The Fan Boy Fighter Recs the Pod

The Fantastic Frankey stops by to actual have a serious conversation? Huh?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Wake up?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Did you time to go to work?

Speaker 3 (00:05):
All right?

Speaker 4 (00:06):
Can we talk about it?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Get it?

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Wake up? I get it?

Speaker 1 (00:11):
That get it, that goal with everyone's saying that up next,
it's not my father. The vocals are goals that making
that hit it so fully that my neighbors a movie,
the way.

Speaker 4 (00:19):
That that role they stay in them people.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Baby, you know I'm making everybody upset because West we
get breas and I know.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
We gonna get bread, Gonna get bread, gonna get breast, cunning,
get bread, Donna.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Get breath, get bread.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
What's going on? Everybody?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
It's your boy, Judy Green aka straw had Goofy, your
movie guy. And I'm sitting here with fantastic Frankie, good
friend of mine.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
She's amazing.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
We're gonna get into some fun conversations that may or
may not be about movies.

Speaker 4 (00:46):
We'll see.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
I didn't get a chance to ask you on my podcast,
and I didn't think about it until after.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
The power line dance.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Oh you want to learn to do the power line?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
No?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
What do not want to learn how to do about it?
But you do? You guys heard that she wants to
learn to do the power line.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
That's not what I'm saying you do it often, right.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
I do it a lot. I did it yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
You did. What is your connection with the Power Line Dance? Okay?
Will you ever retire it?

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Never?

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Never?

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Ever? Never? No, like come on, like you know it.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Sometimes sometimes I feel it's who I am now I
get I get nervous when you do it, and for
the white people, because let's it's not just that, but
like the optics of a bunch of white people surrounding you.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
And typically two other black men.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, like I those type of situations. I exit those
type of situations. For like when me and Dmitri was Emmy,
Dimitri and Jasmin were in Hong Kong and going to Disney,
like everybody was stopping us to take pictures because they
once thought I was Lebron James and thought Dmetri was like,
you know, just insert flaming his black person here.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
You were like, yeah, no, like you're like, we're done,
We're done, We're out of that.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
But like the Powerline Dance, like it's who I am
at this point, Like you don't, you don't. I told
you a story about how I cried when I met
the director. Yeah, you know like that like that was
a formative culmination, full circle moment for me. And so
every time I hear the dance, it's like you can't
stop it now. And I don't know if you've ever
seen you've seen us do it together, but have you

(02:22):
ever seen what happens when the song comes on?

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Yes, I've been with you many times. You see terrible
San Diego Comic Con party on the pre day, on
the prey the pre day that wed Where's party? Where's
party of all time? And that's when it came into
my head because we weren't dancing, and then the song
came on, and then you did it, and I.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Was like, this is not the crowd but white people here. Uh,
there was a.

Speaker 4 (02:48):
Why you asked a question. You know, I'm gonna do
it anyway, but you do it with.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
So much joy.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
And I've never seen you, Like remember when Chadwick was
getting tired of I've never seen that face whatever.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Yeah, he was like, hey, let me let me do it.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
When it comes on, like it gives me hype, Like yeah, definitely,
like like start something within me. But I just love
how like every time it comes on, like it's like
if me Dmitri are in the same room or me,
Dmitri and Clear are in the same room. It's like
a Western where like we look for each other, we
see each other, and then we just go a little.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Vision back that ass up.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, like what that that ass up does.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
To black people, to black women. It's like I have
to shake my ass right now.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
It's the perfect way to describe it.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Damn. Okay, this is your interview.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Though this is no like I love that this is
all the podcast. I was like, I was like, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
I feel like I feel like it's something my followers
need to know, Like I will I get those comments
like when are.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
You gonna send me this clip so that I can.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
I got clip.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
We would collapse, clip.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
It okay, ok you?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Because I was like, I will never forgive myself.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Like it was like, as we're in the car home,
I looked at my cards and on the third card
I had power line the one but like you gave
me the car without that one because there was two.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, there was two.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
So I was like it was so explosive that, like
and we had gotten into our flow that I'd totally
forgotten about it.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
We got you know, but you should be happy about that.
Like usually people.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Be like, I know what should I do?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Right? But it was natural.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
That's how she asked straight up, like first question out
the gate, do I hate black women?

Speaker 4 (04:29):
On her?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
You should thank you? I'm out there now, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
I thought about whether or not I should thank you
or not. I did think about that, and I'm gonna
thank you. I'm gonna thank you for that. I'm gonna
thank you. But I did think about it because I
was like, I was like, people already don't like the
fact that we suck.

