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March 24, 2025 52 mins

Recorded March 24, 2025

Get ready for a chilling episode of real-life dating nightmares! We dive into shocking crimes linked to dating apps, including the brutal murders of Miranda Corsette, Justy Stillwell, and more—straight from the headlines. Plus, we unpack the Bryan Kohberger University of Idaho case and debate his autism defense. Not all doom and gloom—we also reveal the 2025 happiest countries list and vent about HOAs, hairdressers, and Elon Musk hate. Love, murder, and raw rants—subscribe for more unfiltered stories every Monday!

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Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Transition to Crime Discussion 04:49 The Brian Koberger Case: A Deep Dive 09:46 Happiness Rankings: A Shift in Perspective 14:10 Social Connections and Their Impact on Happiness 20:06 The Dangers of Dating: Real-Life Cases 24:42 Researching Potential Dates: Safety Tips 27:13 Navigating Modern Dating: Personal Experiences 33:23 Reflections on Dating and Safety Awareness 36:15 Navigating Modern Dating 37:46 Perspectives on Elon Musk 42:45 The Tesla Debate 49:44 HOA Frustrations 51:14 Hairdresser Woes _________________________________________________________________________ CONTACT US YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@FierceAF FACEBOOK Jennifer - https://www.facebook.com/jenniferbashsrq Krista - https://www.facebook.com/Kaybee12 Danni - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61550042415407 Fierce AF - https://www.facebook.com/FierceAFPodcast _________________________________________________________________________ HOW CAN YOU SUPPORT US? Please Subscribe and Share!! It means more than you will ever know.

 

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(00:18):
Hey.
Hi.
How is everybody today?
Monday?
Is today Monday?
Oh, that's right, we switched it.
Sorry.
second guess.
I'm like I didn't do any crack today, so I'm thinking it is Monday
And I'm working, I'm working today unless I'm working on the weekend.

(00:41):
I guess I just, thinking we always do it on Tuesday, I've just, my mind is like, done.
Done.
Both Krista and I go, yeah, it is Monday.
It is, yes.
Well, I guess we are going to be switching to Monday since our Danni got a new job andgoing to be leaving us on Tuesdays now.

(01:01):
So we'll be switching to Mondays.
We may be skipping next week since you are leaving and then going to be starting.
So we may have to skip a week, but we'll talk about that later.
we could do that.
Yeah, we could do that.
about for a solid 40 minutes?
Danni for 40 minutes.

(01:21):
about me.
I'm used to that.
The Toby Key song.
let's get started with today's show.
got love, murder, and happiness.
Or love, murder, yeah, love, murder, and happiness, right?
We'll see.
about murder.
It's kind of fun.
I mean, it's not fun.
It's very sad and disgusting and horrible.

(01:42):
But it's fun to talk about, and I'm interested in it.
Today I'm going to talk about 30-year-old Brian Koberger.
He is the person who is accused of stabbing four University of Idaho students to deathwith a K-bar knife.
It's a crazy, crazy story.

(02:02):
Apparently, Koberger, as a like a
teenager, upper teen, mid-teens and early 20s was a heroin addict.
And he was pretty heavy, kind of fat.
And he has just had like a lifelong battle of whatever is in his brain.

(02:23):
His defense is saying that his very scary stare, I don't know if you've seen him at all,but he has this stare.
just stares at the camera with no emotion.
So now his defense is saying that he has OCD as well as autism.
So that's the reason why he doesn't look like he has any remorse or nervous or sad orwhatever, any emotion.

(02:49):
Is this the case that happened like many years ago or is this a new one?
of 22, where he, so he, yeah, he went into the house, he snapped four college, Universityof Idaho college students who had just gotten home from a night of, night out of having a
good time.

(03:09):
Two of the victims that he stabbed couldn't defend themselves or even resist because theywere so drunk.
So another reason to not,
get so annihilated that you can't defend yourself.
Not blaming those kids is terrible, terrible situation.
But he took this very eerie selfie just four hours after the alleged murders and he postedit on his, and that was apparently only four hours after he had brutally killed these

(03:44):
people.
Four young children with
too?
Didn't he have like a smirk on his face?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, as if he's possessed.
I hope they don't let him use any kind of defense.
He bought some sort of, it's called a K-Bar knife, K-Bar, K-Bar.
But here's what goes back to my first true crime.

(04:06):
He bought it on Amazon.
Like, okay, if you're a stupid criminal that's gonna start committing crimes, don't buyyour murder weapons on Amazon.
They're going to catch you.
So he bought the K-Bar, the sheath, and a sharpener on Amazon.
And then just weeks after the murders, in his shopping cart, his browsing history, itshows a replacement for the knife.

(04:34):
The same knife.
He wanted to replace it.
Because obviously he probably ditched it and got rid of it.
And he hasn't been convicted.
And I don't want anyone calling me saying he's not convicted and he's not a murderer.
So I don't know if he is.
But there is a lot of evidence.
to say that he is a murderer.
He's raising in the defense this week.

(04:56):
He's also a criminology PhD student.
he probably knew what he was doing or so he thought.
Yeah, out of school.
He went to the neighboring college in Washington, which is not very far away from Moscow.

