Beer Money (2001) with Jim and Staring Jon

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Jim (00:11):
Sick 10 to midnight poster, by the way, that's rad.

Chris (00:15):
Yeah, that was, uh, sent to me by one Brantley Palmer
of the Horror Drafts podcast.
It was good times.
Nice.
I look at it every single day fora long period of time because I
pull up my little exercise bike andthe fan in the room is right here.
So I sit under the fan and stare atCharles Bronson while I'm working out.

(00:37):
Yeah.
Gives you the drive.
I get it.
Forget what's legal and do what'sright is what it says on the poster.
I guess.
Mustache

Jim (00:46):
growing a

Chris (00:46):
little bit.
That's probably subconsciouslywhere I was like, I need to
do better with my mustache.
Just staring at that poster all day.

Jon (00:53):
Wow.
Now that we're doing the science.
Yep.
Yeah.
I see it.

Jim (00:56):
Yeah.
Nice.
Yeah.
I think the last time, maybe the timebefore we potted, I had complimented you
because your hair at the time and yourfacial hair looked very early Bronson
esque and you got a, you got a sheepishlook on your face and Steve was like, Oh

Chris (01:14):
yeah, I just need to start smoking way more cigarettes to
just get those, those deep creases.
Yeah.
Yeah, those are some city miles.
Yeah, dude fucking rules.
So yeah, hello everyone and welcometo dead formats a movie podcast where
each episode We look to the skies insearch of unidentified filmic objects

(01:39):
I'm your host Chris in this episode.
We're going to be discussing a USA Networkoriginal beer money from 2001 And today,
I am joined by two very special guests whohave both passed the pigs a time or two.
Jim and Staring John.
Welcome, boys.
How are you doing this evening?

Jon (01:58):
Good, good, good.
Great to be here.
Real excited.
Got the message.
And I said, I'm gonna jump right on that.

Jim (02:04):
Hell yeah.
Word.
Yeah.
Same.
Super excited to be here.
Anytime I get the call from old Chris,it's, uh, uh, I'll be there no matter
what picture that meme of Mbappe.

Chris (02:16):
Well, I appreciate both of you guys taking time out
of your week to watch this.
Uh, movie,
it's the best way to say it.
So Jim is, uh, one half of wax ofthe waxing the porpoise podcast.
And John is a former cohost of the Sin Amigos.
So, uh, boys tell the listenersa little bit about what you do.

Jim (02:41):
I'll take it real quick first, uh, we're, we're actually on a little bit
of a hiatus, uh, waxing the porpoise,but, uh, all of our stuff's still up,
so if you want to check us out, uh, wedo, like, movie reviews and kind of a
mixed grab bag of, uh, you know, highstrangeness, kind of true crime type
of stuff to break it up, but primarily,uh, movie reviews with my other

(03:01):
half, Steve, who is a film neophyte.
So I get to make him watch all the stuffhe's been missing out on for years.
Uh, I know that's a, a real novel,uh, topic for, for a show, but,
uh, yeah, we have a good time.
Chris has been on therea handful of times.
And so has John.
Uh, and, uh, yeah, check us out if youfeel like it, maybe we'll be back TBD.

(03:22):
I don't know when, so

Chris (03:24):
yeah, definitely, uh, go check out that Orca episode where
all three of us are on that as well.

Jon (03:29):
Yeah.

Chris (03:32):
But how about you, John?

Jon (03:34):
Yeah, so I did a podcast with the Sin Amigos for a little over a year.
Uh, fantastic guys.
It was a great time.
Lots of good episodes up there.
Uh, same idea, same premise.
Just each week, us three, someone's,you know, talking about a film that the
other guys hadn't seen, and we just kindof shoot the shit about it, and Uh, you

(03:55):
know, one guy is always trying to tieit to every other movie we've fucking
watched and, you know, but it's great.
Uh, they're, they're great guys.
Check them out.
Sin amigos, uh, all socials are pretty,you'll, you'll find them sin amigos.
It's on Spotify.
That's where I always listen to it.
Uh, but yep, had to, had to step away.
Life just got a little too busyand so, uh, they're still kicking.

(04:16):
Make sure you check them out.
It's a, it's a great show.

Chris (04:19):
Hell yeah.
And you also do some,uh, streaming on Twitch.
If you want to talkabout that a little bit.

Jon (04:24):
Yes, absolutely.
So twitch.
tv slash kinetic onslaught O N S L O T.
Yes, I am aware.
That is not how onslaught is spelled.
Uh, Retro Games, uh, everyTuesday, Thursday, 30 PM.
Cruise on by.
It's a live platform, so talk some shit.
You hear something you don't likehere, please come let me know.

(04:46):
Hell yeah.
Forgive me, I

Jim (04:48):
don't I don't follow regularly, but have you guys Have you covered,
uh, Legacy of the Wizard yet?

Jon (04:54):
No, not yet.
Not yet.
That one looks fucking brutal.

Jim (05:00):
Yeah, it's rough, man.
That's one of those ones up therewith like, maybe not quite with the
Battletoads, NES hover bike race.
But yeah, like if you don't have a guideor know what the fuck like you're doing.
Yeah.
I, I, I spent a lot of hours on like thefirst two levels, but still just had a

Jon (05:18):
hell of a time with it.
But yeah.
Yeah, common NES problem.
They wanted to, uh, sellfucking Nintendo power subs.
So it's like, Hey, we'll just makeall these games where they have to
go get the fucking Nintendo power.

Chris (05:31):
Or, uh, call the fucking hotline back in the day.
Yup.

Jon (05:36):
Some dude on the phone

Chris (05:37):
plays

Jon (05:37):
along with you and tells you what to do.
There's a lot of funny clips onYouTube if someone feels inclined to
go check it out of like a guy walkinghim through his day at that job.
It's fucking hilarious.

Chris (05:50):
That would have been the best fucking job in the world though.
It's so good.
Helping people beat Swamp Thing.

Jon (05:55):
Yeah, oh god, Swamp Thing is so terrible.

Chris (05:59):
Yeah.
Well, good times.
Uh, so everybody be sure to check out, uh,Whatever Jim and John have got going on.
And, uh, so our dead format this weekis made for TV movies, specifically
one that was a hair's breadthaway from becoming lost media.
And I'm 99 percent positive that Iknow the answer to this question, but

(06:20):
we're either of you familiar with beermoney before watching it for this cast.
No, hard, hard blank space for

Jim (06:29):
me.
I wanted to say it vaguely, I was awareof it, but, uh, I think I was confusing
it with beer league, the Artie Lang,which I haven't seen also, but just like
the beer in front of it and it beinglike, you know, some like trashy, like
thing that was like a USA original.
That's what I.

(06:49):
Cheers.
Connected my brain.
But yeah, once I got into it, I was like,no, I've never fucking seen this, but
funny enough, I actually asked my wife,I was like, have you ever heard of it?
Cause she's seen some weirdshit, a lot of made for TV stuff.
She's like, yeah, I think it wascalled something else though.
Cause her dad used to rip stuff on VHSand steal neighbor's cable and shit.
Like he had all kinds oflike, he was kind of like a.

(07:11):
Like a hoarder of media stuffin the early days, like an early
adopter of like beta and shit andlike has a bunch of laser discs.
And, uh, so maybe they got it,but I looked at it and it saw it
was close encounters of the nerd,the alternate title, but I think
that's in the UK or maybe Canada.
So I don't know, maybe he got an illegal,an old black box, Canadian plug, something

(07:36):
fucking alien movies remembered it.
Cause she's a big, uh, Made forTV fan and she likes, she's a fan
of Mark Paul Gosselaar as well.
So she has, we all should be,

Jon (07:47):
yep.
The ladies love them.

Chris (07:49):
Yeah.
So a bit of a backstory on thisone, uh, like we were talking about,
it's a USA network, original film.
Um, it first aired on June 19th,2001, and it has never been
released on any physical format andis not on any streaming service.
So how I have this is that about fouryears ago, I was going through some old

(08:12):
tapes that I had, I was looking for.
A USA network airing of child's playthree that I was certain I had on tape
and I found a tape that was labeledchild's play one, two, and three,
put it in the VCR and digitized it.
But, uh, to my dismay, uh, the labelwas incorrect because I had taped over

(08:32):
child's play three with this movie.
Uh, so if anyone has a copy ofchild's play three taped off the
USA network sometime in the latenineties or early two thousands.
Uh, still looking for it.
So hit me up.
Don't fuck with the Chuck.
Yes, exactly.
But that, see, that specifically is whyI want it because to this day, like I

(08:54):
watched it so many times on this VHS thatI can remember that that line was, don't
mess with the Chuck on network television.
Okay.
And so I was

Jim (09:03):
just about to ask why specifically did you want the USA airing is,
and it's, is it because of all thelike, Idiosyncratic inserts for
the curse words that they put in.
Yeah,

Chris (09:13):
something, something kids today don't know anything about.
I mean, the Happy Gilmoreone was great too.
Gold jacket, greenjacket, who gives a goo?
Or, uh, from Dusk Till Dawn, I thinkGeorge Clooney refers to him and Quentin
like we're two mean motor scooters.
Oh, dude,

Jon (09:33):
that

Chris (09:33):
one

Jon (09:33):
had to be wild on you.
Oh yeah, I'm sure it was like

Chris (09:37):
45 minutes long.
The dialogue is dubbed over.

Jim (09:41):
Yeah, dude.
I remember what was it?
Uh, dazed and confused.
And when towards the end, when, uh,Ben Affleck was like, did you hear
what this motherfuckers mom did?
She pulled a shotgun on me.
He, it was monster Joker.
That was one of my favorite concertsfor motherfucker in a, I think
it was probably a superstation.

(10:02):
Hell yeah.

Chris (10:03):
TNT joint.
Yeah.
So, uh, but anyway, like I saw thismovie when I was like going through
and I was like, Oh yeah, beer money.
Yeah.
I remember that.
But I still do quotethis movie quite often.
No, and it's, it's nothing youwould expect, but we'll get to it.
And so I found this and I did someinternet searching and it was like,

(10:24):
Oh, this is not anywhere online.
It's.
Never, it was not released on tape or DVD.
So I put it up there and it was theonly way you could watch it for about
four years, but apparently in thepast few months, someone else uploaded
a higher quality rip to YouTube.
Mm hmm.
But if myself and this other personhad not done that, there would

(10:44):
be no way to watch this film.
You know, it was interesting after

Jim (10:48):
I saw this on the link that you provided, I went to go check
just out of pure curiosity, whatthe quality was like on the YouTube.
And was like uploadedlike four months ago.
And it's funny cause I only checked out.
I kind of breezed through the first30 minutes because I couldn't, the
first 30 minutes of this film areparticularly unbearable for me.

(11:08):
Um, but I wanted to see if there was likea regional variance in the commercials.
And
there was, uh, a slight difference at the beginning.
So I'd be interested to see like, or,or no, like where, what TV market,
that person was in versus you.

(11:29):
Well, yeah, I'm glad

Jon (11:30):
that you brought that up because I watched almost the exact same situation.
I was at the house, got through likeprobably 45 to 50 minutes of it.
And same thing.
Cause at first when you sent it, I waslike, Oh, word, check Amazon, you know,
fuck it, I'll just pay the 3, rent it.
And it was just like, there'ssorry, this exists fucking nowhere.

(11:52):
So I was like, all right, go to YouTube.
Like same, same idea.
Type it in.
And yeah, Jim is right.
Cause that was onecomment I wanted to make.
Like the com the commercialswere God, like, like watching
2000s commercials in 2024 is.
That was half the fun.
Yeah, that was, uh, that was amazing.
I would say that was

Jim (12:13):
89.
5 percent the fun for me,as I'm sure we'll get into.
Like, I'm like, I'm glad thiswasn't available somewhere else.
And then we had to watch theVHS rip because yeah, like
it, it's, it took me back.
Yeah.

Chris (12:28):
I could have sent you guys the link to that YouTube
video, but I wanted you guys to.
It's it actually is like that one onYouTube is the best possible scenario for
a VHS rip like it is pretty fucking good.
Yeah, it's pretty clean.
Yeah.
But I wanted you guys to have thesame, the true VHS experience and
you know, share the same commercials.

(12:50):
Yeah, they were awesome.
So, do either of you guys haveany, like, memories of this time?
Like, were there any made for TV movieslike this that you were hyped for?
Or do you remember, like, tapingmovies from TV and re watching them
over and over again like I did?

Jon (13:06):
For me, it was just Pokémon.
I fucking recorded every episode ofPokemon and I felt so fucking big brained
because I would stop during I wouldpause the recording during commercials
and then hit play after the commercials.
I was like, Oh my God, I can go backand watch Pokemon with no commercials.
Like it was just it was, but otherthere was, there wasn't a whole lot

(13:30):
of like specific made for TV stuff.
Uh, I'm thirty, oh shit,I'm gonna be thirty six.
I'm thirty five, right?
So it wasn't, I think, I'm notsure how old you are, Chris,
but I think I'm thirty six.
Okay, okay.
So I, I, for me, I just, I never reallygot into the, I mainly played video
games when I was younger anyways.

(13:50):
But, um, specifically like made for TVstuff, nothing that really rings a bell
for me personally, but Pokemon, yes.