Speaker 4 (04:46):
With each other.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying, So like they're probably
gonna be like that shit don't matter. He talking of
franky like that.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I feel like those people are at that point, and
that's why I asked it so bluntly.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, because at that point, and that's why I also asked,
are we really friends? Like these are things that I've
been seeing people talk about our relationship, our friendship.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Why do I sell funk with you?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
And I was like, this is a perfect way to
answer all those questions bluntly, because if I was like, yo,
why is it that like some people think you don't
like black women.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Versus like do you like black? Am I a beer woman?

Speaker 4 (05:24):
You know what I mean, black, Let's get a picture real.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Quick, serious, and you know what, you answered it correctly.
I I actually won't see that edit. That episode won't
come out until.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
March, perfect, perfect, right after Black History Month.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Right after I don't think that's the thing we should.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
No.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
No, would have came out during a Black History people
would have been like, this is.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Real draft, it's very goody Black History Month, but.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
A topter Woman's History Month, which I think is even
that is.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
This is even Yeah, hey, it could have been during
Blackest three month.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
It could have been during Women's Mouth. Who's not gonna
wait until fucking April.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
But yeah, I think that the whole point was to
just show yourself candidly, and I was trying, I'm grappling
with when I see the editor, am I gonna put
that space where I make it seem like you thought
about it, because you immediately were like, no, I'm raising
a black woman, I'm dating a black woman.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
My mother is a black woman.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Like obviously I messed with them and it was just
honestly a misunderstanding. Yeah, And that's how this social media
game works, where it's like one misunderstanding and you are
the villain of you know, West World.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
But you know what, like the thing that like I
have to wrestle with a lot and like something I
feel like i've gotten good at in like the last
like year or two is just like letting people letting
myself be the villain in other people's stories, yeah, because
you know, like I don't feel nor have the energy
to kind of like let people see my.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Side of things.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
I'm like, yeah, if you see that, like I'm you
don't watch one Piece like that, Like I remember you
were starting one Piece.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, but I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Get into a little bit of like a moment that
like it was during the strike, and we're gonna get
into this too. It was during the strike and I
was just kind of like you in my like little
one piece rewatch as I love, you know, yeah, you know,
just rewatch one Piece shit only because like that's all
I was doing at the time, despite what people basically
we'll get into that, but I was watching it and

(07:27):
there was this moment where uh Loofy goes to the
Fishman Island and like, you know, you know, pirates in
the world, they're pirates. People think that all pirates are
like pillagers. They're rapists or violent this and this and
that Luf is furthest from that that is those those
things right exactly. So this all, I don't want to
say it all came to a head, but I feel
like the strongest version of this was when he goes

(07:47):
to this fishman island. He's helping the princess, he's helping
the king, but there's this separate other fishman that's trying to,
like usurp the king, and he's like causing discord among
the people.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Is separate from our Long.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
This is separate from our Long.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
This is almost like this is almost like a part
two to the Arlong thing, because it turns out Arlong
was part of these pirates and he believes in the
same ideals that they do, but like it's more of
a radical version.

Speaker 4 (08:08):
He's the Malcolm X of this version.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Yes, Arlong is like very much the like I feel that, like,
fuck these humans, Da da da dah. But then there's
this other fishman named Fisher Tiger, who is the Martin
Luther King who believed that all fishmen and human. And
so now we have the present day where we have
the king and the other fishmen who are like we
want to be a kingdom who are like with it
with the other kingdoms of the world. We want to
be recognized. But a lot of fishmen are enslaved. A
lot of deep things happening here. But Lufy comes to

(08:33):
this island. There's this other fish person who was Arlong's boy,
who's sowing discord within all the fish people, and he's
using Loofy and his title is a pirate to like
sow that discord and like frame him as a villain.

Speaker 4 (08:44):
Right now, the arc comes to a head.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
The ARC's pretty weak, but it comes to a head
where there's like an army of one hundred thousand bad fishmen,
right and they're like saying like, yeah, we're gonna save
this place. And then Loofy shows up and there's like
the civilian people who are watching. And then Loofy and
his crew shows up, and Loufy has done both good
and bad while he's been there, so they don't know
what to think about why he's there. Right, So there's

(09:08):
this moment where Lufy's just like walking off the ship.
It's like the coldest fucking walk you can think of.
His hat is down and whatnot, and the whole time
you're hearing these people like shouting at him, like like,
is it true that you kidnapped the princess? Is it
true that you tried to assassinate our king? Are you
here to destroy us? Are you here to help us?
Like say something, who are you?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
What are you?