(05:18):
So they're saying that he has autism.
I don't know if he had ever been diagnosed with autism in school or not, but he was in andout of rehab a lot as a young adult for heroin.
They say his behaviors are highly consistent with someone having autism.
Anyway, he's, they're just getting ready to start his trial.

(05:40):
So it's very interesting to me.
I mean, to kill four people.
in such a heinous crime like that with a knife is just brutal.
No.
It was three girls and one of the girls' boyfriends that he killed.
And did he track them?
Like, like, was he hunting them down or was it just like a random, he just happened to bethere and.

(06:04):
maybe he was at the bar and he saw them getting smashed and...
think they haven't really said anything.
It says the prosecutors, he was seen wearing gloves and placing trash baggies because ofthe guilty conscience.
So that right there saying that, you know, he knows what he's doing.
But I don't think that he tracked him, but they say when you kill with a knife like this,it's definitely personal.

(06:30):
I haven't seen, I've been looking all over, I haven't seen if he actually knew these kidsor not.
He didn't go to the same school, so I don't know.
They just say he has a developmental dis- like, he's not coordinated, so there's no way hecould have stabbed all these kids because the jury should know that Mr.
Koberger has a developmental coordination disorder that impacts his fine motor dexterityand visual motor function.

(06:56):
So there's no way he could stab all those children.
have them get up and do the knife.
Yeah, like how do you not, how, I can understand a gun, like being able to point and aimand hit the target, but a knife?
And it says the lawyers say such speed and coordination are not possible for him.
please.
Yeah.

(07:17):
So it's pretty scary.
It's just awful.
I just feel so terrible for those children's parents.
But they've the trial to Boise, Idaho, which is the capital of Idaho, where I lived foreight years.
I'll shout out to all my Boise people.
It's the best kept secret in the world.
Probably just let it out.
a lot of Californians are moving there.

(07:38):
But it is such a beautiful, beautiful place.
love Boise, Idaho.
Yeah.
So that's kind of what I have today.
I'll keep you posted on going forward on kind of the trial and how it's working, but it'sjust very interesting.
It's just, it's so awful that somebody has the power over, look at all those lies that hehas had the power over ruining.

(07:59):
Those parents will never be the same.
about this today, like, at what point does it become your first time?
You know what I mean?
Like, it just, how do you just wake up one day and be like, I'm just gonna buy a knife andgo kill four people.
yeah.
Yeah, well he bought the knife in March and he didn't kill him until November.

(08:21):
So he was thinking about it for a while.
And maybe he did kill other people.
Yeah.
Maybe he has committed it in other times.
And maybe he started out doing it with bunnies and all those psycho serial.
animals.
I think he's gonna be a serial killer.
He just kills animals.

(08:42):
Hope your neighbor doesn't watch this.
No, I don't care about her.
She's- I don't even know her name.
I don't- I don't- I'm not-
my son Aaron used to like to pitchfork frogs when he was little, like maybe seven oreight.
And he did, he did do that.
But we said, you know, if you, if you want to kill any frogs, you have to eat, eatwhatever you kill.

(09:03):
You're not, you don't get to just kill them randomly.
So he did.
He ate the frog legs with his grandpa.
Yeah.
But he, grew out of that.
He grew out of, yeah.
Yeah.
He grew out of that.
I'll have him make you up a batch.
Krista.
So that's what I have today.

(09:24):
Yummy in my tummy.
Go ahead, Krista.
You're up, ma'am.
well, so there was an article that came out with the 20 most happiest countries in 2025.
This was pretty interesting.

(09:45):
let me, I'll get to that in a second.
So Finland is the happiest country yet again,
eight years in a row.
Can you believe that?
so it's based on analysis of how the residents of over a hundred and forty Countries ratetheir quality of life So with ten meaning someone is currently living the best possible

(10:09):
life they can imagine Finns came in first with an average score of seven point seven four
So the author of this article says that they're wealthy, healthy, have social connections,social support, and connection with nature.
They're not happy, like joyful dancing in the street, but they're very content with theirlives.

(10:31):
So the US dropped to number...
24.
We're 24 on the 25 happiest.
20th, 20th, yeah, we're not even the top 20.
Last year they came in number 23, this year we are number 24, and they said the decline islargely contributed to the younger generations who are reporting lower levels of happiness

(10:58):
than ever before, which is like super sad for us.
they don't leave behind their computers and their games.
They don't get outside and enjoy fresh air.
Yeah.
Yeah.
go outside, right.
So there are a number of issues at play, like including eating alone, which is really sad.
One in four Americans ate all their meals alone the previous day and an increase of 53 %since 2003.

(11:29):
So 53 % of Americans eat by themselves.
I hate seeing people eating by themselves.
Like it always bothers me.
if they're old, you know, like, it says dining alone has become more prevalent for everyage, especially for the young people.
There is also something that the authors of the report call deaths of despair, especiallyamong younger Americans who feel less supported and less optimistic about their standard

(11:58):
of life.
on the other hand, it's not as bad among older.
The U.S.
ranks 10th for happiest among adults over 60.
Which is not bad.
I mean, that makes sense.
The boomers are happier.
Right, well, and we think we don't take care of our elders, but we do, I guess, betterthan maybe some countries do.

(12:18):
it says the Nordic countries historically are at the top are getting happier while the USis getting grumpier.
Probably because we have like such weight problems and things like that, we don't get outand exercise and we're all, everything needs to be at our fingertips and you know, if it's
not, we're so spoiled.
Yep.