Chris (13:58):
Hell yeah.
Pokemon?

Jim (13:59):
Pokemon?
Uh, yeah, I, I, I, I don't think I evercaught how old you actually were, Chris,
but I'm, so I'm, uh, I just turned 40or I'm about to turn 40 next month.
So I had a little bit, a slightly,uh, different experience.
Even those four years, I feellike are, are pretty significant
in this time period, turningpoint of like two 99 to 2001.

(14:23):
Cause that's when like.
DVDs came out in like 2001.
I think the last VHS was 98 or 99, 2006 in

Chris (14:32):
America.

Jim (14:33):
Oh, really?
A history of violence.
Okay.
I got the dates backwards,but anyway, yeah.
During that time.
So like, I remember fucking, uh, whereyou would buy movies on pay per view.
Uh, like through the preview channel.
Hell yeah.
Fucking scroller thing.
And I remember the very firstthing I taped over, or I taped,

(14:54):
was the Frighteners, becauseit was a huge Frighteners head.
I came out in like nine, thesummer of 97, uh, after it was in
theaters and I taped that and Ithought I was fucking pimp shit.
Yeah.
And, um.
I remember finding the first time Isaw Ghostbusters was we, I went to
a fucking garage sale and someonehad a bunch of tapes that they

(15:15):
just recorded from back in the day.
So it was like a fucking, like a ripfrom like 1986 someone had copied
over onto a tape Ghostbusters.
So I saw it for the first time.
Yeah.
Um, but like made for TV stuff, Ican't, nothing really jumps out, but
there was this really funky, likeone, the special about, like, I think

(15:37):
it was maybe a pilot that never.
Got picked up, but it was on Fox, andit was like this dude who was like, it
was kind of like X Files, but like supercheeseball and campy, and it was in, like,
New Orleans, and he was like a sheriffof a parish or something, and like this
weird supernatural shit was going on.

(15:59):
And I, I've tried searching Reddit,like, I don't know what the fuck it was.
I don't remember anybody who was in it,but it could have also just been like
one of those weird one offs like, likeprograms used to make like these weird,
funky, like hour, hour and 15 minute,like just one off show special kind of
movie things, but it wasn't quite a movie.

(16:20):
That's one I really wish I had back.
I wish I would have taped thatbecause that was fucking dope.
But yeah, when I saw this too,I was like, that dude, that's so
crazy that back during this timethey had USA original movies.
And then there was a preview for likea sci fi original during this too
that looked fucking absolute trash.

Chris (16:42):
Yeah, I mean it's fun.
That's that's why it's a dead format cuzit's uh, I mean everything's streaming
now Technically, I think like Lifetimeand Hallmark still do like I know
they make a bunch of shit, but I thinkit's released Simultaneously like with
streaming and when it airs on actual TVand it's all just like hot frosty or like

Jim (17:04):
yeah Dude Christmas Scottish Christmas fucking yeah, they got
the market cornered on the fuckingholidays, dude It's It's crazy.

Jon (17:13):
Yeah.
My wife eats that shit up too.
And it's like, it's always all, all Mark,you get in the car, it's the two fucking
holiday channels and it's a Hallmarkoriginal Christmas movies is her shit.

Jim (17:26):
Yeah.
I

Jon (17:26):
feel like that's

Jim (17:26):
become like, like into the mainstream and they're just open the
floodgates on how much, like justthe volume of those, like Hallmark
and lifetime, like, like, especiallythis year I was like, dude, it's like
a, Like they just opened up a dam.
It seems up more for sure.
Yeah.

Chris (17:44):
Yeah.
Or possibly just like we're gettingto the age where people start
watching that shit or we're becomingthe old people that watch just
like throw away Christmas movies.
Good times, good times.
So, I guess with that, I mean,we can probably start getting
into the plot of this bad boy.

(18:07):
So, Beer Money.
This was directed by JoshuaButler, who hasn't really directed
anything that anyone's heard of.
Although, he did direct a sequel to themovie Prancer, called Prancer Returns.
And he just directed a film in 2024called My child has my doctor's face.
Dude, I saw that.

(18:28):
That's 100 percent the shit Iwatch, that's like Lifetime.
I like the trashier stuff like that.

Jim (18:33):
Oh yeah, that looked brutal.
Yeah,

Chris (18:36):
sounds awesome.
The movie opens up with our lead, MarkPaul Gosselaar, Zach Morris himself, who
is playing a character named Tim Maroon.
Driving down a dark, wooded backroad and singing along to the song
Little Fingers by Apocalypse Hoboken.
And, uh, this is one of the manypop punk songs featured throughout

(18:58):
the film in case you were to everforget that this came out in 2001.

Jim (19:02):
Yeah.

Chris (19:04):
I feel

Jim (19:04):
like every cut to action, like every cut that they do is like Like has
that exclamation point of that like poppunk fucking kind of like like yeah It's
yeah, it's like all over was a smashmouth pop punk type stuff Bangers, I
kind of actually like that first one.

(19:24):
I looked it up and found it on Yeah,

Chris (19:26):
that's how I know the name of the band is that you

Jim (19:28):
looked it up and said to me Yeah, the first one was actually kind of catchy

Chris (19:34):
Yeah, I had, uh, considered, I did look on IMDB to see if they had a
list of all the songs, and when theydidn't, I was like, I'm not gonna fuckin
watch this and shazam all this shit, so.
Um, Tim is distracted by the radio, andas his car drifts into the wrong lane,
uh, he's, he's about to get into a headon collision, and the oncoming headlights

(19:55):
fly over his car and into the sky.
It's a goddamn spaceship.
We got our title card and a sign that letsus know we're in the town of Eureka and
now I don't think it's ever explicitlystated that this is Eureka, California,
but it is a town called Eureka and allthe license plates are California plates.

(20:15):
I think

Jon (20:15):
they do.
I think they say Eureka, California.
Okay.
And I was

Chris (20:19):
wondering, since both of you are from or have lived in the
general area, I'm assuming at leastone of you has been to Eureka before.

Jon (20:28):
Well, I had a question for Jim, because I kind of, is this, why is, is it,
why Rica and there, or is there two towns?
Is it why Rica and Eureka?

Jim (20:38):
There's two.
Yeah, why Rica is more inland.
Mm hmm.
And it's more of like a, uh, I might betalking a little out of school, but I
think it's more of like a logging kindof, uh, town, and it's kind of, it's kind
of just you're, It reminds me of kindof like Dunsmuir, like just before you
get up to Redding, Mount Shasta is kindof like a mountain sort of logging town,

(21:00):
but yeah, it's actually, I think it's apretty far stretch from Wyricka to Eureka.
It's like another hour and ahalf before you get to the coast.

Jon (21:10):
Yeah, because I wasn't sure which it was and I was like, all right, is this
just where they just don't realize it's.
Why Rika?
They're calling it Eureka.
So I just, but, so Eureka I'm nottoo familiar with, but why Rika?
Yes.

Jim (21:22):
Yeah, I've been to both, and, uh, I mean, it's just a, it's a, a sleepy,
kind of rainy, coastal, seaside kindof town, uh, with a heavy emphasis on,
like, at the end, I really knew thatthat's, The region they were going for,
because he's like, go tell him to HumperRedwood or whatever the hell they do.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like famous for theRedwood forest and stuff.

(21:45):
So, uh, I can't, I think I did lookup and they, they had filming location
and it wasn't, I think it was, um,

Chris (21:52):
it was in British Columbia.
Yeah.
And I was going to ask you ifthere was a specific point in the
film where you're like, there's noway this was in California or did

Jim (22:02):
Yeah, it's pretty, Eureka is pretty kind of generic coastal town.
I think it's just like with like you canplug and play like disturbing behavior.
I'm sure we'll get into thattakes place in Seattle that was
filmed in, in Vancouver and thesurrounding sounds and environs.
So, yeah, it's prettymuch copy paste that.

(22:22):
So.

Chris (22:23):
It, the only location they had listed was in British
Columbia, but there is a scene whenthey're in the forest on a bridge.
And I'm fairly certain that islike from the national forest or
state forest that's around Eureka.
Cause when I looked up pictures,like I did see that bridge.
So some of it may have actuallybeen filmed in California, but

(22:44):
yeah, I was just curious because.
I lived in Texas for a long time.
So now my movie superpower is to justbe like, that's not fucking Texas.
Like I recently that, uh, Texas chainsawthat came out like two years ago.
Immediately.
I was like, that's not fuckingTexas when he's like standing
in a field of sunflowers.

(23:05):
And then like later, like a yearlater, I went to Bulgaria where it
was actually shot and there's justa shit ton of sunflowers everywhere.
I was like, Oh, hell yeah.
This looks nothing like Texas.
Damn.

Jim (23:17):
Yeah, there wasn't anything stark that jumped out like that.
It's like, oh, that's horseshit.
That's not the northern California coast.

Chris (23:26):
Yeah, I guess all things considered, you know, Vancouver
could, like you said, could passfor Seattle or Portland or Yeah.
Just that general area.

Jim (23:37):
Really, it could pass for the entire western coast seaboard until
probably you get down to like SanFrancisco is where it starts kind of
changing once you get to San Francisco.
And then, I mean, shit, it couldprobably even stand in for like
Monterey, but I think once you getpast that, down to like Half Moon
Bay, down to like, San Luis Obispo,Santa Barbara, then it's definitely

(23:59):
got a different flavor vibe of coast.
But it's just, yeah, that's superwoody kind of dreary, rainy gray
overcast coast, which I love.
That's my favorite climate of all time.
Hell yeah.

Chris (24:14):
Anyway, uh, Tim, he's back in his hometown after failing to make
it as a weatherman in Los Angeles.
And he very quickly rekindles hisfriendship with his high school bud,
David Rutt Rutledge, played by Nick Von S.
March.
Did you guys recognize this dude?

Jon (24:32):
I did not, and then I tried to look, I looked at some of the stuff
on IMDB and still was like, I don't,he, cause he has that familiar look,
like, I was like, this guy is, hedefinitely seemed like somebody,
but I could not piece it together.

Chris (24:45):
His face is definitely kind of like, proto Farva
from, you know, Super troopers.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
A little bit.
Like you just put a cop stash on him,but so this is another thing that's super
like late nineties, early two thousands.
He was in this show called Nikki starringNikki Cox, who was like someone that
nobody knows now, but she was likesuper hot for like a four year period.

(25:09):
She was in this show called unhappily everafter that was basically like married with
children, except there was also a talkingrabbit voiced by Bobcat Goldthwait.
And so, yeah, that showwas like somewhat popular.
And then she got her own showcalled Nikki and he was like her
boyfriend or husband or something.

(25:29):
So that's the only placeI recognize him from.
Remembering something from20 years ago, vaguely, dude,

Jim (25:37):
that's super weird.
Could you bring that up?
Because I just saw that, that showunhappily married ever after whatever.
And they were like, look how batshitthe shit was because it showed a
clip and like, he went downstairsand that, that talking rabbit.
Was giving like horrible advice and itkind of took like a weird, like dark
turn and then someone was like, I can'tbelieve this was on, this was on the air

(25:58):
for like four seasons or five seasons.
I was like, holy shit.
I was like, that was atotal blind spot to me.
And it seemed like such a weird thing.
I mean, I know we hadAlf and stuff, but like.
It just seemed so weird thatthat kind of a show would have
stuck around for that long.
Yeah, it

Chris (26:14):
was a weird time for sure.
I watched that show when itwas on, but I remember nothing
about it other than the rabbit.
He's

Jim (26:21):
no elf, that's for sure.

Chris (26:23):
Yeah, I was probably like 11.
I didn't get half the jokes anyway.

Jon (26:28):
Dude, can we talk about this L.
A.
weatherman or bust fucking plotline?
Yeah, go for it, go for it.
This is fucking crazy.
I thought that was hilarious.
It was like, you just got to getyour face on TV, get you working.
And it was just like duringthat time period, right?
Like early, like 2000, 2001.

(26:48):
And, uh, Oh fuck.
I can't remember the name he says,but he's like, he's who he's like,
he started off as a, as a localweatherman and he's Letterman, I
think he said, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it just it just seems so funny whereit just like that Hollywood set where
it's like I just got to get to LA andmake it on TV like I was fucking dying.

(27:09):
I was like, nah, this is a good setup.
This is going to be good.
Yeah, his fucking hair.

Jim (27:14):
That was popular back during

Jon (27:16):
the final destination.
Fucking, uh, yeah, yeah.

Chris (27:19):
Devon saw a special.
So, uh, tagging along with Tim and Ruttis Rutt's socially awkward coworker at
Spanky's Taco Cellar, blank, played by J.
P.
Manot.
This guy's got a super familiar face.
I know,

Jim (27:36):
I, I looked at the IMDB.
He's done a lot of stuff.
I know his face is just like acheese ball in like a bunch of stuff.
And, uh, I actually liked himin this, like, I thought he

Chris (27:48):
was probably like the highlight comedically.
Yeah.

Jim (27:51):
Some of the shit he says fucking kills me.
Like the fuck when, when he's likedoubloons, I'm not falling for that again.
I want us dollars fuckinggot me pretty good.
And I was at a point with thiswhere I was like, I don't give a
fuck shit or piss about this movie.
I like, I'm like actively loathingit and like probably about that.