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Are you our friend or are your enemy? And Lufy
lifts up his hat and says friend or enemy? Huh,
that's up to you, Like he's like, that's what you
think about me has nothing to do with me, right,
and that Like I saw that moment during the strike
where it like it felt like the whole world was
coming down and everyone's calling me a scab for literally

(09:47):
like on the first day of the strike, saying like, oh,
I'm gonna keep doing what I always did, like I
still have without say it was a it was but
like but at the same time, it wasn't like I
was saying, like was like in my mind, I believe
like I'm not an actor, I'm not a writer. A
scab is someone who's taking the jobs of writers on doing.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
That, And I'm like everybody the same thing when the
writers strike happened, right, they didn't.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Stop there, and they didn't stop what they were.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Doing and Honestly, I think people, and I said this
on our interview, I think people punish you for being a.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
You know what I'm saying, like, or for just being like,
I don't know, like not knowing things or you know.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
And at the time, I was only like in social
media like three years or so.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
It's like the first strike we had unprecedented they didn't
even so this is the gag. I, oh, man, I
don't want to. I know someone who's on the sack
board and when that was all and I was asking them, like, yo,
what's going on? And so I'm telling them the controversy
and they're like, we weren't even thinking about job was

(10:56):
basically what he was saying. He was like, I can't
like he was like, I guess acts who shouldn't be
doing social media? But he was like, as far as
like people like you and straw had, we weren't even
like because it's a totally different job. That's like saying
journalists can't whatever.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
But I I.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Really think it's a It was a great way for
the community to find a way to separate us from journalism,
which is something.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
That they love to do.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Because nobody was saying that to New rock stars.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
I was just about that they were rock stars.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
They weren't saying that to like, they weren't saying it
to anybody who was like on YouTube who did the
same ship.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
That we we're just doing it on TikTok.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
They're asking that. I was like, are we boycotting?

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Like these are things that needed clarity, and like, yes,
I thought that skit was.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
It was poorly but I get that.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
But but you got answers, and once you got answers,
you didn't double down. You you said listen, I offended, y'all.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I feel it.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
I'm gonna move on, and I have to admire that that, Like,
you know, whenever you make a mistake or if you
do stuff that people may not find tasteful, you're like, yo,
that's my mistake. I didn't mean to like a fan,
let me move on, right. It's like Kendrick using eskimo, right,
So I didn't know that was a.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I didn't know it.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Just now finding it out, right now I learned.

Speaker 2 (12:14):
But like imagine we canceled him for that.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
And it's like the whole part of the human experience,
the whole part of social media, I thought, was to
educate each other and you don't leave room for that, right,
So why would I speak out? Why would I talk
to you better than me? I'd be letting people yelling.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Listen, I used to I used to like really like
just fire back at everybody.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
I first started, like if you go back to my
other videos, every time somebody says something, I was like
right there because like you know, I'm from confident.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
I don't duck from school for nobody. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
So but that's why I say, it was like hard
for me to be like let them think where they're
gonna think about me, Like Sag knows I'm good, Like
the actors know that I'm good. Like you said, they
weren't thinking about us. They didn't even have like influencer
guidelines until like a week or sothing.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Honestly because of you.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
If you didn't, if that didn't blow up, it was
because of you.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
I remember.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
I was like, God, damn it, goofy Now I can't
work because I was like, they weren't even thinking about us.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
But that but that was like a reaction to the people,
right because like again they would have just let us
do whatever. And like the funny story about like the
skit and like, I've never like talked about this before.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
It's like, do you know I feel like what's in
this second interview?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
No? Yeah, this, yeah, this is a candidate right here.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
But god, what is his name? Mace Wind? Like I
think his name is a job.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I love sing so good. Whenever he's live and he's
singing on live, I'm always sad.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
I actually say the video of him singing to a
piece of ice breaking in.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
Sometimes I only hear him when I hear that song.
Now me too, you only hear.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Him I do during my pre workout, like I've taken
the pre workout, I was like, let me listen to
Mace real quick, get into it.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
And then you know, there was a Super Bowl ad
where Paramount took all their characters and Creed was there
and they were singing that song and I can either
of Mace.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I was like, he's saying it better. He's saying it better,
He's saying it yes. I said, you know, what is
that that that you can't replicate? That's what's that from
Sorry to Bother You?