(12:39):
While GDP per capita is relatively similar across the Nordic countries, the US, Australia,and UK, the distribution of wealth sets them apart.
in these Nordic Scandinavian countries, a rising tide lifts all boats.
So the levels of economic inequality are much less, and that reflects their well-being.

(13:01):
they're socialists.
They don't believe in capitalism.
I think so, yeah.
They all have social medical and I think in these countries too they have like maternityleave for like nine months or something or six months.
Even the men get paternity leave.
kind of go broke too, you know?
I mean, that's why everyone relies on America to pay for everything.

(13:22):
We gotta work hard so we can support all the other countries.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I know we do fund a lot of people.
Yeah, and they probably don't have five day work weeks either.
Or they get naps during the day.
That sounds really nice right now.
So...
started working yet.

(13:42):
Sounds good though.
So they were saying, this year the researchers found a strong correlation between someonebelieving in the kindness of others and their own perceived happiness.
Across the board, too often people underestimate the kindness of others.
Like say if someone will return a lost wallet, it affects the well-being.

(14:02):
Wallets are returned to their owner at almost twice the rate people assume.
However, compared to the US, more...
people in Nordic countries believe a lost wallet will be returned and more people arelikely to return it.
know, I mean, it's we're negative Nancy's all the time, you know, like we think we losesomething.
Yeah.

(14:23):
Well, we it's the perception like we think that if we lose something like we lose awallet, we're never going to see it again.
Someone's going to find it and they're going to keep everything on like.
I mean, actually one one time when we were selling Jay-Z's
last Jeep, he did it in the parking lot in the DMV right down the street.
He came home after doing the paperwork with the guy and he's like, where's my wallet?

(14:49):
I left my wallet on the Jeep and the guy drove off and the wallet probably fell off.
So we went back and drove and we couldn't find the wallet.
Literally, I kid you not, I was home two or three days later, somebody knocks on the doorand was like,
I found this wallet on the side of the road.
That happened to Colby last year.
He lost his wallet and somebody put it in the mail and mailed it to him.

(15:13):
That is nice when you hear that.
it except for his, I think his work, Lowe's credit card, like cash, our debit cards,credit cards, everything.
Yeah.
And of course we thought we would never see it again.
America does have honest people.
It just depends on who you are polling, right?
Just like how they say, know, Trump is this on the polls or Biden was that in the polls.

(15:37):
It just depends on who you're polling.
Exactly.
So the more you believe in the kindness of others, or in other words, are sociallytrusting, the higher your individual well-being and the higher collective well-being.
The Nordic countries do better both in beliefs of kindness and in the actual wallet drops.

(15:59):
Maintaining a sh-
their mainstream media is like.
Probably not all doom and gloom.
Right.
Just all snow and blizzards.
And the Northern Lights.
Maintaining a strong sense of community with acts such as regularly dining with others,for example, improves social trust happiness.
As for Mexico and Costa Rica, joining the top 10 for the first in the list history pointsto the strength of the country's

(16:24):
on that.
I can't imagine Mexico.
Okay.
it doesn't, I mean, as far as like other like political stuff, but this is the reason whylike it's, I think it has to do with like family values and stuff like that.
So it says it points to the strengths of the country's social fabrics.
Latin American countries reported the highest number of shared meals and ranked high onsocial connections and trust.

(16:51):
It helps explain.
Right, and they all eat together and it helps explain why their rankings dipped moredramatically in COVID-19 isolation years.
13 out of 14 meals shared across seven days correlated to the highest well-being measurefor those countries.
It's not because of the high GDP, it's the highest life expectancy.

(17:16):
They do spend time dining and lunching with others, having friends.
It's not all
cannibalized by social media.
So we picked up on this in the data.
They're content with less and they had less.
They're more content with less.
They're happier with what they got.
So let's talk about the top 20 countries.
So number one is Finland.

(17:37):
Number two is Denmark.
Number three is Iceland.
Number four is Sweden and number five is Netherlands.
So those are all the Scandinavian countries.
Six is Costa Rica, seven is Norway, eight is Israel, which that shocked me, yeah.
Nine is Luxembourg, 10 is Mexico, 11 Australia, 12 is New Zealand, 13 is Switzerland,which I thought Switzerland would be higher on the list, yeah.

(18:06):
Belgium, 14, 15 is Ireland, 16 is Lithuania, 17 is Australia, 18 is Canada.
Wow.
is Slovenia and 20 is Czech Republic.
Okay.
I have to ask you, Krista, is that like a giant balloon animal in the back?

(18:28):
Yeah, it's stuffed.
It's a stuffed balloon animal.
That's so cute!
That's so-
for Valentine's Day, so they had little ones and they had really big ones.
And right after Valentine's Day, was at Walmart, everything was like 75 % off.
That thing was originally $25, I paid $6 for it.

(18:48):
Aww, that's cute.
we were shopping at Valentine's Day, like right before Valentine's Day, I was shoppingwith Jay-Z and I showed it to him.
I was like, he's like, hell no.
So then I went grocery shopping after Valentine's Day and I saw it for six dollars.
I like, I'm gonna buy that for myself.
Screw it.