(28:14):
Maybe 40 percent the way, halfwaythrough this, it started to
win me over kind of weirdly.
And I, I still don't know how I feel aboutthat, but he was definitely a part of it

Jon (28:24):
for sure.
Is this a squeak, right?
He's like a fucking exactly.

Chris (28:28):
Yeah.
Basketball

Jon (28:29):
squeak.

Chris (28:30):
Yeah.
I think.
Oh, yeah.
The writing is not that strong, but heand, uh, rut do have some good comedic
timing from, or from time to time that,like you said, can pull you back in
for just, It give you, give the moviea benefit of a doubt for the next 10
minutes before something else happens.
So as these three dudes are talkingin the parking lot of the taco seller,

(28:53):
they are egged by a local gang of bikeriding kids known as the paper boys,
because they are literal paper boys.
Yeah.
And, uh, Tim tells rut andblank about his close encounter,
but they're both skeptical.
We find out that Tim is nowliving with his sister and her
husband, who is some sort of.
Um, it's, they have a huge fuckinghouse for like unemployed wife

(29:20):
and demolition derby driver.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Crash.
Yeah.
Crash.
Yeah.
That's right.
Crash is a dick, but he manages to getTim a job at a local garage, and after
Tim's walking home on his first day, afterhis first day on the job, he runs into
another friend from high school, Echo,played by Mercedes McNabb, who works at

(29:42):
the local video store owned by her father.
Did either of you recognize her?
Uh,

Jim (29:48):
I did, but I kind of, I had a suspicion I had to double check it,
so I didn't, I didn't, I can't claim Inailed it, but she was the, the chick,
the mean, I guess the mean girl, themain mean girl from, uh, Adam's family

Chris (30:01):
values.
She sure was.
I've seen that movie so many times,so I recognized her right away and she
looks exactly the same as she does.
She

Jim (30:10):
does.

Chris (30:11):
Just like stretched, like a little

Jim (30:13):
bit taller.
She's got the same facialfeatures, everything.
Yeah.
What a name though.
Echo.

Chris (30:19):
Yeah.
I mean, you fucking Californianswith your hippie names.
Mr.
Echo.
Your hippie names like Jim and John.
Yeah.
But your middle name is moonbeam.
Yeah.
Seriously.
Well, my middle name is weird.

Jim (30:36):
I'm not going to say it.

Chris (30:37):
Yeah.
You don't have to duck.
So

Jim (30:38):
unique, but it is fucking weird.
So I'll give you that,

Chris (30:43):
uh, echo invites him over to her house for dinner the following evening,
but, uh, runs off before Tim has thechance to tell her that he already has
plans to go camping with rut and blank.
Tim bails on Echo and the threedudes go camping, they get drunk,
and play a game called Pass the Pig.
Which, ever since watchingthis movie when I was a kid, I
wanted these fucking pig dice.

(31:04):
I'm sure they're like 12 at Target,but I could just never convince
my parents to buy them for me.
And it's just I didn't know

Jim (31:11):
what the fuck this game was.
Oh,

Chris (31:13):
you've never heard of this?
No.
It's just two dice thatare shaped like pigs.
And based on the way they're, like,standing when you roll them, it's
like a different point system.
Crazy.
I

Jim (31:24):
thought it was just some, like, cheesedick game, like, that
was in the universe of this movie.
That they were just making up on the fly.

Chris (31:32):
No, it's, it's a real thing.
I think the scoring that they use isdifferent from the actual game to, like,
avoid copyright, but Yeah, it's real.
They make a lawn version with likebig pigs that you can throw up in
the air I'm an adult so I need togo get that I can afford it now.
Obviously.
Fuck you mom and dad.

Jon (31:50):
That's awesome Dude, Chris, don't forget about those rocking tit shots.
Ah, yeah, so
Video store section where we loseeverything Echo is saying and we just
really zone in on those rocking tits
. Chris: Yes.
And it cuts away to a man show esquefantasy of her jumping on a trampoline.

(32:12):
Yes.
. Jon: It was so funny.
It was funny to like spot allthe, like it was hard because.
You don't really remembereverything from that time.
Right?
Like as you're watching it, there's likecertain things that just clearly stand out
where you're like, Oh, yep, that's that.
That's that's that.
And so that, that part was,was kind of fun to do for sure.

Chris (32:31):
Yeah.
So as they're playing this gameof pass the pigs, uh, they keep.
They're, like, doing dares based on whowins the hands, and they keep upping
the stakes with a series of increasinglydepraved shit that culminates in
blank having to lick a dog's balls.
This is fucking insane to put in amovie and then put it on network TV.

Jon (32:56):
I'll keep it a buck, Chris.
I really thought we were gonnawatch that dog's balls get licked.
I really thought that'swhat was happening next.
Yeah, I was shocked

Jim (33:04):
that they moved that part off camera, because up to this
point, it was pretty fucking crude.

Jon (33:09):
They showed, they showed it all, dude.
I mean, he tongue kissed that dog,and then it was, and then it was
time to give it a hummer, and Ithought, we're really gonna see this.
This is coming, this is, this is gonnahit the fucking screen right now.
What's like,

Chris (33:23):
what's even crazier about it is that they take away their
out of like, this is a funny thingby like five seconds later blanks.
Like that's bestiality.
I'm not doing that.
And then they're just like, no, we'regoing to still have this in a movie.
But that's like, that was thestate of comedy back then.
It was like weird, gross out.

Jim (33:45):
Yeah.
You got a guy fucking up high, thisguy's sucking up on a dog sack, fucking,
nothing else springs to mind, but

Jon (33:54):
Time area differences, like, for comedy, it's always funny to
go back and watch and look, right?
Like, half the movie, Ithink, was like, gay jokes.
Like, you're
so gay,
like, oh, that's gay, oh, gay.
It was like, oh shit,yeah, times were, times

Jim (34:10):
were a little different.
Yeah.
And I mean, it was only 20 yearsago and it's like, this is on USA
and they were throwing out like,you know, the R word and like, yeah,
just like, like cool as a cucumber,like as you please kind of stuff.
I was like, damn, that's crazy.
How much times.
Have changed that.
It's like a USA originalis just throwing this out.

(34:34):
Like, like they're saying like, gosh,darn and golly, you know, that was,
that was kind of a weird trip too.
For sure.

Chris (34:41):
Yeah.
This, this definitely reacheslike a level that like, not even
like Marvel movies won't even goas low as this network TV show.
Like they're too afraid to

Jim (34:53):
touch it.
Yeah, who definitely scratchesthe edge of that dude.
One thing I did.
I really don't like this rut motherfucker,um, but some of like, and it is kind of
cheese ball, like, like the Californiakind of lingo that he's leaning into
that they're trying to frame up.

(35:13):
But some of the shit he was sayingwas like so wild, like terms, like
when he called the, uh, like whenthe alien first comes out and he's
like, Oh, he's going after blanks.
Gotch keys.
Yeah.
What the fuck is that?
Weird little terms throughoutwere kind of funny.
I was like, where did they get that?
Did they just let him fucking justrun free or were they workshopping?

(35:34):
Like, Oh, this is what.
The California lingo is, you know,cause it's definitely like alien.
Like I've never heard any of thisshit, but it's still, I kind of, I
guess fit like what they were goingfor with these fucking knuckleheads.

Chris (35:48):
Yeah.
I didn't get too much of a,like they're trying to do
California accent or lingo vibe.
I just thought.
Whoever wrote this or like whoeveris saying this is just Thinks
like, you know, tidy whities.
That's too basic to make it funnier Wegot to take it up a level and got cheese
is what we land on or later when he'slike What was that geek stank like?

Jon (36:11):
Oh, yeah Yeah, dude, a lot is a lot of his references to
him fucking smashing that thingdown was fucking hilarious Yeah,

Chris (36:22):
it was a, it was a weird time, but back to the, the dog
ball licking as that's going on.
Let's get back to brass tacks here.
The spaceship, a spaceship lands inthe woods and, uh, we are treated
to our first commercial break.
We get ads for an airing of the1998 film disturbing behavior.
The 2001 Chia Sophia, Cool Whip, PearlVision, Lens Crafters, Country Time

(36:49):
Lemonade Ice Tea, DiGiorno Frozen Pizzas,and the network television premiere of
another 1998 movie, Mafia, which I watcheda lot, probably because it was on USA.

Jim (37:01):
Dude, first off, I gotta say, dude, the Pearl Vision took me back,
like, it hit me, like, I was like,Dude, I remember that jingle, that
was such a catchy fuckin Nobody caresfor eyes more than Pearl I was like,

Jon (37:14):
dude, where did that go?
I think the DiGiorno one hit methe hardest because that's like,
I just remember that everywhere.
It's not delivery.
It's DiGiorno.

Chris (37:24):
Yeah,

Jon (37:25):
dude.
I

Jim (37:25):
remember that one specifically.
Lost another bet, Johnson?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I

Chris (37:31):
think, uh, the one I remember most from this batch
was definitely the Cool Whip one.
I, I remember that.
That jingle is a good one.
The,

Jim (37:39):
the lemonade one, I was like, dude, that's so weird.
Like, like, I can't imagine someoneponying up money for country time
lemonade, like to get that spot.
And it was like, at that was one of the

Chris (37:52):
most ubiquitous of really throughout this, well,
just this two hour block.
Like they kept showing that

Jim (37:59):
I meant during the, like the time period.
I was like, I don't remember.
Ever seen an advertisement for countrytime lemonade and it was kind of cool
because it was fucking iced tea Ithink that was before like everyone
like knew what an Arnold Palmerwas and shit Yeah, these guys are
the the OG's my grandma bought that

Jon (38:17):
shit by the bucket The fucking bucket.
So when I saw it, I was like, oh thatguy that that was another one They
kind of tripped me out, but Nice.
Cause yeah, I, I remember like, assoon as they like rotate the can
into the camera, I was like, Oh shit.
Yep.
I I've had that.
Yes.

Chris (38:35):
Yeah.
Also the disturbingbehavior spot hits me hard.
I remember it so much.
Just anytime that song comes onflagpole SIDA by Harvey Janger, I
think of disturbing behavior, which Iactually watched for the first time.
Mike.
Within the last year.
It's super fucking weird.
It is weird as shit.

(38:56):
I love that fucking movie.
I saw that in theaters.
To me, it felt like an X Filesepisode that just got too big.
It's

Jon (39:04):
Yeah, that's what I thought it was initially, was like
a show that was on, uh, USA.
So every time it kept poppingup, I was like, oh, they're
really pushing this show.
But so it was a movie, huh?
Yeah.

Chris (39:15):
And the only thing I had seen about it before watching
it was this 22nd commercial.
I thought it was just like a teen slasherto capitalize on like scream and all that,
but it is quite a bit weirder than that.

Jim (39:28):
Yeah.
I mean, it kind of was, but it wasprobably more going for like the, the
faculty kind of vibe with the mindcontrol, but I think it came out a little
bit before, maybe same time, but didyou like disturbing behavior, Chris?
I mean, it

Chris (39:43):
was

Jim (39:43):
all

Chris (39:43):
right.
Yeah.

Jim (39:44):
You know, I fucking love that.
I have, I think I have the nostalgiabuilt in cause I saw it in theater,
but dude, some of the shit that made melaugh was in the promo spot on the USA
was sometimes fitting in can be deadly.
And I was like, what, thatdoesn't, how are you getting that
as like the hook to this thing?
Like, I don't know, some of thelike little, the, the, yeah.

(40:04):
The choices that they made to likeadvertise it would just seem super
outlandish, but yeah, I love that movie.
That's when I've been wantingto cover on wax for a long time.

Chris (40:14):
I don't think Steve would like it.
I don't think you would

Jim (40:16):
either, but I think there's a couple little things in there, mainly.
You'd probably like the

Chris (40:21):
end, the thing that happens with the waterfall.
Yeah.

Jim (40:25):
Kids dying.
I thought he would like the,uh, Right up Steve's alley.
Yeah, totally.
I thought he would like the, uh, theWilliam Sadler, Boo Radley character.
Dude, my wife loves that film too, andevery once in a while, I'll turn and
I'll be like, You like Kirk Vonnegut?
And she fucking just, it's like,it's like my ace that I have, like,

(40:49):
any time I need to get out of a jam.
It's like, That's the olive branch.
Heh heh

Chris (40:54):
heh.
So, out of this spaceship comesa small, big eyed, green alien.
The three dudes observe the alien asit pilfers their campsite for food.
Rutt throws a firework atthe alien to scare it off.
And the alien retreats into its spaceshipand comes back out wielding a ray gun.
Tim tries to make peace with thealien, but Rutt shoots him right

(41:17):
between the eyes with an arrow.
And the spaceship takes off,leaving the alien's dead body.

