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Straw Hat and his good friend Cameron both give their Oscar predictions and couldn't be more different!

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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And we are here with another episode of get recklesstraw
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Speaker 1 (00:41):
My good friend Cameron Rudin. Is it Rudine yea, Oh
my gosh, my whole life. Yeah, with Accacy you're at
You're a good buddy of mine and I feel like
I never knew how your name was pronounced. It's all good.
But my boss for like two years he calls me
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(01:01):
you hearing this for the first time?

Speaker 4 (01:03):
I mean, to be fair, like I've had like really
good friends in high school. They didn't know my actual
name until we graduated and they called my name on
the stage, So.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
You know, it's it happens like when you hear Juju
a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
Julian just kind of sounds foreign to the years. But
we got a pretty good episode for you guys today.
As you guys know, at the time of this recording
or at the time this is posted, the Oscars will
be tomorrow, and there's a lot to talk about when
it comes to the Oscars, right like you know, predictions
like how the show's gonna go, where the show's been
like in terms of ratings and stuff like that. Absolutely performances, performances,

(01:33):
you know what I'm saying, Like it's it's won't get
all into it, but we're gonna put in our predictions.
We're gonna talk about who we think is gonna win,
what the performances are gonna be, and like just what
to expect. But before we get into all of that,
I will have you guys know that this is a
first for a lot of this episode. There's a lot
of first happening right now because this as you can see,
we got a new space. This is the like we're

(01:56):
ninety eighty what would you say, Greg, like like eighty
percent look of the space that we're going to be in.
So get used to this look. Not too used to
it because we're gonna add some more stuff into it.
But for the most part, the color, the chairs, the ferns.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
This is the look.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
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And I'm really excited about it.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
It's a damn good look.

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I s with it a lot, a new thing, and
I'm really excited to announce this. We are on substack
now and this will be the first episode to launch
on substack.

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is a launch episode. I would have shaved if I
knew it was a launch O. So not like nerdy
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Speaker 4 (02:40):
Put you on this launch episode because what your voice
is Buttery, Oh thank you. And so if you want
to draw people in, we want people to think that
you're going to be here all the time, which.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
You can if you want.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
You have so you know, whenever we get the ratings
that dip, we'll just have you come in and then
put the buttery smooth voice on it, because we know
how much people love your boys. You know, me and
my girlfriend still coach you. By the way, when we
were at that party, we still coaching he that is.
It was a great party. It was a you know,
we hung out for my birthday and it was like
really really cool, beautiful house. It was a great house.
Like you just had Baltzo's Pizza and played Super Smash Bros.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
And Mario Kart. So it's a nice chill time. It
was a great chill time.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
But yeah, so if you guys know about suf Stack,
make sure you download that app.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
You can find me on there.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
There's a lot of content that's free, but there will
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Speaker 1 (03:28):
And I know how that sounds scary. Paying things do
sound scary? What things you got behind the paywall? Did
you got channel? You gotta pay for it to find out? Man,
maybe we got some stuff happening in this episode that
you got you know what I'm saying. Hit the link
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Speaker 4 (03:43):
But in all seriousness, make sure you guys get substacked
so you can find some more great episodes. It's gonna
be really cool, also a more production value. More that
we have a private chat in there going as well
that I will be talking on so you we can
talk together on the private chat about the podcast, about
the Oscars at is happening. Well, there's a lot of
good stuff happening and result of like the subsack there

(04:04):
because we're CAAA signed now. Like I would like to
say we're making the big bucks. We're not yet, but
they trust me to make some big bucks in the future.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
So you know, just I'm gonna start charging. That's what
the paywall is for. But that is what we're doing here.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
So we're launching this episode with a cool Oscar pre
show and to get started, I want to ask you camera, like,
what has your experience been with the Oscars over the
last few years. Do you have like a favorite one?
Do you have like like thoughts on what the ratings
are like? Let me know what your relationship with the
Oscars are.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I had a fantastic time last year because it was
during south By when we first met Yep, an actor
of my and who had directed prior. He calls me up,
he goes, hey, we're having an Oscars party. I said, absolutely,
so I'll walk on over there and just work close.
Everyone else is dressed to the nines. I'm like, oh
no on the great spot. But his girlfriend she was
an extra and Killers of the Flower Moon. Okay, so

(04:56):
we had this pact where every time Killers of the
Flower Moon didn't win award, we do a shot.

Speaker 4 (05:01):
You did ale shots because they were nominated for a
lot of awards of it.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
And they didn't win a single one of them. Yeah,
but I had a great time. Moments of Lucidity that
I'm just ken performance were beautiful. The moments of Lucidy,
Oh yeah, I had a lovely time. Last year's Oscar.
I like how I said, like, how do you feel
about the Oscars? I got drunk as fuck us killed
the flower Mood didn't win shit, So that's one way
to look at it. Drink to that are sparkling water. Yeah,

(05:26):
and it turned this away from camera. We got the
sponsor from a just turned that away. Kroger is gonna
come after us during this whole thing. Well for me,
like man like the Oscars, Like I love the Oscars.
I love It's like kind of like my benchmark thing.
Like every year it's a great celebration. Industry.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
We love great celebration of film, like you know, cinema, actors, directors,
you know, everything that we love about it. It's all there,
and like you know, you and I are part of
you know, a small collection of people because you know,
usually when we talk to our friends who are outside
of this, they go, oh, I haven't heard of any
of these nominees. The Oscars aren't really my thing. No
catch highlights after the fact.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Absolute they'll catch the YouTube shorts of Will Smith slapping
Chris Rock and then the window, but they didn't see
it live like I did. I saw it with my
eyes that I was there, and yeah, that was that
was that was the thing after I did, I was there.
I was there.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
That was my first Oscars that I've ever been to,
and it was the most iconic moment in the Oscar history.
And you know what screw Before we get into the
predictions and everything, let me tell you the story of
being in the room when it happened. All right, I
was I was Aaron Burr's ambition. So the way it
worked was like obviously we know that the Oscars are

(06:41):
very staged.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
You know, they have everything kind of planned.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Down to the tee to the jokes, to the bits,
to everything, And so when I saw Will Smith get
up and smack Chris Rock, I was like, first off,
first thing out of my mouth. Oh that's very cute.
They added a sound effect to that slap.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
How cool?

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Literally did I know that was real? It was very real.
So again, we all thought it was a joke. Everyone
in the room thought it was a joke. Everyone's kind
of like giggling and laughing because we all thought like
the rest.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Of the night was a bit. But then we hear get.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
My wife's name out your fucking mouth, and.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
We were like, Okay, it's still part of the bit
because there's still kind of like some chatter. You kind
of just hear it over the chatter.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
When Chris Rock asked him to do it again, it
was the second time that made you go, oh shit,
because I can guarantee you if you were outside of
the arena, you probably could have heard him say that.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
That's how clear he was. And that's when the whole
room it was addiction, absolutely, and and that's when everyone
was like, oh, this might actually be a real thing.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
And what was the nail in the coffin was Chris
Frock's reaction of let's hear the nominees, and.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
Then because the nominees, I believe Questlove won the Oscar
for Best Documentary in that moment.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
And then it cuts to commercial and what I saw
I'll never forget. Actors got up from their seats and
they're crisscrossing off from one table to the next.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
They're talking. It's loud. People where I'm sitting are whipping
out their phones and dah da da da da. I'm
looking at the person next.

Speaker 4 (08:15):
To me, this lovely lady from Lionsgate by the way,
and she goes, oh my god, what just happened? And
I was like, I think we just saw Will Smith
lose an Oscar, and like I'm tweeting it.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
It's too late, man.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
But so then after that, like in mind you, amongst
all this chaos that's happening, you see a woman with
no hair lex crossed, just staring at the chaos like
the villain that caused it. And you know who that
person was, Jada Pikett Smith. She's great and collateral like,
and I'm not calling her a villain in this sense.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
I want to make that very clear, but it really
was like everyone else just went into haier mode and
she's just like unbothered. Like jud Appatat tweeted afterwards, it's
like he could he killed. It's a slap man. I
love jumming Upatowel, but like.

Speaker 4 (09:06):
Showing a little bit right there, bro So and then
But what happened afterwards was something that I'll also never forget.
What happened afterwards was I go to the restroom like
this is during the when they're announcing best Picture, and
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
I don't need to see best Picture. I don't need
to be in the room for that.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
I gotta pee to be in the room for I
was like I need to peep man, and like I
was like I.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Could watch it on the screen outside, like he's fine.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Plus the rush when you like get out because there's
a lot of people there and I don't want to
be caught in that rush. So I was like, yea,
I'm just trying to get to whatever after party. I'm
just gonna be outside chilling. I'll sip this, right. But
I go to the bathroom and I'm washing my hands
and this guy comes out the stall and he's washing
his hands next to me, right, and he goes so
about that slap.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Hunh, And I'm like, I know right. So, like we're.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
Gabbing right, like two teenage like girls in the bathroom, like,
oh yeah, it was crazy. And as soon as we
start gabbing, we hear another guy come out the stall.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Oh I know, right.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
In a bathroom discussing this slap. And then you know,
soon enough, the other guy like kind of leaves and
it's just me and the first guy and we're just
sitting there and then Kevin, I guess at this point,
my hands are clean, you know, clean up the will Smith. Anyway,
he was already out, he was already but like we
were just kind of talking about whatever, and then he

(10:22):
starts asking me, like what I do?

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I said, yeah, man, like I was hired by TikTok.

