mean, you can find thesevideos and you can watch 'em.
Yeah, they have videos of themtalking about this days before,
and I mean, they're so cruel.
They're like.
It's too badass to be Cassie.
'cause I really like Cassie,but somebody's gotta die.

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Oh geez.
I mean, shit like that.
That's not a direct quote, but it'spretty much you need at least get
the tone that they were like, yeah,we won't really care who it is.
We just wanna start killing peoplebecause in order to get our numbers up
to surpass like Bundy and the Columbinekillers, we gotta start somewhere.
So I guess it's just gotta be Cassie.

Angela (01:00:19):
Not that I want 'em to, but why didn't they start in a school
then, if they were so Columbine heavy?

John (01:00:25):
I don't understand these, this crime at all.
None of, no part of this.

Angela (01:00:30):
No.

John (01:00:30):
Makes sense.
Well, we don't understand

Angela (01:00:31):
many crimes.

John (01:00:33):
No, but this one is just, this one is so weirdly, I mean,

Angela (01:00:38):
yeah.

John (01:00:39):
You know in, in like some of the crimes, there's like this sexual
motivation or something, this depravitythat they're attracted to young
girls or whatever the case may be.
You don't understand it, but there's likesomething that you can at least explain it
with Kind of, kind of, yeah, a little bit.
These two dip shits.
I got nothing, man.

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It's like a total fricking mystery.
And you know, with like a, some ofthe school shooters and whatnot,
they're like, um, picked on bully.
They're, they're pany ass little bitchesthat, you know, can't actually be men
and like face their freaking bullies orwhatever, so they just kill everybody.
Right.
But they target like the onesthat like, you know, I don't

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know, picked on 'em or whatever.
These two, when Cassie didn't donothing, they no ax to grind with her.
She just simply was gonnabe at this house alone.
And so it was an opportunity to kill.
It wouldn't have mattered if it was her.
It could have been literallyany of their classmates and they

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would've done the same thing.
It's so freaking bizarre to me.
I just, it's really hard toget my mind wrapped around.
Yeah.
So Brian Draper dip shit,worthless piece of shit.
Number one is currently incarceratedat the Idaho State Correctional
Institute in Kuna, Idaho.
It's a maximum security prison operatedby the Idaho Department of Corrections,

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and Tory Adamic is serving hissentence at the same freaking place.
Some source of joy, some source.
Clarified that for a period he wastransferred to URA Correctional Center in
Arizona, that as of 2025, he is primarilylisted as being in the Idaho system.

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So.
Both men live under harsh,tightly regulated conditions.
As is typical for inmates with lifesentences in maximum security, they're
confined to small cells for most hoursof the day with controlled movements for
meals, showers, and limited re recreation.
Prisoners convicted of highlypublicized or notorious crimes

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often spend much of their time insegregation for their own safety.
I say, put these little shits ingin pop and just let 'em have 'em.
A hundred percent.
Draper adamant do not maintain contactwith each other, though occasionally
they'll pass each other in prison.
They remain silent and avoid anyaction, any interaction with each other.
Adam X's appeal, history, and statushave kept him under scrutiny, sometimes

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leading to reviews or changes insecurity, classifi classification
and limited access programs.
So a couple of noteworthyexperiences and statements.
Draper has occasionally communicatedremorse when interviewed by reporters, um,
stating I regret it every day of my life.

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However, there's no indication thathe has been able to move beyond his
infamy or earn any privilege beyondbasic prisoner routine, adamant.
And at times his mother havemaintained his innocence,
which blows my freaking mind.
Or minimized his role.
It was all his friend made him do it.

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Mm-hmm.
He just picked thewrong friends, whatever.
Yeah.
Even as his numerous appeals andattempts to challenge sentencing
have failed reports, describehim as quiet and withdrawn.
Both of these two pieces of shit areineligible for parole, thank God.
Yeah.
And will almost certainlyremain incarcerated for life.
Die in there.

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Subject to internal transfer reviewsbased on discipline or rare federal
developments in sentencing law,it's not likely these two little
shits are ever getting out good.
So for them, life is structured withprecise schedules, wake up counts,
chow work, details if they're eligible.

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Limited access to recreation yardsor reading materials, occasional
classes and mandatory lockdowns.
Contact with the outside world isrestricted to supervised visits, monitored
mail, and rare time-limited phone callsoften to attorneys or immediate family.
I think it was a Dateline special wherethey were actually able to interview one

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of these little shits over the phone.
But for the most part, they're just lockedaway and we can all forget about 'em.
Good.
'cause they're worthless pieces of shit.
So.
Being as high profile as they are.
Neither is likely trusted with any kindof sensitive jobs in prison outside of
their housing units, and both enduregreater surveillance than most inmates.

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Cassie Joe Stoddard's Murder is oftenremembered under the headline, the Scream
Murder, but reducing it to a nickname.
Risks.
Forgetting the truth, Cassiewasn't a character in a film.
She wasn't a role to be filledor a victim in a script.
She was a daughter, a student, a friend.