Jim (41:23):
Yeah, that was pretty, uh, pretty hardcore to just fucking
go right for the head of this

Jon (41:28):
fucker.
Well, it was funny, right?
Because didn't he say he wasgonna wing it or something?
Wasn't there a line where he waslike, oh, I'm just gonna wing it.
And then he like, fuckingdead sets it in the forehead.
He

Chris (41:38):
says, uh, he's gonna try to shoot the gun out of its hand.
And then he lets the arrow goand blanks like, you winged it.
And then it cuts to like, no.
It's like

Jim (41:47):
dead right in the Right in the cortex, I like, and then before that too,
we can't forget like, aren't they likefucking around and he's shooting the bow
and he's like trying to shoot like a baldeagle or something and he fucking sails it
and it goes, they pay it back or they'llpay it back later and it sails all the way
into his fuck, like into the block of hisfucking truck, like, which was supposed

(42:08):
to be like eight miles away or some shit.
I thought that was pretty funny.

Chris (42:12):
They stuff the alien into a backpack in the hopes that they will
be able to sell the carcass to a TVshow called Unexplained Encounters
that just happens to be shooting anepisode in Eureka later that night.
We get our next commercial break, whichincludes ads for Honda Dirt Bikes,
Ballpark Franks, Surpass Antacid ChewingGum, a Gay Miller like commercial,

(42:34):
which was surprising, and a That was

Jim (42:37):
surprising to me.

Chris (42:38):
Yeah.
I was like, oh shit.
People are fucking complaining aboutwhatever it was, like Budweiser
or something with rainbow flags.
Like, a year ago,

Jim (42:48):
Kid Rock was getting all

Chris (42:50):
pissed

Jim (42:50):
off.
Unloading a fucking M 16into a fucking 30 rack.
Jesus.
I never saw that.
Yeah, he fucking like set up like twothirty racks and he said something
stupid and he was all, dude dude dude.
He just, um, it's like you're such a cool,

Chris (43:09):
good job.
Kid.
Rock ball with the ball.
And uh, there's also a preview foranother USA network original movie.
What was that?
Um, Class Warfare, class warfare.
That's right.
That shit looked dope, dude.
That one actually is streaming.

Jim (43:26):
There was, what was the other original?
It was a sci fi original.
Maybe you're taught.
Oh, yeah.

Chris (43:32):
We'll get to it.

Jim (43:33):
Are you trying to go, I don't want to step on your toes.
Cause I have an entire list of commercialflashbacks that I want to touch on.
Do you, are you wanting to go,are you wanting to go through
them as we go through them?
Yeah,

Chris (43:44):
I have all of them as they come up.
So just whenever we get there,like jump in and be like, Oh shit.
Post selects, cranberry,almond crunch, dude.
Yeah.
I'm about to blow my wand when we get

Jim (43:53):
to fucking blueberry morning.
Oh shit.
So,

Chris (43:57):
yeah, after the commercials, uh, the three guys have hiked
back into town and stop in abowling alley to formulate a plan.
They eat some popcorn with extra butter,which Tim says goes through him like
buckshot, which is the quote that I quoteto this day, because that is true of me.
I love movie theater popcorn,but there's a problem afterwards.

Jim (44:20):
Yeah, you gotta wonder what's in that fuckin oil, butter, fuckin
that, whatever that ratio is.
It can't be good.

Chris (44:27):
Fuckin delicious, though.
It is.
And suddenly, the bag with thealien in it begins to move.
Apparently, the alien was not actuallydead, which is a problem that the
dudes quickly remedy by beating itto death with some bowling pins.

Jon (44:42):
Yeah, this scene is, this scene is great, because, uh, comes back
to life, oh shit, we gotta panic.
Everybody sees everything that happensand we get the most God like area 51
reference that is just a mate with the,with the cabinet shot right there too.
Oh my God.

(45:03):
Did that was beautiful.
Yeah.
That

Jim (45:04):
definitely conjured up many a quarter drained.
So that game was so fuckingrad because that was one that

Chris (45:12):
was like a dollar at most places, right?
It was

Jim (45:15):
pricey.
Yeah, that was a pricey one.
You had to be fucking locked in.
Like gettin all the fuckinlike hittin all the pictures.
And the fuckin the red lightsand the blue lights and shit.
To get the fuckin good shit.
And to get like the secret level.
And y'all pissin in the fuckin urinal.
Dude, that game

Jon (45:33):
was fuckin awesome.
So good.
That was, that was a nice blast for sure.
That's, uh, that's my notes exactlyright here, uh, for you Chris.
Area 51 plug.
Lit.

Jim (45:53):
Yeah, I couldn't believe like how over the top the beating the shit out
of the fucking poor alien in the bag.
I was like, come on.
It was funny.
Investigate a little bit more.
This thing's coming back tolife and they're just fucking

Jon (46:08):
like savages like, well, it's the great, um, Difference that we needed
there for the movie to work, Jim.
You see, what it is, is wehave a guy who really cares and
wants to figure out the alien.
So we need that hard juxtapositionof these two morons that just want
to beat the dog shit out of it.
The holy dog shit.

Jim (46:28):
Yeah, that is fair.
I mean, Gosler, even at the beginning,he's like throwing up his hands and
he's like, he's actually has reason.
Like, he's like, wait, thisis like an alien species.
Like, no one's ever seen it.
It's like, let's not shoot it.
Like.
And he was right all along, like hedidn't, unbeknownst to him, like, how
was he supposed to know that gun wasn'ta fucking death ray, but, yeah, I did

(46:49):
like how they, they started early,like, he was like, no, you guys are
fucking idiots, what are we doing?
I mean, he still wants to sell it, though.
Yeah, he's got, he'sgot an angle for sure.
But at least he was like Let's, let's not

Chris (47:04):
kill it immediately, but after they do kill it for the second time,
Tim goes to the video store to apologizeto echo for bailing on their date, but
also to rent a video camera so that thedudes can film a video and of the alien
and give it to unexplained encounters.
The apology is going well, butunfortunately the buttered popcorn

(47:26):
causes Tim to have explosive diarrhea.
He clogs the store's toilet andescapes through a window, but
not before stealing a camera.
And so this is another, like, Idon't even know if there's a specific
movie that it's referencing, butthere's a similar like reference and
not another teen movie, which just.
Tells me that at the time teencomedies people must have just been

(47:48):
shitting everywhere dumb and dumb and

Jon (47:50):
dumber.
Yeah.

Jim (47:51):
Yeah Yeah, I was like, this is this is ripping on Jeff Daniels in
the fucking blowing the toilet up.
Yeah.
Yeah I didn't like that.
I was like, yeah.

Chris (48:01):
Yeah, that stuff doesn't really get me

Jim (48:04):
that.
Well, it was fine I just felt like theycould have used a different vehicle that
it just seemed like they were biting superhard on on dumb and dumber It's like they
did it first and way better For sure.

Jon (48:16):
I got two things about this scene.
Um, I talked about this onthe podcast with Jim before.
One thing that drives me crazy aboutmovies is when they really just
lead you to exactly what it's like.
Just let, like, I don't need youto fucking bury my face in what
we, what we're doing, right?
Mm hmm.

(48:36):
We literally just seen him say it runs through him like
buckshot
we really need the fucking cut back of him scarfing down the buckshot

Jim (48:46):
buckshot

Jon (48:50):
echo buckshot runs through me like buckshot buckshot and then it's like oh
that's right i forgot that he had justsaid that and he's gonna go shit his pants
yeah that that drove me a little bit crazybut i believe it's this scene where we.
We get the cut back in the, is thiswhere the guys are talking about what
they're going to do with their money?

(49:10):
Is that where they're, they're cuttingback and forth to him where they
got the alien, they're, they're tiedup and they're talking about what
they're going to spend their money on.

Chris (49:17):
Sure.
I don't, I don't thinkI took that part down.
So fill us in.
Oh

Jon (49:21):
my God, dude.
It says, what are you goingto do with your money?
I'm going to buy a PS2and fuck Britney Spears.
Jesus.
Was, was, was he was goingto do it with Britney?
I don't think I picked up on that.
Dude, I was I remember the PS2 part.
Oh my god, I thoughtthat was just beautiful.
It was like, what are you doing?
I'm going to get the new PS2.

(49:43):
And he's like, yeah, and then I'm goingto get a date with Britney Spears.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh
my god, that's fantastic.

Jim (49:51):
Yeah, that gave me flashbacks to the, like this time I remember I had a
job at Blockbuster and my first paycheck,I went out and got a PS two and dude,
I went fucking rounds on GTA three.
Yep.
Like that summer of ohone blood into oh two.
Like dude, I fucking, I loved that game.

(50:13):
That was a pretty big jump fromlike the previous consoles.
Oh yeah.
Like the PS one and,and N 64 up to a PS two.
Massive.
That was fucking, that was awesome.

Chris (50:23):
Yeah.
I mean especially thatfranchise specifically.
'cause I don't know if youplayed the first two Oh.
Was a big of, but those are down.
Yeah.
Yep.
The payphones get themission from the payphones.
Yeah.
Shit was good.
Yeah.
That was fucking.
Good times.
And, uh, I mean, perfectly, we, we get another commercial break

(50:43):
at this point with ads for 10, 10 to20 featuring Terry Bradshaw and Toby.
It

Jim (50:50):
is on my side.
I remember that so specifically now, like.
Fuck, kids these days don't

Chris (50:56):
know how hard it was to make a phone call.
No, no,

Jon (51:00):
for real.
Like that was so funny.
And it's like, it'sonly 20 cents a minute.
It's like, Oh shit,

Chris (51:07):
that's crazy.
So I am like at the age wherenone of this ever really affected
me, but I was inundated bycommercials for it constantly.
Like, I don't think I just never wouldhave been left in a situation where like,
My parents dropped me off somewhere andI have to call them with a pay phone.
It was like, they're either going to bethere or they are not worried where I am.

Jim (51:30):
Yeah.
I only had to use, I used it one time andI can't even remember the circumstance,
but I did have to use, it was, and aftera while it became, it started branching
out, like how things become popular.
There was like 10, There waslike, I feel like, what's the dial

Jon (51:48):
down the center one?
1 800.
1 800 collect that was like,that was a big dog dialed in

Jim (51:54):
10, but then there was like 10, 10, 19 something.
Then there, there was a bunch ofdifferent 10 tens and they had
commercials too, during this time.
But yeah, I remember thinking like,and like for international calling,
I was like thinking about it now.
I don't know anyone ina different country.
Like I don't, I never, I literallynever call anyone where I need to worry

(52:16):
about like roaming or international.
It seemed like.
This is a common occurrence.
Like you're calling Greece andshit like every other weekend.
Like it just seems so weird.
Like, yeah, like I didn't knowanyone, like I didn't come from
a lot of money, but I don't know.
It just seemed weird.
Like that there was noteven internationally.
I

Chris (52:35):
mean, back then it's like, if you were calling like Wisconsin.
From California.
State to state.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's like a long distance call.
Yeah.

Jim (52:44):
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I had a ton of family all centeredin California, so that, yeah, that
just kind of flew right over my head.
Like,

Chris (52:52):
Oh yeah.
I remember like being a kid and likemy grandma calls for Christmas and
they're like, it's your grandma.
Hurry up.
It's long distance.
Fuck.

Jim (53:02):
That's so crazy.
Now we have like nationwidenetworks and shit with cell phone.
It's like not even, it'slike complete afterthought.

Chris (53:09):
Oh yeah.

Jim (53:10):
That was only 20 years ago.
And it almost, it may as well bethe fucking stone ages compared
to what we have now, likeat your fingertips for sure.

Chris (53:17):
Losers.
But aside from that, we alsohad one for the, uh, Taco bell
slash tomb Raider instant win

Jim (53:27):
game.
Dude.
I remember that matching upthe different angles and shit.
That was awesome.

Chris (53:33):
We had post selects cranberry almond crunch

Jim (53:36):
banger

Chris (53:37):
and motherfucking miss Cleo.
Dude.

Jim (53:41):
Yes.
Yeah.
This is one of two spots.
Of Miss Cleo during theduration of this film.

Chris (53:49):
Yeah, she was all over the TV back then and I was very sad when I found out
a few years ago that that's a fake accent.
Uh, you watched the Miss Cleo doc?
I didn't, I just rememberlooking it up and I was like, oh,
that's extremely disappointing.
Yeah.
I've been lied to thousands oftimes throughout my childhood.
Dude,

Jim (54:09):
even seeing this one though, I was like, it's, it's weird to
think I was like, this is likenew school, miss Cleo though.
Cause I remember the older ones fromlike 96 when she first came on, this
is like her waning years here in like2001 because she had a website, my Cleo.
com.
I was like, That's nice.
It

Chris (54:28):
was like some white dude over in the corner.

Jim (54:30):
Yeah.

Jon (54:32):
Yeah.

Jim (54:32):
Right in the fucking angel fire sight.
Yeah.
Dude, the thing she said though, isyour husband the one with the nice legs?
Call me now for your free reading.
What the fuck?