Speaker 4 (10:25):
I was hosting the Oscars on the red carpet for
TikTok And I was like, what do you do? And
he just goes, I'm a part of stage security. And
I was like, so, what are the Oscars looking like
next year? And he says, I'm gonna be honest with you, brother,
We're gonna have to build a fucking motor around that
damn thing. And I was like, you know what, I'm saying,

(10:49):
I was like, good luck with that man. So that
was probably my most viscial reaction to the Oscars. Like
so like I will always have that memory. I'm grateful
for that memory. Not grateful for Chris Rock getting slopped,
but like in.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
A weird way, just being a part in a weird way,
grateful got it, grateful for it, you know. So that's
my last I think we crucified Will Smith too much
for that. Go watch hitch Good movie. There you go
much better.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Yeah, all right, So we have a lot to talk
about because there was a lot of nominations, obviously, because
there's a lot of categories, and we're gonna give our predictions,
and I feel like we can make a game out
of this.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Let's do it.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
So you know, we're gonna run through each category, right,
and we're gonna just talk about some of the nominees
and then when I, you know, give you a one, two, three,
we'll say our picks at the same time.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
All right, all right, that sound good.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
So let's start with actor in a leading role.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
All right, do you have your notes? I got some
notes here, all right, so I face away from me.
I think I selected my favorites.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
All right, So right now, actor in the leading role,
we have Adrian Brody for the Brutalist, Timothy Chalamey for
a complete unknown, Coleman Domingo for sing sing. The only
nomination for sing sing in an acting category.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
That's not a best song, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Well, I'm telling you an acting category, like yeah, I
believe it was like nominated for well, we'll see it
like later on. Yeah, but uh, we'll get into it.
In the supporting actor category, Ray Fines from Conclave or
very own Botimore, He'll always be Votimore to me. Uh,
in Sebastian stan for The Apprentice for playing Donald Trump,
So listen, Coleman Domingo and sing saying it's like fantastic,

(12:24):
a lot of heart in that performance. I don't think
he's the best performance in the movie. I think Divine
I Clarence, he is the star of that movie. To
agree with you, and like the fact that he wasn't
nominated in a bet.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
There are a bunch of snubs here that we'll get
into it. We'll get we'll get into it.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
We'll get into our snubs. But I think this category
is very much stacked. I feel like the person who's
gonna rise to the top is like kind of been
sweeping the award season so far. So I'm very curious
when I hit this one, two three, what's your pick
for it?

Speaker 5 (12:57):
Is?

Speaker 1 (12:57):
All right, you want my favorite out of these performances
or I pick for it.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
How about we'll get your pick for it and then
I'll hear your favorite. Alright, right, so I'm accounted three
and then we got this Okay, one, two three?

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Was that? Is that your pick to win? That's my pick? Really?
Oh dude, I'm kind of betting on a Conclave sleep here.
Really if I were a betting man, I'm not gambling.
I don't know if you have gambling sponsorships on this podcast. Yeah,
but they're coming, okay.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Okay, so wait, so wait, So I know Conclave has
had like a lot of success in the BAFTA category, right,
like when it came to the BAFTAs, has it been
really getting a lot of love like this whole season?

Speaker 1 (13:33):
You think? So? It's one of the best constructed movies
of the year. Okay. Edward Burger who directed it, he
did All Quiet on the Western Front that was last year.
Incredible movie. Yeah, great turnaround time halts on the two
of them, Yes, sir, and this one felt that was
already well put together movie. This one just felt fantastic. Okay,
it was of the most fun I've had in the

(13:54):
movie here this year, which I did, which I did
not expect on a movie about electing a new pope.
That's what I was saying, movie about popes, mean girls.
It was lovely. I describe it as that too, Vatican
mean girls. It's a lot of drama when it comes
to this whole selection of the pope. It's like, oh, yeah,
this guy like has a secret girlfriend. Like this person
is like like like like scheming behind the scenes and

(14:15):
get somebody else out what this guy's trying to bribe
people committing simony.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
I don't know what simony was until I saw this movie.

Speaker 1 (14:23):
I was like, well, I know a little more about
the Catholic Church. It's a lot.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
I mean, we knew the one thing for movies like, uh,
what's the movie with a Mark Ruffalo, Michael Keaton, Rachel
McAdams like Spotlight. Spotlight, Like that's the most that I
knew about like the Catholic Church. And then I was like, oh,
symphony's part of this too. We can add some more
have some more corruptions to it.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
But I you know, I love that.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
You're talking about Conclave in this manner because like I
always thought Conclave was.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Just like that quote unquote Oscar bait movie. You know,
you're full of Oscar bait movies. It is very style.
It's just one of the best put together movies I've
seen this year.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Okay, okay, see I say, see, I'm going off of
like logic here, and I'm saying, like the Brutalist because
like the brutalless is gonna get a lot of love
like that, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Crazy? He made that thing for what ten million dollars And.

Speaker 4 (15:12):
I think I'm I think because there's this whole conversation
around AI, like you know, Hollywood's very sensitive to it,
as you know.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
And then there was like didn't Hungarian actor or is
Magyar accent?

Speaker 4 (15:23):
They said his accent was so authentic they needed to
use AI to like make us understand it, which.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
I'm like, either that either hurts the performance. I thought
it was full of the actual Hungarian language. Portion was
it the language agent?

Speaker 4 (15:34):
Well, they were saying it was for Agent Brodie's like
like accent as well, because they said we needed to
understand him and we couldn't understand him.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
I feel like that's long you gotta do on set there,
I mean, gotta be a director choice. That is true. Okay, wrong,
My great grandmother had a very thick Magyar accent. My
grandma had a very slat one. Mm hm. You still
make out what they're saying? Can I make out any
words of Magyar? Heck no, it's like finish if not
born there, you never want to learn it, right, But
uh yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:59):
Man, But I'm saying like when it comes to like
Adrian Brody and like this whole AI conversation, it's like,
because you use AI to clean up the language and
like to help you understand him.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
And clean the performance. And that's why I don't.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
But that's the thing, like, and I think that's the split,
is like, is that going to stop you from liking
the performance? Do you think that's something that like boost
this boost his performance? Or is it impressive that he
did do an accent so authentic it needed to be
cleaned up?

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Well?

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Right, So I feel like, but I feel like Hollywood like,
or at least the large majority of the award shows
are leaning into it's a great as accent, like the
fact that you need it.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
So I just want to I want a correction on that. Okay,
So they used Respeecher and what they wanted to do
is help perfect his Hungarian pronunciation. So they smoothed out
his pronunciation.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
From there.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
Yeah, because when they were doing the edit, there was
a native Hungarian speaker and that speaker could hear that
this was not of Hungarian being spoken, So they used
respeecher to help enhance the pronunciation. Okay, that's where That's
where it came in, and that's why it's so controversial.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
But that but again that goes into like they used
respeecher to fix his performance then for lack of a better.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Word, and doing so, and that only came out in
the last few weeks, gret.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Fixing or enhancing, because I think that's.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Where I think either way it damages. Yeah, I think
it damages the performance a little bit because if your
performance needs to be fixed or enhanced, it means that
you're getting a boost, like you know, a performance enhancing
type of thing.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
So but no, you're wrong. Our performance is always going
to be enhanced. Absolutely little but you got the sound
guy back there. But the case where they're just in
this pronunciation and whatnot, I don't think it's really something
that needed to do. Yeah, and especially if it's hurting
his award chances. But also he already has the Best
Actor Award. He was the youngest Best Actor winner in history.
He's twenty nine. When they made the pianos throwing plant skin, Yeah, yeah,

(17:58):
you say.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
That the phoenis now's penis, right, it's penis like. I
laughed at it when I was younger, and they said no,
but that's actually it's penis. Like I still laugh at it.
I'm a big child. Okay, but okay, so you said
that was your choice. But who is your favorite to
win Best Actor?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
My favorite out of these performances, I might I might
go Coleman Domingo.

Speaker 4 (18:19):
Commingo. Colemen Domingo is like my favorite too and my
heart of hearts. That's who I want to win, and
I think we can like go down.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
With it best supporting last year on American Fiction. Wait,
was that American fiction or was that like a different
I think it's for American Fiction life. We get a
fact check on that because Comen Domingo was not an
American fiction you think of Sterling entirely.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
He was nominated last year, so like I can't remember
what movie he was nominated for last year. Russ rust rust, Rusting, Rusting.
I believe it's rusting. Give me a fact check, Like
my movie guy Brain is like, yes, you do, it's rusting.
Believe yourself.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
But I think it was like called rusting.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Or something like yeah, all right, so yeah, I think
we're in agree and that like if we have to
choose between all of these, like Comen.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Domingo at the very least to sing.

Speaker 4 (19:04):
Sing like some love and things like that, I think
like a runner up should be like Timothy Shallam. I
think his Bob Dylan was like fantastic.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah he could have used the cleanup software because I
can never tell what Dylan's saying. Yeah, it is fantastic
because I can't tell what's real Dylan that. But but
I Doug that.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
I was like, he seems so mysterious. He's a complete unknown,
you know it fit?

Speaker 5 (19:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I love Timmy, Timmy guy before like the last year,
between this press, Dower and Dune, He's grown on me.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Timmy has always been that guy like Timmy. Timmy has
always been that guy, like like watching him and don't
look up so funny watching him.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Even in a Little Women. Uh yeah, great little Women,
you know, even in a billiards for you, Jill. Yeah,
like come on, bro, like like.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
Look, did you see him on his last two s
n ls.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Yes, Like he's like he would be a great like
original cast member, like if you just start on SML
it was a regular cast member.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I will rock with that. I will rock with me
on that. But yeah, I feel similar way about Gosling.
But I'm amost like it's kind of nice that we
haven't Yes, yeah, you know, all right, so makes it
more beautiful for me. I think the way we're gonna
like purceed a long distance girlfriend. Okay, it's so good
to see you again, baby, who.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Doesn't want to be in a long distance relationship with
Ryan Gosling?

