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July 16, 2025 56 mins

Music isn’t just a creative outlet—it’s a powerful tool for emotional regulation, mental health, and even brain development in children. Dr. Shreya Goyal shared how singing helps her stay grounded in a demanding career and why music is essential for processing emotion.

We covered the link between music and the brain, how creativity balances high-pressure professions, and why artistic expression can make people better caregivers, communicators, and leaders.

Shreya is also a student at VoxTape Studios, so we ended the session with a quick vocal coaching session focused on tongue tension and mix voice clarity.

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(00:20):
when you cracked you you didn't
it caught you off guard a little bit
but it didn't let you
you didn't let that throw you off completely right
so you kept going
which is so important because guess what
voice cracks happen right
they're so normal so natural
like you just gotta keep going with it
yeah right
and just lean into that top note a little bit more

(00:42):
to make sure we're not already past it
you know yeah
OK
um
hey Vox Star and welcome to from singer to artist

(01:04):
I'm Lara Chapman award winning singer and songwriter
turned viral vocal coach and the host of this show
at VoxTape Studios
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level up their voices
by teaching them the three fundamental skills
all singers need technique
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or just develop your voice for fun
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(01:26):
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Alrighty are you ready let's get started
we are back in New York City
this time with another wonderful student
here at Vox Tape Studios
working with Coach Juliana currently
welcome Shreya Goyal
thank you hello everybody hello
hello thank you so much for taking the time to be here
absolutely I know you just got back from Texas

(01:48):
visiting your family
that's where you're from originally right
yes that's correct
I grew up in Texas and just met my new niece
so very exciting congratulations
thank you everybody's having babies
I know hahaha um
thank you again for for coming here
you know after getting off a flight late last night
and then now being here today
you're a busy bee because guess what

(02:09):
you're a doctor oh my gosh
that's right yeah
thank you for having me um
this is a like
this is my first time doing anything like this
so very happy to be here yes
um but yes
I'm a I'm an internal medicine physician
I used to do primary care for a couple of years um
in Texas as well as in New York
and now I'm doing a obesity medicine
yeah
that is so crazy it's interesting to see to me how

(02:31):
like for me how uh
there's quite a few doctors that are like
working with us
or taking lessons or playing instruments
or they're in a band and I'm like
you're so busy how do you have time for this
but it seems like music is a good
a balance to like doctor stuff

(02:51):
yeah absolutely
I think that music
has always been such a great way for me to 1 relax
yeah and 2 um
you know I think in medicine
we at work just have to be so
kind of regimented and serious for a lot of the time
and I feel like music
has always given me a way to just have a
creative outlet and express myself emotionally

(03:13):
which is something that's always connected me to it
I love that you mentioned that
you know even early on in your career too
you've always been very interested in how music affects
the human and
you know like mental health wise and otherwise as well
so can you tell us a little bit more about that
I think this is very interesting
especially coming from a a physician

(03:35):
somebody who understands the human body
cause Lord knows I don't
absolutely yeah
so I mean
we know that
music has the ability to reduce cortisol hormone
which is a stress hormone in the body
so it can really help with stress reduction
anxiety reduction and then it can also just help um
and this is more in children and

(03:55):
and kind of infants um
it can help with different um
areas of development in the brain
and cognitive abilities and
and so if if kids are learning to
listening to music early on in their lives
it can actually help with neurocognitive development
which is really fascinating
wow yeah
is that why a lot of parents wanna send their kids to
like some sort of instrument lessons

(04:17):
yes yes
absolutely because building that skill will help
kind of hone a different part of their brain
that may not be if they're not doing that
that part of the brain may not necessarily really
flourish or develop okay yeah
oh good thing
my parents sent me to music class when I was young
I think
I started piano lessons when I was in third grade
so I don't know how old are you in third grade

(04:38):
like nine eight or nine
something like that yeah
yeah that's great
is that a good time to start
yeah absolutely
I think the earlier the better
like even even for like infants
they can you know
just having music on in the background um
it's been shown that that can really
help develop different parts of their brain so wow
so sing to your babies is what you're saying
absolutely so your
your sibling who just had a baby

(05:00):
yes I just sang her first lullabies to her
when I was back in Texas so it's great
oh my god I love that
yeah my
my brother had a kid too oh my gosh
he's gonna be 5 now and they're expecting a second now
wow congratulations for them
and I um
I recorded myself
singing a bunch of lullabies in different languages
oh that's amazing

(05:20):
some in English some in German
even some French ones and I'm like wow
why am I doing this I don't speak French anymore
but whatever and uh
and they really loved it and then I sent the
the same tracks to my sister in law
my husband's sister
who then had a child later on as well
and to you know
her parents uh

(05:40):
so my in laws too and they're like
the only thing that makes Levi calm down
is when he listens to your lullabies
yeah nothing else will do the trick
that's amazing how that works
yeah absolutely
yeah there were times that my niece would be crying
and then we would I would
you know sing like rock a bye baby
something as simple as that
and she would kind of calm down so wow

