April 10, 2025 • 30 mins
Christopher Landon and Straw Hat Goofy talk his new movie Drop, horror/comedy, and dating.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Wake up? Did you time to go to work? All right?
Can we talk about we go back get it and
get it? Yeah? Wake up? I get it that get
it that goal with everyone's staying that mom next, it's
not my father, the vocals of goals that making that
hit us so well that my leg is a movie
the way that that role they stand it with people. Baby,
you know, I'm making everybody upset because we.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We get brea and I know, gunna get bread, Gunning
get bread, gonna get bread, Cunning get bread, sink gunning
get bread.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What's going on? Guys? It's your boys show goofy. You're
a movie guy, and I'm sitting here with the director
of draw, Christopher Landon. How are we doing? My man?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I'm I'm happy to be back with you now.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm happy to be back with you, and obviously at
a more like pricier place. Thank you for taking me
out on the state right here.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
That's a nice date, right.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah. You know, I really feel like I really feel
like I'm taking care of so as long as you
pay the bill, Okay, you know what, it's it's a
give or take. You choose the place I pay the bill.
It's all good. Uh, so, obviously I saw the movie
last night. How a lot of fun with it. It's
so much fun, And like, I'm a really big fan
of a lot of your movies because you have this
unique way of blending comedy and horror together. And I
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remember Jordan Peele once said that horror and comedy are
essentially the same thing. It has the same ebbs and
flows that rises, the tension building, and then there's the
climax of every scene, whether it's a joke or a scare.
But you seem to have mastered that. Like, can you
talk to me about the anatomy of creating a scene
and making people laugh while at the same time like
scaring them.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
You know, it's funny, Like I think that it's very
case specific, right, you know, So there's a huge difference
between like A Freaky and a Happy Death Day and
how I use humor in those movies versus a movie
like Drop. And I'll speak more to the Drop version
of it, which is, you know, Drop is a sort
of classic suspense thriller, and it sort of asks the
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audience to kind of maintain a certain level of anxiety
and stress throughout the movie because we're really with this
character who's going through a lot, but for me, it's
kind of an unsustainable place to be, you know, and
so I feel like I like to punctuate the anxiety
with some humor because it sort of acts like a
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release valve, you know, so that you can kind of
bring the audience a little bit down and then you
bring them back up again. And so it starts to
create what I hope is a ride, you know, because
otherwise it could just get I think, a little one note.
And so that's how comedy is used in this movie.
It's not like, I mean, obviously there's a little bit
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of humor in the beginning of the movie because we're
dealing with the first date and sort of the nerves
and the things that go into something like that. But
once the plot really kicks in, you know, it's not
like Violet or Henry are being.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Specifically funny, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
But there's a character designed to sort of break that,
you know once in a while, and it's really fun,
you know, and he's always coming in at the worst possibility,
be wildly inappropriate, because that is as a waiter we've
all had absolutely right, Yeah, And so there's a relatability
to it. And I mean I remember I was on
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I was having lunch with a girlfriend of mine and
she had just gotten dumped and she was crying and
we had this waiter that was just so different and
I was likely has tears ready to.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And I was like, all right, read the room.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And but that's how I use humor, I think effectively
it is. I do weaponize it, yes, you know, whereas
you know in the other movies. Yeah, I just think that,
like you know, when you were saying what Jordan said,
which is very true, like there's a certain there's.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
An architecture to a joke and a scare that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Are very very similar because it is all about sort
of like how you set it up and how you
pay it off. And and I love to blend those things,
you know, And it's funny how it's it's you know,
I think it used to be more rare for audiences
to kind of dig that kind of stuff, and I
think that like we've all become a little bit more
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open to it, which I love. And but yeah, I
mean I just think that there's there's strange bedfellows, but
they like work really well together.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah. What I find interesting about like the horror comedy genre.
Even if you could call it that, it's kind of
like two things put together, right, is that it's it's
true to how human nature is, how people are. Some
people break the tension with jokes, right, and it's like
a way of like coping. So in a way, like
you do have these people on this like high tension
like you know scene, but at the same time, like
you want to make a joke to kind of like
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make yourself feel better, and it makes you feel better
that the characters are doing that as well. And then
but they're still in this horrible situation. It's almost like
a like a slight really like you said, relief, yeah,
and then when it kicks back up again, it's like,
oh god, here we go. And like you said, it's
a roller coaster ride. You know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It's just like I said, I think it's they belong together.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's like peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
In my book, I like that, And so everything I
make as humor, you know, even when going all the
way back to like the paranormal movies, like those movies
were funny.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, there's lot of.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Humor in those movies. And that's intentional. It's also a.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Great way to endear the audience to your characters, because
if they make people laugh, they like that Pererson, someone.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Who makes you laugh is hard, Like that's how it's
hard to see them.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
If we have dinner and you make me laugh, I'm
leaving that dinner saying that guy's read, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And so it's the same thing for characters.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I mean, that's how you made me felt. With the
waiter who kept coming in saying all these things. I
kept going, like, he's really funny. I hope he does it.
When a comic relief is going, you're like, dang, it's hopeless,
Like you know that it always stucks when that happens now, obviously,
Like you know, I find just you very very fascinating because,
like you said, you like to inject humor to into
your movies, and you're a big fan of Whour. You're
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a big fan of Wes Craven as well. But I
want to know, like, what was that movie that kind
of like changed your brain chemistry. It's a question I
like to ask a lot of my guess.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
God, because there's you know, there's a few.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It's not like there was one movie there was one
movie that that altered the course of my life in
terms of like it was the moment that I was like,
I have to figure out how that can be my
job and I got I remember exactly how old I was.
I feel like I was like eleven or twelve, because
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I loved movies prior to this. Right of course, it
wasn't like I ever.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Viewed it as like, oh, and that's a career path.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
The same here, you know, happens like that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And I saw James Cameron's Aliens opening night and my sister,
my older sister, took me, and I remember the moment
when Ripley comes out in the in the loader and
she's you know, says her classical line, and the audience.
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I had never seen an audience irrupt like that, like
people leaping out of their seats like they went fucking.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Crazy, and it just struck me like a thunderbolt.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And I was like, that's magic, Like I want to
miss what you I want to make people do that somehow.
And so that was a big one for me. I
would say, but yeah, I mean I think you know.
And then I started making like weird movies after that.