(19:09):
Thanks, Kylo hates it.
I bet that's the way the cats are with the new cuddle clone.
They're like, what is no.
God.
Taco's OK with it, but like Nugget, I'll put the I'll put the eyes right up to it.
Nugget's like, he like backs away slowly.

(19:29):
gonna remove his heart.
But did it do what you wanted it do for taco?
I think a little bit, but probably not what I was expecting.
I was expecting them to give it like a giant hug.
But I mean, if it gives them any bit of comfort, then I'm happy with that.

(19:49):
I don't know.
Maybe it was more for me than thinking it would help them.
let me see.
they do look pretty.
They do look pretty.
All right, so I am going to talk about, because when we were riding home from brunch onSaturday, Krista and I were talking about, thank God that we don't have to date right now.

(20:16):
Like I can't, I just can't even imagine having to date.
Like getting ready and talking about yourself and going out and actually trying to meetpeople.
Yeah.
like all of that and trying to learn each other.
So it got me thinking.
So I've decided to do the dangers in dating.
So I'm gonna talk about four cases.

(20:39):
So the first one is the murder of Miranda Corsette, which actually just happened in St.
Pete in February.
So she was 16 years old, 16 years old, and she met Steven Grass, who was 35.
through a dating app.

(20:59):
She visited his home on February 14th and then she returned the next day and she was heldcaptive for several days.
The couple accused her, it was his couple, her name was Michelle Brandis, she's 37.
They were accusing her of stealing jewelry which led up to prolonged abuse.
Miranda was ultimately murdered between February 20th and 24th, had her body dismemberedand disposed in a dumpster.

(21:27):
So both of them have been charged with first degree murder, which is good.
house.
Did she know she was dating a couple or did she think it was just the man?
the partner, but she, I mean, she had to have, because she went back the next day, but Iguess that's all, who knows, who knows what, 16 years old, yeah, and met him through a
dating app.
The next one I have is Justy Stillwell in Bay City, Michigan.

(21:50):
This is a 41 year old janitor.
He met Robert Twitty on Grindr, the dating app, met him on September 14th, and boy, boy.
immediately went missing.
He was reported missing on September 18th and parts of his body were discovered in SaginawRiver and Tweedlely confessed to pushing Steele Will downstairs strangling him and

(22:17):
dismembering his body and he faces charges of open murder and mutilation of a corpse.
The third one I have is the shopping cart killer.
This is in Virginia.
The perpetrator was Anthony Eugene Robinson.
38 years old.
He was dubbed the shopping cart killer because he is accused of murdering at least fourwomen that he had met through dating apps, killed them and transported their bodies using

(22:44):
shopping carts.
Surveillance footage reportedly shows Robinson with the victims at hotels and later movinglarge objects in shopping carts.
He has been charged with multiple counts of first degree murder and is awaiting trial.
And the fourth one I have, this one is in Ireland.
And it's the murders of Aidan Moffat and Michael Snee.

(23:05):
these two met.
Youssef Palani, 23, used a dating app to target gay men living alone.
Excuse me.
And he murdered Moffat on April 11th and Snee on April 12th, inflicting severe injuriesand mutilating their bodies.
Pilani was arrested shortly after and pleaded guilty to both murders in addition toassault in October of 2023 and he was sentenced to life imprisonment.

(23:31):
So just doing more research and you know all these people are finding people on datingapps and you know dating apps are it's a business.
It's not it's not a research.
It's literally having people sign up.
So if you have a phone number you can sign up and you know people are not doing researchon these people.

(23:52):
So
sexual predators, whoever it may be.
So they gave some examples on how to start researching people.
So of course, Google, Google full name, Google like full name plus arrest, full name, lookon LinkedIn, look in full name plus city, full name plus job, use Google images, county

(24:14):
courts for sure, do Google images to do reverse.
search on any image to see if they come up.
Definitely use social media.
Look on Instagram, look on Facebook, and then look at their social media.
Are there long gaps in activity or weird vibes, like weird different things?
Are they tagged by other people?
If they're tagged by other people, then they could actually exist, yeah.

(24:39):
Look at LinkedIn for a verifying job.
Mm-hmm.
or if someone's saying they're a CEO of a company, look to verify if that's true.
Public records, there's free tools such as BinVerified, Spokeo, whitepages.com,Truthfinder.
Well, those are free.

(24:59):
Those are free apps and those show past addresses, criminal records, bankruptcies andmore.
You might have to pay a little bit more to get the detailed records, but at least you knowthere's something there.
with your life.
Yeah.
Like Krista you were saying search court records.
A lot of those are criminal and civil.
I know in Sarasota are public records.

(25:22):
You can look them up, even evictions or small claims.
Use reverse phone lookup.
So if you only have a phone number, put the phone number in, see what it pulls up.
They say ask specific questions.
Don't be afraid to ask for last name, where they work, anything.
And if they're not telling you, it's shady.
You know, or yeah, or if they come up with a weird name and you can't find it anywhere,it's shady.

(25:47):
And if they do lie to you right off the bat, don't go.
Just red flag, don't go.
They also said get the group chat involved.
So, you know women, they are researchers, right?
So, Danni, if you were going out on a date and you're like, let Krista and I know, youknow Krista and I are gonna be online, I would be researching the hell out of this person.