(06:02):
yeah I love that
and the other thing is um
when so like in medical school and residency
um we actually had the opportunity
we started a very small band
a few of us
and we had the opportunity to sing to patients as well
and so at the um
at one of the hospitals we trained at
um we got to just
patients were able to come out of their rooms
and just kind of all gather

(06:22):
build that sense of community and um
listen to us perform and I think they really enjoyed it
I think um
you know it was around the time of Covid
there's a lot of isolation
this is like
not during the strict time where we all needed to
you know quarantine
but um
I think people just really
enjoyed having that sense of community
it also was very nostalgic for them to um
hear songs that they you know

(06:43):
listen to back in their day
um and then yeah
so I think that was a really neat experience as well
yeah actually um
we just had a new student sign up for lessons with us
Michelle she is a physician too
okay in um
like a nursing home style environment
uh where she has a lot of alzheimer's patients
yeah and so I think she said once a month she

(07:06):
you know brings in her guitar
and she sings songs from the 60s and 70s
cause amazing you know
that's that those are the kinds of songs that the
these patients know right right
they don't know Beyonce yeah
you know
and so yeah she was she
she sings and then you know they
they have instruments
like a little tambourine or a little shaker
where they can you know
participate

(07:26):
and she says that they're really enjoying it
or at least they make it seem like they
are really enjoying it so yeah
it's not just for little kids
apparently it's also for the older generation too
and I guess anyone in between as well
music therapy is something that uh uh
like when you go to a music school like even Berkeley

(07:47):
like that's something you can study there
even though it's like not like a
you know a doctorate or anything like that
but music therapy is something that people can study
do you have any uh experience in that field too
you know it's something I don't have much experience in
but it's something I've always found very fascinating
so would be happy to learn more about it in the future

(08:08):
yeah just the different sounds and how that like
affects the brain and all that
I know nothing about it absolutely nothing
but I find it fascinating
I mean you said that
you know you can see like there are studies where
you know if you
if you expose your your kid to music early on right
there's different stuff that happen
you know better yeah
yeah absolutely

(08:28):
and even just for like language development
like you were mentioning earlier
um you know
kids can really
become more acquainted to different cultures
and languages just through music um
playing different you know
like I played some Indian music for my niece
and things like that so um
I think music is just so um
it's so versatile and can really help people learn um
but then also feel connected

(08:49):
and build a sense of community as well
yeah so sense of community
yeah 100%
100% I love that
so tell me a little bit more about how music
is playing a role in your own personal life now
yeah absolutely
um so I think
I think especially during Covid
um you know
that was a stressful time in training
that's when I did my residency
um there was a lot of just
you know as everyone's aware

(09:10):
social isolation and things like that
and so um
we had a couple of virtual parties
um like holiday parties
graduations and things like that
and so um
I was able to sing um
you know just perform for our colleagues
and I felt like that really helped build community
and then also just kind of kept me sane
and felt like I was able to

(09:30):
you know do something that I'm passionate about
and express myself creatively as well
while going through this um
you know more stressful time in
in my career um
and then now you know
I've moved to New York City recently
so I actually lived here for summer after residency
and I did my first open mic at night in Queens
at a very small coffee shop
and I it kind of got my feet wet

(09:52):
and so um
then I moved back to Texas
and did a few open mic nights there
but I think New York is just such a cool place to
get your feet wet into music
so I'm hoping to have more opportunities here to
to get into that um
I'm currently recording um
I've started like a TikTok and on my personal Instagram
starting to wait
hold on I missed all of that hahaha
I need to go check it out
hahaha

(10:13):
that's so cool yeah absolutely
so um
ever since I joined this studio
I think it's just helped me gain a lot of confidence
in my own abilities
that's something that I really didn't
even though I was like in choir and
and what not but you're singing in a group
so I wanted to really hone my own personal
skills and singing and feel confident
about performing in front of other people
and recording so

(10:33):
I feel like just being a part of the studio is
really helped with that
and so it's given me the confidence to be able to
at least if I'm
if I'm if I'm not performing
at least go and record things and um
just learn kind of like
even the nuances of how to record and
and etcetera etcetera
so yeah that's so great
so you said you you did choirs
uh growing up as well

(10:55):
how did you initially get started with music
did you also get started at a very young age
yeah it was a little later
yeah so I actually
I was born in India so my
I was born in Delhi and so my whole family
we have a big family there
would always play music for me
different Indian songs and apparently I would um
sing along and dance at the age of like 2 or 3

(11:15):
so I think that's probably the first introduction I had
and then when we moved to the States
um you know we
we moved to Texas and I joined a youth choir
I think I was about maybe 7 or 8 at that time
and then I was a part of that for a couple years
and then um
in school I was in choir for
in middle school high school
um as well
and so did like acapella choir

(11:35):
in high school um
and then I did it for a little bit in college
and then I think um
things got a little bit more stressful
as I started med school yes
of course um
hahaha understandably hahaha
and then but a few of us did start a band
which was yeah um
which was really nice and then
everybody
kind of dispersed to different cities for residency
um and then covid happened
so I felt like during training

(11:56):
I didn't
maybe have as much time as I wanted to delve into
with music and singing um
and then I realized during the pandemic
probably when I was trying to do more things on my own
with recording that I really missed it
I really missed the just being able to um
you know express myself in that way
and I think it like I said