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Right?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Like the black Voice just has a little bit of
texture you can't It's really good.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
But like the reason why like I did the skit
was because I was actually inspired by Mace Wind.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
He does a lot of like very educational.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
Skits and like things that like really work, and I
was inspired by that, and I was like in this
mode where I wanted to kind of like do skits
in my content things of that sort. And I thought
like that was going to be like a good educational
like skit to do to talk about the striking and
like make like light of it while still being funny
with it.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
And that was like really one of like my.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
First like skits in that vein and it didn't hit
and I was and as you know, I haven't done
a skit like that since except for like the comments
the comment. So I took like a couple of year
break off of doing skits because I I was like, fuck,
like I don't want it to get like lost in translation.
Luckily the comments kind of speak for themselves, so I'm
like I'm good there. So like I did that because

(15:07):
literally the day before I saw a May skit of
him talking about it, and I was like I want
to get in on this too, and yeah, and it
just came off the wrong way. But that again, that
was like the first day of the strike, and I
was just kind of like, well, shit, like you know, fuck,
Like that's not what I meant. But you know, but
at that point people were just kind of like, nah, bro,
you're done.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
That's the price of art and the price of I
take it. Once you put it out, the way it's interpreted,
your your intentions no longer matter. Yeah, interpretation is up
to the to the audience, and honestly, the way it's
interpreted will vary by what's going on at the moment,

(15:45):
how the audience feels, and it's very volatile, right, Like,
there are so many things that we've received well that
we look back on and we're like, this is actually terrible,
and vice versa. There are things that we didn't receive
will and we look back and we're like, Okay. I
think my big thing too, is that, well that that
skit wasn't a joke. But I think when people do

(16:07):
do skits ingest and then we take it as this
big offense. I think that's something on social media that
it's so quick to dog pole that we we don't internalize,
we don't take in the art. And that goes to
my point earlier that you know, they don't see us
as artists. They don't see us as journalists, they don't
see us as creative.

Speaker 4 (16:26):
They see us influencers people.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yeah, as their homies.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
They're like, I know you, they think they know us
personally because they're seeing us every single day and so
or that we like I don't know, it's this weird
relationship like we're.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's like we're the and I don't want to like
say this and make people think like, oh, they think
they're popular, but.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
Like I'm just using the we're quite literally popular.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
It's like in a like people know who we are
and like, you know, like people see us more than
they see I'll say that, but I know people are
gonna miss its true it to be like, oh, you
think very highly yourself. It was like, no, that's followers,
Like you know what I'm saying. But I just want
to get the record straight and be like listen, three
and a half million, I like, where are you at
on like TikTok now way less?

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Still forty, it's still a lot through Like yeah, I'm
at one forty a lot, but by the time this
comes out, I'm gonna speak it, I'll probably be at
one fifty.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
But my reach.

Speaker 4 (17:22):
That's the thing your engagement to people.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Be watching me crazy watching. They never they just don't
be They don't be following, they just be watching.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
They just be watching.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
So my reach be like four million, Like I be
looking at my analytics.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I was like, why is my reach so high? Why
are you not watching?

Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's the hate watchers and so like for me and
so like I feel like, like again using the analogy
of like we're the popular kids, right, It's like they
want to think like they're friends with us because it's
a parasocial thing. But at the same time, it's like
a dance monkey dance type of situation. Absolutely, it's like
a shut up and dribble type of situation, right, So like,
and that's something that I definitely struggle with it, Like

(18:00):
I'm a fucking person. I'm just here to talk about movies,
like everybody else is putting extras on it because I'm
not here to offend. I'm just here to give my
opinion on this and like move on. So like that's
why I like urk me when people try to have
like opinions on like my relationship or like I type
my name into TikTok and like, so I had goofy divorce.

Speaker 4 (18:16):
Pops up, and I'm just like, yeah, who's talking about
this shit? Right? Like I've never discussed that.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
I think you particularly not me, but definitely you are
creeping into celebrity status, right yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Like I never consider myself one, but like I see
what you're saying of like creeping like into it.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, Like I saw I saw a coach ad once
and it had Wisdom and Jennifer Lopez, and I was like,
at this point, who is more famous?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Who's the bigger celebrity.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
They're like, if we're if you're talking to a young person,
it's probably Wisdom, right yeah, Like, and they don't they
may not have ever interacted with any art that Jennifer Lopez.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Has put out, except for that documentary she did, the
on the Block.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
I didn't watch, but.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
We're all sat when Wisdom dropped something.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
And I think my earlier is that, you know, I
I really think it's these big companies and the people
who did work that hard, right, who want to discredit
what social media is and what it does, and so
they don't see people like you, Charlie Demillio like stuff
like that. We're not We're just TikTokers, okay, but we

(19:31):
produced short films.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
We did these things.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
We we did the research on the same scale of
the journalist of a writer of whatever, and a lot
of times the production value is on. Zay Dante did
a music video for his like when rappers don't aren't
relatable and it is the quality of.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Rocky No like asap Rocky video.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Yes, I was watching. I was like, why is this
hardy video? It's color grated to perfection, It's it's like.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Five different scenes.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
It's called like a trust fund baby or something, and
I was just watching it. I was like, how dare
people try to say we are not artists, that we're
not creative. I just watched something with Benny Blanco that
didn't have a third of this production. But I think
it's I really think it's us being like tied to capitalism.