Speaker 1 (20:24):
All right? Uh? He wrote a letter every day man
them all right, Thelove Box of CARDI Show whenever I
don't really need to watch Notebook. I haven't watched it in.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
A long time.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Oh man, I started. We've been every time to think
about that movie. Okay, I'll watch it for you, buddy.
The dad together.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
Brother.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
All right, so I think what we're gonna proceed to.
We're gonna we're gonna list him off. We'll start with
our picks and then we'll go with like what we
think is gonna win, and then like our favorites.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
All right, sound cool? All right? So actor in the
sporting row, we have Uri borisof and Anora. He was
the bald one. He was the bald one. He was sweet.
But like I was like, I don't know about it.
It was a very sweet, understated performance. I thought it
was very natural. Yeah, yeah, and that's what it felt
like to me. I was like, I like this guy
a lot. That's why I really enjoyed about a Noura
is that it was very kind of realist movie. And

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the middle just becomes a three Stooges thing for like
an hour and a half, which is lovely, you know what.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
I never heard it described that way, and I'm gonna agree.
It is very like a three Stooges like slapsticky.

Speaker 6 (21:27):
I hadn't seen it, and someone literally said that before
you guys got to see we were talking about it.
The middle.

Speaker 4 (21:32):
Middle's fantastic, and yeah, like especially like it's like right
after they tire up, it becomes like a bit, you know,
like oh, and then Honest Trailer just did their year,
their annual like oscars like Honest Trailer, and they got
to Anora and they were just kind of like, it's
a lot of American Russian screaming, and they like played
every clip of the screaming and then they were like, yeah,

(21:53):
it's just them trying to find a dude for like
a good hour. And then so every clip have you
seen his boy? Have you seen his boy? Have you
seen this boyvin?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Have you seen the guy?

Speaker 4 (22:01):
Like, god, damn it, broad my fucking like, it's that
for the last hour.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
But I love a door. Despite all of that, it
goes into that you have a lot of fun with
it and then he just tears your heart out.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Oh yes, oh especially that last scene. Yeah, he's a
big eur is a big part of that. Kieran Colkan
in a real pain.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
I really like him.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
He was the heart of that movie, part of the movie.
Edward Norton in a complete unknown loved him, loved him.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I thought he really got screwed over by Dylan there.
I think he's like, I'm giving this kid a shot.
He's like, yes, screw you, Pete Seeger and your folk
festival that you built up from nothing. Yeah, and then they.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
Tried to like half azzarly like like they tried to
after the fact make him kind of like the villain,
like I.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
Really like your music, and it's like, well, I like
the music, but also where yeah, he's still your friend,
like I want Dylan to keep making protest music. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
So you know that kind of fell apart from me
in the movie that was like kind of my big
thing and just kind of I know they try to
show complexities with the relationship, but I was just kind
of like, I'm just lost, and like are your friends?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
Angel on the Shoulder where Johnny Cash is like the
devil that whiskey Frog, the Sith outfit going do it yeah,
living there, he said no. At one point, there is drunk,
there is a electronic man. There's a moment in.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
The movie where Bob Dyler was like, no one wants
to listen to a kid saying the songs, and then
you just see Johnny Cash just go I want to
listen to.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
And I was like, that's the very square John Boyd
Hobrook has kind of a pointier jaw, teers like Giga Chad,
Johnny Cash, I dug it. I thought Fantastic was so
good that the boy Hobrook, what the boyd Holbrook nomination
for a complete U.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
Now, honestly like he he was so he was there
so sparingly, and I don't think he was there enough
to make an impact. So I mean I would be mad,
but I'll be like, you know, there's there's bigger ones.
I mean Guy Pierce for the Brutalist, you know, Jeremy
Strong for the Apprint as well, which, funny enough, Karen Cochin,
Karen Cochin, Jeremy Strong and apparently I heard yesterday that
they had beef with each other.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
So there's a lot of high stakes.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
Oh, not surprising, not surprising. I was getting that vibe
when they were basically doing all the pressers and just
a little yeah so.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah, like it will be a strung crab there.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
I think Jeremy Strong, just like recently, was being brought up.
It's like, oh yeah, he could take the award, but
I think this is Kieren coulkin'st to lose.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
At this point, the thinking about the Apprentice is picked
a bad time released in that I was already so
burnt out on all the Trump stuff. Yeah, and then yeah,
I was like, the last thing I wanted to do
in my three hours away from my phone and away
from the news is go watch Sebastian Stan be Donald Trump,

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you know, hours, ten minutes or however long the run time.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
Saving Grayson has sentence though, it's like, as much as
I've had enough of Trump, Sebastian Stan you know, he's great, like,
and it's his first nomination too, so it's like he
should have been nominated tany if you ask me, I'm
with you there, So I'm glad that you got.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
It for this one boyfriend in that Yeah, all right?

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Are you ready for to like name your picks?

Speaker 5 (25:07):
And three?

Speaker 1 (25:08):
All right? All right? Actor in a supporting role? Three
two one? Ed Norton?

Speaker 5 (25:15):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Who do you?

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Who do you want to win? Or that's why I
think win? You want? I want to win you? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but like, okay, so why do you
think Edward Norton is going to win?

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Okay? Music biopic gets awards. That's one of the reasons
they make them. I mean, is ayone really clamoring falling
over themselves? Yes, completely unknown man, it's wards bait. I mean,
if you're I know, a lot of things are like
we'll get that title. But Ed Norton, he had a
lot of heart in that movie. He was very sweet. Yeah,
he was very sweet. He was really great in the movie.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
I just feel like when it comes to like this
entire like list, I was more invested in your Boresof
and Anora, I was more invested in I was very
invested in Cocaine. And I feel like he's been sweeping
this awards season. He has the sag Award, he has
the Golden.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
I'm very surprised Real Pain didn't get nominated for more things. Yeah,
me too. It was a movie unlike I knew we
could still have nominated anymore.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yeah, it's like it's like, uh, I don't want to
compare too much to this, but it's like last year,
it's The Holdovers, where it's like a nice simple story
about like these two.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Like The Holdovers was probably it was like my third
or fourth favorite movie. That was my second favorite last
year after Iron Claw. Yeah, Iron cla nothing, But that's
another conversation. It was four dropping that at the end
of December that did that.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, that's true, and we'll get into like you know,
the placement of movies releasing versus like I got thoughts
get into we're gonna get it too, Doune. All right,
so that was our actor the supporting role. I want
I think here Cocon deserves it. I believe he's going
to get it. Uh So that's just kind of my
thoughts on that.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Janey I had to not a boy but Texas boy.
All right.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
So now we're moving into actress in the leading role.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Allright, flipping it back, all right, So we have.

Speaker 4 (27:13):
Cynthia Arivo for Wicked. We got Carlo Sofia Gascon Fromilia Perez.
There's a lot with this, look like, Okay, we got
Mikey Madison for Nora, Demmy Moore for the substance for
Nandatoris for I'm still here. So let's name who we
think we're going to win, and let's discuss. Wait, who

(27:34):
we thing is gonna win or who we like who
we think is going to win? All right, all right,
actress in the leading role three to one, we're on
the opposite, we're on different.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Okay, I'm not getting You're not much like the Jamie
Lee Curtis for it's more of a career award than
anything given in that movie. Here's the difference best Supporting
Actress in that picture and I stand by here's here's
here's I'm gonna take my jacket off of this. Hold
on so one.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
Demi Moore in the Substance fantastic performance like I was.
I was so like in Capture with It. I feel
like a body horror movie such as a Substance getting
nominated for anything at the Oscars in this time is
like an amazing achievement. But Demi Moore, I feel like
next to Mikey Madison because I think Mikey Madison, you
can like interchange the two, is one of the best

(28:22):
performances of the year, like period, like period, and she's
been getting awarded non stop for this like she has sad,
she has going and goes, she has. I believe she
has the Critics Choice Awards as well. You can fact
check me on that one. But I think it's trending
in a way that if she doesn't win, it'll be
a super shock. It'll be very very shocking. So if

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she doesn't, I feel like the one under that to
win will probably be Mikey Madison.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
I think Mike I thought she was fantastic, but Fernando
Torres is quiet performance and I'm still here. Yeah, dude,
breaks your dang heart. Yeah. And to be yeah, to
be an actress in the International film being nominated for
Best Actress means already got a lot of pull to
it and we're just going just the stock of this

(29:09):
thing moving up, right. But also I thought it was
the best performance of the year.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Okay, no, it is a great performance, and I'd be
happy with Mikey Madison as well. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Well, I'm glad to know that Mikey Madison is like
the fallback for both of us. But you know, I
feel like I like to look at these things in
trends with like leaving a little room for upset, and
I feel like if Demi Moore doesn't get this, it
will be like one of the biggest upsets of it
because it's kind of been a way of comeback story
for her because I think she's kind of been out
of it for like a little bit or like enough
for it to be considered a comeback. But you know,

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if it's either her or Mikey Madison, I'll be cool
with that. Fernanda Taurus. It's like like a definitely a
third because she did get the Golden Globe for that
for like her like best supporting in a drama role
out think goulash. So you know we'll see Cynthia Ribo
like great performance fell out of the race, like you
know what I'm saying. But it's a great performance called
Sophia g Yeah, sorry about that. It could have been historic,

(30:02):
but sorry about that. But yeah, so I have DEMI.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Don't say those things and uh make a better movies.
Just be a better person, you know, just be a
better person. All right.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
So that is an actress in a leading role. Time
to move into supporting.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yes, we got Zoie Seldona for a Melia Peress, Felicity
Jones for the Brutalist, Monica Barbara for a Complete Unknown,
Ariana Grande for Wicked, and Isabella Russellini for Conclict. Okay, now,
who do you think is going to win? On three?
Actress and a supporting three seconds? Think about it?