(12:18):
it kept me sane during the pandemic
to be honest and so I really missed it
and I wanted to dedicate enough time to it
and so now that I feel like I'm done with training
and I have a more stable schedule without like
24 hour calls and night shifts and what not
I do wanna dedicate a lot more time to
to this passion so yeah
I think that's wonderful
did you ever have any one on one coaching at all

(12:39):
for instruments or for singing
before you started working
I think I took like a piano for a semester in college
OK haha
um that was probably the only time I did
like any one on one type of OK coaching
yeah what made you initially want to do lessons
like voice lessons yeah
so I think I think probably building my own um

(13:02):
confidence and just being able to perform um
because I know I I
I know I have a skill
but I feel like people would always
friends and family would ask me hey
can you sing um
and I would always get very nervous and shy
and so just kind of building that confidence
and then um
I think people a lot of my friends have gotten
married in the last couple years so um
a lot of them would ask me to sing at their weddings

(13:24):
and it was something that
I absolutely was honored to do
and love to do but I felt like I just had like
a huge amount of stage fright and things like that
and so I wanted to be able to gain the confidence
um I also yeah
just want to get out there and perform
as well as record more
and so I wanted some more insight on like
how to do that um yeah
so that kind of motivated me to join yeah

(13:45):
what would you say is besides
like gaining the confidence to share your voice
is there like
do you have like career aspirations as a musician
or you are you happy being a physician
cause I feel like a lot of times people are like
well it's just a hobby
like I don't need to invest all this time and
you know financial that side too into like a hobby
but what's what's your goal with music

(14:07):
yeah that's a really good question I
I definitely want to pursue this
um as a
I mean I'm very
don't get me wrong I love medicine and
and I'm very happy I'm doing that
um
but I do think that this is something I want to pursue
as a part time career as well
in the in the sense of recording
um sharing my uh
music with others hopefully being able to write

(14:28):
cause right now I do mainly acoustic covers but um
hopefully developing the skills with you guys
um yeah
on how to write music um
so that's a goal of mine
and then being able to perform with a large groups
yeah well Juliana
coach Juliana on our team
she's the perfect person for this
because she's a songwriter herself as well
and um she
she teaches songwriting too

(14:50):
and yeah that way you can
it's a it's a
it's a different way of expressing yourself
I I do believe that you can
still express yourself in a really great way
even just just quote unquote
just through a cover right
um but when you're writing the song yourself
it's like oh
hold on like now that that's my words right

(15:10):
and my melodies yeah
so I'm excited for you to get um
get more into that as well and see
you know what stories do you wanna tell and oh
I'm excited for that you
you're gonna have to share songs with me so I can
I can have a listen absolutely
and so you've been doing some open mics now
you've been sharing your songs um
or like your singing clips on social media too

(15:33):
what do you feel like is your next step now
I think I've been doing more recording these days
on social media
I think I would like to go out there and sing live more
so that's probably my upcoming goal for the year OK
um so yeah
lots of opportunities in the city
yes right
absolutely haha
lots of music happening here

(15:53):
lots of open mic nights and um
you know when we
cause you mentioned like
you'd like to do it like somehow like part time um
does that include like performing too
yes alright okay
yeah yeah
so you know
like breaking into paid gigs
yeah usually
the best way to do that is
going through open mic nights first

(16:13):
because that's where you meet all the people
and that's where you also meet people that are doing
booking for certain places too
so it's a little bit easier to to get in that way
so I'm excited for you to thank you
branch out thank you
thank you yeah
and then I also recently bought a guitar in the fall
so hoping to I know Juliana also teaches that so um

(16:36):
hoping to like also learn that as well
yeah yeah
so you can oh my gosh
I remember like uh
when I was doing the whole performing thing
many years ago pre covid and uh
I am more of a piano player than a guitarist
but schlepping around the stupid piano is a whole lot
yeah more annoying than just bringing your guitar

(16:57):
it's a lot easier so good choice
yeah thank you
I just gotta make sure my nails are short
yes yeah
yes nails are short
and you gotta build up your calluses
on your fingertips a little bit
cause otherwise like
it starts hurting after a couple minutes of playing
right yeah
that that was me
I was like no
every time I played it hurt again
cause there was like too much time between my sessions
like ugh

(17:17):
whatever now I haven't touched a guitar in years
I need to get back into it
yeah I know the list is endless
right of things that we wanna do
just gotta prioritize yes
and so you've been working with Juliana for
can I say like somewhere between six and nine months
I believe yeah
about nine months or so nine months

(17:38):
okay under a year
yeah yeah
and uh
what would you say has been like
the number one thing that you worked on
that has felt helpful to you
oh that's hard to pick
I feel like there's been so many good things um
I think you know
there's a lot of things that she's um
taught me I think the biggest thing is

(17:58):
this is gonna sound kind of silly
but um like she just kind of taught me that
cause sometimes I have a tendency to tell myself oh
that note's too high I can't do it and she'll
she'll kind of tell me she'll reassure
she'll provide reassurance and say no
I know you can hit that note
you just have to tell yourself you can hit it
you know yes
so I think that that's been actually really helpful