(20:28):
That ship just really popped off. We're like, how dare
you not go through the white man to get this success? Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
We like like that's why I think that's so beautiful
and like you need to you need to get on
this like Power of Joy with Disney.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
They don't they don't fuck with me. They know who
I am.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
But they I was like, I don't know why I'm gonna.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
I think some of it is that I critique Marvel.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
I critique, but I don't think I'm the only one
who critiques smart Marble critic. Yeah, but I'd be like,
what's going on here? This is propaganda?

Speaker 2 (21:00):
But I don't know. I really don't know.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
And I was hating because I was like, some of
these people are just beauty influencers.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
They don't even talk listen. But let me tell you though,
It's like I've never been so validated and so surrounded
by like a room of black talent, Like I remember
being in a room. It's like me Cleo, Dimitri, Smooth, Jazmine,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like Lauren, I'm blinking
on the last name. I'm sorry, girl, Like I know
you're about your first name, Lauren and Jasmine Sullivan like

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all these creators like who are top of their game,
self made like Jayla, Like we're talking like these are
people who like made themselves and like we're all black,
right talking to people at ESPN, like ahead of ESPN Films,
who's a black person?

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Like someone at Hulu who's black.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
We're just all surrounded by just black excellence, and like
that was the beautiful thing of like knowing that we're creators,
right and that like I was happy to be there,
like along with my boy Bryce who Bryce Vaughan, who's
also a movie creator, like representing the movie side of that, right,
and yes, like being like all on that feeling like
I've made it in this sense, cause like you know,

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I've been doing things quite like I've been doing a
lot of things, like I've posted at the oscars, I've
hosted red cards and stuff like that a lot of times,
like I'm hosting with like white people or like, but
that was the moment where I was like that the
Ryan Coogler moment, like fucking recently with one of them
days Issa, Kiki and Siza, Like I'm like, this is
the shit that I love being in a room with

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people at the top of our game, like being recognized
as like at the top of our game, and that
I would not trade that shit for anything.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Honestly, it sounds like I went to an HBCU and
that was the most motivating part of it, right, like
when I was at a white school or just like
in a non black arena, I already have people's attention
because I'm black, and then I'm talented, So then now
I just have to show my talent.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
But when you're in a room full of talented.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
Black people who all worked, we're all working at the
same capacity, right, we all know that we have to
over do it.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
We're all just trained.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
We're black ops out there, and that that really that
really puts things. It's so motivating to be around black
successful people. And now it's not oh, you're black, so
I'm I'm sad.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
We all black? What makes you special? What makes you different? What?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
What has your passion? What makes your passion unique? And
it's not just motivating, but it is inspiring where you're like, wow,
look at what this person is doing this this route
is very cool, Like how are you incorporating your blackness?
How are you not incorporating your blacktice? How are you
received by outside audience? You know, things like that, and

(23:42):
it is fun. I hope I do get invited to
power Joy.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
I would love we'll see I will put I would
like see who I can talk to about that.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
I want everybody to be a part of.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
That, even even like I'm not I'm even gonna say this,
even if I don't get invited, so you can like
common experience.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
There's there's no way, you're not kidding.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
I listen.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Like I feel like now power Joy is like kind
of like created this like.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Empire that can't stop. I don't want to say empire.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
But like now there for instance, they did a power
Joy event in Florida. Yeah, and you know they invited
a lot of the East Coast power Joy people because.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
That I'm trying to get you there.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
But like they they it was like the first big
one that was in Disneyland, and then they split us
up when they did one in Florida, and then they
did like another like mini one like with.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
The West Coast people.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
So I feel like now they're just trying to like
find like the spaces and they get spread and I
think it's like I hope Disney like keeps that thing
going because you could tell that a lot of the
black people are Disney Are like we're making this happen,
like we're the ones trying.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
To like do you think it will now?

Speaker 4 (24:47):
I think it will. I think it will, and like
to be honest, to be honest, I think now.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
That the creators are tapped in, like we have a
group chat. Now there's like a giant as.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
Group chat all of us.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I think the creators will keep going, right, Like we're
already talking about like doing something get togethers and stuff
like that in our own right Me Cleo and Demitri
and this might be an exclusive are trying to do,
like because it's a thirt year anniversary of a Goofy movie,
So we're trying to.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Do something with that.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
Whether that's a screen in, whether that's a big as party,
we don't know. But like I think us as black
creators aren't like now more tapped in than ever. And
what's kind of weird about that, It's like Disney is
the one that kind.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Of like kicked that off.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
And you know how people like have this weird relationship
with Disney where it's like we like some of your products,
but like your practices.

