July 12, 2025 • 32 mins
Mr. Terrific aka Edi Gathegi joins the podcast to talk Superman and his favorite movies
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, what's up a medicagy. I play mister Terrific in
the new Superman movie you're watching get Wrecked with my
boy Juju Straw had Goofy. Wake up, Juju, time to
go to work?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right? Can we talk about we go.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Back in it, get it?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, wake up back getting that get it that goal
with everyone saying that up next, it's not my father.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
The vocals are goal that making that hit. It so
fucky that my nighbor is a movie the way then that.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Role they saying him.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
People, baby, you know I'm making everybody upset because we the.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
We get and I know we gunning your bread, gunning
your bread, gunning your bread, cunning bread, donning your bread. Bad?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
What's going on? Everybody? It's your boy, Juju Green aka
Straw had Goofy.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You're a movie guy, and we got a very special
episode here for you today since Superman is coming out
this weekend. We are sitting here with the mister Terrific
Eddie Gathegi of Superman.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
How are we doing, bro, fantastic man. I have to
say fantastic, but I can't say to you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Can't say you've been trying not to say that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm trying and everybody says it to me and like
real quick, yeah, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Want to wear that word out.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Man. I hate when you have to like take words
out of your like vocabulary, your daily lexicon.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I went to Epic Universe and everybody cap asking me, oh,
ho was Epic Universe. I'm like, I'm trying not to
say epic. It's so easy. It's the low Hagen fruit.
So you got to use another word like it was mamaculate,
it was nice, you.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Know, sensational Yeah, sensation, mister fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, miss that's the whole end that we got that too.
We got that coming.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
We could talk about that too, because I know you're
a big comic fan, comic book movie films, but I'm man,
bro listen, but we don't get into Superman. But first off, man, Like,
the reason why I have this whole podcast is because
I feel like watching movies teaches us a lot about
like who we are. Whenever I talk to somebody, I
go like, Yo, what's your favorite movie? And based off
of what they tell me, I'm like I kind of
got a good idea of like how you think, how
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you work, how you came up, and so what I
like to do on this podcast. The reason why it's
called get Wrecked is because I want to learn more
about you. So I want to know first and foremost, like,
what is a movie that changed your brain chemistry that
was like a building block to who Eddie yettak you was?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You know, it's it's two movies actually.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, give me talk if it was five, give me five.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And these movies inadvertently led me to become an actor,
but not at the time that I saw them. It
wasn't until retrospect that I said those were the forming moments, right.
The first one was Last of the Mohicans. Okay, okay,
Danny day Lewis. It was the first time that I'd
seen a movie where I couldn't really articulate why it
was a masterpiece. The technical aspects of it just kind
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of took me in. And Danny day Lewis is all immersive,
you know, performance that's you know, that's always gonna.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Of course, I mean as Danny day Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And then the second movie, it was Friday.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Okay, okay, okay, listen, I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
It was Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
In fact, I went back and I watched Friday like
three months ago, and I hadn't seen it since it
came out, right, you know, back with ninety four.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, yeah, ninety yeah. Now I want to say ninety five.
I want to sayydn't.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I don't think I even saw it until ninety six.
But I knew every single line.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh, bro, I can tell I can thirty years late,
thirty years.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, I'm like every line was a bar and it
is the most hilarious movie.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Chris Tucker, naturally funny, bro.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It was just that you were watching the star in
the making. Hu. So I think when I got into acting,
my idea was I want to be Daniel d Lewis
meets Chris Tucker.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's oh wow, that's a combination right there.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I think you've like hit the nail on the head
with that, bro. Like, because when I think of Friday,
like obviously, you know, there's like the comparisons to Clerks, right,
and I feel like Friday is our Clerks. But I
feel like, as someone who grew up in Compton, that
was just like, I'm glad I'm getting a hood movie
that doesn't have like the the like usual black struggle
and it's there's a little bit of struggle, but it's
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almost like a natural observant people in the neighborhood type
of thing. Like everybody in Friday I look at, I
can like point to somebody in my pastighborhood that I know, Right,
Eazel was the crackhead tricky that.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I knew in my neighborhood, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Like, I'm like, I know all these people, I know
the folice, I know the debos, and I just always
say that movie is one of the most organically funny
movies that I've ever seen in my life. I love
the other two, but like there's something that about that
first one.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
That first one. I like the other two too, but
the first one is magic.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, and ice Cube wrote that one too, wrote it.
He wrote it like that's like I F Gary Gray
did director? Yes, that was F Carey hold on key
fact check that. I want to say it was f
Gary Gray.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, yeah, yeah, and I co write it. He co
wrote it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, And uh, I remember there's a scene in a
straight out of Content again with DJ it was pooh.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
See see look at ship Brown.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Come on, you know see this is why this is
how you know it like changes, he said, I'm gonna
like dive all the way into Friday. You know what.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That movie though, I love them.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh my god, Bro, I was too young to be
watching that, but I still watched it and I still
quoted it, Bro, like, oh my gosh. Okay, So I'm
glad you said that. Movies movie movies that did that
for me. And I've said this many times on the podcast,
is movies like Spider Man two. Spider Man two was
like the first movie where I realized what not at
the time, but like I look back on, I'm like
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I realized what cinema was at the time, right, Like
you know, usually Spider Man was that guy you saw
on the cartoon, the guy that you read in comic books.
But that was like the first time that they used
a character that I knew that was more about the
everyday life, right, the struggles of what you have to
do versus what you want to do. And I was like,
I can actually see myself in Spider Man, like what
happens when I have to sacrifice in order to be
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the best version of myself? And the fact that was
being told through a Spider Man movie through visual effects
that still stand up to this day with like the
first score that I actually was able to be like,
I need to hear this on CD by Danny Elfman.
That movie right there just changed everything for me, and
it just made me like fall in love with movies
that much more. But yeah, Spider Man two, oh, Lord
of the Rings as well. Okay, my grandmother took me
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to a screening of Lord of the Rings without telling
me what it was. She used to just take us
to movies that she wanted to see, but she raised
me and my three other brothers, so it was four
of us, and she said, I want to see this movie.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I'm gonna take them.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
To see it because I don't have a babysitter, so
she just kind of took us to see it. And
I remember the ball Rock scene where Gandal says you
shall not pass, and my ten year old brain exploded.
Bro Like I'm talking like what it was like the
first massive, like blockbuster moment that I can remember that
made me go, this is this is like literally like
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rechanging my chemistry. As I'm like thinking about it, and
I think back to that moment and I watched that
moment to this day and I'm just like, damn, this
is the reason why we make movies. The power of cinema. Man,
it's the power of cinema. All right, So listen, I
love this question because finding out that you are an
athlete you played basketball in college is ish, but.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, that's that's why I'm an acting. I wasn't
gonna make it as an act.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But that's the thing though, man, So how long did
you play basketball before you?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I didn't even play I didn't play high school, Baket.
I didn't play sports in high school at all. I
really I was working and I was focused on, you know,
other things. And then it was my homeboys and said, listen,
you can't graduate without getting the silky stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Okay, okay, I got to.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Get the silky I tried out for the team, but
I hadn't played with them in middle school or any
of the other years in high school, so I didn't
think I was gonna make the team. But I made
the team. But I rolled the bench, but I rode
the bench. I didn't really get that much playing time.
And when I went to college, I just started practicing
and playing and I just I feel like I got
a little good. And then I was a part of
this three point shooting competition some of the players from
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the team and they were like, we need a shooting guard.
You need to try out. So it was in the
trying out that I hurt my knee.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh got it, got it, got it. Oh bro.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
See the fact that you just picked it up in college,
Like that sounds a lot like Joel and b to me,
you know what I'm saying, Like you just picked it
up and it was just it sounded like it was
natural to you. Like the fact that the basketball, you
know what I'm saying, Like the fact that somebody told you, hey,
you should probably do this and you actually made the
team without even knowing that you was gonna do it.