(26:09):
Being like, did you see this?
Did you see this?
But yeah, let people know, know, have a date check in.
So if you're meeting them, let them know where you're going.
I used to do that with all my girlfriends.
Get the last four of his social security number.
I don't care.
or maybe even turn on your, when you go, turn on your tracker so that people can find you,share your location.

(26:31):
Yeah, yeah.
now there's safety apps, apps like Noonlight, U R Safe, you letter are safe, or Circle ofSix, let you discreetly trigger emergency services or notify friends if something feels
off.
So definitely know that.
And then of course, the golden rules before meeting, meet in public always.

(26:56):
Drive yourself, do not let them pick you up.
No.
and then tell someone where you're going, who you're with, and when you'll be back.
And if your gut says no, don't go.
Don't go.
bad that you can't meet people organically anymore.
Well, it's like Krista, I were talking about that, you know, like, what are you going todo?
You're going to go sit at a bar.

(27:17):
You're going to maybe in the grocery store.
mean, Jamie and I were lucky.
We met at a a Steeler game, which was and we were with a group of people, which was great.
But, you know, before that, I went I went out on I was on the dating apps when I moveddown here and I went out and I went out with one guy who he lived in.
I think he was in Port Northport, Port Charlotte.
I don't remember it.
Port Charlotte, because I remember it was a drive and.

(27:41):
wasn't, or whatever you said at breakfast, geographic.
Yeah.
But I drove down to meet him.
We had been talking on the phone, like I actually heard his voice and I did research andfind out who he was.
And I drove down to meet him.
And I remember when we met at a what's your favorite place with the sausage gravy and allof that, the ham that Jay-Z cracker barrel.

(28:06):
We.
Well, because.
Yeah, because.
because all I remember is Jay-Z loves the ham.
Yes!
That's funny.
But I wanted to meet him there, right?
So he pulls in in a motorcycle and he gets out and the first thing he does is grabs me andkisses me.

(28:29):
And I'm like, okay, let's slow down.
And then he grabs my hand and holds my hand walking into the restaurant.
So of course I'm already a little weirded out, know, cause that's just a little too muchtoo soon.
Yeah.
And so we go in, we eat, and then he's like, well, why don't we just go down to the beach?
He goes, follow me back to my apartment.
And I'm like, ugh.

(28:49):
Follow me back to my apartment and we'll drop your car off or we'll drop the bike off andthen go in your car down to the beach.
And I'm like, all right.
So I called whoever I don't know who I called, let them know what I was doing.
And so we got to his house and he lived on like the second floor of a condo.
So I figured I'm kind of safe in a condo because I know I'm a screamer and I can I candefinitely scream.

(29:12):
So we go up and he he's he starts flossing his teeth right in front of me, which
gosh.
turned me off immediately.
And then he sits down on the couch and he gets real close and he's talking in my face.
he's trying to act all, meanwhile it's noon and he's trying to act all romantic.

(29:34):
And I start laughing because I'm like, you're just, you kind of look creepy right now.
And he's like, I'm not trying to be, and now he's mad because I called him creepy.
And so he leans in to kiss me and then all of a sudden he's like.
Yeah, and then all of a sudden he, wait, did he show me his, he walked me into his bedroomand there was, and I remember something in his closet, like I stayed foot in, foot out,

(29:56):
foot in, foot out.
I didn't go all the way in.
But it was like a total mess.
So he kissed me on the couch and he's like, hold on.
And he pulls a fricking gun out of the back, his back thing and puts it down on the coffeetable.
And I was like, okay, so everything's going through my mind, right?
And then he like started,

(30:17):
doing like the romantic thing again.
I again, I started laughing and he got mad that I called him creepy.
And I'm like, okay, this is this is my way out.
And I just I got up and I'm like, you know what, this just isn't gonna work.
I'm leaving.
No, no, no, please don't go.
Please don't go.
He's like begging me the whole way I'm walked down the steps I get in my car.
And I just start balling like I'm just crying hysterically.
Like, why does it have to be this hard?

(30:40):
You know?
that was a lot of effort for you.
was a lot of, was a long drive.
It was a long drive home.
I called my mom on the way home.
I'm like, this is so ridiculous.
Meanwhile, he called me for probably, I don't know, four or five weeks after, likeconstantly, just kept, and I would never answer.
And I stalked him one time on Facebook just cause I wanted to see and find out that hewas, yeah, and find out that he was, he met somebody and was getting married.

(31:06):
And I'm like, okay, great, great.
He wanted something for sure, but it was just,
It was, that was just in a two hour time frame.
That was a lot to unpack.
Yes, yes.
Yeah.
Yeah, cause like the older people were sitting on, you know how the older people sit onthe rocking chairs outside a Cracker Barrel?

(31:30):
They saw him like grab and kiss me and then holding hands and stuff.
And he's like, I just met her.
I just met her, but she's my new girlfriend.
I'm like, God, God.
once if you're in trouble.
Blink twice.
it was just, and that was my last, that was my last date.
And you know what, and I had been on dating sites, you're probably right, it's likesubliminal, I don't even realize it.

(31:58):
But that was like the last, because I had been on dating sites, but it had been like, youyou'd talk and then something would happen and it would just turn.
sour, you know, like, this person's just creepy or why didn't you call me today or whydidn't you?
I messaged you.
Why didn't you message back right away?
And so that was the first one that I actually went out on a date with that.