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Think about it, Think about it because I already know
my pick. I have a feeling you know your pick too, Craig,
all right, you got it, I think so, Okay, actress
in a supporting role three two one, We got one,
we got one, You got one.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I think I think in a movie that I was
utterly confused by and a musical, great musical numbers.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
The musical said that, you said that on the other
pod you said it was confusing. It was confused, it
was it was tough to make it through.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
I still haven't made it through. I have not uh
finished it.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
I haven't even finished it, man, I don't think I'm
going to to be honest. However, every time I did attempt,
I was like zays Odonna's acting.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
The fun out of this. She's a fantastic gay. She
is fucking fantastic. Always brings her a game every single time.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
And I think I think she should have been nominated
way back when Avatar was nominated. I think she should
have gotten nomination.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
For that.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
Emotion capture and blue people in Suit Like. I get that,
I get it, like honestly, like we could talk about
Andy Serkis shouldn't have been nominated for Caesar as well
as well as Gollum.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
But again, I just want to off road a little
bit with Zoe's Aldana. Have you seen Lioness on Paramount play.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yo? So good?

Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yeah, so good. I'm trying to touch two seasons really
really well.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Kidman in that thing too.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
Yeah, Morgan Freeman too.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
I haven't been given paramount Taylor. Taylor Sheridan does everything
all that day.

Speaker 6 (32:09):
It's so good, though. Man, It's one of those procedurals
that I'm like, oh, I'm in the thing is.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I've been so away from procedurals for so long, and
then friends like watching fire Country or something that Helen
and I started watching this.

Speaker 6 (32:24):
I'm like, but no, this is I mean, personally, I
feel like it's just really good storytelling, really good character developments,
solid performances, all the action sequences, like just it's good man.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
All right, I'll give it. I'll give it a look.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
See hopefully like more people will check it out after
she gets this oscar, because she's gonna get the oscar.
But I think I look at all these performance and
there's that's the thing. Backups are hard, Like backups are
really hard. Like I look at all these performances, they're
all great. I feel like they're all on the same level.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I do, really, do you think so? Like the uh
now I'm there. I was surprised, Well, I didn't think
she was particularly well cast a jim byas I thought
she gave a great performance. But also I wasn't really
feeling biased.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
As someone who doesn't listen to Joan, like I was
like I didn't know any better. I was just kind
of like, oh, she's doing a great job, Like you know,
I don't have anything to compare her to, So you know,
that's what I was looking at. Maybe nobody in the
academy knows who Joan is either. I don't want to
say that, I might get like people you don't know
Joe Bias, but like, I just did it right.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Yeah, that sounds like confident I'm going to do jim
Buys something of a complete unknown. What bist great performance? Okay?

Speaker 4 (33:41):
I mean Felicity Jones has been has been trying to
get an oscar for like ever. She's been not what
this is her third nomination like ever.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
She had a Theory of Everything. Theory of Everything, which
is the only other movie I really know her from
that's not Rogue One. I did not like her in
Rugue One because I don't like her. She was very
Rogue one. Yeah, she's just her whole character was just
haying the word hope.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
A lot, and then big eyes. Yeah, also amazing Spider
Man two.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Oh that's right. She was supposed to be black Cat,
but she did try. Grande thought she had a pretty
good performance. No, I thought so too. She was great.
I thought she was there.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
I feel like Ariana Grande's performance in Wicked is very similar,
not similar, like as they're doing the same thing, but
it feels like the Ryan Gosling and Barbie like to me,
it feels that way Pink Pond and Pink. That's, you know,
outside of the aesthetic, but I do like that tie,
that correlation. But they both just have this like effortless,

(34:37):
effortlessly funny like but they also have like this like
undercurrent of tragedy behind them, Like that first scene I knew,
the first scene where.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
She's singing, no one mourns the Wicked, Yeah, and like somebody.

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Goes no one wants the Wickeds, she gives this look
that has like a lot of like remorse. Right, this
is me watching this movie having not seen the stage play,
having listened to the musical all the way through, so
I'm not fully tapped into like what happened between the
two or what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, I got beef with the movie, but that's its
own thing. I thought you gave her a performance. I
thought she gave I thought she was I don't think
you just start a movie by being like, let me
give you the whole story, and then it cuts to
Wicked Part one, part one after you say you're gonna
give me the whole story. Hey, it's three and a
half hour stage play. I think that's you got three
hours and you're doing only part one.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
I think, Okay, that's legit. Bef right there, that is,
that's legit.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Be Yeah, he's kind of bad, he's got bad.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
Yeah, I support you.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Don't get started on the color grade. Oh I heard
the color grade. Was like yeah, yeah. There's one scene
when she's doing the reprise of Popular. She's in the hallway.
It's all pink, and I'm like, yeah, this is how
the rest of this movie should look. Love that.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
Love that, And I think again, in that scene, that's
another thing. I think they should put in the Oscar
real for her. When they call her name, when she
goes like, don't make me laugh.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
They were popular, she goes right, it's like a delivery.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
It's the look in her eyes, it's everything in that moment.
I'm like, this is a she's putting in work.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Yeah, I thought a lot of fun. I didn't think
it was great.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
Yeah, I love Wicked me Away, Blew me Away, all right,
So that's an actress and a supporting role. Like I'm
not even gonna pick, like I'm just to say a
runner up. I'm gonna say Ariana Grande because like, I
just love that performance so much, but it doesn't matter
because always way, Yeah she's Gonnaway.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Okay, I love this. My backup will be Isabella Rustling. Okay,
it's good. You love Conclict. I love some Conclict, all right.
So ther Mom was also a fantastic actress. Love Casablanca.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
Okay, Okay, so I love this. I love this category
Best Animated Feature.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Read them out, all right? We have Flow inside Out too,
Memoir of a Snail, that One, Wallace and Grommet, Vengeance,
Most Foul, and the Wild Robot. Can you like read
all of these?

Speaker 6 (36:50):
He got the voice like, just read all just read everything.
Shut this mic down down all right.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
Now, this was a strong animation. I thought so too.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
This was a strong year, and like, honestly, like and
you know, I love Pixar, you know, I'm a Pixar
fucking nuts.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
Inside out to is inside out to is.

Speaker 4 (37:08):
The weakest one, which is the first time a Pixar
movie has the weakest movie on this list since Car Frozen.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
That's not a Pixar movie. Oh you're right, So there
you go.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
The cars, the cars, like, I can't remember what was nominated,
but Cars didn't win and I knew it deserved it,
so but I like it.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Rock my nephew super into Cars. I've rewatched their first
Cars about fourteen times this year on account of that.
Listen the first Cars.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
It's pretty good, pretty I got beef for cars too.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
I got bef cars to got beef cars too. And
doesn't have that those intangibles. Lightning McQueen has.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
No star, not at all, and Madeer also forces himself
to have a girlfriend by just repeatedly saying I have
a girlfriend and then she goes, okay.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yes, that's the same way he got Lightning McQueen his
best friend.

Speaker 4 (37:49):
You just kept calling on your friend, like yeah, all right, sure.
I don't like I don't like how Mada operates, Like
I don't like how Madea operates. That's a whole differ,
you know it We're gonna do a whole podcast.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
Mater's Tall Tales. It's just gonna be beef with Mater.
We're down for this. Tell Tales of Noir one kind
of goes crazy. It's like half of its Chinahound reference
can never make me love Mater as much as the public.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
But okay, okay, so yeah, this this category all right,
stacked as all hell and like we'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
But let's best Animated Feature. Do you have your pick?

Speaker 4 (38:21):
I have my pick, all right, Best Animated Feature three
two one The Wild Robot.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
We're gonna be here, wild Man here. I love the
Wild Robot. Listen. I cried during the Wild Robot because
the robot's a mom figure, right, it's offerating number seven
one three four is the first four of my mom's
phone number. Wow. I was weeping. Wow, yeah, wow, of
your mom's phone. My mom's phone. This is a story
of motherhood. Yeah, I thought it was. You did use

(38:51):
the Wild Robot. Man gonna lie. I got a cat
back home, I got a black cat. I was seeing
them like, oh my god. I love this little guy
who all at once is becoming wealthy in community but
lacking home.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Okay, listen, I chose The Wild Robot knowing that it could.
Like you just caught me on a Wild Robot day
right now, like right like yesterday, I was Flow. I
think the day before that I was Flow was Robot
for like a I'm switching back and forth.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Man, it's all good.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Even listen, toss it, do it, listen, man. I love
the Wild Robot, Okay. I think what it's doing with
animation is fantastic, Beau. I feel like it's one of
the few movies to have an emotional height in the

(39:42):
middle of the movie only to provide like five more
in like the last half the last movie Job, the
last animated movie to do that to me, Toy Story three,
to have the emotional highs like in the beginning, middle
and end of.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
The movie How to Train Dragon two, Okay, tears my dang,
and I think that's the best How to Train Your
Dragon movies. But Flow director Wild Robot, Yep. Chris Anders,
Chris Anders. Chris Anders is my guy. Now.