I'm impressed by that. Like, I don't know if you
realize how impressive that is. College basketball is no joke.
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And I played basketball like for a huge.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Chunk of my life.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You know, growing up in Confort, you just think that's
all you got. It's either rapping or balling. I have bars,
So I had to do the ball and I didn't
get to college because it got to a point where
I started to realize my love for storytelling and drama.
I had this drama teacher who kind of like a
stand in delivery type of teacher that was like, oh,
I'm gonna teach you more about life. And I did
a couple of plays, I did a couple like uh,
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screenwriting courses and there and then like I was like, Okay,
I think this is what I want to do, and
basketball like kind of feel.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
By the wayside. However, I still a little fun fact
about me.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I went to our teacher in high school, same high
school that James Harden went to. I was a freshman
on the varsity team, riding the bench.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So I got to you know, like, you know, I
had a little I had a little sub like I
had a little sub. But you know, I still wrote
the bench.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And but I got to witness James Harden front row
and sell, you know, and I got to say that
I was a contributing factor. By a contributing factor, I
helped them practice. You know what I'm saying, I should
have exactly. You know, I saw it like I witnessed
from the front the most front row of front rows
of them win the state championship.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And I got myself a little ring off of that.
Oh come on, so you know what I'm saying, like, so,
I I was in there. I was.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I wasn't in there as much, but I think you're
over here. I'm over here, like I was closer to
the hoot than you were. So, but I wanted to
relate to you with like when it comes because since
you do have basketball experience, you know what it's like
to kind of like go through the dedication it takes
to be an athlete, right, And I just want to know, like,
as an athlete turned actor, how has your experience of
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that dedication like translated into your work as an actor?
Does it translate at all?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I mean, I don't know which came first, the chicken
or the egg. I feel like the dedication that I
just have as a person helped me get to that
place where I could, you know, try out for the team. Uh,
And I just that folds into the acting. I take
my work very seriously. I'm very focused. The stakes are
very high for me when it comes to the work,
But when it comes to myself, I don't take myself
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that seriously at all. I'm Friday.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I can tell that too.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I listened, I watched so many of your interviews and
I'm just kind of like I can chill with this
dude right here. You really get off that vibe and
like we almost had a whole nother podcast episode before started,
right before this whole thing started. Like we'll probably like
put that like the Bloop of Reels or something like that,
like the Lost Tapes or something like that. But I
just really appreciate, like the work you've been putting in,
and you've been doing it for a long time. And
then but the moment I like perceived you, you know
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what I'm saying. You know, not like there's guys you
see movies and you see another movies You're like, oh,
I know that guy.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I know that guy. But the first time I like
perceived you was obviously Twilight.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And you know, I wasn't like into the Twilight craze,
but my best friend's little sister was read all the books.
We have to go take her at midnight to see
the movies and whatnot. And I remember you appeared on screen, bro,
and your aps was just shining, Like your abs is
just shining. And I've never seen this was the most
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unique theater reaction that I can remember. Is I've heard
so many teenage girls oo god like piece of that
I was like, wait a minute, like he's handsome and everything,
but like that, and then like his sister just leans
in and just says, this is for us, Like can
you talk to me about like your experience being a
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part of like that big franchise and stepping into that
is Like, cause I think you that was like what
your third or fourth.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Movie or something like that, something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't remember where it came in the in the
order of the career, but it wasn't a movie that
I was initially interested in because I read the sides,
and the sides just sounded ridiculous to me, you know, like, uh,
the lines where the humans were the humans are tracking us,
but we led the meast. I went, so we're not
dealing in our world?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, what is this?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Fan wasn't into it right right, right right. And then
a friend of mine at the time, who just graduated
from from a drama school said, this is what we do.
You have to audition for this. So I went in
and I made a tape and then Catherine Hardwick.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Was just a nut right right, Oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Jumping on tables and playing the parts of the other characters.
I was like, she's Wold. I mean I might want
to work with.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Kind of liked it though, crazy lady. Yeah uh.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
And then and then I got the job, and then
I read the books, and the books I liked them.
I was a little embarrassed that I liked them. Okay,
I like them because I love love. I love rom
romantic too, and I love Trojan Horse romance stories. This
is a romance romance story. But I love movies that
it's not like Rocky.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, okay, rock get that.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You know people think that that's a boxing movie to
love story.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, he's doing it for the woman.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Doing it for the woman. After he loses the fight,
which she miraculously survives.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Questions, where's that where Dreda?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I cry every single time.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Best scene in the movie is when he's laying in
bed with her and he's telling her like I just
want to go to the distance, Like that's it, that's
it all I want. That's the best scene in the
I don't want to be a bum.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You know that's another get wreck wreck a Rocky Rocky Listen,
Rocky Listen. I think Rocky is the best movie ever made.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I mean, you're not crazy to say that, You're not
and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, because it's not just that the movie is perfect.
It's the story behind the movie. Okay, it's what Sylvester
Stallone had to endure. Yeah, the selling of his dog,
the small budget, then wanting him out, offering him tons
of money, him saying no, I want to be the
star of it, just bankrupt like that. The story behind
the story is beautiful, it's crazy, it's so inspiring. It's
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why everybody wants to be a writer director now because
he did that. Then it's the story that everybody hopes
to have.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Like it's the reason why people come to Hollywood with
like five dollars in their pocket and they say that
I got this script, like hopefully, like I can be
the next Rocky, I could be the next Syvesters, you
know what I'm saying. And I feel like I'm gonna
take it a step further because you say that's one
of the best movies ever made. I think Shaw Shank
Redemption might be like up there, like right, it's one
of my four movies I consider perfect.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'll tell you the four later on.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
But I think that Rocky could very well be one
of the best like franchises ever and it really shouldn't be, right,
Like usually when you have like sports franchises, they kind
of wear themselves out by like the third, fourth movie
or something like that. Rocky for is my favorite one.
It's my favorite of the Rocky franchise. Then, were to
talk about like the continuation or spinoffs to whatever you
want to call it. Creed is like for me, that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And Rocky, you know what I'm saying there right up there,
that's right up there, and so and then the fact
that you have Sevestas stillone nominated for Best Actor and
Rocky then he comes back doesn't increate nominated for Best
Supporting Actor.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
It's like, these are the ingredients to make like a
great franchise that the person who is a part of
it from the beginning is still like very much in
it and loves it and like wants to keep doing
more of this, and then passing the baton off to
give like rise to someone like Ryan Coogler to do
something great with it.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
My other three perfect movies, right, and I'm gonna give
you some Rex here right now. So I already said
Stashing Redemption perfect movie, right. Tim Robbins should have been
nominated for best actor in that movie as well.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Then you got et a movie that could take me
through the end. Again, I told you, I'm an emotional
movie watcher. Takes me through the entire emotional sp I
feel everything when I was a child, Yes, of course,
and that's it, you know, emotion, fear. But it's that
scene when they're flying both times over the moon. I'm
like this again. The reason why movies are made. The
John Williams score and.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
The visuals are the most stunning. In that moment they
did let a little ride it or show at Universe Studios. Kid.
My parents took me and they chose me to go
up and be on the bicycle.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
See, and I thought I was Elliott School and I said,
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I love that. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Also, I'm not I bring this up to anybody who
will listen. An underrated thing that I love about that
movie is that Steven Spielberg does this very subtle thing
to get you to trust the children the most, and
everyone except for the mother for at least the until
the last like ten minutes, all the adults either have
their faces obscured or the shot from the waist down
you never see an adult's face throughout that entire film.
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It doesn't even matter if it's like a wide shot,
like even that scene during Halloween where the parents are
walking their kids, they're still in like silhouette and you
only see the kids.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I feel like I haven't seen the movie since I
was a kid. But this is why it got us, Yes,
because the adults don't exist. We are in there with
it feels like through his field what I'm saying and
connecting on that level with the child and that and
it's that we see ourselves in him and that's like
subtle ways to just put us in those shoes that like,
I feel like people don't understand until they like really
dive deep.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So et perfect movie. Like we can go on and
on about that number three it's called Her.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh this is Spike Jones.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Spike Jones, Joaquin Phoenix Schall, Joe Hansson and sci fi. Yes, sir, bro,
that's my favorite movie of all time, all the time, Bro.