Weird weird those are great, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I think that's probably the best example.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Okay, oh yeah, See for me, my examples would be
something like you know, Spider Man two weirdly enough did
that for me, where like it was like, you know,
I was see that was two thousand and two, so
I was only ten years old, and well that was
twenty four so I was twelve, And so you watch
that and you think, like, oh, twelve year olds just
going to go see superheroes. But then like it was
the first time where I saw that a movie could
be more than a movie.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's like the superheroes teaching me about responsibility and doing
what you need to do versus doing what you want
to do. And like, I feel like these movies like
it uses these mundane things or these things that we
take for granted and it says something deeper about it. Yeah,
And I feel like a lot of your movies do that,
and I feel like Drop is doing that when it
takes like the culture of like dating, the first date
and like this like oh, the person on their phone
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is like the most insufferable date ever. Yeah, you know,
and I like how you did that where like she's
in this dire situation, but like I kept thinking from
the other side, Wow, her date, I'm surprised he's still here.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
There's a joke that like there's an there's like another
movie where you tell the story from his point of
view completely, and it's almost.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Like a bad comedy.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Oh, because he's just like, what is this girl doing?
And she seems so cool? Right, We've been talking for
two months, and she was like.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Really, choke, I really want you to make this movie now. Yeah,
I think you can do that. You know, it could
be great. People want to every Obviously, everyone's like hanging
on a thread to like hear about Happy Deaf Day three.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But I think, well, everybody's kind of living in their
own movie in a weird way. Like I have a
bad tendency to experience things in life and I see
them as a movie. I had a funny enough I
had a girlfriend who she was also a brilliant writer,
creative person, and she was she like had a crush
on this guy who worked in a denim store, Okay,
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and so she's telling me these stories about how like
she was like going to his work and like hiding
behind the car, like peeking.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
At him and all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
And she told it in such an entertaining, quirky way
that I was like, this is such a fun rom com,
you know. But then I was like I had to
tell her. I'm like, but it is mine, but in
a fucking horror movie and you're a stucker, like you
can't do that stuff, you know. But like it's just
funny how everybody's kind of in their own movie, right right.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And and I feel like with this one, like again,
please if you ever get the inspiration to tell it
from that side, please do it. But when it comes
to like this movie, I know there's like kind of
like a lot of like research and refreshing involved and
kind of like like what are those cultural moments within
the day, like being on the phone the whole time,
someone who gets up to go to the bathroom. What
is the research like on this? Is that something that
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you have to go and study or did?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I don't think it's a research thing. I think it's
a life thing. Yeah, you know, well I'm kind of
ask like what was about you too? You pull from
your own grab bag of experiences, and I think the
other writers as well, Chris and Joe, we're pulling from
their you know, experiences too, because everyone can relate to
being nervous going into date.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Everyone can relate to being on a bad date, you know.
So I think that.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It was there's no shortage of ideas and stories there.
But I think in this case, you know, everything was
in the service of plot, you know, because it is
such a tightly wound machine, you know, so there isn't a.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Lot of room for like other stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Everything was very much motivated by, you know, violet situation
and how she's sort of trying to outmaneuver this person
that she can't see.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But I think a lot of like the characters.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
That we surround them with are people that we've all
crossed paths with, you know what I mean, Like we
all know, like I said, the annoying sort of chatty
overshare waiter. We all know the like cool bartender that
just seems to like be your immediate therapist, you know,
Like we all have those people.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
In our in our worlds, and so I.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Think it was just about drawing from that experience and
placing them into the movie.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I love that. And speaking of worlds, like you literally
created a world within this restaurant, because for the most part,
this is almost like a single setting movie, almost like
a model episode of a TV show. But I think
a lot of people will be shocked to find out
that you built this restaurant. A lot of like some
people think you just went out find a really nice one,
but this was like built from the ground up. Absolutely,
(11:23):
Can you talk to me about doing this because one
I want to go there.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
They destroyed it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, okay, you know what one of my super rich
friends to recreate.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Bung Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
We yeah, I mean, look, one of the things that
I was most excited about when I when I took
this project on was I knew I had to build
a restaurant, and so that was thrilling to me. The
idea of just getting to sort of conceptualize and imagine
what this place could look like and how it would
function sort of from a.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Story point of view.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And you know, our production designer, Susie Clin, she's a genius.
She she did the impossible because again, like this isn't
some big budget movie, but it looks like one really
and that's really you know, very much indebted to her
and the rest of her team, and also our DP
Mark Spicer and his team because they also lit it
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and made it look beautiful. And you know, it was
really it was astounding because it was a fully operational
restaurant that we actually had to build about twenty fee
twenty five feet off the ground because you know, we
have all these stunts that happened later, and so we
needed to build the set.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So that we could do that stuff as well.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And you know, we had a real chef who created
a real menu. I mean you would sit at a
table and open a menu and that was our actual menu,
and then he made that actual food.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
And so that food was you know, in various forms.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
We had model food that was made to look identical
to the real food so that.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
The whole restaurant didn't reek at all times.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
And you know, so like a lot of tables that
were in the background if you couldn't really see people eating,
we didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Need to have the real food out.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
But like Brandon, you know, is eating real food off
the menu.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So it was really cool.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Like if you went behind the bar like it was,
I mean, there was no real alcohol.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But the bars really disappointed me.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
But it was fully stocked, you know, and a lot
of fresh things like fresh herbs and mint and all
this stuff. It was just it was such an immersive set.
And I remember when we I purposely didn't let the
actors see the set wow, because we had started shooting
a while before. We actually were moving to this set,
and so they wanted to go, and I was like no, no, no,
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no no, And we waited until it was fully dressed
and all the extras were in, and then we brought
them in for the first time. And I remember, especially
Megan's face like she just was in shock because it
was like, oh my god, I'm in a restaurant. Yeah,
And what that did for their performance, you know, because
it's so sometimes you can really feel the seams of
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a set, you know what I mean, and they just
feel fake. But like, so much of our lighting was practical, Okay,
so it's not like you had giant movie lights all
over the place too. Everything was really subtle and so
it became way more immersive, I think than the average set.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Okay, talk to me about the lighting, because I felt
like your lighting techniques in this movie was so well
done and like to hear like a lot of that
was practical, but there was scenes where characters would kind
of like be looking at other characters and then it
will kind of zero win. Although with that one spotlight Yeah,
like tell me about the lighting technique of that.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting. That's where I felt like
we got to really lean into a more kind of
stage theatricality. Yeah, because what we're doing there is really
putting the audience inside.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
A Violet's head.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's a very subjective kind of way to tell the story.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
But you know, it was a way to kind of,
like I said, make the audience feel what she's feeling.