(32:18):
never again.
Never again.
Yeah.
Before Jay-Z and I dated, we met before that on a dive boat and then we connected like acouple years later maybe, maybe two or three years later.
Just on Facebook.
Yeah, he was my friend on Facebook for a while.

(32:39):
And then I became single and then we just started chatting and-
We met one night at like Evie's to watch Alabama and Tennessee play football.
And then we made a bet that if Alabama beat Tennessee that he would have to take me out ona fancy date.
So Alabama beat Tennessee.

(33:01):
So then we, we drove separately to the Westin.
That was our first date and ever since then.
Yeah.
I didn't really know him though.
I didn't know him.
We only hung out that one.
time at Evie's and then we went to the Westin.
No.
know.
mean, even if you think you know somebody, it's still scary.

(33:24):
I don't know.
I'm just glad I don't have to do it.
I was on dating sites and I would meet somebody out at the bar and get wasted and then goto the apartment and hang out and then I could, you know, I could have been murdered many
times.
But it's, it's, I know.
just.
everybody thinks they know and it just, you know, it just takes that one person.

(33:47):
Honestly, honestly.
I remember being.
why you worry about your kids, you know?
That's why you're like, guys, we gotta be careful.
I remember when I was in my 20s and my girlfriend and I would go to the local bar and playpool.
And I met this guy there.
He was an over the road truck driver.

(34:07):
And he parked his truck in the cinema's parking lot.
And after the bar closed, two o'clock in the morning, I go over to the parking lot intothe truck with this guy.
And he's going to teach me how to drive this truck.
Well, thankfully, we were in a small community and one of the Robinson cops came up.
And, cause he saw the truck like moving, not moving, not moving, moving, driving back andforth like slowly.

(34:33):
And so he comes over and he puts the spotlight on and I jump out of the car and he's like,what are you doing?
And I said, he's just teaching me how to drive a truck.
And I don't know if the cop stayed around and waited just to make sure everything wasokay.
But as far as I knew, he just drove away.
And I stayed and kept learning how to drive the truck and I drove a tractor trailer thatnight.

(34:57):
It was something pretty cool.
And got home at four o'clock in the morning, got ready for work and went to work.
my God.
happens to other people.
That would never happen to me.
But, you know, good.
I'm surprised I wasn't murdered in college.
Honest, I kid you not.
Like, there's some s-
were growing up-
to my Brian Coburger.

(35:19):
I mean, he could have been at the bar with those kids.
He probably knew how drunk they were or watched him drive home or walk home.
He was a normal looking guy.
you know, he didn't, they don't wear a sign that says I'm a murderer or a pedophile or I'mgonna rape and kill you.
but the difference between now and then is when we were growing up, we didn't have socialmedia to tell us all these crazy ass stories.

(35:43):
Right.
at, you know, what, linksters and come and I'm hammered.
I'm drunk and I'm at linksters.
That doesn't, yeah.
that are getting killed now by people, they, come on, you've heard all the stories.
There's so many resources out there to check people out.
Like just do your due diligence.
I'm assuming Dani met Mike on a dating app because she's not saying anything.

(36:05):
okay.
very good friend Christine, I've never been on a dating app ever in my life.
I wouldn't.
No, I just am not that person.
I would be so weirded out by, oh, hi, are you Jake or whatever?
just, oh.
easy.
it's just, it's at your fingertips how to meet somebody.
Yeah.

(36:25):
hundreds of thousands of success stories, but it just to me is like, that seems so forcedand so not who I am.
But I was at a concert with my friend Christine at one of the country clubs in Tucson andChristine's husband's name is Dave, was Dave.
Dave passed away in October or in, yeah, in October.

(36:48):
But.
We were at a concert together and Dave was riding his mountain bike.
Dave would ride mountain bikes and he rode mountain bike with Mike and Mike went to thatconcert kicking and screaming.
He didn't want to go because he's like, I'm dressed like, whatever.
And we just met each other and that was that.
Yeah.
No, he stalked me, but yeah, I made him work for it.

(37:12):
Not really.
I had just gotten divorced, so it wasn't, you know, it was a I need a
I need a minute.
So we, you know, we would sometimes go on a bike ride or do fun things like that, it was,took a while, yeah.
But then we were, yeah, yeah.
Now he's shut up in the room with the dog.

(37:35):
Don't you come out of there.
So.
is.
I didn't really have a BS.
I mean, I have so much BS story, so many of it going on in my head all week long, but I'malways like, does anybody really?
I'm going to sound like a Karen with half of these BS is that I come up with.

(37:59):
Well, the one I came up with now is how they're treating Elon.
I feel so badly for him.
Maybe he's evil.
Maybe he is.
Maybe I'm a bad judge of character, but I just look at his face and he doesn't.
It doesn't.
I don't get a little trigger in there that goes.
Right.
he's really gonna take over the world and kill everybody.
You know, this dude, if you, if I read a stat that said if somebody, if you got $500,000 aday today, all the way back to when Jesus walked, you still would not have the same amount

(38:32):
of money that Elon has now.
I guarantee you, Elon does not want my $18.64 in my checking account.
Like, he's not, he's...
doing it under the directive of the president, under the American people who said, we wantthis change.
And for people to go in and blow up dealerships, well, Elon only owns 18.2 % of Tesla.