(18:19):
yeah to just have somebody else tell you that um
so that's been really that's been really neat
and then um
overall just working on you know form um
making sure that I am keeping my tongue low um
and then keeping my jaw open and really um
the other thing she she mentioned was um
you know just how to be expressive

(18:40):
um with singing and that can really help
I mean I noticed a huge difference in myself
like the sound just is so much better when I um
I'm really expressing like with my face um
you know
more being more expressive instead of like a poker face
yes yes
well expression
that goes back to the whole reason why you're

(19:00):
why you kind of like
got into this in the first place to like
Express Yourself right
now it's like okay
well how do we translate that into what we see too
right cause yeah
sure music is something that we hear
but if we look at the performance aspect of it
it's also very very visual
yes
I was just at the Beyonce concert last night here in

(19:22):
over in Jersey and um
it's a very visual experience too right
like with all the screens and the videos obviously
like that's not what you do if if you're
you know just getting started yeah
it's not what you like can't compare to Beyonce right
but all the dancers and the
the fire on stage and the costumes

(19:42):
and there's just like so much that goes into it
it's a show exactly
but you can do the same thing in a bar
or in a restaurant too
you just don't have all of these other aids
it's just on you now to translate that right
like what you're feeling and what you want to express
uh like visually like on your face and your body

(20:04):
your everything right
how you move on stage all of that
and I'm glad that you guys are getting into that
because just because you feel something
and it sounds like emotional or whatever yeah
doesn't necessarily mean we can see that on your face
too right right right right
she's
she's taught me a lot about just performance skills
like how to kind of look on the outside
and honestly I think that's made a big difference in

(20:25):
in the way that I sound as well
so yeah yeah
usually what I like to do is make sure first
that there's no like
tension in your body first
like you know
like facial tension yeah
sometimes like with high notes
like people are like yeah
like you know
make crazy faces and what not
and it looks great yeah
and I love that but or
and we just need to make sure that

(20:48):
you're doing it because of the visual
not because you have to to get the note out right right
that's important
we wanna express ourselves with our face
yeah I love that awesome
um I would love to do a little singing with you
that's cool with you yeah
yes ironically
I picked a Beyonce song so yes

(21:09):
I know and we didn't even know
so that is a very much a coincidence
um we
you picked a a slow acoustic karaoke track
yes and so it's a little bit of a different version
I'm super excited to get into it
let me pull it up okay
uh you feel ready
yeah Alrighty
let's do it let's just dig right in and see
see what we got okay
okay first verse and chorus alright

(22:45):
OK yeah
and then that's it do you wanna do the halos
uh I don't have to OK
OK we'll
we'll we'll dig into the halos later sorry
I didn't really warm up so my voice cracked
no you're
you're good and
you know that's uh
that's totally normal right
that's kind of like when we warm up
we do so so that the
the vocal folds know how to stretch and vibrate off any

(23:07):
phlegm or anything like that
so we're less likely to crack
so you know
this is this is totally fine
I thought you did a wonderful job
besides the crack how did it how did it feel
I think it felt good I
I could probably get into a little bit more like
emotionally yeah
yeah um
I'm trying to be mindful of that
of making sure that I'm being performative

(23:28):
yeah but otherwise
I think it was good
I've been trying to incorporate a little bit of like
um more acoustic and
like yodeling and not do as much of like belting
yes um okay
so I'm trying to make sure I'm doing that
but it's also coming off like strong or powerful
fair fair
fair fair
OK yes totally

(23:48):
have you been working on this song with Juliana
or is this a new one no
new one yeah
new one OK yay
I loved the beginning like
you know like you were really like expressing yourself
like even visually right
not just with through your voice
but also visually so that was super successful
and um
the beginning was was wonderful

(24:09):
and then when you got into the chorus
I
still thought it was really great when you cracked you
you didn't it caught you off guard a little bit
but it didn't let you
you didn't let that throw you off completely right
so you kept going
which is so important because guess what
voice cracks happen right
so normal

(24:30):
so natural like you just gotta keep going with it right
and just yeah uh
continue with the rest of the song um
I tongue tension
is that something you and Juliana worked on a little
too um yes
trying to keep it low keep the tongue low
keep the tongue low okay
um
in the course everywhere I'm looking now

(24:51):
now right there that's
that's where you cracked a little bit um
do you know who Shakira is
yes so we have a little bit that everywhere I'm looking
I can I
a little bit of that Shakira undertone
and that's just a little bit of a grabby tongue
so can we for the chorus let's
let's work on the chorus first here real quick um

(25:12):
can you just stick out your tongue
great can you make the your tongue a little bit flatter
just relax into it

(25:33):
actually let's bite on it cause your
your tongue is fighting a little bit
so we're gonna just bite on it
hmm
okay great
do that one more time
hmm
great how's that feeling
um it feels like there's less tension
less tension okay

(25:54):
um it sounds a little smoother
going up into the higher notes
can we just do it on a slide hmm
mmm hmm very nice
do you feel any twitching in your tongue
no good
now when I was biting it good
good good
let's do one more time to get used to it

