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September 4, 2025 45 mins

Join Bishop Shannon Duckworth (Diocese of Louisiana) as she discusses the third question of our baptismal covenant with Bishop Anne B. Jolly (Diocese of Ohio):

Will you proclaim by word and example the Good News of God in Christ?

Enter into their rich conversation about the challenges of being human in today’s complex world. As both colleagues and friends, they explore the tension between honoring ancient traditions and embracing fresh ways of thinking, the importance of deep listening and rootedness, and how building connections and reaching outward bring new vitality to the church.

About Bishop Jolly:

The Rt. Rev. Anne B. Jolly is the twelfth Bishop of the Diocese of Ohio. The first woman to serve as Bishop Diocesan, she was consecrated Bishop Coadjutor on April 29, 2023 and began serving as Bishop Diocesan on July 1, 2023. Prior to her election, she served as President of the Standing Committee in the Diocese of Chicago and as the ecclesiastical authority during an interim period between diocesan bishops. Ordained to the Priesthood in 2014, she served parishes in Illinois, Texas, Tennessee, and South Carolina, served on the board of the Episcopal Parish Network and on the World Missions Board for the Diocese of Texas. She received her B.A. from Furman University and her M.Div. from School of Theology at Sewanee.

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Show Notes:

The BANI Framework

  • Brittle
  • Anxious
  • Nonlinear
  • Incomprehensible

“BANI — Brittle, Anxious, Nonlinear, and Incomprehensible — is a framework to articulate the increasingly commonplace situations in which simple volatility or complexity are insufficient lenses through which to understand what’s taking place.” — Jamais Cascio, Distinguished Fellow, Institute for the Future, creator of the BANI framework

St. Benedict’s Rule of Life

  • Stability: A commitment to remain rooted in community.
  • Obedience: A practice of listening deeply to God.
  • Conversion: An ongoing process of inner transformation and renewal.

Together, these vows provide a framework for spiritual growth, grounding us in community while encouraging continual change and deeper faith. Bishop Jolly values these Benedictine principles because they offer both structure and room for being human.

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