You know, so when she's sort of trying to look
around the room and sort of figure out like who
are these who are the sus you know, we were
able to kind of spotlight certain people, you know, when
she's sort of feeling at her absolute lowest, you know,
where it feels like the Alla is lost kind of
moment in the film, you know, we visually drop her
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into like an abyss. Yes, and so there were a
lot of things that you know, we created to just
sort of keep the audience engaged on a very personal
level with her and also to break up you know,
the potential pitfall of making a movie in a single
location that really does revolve around people sitting at tables,
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you know, like it's not the most exciting thing in
the world visually, and so my job and the big
challenge of the movie, and again this goes for the
DP as well, it was like, how do we make
this visually exciting, right, you know, and so that was
something that we worked very hard to do.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, I think, I think when it comes to like
you said, when it comes to single setting, it can
be very easy to just kind of like be stagnant
and just kind of like rely like not everything could
be kind of like if you're going to be my
dinner with Andre and have two people talking, you got
to make that conversation really exciting, right. But when it
comes to like this movie, the conversation is not only
kind of like riveting because it kind of progresses the
story along, but you're also kind of like using lighting effects,
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the texting, the technology to kind of like like you said,
I heard you in an interview say, like the restaurant
itself is a.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Character, absolutely right. The restaurant is a character, The text
is a character.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
You know, all these different elements all kind of come
together and they do help us create I think a
movie that moves at a really brisk pace, you know,
for something that is set in a single location.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Like right, So with this movie makes the use of
drops right, and the movie at the very like most
especially when it starts off like it uses memes, and
I want to know, like what was the curation process,
Like what did you have a meme guy on set?
Like did you like pick some of.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Your technician on set that helped us remotely deal with
all the phones, which was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
So everything was preloaded on the phones.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yes, so the actors could react to all the things
that they were seeing initially in the movie on phones
because then eventually we abandoned. But the memes were most
of the memes were were picked by the writers and
they had placed them in the script. So you were
reading and she got one.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
It was there.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It was like the hot although he's.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
In the trailer, he's not in the movie.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Oh my god, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yes, it's just one of those things where like I
think the one in the movie is a little bit
harder to read, and we show it more than once
in the film, and so for trailer purposes, like they
needed to like just hit it one time, so they
swapped it. But it was a it was a pretty
like artist process in terms of, like we had to
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clear all of those memes and I and I they
weren't just they weren't. Yeah, it was, and they weren't
just placeholders, like I knew. I argued that we needed
to get the real ones because that's what helps ground
the movie if the audience is like, oh, I know
that one, I've gotten that one, I've sent that one,
and so it was important to get them. It just
was like a lot of the people who were in
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them now like have agents and stuff. You know, like
one person one of the memes we were told their
agent told is like, oh, yeah, they're not doing that anymore. Yeah,
Like it was such a weird like wait a minute,
and no, we're offering to pay you for a thing
that's out.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
In the world.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
So it took a lot of time and effort to
clear them, but we got it in the nick of
time because I wanted them there when we started shooting.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
So yeah, that was an interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's it's so funny you say that because I worked
in advertising, so like I know what it's like to
like get the things cleared of, things that people are
kind of known for, and the whole time, I was
like thinking to myself, Gosh, I really hope they used
that like old school, like like winning Baby be where
the baby has sand.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And he's like, there's so many good ones, and I.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Was like, oh, they probably can't get him because he's
probably like we.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Had more in the script, you know, like the the
they're in one of the versions of the script. We
had the you know the little girl who's standing in
front of the Bernie house, Yes, she was in there, but.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Then we got rid of that one. So yeah, I
was it was funny.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, well I need to tell it because like my
favorite meme in the movie is the one where it's
like the car veering off and it's like, oh, a
pretty nice date, best best exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
That was my person They're fun, They're really like That's
what's great is that, you know, it's a manifestation of
the horror comedy thing, right it is, But it's also moreover,
what I think is great about it, and this also
kind of threads over to the to the actual text themselves,
is that you.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Get a sense of a personality so that whoever's.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Doing this to her is perversely enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Right, Yes, they're taking the time to make these memes.
I thought about it.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
There's there's an enjoyment factor to it, and and that's
what I think makes them so unsettling and creepy, you know,
as supposed to just like do this, do that? You know,
it's like this person is really messing with her.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, it's it's the fact that a psychopath will take
the time to say which meme am I gonna send
and then just sit there craft and send it, watch
your reaction and then totally just I'm like, first off,
the talent to send that many memes and as a
quick response, this person is.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like they are on their game.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I got a bank of memes and they're all ready
to go. I already know about the same. Now I
want to try something because I feel like we still
have some time, and I just I need to ask
two things. Okay, do you have your phone on you?
Would you like to play a game?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
All right, so we got ten minutes, let's go. Okay,
So what I'm gonna do is just like your villain
who already has a bank of memes already set up,
I have a bank of like thriller comedies, horror comedies
already ready to go. I'm gonna air drop you one
and you give me the most terrible one sentence description
of this movie.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I need to give you a terrible description of a
bad one.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Like okay, yeah, and then we'll reveal the movie like
right after, because our audience is going to try and guess.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
It sounds fun. Yeah, this is this is hope. I
know all the movies.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, you ready? All right, I got one for you
except accepting.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Okay, girl about to marry the wrong guy.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's a good girl about to marry the wrong guy. Yeah, there,
it is all right. But the reveal was ready or
not starring Tomorrow Weaving. I mean that is a very
apt description, for sure. I'm just concise. There's a lot
more that goes on in the movie, but I think
that's that's it. Are you ready? And I think this
is very fitting given like where we're at right now.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
So I love cheeseburgers so good, the most delicious cheeseburger ever.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Honestly, a good cheeseburger can change your life. Don't give
me a state, don't give me all that, Just give
me like a nice your in and out left.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
A movie is so hungry in my life.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
The movie is the menu. See I like that.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I don't feel like I'm playing this right, but I'm
still in.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I think I I like I like your like quick witted,
just like out of the Dome responses. Okay, this is
one of my favorite ones of all time. Favorite movies
of all time.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Okay, I know this one that would be embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Oh oh god, there's lots of can I swear?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I mean like, I don't know, like.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Meta mind fuck ha ha.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I will use that as a tag line for every movie,
for every time I've described this movie to everyone. Meta
mind fuck haha. That is Cabin in the Woods. I
honestly think that is the best way to describe that movie.