Speaker 4 (25:34):
Yeah you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
So like it's it's the best version of like I
don't want to say like they needed a makeover or
anything or pr or like whatever, because I truly do
think it was done with great intentions. But who knows
if people will start to see Disney as like the
ones who spearheaded that thing, because It's so easy for
corporations to like do it because you see what Target

(25:58):
did right there was like we rock with George Floyd,
but not like thank you know, I've.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Been seeing that writing on the wall before the election,
where like I noticed a lot of these black programs
that were out, we're getting rolled back because.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
You could just say we're not doing over. You could
just say we're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
They had to remove the program, fire people.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
They were waiting.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
We'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
I think the white women will start shouting very soon
because they are the biggest manufactors of d I and
I think that's something that wasn't considered yea, And so I'm.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Just waiting on them.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
It was like for the white women that lose their
jobs so I could get mine back.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Who did you invite on this damember?

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Remember what Ray said for everybody black facts? And then
while they made a whole song literally called for everybody's
but I'm pretty sure that is no me. It was
called Sumi and literally the hook is sum mer root
for everybody to black like it was great.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Was supposed to be.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
He was supposed to be the guy he was supposed
to be, And I don't know what it is, but.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
People hate Wila.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
I remember I went to an R and B Okay,
so there's this like party group like everyday people called
R and B only incredible.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
And I know the owner of it. So I went to.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
They did a music festival once in Atlanta, and while
A was there, so I'm there with all my friends,
I was.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Like, yo, Wallet's come, I can't wait.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
They was like wile and they're trying to play around
wil A and I was like, y'all are bugging while
A got bangers and we went there.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
He was one of the best performances.

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Yes, and mcge was there. I loved they do Lois Flower.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
He did Lowest File. No, not together.

Speaker 3 (27:55):
They didn't do it together. No, Miguel didn't come out
on stage. But I know, listen, I'm sure I'm not.

Speaker 4 (28:04):
Miguel.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
No, I can't talk bad about him, like meet him.
But he came a bit later. He came a bit later.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Okay, he seemed preoccupied, so that's why he didn't. But
he did play that he played so he had He
uses so much R and B in his music, and
that was the thing. I was like, why did they
have this rapper here when it was like Lucky Day
and stuff there.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
But then when he played.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
It, I was like, oh, he has all these R
and B songs. You know, DC songs, Go Go is
basically musical. Theater would rap.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
On it, Hamilton.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
That's probably where lin Manuel man, Well, well got.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
It, you said he got, Yeah, he got I think
he inspired mostly by Diddy.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
I know he shouldn't say the word. I know, like
this is the thing. Dinny is awful. I get it.
I hate him.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
You know, I'm not gonna listen to any of his music.
Impact that did he had R and B.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
It's it's undeniged came out.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I listened to it one last time when Cassie came
out with her allegations, I said, let me listen to
one perspective, and you're.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Like, this is the final.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Listen listen like I am a firm believer, like great
art can come out of horrible people and mostly does,
and it kind of does, like like and again, don't
you dare say I'm a Hitler sympathizer that nigga. I
will say that on my pot Hitler, But motherfucker was
a good artist, Like he made some good paintings.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
I can't do that.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
I feel like, we don't know Hitler first art. I've
never seen.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
No, we don't, we don't. I have no no, no,
Like you're going there opposite like it was it. He
was a social but again horrible, horrible person.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
But what I'm saying is is like somebody like I
remember I was on this website think it was called
nine Gag at the time. I saw it in college
and like there was like somebody was doing this paintings.
He was like, oh look at this, look at this.
And I saw this one painting. I was like, it's
pretty good.

Speaker 4 (29:54):
And somebody said, oh, yeah, that's Hitler's painting.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Why are we even showing his painting?

Speaker 4 (29:58):
I was like, why is this? Said?

Speaker 2 (30:00):
What was the painting of?

Speaker 4 (30:01):
It was like like a house and some trees and ship.
He could pay, the motherfucker could pay.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
He could pay, But was there was there feeling?

Speaker 4 (30:09):
It didn't make me feel. It didn't make me feel.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
All I'm saying is it's like, out of all the
ship that he did in his life, the one good
thing he did was a drawing.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
It was it was.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
A painting, right, So like I'm like, even the most
monstrous person has the capacity to do like something good,
I guess, but like somebody like did he He just
so happened to be like a monster that did a
bunch of ship and fuck him for everything that he did.
And I don't need to listen to any of his music.
I'm good with that. The only song that I listened
to from R Kelly because I can just literally leave

(30:40):
it on the floor.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
I believe I could fly.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
YESA Fiessa Fiesta was the hardest for me to get up.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Yeah I could, I could do.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It was hard. How did that one go? Because I'm
Yesta fiesta?