Speaker 6 (40:12):
I haven't seen any of these, but I'm going the
Wild Robot because.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Of Chris Chris Bowers, Chris Score. That's hey, man, Chris.

Speaker 6 (40:21):
Chris was in the studio. He was so he gets
my support.

Speaker 4 (40:24):
So you know, I'm not just saying this just because
like you and I are buddies. Now I hope we're buddies,
but I'm just saying, like I do believe that The
Wild Robot is like one of the best animated movies
and one of the best movies of the year period.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I just really jump on you with flow. Flow is
a fucking movie. Oh yeah, that is a movie barely
a singular work, which in this industry you don't have.
You don't have singular works. It's a very collaborative industry.
You're it's like putting together a name football team. But
this guy's running all the BASI himself playing the outfield.

(40:56):
I can't pronounce his name. It's lap being what was
gin gints? Hold on, we say your name, brother, all
right now.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
Gainst Zilbo lotis Gainst or jinz Zilbo lotis.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Ginst are gents, We don't know. We love you though.
You did a fantastic job all my this whole thing
almost in Blender, I was told, yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
Know, a lot of people compare this movie to a
video game called Stray as well, which I never played,
but I hear it's a fantastic like oh my god,
and like like listen, Wally is my favorite Pixar movie.
I switch between that and Soul all the time. And
a lot of people scripe with that movie. Is that
like no Dialogue in the first like forty minutes, you
don't need it.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
You don't need it, and Flow fucking proves that no
dialogue is a cat going meet and it looks beautiful too,
It looks it looks beautiful too, Like it's it's a
beautiful story of like friendship, about togetherness, about losing losing home,
like you know, like it's like what in La post fires,
we got a community coming together, a lot people that
lost their homes. That is very true. That's very true.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
So yeah, it's also like a post apocalyptic world that
never explains like exactly what happened?

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Why you.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
But you ain't got to know, just know that the
animals rule now and that they need a home.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
And I just know back home, I got a black
cat with big old eyes, and minute after this room,
like I'm gonna go home and I'm going to cuddle
the crap out of that cat.

Speaker 4 (42:17):
Oh yeah, but yeah, yeah, best animated feature. There's one
other animated movie that I feel like should have been
in here Over Inside Out too.

Speaker 1 (42:25):
And what's that Piece by Piece.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
That much?

Speaker 1 (42:30):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (42:30):
No, I love piece by Piece? Did you see Piece
by Piece grect the Pharrell Lego biopic?

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Oh so good? It felt very masturbatory. There's not a
single there's not a single bad thing. It's elaborate, Okay.
Is that Pharrell was directly involved still with making it?
Oh you want, you want a little bit. If you're
making a documentary about someone, I like to have a
little objective lens what Emerson called a transparent eyeball. Bring

(42:59):
in your tenth grade English class? Can I can I
tell you this? Can I can I just a little bit?

Speaker 4 (43:04):
He had two biopicks coming out, this Lego one, which
is you know, it's one a Latin lego form, Like
he uses the medium to talk about like what he
loved about music and like, yeah, he has some like
down moments, Yeah, but he but for the most part
he's just kind of like, I like to see the
world in this way and this is who I am.
I feel like his other biopick that he was working

(43:25):
on that he has shelved and said that nobody would
have Yeah, they killed it and it's finished too.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
It was as done, it's done.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
So I think that's where he was going to dive
more into the darker side of things, because again, this
is like a.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Leg blurred lines of things run it. Did you know?

Speaker 4 (43:44):
Did you know he fucking Farrell made the fucking McDonald's jingle.
Farrell made the McDonald's jingle. They reveal it in piece
by piece.

Speaker 6 (43:51):
Oh the b that's for real, Yeah, that would make sense.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
I was like, what I didn't even know he did? Alright,
with a fucking h Kendrick. I had no idea the
fucking work this man put in. Dude, that lego b
l M stuff in this thing. It was crazy. It
was crazy, and you were like, I don't do this.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
History, mom, what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (44:16):
It's starting to make sense. But there were no flaws
in Forrell in the movie.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
I'm like, all right, it's kind of just it's a
lego movie like I was expected to see, Like if
I would have saw Forrell doing every every fucking biopic,
including Better Man, always has the moment where they're bumping
coke and cheating on their wives, And I was like
really refreshed to see like Pharrell not bumping.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
You don't want to see Lego Coke?

Speaker 4 (44:40):
I don't now, like no, maybe maybe I kind of
want to see that. I kind of want to see
Lego Coke.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
I kind of want see like Head's been around and whatnot.
God damn it. Anyway, maybe maybe that is a knock
on the movie. You need Lego Coke in it. But yeah,
I want the darker piece by piece, I want seen
the pieces fault.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
You did get one, you got the black and white.
But last thing I want to say about this category
is did you watch Memoirs of a Snail?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
How did you also say memoirs again, memoir? It sounds
like you've missed memoir. You can't memoir. I thought it
was very cute. You can't look at this very cute,
very sweet. You thought of the Snail was cute for
a while and then I cried. I cry a lot.
I'm such a hair trigger on crying.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
That movie makes you cry with the first like two seconds,
like two seconds like I. But also they're very cute,
like child moments in there, where I'm like, this is
very sweet. Yeah, but it's just when I describe Memoirs
of a Snail, Memoirs is that memoir cute is not the.

Speaker 4 (45:39):
First thing I would come up with, because I think
in my review I like did say like, oh yeah,
there are some like moments of like light and everything,
but that movie is like a punishment, Like it's.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Just it's likes, bro, this movie is a cross to bear.

Speaker 4 (45:56):
You are literally just trying to make it to the end.
Like the whole time I was watching, like my face
was just like I'm like, this girl loses her I
don't you know, fucking I'm spoiled. She loses her dad,
she loses her brother. She like it's like like like
like the the reason why she's obsessed with snails is
heartbreaking in and of itself.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Everything, even when she gets a husband. When you're you're
supposed to be like finally so to love her, there's
a down occurrent to that. You're like, oh, she finally
fell in love. Oh shit, like perhaps perhaps not. I
was then shot forty seven times. It's like it's like
one of those type of things.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
I actually did make a TikTok to this when I
was like the wild robot be in the movie to
make me cry this year Memoirs of a Snale.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
I was then shot forty seven times.

Speaker 4 (46:42):
That movie is just non stop punishment all the way
to like it's final, like two minutes, just the final
two minutes. But it broke me down. It stepped on
my ashes, it peeded on me. And then it said,
oh that's a movie, should dude you let me put
it back, let me put you back together. But this
movie is electroal shock therapy. This movie has electoral shock therapy.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
This is an animated movie. This movie is a heartbreaker.
And I think about all these things and when I
hear you say it was cute. I saw somebody's eyes
bowled out of their head during electroal shock therapy and
you're like, yeah, he was cute.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
Like even till Bert was like, oh, bro, I can't
do like, bro, what is happening here?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Oh my god? I believe it's Australia too. I was like,
I was like, I've met Australia. Is They're the nicest
people I've ever met. Y'all holding some darkness here? Oh yeah,
Oh my gosh, what do you think They sent him
to that island? That island, You're right.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
They put him like on opposite ends of the coast.
And I was like, fucking fuck anyway.

Speaker 1 (47:47):
Yeah, it was a penal colony. Dude, Tony crows at anyway.
I send him over there. That's why when you go
to Australia they ask you customs do you have a
criminal record? It might still be required.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
I I wasn't asked that when I'm it there. But
this is scary, all right, that's the best animated feature.
Put off a little bit of a tangent there, but
we had to, uh, all right, we didn't talk.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I know you want to. I know you're dying it
because you love Wallace and Grommitt. Great picture. Watch it.

Speaker 4 (48:16):
Ramen has been operating at a very high level for years.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Like for I mean, we didn't have anything from that
studio for a long while.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Yeah, honestly, the Arment studio is fucking fire bro like
Sean the Sheet, Wallace and Grommet Chicken run like they
know how to make oh fucking flushed Away.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
Even though it's not the most reviewed, that was them.
That was them. You can tell, like armanuck doing their thing. Yeah,
built like the name flushed Away rats, And I think.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
I think every Wallace and Grommett feature length movie was
nominated for a Best Animated Feature for as long as
it's been a thing.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
So it won for a wear rabbit.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
So you know, like you know, I don't think it's
gonna win now, but those Brits love themselves and Wallace
and Grammit.

Speaker 1 (48:55):
I was in London a couple of times this year.
They love.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
They wanted to wait at the Oscars. I don't think
it's going to but you know, all right, so this
next one is going towards your alley best cinematography.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
All right, let's see the numbs, let's see the knobs.
List them all, got revoice of yours. The Brutalist Noon
Part two Amlia Peress Maria and as the Australians call it,
no speratu, No, no, that's not it said it in Germany.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Are our Australian audiences are.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Like, yep, yep, he's rat. I don't even know what
that was Australian. Okay, this is a hard one. I
don't know this.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
This is a hard one because like this one, I'm thinking,
is Doom Part two going to continue to be disrespected
like it's been this.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
They got it for being a march really and they shouldn't.
I say the same thing if it would have came
out in November. We will be talking about it in
a much different line. Brutalist has a leg up. They
feeling that thing in this division on on film.