Fuck haha. All right, here's oh underrated one, very underrated,
very underappreciated when it when it first released.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, I call this fuck you for sleeping
on it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
That is Jennifer's body. Yes, you're heard for Christoper landed himself.
You for sleeping on Jennifer's body. Oh my favorite. I'm
gonnapoil this one before you even see it. Favorite zombie
movie of all time. Okay, all right, it's clearly not mine.
(23:41):
Oh yes, I like that response. I like that response.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You know, wacky's any Brits dealing with dead people.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I feel like everyone's gonna get it just off of
that description, and that's what makes it a good one.
Can you get it?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
We already got some head and I was like, yep,
shot of the dead, shot of the dead, and that
is amazing. All right, we got two more more.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Okay, I want this to go in forever.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Okay, I actually got quite a few more. We got times,
good time, you know what. You know, we just talked
about him. We just talked about him. Okay, all right,
hold on, did send here we go? All right?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Oh gosh, oh god, this is another hard one. Uh
a really dark, bizarre way to use hands across America.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It's us. No one was gonna get that. No one
was gonna get that at all. I was gonna say,
when your an evil twin decides they're the one, I
guess something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, that's good too.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I think I think this will be a fun I
think this will be a fun one.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I'm really happy that you have time to watch all
these movies while making a lot of movies yourself.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Oh see, Like I just want to like.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Like, don't like stay away from gen Z.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You know what I thought of that when I watched
the movie, I said, gen Z be tripping gen Z.
Crazy bodies, Bodies, Bodies. We got a nod mind the camera, yep, yep,
all right, two more now, we really got two more left?
All right? This one classic. It's my one of my
daughter's favorite movies. Actually, I feel bad for showing it
(25:46):
to her, but what can you do. I just my
kids watch this really, ok I love it. Seven Yeah,
like there it is.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
They're golden. Okay, Oh gosh, like cute little things that
you know, normally you want to cuddle, but they would
probably kill you anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, Grimlins, Grimlins. All right, last one. I think you're
really gonna like this one. Scent dropped.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Oh god, sometimes birthdays are just overrated.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well I hate Soon as I hit thirty, I said
the same thing. Yeah, happy death day everybody, or as
it's known in France, happy birth dead, happy birthdad birth dead.
I like that of it. Okay, that we love the translation.
All right, thank you so much for playing. Dropped the game.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That was a really fun game, right, I just do
that with like friends, that would be fun.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Let's do that we created a new game that's pretty good,
pas Bro. All right, we get back to my questions.
I believe we have like three minutes left because we
had a lot of fun here, all right, So stepping
outside had dropped just really really quickly. Like we talked
about like some of your favorite movies. We talked about
like what got you into kind of like the genre
and everything. And I just want to say, like, I
(27:23):
was really bummed to hear that you're not directing Scream
seven anymore, because you're a big fan of Wes Craven.
I want to know, like, did you ever have any
correspondence with Wes Craven? Did you guys have a relationship.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You know, we didn't have a relationship.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
But I have a funny story when I first met him,
I saw him at a restaurant and I was probably
I was very young. I was like, I don't know,
twenty nineteen and the first Scream had already come.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Out, which I hear you had hand in getting me.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I had a little bit of a moment there, And
so I saw him at a restaurant and I knew
he had come into our office a couple of times,
but I.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Didn't get to see him.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
But so I see him at a restaurant and I'm like,
I'm one of those people, like I don't like to
bother celebrities, you know what I mean, Like I'm not
going to be you know. And but I was like,
I was so compelled to go up to him, and
I was like, oh my god, I have to say it.
But I was also a nervous wreck and also I'm
one of those people that when I'm nervous, my hands
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swept profusely, like it's disgusting. And so I walked up
to his table and I was like one of those
people is like shaking. I'm like, oh, mister Craven, I
liked me so much, and I just wanted to come
over and say and he was so nice because he's
like oh, and he reached out and he and I
didn't know.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
What to do, and I just shook his hand.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And as I shook his hand, I saw his face
change like and then he pulled his hand away and
very discreetly wiped it in his fence.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And I was like, oh, I grossed my scrave it
out awful.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
So I was mortified, mortified, And that's my That's when
I met West.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh my god, that's so awesome. Yeah, And like, like
last thing I want to say is like the fact
that because I heard from you that, you know, you
were one of the first people ever to read the
screenscript I was that one was called Scared Movie and
you're the one who told everyone to buy it.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
So I was an intern at the company, the production
company Woods Entertainment that made the original movie. They knew
I was a horror freak. I was the only one
in the office who was obsessed with horror movies. Yeah,
and this it was a spec script that came in
and I read the first like fifteen pages, and I
ran into.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
My boss's office and I said buy it. And they
were like what I was like, And it was like
a hot russ bro you.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
So, like a lot of companies were already getting into it,
and I think sort of the combination of like hearing
that other companies were starting to take it in to
try and buy it, and then the nerdy in turn
was like already freaking out over it, so they like
kind of started the process of buying it before they
finished reading it. And then it was so cool because
like that's how I met Kevin Williamson because he would
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come into our office and he for some reason at
the time, didn't have a car, and so I drove
him home a few times to his apartment in West Hollywood,
and you know, I was like so in awe of
like being in a car with a Hollywood screenwriter, you know.
But then you know we actually stayed friends, you know,
or you've known each other for that long.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Incredible. Man, that's a great story. Thank you so much
for talking to me. Man, Thank you so much for
this date.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
This was really fun.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
This is great. I think I think we'll go on
date number two.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I really we didn't get that classic gets you know what,
Come on, we hold the stem.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I don't drink, So there you go. That's that's what
we need take care of.
Wake up? Did you time to go to work? All right?