Chris (54:45):
Yeah, it was pretty good.
So, Tim meets Rutt and Blank back inBlank's garage, but he's followed by Echo.
Echo peeks through the window and seesTim and Blank on the bed shirtless
as Rutt holds a video camera.
She misinterprets this to mean that thethree men were filming a gay porn video.
Uh, Echo bursts into the garageto chastise Tim and Rutt for

(55:09):
sexually taking advantage of Blank.
But as she is doing, so the backpackwith the alien begins to move again.
And this is like, I glossed overit, but it's seriously like a
two minute, like who's on first,but with gay porn and plant

Jim (55:25):
that seed earlier on where he's like, why don't you get into something
like gay porn or something like that?
And he's like, ah, I heard the hoursare horrible or something like,

Jon (55:34):
and then he brings it up again when he, when he goes to apologize
at the, uh, Video store too.
Yeah, that's right.
Echo.
He

Chris (55:41):
brings it up.
Yeah.
And I will say when Mark Paulgets his shirt off, I did not
expect him to be that shredded.
Like I know he was an idol at thetime, but he looks like fucking
Brad Pitt and snatch or something.
He's

Jim (55:56):
pretty diced for sure.
It was impressive.
So,

Chris (56:00):
yeah.
Alien comes back to life again.
Tim realizes that heat is what makesthe alien come back to life because when
they're at the bowling alley, Blank wasleaning against the popcorn machine and
then they had blow dryers or a lightfacing it at this point for some reason.
Um, and Echo names the, the alien Greenie.
So they use blow dryers to fullyresuscitate it and the alien

(56:25):
wakes up and bites Rutt's face.
Yes.
Okay.
Decent physical comedy.
Like, fuck yeah.
Yep.

Jim (56:31):
Fucking rut.
Payback, bitch.

Chris (56:34):
Echo disagrees with the boy's plan to sell the alien to
unexplained encounters and leaves.
We get another ad break withcommercials for Roller Coaster Tycoon
and Bush's Country Style Baked Beans.
Dude, those Bush

Jim (56:48):
Beans ones were fucking ubiquitous, man.
Oh yeah.
With the fucking Duke.
Fuckers always trying to sell the
family secret.

Chris (56:57):
I feel like it's one of those things, like when we were kids,
probably like parents would say like,where's the beef referencing some
commercial that's never been on.
Now it's us.
Beautiful bean footage.
There it is.
Yeah.
No one knows what the fuck that is,

Jim (57:12):
but
I love that.
How much Ed, he was just like,Duke was just this scamp.
Like he's always just plotting tofucking sell the family recipe to do it.
That was awesome.
Yeah.
That's of a bygone erapearls before swine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wait, what was the oneright before that though?

Chris (57:33):
Uh, rollercoaster tycoon

Jim (57:35):
dude.
That one's burned in my brain too.
The dude when he's like,where are your bathrooms?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude.
That one was like, Whoa.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I thought that had been completelyscrubbed from my brain and then
that it just brought it all back.
And when they all populate inhis room, he's like, I took,
I took down ticket prices.

(57:57):
I added more of these, butthen he's all tourists.
It's like, dude, that's themost 2000 fucking commercial.
If you could just like.
Concentrate it into likea minute commercial.

Jon (58:09):
That was it.
It made me think of the fruit.
Remember the old fruit gushers commercial?
I don't know why, but that commercialmakes me think of the, where
their heads pop, where they'reall like out and skateboard.
The rollercoaster tycoon one, just,I, I maybe it used to always be right
next to it or something, but that onealmost immediately when it was done, I
was just like, oh yeah, fruit gushers.

(58:30):
Dude, Gushers were so good.
Fuck.
Bring them

Chris (58:33):
back.
I'm pretty sure they still make those.
Really?
Yeah, I don't think they ever went away.
I'm not a big

Jim (58:40):
candy guy.
Despite what I look like.
You have children though.
They gotta be begging you for shit.
Dude, I don't feed thosefuckers sugar or soda.
They'd be bouncing off the fucking wall.

Chris (58:53):
Back then, you didn't have a choice.
Everything was sugar and soda.

Jim (58:57):
Dude, my kid has a fucking yogurt before bed.
He's fucking hell on wheels.
There's 16 grams of sugarin those motherfuckers.
Jacked up on probiotics.
Acetophis bifilaris, whatever the fuck.
No, but did you guys everplay Rollercoaster Tycoon?
Oh yeah.
I didn't.

Jon (59:17):
Fun game.
Yeah, it's like Sims, but, uh.
Yeah.
Rollercoaster, yeah.
But yeah, and that's why the thebathroom line is so funny, right?
Cuz remember if you didn't putbathrooms in your theme park
like people would just be like

Jim (59:30):
Yep.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was cool.
It was a fun game.

Chris (59:33):
No, I never played that one I did like play several that were very
similar like there was theme hospital,which is the same thing both a hospital
There's also one called Dino Park tycoonwhere basically you own a Jurassic
Park That sounds really good, actually.

Jon (59:51):
That sounds fucking

Chris (59:51):
awesome.
That'd be rad.
Yeah, that sounds super cool.
Yeah, I'm sure those, like, Windows98 graphics are probably not
doing much for people these days,but it was the shit back then.
Dude, just, even the, the

Jim (01:00:05):
Uh, the act of like hitting the button on your computer tower and putting
a fucking CD game in and loading it up.
Like it brought back that kindof nostalgia to, I was like
that, dude, that's so crazy.
Like how far removed we are fromthat and everything's like digital
and you can fucking play it.
Like you can cloud stream games andshit now, like, I remember having

(01:00:29):
to install shit and like uncompute.
Dude.

Chris (01:00:32):
Yeah.
I remember thinking GameCube.
Was so futuristic justbecause it had smaller discs.
Yeah, yeah.
The baby discs.
The same thing, but slightly smaller.
We're light years ahead now.
Dude,

Jim (01:00:45):
what was that game on GameCube that was fucking rad with like the skeleton?
John, you probably know this.
It was like, uh Eternal something.
Eternal darkness?
Yeah.
Dude, that game was Yeah, but you had your

Jon (01:00:55):
insanity meter.
Yes.
And then, like, when you wentinsane, you'd get, like, the blue
screen of death that computers got.
Like, weird shit would happen,like, the more crazy shit you saw,
your insanity meter would go up.
And then just, like,weird shit would happen.
Yeah, that game's fucking amazing, yeah.

Chris (01:01:10):
Hell yeah.
Never played that.
I was just two ballsdeep in Smash and Pikmin.
Yeah, Pikmin's a

Jon (01:01:15):
fuckin

Chris (01:01:17):
banger.
I see you, Chris.
Alright, dawg.
So

Jon (01:01:20):
nasty!
Alright, dude!
Controversial,

Chris (01:01:22):
but probably my favorite Nintendo franchise.
Fuckin like Pikmin.
I haven't played the mostrecent one, but Yeah.
I would love to.
Okay, uh, Blank and Rutt realizethat the alien will eat just about
anything and leave to go get some morefood to feed it, but when the three
dudes and Echo return to the garagethey find that Greeny is missing.

(01:01:46):
Turns out the paperboy stole him,and he's puking all over the place.
Word spreads throughout the townthat there's an alien on the
loose, and Rutt and Blank go to thepaperboy's house in search of Greeny.
When they arrive, they findthat the Paperboys have already
left on their bikes with Greeny.
Their intention is to bring the aliento Mitch McKay, the host of Unexplained

(01:02:08):
Encounters, and collect a rewardbefore Tim and the gang have a chance.

Jon (01:02:13):
Was that supposed to be like unsolved mystery?
What, what show was that?
Um, cause it was like, therewas a show like that back then.
Right.
That was, that was,

Jim (01:02:22):
yeah, I think that's what they were biting on.
Yeah.
There's a few different shows backthen that were kind of like that.
Remember the one with thedude from, uh, Star Trek?
Jonathan Freese, he did Fiction.

Jon (01:02:34):
Yeah.
Oh, some of the best fuckingmemes in the world with that guy.
Totally false.
We picked this one up.
This one was cooked up by our writers.
Yeah, that's, yeah.

Jim (01:02:44):
What do you want to be when you grow up?
Yeah.
Dude, there was another banger duringthat time, too, called Sightings.
Mm hmm.
Worth, worth, uh, uh, Google worth ofYouTube right in that unsolved mysteries
vein, like only more ghosty, likeparanormal shit, but super cool shit.

Chris (01:03:03):
Yeah, I was, uh, I was big unsolved mysteries kid.
I think that's probably the main touchpoint for unexplained encounters,
but he didn't like Robert stack.
It wasn't like a live show.
Like he wasn't traveling aroundthe country trying to find things.
I think it's, it's like unsolvedmysteries mixed with just like
The obsession we had with liketabloids and shit back then, I like

Jim (01:03:25):
her, all the Rivera when he fucking

Chris (01:03:27):
fucked the Sasquatch or

Jim (01:03:28):
yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, this, that part kind of remindedme of, there's a really good tales from
the crypt episode where Morton Downey Jr.
Plays like a fucking sleazeball, kind of like, uh, like
a current affair, like extra.
Kind of like, like a TV magazinekind of thing where they try to

(01:03:51):
like, uh, exploit shit like theunexplained and shit like that.
It reminded me, it reminded meof that guy's kind of like, he's
egotistical, that fucking, he'slike, go tell him to hump Redwood or
what the fuck they do out of here.
He just seemed like a real dick

Chris (01:04:06):
face.
What was so weird about this character,this Mitch McKay character to me.
Was how little he was on the screen, butlike how important he was to the story and
how, like how, how choosy they were with,like, when to show him, it almost seemed
like that would be a part like, Oh, here'slike the one legitimate actor in this

(01:04:27):
movie, but it's also just some nobody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, Oh shit.
We got Patrick Stewart.
He's going to play Mitch McKay,but no, just, just some dude.

Jon (01:04:38):
It's funny you mention that because it does almost seem like that when that
when we do get the big reveal rightand like the Town splits and you see
him even that shot like it makes methink like because I was like I have
no idea who this guy is but in my mind,I just like figured like okay during
this time era This guy was clearlysomebody but but yeah, like you said

(01:04:58):
is just it's another fucking No, then

Chris (01:05:02):
I mean, if anything, he's like less popular than everyone else.
Like Mark Paul Gosselaar isprobably by far the biggest
star in the movie, which is.
I mean, he's not a huge star,really, other than Saved by the Bell.
Hey man, Deadman

Jim (01:05:18):
on campus?
He's pretty great in that.
Never seen it.
Yeah.
You're not missing anything, butit's not as bad as everything else
about it available would imply.
He's actually pretty funny in it.

Chris (01:05:34):
So the paper boy's stealing greenie, uh, affords us the
opportunity to have a, uh, E.
T.
Homage.
Yeah.
He like gets flung off a bike andsails past a billboard of a sun.

Jon (01:05:49):
Which I thought was pretty good.
You know, we're, we're being, here we go.
Like, okay, it's upside down.
He falls out of the basketand it's not the moon.
So it's like, yes, it's, it's aboutas opposite of a copy as you can have.

Chris (01:06:03):
Yeah.
I mean, they had to get goodpoint something in this because.
I mean, basically the concept ofthis movie is like, what if E.
T.
came, but instead of Elliot, it wasjust like, three fucking douchebags.
Yeah, for sure.
That is exactly what it is.
Idiots.

(01:06:23):
So, Greeny escapes the Paper Boys.
Tim finds Greeny.
And has a heart to heart withthe alien about home is where
the heart is, or some bullshit.
The home is where you make it.
Yeah, the movie just kind of completelycomes to a halt for two minutes while
Mark Paul Gosselaar acts against thisalien that's not saying anything.

(01:06:43):
Yep.
Great, great times.
Really shined.
Cinematic gold.
And so after that we getanother commercial break.
Yes.
Ads for Bottled Crystal Light, WatermelonJolly Ranchers, America Online, Chili's,
and some sci fi original series calledThe Chronicle that I've never heard of.

(01:07:06):
That's the one that I was like,

Jim (01:07:07):
man, that looks just like pure dog shit.

Chris (01:07:12):
Yeah.
And to, to what we were talking about justa few minutes ago, like it's about like
tabloid reporters or something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was, it was hot shit back then.

Jon (01:07:25):
Yeah, I, it's funny because I remember the grocery store, right?
Like, it's like, as soon as you mentionedthat, like, Elvis, fuck Sasquatch.
Like, I immediately was in thecheckout aisle of fuckin Safeway.
And I was just like, oh yeah, I, yep, yep.

Chris (01:07:39):
The hot cheats.
It was all that, or like, lookat how fat this celebrity is.

Jon (01:07:45):
Yeah, that's, that's right, yeah.
You'll never guess whoweighs 350 pounds now.
You'll never guess whoweighs 350 pounds now.

Chris (01:07:50):
Do they?
Cause I, I really haven't, I guessI just don't look at magazines
like I did when I was a kid.
Yeah.
I was at eye level with them back then.

Jim (01:07:59):
Yeah, weird.
Yeah.
Every once in a while when I'm at thefucking in line at the Meyer, they have
a fuck, they still are going gangbusterson like the good housekeeping and the
fucking right at the checkout aisle.
It's right there.
Yeah, that's funny.

Chris (01:08:15):
Uh, yeah, and I was kinda confused why they had a, a commercial specifically
for watermelon Jolly Ranchers.
I looked it up, like, that wasn't anew flavor, like, so I don't know.

Jim (01:08:27):
Well, they were probably being smart, because that's the best
fucking flavor of Jolly Rancher,so they were just Obviously.
Raspberry.
They were just pushing it.
Chris.
Okay.
You said blue?
Blue Razz?

Chris (01:08:37):
Yeah.