Speaker 5 (50:10):
Yep. For such a budget, very.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Well shot movie, it's very looking, it's looking very good.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Yeah, it looks very good.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Part two, though that's a technical Part two is a
fucking masterpiece of the eyes.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
The Brutalist is like seeing a very nice restored classic car,
and Dune Part two is a dang muscle car running
down your street, and you're like, is very happy with that?
And absolutely yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
Shout out to donte Retto, baby to the family. All Right,
I don't care. Look, that's gonna be our guy, donte Reto.
We're gonna make t shirts.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
And everything, all right. Shout out to the people who know.
Are you ready for the pigs? Yep? All right? Three? Two,
one the Moon. We're both happy. We'll be happy with either. One.
I thought was very well shot, but such a late release.
I don't think it really Yes, I think so, yeah, yeah,

(51:07):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (51:08):
And that's the thing, like when you talk about Dune
and No Saratu. No Saratu was a later release, like
right on the deadline of like putting it like Out
for Oscar season and then Dune Part two was like
March even before the summer season. Such a weird month,
but but a great month forward to drop and made
what it? I mean it made a billion dollars or
I'm not sure, a little.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Shy of a billion. I think our first thing to
cross a billion this year was inside Out.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
I mean it took over like culture for for a Hot, Yeah,
it was fantastic. Yeah, Like you have people screaming out
like asaka.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
You know what I'm saying, Dude, I wanted to be
a white boy on a GI Hot. It's a whole
It's a whole movie about while you never drink that
blue drink that girls order you at a bar. I
I just saw.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
I thought it was like a movie why you never
trust the white people? Who says, hey I can help
that's yeah, just coming in, you know, you give up
your clothes and say like, hey, you're invited to the cook. Yeah,
and he's Likeday, you're way better.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
Than Paul Trd's on my birthday. You're way better.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
Like Dune to seven hundred million, It.

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Took over culture. It was a pop culture moment very
similar to like you know what Wicked did, but it was.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Closer to the shout out to the bucket, the bucket,
the whole the atus bucket, the bucket, the world.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
I got the bucket. It was hard that thing. It
was really hard to popular world thing because like when
you take your hands out the teeth popor bucket. I've
seen it his bucket, say in his bucket.

Speaker 7 (52:35):
But yeah, so I'm worried about what yours looks like.
It's not Minis, which asked NASA. They all know about uranus.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah running here.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (52:53):
Last thing I want to say about the cinematography, and
the reason why I picked the Brutalist is because I
feel like the disrespect to Dune is going to continue.
I'll be happy to see if they say, let's give
it this, let's give it this, and that will make
me very happy. But the Brutalist is like my big thing. Yeah, okay,
So costume.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
Design, costume design, all right. The Dominees are a complete
unknown conclave Gladiator two for the first time on this
Academy word list.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
It doesn't need to be here at all. But you know,
and Wicked, Okay, I think it's a very clear winner here.
And I already got my pick do you have all right?
Best costume design?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
One?

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Two, three? Two? Completely different movies, different movies. It's so different.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
But I think, honestly, I'd like to hear your Wicked
takes both fair, both fair like Wicked like it. The
costumes itself is a culture, like it's a it's a movement,
right like the amount of people I saw with the
Alpha but Glasses there was like once swirly here, it
really looks really dope right there. Obviously what they did
with this is a hair styling thing, so we talk

(54:09):
about this when it comes to hair and makeup. But
elf Bus costume was dope, Glenda's costume was. The ships
costumes were amazing, what they did with Jeff Goldbloom. But
then all that to say, the Emerald City scene.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
The just one day in the Emerald City.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
All that ship felt real, it felt lived in, it
felt utterly amazing to look at. And then second on
that list is the munchkin Land scene as well. Like
when that scene where they were like, no, what is
a Wicked? I was looking at the costume.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
I was like, it's colorful, it's vibrant, but it also
ever gets yeah, and it's it's in the costumes, you
know what I'm saying. So like the fact that the
costumes popped out of that, like I'm gonna give it
to Wicked plus Wicked. I feel like the Academy really
wants to award it something versus like, but they don't
want to give it, Like I don't want to like
downplay this award category, but they don't want to give

(55:01):
it like what they what they would call the major Award.
It's like, you know, the Best Picture of Screenplays and
things like that. It's the most nominated movie.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
And I don't think they're gonna let Wicket pass by
something that they enjoyed a lot without like a costume thing.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
I think this is one of those.

Speaker 4 (55:15):
Situations where yes, No Shasu's costumes are like very colorful costumes.
Yeah right, Like there's a lot of work to get
into and like you know, they're uh historically accurately accurate.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Uh, they have it down to the danglayers. They have
clearly thought about the different wealth class cast between these people,
and that Lily Rose deeps and basically the same thing
the whole day time. It's just a dang good movie.
It's well put together. Yeah, Linda Muir I think is
the name costume designer on this one. I was on
the screen there, fantastic. I only know this because I

(55:50):
watched a little making of Future. Yeah, I was waiting
for our buddy to get We were about to go
out and grab dinner or something, and I was like, Oh,
it's on, let's check it. Yeah, in the mirror, you'd
me think you should win this award. I think it
would be nice if you won this award.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
But I also think that when it comes to Wicked,
these are costumes that people have been remaking. When you
want to talk about like its impact outside of the movie,
people remake these costumes and like reimagine these costumes.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
People be reimagining these costumes since the musical came out. Yes, well,
but like I feel like that was.

Speaker 6 (56:25):
The point I was going to make, because I think
Wicked has had such a prolonged cultural impact on more people.
This it resonated with more people. Therefore it might like win,
for lack of a better term, it would be like
a popular vote.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
I see what you were there, a popular vote.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
Popular But but yeah, so like I feel like the
costumes on a like cultural level would be the thing
that puts it over the top versus like no Sharatu,
which like looks great, but I don't think it like excites.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
It doesn't move me, as the kids would say, Oh,
you know, seeing willing to phone in that nice coat
with the rats running around him. It's on fire. That's great.
That didn't move you. Oh I was moved.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
I feel I feel like everything real rats.

Speaker 1 (57:13):
Man, it's not part of the cost. They pumped in
real rats.

Speaker 4 (57:17):
Well, if there's a reward for the rats, then we
can get.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
You there man, the Academy, I know we've been working
on stuntwork for years for New Awards, Rats Awards, think
about it, animal handling, why not set? All right? So directing, Yes,
this is a very interesting one directing category. Go ahead
and name them and then we'll give our picks. Sean

(57:39):
Baker for Anora, Brady Corbet for the Brutalist, James Mangold
for a complete unknown, Jacques Allard aud Yard excuse me,
he's French Amelia Perez, which is not a French name.
And the substance and the substance Ms Corley Cargo, I

(58:14):
think he just described the problem with the movie with that.
What you think we should have let this straight French
guy direct the trans Mexican movie about the cartel? Why
could that ever be an issue? That sounds like a
matchmate of heaven Man? And then when we ask him
about it, maybe he should be like, oh, yes, I

(58:35):
did the studied about these two talks. But no, he
he went full director brain, which he's like enough, and
I'm like, yeah, good for you, brother. He's already said
about the Spanish language, right, yeah, he was like, oh yeah,
this is a language for like middle like like struggling countries.

Speaker 4 (58:58):
This is a language speak a beautiful friend. No, all right,
so best directing.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Do you have your pick? Scroll back up real fast?
I believe I do. Okay, should we say the name
of the director of the name of the movie, the
name of the director?

Speaker 5 (59:14):
All right?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
All right? Three two one, Brady, How do you make
that on such a budget? Incredible feet of filmmaking. Yes,
you did a great job. Fantastic performances. There's the second half.
Is the second half worse than the first half? Yeah,
but it's also four hour movies. It's four hour movie.
It's coming to drag at some points. Sorry, David Lean

(59:35):
and your grave rolling somewhere, but fantastic THI I think.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
I think that if The Brutalist doesn't win Best Picture
is going to be one of those years where it
splits the Best Picture Best Director book. So I could
see something like a Nora, which has been kind of
pumping up to Best Picture, and then I'm still going like, oh,
the Brutalist gets you gear me.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
No, I can hear. I didn't know it was a
three thirty five run time.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
It's got an intermission, yes, sir, oh sorry, Revival American epic.
I don't know if you're a tight ninety guy, but
I like a good intermission.

Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
I don't mind an intermission. But I'm just you know, yeah,
I was in the.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06):
Middle of it explaining this. It Craig's just like, what
do you mean? That's like, look at you, good, bro,
You're good. Yes, the rud Time is astronomical with an
intermission too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:16):
So yeah, and the film that much footage on film
for the budget they did, Whi's gonna be accomplished by
I think the film predominantly in Hungary. I think it's
just funny because the movie about the Hungarian it's coming here.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
But I think they're gonna award him Best Director just
for putting the time in.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Yeah, just for putting the time in. And also, dude,
it's such a few directing. You did fantastic performs throughout
the movie end. Well, yeah, it's singular. He had a
steady hand through the whole thing.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
The only other option I can see is Sean Baker
for Nora. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
No, Sean Baker's great, and I can see that for Nora.
That's why I think like they're gonna split that thing
like a Nora best Picture.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
This fair enough.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
I probably just gave away my best picture pick, but
we'll see what not. All right, all right? So next up,
documentary feature film. Have you seen any of the documentary
feature film?

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
No, we're going off names or we're skipping Uh, let's
go off names. Let's keep it tight. Let's keep it tight.
A look at a name. Oh wait, I seen one
of these? You see one of them? Okay, I have
my pick. You have one, two three? No other Land
that's nice. No, the Land. I think it's very in
the zeit guys. It's about the Palestinian people being displaced. Yeah, okay,

(01:01:21):
and I thought it was a very heartbreaking movie made
prior to uh October tax and the Israel am us
war there, which is a situation. You know, it's only
gotten worse there, and so I think it's very I
don't think it's a very important movie. It's a heartbreaking movie.
Well shit, it tears a hole in your heart and
makes you want to fill it with something else. Boy,

(01:01:42):
were you filling your heart with a lot of liquor
a lot of good food right now?