I think that movie is perfect, from its cinematography to
its music arkde Fire Kills, the score in that one Man,
Scara Joel Hansson, her acting or just her voice, disembodied voice,
like you just feel so much emotion and pain and
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curiosity in it, and like I just I melt every
time she talks.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
There's a scene, there's a scene.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
And like, I'm not gonna to you like like like
you know, I was getting I was getting a scar
drol hands and fatigue at the time because she was
in Avengers and then she you know, she was in
the Iron Man two. She did Lucy at the time
as well. And at this point, I'm thinking, Okay, she's everywhere,
like I need a break from scar Joe. Just give
me the voice.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Just give me but the voice.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Right, I was like I heard her and like she
just kind of like rely like flipped something in my
brain that I was like, I love Scargoe all over again.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It was such a different performance for her, and she
didn't have to do anything physical. I don't know what
she's doing in the move, but that voice. I was like,
I just feel so much coming from this and her
chemistry with Joaquin Phoenix, who's acting by himself most of
the time because he's just talking to her. That just
made me fall in love with music. It's a it's
a love story, but an unconventional love story because he's
in love with his like SERI or like whatever, but
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it tells it uses AI to kind of like tell
this more human story of like connection, what is actual emotion,
Like do we feel there's Oh, there's I don't want
to get too much into it because that would be
a whole noother podcast. But there's this scene where he's
in the bed and he's talking to her on the phone.
He's talking about like his marriage that like kind of
like went away, and he saying that he's afraid to
feel anything after his marriage because he thinks there're just
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gonna be lesser versions of things that he's already felt, right,
And he's talking to an AI that is trying to
understand what the feeling is, and she comes back with
I had all these emotions that was happiness of me
feeling something like fear that these feelings and then fear
that these feelings were just programming, right, And I was
just kind of like these are concepts that like I
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like like, I'm just like WHOA like this? It's like
it's really taking me down this rabbit hole. So so
much depth, man, And then yeah, so I could talk
about that movie all day.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And then last movie, are you.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
An anime, not as not as much as someone I know.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Someone in here is in anime, just Grace is in anime.
But so there's this anime film. I really please, I
want you to watch this, like, please find it rented,
do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It's called your name. Okay, look at her, look listening.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I really want to put your top four. These are
my top four perfect films.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Right. I see this film. I reckon in this film.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Nobody has told me that these movies, that this movie
is not good, that they don't like this movie. It's
essentially a body swap romantic comedy. It's about these two kids,
ones in Tokyo, ones out in the Boonies in Japan,
and randomly they switch bodies like two or three times
a week and they don't know why.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Right, And that's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
There's a twist in the midsection that flips the whole
movie on its head and makes it even more beautiful.
But the score is so good. But this is a
great story. You know, it's a great story, right.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I feel like you can put that story in any
live action it's gonna be done.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And honestly, if they did a live action I'll be
the first in line to see it. But the score
is so great that two days after seeing it, I
went and bought a piano because I said, I have
to allow I.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Have to learn a new skill in order to play
the score.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And now I could play like a little song from
the movie because I'm that obsessed with The animation is
some of the most sublime animation that I've ever seen
in my life. This again, the story, the way it
flips on its head is just it's just a beautiful story.
So your name lock it in, Please, your name, you
to watch it. See we got it. We got here
from Friday. How crazy is that?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
That's what That's what this is all about.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Man, that's what this is all speaking of Chris Tucker
The Dead Presidents. Man.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Okay, okay, see that's the huge budes.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, that that movie is is one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Okay, I need to you know what, I'm gonna write
that down because I actually haven't seen that President, Dead President,
So I'm actually locked in it.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yes, I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I've
heard so much.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You got to see that for the culture.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
B Okay that yeah, you got to see it.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
For the culture.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Certain, there's certain.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
It's like you're saying you didn't see the color purple
or something. Yeah, sometimes we just have to take a
moment and be like.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, dead president's president.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You gotta watch it.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Don't worry. I saw both color purples. I saw both
of them. All right.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
So next question, Man, So I loved how you describe
being a part of this project. Every time I see
you talk about being in Superman like, you talk about
how excited you are. But there was one moment in
particular where you said that the amount of joy is
hard to describe being in such an iconic project as this,
but you said the best way you could describe it
is that it's the intersection betwe terror and bliss.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes, can you.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Give me like a moment working on this film when
you felt extreme terror in another moment where you felt
extreme bliss.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I mean I felt I felt a combination of those
two things many times in this process, Like when when
the possibility of joining this production veils itself to you,
it's terror and bliss.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Man, No, I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
You know. I feel like I'm very very happy with
my career and I've kind of, you know, been able
to do high level work, but you know, skating underneath
the radar, and I didn't know that I was ready
to be a part of something that could potentially change
that for me. But then also it's a wonderful opportunity.
You'd be a fool not to take advantage, of course.
So it's just I mean, it's just been different iterations
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of this is the most amazing thing possible for an
artist and an actor. I love CBMs, comic book movies.
I just I love them. I love cinema. I love
them so much. So I'm so excited to be like
a part of that, and I've gotten to do it
twice now, yeah, you know, yeah, But at the same time,
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you know, it's it's it's scary because there's a lot
of responsibility. You know, people are diehard fans for these
things and they're watching it like a hawk.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah you know what I mean, especially this one in particular.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
But the good news is I think James is a
master storyteller, you know what I mean. He put his
whole heart into it. At the end of the day,
that's all you can do, you know, if you make
something with love, then it's up to everybody else to
interpret what that.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Is, You're not always done. He always does that too. Yeah,
I get what you're saying. I think we've like adopted
like an unofficial, kind of like catch phrase whenever we
find out that James gun is attached to something, and
that's a James and James Gunn we trust Yeah, right,
Because I said this after watching Superman. I don't think
the man is capable of making a bad movie.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Do you know why? Because this man has a reverence
for every aspect of filmmaking. He loves story, he loves actors,
he loves the set designer. Yes, he loves the wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
He loves music. We love that music.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
He loves every aspect of this art form. And through
that love, it's hard. I mean, Quentin Tarantino says that
it's hard to make a bad movie. Yes, and you
approach something with that much love, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Love that and quit Tarantino's my favorite director of all time. So, like,
I'm fully aware of that quote.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Don't trust in James Gunn the moment he becomes cynical,
or the moment that he stops caring, you know what
I mean, I don't think that that's gonna happen in
his lifetime because he has so much of it. Yeah,
he's very passionate. Now he's running the studio, So we're
gonna get a lot of iterations of different stories. Hopefully
we get mister Terrific and different expressions.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'm waiting for that, man, I'm waiting for that.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Like, and let's dive more into mister Terrific, bro, because
like you know, it's a I'm not like the most
die hard comic book fan, Like I feel like I'm
a casual one, but like I retain a lot of information, okay,
and so like in my comic book travels, like you know,
you come across mister Terrific and you hear like the katholic,
third smartest man in the world, right, and you just
want to see somebody on screen, which we've got like
(24:01):
an Justice League Unlimited Justice stuff like that. Arrow was
like the most recent live action one that we've gotten,
but like to see him on the big screen. You
it's like you can't help but want to see him
appear in other things. And the way you play this character,
I think you're a standout in this movie, right, No, Bro,
Like my publicist called me and he was like, oh,
you're gonna be really excited to get Eddie on your podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I was like, I'm already am.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
He says no, but he has like a big role
in this and I know how much like you love him.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I was like, okay, cool, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
We'll see watch the movie and you have like probably
not that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Sorry, I cussed on my own thing. That's my own thing.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I look at I look to you guys, because like
sometimes we get the call like can we cut that up?
