“Relapse vs Recovery: Games, Coloring Books, and Breaking the Rules with Dave” - claws out 12

In this powerful episode, I sit down with Dave—the creative force behind the board game Relapse vs Recovery and its expansion pack, as well as the unique coloring books designed specifically for people in recovery. Dave’s work is more than just creative projects; it’s a bold statement about turning lived experience into tools for healing, reflection, and even laughter in the face of struggle.

Dave opens up about his own journey through addiction, jail time, and rehab, sharing how those experiences shaped his vision for recovery-focused art and games. We talk about the risks he took in publishing Relapse vs Recovery, including the fallout at his former job where he was fired under claims of “dual relationships” if clients at the recovery center purchased his game. Despite the setback, Dave continues to push forward, creating resources that challenge stigma and spark conversation in unconventional ways.

This episode dives deep into the intersections of creativity, recovery, and resilience. From the expansion pack that adds new layers to his board game, to the coloring books that give alcoholics a way to process and express themselves, Dave’s projects are proof that recovery can be rebellious, innovative, and unapologetically real.

Whether you’re in recovery, supporting someone who is, or simply curious about how art and play can transform lives, Dave’s story will leave you inspired, challenged, and reminded that recovery isn’t just about surviving—it’s about creating.