(26:14):
hmm
can you slide a little more
hmm there it is yeah
did you feel or hear the difference
when you were doing the slide
versus when you were kind of

(26:35):
hmm jumping up to the note
I think so yeah
uh in the song you're jumping right everywhere
I'm like looking now not now
you're not sliding up to it
but I like to do slides uh
when we're like when we're working on the
on the break in the voice right
yeah it's just like okay
can we smoothly go up there

(26:56):
okay um
and that can it makes it harder
it makes it a lot harder than just everywhere
I'm looking now no
so if you can do no
you can do the no yeah
the slide at the the
the jump that's easier than the slide okay
right okay
so we're making it harder
yeah so that it then doesn't feel as hard
yeah
okay very cool
um now let's open the mouth again

(27:16):
but still keep the tongue out
so it's the same as when you're biting on it
but not just with an open mouth okay
hmm huh
hmm huh hahaha

(27:39):
great your tongue is pushing
down slightly when you're sliding up yeah
think forward with your tongue like out of your mouth
okay
stick it out even more
huh

(28:00):
ah yes okay
that creates a very open tone
do you hear that yeah
I do yeah
how does it feel it feels
it feels smooth here
but like I don't know how I'm gonna perform with the
I guess I have to train my tongue to stay down yeah
pretty much pretty much like it
this is obviously you can't like start singing

(28:20):
like
you're sticking out your tongue while you're singing um
a lot of singers actually do that when they're belting
and like
sustaining a note on a belt
they not like all the way out
but they kind of push their tongue forward a little bit
just to make sure it's not getting too grabby
in the back OK
OK so yes
this is gonna take a little bit of time uh
you can also do tongue stretches
which I don't have a paper towel here with me

(28:42):
but you would just grab your tongue with a paper towel
and just pull it out and sideways as well
to just kind of stretch it out and have it relax
at the root of the tongue okay
cause that's the part that gets grabby
the part that's that we don't really see
cause your tongue is a lot longer
than the part that you see in your mouth
you know that

(29:03):
so yeah it's the part back here that gets grabby OK
if we stretch it out that helps
and so you can either you know
use that paper towel and stretch it out
or just do this and just actively like
push the tongue out as you're singing OK
let's try that one more time

(29:24):
oh uh huh
uh huh uh huh
one more time oh
it's crazy
your tongue starts shaking when you're doing this
do you feel that yeah
I do you do
I do wow OK
you're a very feely person
I love that uh
so yeah this is gonna be great for you
just getting that tongue out of the way OK
now let's try everywhere I'm looking at

(29:47):
and stick out the tongue on now
so you're basically just singing nah
not now okay
everywhere I'm looking now
okay yes
everywhere I'm looking can you just speak that
everywhere I'm looking great OK
let's make that really lazy
everywhere I'm looking
everywhere I'm looking everywhere

(30:10):
everywhere you're kind of going wet
like you're really working hard on where OK
everywhere everywhere aha
everywhere I'm looking everywhere I'm looking great
I'm just trying to make the movements
as minimal as possible so that the tongue doesn't yeah
go crazy again yeah everywhere

(30:40):
there it is yes
do you hear feel a difference there
yeah okay
it feels easier to get the note out
yes yeah
cause you don't have all of this war
war stuff happening in your
mouth to try and get the note out yeah
let's make it let's make it easy right
everywhere I'm looking now
and actually stick out your tongue on now
everywhere I'm looking now

(31:04):
ah yeah
yeah yeah
let's try that again yeah
everywhere everywhere I'm looking ah
yes okay
now let's without the pushing of the tongue
just how you would normally sing it in a lazy way
though okay
everywhere
oh good
that's much smoother so everywhere I'm everywhere

(31:25):
everywhere I'm looking
everywhere I'm looking everywhere
everywhere I'm looking now yeah
she's super like the it's the wear
it's the word wear
where you're moving more than you have to okay
everywhere I'm looking now one more time
everywhere I'm looking now great

(31:48):
how was that it was good yeah
it was better great
great great
now the word looking you had a really harsh k on that
everywhere I'm looking I was like
hold on that's a very harsh k oops
and that's just gonna make it harder again yeah
right everywhere I'm looking

(32:13):
oh that's nice and smooth
how's that feeling it feels much better great
how do you like the tone of that
um I think I like it
I like it I
I think for this um
for this acoustic acoustic version
thank you I couldn't think of the word
even though it says it right there um
the acoustic for the acoustic version
this is gonna work really well

(32:34):
yeah uh
when you were just singing it
it was slightly mixier and a little less heady okay
so my question for you is
I like this if you wanna keep it this way
I'm totally cool with that
would you like to try and make it a little more mixy
or do we wanna keep it heady um

(32:54):
we could try to make it mixy
try okay yeah
so hey hey
um can you
let's go let's go overboard first
can you go just hey
hey great
without going hey
like wide and back with your whole mouth
just hey hey

(33:17):
there it is nice
how did that feel good okay
basically what you're doing is just a lot less okay
right instead of going hey
which can sometimes create a little bit of tension
it's just hey
hey great
and your tongue is not super grabby on that
which is great so everywhere