Jim (01:08:38):
Yeah, I won't fight

Chris (01:08:39):
you on that.
My, like, blue raspberry is likemy favorite, like, fake flavor that
doesn't actually exist in nature.

Jim (01:08:47):
Yeah.
Blue Razz, cotton candy, like,cotton candy dumb, cotton candy
dumb dumbs, fucking around.
I can't, no.
Not cotton candy.

Chris (01:08:58):
All right.
Yeah, won't allow it, dude.
I'll take

Jim (01:09:01):
that out, I'll edit that out.
I'm, I'm pretty faded, I could, I couldadmit to something right now that's
probably pretty gross, but, uh, fuck it.
You remember Bubblicious?
Oh yeah, they'd have wild ass flavors.
Dude, this is how nastyI am when I was a kid.
I used to take Cotton CandyBubblicious and I'd fucking chew it up.

(01:09:23):
And I'd spit it, the juice, intothe fucking ice cube tray, and
freeze that shit, and then take itout and use it in fucking drinks.
That's impressive.
Fuck around.
Yeah.
That is, that's somechild ingenuity for sure.
Dude, I told my wife that one time,and she was so disappointed in me.

(01:09:44):
I was like, It is gross, but you're a kid.
You're the wrong, you'rethe wrong audience for this.

Chris (01:09:49):
Yeah, I hadn't thought about this in a long time, but I looked
it up and I definitely remember likethe, the watermelon Bubblicious was
good, but it was, isn't it kind oflike Fruit Stripe where like the
flavor lasts for eight seconds?
If that.
Yeah.

Jim (01:10:03):
Dude.
The worst ones werethose fucking, the zebra.
Zebra

Jon (01:10:06):
was the worst.

Jim (01:10:07):
Yeah.
That was, like, instantaneous.
You get, like, two chews and it's gone.

Jon (01:10:12):
And you could fucking snap any part of it off.

Jim (01:10:14):
It was, like, brittle.
It was like the bubble gum thatyou get in fucking baseball cards.
Yeah.
There's the powder.
Yep.

Chris (01:10:23):
Fucking bubble icious.
Okay, Greeny's spaceship has landed inthe woods, where it first appeared to Tim,
Rutt, and Blank, and there's like fiveother aliens waiting to take Greeny home.
Unfortunately, by this point, the wholetown has seen the spaceship as well,
and there is an angry mob on the way.
We also find out that the ray gunthat Greeny pointed at Tim during

(01:10:46):
their first encounter was not aray gun at all, but a universal
translator that would have allowed theguys to communicate with the alien.

Jon (01:10:54):
It was the future of 10 10

Chris (01:10:56):
20, dude.
This revelation causes Blank and Ruttto have a change of heart, and our
crew parts ways with Greeny momentsbefore the angry townspeople arrive.
Mitch McKay arrives and asksTim about the alien, to which he
replies that he didn't see anything.
And everything is sewn up nicely.
The end.

Jon (01:11:17):
Yeah.
Well, I really like the, the end, uh,moral that we get where, you know, Mitch
lets him know, Hey, this can get your faceon TV across America, which is the only
break the LA weatherman was looking for.
Just the thing he needed.

Chris (01:11:36):
It's a straight shot to Hollywood and primetime television after that.

Jon (01:11:40):
Yep.
And he says, I didn't see shit.

Jim (01:11:45):
Yeah.
He's got a, he's got amoral compass on him.

Chris (01:11:48):
Yeah.
As I was going through this thesecond time for note taking kind of
dawn on me that the ending is sortof just like, Hey, yeah, you work
at a taco slash hot dog restaurant.
You should be fine with that andnever aspire to anything else.

Jim (01:12:05):
I mean, that's, that's pretty brutal

Chris (01:12:06):
way of looking at it, but.
Well, I mean, he doesn't fuckinglike his hometown, but the moral is
like you just oh, well you were bornthere So you have to stay there.
Well, yeah,

Jon (01:12:17):
no matter what if you got a pretty girl, dude, you know

Jim (01:12:20):
He's

Jon (01:12:20):
got a pretty girl in a taco job.
You're good to go.

Jim (01:12:23):
Good thing going with echo there her old his her old man
fucking owns the fucking Video store.

Chris (01:12:30):
Which is about three years from going bust and
becoming completely obsolete.
We didn't know that at that time.
Such a bummer.

Jim (01:12:38):
Dude, I worked at Blockbuster from 99 to 2002 and I thought
that shit would last forever.
Trust me.

Jon (01:12:45):
Was that the best job

Jim (01:12:46):
you ever had and you miss it?
It was so dope.
It was so sick.
I believe it.
Like before all this streamingshit, dude, check this out.
When I worked there, I gotfive free rentals a week.
Oh shit.
And I got first dibs onnew shit that came in.
Two weeks before we'dput it out on the floor.
Oh, it's like people now are like,all right, grandpa, dude, back then

(01:13:10):
when streaming was like, it mayhave well been a light years away.
Yeah.
No concept of that coming.
That was pimp shit.
Like for sure, dude, when I'd get off myshift and I'd be like, all right, cool.
Five.
I.
That's that, that was like the prime ofmy, like getting into movies and shit.
I mean, like movie buffed, um, wasgetting five free rentals plus a fucking

(01:13:34):
something that just came out that noone was going to get for like two weeks.
Like that shit was awesome, but I shouldhave seen the writing on the wall, dude.
Because when like DVDs camearound, I swear to God.
Like when I started, it was all VHSand we had like one baby little wing
of like DVD and it was almost likekind of like scoffed at like, Oh,

(01:13:55):
this is the new beta, you know, like,this is like a flash in the pan.
This DVD shit ain't gonnafucking last, you know, like.
And I saw it like within a matter of like,I've said this before on my podcast, but
like, it is really weird to see, likewithin the space of like three months
and then six months and then a year tosee tapes, which were just ubiquitous

(01:14:18):
when you grew up with that kind oflike analog, it was like a staple of
like tapes, you know, movies, and thenseeing it just like overtaken like a
fucking parasite or like a, like a virus.
Like overtook the store and like thenext year, like 2001 creeping into 2002.
It's like, all of a sudden VHSwas like 10 percent of the store.

(01:14:39):
It was nuts.
Like how quick that technologylike took, took hold.
And then it was like two, then like peoplewere juggling like DVD and like HD DVD.
Yep.
If you remember that, that was,that was like the, the CD, I guess,
medium equivalent of like betaand VHS when that was going on.

Jon (01:14:59):
Well, that's what I was going to say.
It's funny you mentioned that, but Imean, CDs had been around forever, right?
Right.
Yeah.
And so
like, I think of music like tapes, right?
Like I'm sure there was a thought processwith that with cassette tapes as well.
And then like, like CD justfucking, you know what I mean?

Jim (01:15:14):
Yeah, I guess if you were, you should have thought or like most people should
have thought that that was like moreof like a lock, you know, the way the
cassettes, but I don't know, I think itwas a, it was a different animal because
cassettes were like, Like those weresupplanted in like the early nineties.
So I think that was like kindof more in the rear view.

(01:15:35):
Whereas like movies, like just like tapeswere so much more like, I don't know,
ingrained, like of having a tape and like,you know, like being drilled into rewind
it and like, fuck with the tracking.
That's like when I saw this, thislink and I saw like the fuzziness
at the bottom, I was like, dude,that reminds me like so many times

(01:15:55):
of like, Where's the fucking remote?
You know, like fuck with thetracking, get it just perfect.
Like, like feather it to get it like nice.
Like that shit.
That's just like, we're watchingshit in 4k and fucking streaming it.
Like fucking like internet even likedude, the internet commercial for AT& T.
Did you guys see that?

(01:16:16):
The seven, seven, like 7 forinternet and long distance calling.
I was like, That's so wild.
I remember in like 2001, like peoplegetting like DSL and being like, that's
the fastest fucking shit on the block.
Like, yeah, dude, my phone pisseson DH DSL now, like in like a rural
area up in the mountains, like.

(01:16:39):
Sorry, I went off on afucking tangent there.
No, no, I fucking love it.

Chris (01:16:41):
That's what the show is all about.
It's the name of the show, Dead Formats.
VHS is very much a dead format, so it'snice to have the perspective of someone
who got to watch it die in a video store.

Jim (01:16:53):
Yeah, it's weird.
Dude, I remember one of my favoritetasks was rewinding tapes because we
had, we had like tape rewinders andthen we had the fucking, we had the
Corvette, the one that was like a car.
Literal Corvette.
Actual car rewinder, you putit in the ass and fucking pop
it down, the wheels would go.

Chris (01:17:13):
Dude.
That is something they show in this movie.
She has a bank of rewinders.

Jon (01:17:18):
Oh, I didn't even fucking clock that.
Yeah, she had like 10 of them, man.
She's like loading them up.
Yeah.
Dude,

Jim (01:17:24):
real quick.
Sorry.
Funny story.
Last time I'll bring this up.
We'll work in a video store.
Do you remember when you guys would goand drop tapes like in the return slot?
Oh yeah.

Jon (01:17:34):
Like at the store or just like anywhere.
Cause I remember they had thoselike slots that you could all over
town that were like drop spots.
Right?

Jim (01:17:40):
Well, no, I'm talking.
So like in the actual building andyou were like in a rush and you
didn't want to go inside and returnthem and they had the quick drop.
Yep.
Yep.
I think it was actually calledquick drop at blockbuster and you
just fucking feed them through.
That slot and then fucking hightailit out, dude, there were so many
times, like, I don't know what it was.
It was just like shitty luck.
So like, you'd have to go down there.

(01:18:01):
You'd have to clamber down.
It's like a little, you'd have to,I'd have to get on my knees and
then get under this little space.
And so it was like perfect.
It was like a foot above your head.
Where the slot was dude, there wereso many times when I go to fetch tapes
when the fucking the bin was likeoverfilling and I go and I'd just be
fucking shucking them and someone wouldcome in and jam them in at like full

(01:18:24):
fucking speed and I just eat threetapes to the side of the head like
Chris Farley like Dude so many times.
I just ate tapes to like the side of mytemple Like, an inordinate amount, like,
I was like, this is, the timing of thisis fucking horseshit, like the universe
is fucking playing a joke on me right now.

(01:18:45):
It

Jon (01:18:45):
was all the same guy, did he just wait for you to thunder that?
Oh, he's down there.

Chris (01:18:50):
Oh, there he is.

Jon (01:18:50):
Yeah.

Chris (01:18:51):
Damn.
Yeah, it's funny though, like, that'sone of the differences between VHS and
DVDs, like, tapes had that heft to them.
Yeah, that's why I don't know.
But with DVDs, you would get tothe store and you'd be like, oh
fuck, I forgot to put the disc inthe case, and I gotta go back home.

Jon (01:19:09):
Pull it out of the DVD player.
Yeah,

Jim (01:19:11):
dude.
There was some fun things to whenI would, cause like when you return
tapes, you'd have to crack themopen to verify that tape matched the
fucking barcode and what was in it.
Oh word.
Dude.
There was one.
There was so many times people wouldbreak it open and use it to split weed
on and fucking roll joints or blunts.
Dude, I got one.
One time it was just like, Icracked it open and there was a

(01:19:31):
shit ton of like weed crumbs andlike a couple of papers in there.
I fucking just.
Put it right in my pocket.
Fuck that shit.
Save that guy for later, you know,like, or people would bring shit
from like Hollywood video and everyonce in a while we'd have to go
take, dude, it was like, it was like.
Unholy ground and vice versawhen they come over, they'd be

(01:19:55):
like, got some tapes for you.
Fuck

Chris (01:20:01):
that.
I would take that shit home.

Jon (01:20:03):
For

Chris (01:20:04):
real.
Yeah.
Fuck my copy of gladiator.
Yeah.
Good times.
Yeah.
So, uh, beer money thoughts,

Jim (01:20:13):
gentlemen.
I've been talking enough.
You take this one first, John.

Jon (01:20:18):
Yeah, this is, uh, I'm not going to lie.
I fired it up, Chris.
And I was like, whatthe fuck are we doing?
Um, but similar to what, what, uh, Jim hadsaid earlier, it really kind of I think
there's a certain turning point where you,you kind of buy into what it is, right?

(01:20:38):
Because at first I was, I reallywasn't aware that there was even
USA original movies, you know?
So I'm just thinking this is kind of likesome, and then all of a sudden, so I think
once you gather that information, you'relike, Oh, this is a fucking made for,
for TV, you know, USA film, like, it's.
There's no reason to hold it to likethis crazy golden fucking standard, you

(01:21:01):
know and so I think once you kind of getover that hump and you realize exactly
what it is and You get these guys likeyou're talking about the the the comedy
There, there's plenty of, of shiningspots here where the comedy does hit
and it's like, yeah, this is, this hasgot some funny shit and, and even the E.
T., like you talk, likeyou talk about the E.

(01:21:21):
T.
flip, it's just, it, it really is alike point out, you know, as much as
you can remember, they're like, oh, dumband dumber, like, oh, yeah, that's E.
T., that's, you know, and, and I thinkthat's also another fun aspect of it.
So, yeah, this, this, this was solid.
I enjoyed it.
And it took a minute, but once I, onceI settled in and was like, what are you

(01:21:42):
doing to, this isn't going to be, youknow, a fucking triple a title release.
And the, you know, like, yeah, it's,it's a, it's a, it's a cheesy movie.
It's fucking, it's, it'sawesome for what it is.
Nice.