Can we talk about we go back get it and
get it? Yeah? Wake up? I get it that get
it that goal with everyone's staying that mom next, it's
not my father, the vocals of goals that making that
hit us so well that my leg is a movie
the way that that role they stand it with people. Baby,
you know, I'm making everybody upset because we.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
We get brea and I know, gunna get bread, Gunning
get bread, gonna get bread, Cunning get bread, sink gunning
get bread.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
What's going on? Guys? It's your boys show goofy. You're
a movie guy, and I'm sitting here with the director
of draw, Christopher Landon. How are we doing? My man?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
I'm I'm happy to be back with you now.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I'm happy to be back with you, and obviously at
a more like pricier place. Thank you for taking me
out on the state right here.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
That's a nice date, right.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Yeah. You know, I really feel like I really feel
like I'm taking care of so as long as you
pay the bill, Okay, you know what, it's it's a
give or take. You choose the place I pay the bill.
It's all good. Uh, so, obviously I saw the movie
last night. How a lot of fun with it. It's
so much fun, And like, I'm a really big fan
of a lot of your movies because you have this
unique way of blending comedy and horror together. And I
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remember Jordan Peele once said that horror and comedy are
essentially the same thing. It has the same ebbs and
flows that rises, the tension building, and then there's the
climax of every scene, whether it's a joke or a scare.
But you seem to have mastered that. Like, can you
talk to me about the anatomy of creating a scene
and making people laugh while at the same time like
scaring them.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
You know, it's funny, Like I think that it's very
case specific, right, you know, So there's a huge difference
between like A Freaky and a Happy Death Day and
how I use humor in those movies versus a movie
like Drop. And I'll speak more to the Drop version
of it, which is, you know, Drop is a sort
of classic suspense thriller, and it sort of asks the
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audience to kind of maintain a certain level of anxiety
and stress throughout the movie because we're really with this
character who's going through a lot, but for me, it's
kind of an unsustainable place to be, you know, and
so I feel like I like to punctuate the anxiety
with some humor because it sort of acts like a
(02:13):
release valve, you know, so that you can kind of
bring the audience a little bit down and then you
bring them back up again. And so it starts to
create what I hope is a ride, you know, because
otherwise it could just get I think, a little one note.
And so that's how comedy is used in this movie.
It's not like, I mean, obviously there's a little bit
(02:33):
of humor in the beginning of the movie because we're
dealing with the first date and sort of the nerves
and the things that go into something like that. But
once the plot really kicks in, you know, it's not
like Violet or Henry are being.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Specifically funny, right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
But there's a character designed to sort of break that,
you know once in a while, and it's really fun,
you know, and he's always coming in at the worst possibility,
be wildly inappropriate, because that is as a waiter we've
all had absolutely right, Yeah, And so there's a relatability
to it. And I mean I remember I was on
(03:07):
I was having lunch with a girlfriend of mine and
she had just gotten dumped and she was crying and
we had this waiter that was just so different and
I was likely has tears ready to.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
And I was like, all right, read the room.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And but that's how I use humor, I think effectively
it is. I do weaponize it, yes, you know, whereas
you know in the other movies. Yeah, I just think that,
like you know, when you were saying what Jordan said,
which is very true, like there's a certain there's.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
An architecture to a joke and a scare that.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Are very very similar because it is all about sort
of like how you set it up and how you
pay it off. And and I love to blend those things,
you know, And it's funny how it's it's you know,
I think it used to be more rare for audiences
to kind of dig that kind of stuff, and I
think that like we've all become a little bit more
(04:02):
open to it, which I love. And but yeah, I
mean I just think that there's there's strange bedfellows, but
they like work really well together.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah. What I find interesting about like the horror comedy genre.
Even if you could call it that, it's kind of
like two things put together, right, is that it's it's
true to how human nature is, how people are. Some
people break the tension with jokes, right, and it's like
a way of like coping. So in a way, like
you do have these people on this like high tension
like you know scene, but at the same time, like
you want to make a joke to kind of like
(04:32):
make yourself feel better, and it makes you feel better
that the characters are doing that as well. And then
but they're still in this horrible situation. It's almost like
a like a slight really like you said, relief, yeah,
and then when it kicks back up again, it's like,
oh god, here we go. And like you said, it's
a roller coaster ride. You know.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
It's just like I said, I think it's they belong together.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It's like peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
In my book, I like that, And so everything I
make as humor, you know, even when going all the
way back to like the paranormal movies, like those movies
were funny.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Yeah, there's lot of.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Humor in those movies. And that's intentional. It's also a.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Great way to endear the audience to your characters, because
if they make people laugh, they like that Pererson, someone.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Who makes you laugh is hard, Like that's how it's
hard to see them.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
If we have dinner and you make me laugh, I'm
leaving that dinner saying that guy's read, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And so it's the same thing for characters.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
I mean, that's how you made me felt. With the
waiter who kept coming in saying all these things. I
kept going, like, he's really funny. I hope he does it.
When a comic relief is going, you're like, dang, it's hopeless,
Like you know that it always stucks when that happens now, obviously,
Like you know, I find just you very very fascinating because,
like you said, you like to inject humor to into
your movies, and you're a big fan of Whour. You're
(05:40):
a big fan of Wes Craven as well. But I
want to know, like, what was that movie that kind
of like changed your brain chemistry. It's a question I
like to ask a lot of my guess.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
God, because there's you know, there's a few.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It's not like there was one movie there was one
movie that that altered the course of my life in
terms of like it was the moment that I was like,
I have to figure out how that can be my
job and I got I remember exactly how old I was.
I feel like I was like eleven or twelve, because
(06:12):
I loved movies prior to this. Right of course, it
wasn't like I ever.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Viewed it as like, oh, and that's a career path.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
The same here, you know, happens like that.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
And I saw James Cameron's Aliens opening night and my sister,
my older sister, took me, and I remember the moment
when Ripley comes out in the in the loader and
she's you know, says her classical line, and the audience.
(06:42):
I had never seen an audience irrupt like that, like
people leaping out of their seats like they went fucking.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Crazy, and it just struck me like a thunderbolt.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
And I was like, that's magic, Like I want to
miss what you I want to make people do that somehow.
And so that was a big one for me. I
would say, but yeah, I mean I think you know.
And then I started making like weird movies after that.