But this DC, we can do it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Bro, you have the best action.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That ship.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Miss it terrific, goddamn it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
The sequel fair play.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Listen, I want to see that. I want to see that,
and I'll merch that. Listen, DC, you watch him. Got
a guy to get the merch for you, baby, I'll
do it. I'll get it. But I do think that
you have the best action sequence in the film. And like,
listen as a black man seeing that, bro, like.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like hat you nod over here too? Hat soft bro?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Like yeah, no, I was just gonna say, I saw
it last night. I got it, caught a screening last night, man, Yeah,
And exactly, I was gonna say, we didn't get a
chance to sync up before this because we usually run
through it.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
But yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So the thing but the thing that so we've gotten
like black geniuses and like film before. Yeah, but what
strikes me about mister terrific is that he's so unapologetic
about it, right, like that line that you say, Man, god,
I'm it's a terrific God damn it. And it's like
in a world where black men, black people, black men
especially are like tone policed and told to like humble yourself,
(25:52):
as Kendrick Lamar says.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like to see that character's been. Man, I'm the smartest
motherfucker in this room.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Like you get out the way, Like, please tell me
how good it felt to like embody that character, Like
tell that you gotta walk me through being able to
push somebody out the way and be like miss a terrific.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Goddamn it.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Oh that's so funny. I'm gonna answer that question. But
just because you said the push, I'm gonna tell you
this little funny story there was there was there was
a push in that moment, and because of what you're saying,
I went up to the actor beforehand. I said, listen,
I need you to do me a favor, and you
don't have to do this, but I'm gonna ask you anyways.
I'm gonna mush your face and he was like yeah, yeah,
(26:30):
and I go, it's better to ask for forgiveness than
for permission, so I'd rather right, and I'm letting you know,
so you know, we roll the scene, I mush's face
and I'm waiting James cut do it again. I'm sitting
there now, I'm mushing his face out the way. Goddamn,
(26:52):
this is terrific.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I'm sorry because that bush heals something in my soul
what I saw. I can help you out because I
would listen, listen.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I don't want to get too much of the spoils,
but this specific character, I'm like, Bro, you can place it.
You a lap dog and you over here thinking that
you got everything sold up. I was, you had your chats,
you had so many time here.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Now I have to be here, so.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I say, get that buck out the way.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Job Well, I'll tell you the other thing like off
camera because I don't want to spoil nothing too bad.
But man, that part right there, it heals summoning to
me so much, bro, And like like, mister Terrific is
just such a fan like dynamic character because like you
can let me know if I'm wrong about this. But
there's a moment where he talks about like how he
deals with others emotions. Yeah, I was like there's a
little bit of like spectrum in there. It was that
(27:42):
like like something that you baked into the character as well.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I feel like there's a little bit of that DNA
in the uh, in the bones of what the character
is in the comics. You know, he he suffered that
loss with his wife and his onboard child, and that
wound is so deep it doesn't define who he is,
but it definitely informs who he is. So he I
think he has had a hard time opening himself up
to people. He's put all his focus into building tech
(28:07):
and trying to solve the world's problems. So everybody's in
the spectrum, yes, spectrum. Yeah, so he he's just somewhere
on that line, you know, because of his extreme intelligence.
I think it's also hard for him to be around
people because people aren't operating at the level that he's operating.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yes, but yeah, it's like, you know, people forget that
not only is he smart, but this dude is a decatholic.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So like this man like moves fast. He talks fast, like.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
He's fighting his chest. Everything is calculated. You know, he's
thinking five steps ahead of anybody in any situation. He's
solving problems that you don't even know exist in a room.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I love that you.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Were talking about a black genius, s though.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yes and yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It just had me thinking about the gratitude that I
have for being able to portray this role. When I
was reading the script, I couldn't believe that James Gunn
was giving a black man this opportunity. Yeah, you know,
it just felt very It just felt almost risky in
this climate, right right, Oh you know what I mean.
And I was like, I get to do this, this
is this is such love, right, And then it made
(29:08):
me think how important representation it is. Right, because for
anybody who's a fan of me, if you like anything
that I've ever done, you need to understand that I
never would have pursued this line if I hadn't seen
Don Chetel in traffic forty feet projected on the screen.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Black and he black black.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I said, oh, they let us up there now we're
doing this. Get out the way I'm coming, you know,
if I didn't see him, I would never have dared
to dream. Sometimes you need to see it to believe it,
to touch it.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Representation is incredibly important.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Now you know why I get so mad when I
think about Darwin and next men first class. I just
have to say it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
No, it's true.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I just have to say it. Man that Like most
people will see that and say, like, oh, you need
to get over that. It's been since twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I'm like, nah, bro that, but we all do need
to get over that, because this is this is it
pendulum splinging in the opposite direction is there?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
This is the redemption of art set.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
And if you sit through the whole movie you might
get a little something that actually is the full circle moment.
I sat marked as Darwin.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I sat through it. I sat through it, and I
got it. So I got you, all right. So last
question is I know we only got a little bit
of time, Like speaking of first class, like you've been
in a Marvel project, You've been in a DC project.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
You were like in the.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Like right in the pocket of like you know, the
Avengers hadn't happened yet.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Man of Steel was like two years away.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Like, so the DC universe hasn't kicked off yet, so
you're like right in that pocket before this whole thing
blew up. What is it like looking at this whole
like let's say healthy competition now this like comic book
movies arms race between these two studios.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
What do you think when you see that thing happening?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well, it's it's it's interesting because I've always been more
of a Marvel fan, just as a kid, saying and
then and then I was X Men was my dream,
and I was in x Men and then the MCU
kicked off and it was amazing and I became a
fan of that, and I was just into that. Yeah,
But when James took the helm at DC, after what
he did at Marvel, I thought, well, whatever he's gonna
(31:01):
do is it's gonna be interesting to me. So I mean,
I'm not even throwing shade at Marvel. Oh yeah, going
to see the fantastic for it, and I'm excited about
it and I think I'm gonna have a great time.
But what James is doing at DC for me was
so exciting because you know, I can say it. I
feel like DC had nowhere to go but up, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, and I've said this many times.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, and now I think that we're seeing the birth
of a brand new universe. So I think the competition
is just getting started, and I hope it's healthy. It
feels healthy. We just I think that we elevate each other,
just like in a scene with your scene partner, I'm
trying to do my best, so I can elevate you
to do your best, so we can feed off each
other and the audience can have the best time at
(31:44):
the movies. If these corporations work in tandem in that
way and continue elevating each other, then that's great for
movie going audiences. And then maybe one day they're gonna
do a crossover.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah. See.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Look, and last thing I'm gonna say is that you
can look back. It's all documented on all the videos
that I've made. I've said that DC just needs that
DC rebirth. You remember when DC diet, that DC rebirth
in the comics. I'm like they've been needing that rebirth
in the movie universe. And I feel like with this
Superman movie, we finally got it. We got it, And
like I am just so happy for you man, so
happy to see what you're doing after this, Like the
(32:15):
movie's amazing. Like I've been telling everybody and like, seriously, man,
thank you so much for coming on this.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Oh come on.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Ah, look at that my breathend. Listen, man, God damn motherfucker.
This is terrific.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
All right, Well that's it for this episode to get
reck where Straw had Goofy. Guys, I'm here with the
edigittt that you make sure you guys check out Superman
coming out this weekend, this Thursday. You guys are gonna
see it on Thursday. Anyway, everybody's gonna see it like
Thursday night. It's projected to make like almost two hundred
million at the box office, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Man, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
But make sure you guys check out this episode on YouTube,
on substack or Spotify and Apple wherever you watch or
listen to your podcast. I'm straw had Goofy and as always,
can I be your movie guy.
