I’ve spent the last two months talking with innovators who’ve done wild things—from surviving homelessness to becoming a world-renowned hope researcher, to convincing a sitting President to get roasted on a comedy show to save a landmark policy.
This week, I’ve pulled the most powerful strategies from our recent episodes into one mixtape. The common thread? The most effective ways to create change often defy logic.
This episode is a toolkit for moments when the usual path doesn’t work, covering:
✅ The Science of Hope: Why setting “moonshot” goals improves performance & how to train your brain for bigger risks.
✅ Behavioral Science: How to motivate anyone using identity & social proof, not logic.
✅ The Power of Awe: Using “lowercase awe” to reduce daily stress and rewire your brain.
✅ Strategic Humor: A look inside the White House’s plan to use comedy to achieve a high-stakes goal.
Plus: one quick how-to from Nathaniel’s episode—a two-part behavioral science playbook to move anyone, including yourself.
Putting these together, I realized it’s a sort of toolkit for moments when the usual path doesn’t work. Because when logic fails, human nature often leaves a side window cracked open.
Here's to breaking through,
— Molly
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🕒 Timestamps
01:03 - Introduction to the science of hope
1:53 - Dr. Chan Hellman: the Science of Hope
13:19 - Nathaniel Stinnett: the silent climate majority
31:33 - Dr. Kim Nolan: the power of awe
41:24 - Brad Jenkins: The White House’s move to use humor to save policy
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