Weird weird those are great, but yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
I think that's probably the best example.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Okay, oh yeah, See for me, my examples would be
something like you know, Spider Man two weirdly enough did
that for me, where like it was like, you know,
I was see that was two thousand and two, so
I was only ten years old, and well that was
twenty four so I was twelve, And so you watch
that and you think, like, oh, twelve year olds just
going to go see superheroes. But then like it was
the first time where I saw that a movie could
be more than a movie.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
It's like the superheroes teaching me about responsibility and doing
what you need to do versus doing what you want
to do. And like, I feel like these movies like
it uses these mundane things or these things that we
take for granted and it says something deeper about it. Yeah,
And I feel like a lot of your movies do that,
and I feel like Drop is doing that when it
takes like the culture of like dating, the first date
and like this like oh, the person on their phone
(07:57):
is like the most insufferable date ever. Yeah, you know,
and I like how you did that where like she's
in this dire situation, but like I kept thinking from
the other side, Wow, her date, I'm surprised he's still here.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
There's a joke that like there's an there's like another
movie where you tell the story from his point of
view completely, and it's almost.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Like a bad comedy.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
Oh, because he's just like, what is this girl doing?
And she seems so cool? Right, We've been talking for
two months, and she was like.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Really, choke, I really want you to make this movie now. Yeah,
I think you can do that. You know, it could
be great. People want to every Obviously, everyone's like hanging
on a thread to like hear about Happy Deaf Day three.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
But I think, well, everybody's kind of living in their
own movie in a weird way. Like I have a
bad tendency to experience things in life and I see
them as a movie. I had a funny enough I
had a girlfriend who she was also a brilliant writer,
creative person, and she was she like had a crush
on this guy who worked in a denim store, Okay,
(08:57):
and so she's telling me these stories about how like
she was like going to his work and like hiding
behind the car, like peeking.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
At him and all this stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
And she told it in such an entertaining, quirky way
that I was like, this is such a fun rom com,
you know. But then I was like I had to
tell her. I'm like, but it is mine, but in
a fucking horror movie and you're a stucker, like you
can't do that stuff, you know. But like it's just
funny how everybody's kind of in their own movie, right right.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And and I feel like with this one, like again,
please if you ever get the inspiration to tell it
from that side, please do it. But when it comes
to like this movie, I know there's like kind of
like a lot of like research and refreshing involved and
kind of like like what are those cultural moments within
the day, like being on the phone the whole time,
someone who gets up to go to the bathroom. What
is the research like on this? Is that something that
(09:46):
you have to go and study or did?
Speaker 4 (09:49):
I don't think it's a research thing. I think it's
a life thing. Yeah, you know, well I'm kind of
ask like what was about you too? You pull from
your own grab bag of experiences, and I think the
other writers as well, Chris and Joe, we're pulling from
their you know, experiences too, because everyone can relate to
being nervous going into date.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Everyone can relate to being on a bad date, you know.
So I think that.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It was there's no shortage of ideas and stories there.
But I think in this case, you know, everything was
in the service of plot, you know, because it is
such a tightly wound machine, you know, so there isn't a.
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Lot of room for like other stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Everything was very much motivated by, you know, violet situation
and how she's sort of trying to outmaneuver this person
that she can't see.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
But I think a lot of like the characters.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
That we surround them with are people that we've all
crossed paths with, you know what I mean, Like we
all know, like I said, the annoying sort of chatty
overshare waiter. We all know the like cool bartender that
just seems to like be your immediate therapist, you know,
Like we all have those people.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
In our in our worlds, and so I.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
Think it was just about drawing from that experience and
placing them into the movie.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I love that. And speaking of worlds, like you literally
created a world within this restaurant, because for the most part,
this is almost like a single setting movie, almost like
a model episode of a TV show. But I think
a lot of people will be shocked to find out
that you built this restaurant. A lot of like some
people think you just went out find a really nice one,
but this was like built from the ground up. Absolutely,
(11:23):
Can you talk to me about doing this because one
I want to go there.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
They destroyed it.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Well, okay, you know what one of my super rich
friends to recreate.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Bung Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
We yeah, I mean, look, one of the things that
I was most excited about when I when I took
this project on was I knew I had to build
a restaurant, and so that was thrilling to me. The
idea of just getting to sort of conceptualize and imagine
what this place could look like and how it would
function sort of from a.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Story point of view.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
And you know, our production designer, Susie Clin, she's a genius.
She she did the impossible because again, like this isn't
some big budget movie, but it looks like one really
and that's really you know, very much indebted to her
and the rest of her team, and also our DP
Mark Spicer and his team because they also lit it
(12:22):
and made it look beautiful. And you know, it was
really it was astounding because it was a fully operational
restaurant that we actually had to build about twenty fee
twenty five feet off the ground because you know, we
have all these stunts that happened later, and so we
needed to build the set.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
So that we could do that stuff as well.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
And you know, we had a real chef who created
a real menu. I mean you would sit at a
table and open a menu and that was our actual menu,
and then he made that actual food.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Oh wow.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
And so that food was you know, in various forms.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
We had model food that was made to look identical
to the real food so that.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
The whole restaurant didn't reek at all times.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
And you know, so like a lot of tables that
were in the background if you couldn't really see people eating,
we didn't.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Need to have the real food out.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
But like Brandon, you know, is eating real food off
the menu.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
So it was really cool.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Like if you went behind the bar like it was,
I mean, there was no real alcohol.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
But the bars really disappointed me.
Speaker 4 (13:21):
But it was fully stocked, you know, and a lot
of fresh things like fresh herbs and mint and all
this stuff. It was just it was such an immersive set.
And I remember when we I purposely didn't let the
actors see the set wow, because we had started shooting
a while before. We actually were moving to this set,
and so they wanted to go, and I was like no, no, no,
(13:42):
no no, And we waited until it was fully dressed
and all the extras were in, and then we brought
them in for the first time. And I remember, especially
Megan's face like she just was in shock because it
was like, oh my god, I'm in a restaurant. Yeah,
And what that did for their performance, you know, because
it's so sometimes you can really feel the seams of
(14:02):
a set, you know what I mean, and they just
feel fake. But like, so much of our lighting was practical, Okay,
so it's not like you had giant movie lights all
over the place too. Everything was really subtle and so
it became way more immersive, I think than the average set.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Okay, talk to me about the lighting, because I felt
like your lighting techniques in this movie was so well
done and like to hear like a lot of that
was practical, but there was scenes where characters would kind
of like be looking at other characters and then it
will kind of zero win. Although with that one spotlight Yeah,
like tell me about the lighting technique of that.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting. That's where I felt like
we got to really lean into a more kind of
stage theatricality. Yeah, because what we're doing there is really
putting the audience inside.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
A Violet's head.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
You know.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
It's a very subjective kind of way to tell the story.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
But you know, it was a way to kind of,
like I said, make the audience feel what she's feeling.