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She had a smile, her family loved,and a sense of responsibility that
earned their trust and dreams thatreached far beyond a quiet Idaho town.
She deserved the chance tosee those dreams through.
Her life was stolen, not by massstrangers, not by faceless horror,
but by people that she knew.

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That's the part that lingers.
Ryan Draper and Tory Adam weren'tmonsters hiding in the dark.
They were classmates, peers, twoboys who sat in the same classrooms
and walked the same hallways.
Cassie had no reason to fear them untilthe night that they chose to turn her

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into the star of their twisted fantasy.
They filmed themselves, laughed into thecamera, spoke proudly about taking a life.
They idolized killers on screen,but what they did wasn't a movie.
There were no special effects.
No stun doubles, no rewrites.

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Only a 16-year-old girl alone in ahouse bleeding out, betrayed by people
that she thought were her friends.
That betrayal cuts deeperthan the knives they carried.
It reminds us of somethingthat we'd rather not face.
Sometimes the greatest danger isn't whatlurks outside, but who we already let in.

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For Cassie's family, there will neverbe enough words to measure the loss.
Every birthday that never came,every milestone stolen, every
day, her voice wasn't heard.
The empty chair at the table,the silence that follows in
the place of laughter for them.
Cassie's absence isn't a story.

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It's a wound that never closes.
And for the community, her murdershattered the illusion of safety.
Bann County was supposed to be quiet,steady, safe, but evil came from within.
Dressed not in a mask or a costume, butin the ordinary faces of two teenage

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boys who wanted to make fiction real.
It is tempting, especially inOctober, to think of this as a
story that aligns with the season.
A tale of horror come alive.
But to stop there is to miss the truth.
Cassie Jo's daughterwasn't a seasonal headline.

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She wasn't a proxy insomeone else's nightmare.
She was real.
Her life mattered, and rememberingher means cutting through the
sensationalism to see her for whoshe was and for what was lost.
As we close tonight, remember Cassienot as the scream murder victim, but
as a 16-year-old girl with a future.

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Remember that her killersweren't mysterious strangers.
They were familiar faces hidingdarkness behind ordinary smiles.
And remember that the scariestmonsters are sometimes the ones
who don't look frightening at all.
So tonight, as the night grows longerand the shadows stretch across your

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street, think about the trust thatwe give to the people around us.
Think about how quickly it can bebroken and how close the names and
the lives of those who never got thechance to write their own endings.
This isn't a movie.
This was Cassie Joe Otter's reality.

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Cassie Jo Sto was more than aheadline, more than a tragic story
told in hushed voices every autumn.
She was a daughter, a granddaughter,a cousin and a friend.
Born December 21st, 1989.
Cassie grew up surrounded byfamily and in a community that
knew her as a kind, dependable,young woman with a quiet strength.

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Well beyond her years.
At just 16 years old, she wasalready carving out the kind
of life that people admire.
Cassie was responsible and trustworthy.
The kind of girl her family couldrely on to care for their pets, to
look after their home, to step up.
When asked, she had a seriousnessabout her I maturity that stood out.

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But she also had a gentleness that madeher loved by those that truly knew her
Friends, remember her for creativity.
She loved art, loved expressing herself,and found joy in the small details
of life that others might overlook.
Teachers saw her not just as astudent, but as a young woman

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with the potential to go far.
Family knew her as someone who loveddeeply, who could be counted on, who was
building a future piece by piece, a futureshe should have had the chance to live.
Cassie's life was stolen fromher in one of the most horrific
and senseless ways imaginable.

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But she is not defined bythe brutality of her death.
She's defined by the way that she lived.
With kindness, responsibility,and quiet determination.
She should be remembered not as a victimin someone else's story, but as a young
woman with her own dreams, her own pathin a heart full of promise for her family.

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Cassie's absence will always be felt.
The birthdays that will neverbe celebrated, the milestones
that will never be reached.
The laughter that will neveragain echo through their homes.
Their grief is a reflection on thedeath of their love for her and the
enormous loss that the world suffered,the day that Cassie's light was taken.

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And yet even in that loss,her story continues to matter.
Cassie's name is still spoken.
Her memory carried by those whorefuse to let her be forgotten
every time her story is told.
It is not to elevate those thathurt her, but to honor the life she
should have had to remind us of theimportance of valuing every moment

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and every person that we hold close.
Cassie Jo Sto should be rememberedas a bright, dependable,
and loving 16-year-old girl.
A young woman with a future stolenfar too soon in her memory, may we
carry forward not the horror of herdeath, but the warmth of her life.

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May we honor her by speaking her name,by cherishing the loved ones around us.
And by remembering that the truemeasure of a life is not in how
it ended, but in how it was lived.
Cassie deserved so much more, andtonight we keep her memory alive.

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That's where we close the storyof Cassie Joe Sto, tonight, 16
years old with a future that sheshould have had the chance to live.
Cassie wasn't a characterin a horror film.
She was a daughter, a friend, and a youngwoman whose life mattered and remembering
her means seen past the headlines.
And never letting her name fade.

Angela (01:12:58):
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remembered and to make sure theirstories still echo even years later.

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