(33:38):
everywhere
that is great that is great
how did that feel I'm good
love it now let's try everywhere I'm
yes now just on looking looking

(34:01):
OK yes
exactly again
we're just trying to make it lazy right
I want to make sure that we can use the facial muscles
for expression not forgetting the notes
yeah right
fair everywhere

(34:21):
everywhere I'm looking now yeah
just think forward right
instead of like I'm going up to the note
think I'm going forward to reach the note
every
whoo whoo
how was that good it sounds great yeah
it sounds really great and this is um mixer right

(34:43):
it's not like everywhere I'm looking now it's not that
but yeah
it please don't do that with an acoustic version right
hahaha um but this is definitely stronger than every
right cause then you're you keep going up right
and so if we have that everywhere I'm looking now

(35:05):
the more mixy place
then for the next race I'm surrounded by face
then we can lighten it a little bit
so we have some sort of contrast okay
otherwise the entire chorus is gonna sound the same hmm
okay yeah
that makes sense yeah yeah
so cool
let me just double check that we're in the correct key
okay everywhere I'm looking now everywhere

(35:28):
I think we were even a little high
maybe we might have been this is the negative one
yes oh
OK OK
I think yes it is OK um
so let's try that one more time everywhere

(35:52):
oh that was a beautiful
beautiful
beautiful little riff and bass that was awesome
I love that I'm surrounded by ya ya that top note there
do you wanna do that
I think so I guess I don't have to no
I love it I think you should
I don't totally think you should
you were from what it sounded like to me as

(36:13):
as the listener was
it sounded like you were going up to the note
but it didn't quite come out like
it almost just kind of like cut out
yeah right
so let's do that with the tongue thing again
great so like it's well within your range

(36:33):
yeah right
so I'm surrounded by y'all
can you sustain the note
I'm
great now don't get afraid of the
I'm surrounded by y'all
lazy in the face I'm surrounded
great you need to sustain that top note

(36:53):
just a little bit longer so we can lock it in
so the voice knows what that note feels like I'm
do you hear when you're doing it in context
that top note is kind of like

(37:14):
it's kind of yeah
it's kind of there but not really right
um why is that the case
it could be many different reasons uh
I think it's like cause it's higher
maybe it's my I'm getting
I don't know I mean
you just did it like when we were sustaining it yeah
I think you're like
mentally already moving on to the brace

(37:36):
that it's like so short that top note that it's like
oh no
it's not quite coming out right
yeah I'm surrounded by ombre
so I really like
lean into that top note a little bit more to make sure
we're not already past it
you know yeah okay
um

(37:58):
yeah I think I was maybe moving to embrace too fast
yes yeah
but the riff on embrace is stunning
thank you beautiful
how is this feeling it feels good
I feel more comfortable with
with the higher great part
of it yeah
great sounded by your race baby
I can see your Halo now
we're going back down a little bit um

(38:19):
that's the easier part
so can we try that with the music
the chorus one more time with the music
see what happens

(38:49):
baby
OK yeah
yeah yeah sorry
I just wanted to see
see the high note cause the other part is easy for you
right yeah
all over your face it was totally there on that one
yeah cause
I I truly just think it's a sentimental thing
and an emphasis thing right
spin all over over
you're starting the note there versus uh

(39:12):
yeah yeah
that's different right
you're splitting the word on uh
over two notes yeah
so that second note is not quite as important
as when you're going over your face
face all over your face I'm like yeah
are those words yes
so it's an emphasis thing
like just knowing that top note is coming
and I can't move on too quickly okay right

(39:33):
yeah I think that's really it
besides that how did it feel
I think it felt much more comfortable good
yeah it sounds beautiful
it sounds very smooth uh
but not weak you know
and so and it
and it sounds less scrappy in your tongue too
I do still think there's still like some tongue tension
and we could you know
like with continuous stretching it out

(39:54):
and working on releasing it
it's gonna get easier and easier and easier okay
but we're definitely on the right track here
and with with things like
you know releasing tongue tension
that's not like do it for three minutes and yay
now you're good this is something that
you know takes a little bit of time
right and practice for sure
very cool can we do that again
yeah yeah

(40:14):
let's do the whole thing right

(41:34):
oh my God wow
that was stunning how did it feel
thank you it felt good
yeah it felt good
I think my voice cracked maybe once
but yeah oh
I didn't even hear it OK
no that was
that was fantabulous
I love all the little uh
riffs that you're doing

(41:54):
stunning don't change it
I love the little melody changes that you're doing
you're like it's
it's slight right
like you're not changing too much about it
yeah but you are giving it your own a little bit
um I thought that was really great
thank you I loved it
thank you for your input oh my gosh
of course of course
made it easier good good good

(42:15):
I'm glad did you have uh
for this part of the song
at least this first verse and pre chorus
and chorus oh
one more thing uh
the pre chorus love how you were building that a lot
um and then the chorus was a little bit less again
yeah like I thought that was really beautiful
I like that a lot oh okay
so I should do that yeah okay