You know, so when she's sort of trying to look
around the room and sort of figure out like who
are these who are the sus you know, we were
able to kind of spotlight certain people, you know, when
she's sort of feeling at her absolute lowest, you know,
where it feels like the Alla is lost kind of
moment in the film, you know, we visually drop her
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into like an abyss. Yes, and so there were a
lot of things that you know, we created to just
sort of keep the audience engaged on a very personal
level with her and also to break up you know,
the potential pitfall of making a movie in a single
location that really does revolve around people sitting at tables,
(15:32):
you know, like it's not the most exciting thing in
the world visually, and so my job and the big
challenge of the movie, and again this goes for the
DP as well, it was like, how do we make
this visually exciting, right, you know, and so that was
something that we worked very hard to do.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, I think, I think when it comes to like
you said, when it comes to single setting, it can
be very easy to just kind of like be stagnant
and just kind of like rely like not everything could
be kind of like if you're going to be my
dinner with Andre and have two people talking, you got
to make that conversation really exciting, right. But when it
comes to like this movie, the conversation is not only
kind of like riveting because it kind of progresses the
story along, but you're also kind of like using lighting effects,
(16:08):
the texting, the technology to kind of like like you said,
I heard you in an interview say, like the restaurant
itself is a.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Character, absolutely right. The restaurant is a character, The text
is a character.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
You know, all these different elements all kind of come
together and they do help us create I think a
movie that moves at a really brisk pace, you know,
for something that is set in a single location.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Like right, So with this movie makes the use of
drops right, and the movie at the very like most
especially when it starts off like it uses memes, and
I want to know, like what was the curation process,
Like what did you have a meme guy on set?
Like did you like pick some of.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Your technician on set that helped us remotely deal with
all the phones, which was pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
So everything was preloaded on the phones.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
Yes, so the actors could react to all the things
that they were seeing initially in the movie on phones
because then eventually we abandoned. But the memes were most
of the memes were were picked by the writers and
they had placed them in the script. So you were
reading and she got one.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
It was there.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
It was like the hot although he's.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
In the trailer, he's not in the movie.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Oh my god, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Yes, it's just one of those things where like I
think the one in the movie is a little bit
harder to read, and we show it more than once
in the film, and so for trailer purposes, like they
needed to like just hit it one time, so they
swapped it. But it was a it was a pretty
like artist process in terms of, like we had to
(17:41):
clear all of those memes and I and I they
weren't just they weren't. Yeah, it was, and they weren't
just placeholders, like I knew. I argued that we needed
to get the real ones because that's what helps ground
the movie if the audience is like, oh, I know
that one, I've gotten that one, I've sent that one,
and so it was important to get them. It just
was like a lot of the people who were in
(18:02):
them now like have agents and stuff. You know, like
one person one of the memes we were told their
agent told is like, oh, yeah, they're not doing that anymore. Yeah,
Like it was such a weird like wait a minute,
and no, we're offering to pay you for a thing
that's out.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
In the world.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Are you crazy?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
So it took a lot of time and effort to
clear them, but we got it in the nick of
time because I wanted them there when we started shooting.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
So yeah, that was an interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
It's it's so funny you say that because I worked
in advertising, so like I know what it's like to
like get the things cleared of, things that people are
kind of known for, and the whole time, I was
like thinking to myself, Gosh, I really hope they used
that like old school, like like winning Baby be where
the baby has sand.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And he's like, there's so many good ones, and I.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
Was like, oh, they probably can't get him because he's
probably like we.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Had more in the script, you know, like the the
they're in one of the versions of the script. We
had the you know the little girl who's standing in
front of the Bernie house, Yes, she was in there, but.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Then we got rid of that one. So yeah, I
was it was funny.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Okay, well I need to tell it because like my
favorite meme in the movie is the one where it's
like the car veering off and it's like, oh, a
pretty nice date, best best exactly.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
That was my person They're fun, They're really like That's
what's great is that, you know, it's a manifestation of
the horror comedy thing, right it is, But it's also moreover,
what I think is great about it, and this also
kind of threads over to the to the actual text themselves,
is that you.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Get a sense of a personality so that whoever's.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Doing this to her is perversely enjoying it.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Right, Yes, they're taking the time to make these memes.
I thought about it.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
There's there's an enjoyment factor to it, and and that's
what I think makes them so unsettling and creepy, you know,
as supposed to just like do this, do that? You know,
it's like this person is really messing with her.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah, it's it's the fact that a psychopath will take
the time to say which meme am I gonna send
and then just sit there craft and send it, watch
your reaction and then totally just I'm like, first off,
the talent to send that many memes and as a
quick response, this person is.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Like they are on their game.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
I got a bank of memes and they're all ready
to go. I already know about the same. Now I
want to try something because I feel like we still
have some time, and I just I need to ask
two things. Okay, do you have your phone on you?
Would you like to play a game?
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
All right, so we got ten minutes, let's go. Okay,
So what I'm gonna do is just like your villain
who already has a bank of memes already set up,
I have a bank of like thriller comedies, horror comedies
already ready to go. I'm gonna air drop you one
and you give me the most terrible one sentence description
of this movie.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
I need to give you a terrible description of a
bad one.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Like okay, yeah, and then we'll reveal the movie like
right after, because our audience is going to try and guess.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
It sounds fun. Yeah, this is this is hope. I
know all the movies.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Okay, you ready? All right, I got one for you
except accepting.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
Okay, girl about to marry the wrong guy.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
It's a good girl about to marry the wrong guy. Yeah, there,
it is all right. But the reveal was ready or
not starring Tomorrow Weaving. I mean that is a very
apt description, for sure. I'm just concise. There's a lot
more that goes on in the movie, but I think
that's that's it. Are you ready? And I think this
is very fitting given like where we're at right now.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
So I love cheeseburgers so good, the most delicious cheeseburger ever.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Honestly, a good cheeseburger can change your life. Don't give
me a state, don't give me all that, Just give
me like a nice your in and out left.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
A movie is so hungry in my life.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
The movie is the menu. See I like that.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
I don't feel like I'm playing this right, but I'm
still in.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I think I I like I like your like quick witted,
just like out of the Dome responses. Okay, this is
one of my favorite ones of all time. Favorite movies
of all time.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Okay, I know this one that would be embarrassing.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Oh oh god, there's lots of can I swear?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Go ahead?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
I mean like, I don't know, like.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Meta mind fuck ha ha.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
I will use that as a tag line for every movie,
for every time I've described this movie to everyone. Meta
mind fuck haha. That is Cabin in the Woods. I
honestly think that is the best way to describe that movie.