Speaker 5 (30:53):
Dang that. I'll tell you this is the time where
I can separate the artists from a few.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
It's just I believe it's just. I believe that's the one.
Not even when.

Speaker 4 (31:12):
You watch Space Jaw, I don't you don't watch Yeah,
I don't think.

Speaker 3 (31:16):
That's that you're supposed to feel nostalgia for. But I
haven't rewatched Wait, So so.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
First off, that's blasphemy. How have you not watched Rewatch?

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Because I'm afraid it's bad. I'm afraid of a rewatching
the movie.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Maybe because of a commercial that Michael Jordan did with
but it's still begs.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
Bro I said this before, like off off camera, I
saw Michael Jordan's act on s n L.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
You're good. I'm good that that doesn't matter. You're not
there for Michael Jordan.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
You're there for bugs, Daffy Duck, You're there Watch Plus Beatle.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
It's like the Bad Guy watched Bill Murray.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
These are people can see everywhere else.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
And there's a scene that you would love this.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
There's a seed in New York where Charles Barkley tries
to play basketball with some girls.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
It's pretty sexist when you think about it, like now, So.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
I don't I don't want to analyze like that.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
There is like a scene where like he tries to
play basketball because he lost his talent, and like he's
playing against like these girls, but like I just choose
to see them as like young like high school people,
and he's like supposed to be a pro.

Speaker 4 (32:27):
And he can't like play against them. And then he
tries to shoot.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
She jumps blocks his shot so bad it goes You
ain't Charles Barkley. You just want to be that look
like h I do remember that sorry break out. That's
like the one time of like Charles Barkley got the
vidom there that movie is gased and when Michael Jordan
walks out of that fucking spaceship on the goddamn baseball
field and you hear that you stuff. For some reason,

(32:52):
such an angelic song should not be playing in that moment,
Like it should just be like some regular run of
the mill whatever. But like when I watch Space and
that shit come on, I'm.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Like, and that said, you're like, god bless America, God
bless America.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Black man walking into a white man's sport. I say,
it dominated some dudes.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
And you know what's crazy. He was a known pedophile.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
At that time, Michael Jordan or R Kelly R.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Kelly, when they came for that song, they knew, they
actually knew there.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Was there was.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
He was known for a while.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Tabes and people still worked with him.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
He was known for a while. And I'm shot.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I'm shocked that it took so long, because remember when
Dave Chappelle was making fun of like the whole like everybody, I.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Was a kid, it wasn't like I didn't conceptualize.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Conceptualize how bad it was until I was.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
Older and I was like this entire time. Y'all knew,
you know what I mean, Like y'all knew it wasn't okay.
The Lea marriage was the first indication because.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
She was was married to Lee until all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Until I got older.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, but people knew it was out, but reputable sources
like the Chicago Times was was reporting it. And then
there was video evidence which happened before easy. But we
were babies when it came out. I was like ninety five,
and they.

Speaker 5 (34:07):
Some of us were, and he knew, and some of
us were about to graduate high school when we.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Were we were babies. All I knew was.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
That I didn't know. We sang it out our eighth
grade graduation.

Speaker 4 (34:22):
I sung that too.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
After the videos.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
After the videos were out, they said, you know, out
of Catholic school. I went to Catholic school. They said, yo,
you know what would really pop off? Father John said that,
He said, r Kelly.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
Can I tell you this though? This is the thing.
There was this cultural just aspect of I believe I
can fly every church. Yes, middle school, high school graduation.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
It just.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Four years insane.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
We should have known what the president is saying. We
should have known.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
We should have known that was the pilot cleanser. Like
once black people can get the ray with things, then
like it's.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Acceptable, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Like that was the beginning. Yeah, but you know we
need to find like good people again. You know who's
a good person?

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Key weak one?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Yeah you just said that, give me jealous whatever.

Speaker 3 (35:15):
I'm sure he's great. I'm sure it was fabulous. You
got to learn how to do like stunt.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
It was. I saw him at the premiere too. We
hung out at the after party, and it was like juju.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
I was like, every time he says my name, he
has this like jovial presence that is so endearing. Yeah, yeah,
he seems like a really great guy.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
I'm a really great guy.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Although is like like I was reading the comments on
that video we did together and like thank god, like
TikTok now puts like the like the filters at the Yeah,
before it was at the bottom and I got scrolled
through to get to it, and like so now it's
at the top and I saw there was like fourteen
and I like to look at like what was filtered?