Jim (01:21:57):
Yeah, I mean, pretty much almost the same exact, uh, scenario for me,
like right at the beginning, likeI said, I was like, Jesus fucking
Christ, this is, this is rough.
And I tried watching it the firstnight and I got like 30 minutes
in and I passed the fuck out.
And then.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I watched it while I was working andI just had it on in the background.

(01:22:19):
It was like, Oh, that bad.
So I watched like three quarters of it.
It was like, all right, I'm goingto give it the full fucking Monty.
And I got off work and like put everyoneto bed and I fucking like locked in.
And it's like, let's watch thisfucking thing and take some notes.
And like, I should reallyhate this movie still.
And I did.
And I want to now also, but I don't, and Ican't put into words why I don't hate it.

(01:22:45):
As much as I should, and I suspectlike, as we've talked about, like all
the stuff surrounding it and like thecool, like it being found by you and you
ripped it onto a tape and like it's gotthese fucking commercials and nostalgia
factor, like that, that's definitelyadding to the enjoyment of like it as
an experience uncovering this thing.

(01:23:06):
But like, uh, And I still, like thefirst 20 minutes of this, I just hate it.
It's so grimy, like when they'rein that fucking taco stand, he
steps on the fucking hot dog.
And like, as much as I likefusion in food, like taco dog
sounds pretty fucking rad.
Like, um, just like the,the grossness of it.
And like, it really like seeping intolike the base 2000s level of bullshit.

(01:23:31):
Just riding with it, though.
Like, there is some funny stuff,like, as much as, like, I hate
Rutt and, like, that other, theBlank guy, like, they grow on you.
And, one note I put, too, notenough alien in this fucking film.
Agreed.
At all.
Yeah, that would have plussed it up forme like big time, but, um, cause he's

(01:23:52):
pretty cute and like some of the shithe was saying and like his, like, I wish
they could have incorporated him hijinx,maybe like palling around with him a
little bit more, maybe all of that movie,Paul, that came out a few years ago.
Uh, if anyone's seen that, um, Ithought that that would have served it
better, but anyway, long story short.
Yeah.
I feel very similar to John.

(01:24:12):
Like it just, you realize what you'regetting into at the USA fucking
Original from 2001, like, yeah, Ican't quite put into words why, but
it's not that bad and it did grow.
It did.
It grew on me and I, Ienjoyed the experience.

Chris (01:24:30):
Yeah.
I mean, I think nostalgia definitely.
Plays a huge factor in it.
And especially as you said, like theform in which it's presented, like low
fidelity with original commercials,like that probably helps a lot.
I feel like if we were to just watch thison a streaming service in like 10 80.
I probably would have fucking hated it.

(01:24:50):
Yeah, that's a different experience.
Um, but I also don't hate it.
I don't think it's good.
There are some good things about it.
I, I agree.
They probably should have had more alienbecause the alien, the effects are like
the suits pretty good for like a TV movie.
Totally.
Um, like its mouth moves andits eyes move like that's.

(01:25:11):
Nailed it.
That's the basics.
Yeah.

Jim (01:25:14):
Yeah, and he was cute.
He was likable, youknow, like is this fun?
I wish we had more

Chris (01:25:20):
and I think that my major problems with it were are two like things that
I Completely glossed over in my notes.
There are like two subplots that Ididn't even touch on There's like a
whole thing with Mark Paul Gosselaar'sbrother in law like finds the ray gun and
is trying to sell it like that drags itdown and then that dude Cosmo Yep gets

(01:25:43):
kidnapped by the paper boys I didn'teven mention his name once cuz I just
did not give a fuck about that Yeah, hejust gets the shitty end of the stick

Jim (01:25:52):
the entire movie Yeah, all those stomach like the ADR they use for
this like in the stomach gurgles.
Oh, yeah his Affliction was brutal.
Yeah Yeah.
So,

Chris (01:26:03):
you know, it's a two out of five it's whatever.
Like it's, I've seen way worse things.
I've seen way better things.
Uh, I don't foresee myself watchingthis again anytime soon, but that
being said, I've probably seenit like five times throughout my
life, so it can't be that bad.

Jon (01:26:24):
Dude, I just kept getting images in my head of like Chris in 2001 as
a kid, just like run into the couch.
Like, Oh, beer money's on like that.

Chris (01:26:33):
You must understand that is what happened.
Yeah.
Whatever commercials for this,like the weeks leading up to it.
I was like, I have to watch andrecord beer money on June 19th, 2001.
Yeah.
It's going to change

Jon (01:26:48):
my life.
Yeah, once I saw what like once I likeI saw the recording right like you're
talking about and that like that justthat just kept coming to me I was like man
this like like this was like summertimeChris was at a school yeah is like oh
man beer money's on the USA original Igotta get there and I was like it just
it made the movie of that much moreenjoyable I would add that to it where I

(01:27:08):
was like anytime you get that where it'slike Getting a peek into someone's world.
You know what I mean?
Like the idea of, of, of you asa, as a kid during the summer.
And it was like, your thing was like, Igot to record all these USA original film.
Like, like, it's just, it's always, it'salways a fun glance into, into somebody's.

(01:27:29):
You know, world.
So that, that part was cool.
I think that definitelyadded to it as well.

Chris (01:27:34):
Hell yeah.
That's me.
Weird kid.

Jim (01:27:38):
Well, that's real too though.
Cause back in those days, like youdidn't have shit on demand, right?
Like, you know, like you had tolike scope shit and like, no.
And like, if I was going to record some,or even like, if you were trying to catch
something, like to watch it, you had thefucking, like this time, this date, like

(01:27:58):
Now I feel like that that kind of movie,the entertainment discipline is lost

Jon (01:28:04):
No, for sure.
Because it isn't even aguide during this time.
Right.
Like, 'cause before you had like a,your regular TV guide, but it wasn't
like with cable where you couldhit guide and see like time slots.
Yeah.
Right.
And like what was coming up, up you had,

Jim (01:28:17):
you had like the preview channel that you had to fucking sit and
wait your As for it to scroll down.
Yeah.
Like even that was like new school.
I remember like.
Like being mesmerizedby the preview channel.
Yeah.
Like, yeah, that was the equivalentof, you know, getting on Netflix and
scrolling through like, what am I goingto watch that was that the preview

(01:28:39):
channel, just scrolling through like,okay, what, what's, and then like,
dude, like planning, mapping shit out,dude, I remember when I was a kid in the
summertime and like going to my grandma'shouse and shit and spending the night and
having full run of like the TV and havingthe TV guide and like circling shit.
And like 2 15 a.
m.
This is coming on TNTand like shit like that.
Like it brought, it conjured those kindsof memories too, that were a lot of fun.

(01:29:02):
Oh yeah.
Like have your, your one foot in analogone foot and digital still like, like.

Chris (01:29:09):
Yeah.
I mean, I watched that TV guidechannel for hours at a time, just
watching it scroll and like hopingsomething good would come on.
And recently we were watching some ofmy significant others like home videos.
And I guess her dad hadtaped over some of it.
And part of it is like just thescrolling of the TV guide channel.

(01:29:31):
So I'm definitely going to go back andlike snag that and be like, Oh shit.
And, uh, 2002 they wereplaying fucking God knows what.
On Cinemax,

Jim (01:29:43):
dude, I remember the preview channel used to have, so it was like you put it
on the preview channel and have all thechannels and it'd scroll through like
you would with the menu on cable, butyou couldn't do it manually would scroll
through stuff to watch it, but then inthe top left, they would have previews
play for whatever the fuck it'd be like,okay, coming up on august 29th on HBO,

(01:30:08):
dude, there's one movie in particular,I can't remember the movie, but it was
like a direct to HBO or Cinemax moviethat Anna Nicole Smith was in, in like
96, where she's like, it was like,it was like a knockoff barbed wire.
Like she's a helicopter.
It was like an action thing,dude, that specific movie.

(01:30:29):
I went like that one summer.
I went through the preview channelso much that I still think sometimes
oddly, like I had that memory.
And I don't know what the

Chris (01:30:38):
fuck that movie is.
I actually added that to my watchliston Letterboxd not that long ago,
so now I'm scrolling to see what itwas called so I can tell you, cause

Jim (01:30:48):
It was like Skyscraper or some, some stupid shit like that.
It might not

Chris (01:30:52):
be the same one, but on the cover she's like, you know, doing that typical,
like, I'm holding a gun, like Yeah.
To the limit.

Jim (01:30:59):
Maybe that was it.
I can't, I can't even remember.
I'd have to like sit down and watchthat trailer and it would fuck, it
would come back to me just the wayI like the Miss Cleo or the fucking
cranberry almond crunch did whenI watched beer money, which by the
way we had, I did, I made this note.
I want to, I want to read thisto the, um, the, the second Miss

(01:31:21):
Cleo commercial spot that we get,It was so fucking cheese ball.
So she's like, it justzooms in on her immediately.
It like cuts to the commercial.
And she's like, there's also a male outthere near the position or near the job
that you think is quite attractive, quiteintelligent, and that's also a motivation.
Is it not?
And the lady on the phone's like, what?

(01:31:43):
And it's like, wait, wait, someone youwork with that you think is attractive.
It's like, that's cold reading.
Like one on one.
It's like, yeah, you're really goingout on a fucking limb lady that a woman
at work might be interested in a dudethat's somewhat attractive at your job.
And she's like, now we're gettingto the good stuff as they say.

Chris (01:32:08):
Well, it's also as funny as the one you brought up earlier
about the dude with the nice legs.
Like this.
Well, this is the commercial.
Like this is what you are choosingto show on TV to display your skills.
And even in that she's like, ishe the one with the nice legs?
And she's like, uh, um, I,

Jim (01:32:26):
yeah,

Chris (01:32:27):
it takes her.
And then she's like,

Jim (01:32:28):
yep, that's the tower card and it's doing this.
And like, I'm
like, how do people buy into this?
You got them good, man.
The doc is actually crazy.

Chris (01:32:38):
Yeah, I've been meaning to check it out.
It's pretty good.
I didn't even know

Jim (01:32:41):
there was one until I did some research on this.
I was like, oh yeah, Ms.
Cleo, and I fuckin punched it up andsaw that they made a fuckin a Max
documentary not too long ago about her.
Yeah.
Rest in peace, Ms.
Cleo.

Chris (01:32:53):
Bore one out.
Any other notes on commercials, Jim?

Jim (01:32:57):
We didn't touch on it.
Actually, there's, there'sthree, I'll make it real fast.
Blueberry morning was, fuck dude,I forgot all about that cereal.
I could eat a goddamn, uh, laundrybasket full of blueberry morning, dude.
That shit was so good.
Like a fucking, I could just sitdown on my couch, Saturday morning

(01:33:20):
cartoons and just fucking crushup mixing bowl of that shit.
The ballpark Franks, atleast he can eat like a man.
Yeah.
The last one though was, um, the dude,it's like a grocery store and the dude's
checking like he's like, he's got theprice gun, the old school sticker price.
Yeah.

(01:33:40):
And he sees the chick with the fuckingrack, and he's just like, Ooh, and he's
oogling, and he's fucking just scanningshit mindlessly, because he's possessed by
the tits, and he scans all these fucking,like, New York strip steaks, like, 47
cents, and this dude's going up the aisle,and he sees him, and he fucking just fills
his whole cart full of all these steaks.

(01:34:02):
And then he goes to the checkout andthe checkers like, well, and then
it's like, it's our fridge commercial.
It's

Chris (01:34:08):
a Sears fridge commercial.

Jim (01:34:11):
Sears, like you mean the new fridge come on down to Sears.
I was like, dude, that's so likelate nineties, two thousands,
like just the aesthetic and likeeverything it was going for.
I was like, dude,

Jon (01:34:23):
that's what rocking tits will do to you, dude.
You got to get a fridge.

Jim (01:34:28):
16 year old just oogling,

Chris (01:34:32):
yeah, hell yeah.
Those

Jim (01:34:33):
were, those commercials like really, my enjoyment level went through
the roof for all of this as a whole.
Yeah.

Chris (01:34:42):
Well, speaking of commercials, I do have a little game for you guys to play.
Nice.
You always, dude, you

Jim (01:34:48):
always bring the heat with games.
Yeah, dude.
You got, yeah.
You're the man.
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
It's basically

Chris (01:34:53):
just about.
Some of the products we saw commercialsfor a lot of it, I think it's probably
going to be a crap shoot, but, uh, if youthink, you know, the answer, just buzz in
with your name and, uh, hit me with it.
So simple enough, right?
Yeah.
So first, first question, which of thefollowing country time lemonade flavors

(01:35:14):
has been disc or let me phrase this, whichof the following has never been a country
time lemonade flavor half and half.
Blueberry Lemonade or Limeade.
John.
John.
The blueberry.
Sorry, that's incorrect.
Ah!
I'm gonna go
Limeade.
That is the correct answer.

(01:35:35):
Son of a bill.
You know, I was kind of surprised because you would think that at some
point, like, that's, that's the nextlogical one, but they're probably
just, like, so loyal to lemons.