Yo, what's up a medicagy. I play mister Terrific in
the new Superman movie you're watching get Wrecked with my
boy Juju Straw had Goofy. Wake up, Juju, time to
go to work?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
All right? Can we talk about we go.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Back in it, get it?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, wake up back getting that get it that goal
with everyone saying that up next, it's not my father.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
The vocals are goal that making that hit. It so
fucky that my nighbor is a movie the way then that.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Role they saying him.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
People, baby, you know I'm making everybody upset because we the.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
We get and I know we gunning your bread, gunning
your bread, gunning your bread, cunning bread, donning your bread. Bad?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
What's going on? Everybody? It's your boy, Juju Green aka
Straw had Goofy.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
You're a movie guy, and we got a very special
episode here for you today since Superman is coming out
this weekend. We are sitting here with the mister Terrific
Eddie Gathegi of Superman.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
How are we doing, bro, fantastic man. I have to
say fantastic, but I can't say to you.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Can't say you've been trying not to say that.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm trying and everybody says it to me and like
real quick, yeah, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Want to wear that word out.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Man. I hate when you have to like take words
out of your like vocabulary, your daily lexicon.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
I went to Epic Universe and everybody cap asking me, oh,
ho was Epic Universe. I'm like, I'm trying not to
say epic. It's so easy. It's the low Hagen fruit.
So you got to use another word like it was mamaculate,
it was nice, you.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Know, sensational Yeah, sensation, mister fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Yeah, miss that's the whole end that we got that too.
We got that coming.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
We could talk about that too, because I know you're
a big comic fan, comic book movie films, but I'm man,
bro listen, but we don't get into Superman. But first off, man, Like,
the reason why I have this whole podcast is because
I feel like watching movies teaches us a lot about
like who we are. Whenever I talk to somebody, I
go like, Yo, what's your favorite movie? And based off
of what they tell me, I'm like I kind of
got a good idea of like how you think, how
(01:48):
you work, how you came up, and so what I
like to do on this podcast. The reason why it's
called get Wrecked is because I want to learn more
about you. So I want to know first and foremost, like,
what is a movie that changed your brain chemistry that
was like a building block to who Eddie yettak you was?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
You know, it's it's two movies actually.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay, give me talk if it was five, give me five.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
And these movies inadvertently led me to become an actor,
but not at the time that I saw them. It
wasn't until retrospect that I said those were the forming moments, right.
The first one was Last of the Mohicans. Okay, okay,
Danny day Lewis. It was the first time that I'd
seen a movie where I couldn't really articulate why it
was a masterpiece. The technical aspects of it just kind
(02:31):
of took me in. And Danny day Lewis is all immersive,
you know, performance that's you know, that's always gonna.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Of course, I mean as Danny day Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
And then the second movie, it was Friday.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Okay, okay, okay, listen, I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
It was Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
In fact, I went back and I watched Friday like
three months ago, and I hadn't seen it since it
came out, right, you know, back with ninety four.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Yeah, yeah, ninety yeah. Now I want to say ninety five.
I want to sayydn't.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I don't think I even saw it until ninety six.
But I knew every single line.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Oh, bro, I can tell I can thirty years late,
thirty years.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Yeah, I'm like every line was a bar and it
is the most hilarious movie.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Chris Tucker, naturally funny, bro.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
It was just that you were watching the star in
the making. Hu. So I think when I got into acting,
my idea was I want to be Daniel d Lewis
meets Chris Tucker.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That's oh wow, that's a combination right there.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Man.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
I think you've like hit the nail on the head
with that, bro. Like, because when I think of Friday,
like obviously, you know, there's like the comparisons to Clerks, right,
and I feel like Friday is our Clerks. But I
feel like, as someone who grew up in Compton, that
was just like, I'm glad I'm getting a hood movie
that doesn't have like the the like usual black struggle
and it's there's a little bit of struggle, but it's
(03:50):
almost like a natural observant people in the neighborhood type
of thing. Like everybody in Friday I look at, I
can like point to somebody in my pastighborhood that I know, Right,
Eazel was the crackhead tricky that.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I knew in my neighborhood, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Like, I'm like, I know all these people, I know
the folice, I know the debos, and I just always
say that movie is one of the most organically funny
movies that I've ever seen in my life. I love
the other two, but like there's something that about that
first one.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
That first one. I like the other two too, but
the first one is magic.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, and ice Cube wrote that one too, wrote it.
He wrote it like that's like I F Gary Gray
did director? Yes, that was F Carey hold on key
fact check that. I want to say it was f
Gary Gray.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Right, yeah, yeah, and I co write it. He co
wrote it.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, And uh, I remember there's a scene in a
straight out of Content again with DJ it was pooh.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
See see look at ship Brown.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
Come on, you know see this is why this is
how you know it like changes, he said, I'm gonna
like dive all the way into Friday. You know what.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
That movie though, I love them.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Oh my god, Bro, I was too young to be
watching that, but I still watched it and I still
quoted it, Bro, like, oh my gosh. Okay, So I'm
glad you said that. Movies movie movies that did that
for me. And I've said this many times on the podcast,
is movies like Spider Man two. Spider Man two was
like the first movie where I realized what not at
the time, but like I look back on, I'm like
(05:13):
I realized what cinema was at the time, right, Like
you know, usually Spider Man was that guy you saw
on the cartoon, the guy that you read in comic books.
But that was like the first time that they used
a character that I knew that was more about the
everyday life, right, the struggles of what you have to
do versus what you want to do. And I was like,
I can actually see myself in Spider Man, like what
happens when I have to sacrifice in order to be
(05:35):
the best version of myself? And the fact that was
being told through a Spider Man movie through visual effects
that still stand up to this day with like the
first score that I actually was able to be like,
I need to hear this on CD by Danny Elfman.
That movie right there just changed everything for me, and
it just made me like fall in love with movies
that much more. But yeah, Spider Man two, oh, Lord
of the Rings as well. Okay, my grandmother took me
(05:58):
to a screening of Lord of the Rings without telling
me what it was. She used to just take us
to movies that she wanted to see, but she raised
me and my three other brothers, so it was four
of us, and she said, I want to see this movie.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I'm gonna take them.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
To see it because I don't have a babysitter, so
she just kind of took us to see it. And
I remember the ball Rock scene where Gandal says you
shall not pass, and my ten year old brain exploded.
Bro Like I'm talking like what it was like the
first massive, like blockbuster moment that I can remember that
made me go, this is this is like literally like
(06:29):
rechanging my chemistry. As I'm like thinking about it, and
I think back to that moment and I watched that
moment to this day and I'm just like, damn, this
is the reason why we make movies. The power of cinema. Man,
it's the power of cinema. All right, So listen, I
love this question because finding out that you are an
athlete you played basketball in college is ish, but.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, that's that's why I'm an acting. I wasn't
gonna make it as an act.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
But that's the thing though, man, So how long did
you play basketball before you?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
I didn't even play I didn't play high school, Baket.
I didn't play sports in high school at all. I
really I was working and I was focused on, you know,
other things. And then it was my homeboys and said, listen,
you can't graduate without getting the silky stuff.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Okay, okay, I got to.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Get the silky I tried out for the team, but
I hadn't played with them in middle school or any
of the other years in high school, so I didn't
think I was gonna make the team. But I made
the team. But I rolled the bench, but I rode
the bench. I didn't really get that much playing time.
And when I went to college, I just started practicing
and playing and I just I feel like I got
a little good. And then I was a part of
this three point shooting competition some of the players from
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the team and they were like, we need a shooting guard.
You need to try out. So it was in the
trying out that I hurt my knee.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Oh got it, got it, got it. Oh bro.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
See the fact that you just picked it up in college,
Like that sounds a lot like Joel and b to me,
you know what I'm saying, Like you just picked it
up and it was just it sounded like it was
natural to you. Like the fact that the basketball, you
know what I'm saying, Like the fact that somebody told you, hey,
you should probably do this and you actually made the
team without even knowing that you was gonna do it.
I'm impressed by that. Like, I don't know if you
realize how impressive that is. College basketball is no joke.