(38:59):
The rest of it is the country.
People who have stocks, JP Moore, it's the Minnesota, Minnesota's teachers union and statepeople, they own a lot of stock.
So you're not hurting Elon.
No.
And, but I think it does hurt him.
I think it hurts him personally.
Like, you you can kind of just see when he's in some of these interviews where he's justso deflated.

(39:23):
Like I am trying to make, and you know, I mean, I don't know.
He's not being paid.
He's, and Trump has said over and over and over again that we're not gonna do, he's notgonna do anything where he oversteps his bounds.
He's not gonna do anything that's a conflict of interest.
He is not hurting the veterans.

(39:44):
Trump is never going to let that happen, and nor do I think he would, Elon would want to.
Why is Elon the most persecuted African American when everybody loves African Americans?
We all love African Americans, but the liberals are always like, white privilege, and youneed to be treating African American people kindly, except for him?
Is it because his skin is white?

(40:05):
Yeah.
he's, he's under Trump.
I mean, it's, I keep saying that if Trump, if Trump were to open a, a puppy rescue,everybody would hate puppies.
Like they, they just can't do anything.
that anybody will appreciate.
And listen, I was one of the first ones on one of mine and Jamie's first podcast where Icalled Elon diabolical.

(40:27):
Like I said, he is going to be the next Batman villain.
He wants to take over the world.
And then I will tell you when I saw that interview with him and Sean Hannity and Trump andI watched his face and I listened to him talk and I immediately withdrew what I said.
I apologize.
I'm like, Elon, if you're watching this, I'm sorry because I

(40:48):
Totally, I listened, I heard what everybody else was saying, I saw what everybody else wasshowing, and I made a judgment.
And shame on me, when you go and you look at what this man is contributing to charities,what he's done for just the country in general, he is not a bad person.
He's not a bad person, period.

(41:11):
don't think, and I think too when you have autism or Asperger's, I don't think you'recapable of thinking like that.
He's extremely intelligent and yeah, I don't, he's not, he's not a, and you know, he'strying to help people who can't walk to walk.
He's trying to help people who can't see to see.
I just, I feel very badly.

(41:31):
And the other side of that is there's this, like I keep seeing all these people that areposting bad,
Shit crazy people keeking Teslas like these are who do you think owns the liberal who ownsthe Teslas?
It's the liberals that followed the green new deal.
It's not conservatives I mean, I'm sure there are some and they're you know fine but mostthe people that are order Tesla's or have Tesla's are the people who listen to your

(41:58):
nonsense about the sky is falling and if you don't get a Tesla we're gonna die in fiveyears and there are no be gonna be no polar bears like
Those are the people who drive the Teslas.
So why are you keying them just because you hate Trump, hate Elon?
And you already bought the car, you jack wagon.

(42:19):
Like you already paid for the car.
If you want to get rid of it, go ahead.
And like Mark Kelly of Arizona sent her, I got to get rid of this Tesla.
I mean, he was really the, I can't stand him anyway.
He made his living off his.
wife getting shot in the head but that's another BS story but he he went and he got rid ofhis Tesla on live television and he bought a freaking Yukon the biggest gas guzzler you

(42:46):
can yeah so don't tell me yes
destroying.
good on gas.
I will say that.
They are really good.
They are not green energy.
And then I see this other crazy person that keyed this Rivet on, Rivian.
That's not even Tesla.

(43:07):
I'm just like, you don't even know what they are ugly.
They don't even know that's my BS story.
They don't even know what they're doing or what they're fighting for.
And they just say, that's the problem of the day.
Okay.
I got my key ready.
I got my fire bombs ready.
You tell me what to do.
Where's my professionally made sign, as Trump says?

(43:27):
That's why I said if chump opened up a rescue, they'd be out killing puppies.
That'd be the next thing.
it's just, it's, ugh.
But I will say, have you seen the new Tesla pickup truck?
It is cool looking.
And I, it's cool looking.
No.
don't.
But if I was rich, I'd probably buy one just because of what's going on.
a Tesla.

(43:47):
I don't want an electric vehicle, period, end of story.
But the pickup truck is pretty cool looking.
Yeah, you would like it, Krista.
It's beefy and yeah, it's pretty cool looking.
Interesting.
different.
All right, what's your BS, Krista?
the rant.
Woosa, do your woosa first.

(44:09):
Woosa.
I talked about this at brunch on Saturday, but HOAs.
Bullshit, bull shit.
hate our HOA.
Okay, let's, so Danni, you've never been in my house, but Jen, you know that the gate nextto my house doesn't open, right?

(44:31):
It does not open.
It's an emergency gate.
If there's a storm, we need a fire, we need to evacuate, then it opens.
if the ambulance needs...
The HOA.
no, the property management.
Excuse me, property management has control over it.
But that's not the problem.
The problem is the people that try and exit out of this gate, they drive up to it and itdoesn't open.

(44:56):
And then they sit there for a few minutes or a few seconds and then they...
their horn?
yeah.
turn and then their tires go into our yard and it destroys our yard because they're notgrownups enough to back up, to like reverse, because obviously you don't know, lot of
people don't know how to reverse in a straight line.
So anyways, so it's getting really out of hand because the other day somebody tried toexit the gate, then they tried to turn around but they were unsuccessful and they left

(45:28):
these huge tire marks in our yard.
Part of the gate has been blown down from Milton and it's still down and the metal fenceis laying on the ground.
But these people proceeded to drive over the fence that's on the...
You can see the fence, it's completely bent because they drove over it to exit.