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
I'm watching this movie with you. I said Sugarcane because I.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Like the name. I really give a moon documentary documentary.
Have you seen any of these? I've seen instances of
beating heart.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
That's the one. That's only what I'm saying. Okay, Okay,
you got it, yep, all right? Three two one, the
only girl on the orchestra.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
I didn't even say anything beating hard, just beating hard
for me? These first grade recitals are no joke. Okay, Okay,
see we both chose one. Is that music related?

Speaker 5 (01:02:19):
Look at us?

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
All right? Film editing, you gotta read those from Big
film Editing. We have Anora, The Brutalist Conclave, Amelia Perez
and Wicked. I also like to point out that Shon
Baker edited Anora as well.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Sean Baker does it all, bro He does it all
all right? I already have my pick yep, are you ready?

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
YEP? Three?

Speaker 5 (01:02:40):
Two?

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
Anora and Noura. That first part of the movie esecially
when they're in Vegas, it feels like cocaine.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
It does feel like you're on a like a trip,
like a leader. It does feel like you're on a
bender for yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
And then when it slows down, just the pacing of
the movie matches what's going on so very well, the
cuts and what note. It makes you comfortablehen it's supposed
to be unomfortable, lingers on shots when you're supposed to beuncomfortable.
It doesn't do the what's move of just punching in
on a close up whenever they're like, oh we need
to get away from this wide m h. It lets

(01:03:13):
it exist, it lets it breathe, and I think it's
just fantastically start the picture. The Brutalist.

Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
I can also see The Brutalist looks like low key
a home movie, Like it looks like a home movie
to me at points, but like not just like you
know the ones with like the grainy fucking like yeah,
because a shot on film, but it just feels like
a memory that you're watching right and the fact that
it looks the fact that it looks that way, and
it's almost like kind of film that way, like you're

(01:03:40):
watching it from the outside looking in, and the way
like it cuts from one scene to the other. That's
what like kind of like just kind of like brought
me into the movie. Whereas a Nora, I agree with
you one hundred percent, like it makes me feel what
I'm supposed to feel because of the editing. Like I
think of that scene where he's.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Like, please stop screaming.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
You just see that closing it amount like, ah, yeah,
it's like that part right there of like Okay, that
shit was like pretty dope. But you know, I also think,
you know, again speaking of like the Academy tendency, I
can see them looking at the brutal is smoking like
a pipe and being like.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Yeah, yeah, editing of the picture.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
So that's that's just kind of like where my heart
is at on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:04:17):
So International Feature Film, this one is crazy because you
have three movies. Two of these movies are in the
Best Picture race. One of these movies is in the
Best Animated Future race, and it's like usually when you
have the Best International Feature category, it's like the one, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:33):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:04:35):
Exactly, it's like, oh, it's also not the best picture,
so you know it's going to like do it. But
this one is like a pretty like close race. I
do think one of these like fell out of it,
but I think there's still a very clear winner here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
Your nominees for Best International Feature Film. From Brazil, I'm
still here. From Denmark, The Girl with the Needle. From
France Emilia Perez doesn't sound very French does from Germany
The Seed of the Sacred fig and from Lafia Flow.

(01:05:06):
I realized I'm looking between two cameras when I'm doing this,
but also whatever, it's all good, all right, because I
already know. I think I know yours and I think
you know mine. Right, So three two one, I'm still here.

Speaker 4 (01:05:20):
You know, we would have said Amelie Press probably like
two months ago, probably I was not going to say
I am not.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
I wasn't even gonna finish ye.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
But like again going off of like Academy what they're
going to pick, because now I've gotten to the point
of the Oscars where like I stopped leading with my heart.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Only or some kind of movie about a front runner
for a position slowly being dethroned by the position is
more and more things come out. I wonder some sort
of election. Hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:05:54):
It's a movie for our time, perfect some sort of time. Honestly, man,
like I still haven't seen I'm still here. I'm gonna
keep it a buck with you. But like the reception
that I've seen of this movie, and like just the
subject matter of the movie, I'm like, this is a
perfect movie for like today, and with Amelia Perez, like
you know, falling from grace the way it did, and

(01:06:16):
with like obviously Flow being like a top one. But
I think they are just gonna lock it into the
like best animated. I think I'm still here as like
the clear Choice Sacred fig Also fantastic picture. Okay, film
predominantly in Iran or German producers, I guess. But so
the fact that it even ended up being made is
a feating of itself, right because I think it's the family.

(01:06:38):
It takes place in Tehran.

Speaker 1 (01:06:39):
Okay, But great picture. I thought it was gonna Coast
kind of Awards season originally before I saw it, where
I'm like, all right, I filmed it in wrong, like
that's that's ballsy. But no, fantastic well put together picture
definitely deserves a spot on this nomination list. But I'm
still here man. Listen.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
All I'm gonna say about Best International Feature because I
know who the winner is, but it would have been
nice to see Kneecap nominated, That's all I'm saying. Yeah,
a nice little Irish film about Irish hip hop Orish boys.
It'll be fuck the Oyrish boys can do some hip hop, right, alright?

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
We love that, all right? Makeup and hair styling, alright?
Name it a different man? Which first time it's been
nominated on this list? Which great picture? Emilia Perez no
s Feratu, The Substance Wicked. They painted her green? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
I think this one we're gonna have to do like
who you think is going to win? But who should win?

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
All right? So you have yours? Who you think should win? Yeah,
okay you should first? I'm sorry. Who do you think
is going to win? Alright? Alright? Three two one? The Substance?
Do you think that's going to win? I think it's
gonna win. That's what I think should win.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
A picture it's a it's beautiful, beautiful on some of
these movies, it's a beautifully grotesque picture. I'm thinking of
like the guyser of Blood Squort again. Yeah, it's a
beautiful picture.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
I thought I was among friends here. This ain't a
blood guyser guy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Blood guyser as much as the next guy. I did
have to like I did wish I didn't eat before. Yeah,
but the makeup especially, that's xt stuff as fantastic. Yoh
and I think it's Dibie Moore's back.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Yeah, who Yeah, all right, what did say? I think
it should win for sure, so we're on that. I'd
also be happy when this FARROTI okay. They gave him
a mustache inspired music original score The Brutalist Conclave Amelia Perez,
Wicked and the Wild Robot. I'm just gonna go you know,

(01:08:54):
you know I don't go with you know, I know
what you're going with, but I don't go with three
three two. But I knew you were gonna say that. Yeah,
that was a great score. That opening scene where it's
coming in the like sheer power of the horns blasting,
when you see the statue of Liberty upside down your life. Yeah, baby,
this is a movie. I'm saddled in. Wild roscore was beautiful, beautiful, fantastic,

(01:09:15):
I'd be happy with that winning too.

Speaker 4 (01:09:16):
Yeah, I think that The Wild Robot has a real
chance of being shut out of every award this year.
I think it has a chance flow my Best Animated.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
For which was a damn shame because it was a
very well made movie and one of the best ones
of this year. Exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:09:30):
I'm still pulling for a front of the show.

Speaker 4 (01:09:32):
I'm pulling from I'm manifesting, Chris. You ever watched Bridgerton? Yeah,
it does Bridgerton, I gotcha, all right. Music Original Song
el Mall.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
From Amlia Perez The Journey from the Six Triple Eights.
Like a Bird from Sing Sing, not Nellie Fataro Mi
Camino from Emlia Perez. Never Too Late from Elton John
Never too Late. Okay, I know I know what it was,
a Tyler Perry like Netflix drop right? Which one? Yes,

(01:10:07):
I want to say that I already know what's what
they're going to pick. So three Like a Bird, Dude,
Like a Bird by a Lance.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
This is going to be the only of two that
Emilia Perez will win. El Mall has been sweeping the
Best Original Song category throughout the whole award season.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
It's been the only thing that was like you could stay,
like you could stay. But I believed in my watch
Amelia Perez, that it was a musical with that a
single good musical number. It had like five like that,
and none of them were good. I like you, I
did not like them all. Moving forward, sing sing one

(01:10:48):
a song. Yeah, Diane Warren for the journey.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
This is her what sixteenth seventeenth Oscar nomination?

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Haven't won one? Yeah, because every time she.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
Yeah, like you know, like it's every time she gets one,
like there's always one that's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Just that much.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
Yeah, sixteen sixteen.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
And it looks like el mal is gonna walk away
with this one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
It looks like it to me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
You know, it'll be nice if she wins, but she
has an honorary Oscar, which is always nice. Actually, let's
do production design and.

Speaker 1 (01:11:19):
Then we'll go to Yeah. I think best picture should
be our fast should be our final one for sure
for production design.

Speaker 5 (01:11:24):
The Brutalist Clave, Dune no speratu and Wicked.

Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
Already got mine, already got mine? You ready. I know
it's going to be different too. We've been different this
whole show, three two one, No Dog, It's the Rats,
It's the Rats. You are in love with these rats. Dude,
it is the only time I really liked rats. Did
you get the popcorn? Bugget?

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
If you get the popcorn it literally has rats in it,
like it's like the like the knows Faratu, like it's
the Count Warlock like coffin And when you open it
there's rats inside, like imprinted.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Into the things. So rat but fantastic on.

Speaker 4 (01:12:13):
It is the castle rat and also shot on set.
It's also shot on there's some location, but the beach
is not on a beach. I'm like, what the fu
that's It's incredible, like a lot of it's they built
this name German Town. It's incredible. But they also built
the sets from Wicked too, they did. They also built

(01:12:34):
that and it looks good.