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And I played basketball like for a huge.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Chunk of my life.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You know, growing up in Confort, you just think that's
all you got. It's either rapping or balling. I have bars,
So I had to do the ball and I didn't
get to college because it got to a point where
I started to realize my love for storytelling and drama.
I had this drama teacher who kind of like a
stand in delivery type of teacher that was like, oh,
I'm gonna teach you more about life. And I did
a couple of plays, I did a couple like uh,
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screenwriting courses and there and then like I was like, Okay,
I think this is what I want to do, and
basketball like kind of feel.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
By the wayside. However, I still a little fun fact
about me.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I went to our teacher in high school, same high
school that James Harden went to. I was a freshman
on the varsity team, riding the bench.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
So I got to you know, like, you know, I
had a little I had a little sub like I
had a little sub. But you know, I still wrote
the bench.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
And but I got to witness James Harden front row
and sell, you know, and I got to say that
I was a contributing factor. By a contributing factor, I
helped them practice. You know what I'm saying, I should
have exactly. You know, I saw it like I witnessed
from the front the most front row of front rows
of them win the state championship.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
And I got myself a little ring off of that.
Oh come on, so you know what I'm saying, like, so,
I I was in there. I was.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
I wasn't in there as much, but I think you're
over here. I'm over here, like I was closer to
the hoot than you were. So, but I wanted to
relate to you with like when it comes because since
you do have basketball experience, you know what it's like
to kind of like go through the dedication it takes
to be an athlete, right, And I just want to know, like,
as an athlete turned actor, how has your experience of
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that dedication like translated into your work as an actor?
Does it translate at all?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
I mean, I don't know which came first, the chicken
or the egg. I feel like the dedication that I
just have as a person helped me get to that
place where I could, you know, try out for the team. Uh,
And I just that folds into the acting. I take
my work very seriously. I'm very focused. The stakes are
very high for me when it comes to the work,
But when it comes to myself, I don't take myself
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that seriously at all. I'm Friday.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, I can tell that too.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Man.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
I listened, I watched so many of your interviews and
I'm just kind of like I can chill with this
dude right here. You really get off that vibe and
like we almost had a whole nother podcast episode before started,
right before this whole thing started. Like we'll probably like
put that like the Bloop of Reels or something like that,
like the Lost Tapes or something like that. But I
just really appreciate, like the work you've been putting in,
and you've been doing it for a long time. And
then but the moment I like perceived you, you know
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what I'm saying. You know, not like there's guys you
see movies and you see another movies You're like, oh,
I know that guy.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I know that guy. But the first time I like
perceived you was obviously Twilight.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
And you know, I wasn't like into the Twilight craze,
but my best friend's little sister was read all the books.
We have to go take her at midnight to see
the movies and whatnot. And I remember you appeared on screen, bro,
and your aps was just shining, Like your abs is
just shining. And I've never seen this was the most
(10:58):
unique theater reaction that I can remember. Is I've heard
so many teenage girls oo god like piece of that
I was like, wait a minute, like he's handsome and everything,
but like that, and then like his sister just leans
in and just says, this is for us, Like can
you talk to me about like your experience being a
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part of like that big franchise and stepping into that
is Like, cause I think you that was like what
your third or fourth.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Movie or something like that, something like that.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
I don't remember where it came in the in the
order of the career, but it wasn't a movie that
I was initially interested in because I read the sides,
and the sides just sounded ridiculous to me, you know, like, uh,
the lines where the humans were the humans are tracking us,
but we led the meast. I went, so we're not
dealing in our world?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yes, what is this?
Speaker 1 (11:47):
Fan wasn't into it right right, right right. And then
a friend of mine at the time, who just graduated
from from a drama school said, this is what we do.
You have to audition for this. So I went in
and I made a tape and then Catherine Hardwick.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Was just a nut right right, Oh gosh.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Jumping on tables and playing the parts of the other characters.
I was like, she's Wold. I mean I might want
to work with.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Kind of liked it though, crazy lady. Yeah uh.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
And then and then I got the job, and then
I read the books, and the books I liked them.
I was a little embarrassed that I liked them. Okay,
I like them because I love love. I love rom
romantic too, and I love Trojan Horse romance stories. This
is a romance romance story. But I love movies that
it's not like Rocky.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, okay, rock get that.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
You know people think that that's a boxing movie to
love story.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah. Absolutely, he's doing it for the woman.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Doing it for the woman. After he loses the fight,
which she miraculously survives.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Questions, where's that where Dreda?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I cry every single time.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Best scene in the movie is when he's laying in
bed with her and he's telling her like I just
want to go to the distance, Like that's it, that's
it all I want. That's the best scene in the
I don't want to be a bum.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
You know that's another get wreck wreck a Rocky Rocky Listen,
Rocky Listen. I think Rocky is the best movie ever made.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
I mean, you're not crazy to say that, You're not
and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, because it's not just that the movie is perfect.
It's the story behind the movie. Okay, it's what Sylvester
Stallone had to endure. Yeah, the selling of his dog,
the small budget, then wanting him out, offering him tons
of money, him saying no, I want to be the
star of it, just bankrupt like that. The story behind
the story is beautiful, it's crazy, it's so inspiring. It's
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why everybody wants to be a writer director now because
he did that. Then it's the story that everybody hopes
to have.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Like it's the reason why people come to Hollywood with
like five dollars in their pocket and they say that
I got this script, like hopefully, like I can be
the next Rocky, I could be the next Syvesters, you
know what I'm saying. And I feel like I'm gonna
take it a step further because you say that's one
of the best movies ever made. I think Shaw Shank
Redemption might be like up there, like right, it's one
of my four movies I consider perfect.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I'll tell you the four later on.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
But I think that Rocky could very well be one
of the best like franchises ever and it really shouldn't be, right,
Like usually when you have like sports franchises, they kind
of wear themselves out by like the third, fourth movie
or something like that. Rocky for is my favorite one.
It's my favorite of the Rocky franchise. Then, were to
talk about like the continuation or spinoffs to whatever you
want to call it. Creed is like for me, that.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And Rocky, you know what I'm saying there right up there,
that's right up there, and so and then the fact
that you have Sevestas stillone nominated for Best Actor and
Rocky then he comes back doesn't increate nominated for Best
Supporting Actor.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
It's like, these are the ingredients to make like a
great franchise that the person who is a part of
it from the beginning is still like very much in
it and loves it and like wants to keep doing
more of this, and then passing the baton off to
give like rise to someone like Ryan Coogler to do
something great with it.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
It's incredible.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
My other three perfect movies, right, and I'm gonna give
you some Rex here right now. So I already said
Stashing Redemption perfect movie, right. Tim Robbins should have been
nominated for best actor in that movie as well.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Then you got et a movie that could take me
through the end. Again, I told you, I'm an emotional
movie watcher. Takes me through the entire emotional sp I
feel everything when I was a child, Yes, of course,
and that's it, you know, emotion, fear. But it's that
scene when they're flying both times over the moon. I'm
like this again. The reason why movies are made. The
John Williams score and.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
The visuals are the most stunning. In that moment they
did let a little ride it or show at Universe Studios. Kid.
My parents took me and they chose me to go
up and be on the bicycle.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
See, and I thought I was Elliott School and I said,
I'm in.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
I love that. I love that. I love that.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Also, I'm not I bring this up to anybody who
will listen. An underrated thing that I love about that
movie is that Steven Spielberg does this very subtle thing
to get you to trust the children the most, and
everyone except for the mother for at least the until
the last like ten minutes, all the adults either have
their faces obscured or the shot from the waist down
you never see an adult's face throughout that entire film.
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It doesn't even matter if it's like a wide shot,
like even that scene during Halloween where the parents are
walking their kids, they're still in like silhouette and you
only see the kids.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I feel like I haven't seen the movie since I
was a kid. But this is why it got us, Yes,
because the adults don't exist. We are in there with
it feels like through his field what I'm saying and
connecting on that level with the child and that and
it's that we see ourselves in him and that's like
subtle ways to just put us in those shoes that like,
I feel like people don't understand until they like really
dive deep.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
So et perfect movie. Like we can go on and
on about that number three it's called Her.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Oh this is Spike Jones.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Spike Jones, Joaquin Phoenix Schall, Joe Hansson and sci fi. Yes, sir, bro,
that's my favorite movie of all time, all the time, Bro.