Fuck haha. All right, here's oh underrated one, very underrated,
very underappreciated when it when it first released.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, I call this fuck you for sleeping
on it.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
That is Jennifer's body. Yes, you're heard for Christoper landed himself.
You for sleeping on Jennifer's body. Oh my favorite. I'm
gonnapoil this one before you even see it. Favorite zombie
movie of all time. Okay, all right, it's clearly not mine.
(23:41):
Oh yes, I like that response. I like that response.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
You know, wacky's any Brits dealing with dead people.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I feel like everyone's gonna get it just off of
that description, and that's what makes it a good one.
Can you get it?
Speaker 2 (24:00):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
We already got some head and I was like, yep,
shot of the dead, shot of the dead, and that
is amazing. All right, we got two more more.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Okay, I want this to go in forever.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Okay, I actually got quite a few more. We got times,
good time, you know what. You know, we just talked
about him. We just talked about him. Okay, all right,
hold on, did send here we go? All right?
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Oh gosh, oh god, this is another hard one. Uh
a really dark, bizarre way to use hands across America.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
It's us. No one was gonna get that. No one
was gonna get that at all. I was gonna say,
when your an evil twin decides they're the one, I
guess something like that.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, that's good too.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I think I think this will be a fun I
think this will be a fun one.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
All right.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I'm really happy that you have time to watch all
these movies while making a lot of movies yourself.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Oh see, Like I just want to like.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Like, don't like stay away from gen Z.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
You know what I thought of that when I watched
the movie, I said, gen Z be tripping gen Z.
Crazy bodies, Bodies, Bodies. We got a nod mind the camera, yep, yep,
all right, two more now, we really got two more left?
All right? This one classic. It's my one of my
daughter's favorite movies. Actually, I feel bad for showing it
(25:46):
to her, but what can you do. I just my
kids watch this really, ok I love it. Seven Yeah,
like there it is.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
They're golden. Okay, Oh gosh, like cute little things that
you know, normally you want to cuddle, but they would
probably kill you anyway.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, Grimlins, Grimlins. All right, last one. I think you're
really gonna like this one. Scent dropped.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Oh god, sometimes birthdays are just overrated.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
Well I hate Soon as I hit thirty, I said
the same thing. Yeah, happy death day everybody, or as
it's known in France, happy birth dead, happy birthdad birth dead.
I like that of it. Okay, that we love the translation.
All right, thank you so much for playing. Dropped the game.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
That was a really fun game, right, I just do
that with like friends, that would be fun.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Let's do that we created a new game that's pretty good,
pas Bro. All right, we get back to my questions.
I believe we have like three minutes left because we
had a lot of fun here, all right, So stepping
outside had dropped just really really quickly. Like we talked
about like some of your favorite movies. We talked about
like what got you into kind of like the genre
and everything. And I just want to say, like, I
(27:23):
was really bummed to hear that you're not directing Scream
seven anymore, because you're a big fan of Wes Craven.
I want to know, like, did you ever have any
correspondence with Wes Craven? Did you guys have a relationship.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
You know, we didn't have a relationship.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
But I have a funny story when I first met him,
I saw him at a restaurant and I was probably
I was very young. I was like, I don't know,
twenty nineteen and the first Scream had already come.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Out, which I hear you had hand in getting me.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
I had a little bit of a moment there, And
so I saw him at a restaurant and I knew
he had come into our office a couple of times,
but I.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Didn't get to see him.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
But so I see him at a restaurant and I'm like,
I'm one of those people, like I don't like to
bother celebrities, you know what I mean, Like I'm not
going to be you know. And but I was like,
I was so compelled to go up to him, and
I was like, oh my god, I have to say it.
But I was also a nervous wreck and also I'm
one of those people that when I'm nervous, my hands
(28:29):
swept profusely, like it's disgusting. And so I walked up
to his table and I was like one of those
people is like shaking. I'm like, oh, mister Craven, I
liked me so much, and I just wanted to come
over and say and he was so nice because he's
like oh, and he reached out and he and I
didn't know.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
What to do, and I just shook his hand.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
And as I shook his hand, I saw his face
change like and then he pulled his hand away and
very discreetly wiped it in his fence.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
And I was like, oh, I grossed my scrave it
out awful.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
So I was mortified, mortified, And that's my That's when
I met West.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Oh my god, that's so awesome. Yeah, And like, like
last thing I want to say is like the fact
that because I heard from you that, you know, you
were one of the first people ever to read the
screenscript I was that one was called Scared Movie and
you're the one who told everyone to buy it.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
So I was an intern at the company, the production
company Woods Entertainment that made the original movie. They knew
I was a horror freak. I was the only one
in the office who was obsessed with horror movies. Yeah,
and this it was a spec script that came in
and I read the first like fifteen pages, and I
ran into.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
My boss's office and I said buy it. And they
were like what I was like, And it was like
a hot russ bro you.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:50):
So, like a lot of companies were already getting into it,
and I think sort of the combination of like hearing
that other companies were starting to take it in to
try and buy it, and then the nerdy in turn
was like already freaking out over it, so they like
kind of started the process of buying it before they
finished reading it. And then it was so cool because
like that's how I met Kevin Williamson because he would
(30:12):
come into our office and he for some reason at
the time, didn't have a car, and so I drove
him home a few times to his apartment in West Hollywood,
and you know, I was like so in awe of
like being in a car with a Hollywood screenwriter, you know.
But then you know we actually stayed friends, you know,
or you've known each other for that long.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Incredible. Man, that's a great story. Thank you so much
for talking to me. Man, Thank you so much for
this date.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
This was really fun.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
This is great. I think I think we'll go on
date number two.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Let's do it.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I really we didn't get that classic gets you know what,
Come on, we hold the stem.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I don't drink, So there you go. That's that's what
we need take care of.
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