(42:36):
yeah that was great
that was great um
did you have something in this first part of the song
where you're like I'm not quite sure about this um
I don't think so
I guess that I was gonna ask about the chorus
so I was just gonna do
instead of doing like four lines of Halo Halo yeah
I was just gonna do like two lines and do like um

(42:59):
I guess maybe I can sing it
I don't know yeah
let's try okay

(43:23):
oh
yeah that definitely works
um I think that's great the Halo
can you connect the low note and the high note Halo
oh great
um so visually what's happening is like a hey LA oh

(43:44):
right like a little oh
a little body engagement for that yeah
flow it just hey LA
hey there you go
now try less on the top note
pretend like it's easy
like less volume or just trying less
oh OK
physically trying less OK

(44:04):
yeah
hey
oh yeah yeah yeah
hey I believe in yourself
you got it hey love
oh
yeah I know I didn't connect it again
do you hear it yeah
there you go yeah
that's great it's
it's just a matter of flow
like using your breath for that flow okay

(44:26):
try one more time
hello
I can see you physically engage
a lot to get to that top note yeah
you don't have
to work that hard physically to get to that top note
cause it's not that high OK
so pretend like
that second high note is just

(44:48):
right next door to the note that you just sang before
okay
oh yeah yeah
that was a little less oh oh
like right for that top note
hey love
oh um
actually can you try that
a Halo who add an H before that top note

(45:09):
hello
okay how was that
um
I thought it was
I thought it was easier to get the note out with the H
okay great
can you do one more time
hello
yeah I don't know if I did enough for the H there
but well
that's it at that point
it just comes down to style

(45:30):
like do you want to have an audible H or not
uh hello
oh or or more like hello
right so it just kind of depends on
do you wanna hear it or not
hmm I think either works well yeah
it's really your artistic choice okay

(45:52):
hello
yes even on that hey LA
hey LA it's so much easier than you think it is haha
alright hello
yeah yeah
do you feel difference hear difference
is it about the same it's okay if they
if they all feel the same to you

(46:13):
it sound it sounds more um relaxed
yeah now yeah
yeah yeah
a little more acoustic version compared to yeah
I'm Beyonce singing yes exactly
exactly so yeah
that was great um
your question was where to do the halos right
like yeah
which ones you should do yeah um
I think what you did worked really well okay

(46:35):
um
just
just as a
show you a different version
let me show you real quick yeah

(47:04):
wow so you can do that or like
it literally doesn't matter what you do
you can do anything

(47:32):
or that like okay
literally like pick whichever ones
whichever halos you wanna do yeah
you can also change it
depending on where in the song you are okay
that's the cool thing about
but I would say especially with the acoustic version
don't sing like all of them
like I can see your Halo
yeah Halo I see your Halo

(47:57):
that's a lot yeah yeah
just pick a couple that you wanna do
and however it comes out I think it's totally great
what you did works perfectly fine
I loved it
I just wanted to show you like two other options
yeah yeah
without even thinking about it
I was just like
I'm gonna pick this one and then I'm gonna do that one
and I hope that's different from what I did before
but I don't really know right
so yeah you can really be super open with it

(48:18):
do you wanna try one more time
just yeah
kind of see how what it comes out
what comes out this time yeah
oh sorry
a prayer Wolf

(48:47):
yeah I think I just did
I think I did the same thing
yes you did
yes you did
but I like it like again
I I
I wanted to show you the other options
not to be like the these options are better
yeah not at all
they're just different right right
just to show you like it doesn't matter
yeah haha yeah
whatever your heart is drawn to do that
and that will work perfectly fine

(49:07):
okay so
the gap where I'm not singing is not too long
or awkward I don't think so
OK no
I don't think so OK
if it feels awkward to you
change it OK
you can always add another Halo
like you can add a Halo in a way where
it's different from what she does too
yeah if you're like hmm
I feel like this is too long of a gap

(49:28):
I think I did that in the second version that I did
doing a Halo that's different from what she has done
or at least how I remember it
I was like this is kind of different
but it works yeah
so yeah just this is where the artistry comes in right
just like play around with it
I I would recommend putting it on loop
like those halos yeah

(49:48):
putting that on loop
and then just try out different things
and at first make yourself explore different ones
so that you're not immediately
getting stuck in the same version
alright right yeah
uh and then eventually
you know
don't put like any
like requirements on yourself anymore
and just like alright
now I'm just gonna do and you'll pretty quickly

(50:10):
I think feel how you're drawn to one thing
and you keep repeating it the same way
right and then that's probably the
you know the option that
that feels best to you but when you're doing this
when you're doing this exploration and this looping
essentially uh
record yourself OK
so that you know
it's like I hate it
especially you're
you're gonna learn this when you're writing too

(50:32):
always record your ideas
because there's no worse feeling than like
oh my God that was amazing
but you keep going because you're like
I wanna explore more now
and then you can't remember what you did before
so if you have a recording
you can always listen back
okay and be like
okay this is what I did
I wanna do this again yeah right
that was awesome any other questions
any other parts

(50:52):
in this first section that you'd like to look at
I don't think so I think you sound great
thank you I love it
I really do and
you know
it's just the tone of your voice that you're using
yes even though it's an acoustic version
still play around with it like dynamics wise
right like
adding a little bit more volume
and then pulling back a little bit again