I think that movie is perfect, from its cinematography to
its music arkde Fire Kills, the score in that one Man,
Scara Joel Hansson, her acting or just her voice, disembodied voice,
like you just feel so much emotion and pain and
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curiosity in it, and like I just I melt every
time she talks.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
There's a scene, there's a scene.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
And like, I'm not gonna to you like like like
you know, I was getting I was getting a scar
drol hands and fatigue at the time because she was
in Avengers and then she you know, she was in
the Iron Man two. She did Lucy at the time
as well. And at this point, I'm thinking, Okay, she's everywhere,
like I need a break from scar Joe. Just give
me the voice.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Just give me but the voice.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Right, I was like I heard her and like she
just kind of like rely like flipped something in my
brain that I was like, I love Scargoe all over again.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (17:23):
It was such a different performance for her, and she
didn't have to do anything physical. I don't know what
she's doing in the move, but that voice. I was like,
I just feel so much coming from this and her
chemistry with Joaquin Phoenix, who's acting by himself most of
the time because he's just talking to her. That just
made me fall in love with music. It's a it's
a love story, but an unconventional love story because he's
in love with his like SERI or like whatever, but
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it tells it uses AI to kind of like tell
this more human story of like connection, what is actual emotion,
Like do we feel there's Oh, there's I don't want
to get too much into it because that would be
a whole noother podcast. But there's this scene where he's
in the bed and he's talking to her on the phone.
He's talking about like his marriage that like kind of
like went away, and he saying that he's afraid to
feel anything after his marriage because he thinks there're just
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gonna be lesser versions of things that he's already felt, right,
And he's talking to an AI that is trying to
understand what the feeling is, and she comes back with
I had all these emotions that was happiness of me
feeling something like fear that these feelings and then fear
that these feelings were just programming, right, And I was
just kind of like these are concepts that like I
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like like, I'm just like WHOA like this? It's like
it's really taking me down this rabbit hole. So so
much depth, man, And then yeah, so I could talk
about that movie all day.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
And then last movie, are you.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
An anime, not as not as much as someone I know.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Someone in here is in anime, just Grace is in anime.
But so there's this anime film. I really please, I
want you to watch this, like, please find it rented,
do what you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
It's called your name. Okay, look at her, look listening.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
I really want to put your top four. These are
my top four perfect films.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Right. I see this film. I reckon in this film.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Nobody has told me that these movies, that this movie
is not good, that they don't like this movie. It's
essentially a body swap romantic comedy. It's about these two kids,
ones in Tokyo, ones out in the Boonies in Japan,
and randomly they switch bodies like two or three times
a week and they don't know why.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Right, And that's all I'm going to say.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
There's a twist in the midsection that flips the whole
movie on its head and makes it even more beautiful.
But the score is so good. But this is a
great story. You know, it's a great story, right.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I feel like you can put that story in any
live action it's gonna be done.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
And honestly, if they did a live action I'll be
the first in line to see it. But the score
is so great that two days after seeing it, I
went and bought a piano because I said, I have
to allow I.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Have to learn a new skill in order to play
the score.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
And now I could play like a little song from
the movie because I'm that obsessed with The animation is
some of the most sublime animation that I've ever seen
in my life. This again, the story, the way it
flips on its head is just it's just a beautiful story.
So your name lock it in, Please, your name, you
to watch it. See we got it. We got here
from Friday. How crazy is that?
Speaker 2 (20:01):
That's what That's what this is all about.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Man, that's what this is all speaking of Chris Tucker
The Dead Presidents. Man.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Okay, okay, see that's the huge budes.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Yeah, that that movie is is one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Okay, I need to you know what, I'm gonna write
that down because I actually haven't seen that President, Dead President,
So I'm actually locked in it.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Yes, I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. I've
heard so much.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
You got to see that for the culture.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
B Okay that yeah, you got to see it.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
For the culture.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Certain, there's certain.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
It's like you're saying you didn't see the color purple
or something. Yeah, sometimes we just have to take a
moment and be like.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah, dead president's president.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
You gotta watch it.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Don't worry. I saw both color purples. I saw both
of them. All right.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
So next question, Man, So I loved how you describe
being a part of this project. Every time I see
you talk about being in Superman like, you talk about
how excited you are. But there was one moment in
particular where you said that the amount of joy is
hard to describe being in such an iconic project as this,
but you said the best way you could describe it
is that it's the intersection betwe terror and bliss.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yes, can you.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Give me like a moment working on this film when
you felt extreme terror in another moment where you felt
extreme bliss.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
I mean I felt I felt a combination of those
two things many times in this process, Like when when
the possibility of joining this production veils itself to you,
it's terror and bliss.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Man, No, I get it.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
You know. I feel like I'm very very happy with
my career and I've kind of, you know, been able
to do high level work, but you know, skating underneath
the radar, and I didn't know that I was ready
to be a part of something that could potentially change
that for me. But then also it's a wonderful opportunity.
You'd be a fool not to take advantage, of course.
So it's just I mean, it's just been different iterations
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of this is the most amazing thing possible for an
artist and an actor. I love CBMs, comic book movies.
I just I love them. I love cinema. I love
them so much. So I'm so excited to be like
a part of that, and I've gotten to do it
twice now, yeah, you know, yeah, But at the same time,
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you know, it's it's it's scary because there's a lot
of responsibility. You know, people are diehard fans for these
things and they're watching it like a hawk.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
Yeah you know what I mean, especially this one in particular.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
But the good news is I think James is a
master storyteller, you know what I mean. He put his
whole heart into it. At the end of the day,
that's all you can do, you know, if you make
something with love, then it's up to everybody else to
interpret what that.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
Is, You're not always done. He always does that too. Yeah,
I get what you're saying. I think we've like adopted
like an unofficial, kind of like catch phrase whenever we
find out that James gun is attached to something, and
that's a James and James Gunn we trust Yeah, right,
Because I said this after watching Superman. I don't think
the man is capable of making a bad movie.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Do you know why? Because this man has a reverence
for every aspect of filmmaking. He loves story, he loves actors,
he loves the set designer. Yes, he loves the wardrobe.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
He loves music. We love that music.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
He loves every aspect of this art form. And through
that love, it's hard. I mean, Quentin Tarantino says that
it's hard to make a bad movie. Yes, and you
approach something with that much love, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Love that and quit Tarantino's my favorite director of all time. So, like,
I'm fully aware of that quote.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Don't trust in James Gunn the moment he becomes cynical,
or the moment that he stops caring, you know what
I mean, I don't think that that's gonna happen in
his lifetime because he has so much of it. Yeah,
he's very passionate. Now he's running the studio, So we're
gonna get a lot of iterations of different stories. Hopefully
we get mister Terrific and different expressions.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
I'm waiting for that, man, I'm waiting for that.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
Like, and let's dive more into mister Terrific, bro, because
like you know, it's a I'm not like the most
die hard comic book fan, Like I feel like I'm
a casual one, but like I retain a lot of information, okay,
and so like in my comic book travels, like you know,
you come across mister Terrific and you hear like the katholic,
third smartest man in the world, right, and you just
want to see somebody on screen, which we've got like
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an Justice League Unlimited Justice stuff like that. Arrow was
like the most recent live action one that we've gotten,
but like to see him on the big screen. You
it's like you can't help but want to see him
appear in other things. And the way you play this character,
I think you're a standout in this movie, right, No, Bro,
Like my publicist called me and he was like, oh,
you're gonna be really excited to get Eddie on your podcast.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
I was like, I'm already am.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
He says no, but he has like a big role
in this and I know how much like you love him.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I was like, okay, cool, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
We'll see watch the movie and you have like probably
not that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Sorry, I cussed on my own thing. That's my own thing.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I look at I look to you guys, because like
sometimes we get the call like can we cut that up?