(45:54):
and just tell them to just open it.
Just leave it open.
Just let it be open.
not the- I don't care about the gate being open because that prevents traffic because wehad it open after the- Well, and people zoom.
They like speed through there and people are always walking their dogs over here.
Kids are always riding their bikes.
That's fine keeping it close.
I just want a sign posted over here before you make the turn to go out the gate sayingthis is not an exit.

(46:21):
This is not an exit.
Well-
Okay, so this is why I hate HOAs and their bullshit.
I emailed our property management company and I said, first of all, hey, our landscapingcompany blows, literally, they blow shit on our cars.
Can you please tell them to not blow stuff on our cars, or don't blow off our driveway ifa car is parked in the driveway?

(46:44):
Fine, whatever.
And then I asked her, said, can we get a sign posted that says,
this is not an exit.
told her exactly where I lived and where the sign should go.
And she responded, well, we have a new landscaping company.
We will mention it to them.
And the board needs to pass having the approval for putting the sign up.
said, okay, that's fine.

(47:06):
Well, I go on the Facebook page.
We have a Facebook page and I posted on there and I said, I told him the situation of whatthat car did and what it's done to our yard.
I actually have pictures and I posted it.
and to get approval to have your post on the page, somebody from the board has to approvethe post.

(47:26):
Fine, okay.
So a couple people, like two or three other people from the neighborhood responded, butnobody from the board responded.
So I, with my smart ass, I go, anyone from the board is gonna respond to my post?
So then one bitch from this neighborhood who I cannot stand.

(47:47):
my God.
another story about her another day.
Copies and paste this other this one post that they had about reminder in big lettersreminder colon.
Capstone, the property management doesn't follow the Facebook page.

(48:09):
You need to contact them directly if you have a problem or issue or a question.
And I said, okay, well, I actually emailed them and asked them about this sign and theytold me to ask the board to approve this.
But thanks for the reminder.
And I gave her a thumbs up.
Has she responded?

(48:30):
look at that.
I don't know.
Get it.
It doesn't do the hearts.
On FaceTime you can do that and you can get hearts.
Yeah.
of the app, because she's on the app.
That's pretty cool.
But anyways, she hasn't responded.
Nobody's responded to my message about getting the sign.

(48:54):
And no, I do not go to the meetings because if I do, I will probably go fucking postal andblow everybody up there in the board.
I cannot physically sit there and not say anything because it will get really ugly and...
go to one meeting and say, I've gone or get assigned by a professional, anyone, get it putin the ground.

(49:17):
Who's going to take it down?
I can't, just, it's everyone in this neighborhood except for one family that we're friendswith, I absolutely love them.
Everybody else in this neighborhood can eat a bag of dicks.
Well, maybe it's time to move.

(49:38):
That's the plan, that's the hope, but we don't want an interest rate of 12 % and paytriple of our mortgage right now.
it's, it's, we're like, we're, we're stuck here for a little bit, but I, it's infuriatingto be in this neighborhood.
It's terrible when you have to live like that.
I hate that.

(49:59):
And if the people were impeding on their driveway or their grass or whatever, they wouldcertainly put up a sun.
absolutely, absolutely.
It doesn't affect them any.
Ugh, I hear you on that.
All right, so my BS is when you go, I got my hair done today and I love my hairdresser,but I absolutely hate the way that they style my hair.

(50:24):
I don't know why hairdressers nowadays wanna make everybody's hair straight.
I am not a straight hair person.
I look stupid and it's dumb and I hate it.
So today she tried to curl it and that didn't work out either.
So that's why I have a hat on and I'm just giving up from now on.
I'm gonna just tell her to cut it, color it and be done with it.

(50:44):
because it's just better that way.
it's cheaper too.
Yeah, she won't charge you for styling it.
My mom colored my hair this time, but she gave me some orange spots.
So I'm going to see her tomorrow and have her fix it.
$40 for me just to get my hair styled.
was your mother, Danni.

(51:06):
Wasn't it your mother?
Yeah, it was my mom and I'm gonna see her tomorrow.
She's going with me.
She's going to Massachusetts so she will be fixing my hair on her vacation.
Mm-hmm.
My mom's been doing hair for about 60 years.
I think she needs to start wearing glasses though.
She does a good job.
She did a really good job with the cut and everything but I got some orange spots thatshe's gonna have to check out.

(51:29):
She does.
your hair at brunch outside.
was like, Danni's hair looks really nice.
The color.
Free.
Yeah, and that's my motto.
Fits free, it's for me.
Yeah.
does?
I didn't know your mom lived here either.
She doesn't.
She just comes here like every four months.

(51:51):
So I just wait.
Hold it.
Yeah.
Colorado Springs.
All my family pretty much lives there except for my sister and my kids.
Right, nice.
yeah.
All right, well this was a good show.
And I guess we are going to skip next week, so we will be back in two weeks on Monday.

(52:15):
So good luck to Dani on her new job.
Thank you.
More details to follow.
or Krista and I will be by ourselves next week.
We'll figure that out.
It'd be a game time decision.
Yeah.
Alright girls, have a good week.
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