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July 4, 2025 โ€ข 55 mins

In this episode of the DeFi Podcast, we sit down with Excel Baller (@ExcelBaller), creator of Satly - the revolutionary Bitcoin L1 built on Avalanche that makes sending Bitcoin as easy as sending an email.

Excel reveals how Satly is solving Bitcoin's biggest UX problems by enabling users to email Bitcoin like Venmo, without wallets, seed phrases, or 30-minute confirmation waits. Just type an email address, send Bitcoin, and the recipient gets it instantly with a simple click to claim.

We explore why Lightning Network hasn't achieved mass adoption, how Satly's native BTC gas token works on Avalanche, and Excel's vision for making Bitcoin accessible to everyone - including grandmothers who just want to send their grandsons birthday money.

The conversation also dives into Bitcoin's 290% outperformance vs Ethereum's 35%, the $500M locked in Avalanche's Bitcoin bridge showing real demand, and why Bitcoin's disciplined "store of value" narrative is winning over institutional adoption.

Key Topics:

๐Ÿ”ธ Satly's email-based Bitcoin payment system on Avalanche L1

๐Ÿ”ธ Why Lightning Network UX fails for mainstream adoption

๐Ÿ”ธ Native BTC gas token and instant settlement technology

๐Ÿ”ธ Bitcoin vs Ethereum performance analysis (290% vs 35%)

๐Ÿ”ธ MicroStrategy's distressed company pivot to Bitcoin treasury

๐Ÿ”ธ The future of Bitcoin DeFi and institutional yield strategies

๐Ÿ”ธ Why Bitcoin's "money" narrative beats all other crypto pitches

Chapters:

00:00 Introduction and Market Update

04:50 Deep Dive into Avalanche and Crypto Journey

10:01 Introducing Satly: Bitcoin L1 on Avalanche

27:23 Mastering Payments: The Key to Success

28:43 Focusing on Users and Product Development

30:17 Bitcoin vs. Ethereum: Market Dynamics

31:38 Exploring Bitcoin DeFi and Future Prospects

Try Satly Beta: satly.com (earn bid points for future airdrop)

Follow Excel Baller: @ExcelBaller

Follow the Pod: @DefiPodcast

Follow the Hosts: @Bill_Tanyeri, @JFSaine, @RhettShipp

Disclaimer: Nothing discussed on this podcast constitutes financial advice. The hosts and guest may hold positions in some of the assets or projects mentioned during the episode. Please consult a professional investment advisor and do your own research before making any financial decisions.

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