But this DC, we can do it.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Bro, you have the best action.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That ship.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Miss it terrific, goddamn it.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
The sequel fair play.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Listen, I want to see that. I want to see that,
and I'll merch that. Listen, DC, you watch him. Got
a guy to get the merch for you, baby, I'll
do it. I'll get it. But I do think that
you have the best action sequence in the film. And like,
listen as a black man seeing that, bro, like.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like hat you nod over here too? Hat soft bro?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Like yeah, no, I was just gonna say, I saw
it last night. I got it, caught a screening last night, man, Yeah,
And exactly, I was gonna say, we didn't get a
chance to sync up before this because we usually run
through it.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
But yeah, absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
So the thing but the thing that so we've gotten
like black geniuses and like film before. Yeah, but what
strikes me about mister terrific is that he's so unapologetic
about it, right, like that line that you say, Man, god,
I'm it's a terrific God damn it. And it's like
in a world where black men, black people, black men
especially are like tone policed and told to like humble yourself,
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as Kendrick Lamar says.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Like to see that character's been. Man, I'm the smartest
motherfucker in this room.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Like you get out the way, Like, please tell me
how good it felt to like embody that character, Like
tell that you gotta walk me through being able to
push somebody out the way and be like miss a terrific.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Goddamn it.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Oh that's so funny. I'm gonna answer that question. But
just because you said the push, I'm gonna tell you
this little funny story there was there was there was
a push in that moment, and because of what you're saying,
I went up to the actor beforehand. I said, listen,
I need you to do me a favor, and you
don't have to do this, but I'm gonna ask you anyways.
I'm gonna mush your face and he was like yeah, yeah,
(26:30):
and I go, it's better to ask for forgiveness than
for permission, so I'd rather right, and I'm letting you know,
so you know, we roll the scene, I mush's face
and I'm waiting James cut do it again. I'm sitting
there now, I'm mushing his face out the way. Goddamn,
(26:52):
this is terrific.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I'm sorry because that bush heals something in my soul
what I saw. I can help you out because I
would listen, listen.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I don't want to get too much of the spoils,
but this specific character, I'm like, Bro, you can place it.
You a lap dog and you over here thinking that
you got everything sold up. I was, you had your chats,
you had so many time here.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Now I have to be here, so.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
I say, get that buck out the way.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Job Well, I'll tell you the other thing like off
camera because I don't want to spoil nothing too bad.
But man, that part right there, it heals summoning to
me so much, bro, And like like, mister Terrific is
just such a fan like dynamic character because like you
can let me know if I'm wrong about this. But
there's a moment where he talks about like how he
deals with others emotions. Yeah, I was like there's a
little bit of like spectrum in there. It was that
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like like something that you baked into the character as well.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I feel like there's a little bit of that DNA
in the uh, in the bones of what the character
is in the comics. You know, he he suffered that
loss with his wife and his onboard child, and that
wound is so deep it doesn't define who he is,
but it definitely informs who he is. So he I
think he has had a hard time opening himself up
to people. He's put all his focus into building tech
(28:07):
and trying to solve the world's problems. So everybody's in
the spectrum, yes, spectrum. Yeah, so he he's just somewhere
on that line, you know, because of his extreme intelligence.
I think it's also hard for him to be around
people because people aren't operating at the level that he's operating.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Yes, but yeah, it's like, you know, people forget that
not only is he smart, but this dude is a decatholic.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
So like this man like moves fast. He talks fast, like.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
He's fighting his chest. Everything is calculated. You know, he's
thinking five steps ahead of anybody in any situation. He's
solving problems that you don't even know exist in a room.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, you know, yeah, I love that you.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
Were talking about a black genius, s though.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Yes and yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It just had me thinking about the gratitude that I
have for being able to portray this role. When I
was reading the script, I couldn't believe that James Gunn
was giving a black man this opportunity. Yeah, you know,
it just felt very It just felt almost risky in
this climate, right right, Oh you know what I mean.
And I was like, I get to do this, this
is this is such love, right, And then it made
(29:08):
me think how important representation it is. Right, because for
anybody who's a fan of me, if you like anything
that I've ever done, you need to understand that I
never would have pursued this line if I hadn't seen
Don Chetel in traffic forty feet projected on the screen.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
Black and he black black.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
I said, oh, they let us up there now we're
doing this. Get out the way I'm coming, you know,
if I didn't see him, I would never have dared
to dream. Sometimes you need to see it to believe it,
to touch it.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Representation is incredibly important.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Now you know why I get so mad when I
think about Darwin and next men first class. I just
have to say it.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
No, it's true.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
I just have to say it. Man that Like most
people will see that and say, like, oh, you need
to get over that. It's been since twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I'm like, nah, bro that, but we all do need
to get over that, because this is this is it
pendulum splinging in the opposite direction is there?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
This is the redemption of art set.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
And if you sit through the whole movie you might
get a little something that actually is the full circle moment.
I sat marked as Darwin.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
I sat through it. I sat through it, and I
got it. So I got you, all right. So last
question is I know we only got a little bit
of time, Like speaking of first class, like you've been
in a Marvel project, You've been in a DC project.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
You were like in the.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Like right in the pocket of like you know, the
Avengers hadn't happened yet.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Man of Steel was like two years away.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
Like, so the DC universe hasn't kicked off yet, so
you're like right in that pocket before this whole thing
blew up. What is it like looking at this whole
like let's say healthy competition now this like comic book
movies arms race between these two studios.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
What do you think when you see that thing happening?
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Well, it's it's it's interesting because I've always been more
of a Marvel fan, just as a kid, saying and
then and then I was X Men was my dream,
and I was in x Men and then the MCU
kicked off and it was amazing and I became a
fan of that, and I was just into that. Yeah,
But when James took the helm at DC, after what
he did at Marvel, I thought, well, whatever he's gonna
(31:01):
do is it's gonna be interesting to me. So I mean,
I'm not even throwing shade at Marvel. Oh yeah, going
to see the fantastic for it, and I'm excited about
it and I think I'm gonna have a great time.
But what James is doing at DC for me was
so exciting because you know, I can say it. I
feel like DC had nowhere to go but up, you know.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, and I've said this many times.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, and now I think that we're seeing the birth
of a brand new universe. So I think the competition
is just getting started, and I hope it's healthy. It
feels healthy. We just I think that we elevate each other,
just like in a scene with your scene partner, I'm
trying to do my best, so I can elevate you
to do your best, so we can feed off each
other and the audience can have the best time at
(31:44):
the movies. If these corporations work in tandem in that
way and continue elevating each other, then that's great for
movie going audiences. And then maybe one day they're gonna
do a crossover.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah. See.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Look, and last thing I'm gonna say is that you
can look back. It's all documented on all the videos
that I've made. I've said that DC just needs that
DC rebirth. You remember when DC diet, that DC rebirth
in the comics. I'm like they've been needing that rebirth
in the movie universe. And I feel like with this
Superman movie, we finally got it. We got it, And
like I am just so happy for you man, so
happy to see what you're doing after this, Like the
(32:15):
movie's amazing. Like I've been telling everybody and like, seriously, man,
thank you so much for coming on this.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Oh come on.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Ah, look at that my breathend. Listen, man, God damn motherfucker.
This is terrific.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
All right, Well that's it for this episode to get
reck where Straw had Goofy. Guys, I'm here with the
edigittt that you make sure you guys check out Superman
coming out this weekend, this Thursday. You guys are gonna
see it on Thursday. Anyway, everybody's gonna see it like
Thursday night. It's projected to make like almost two hundred
million at the box office, which is crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:45):
Man, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
But make sure you guys check out this episode on YouTube,
on substack or Spotify and Apple wherever you watch or
listen to your podcast. I'm straw had Goofy and as always,
can I be your movie guy.
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