Jim (01:35:48):
I was thinking of my mind's eye.
I was like, I distinctly only, I don'teven remember like from the commercial,
the fucking with the iced tea.
I was like, that's fucking wild.
They, they fucking beat ArtiePalmer's to the punch, but I, I
specifically remember burned intomy brain was just straight lemonade
and the pink lemonade that they did.
Cause my dad used to workconstruction and those fuckers,

(01:36:10):
they were fiends for country time.
They always had like, you know, thosebig orange jugs on the back of trucks?
Yeah, the Gatorade jugs.
Dude, it was country time andcountry time pink lemonade.
Like that was, that was their jam.
So, Hey, that's my jam too.
I love pink lemonade.
Pink lemonade's hard to beat.
What is the pink in it though?
Is it strawberry or res?

(01:36:32):
No, cause strawberry is

Chris (01:36:33):
like a dis it's just pink.

Jim (01:36:35):
It's just pink like grape drink?
Yeah, exactly like that.

Chris (01:36:39):
All right.
Next question.
Which of the following is not acurrent variety of DiGiorno pizza?
Sausage and gravy, garlic bread,or classic crust spicy Wolvie?
Jim.
Jim.

Jim (01:36:54):
What's the last one?
Sp Spicy Crust Wolfie?
Classic,

Chris (01:36:58):
classic crust spicy wolfie.
That one.
That is incorrect.

Jon (01:37:03):
Fuck.
Alright, I'm gonna go with thefirst one, the sausage gravy?
That is also incorrect.

Jim (01:37:12):
I was like, that's too obvious for it to be that,
because I feel like it has to be.
to be that, but it can't

Chris (01:37:19):
discontinued garlic bread pizza.
And the last one is like a promotionalfor Deadpool and Wolverine.

Jim (01:37:26):
Oh, okay.
That should have jumped off the page.
But I was like, I couldn'tfor the life of me.
I was like, what's fucking Wolvie.
Is that some midwestern fuckingdelicacy that they fucking
Yeah, it was like garlic bread

Jon (01:37:39):
pizza.
There's no way you don't Yeah.

Chris (01:37:41):
You cut out garlic bread.
You would think.
I mean, you'd thinkthey're insane to do so.

Jim (01:37:46):
Chris is slippery.
You gotta be thinking rightbrain or left whatever brain it
is that's the unorthodox side.
You gotta be thinking wild.

Chris (01:37:55):
No points on that one.
One to nothing, Jim.
The next one.
Which of the following hot dogbrands has not been discontinued?
SK, Hoffee, or Brian Wieners?
Jim.
Jim.

Jim (01:38:12):
SK.

Chris (01:38:13):
Incorrect.
Fuck.

Jim (01:38:15):
I've never heard of any of these three names.
I'm going to go with Hoffie.
I was like, I was waiting forBarr, I was waiting for Barr S.
Come on.

Chris (01:38:21):
So John is correct.
The answer is Hoffie.
Nice.
SK is like the.
I want to say it was the Balt, it wasthe Baltimore Orioles, like stadium
hot dog that they don't make anymore.
But yeah, they, thisHoffie still in business.
Damn.
I don't even holding strongtall, tied up one to one.
All right.

(01:38:42):
Which of these was not a flavorof surpass antacid chewing gum,
cinnamon, wintergreen or fruit.
John, John fruit.
That is incorrect.

Jim (01:38:56):
Jim.
What was, what was the not cinnamon one?
Wintergreen.

Chris (01:39:00):
I'm gonna go wintergreen.
That is also incorrect.

Jon (01:39:03):
Fuck!

Chris (01:39:04):
Cinnamon.

Jim (01:39:04):
Cinnamon?
Really?

Jon (01:39:05):
That's such a classic gum flavor.

Jim (01:39:07):
I know, I was gonna go cinnamon, but I was like, nah, this fucker plays hard.
He plays hardball.
So maybe it's like the mostobvious that would be still around.
Obviously

Chris (01:39:18):
I was a child.
So like I wasn't in the marketfor antacid gum at the time.
So I have no memory of this, butafter watching the commercial,
apparently it was only on the marketfor like a year because like, they
just, no one fucking wanted that.

Jim (01:39:34):
I mean, fuck being older now.
It would be nice to have a fuckingantacid gum on board sometimes instead
of fucking like do we have any Tumslike fuck Who stocks Tums regularly?
Although I will say like theyogurt blends are fucking nice.
Yeah, those ones are bum

Chris (01:39:55):
Which of these phone services is no longer in operation?
1 800 CALL ATT 10 102 20 or 1 800 COLLECT.
John.
Jim.
John.

Jon (01:40:08):
It's got, if this is wrong, it's gotta be 20.
That's wrong.
No!
That's still in operation.
No fucking way!

Jim (01:40:16):
Doug!
That was my guess too, soWhat was the first one?
1 800 COLLECT?
And then 1 800 Call AT& T.

Chris (01:40:25):
Fuck.
I'm going 1 800 COLLECT.
Wrong.
That's what I thought for sure, too!
That is
still in operation.
Call ATT isn't.

Jon (01:40:37):
That is so funny.
As soon as you said that answer,I was like, that's still around?

Chris (01:40:46):
I, I mean, there's two, there's two more and it's all tied up, so.
Alright.
It's anyone's game, and I tried to makethis a fair game, but based on what Jim
was talking about earlier, I think thisone leans in his favor, unfortunately.
Alright.
Which of the following wasnot a variety of post select?

(01:41:09):
Great grains, raisin, date,and pecan, banana nut crunch,
or sunrise crunchy cinnamon.
Jim, sunrise crunchy cinnamon.
That's correct.

Jon (01:41:19):
Fuck yeah.
So locked in.
I was like, I can try and go forthis and have a one in three shot.
And I was like, well, if I fuckedthat up, it just gives him who
already has it a fucking 50 50.
But you were cocked, man.

Jim (01:41:32):
Cereals, 93 and beyond.
Cereals 93 to like 2005, I, I'd beconfident that I would fucking ace.
That was my

Chris (01:41:45):
cereal era.
2 to 1 in favor of Jim.
This will, this will tie it up,in which case I'll have to think
of something else off the top ofmy head to determine a winner.
Alright.
Which of the following Chili's menu items has not been discontinued?
Oh, fuck.
Original Chicken Dippers SouthwesternEgg Rolls Or Awesome Blossom.

(01:42:08):
John.
John.
Awesome Blossom.
I'm so sorry, but that's incorrect.
Fuck.
The game is Jim's.
Do you have, do you have a, aguess, Jim, of which Can you

Jim (01:42:19):
repeat the first two, or is that Original

Chris (01:42:21):
Chicken Dippers and Southwestern Egg Rolls.

Jim (01:42:25):
Fuck.
I feel, cause I feel like bothof those two are staples still.
I haven't been to a Chili'ssince 2011, I think.
I'm more, I'm a Chevy'sman, so, um, God damn it.
One or two, one or two.
I'm going two.
The, uh, egg rolls.

Chris (01:42:45):
Yep, that's, that's the one that's still on the menu, so
Uhhhhhh Three to one, I got cooked.
Technically.
I mean, I would say two to one,really, is, is where it came out,
if you want to look at it that way.
Yeah, fuck yeah, I'll

Jim (01:42:57):
take that.
That was blind

Chris (01:42:59):
luck.
And Yeah, well, who almost

Jim (01:43:03):
I almost went with dippers to

Chris (01:43:04):
man who knew he were post selects connoisseur never

Jim (01:43:08):
Dude, yeah Cereal cuz cuz you said one and two I was like
a thousand percent on both ofthose So I was like that's easy.
That's why I was so hard with the

Chris (01:43:20):
yeah, you had that one I don't even remember post selects existing.
Although apparently they still do so

Jim (01:43:27):
I meant to look into it.
I need to see if they still make blueberrymorning somewhere, like overseas, or
if it's still in production, just notin the U S because dude, that shit is
crack and I can't believe I loved it somuch and it just fell out of my brain
and watching the commercial during this,I was like, it was like, Trumpets like

(01:43:48):
angels, the warmest feeling in the worldto blueberry morning was fucking crack.
It was so good.
I don't even know why, because it wasjust like, like cornflake looking things.
It's like raising

Chris (01:44:01):
the raisin bran flake type things.
Yeah.

Jim (01:44:04):
And then just little dots, tiny, like dipping dot style
dots of blueberry strewn around.
But, the flakes, they didsomething to the flakes.
They were like bomb.
They were like Oil and green

Jon (01:44:17):
is people.

Jim (01:44:18):
Yeah.
Maybe it was, dude.
Fuck.
Maybe that was the hook.
More of a

Chris (01:44:23):
Count Chocula man, myself.
Okay.

Jim (01:44:26):
I haven't played in the serial game in quite a while, but the last time I
did fuck around, uh, Oops All Berries.
Yeah,

Jon (01:44:34):
when I was a kid it was Oops All Berries.
That is

Jim (01:44:37):
pretty fucking unbeatable.
I could just The blue box.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't care if I'm ripping upthe fucking roof of my mouth
like that's that's worth it.
Yeah, I love the pain

Chris (01:44:49):
So with that that was 2001's beer money.
Thank you guys for coming on andbreathing life into this dead format
with me Tell the fine folks outthere where they can find you and
anything you've got in the works

Jon (01:45:04):
John dog Yeah, uh, so right now twitch.
tv slash kinetic onslaught spelledwrong is where you can find me Uh
again, I would feel terrible if Ididn't take the time to plug sin amigos
as you know I was a part of that fora long time and those are great guys.
So make sure you check that outthe sin amigos and uh Other than

(01:45:29):
that, come on by we're in themiddle of metal gear on the nes.
It's a fucking slog Uh againFeel free to talk shit.
Come on by you disagree.
You think beer money is the mostamazing film you've ever saw.
Come let me know.

Jim (01:45:44):
Dude, that's crazy.
Metal gear goes all theway back to any NES.

Jon (01:45:48):
The first one was metal.
It was actually on the MSX, which is a,uh, some, um, it's some kind of like, so

Chris (01:45:55):
it's sort of like, uh, personal computer slash game system
that was very popular only in Japan.
Like it's a, a format of computers.
Sony had an MSX Mitsubishi had an MSX.
Okay.

Jon (01:46:09):
Yeah.
I had, I had never even heard of it.
That's cool.
That you, you, you know, becausewhen I was playing the game, people
were like, this game is amazing.
And it's so unfortunate thatyou have to play it on the NES.
Cause on the MSX, thisshit was the future.
And I was just like, Oh man,just another poor NES port that

(01:46:29):
you got to fucking log through.

Jim (01:46:32):
Damn.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
I, I was just going to ask John afucking retro game question and it
just fell out of my fucking brain.
Ugh.
Oh, uh, what was, what, what's the systembefore Genesis but it was like Genesis?
Master System.
Master System.
Yep.

(01:46:53):
Dude, I remember my cousin had that, like, that was like the, that
was the precursor to the Genesis.
Yep.
Mm hmm.
And we played some games on that,and then fucking, then it went into
Genesis, and I was a Sonic head.
Like, I All of their

Jon (01:47:05):
carts were really crazy.
It was just like a black cart.
What's a black and red checkered boardand then the name in white, like there was
zero, there's nothing different than that.
And that's what every singlecard on that system is.

Chris (01:47:19):
Yeah.
I actually used to have one, not asa child, but when I was collecting
video games, I had one, but.
I just never really played itbecause not that many places
have games for them like yeah,

Jon (01:47:31):
it's tough to find Yeah, I think there was an ALF game.
There was it's actually the chasethat is the chase on that system.
Yeah.
Oh

Chris (01:47:43):
Typical me to like oh, I really I'm interested in this.
Oh that one's 500.
Yeah, that's the chase for sure It alsohad a built in game That was, I wanna,
it was like one of those Space Harriertype games and it had 3D glasses.

Jon (01:47:58):
They were very popular.
That was, yeah.
What was the controllerlike on that thing?
Was it just like the Genesis?
It was more like an

Chris (01:48:04):
NES.
It was like a square.
Or a rectangle, yeah.
Interesting.

Jim (01:48:11):
I'm feeling a bit KFC around?
Hell yeah.
Um, and yeah, for me, uh, like I said,we're kind of in a bit of a holding
pattern on waxing the porpoise, butI still keep renewing all of our
shit in the hopes of like just doingit next week, doing it next week.
And we haven't.

(01:48:34):
Waxing the porpoise.
Check us out where you can just Google it.
We're on socials and we have a backcatalog if you want to listen and we'll
be back sometime soon, hopefully afterthe new year, sometimes when, when things
settle down a bit, but, um, thanks forhaving me on this last four months.
Shit is fucking awesome.
And I appreciate being tapped for beermoney as much as I hated the beginning.

(01:48:57):
Like it was like the friendswe made along the way, kind of.
The experience was fucking a lot of funin this discussion was, was super fun too.
So

Chris (01:49:07):
on behalf of Jim and, uh, staring John, I'm Chris.
This has been anotherepisode of dead formats.
If you have any questions about the show,or if you have a dead format topic that
you'd like to hear me cover, or if youhave any suggestions for potential guests.
Please reach out.
You can email me atdeadformatspod at gmail.

(01:49:28):
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