Speaker 1 (01:12:36):
Train. I wish that Wicked was shot better so they
could see more of those sets and had a better
color grade because you look behind seeing the pictures of
that train of the Emerald City looks like a heck
of a lot better. That's without any grade.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
I mean even the Giant wizardhead the Giant Wizard fantastic
practical effect really yeah wow yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Good on them. Cool ship. Yeah, happy with that then too?

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
Tell you production design Wicked should do it, all right,
visual effects.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
For v effects, Alien Romulus, better Man, He's a Monkey,
Dune Part two, Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes,
also monkey and a wicked.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
All right, this is the Battle the the Apes in
this category.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
If you ask me, I need to some sort of
war of the Planet of the Apes. Okay, yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (01:13:30):
Have my pick pick as well, and I wish it
was one of the other picks, but I have my pick.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
All right, you ready yep, three two one, dude hard two.
Look at that, Look at that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
I think it should. I think at the end of
the day, it's going to be like, yeah, you guys
deserve this. Yeah, here take it. However, I will would
love to have had better Man.

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
Yeah, be the one for that. I wish better Man
got a directing nod. I thought it was very confidently
directed and very fun. I agree. Yeah, I agree that
some guy that did uh yeah, yep, Circus one. Yeah,
it's great better Man.

Speaker 4 (01:14:04):
I'm mad that more people didn't watch that movie, Like
I'm really mad, like I'm really give it a chance.

Speaker 1 (01:14:10):
Crazy when they're like, oh yeah, this is gonna be
a marketing thing. We're gonna do a biopic on someone.
No one in the US has this was his chance.
What y'all know about rock DJ.

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
Bag. You know what's crazy is that the song only
sounds great in the movie. I listened to the song
outside of the movie because I thought it was gonna know. No,
it's pretty bad, fair enough, it's pretty bad. But in
the movie I rocks with that ship DJ fair Enough,
that is hard all right? With the choice show, So
it's great.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
And I think this one for this next category, we
should have discussion about the different neils. If we're going
straight to the big one picture, let's do it all right.
Best Picture, Baby, Best Picture, Anora the Brutalist, A Complete Conclave,
Doom Part Amelia Perez, I'm still here. Nickel Boys, which

(01:15:07):
should have gotten a cinnemtography, have gotten way more nominations. Period,
The Substance and Wicked. This has been a crazy race.
This has been a crazy, crazy race. It was a
great year for movies. I feel like we should have
a little discussion first year, YEA.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
Honestly, like with all these movies, I feel like they
all these movies bring something completely different, right, Like I
loved to Norma when it came out. A lot of
people was telling me how it was like the best
film of the year hands down, which made me see it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I saw, yes, it did, I saw it, loved it.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
Mikey Madison, who I always knew was going to have
like an Oscar nomination someday, way back when she did
like Scream and even that little bit wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:15:44):
Time, and then I was so very timed by her performance.
I thought it was fantastic movie, very well put together.
Some of the most movie a movie movie this year.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
Oh no, no no, but it's a good watch. It's
a it's a great to be honest, uh, I know,
A complete Unknown. I feel like it's not gonna get
a lot of like I at least I haven't heard it.
It hasn't been getting the love that I think it
is for Yeah, he got the sack, he got the recently.
But what I'm saying is is like I haven't heard

(01:16:12):
a lot of like outward chatter about a complete Unknown.
I think the chatter has mostly been about like Timmy
and his like talent and his competency and fantastic press tour,
you know, and that great press tour specifically for a
complete or non But I haven't seen a lot of
people talk about the movie, And I do think this
movie is deserving of the Best Picture nomination. I think
it's deserving of all the accolades that is nominated for.
It's just that again, great year for movies. All these

(01:16:34):
movies are just that much better.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
James man Gold pretty hit or miss for me oftentimes. Yeah,
yeah but anyone, yeah night ten day. Uh but back there.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
But yeah, Conclave, I know how much you love conc
I love Conclic. I was surprised by how much.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
I like Conclave.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
I was like trying to, like, I watched it last
because I was like, I, you know, I'm not really
into priests, popes and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:02):
I don't even watch Da Vinci Code. That's how much
I just not into it. Yeah, real, Martin Luther mindset,
you got you know what I'm saying. I'm just kind
of like, no, it's not my thing. It's you know,
Martin Luther all day. Uh So, you know, Concklaive.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
I was very surprised that it was like, like, like
you said, like it's like, uh, bean girls, but the Pope,
you know, it's great. It's a lot of fun with it.
Doom Part two. We know, I don't think we need
to really get into just how much.

Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
Of a man so good?

Speaker 4 (01:17:27):
Everyone's everyone's most disrespected movie of this year. I agree
absolutely when it comes to this awards, eason most disrespected,
Like not even if they're released in November, we're talking
about it much different. It'd be up there with the
Turn of the King forgetting the most oscars. Dene would
would have been nominated for Best Director, criminally wasn't Hans Zimmer.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
I don't think they would have had the time to
be like, oh, it sounds a lot like the first movie.

Speaker 4 (01:17:49):
Like, but John Williams did the same thing with Star
Wars and they give him the nod for Rise of Skywalker.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Come on, like, you know so like that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:56):
It's just it's just the most criminally disrespected movie of
this thing. Amelia Perez, you know what you did, Yeah,
you know what you did shouldn't even be on this list.
I'm just like, you know, I'm still here again. I
haven't seen it, but I've heard of like how this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
Man, I'll give it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
I'll definitely give it a watch. Nickel Boys one of
the Nickel Boys, I would say, is probably one of
the best, if not the best movie on this list.
I'm not gonna lie with it. Like if sing single
was on this list, I would be saying that, but
so good. But Nickel Boys. Most the fact that a
lot of people haven't seen it. I've been trying not

(01:18:36):
a wider release. But it's such a fantastic movie. And
I don't do black people porn like torture porn, no more.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
I don't do that. I don't do struggle movies like
that no more.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
It's a big reason why I didn't Seerriet Tubman, so
I didn't know about Cynthia Rigo until Wicked.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
So, like the.

Speaker 4 (01:18:50):
Black Torture, they make it for Black History Months for
kids to watch in schools. That's that's literally what it is.
That's our education system, folks heard if you're watching from
out of the States. But like, I still watch this
and like, the cinematography is great, the acting is fantastic,
and the fact that it's from the POV and I
thought it wasn't because it enhances the performances of the

(01:19:11):
people around them because they're playing to camera, which is
like amazing to me. So yeah, it's it's such a
fantastic movie. The substance a horror movie being nominated for
a Best Picture nom and getting a lot of love
between acting and writing and.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
All these things.

Speaker 4 (01:19:26):
Cool shit, cool shit, not gonna win, not gonna win,
but cool shit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Wicked definitely shouldn't win if this thing wins.

Speaker 4 (01:19:32):
It's the popular vote, man, it's popular.

Speaker 5 (01:19:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Well, that's what the money is for.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
That's what the money very don Draper review. I mean,
the reason why it's here is because we have ten
nominees in not five.

Speaker 1 (01:19:44):
Yeah, and we shouldn't have those many nominees for Best Picture. No,
we should not.

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
Five.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Five is fine. I think I would knock Wicked the
substance mainly pere list this is good.

Speaker 4 (01:19:53):
What would you knock off the Best Picture list?

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
I'd probably to get id ptably knock off a completely.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Knock off a complete unknown. Okay, okay, so I would
knock off Wicked, Melie Perez for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Show for show.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
I will knock off a complete unknown for show.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
How many is that for? That's three?

Speaker 4 (01:20:15):
That's three ships. There's a lot of good movies here,
a lot of good movies.

Speaker 1 (01:20:20):
Be stepping off some toes. But yeah, but I'm able to.
I'm not in this part of the business, you know
what I mean. We already establish that these are great movies,
so like that would be very petty.

Speaker 4 (01:20:30):
I'm an knock off Conclave. I know you love Conclave.
I will knock off Conclave because I you know what
keep Conclave. Knock off the substance you showed down one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
Huh. You still gotta do one. I still gotta do one.
Just knock off concliint it's all we can keep moving, Okay,
knock off Conclave? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
All right, so are you ready? I am to do
our best picture picks. I know it's gonna be different.
Oh yeah, I think I know your pick. You know,
take I know your part.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Okay, best picture three two one on Conclave. I'd be
happy of the North too. I don't know why doone
want it Conclave? I'm like it makes sense. Yeah, and
Conclave would be very with the message of the movie
and that there was a front runner.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Perez all right, man, I know we didn't get to
some of the categories, but like you know, we got
lives and we were talking for an hour and a half. Yeah,
we can talk about the ship all day, but you
know this is I'm just happy to be here and
thank you for having me. Oh, of course, thank you
for being part of like the new setup, the new show.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
We're on substack now, like we're doing a lot of
great a lot of good stuff. Very proud of you
and the things you've built in this last year since
we've been friends. I know, man, it's been a years.
Been friends for a year. Yeah, Oh my gosh, I
love this man, love you man. Look at that? All right?

Speaker 4 (01:21:45):
Well, guys, that does it for our episode of get
Wrecked with straw Hat Goofy. I'm your host, Juju Green
aka straw Hat Goofy. You're a movie guy, and my.

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Buddy Cameron Rudin, who I just found out his last
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Karen Radein. I have nothing to pitch right now. Pitch yourself.
What do you do? Oh, I'm a director. I probably
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give him money to start doing it. That'd be lovely.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
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have nothing to pitch. But remember, guys, we are on
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