(51:13):
uh in that pre chorus
like I said before
you were building really nicely and that made it
because of that
it made it totally okay to pull back a little bit again
in the chorus okay
right cause if it's too
like I can see your Halo yeah
through the entire song I'm like
can we get a little something else
yeah you know

(51:34):
but whatever whatever feels right to you
I think is is beautiful
have you it was like okay
like acoustic like it was like
I've got some try not to be too belty like she's doing
so did it sound okay if I no
no no
I yeah
I thought you totally nailed that okay
yes yes
100% have you listened to uh
somebody else do an acoustic version of this song
yeah I was actually listening to a couple of people um

(51:56):
sing it great
I love that for inspiration
yeah right
like
it doesn't necessarily mean that you're gonna copy it
exactly how they did it right
but it can be a nice little inspiration for like
oh yeah
and oh I see what they did there and oh
I like this and I um
I don't love that I'm gonna do this differently right
and it's interesting how
how people can do it so differently with yes
like different the same song

(52:17):
but different acoustic versions completely yeah
so yeah that's the beauty of making a song your own
making a cover your own yeah
I love that any other questions
I don't think so I think you answered them all great
you sound awesome thank you
this is beautiful
I would totally let you perform this live somewhere
at an open mic or wherever
wherever you can perform right

(52:37):
cause you sound you sound really great
and yeah just remember the tongue thing
I think that's big for you
just getting the tongue out of the way
doing some stretches in the morning
or as a part of your warm up before you start singing
and making sure that you're not physically
with your body working harder than you have to
to get those notes out okay

(52:58):
right cause like
I just see your body physically engaging a little bit
yeah for some of these higher notes
it's really not needed when you're singing it this way
right OK
if you were to belt this entire course
that's a different conversation right
but in this way
I just don't want you to work harder than you have to
OK right yeah
very cool thank you so much Shreya

(53:19):
yeah thank you for having me
of course of course
thank you for sharing your beautiful voice with us
and your beautiful cover
and your expertise as a doctor as well
I think we can all know if you have kids at home
expose your kids to music and make them sing
no yeah
don't make them sing but
and do you have any just like last
like words that you want to give to the audience

(53:42):
everybody who's listening
like any advice from like a doctor perspective
or from a singer perspective
like anything that you wanna get off your chest
yeah I mean
I think um
this has been great
I'm really happy I joined with Box Tape Studios
I feel like um
yeah I think like I've Learned so many good skills
and I think it's important to

(54:02):
if you have any passion out there in life
you should just try to dedicate some time
and even if it's just like 10 minutes a day
it can still like that's what
that's how I started out initially
and then I joined this
and now it's like a dedicated hour each week
but um
just dedicating something
some time to your passion
I think it's important yeah
outside of work outside of work
yes for that balance right
right for balance I

(54:23):
I don't do music for balance because music is my job
yeah so I do gardening
so I grow my own vegetables
that's my balance especially during the summer
in the winter
it's a little difficult cause there's snow outside
hahaha um
a last question for you
if you don't mind before I forget um
I always like to ask our guests

(54:43):
because this podcast is called from singer to artist
what to you
is the difference between a singer and an artist
is there a difference I think so
I think kind of like what we were talking about earlier
a singer can be doing singing as a hobby potentially
but artist is like they're doing it as a career and um
performing
I guess maybe the difference is somewhat subtle

(55:05):
but I do think there is a difference
like I think um
an artist is someone that's doing it as a career
um like maybe there's some monetary value
but singing it could be like
um like an open mic night or singing for your friends
or singing in the shower so yeah
I think that's to me
that's the difference there
but okay yeah
what do you consider yourself then
that's a good question um

(55:26):
I think I'm somewhere in the middle
Wanna be artist okay
great trying to um
yeah I'm definitely inspired to be an artist
and I want to try to keep on pursuing that passion
but I'd probably say I'm somewhere in the middle
right now okay
totally fair you're on the right track right
you're doing all the right things to
to get to that artist um

(55:50):
based on your definition to that artist level
cause we all define it differently right
and that's why I like to ask this question
cause everybody has a different definition for it right
and so yeah you
you taking all the right steps
you're doing all the right things to
to get there
and I think it's much closer than you might even think
it is awesome
just keep putting yourself out there
and you're doing it thank you
I love it appreciate it

(56:10):
of course anytime
thanks for you know
trusting us with your voice
thank you Coach Juliana yes
for you know
working with you and helping you with your voice
and um yeah
we'll
we'll have to do this again next time I'm in New York
OK absolutely yeah
I love it thank you so much for coming on
thank you Laura
thank oh
hold on before I almost forgot where cause you
you post your social media clips

(56:31):
oh my gosh where can we find that
yeah on TikTok
um it's at DJ Dot Shrey
so s H R E y I love it
I'm gonna link to that for sure
so that everybody who's wants to check out your clips
can go follow along and
and hear your beautiful voice
thank you anytime
alright thank you everybody for tuning in
we'll catch you in the next episode bye bye
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