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May 27, 2025 32 mins

Phil talks about running backyard ultra-marathons, what it takes, what it means and how you do it.

My favourite quote of the episode is "It's kind of just something that I fell into, like started with short distances and, yeah, it just kind of snowballed and got bigger and bigger. And I think it's just it's something that I've discovered that I'm good at, and I think when you find that thing that you're good at you just need to embrace that and see how far you can go with it."

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