Speaker 4 (35:52):
Every last one of them was like so does he
know you're a scrap?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
And I was just like I filtered, the word scat,
the word yeah, as you ship, I did, as you sho,
every last one of the every.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Last one of them saying the same thing.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
They think that they think these actors won't say no
to you, like if you actually scab, you don't think
that they would have the autonomy.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
You don't think that they know on social media.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
I've had directors.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
I've had well, it was mostly directors who would like
see what I'm not gonna say who, But it was
a director who had two movies out and he saw
that I didn't give the first one a favorable review,
and like.

Speaker 4 (36:28):
I thought I was pretty tame with it.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
I was just kind of like, yo, like there's a
second one coming out, like this one show the whole Yeah,
we you know, we can put the dots together, but
like you could go back to my review and it's like, hey,
like there's a second one coming out there. Apparently there's
like another version, so like this isn't the whole thing,
so we'll wait for the second one. But it just
didn't work for me, right, And this is a director that,
like I go to bat for on a lot of

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different movies.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
More than me, which is crazy, you know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
And like, especially for someone who's considered I'm not gonna
say it.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, but I remember I was doing this thing for
I'm not even gonna say like it was for. I
was doing a thing and it was a red carpet
thing and I was interviewing all the people that had
movies coming out, and I saw this person's name on
the list and I was like, okay, cool, we had
questions for him, and then only the actor came out

(37:18):
and I was like, where's the director and they said, oh,
he specifically requested it that he does not talk to you.

Speaker 2 (37:24):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
And I was like why and I was like, oh,
it's because I said this. You made it.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Because I saw a buddy of mine who also didn't
give a favorite view on that same line, and he
was looking at me like me neither.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
That made me go, like, people are watching our stuff.
They do have power to refuse, Like what like our services?

Speaker 3 (37:42):
You think they're not on social media, they're not in
your prominent figure.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Especially what happened to me that was everywhere Like it was,
like I.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Said, I think the entire reason why SAG actually put
in things about influencer and how that looks is specifically
for you, Like, I don't think it would be a
far stretch to say that, you know, like any movie
directors looking at review at this point, right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
I have not gotten any like pushback or any person
in the industry saying like, yo, what you.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
Did during that time? Fuck you da da da da.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
I've gotten like maybe one job like that where somebody
said I don't like how we acted during the strike.
But then I knew just from that verbiage. I was like, Oh,
you're just like everyone else who don't know.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
How that went down. Everyone else straight up told me like,
you're fine.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
We saw it was because it wasn't that.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
It wasn't it wasn't that big of a deal.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
It's just like this.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Whole thing with the Spider Man thing. And someone was like, well,
why didn't we cancel? Should meek more? And I was
like for being a dweep, Like was he just the
first tweet wasn't even she wasn't tagged in it.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
It was terribly timing. Maybe it was a subtweet of her,
but sometimes we put that on him.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
Now he was very weird with old girl.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
I don't know. Yeah, so maybe he should be fine.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
That it's the timing of all these things, right. It's
like I feel like, just like how intent versus impact
is the whole thing. Timing of things is very but.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
As I said before, you don't it's so hard to decipher.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I mean, and you got an err on the side.
And that's why I like, lately I've been trying my bad.
I was like, I'm just gonna review my things and
go and even then, like I think the other day
I spoken about Castlevania and I talked about like themes
that I thought that made me uncomfortable, and.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
People who were tearing me in shreds. I was like,
this is an opinion. They're not.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
It's not Caslvanian not getting canceled because I said I
didn't like this specific thing.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
You can explain why it's there.

Speaker 3 (39:46):
It still doesn't make me less comfortable about it. But
people just they thrive, particularly on TikTok. The whole thing
is like, how do I be mad?

Speaker 4 (39:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
How am I A?

Speaker 4 (39:59):
You're seeing it with the fantast for stuff right now?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Angry about the thing, the thing, the way he looks,
he's never looked good live action.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
There's not one I think he looks the best here.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
I think he's more like practical effects.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
It's practical effects help with c g I. And I
don't think the CGI is fully finished.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Okay that both those things could probably be true.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
I showed the picture creg pull it up.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
But I think that he looks I My hope was
that they did practical effects exclusively, because I think c
g I is just not.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
What it is.

Speaker 1 (40:32):
The thing is like the thing with me is like, well,
that's how he looks, like, that's literally how he looks
in the silver age comics, right.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think it's also.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I think some of it too, actor, Yeah, some of
it too is the act that they chose His face
isn't the shape I get that I think would be
conducive of a good thing.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Does that make I get that?

Speaker 4 (40:56):
But he's going to be under rock anyway?

Speaker 3 (40:57):
Right?

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (40:58):
But like I think the thing should have a more circular,
square type face, and he has a long face like mine. Yeah,
you know what I'm saying. Get that C g I
ing and and putting practical effects around it, it's always
going to make him look narrow and a little bit different,
a little bit odd. Also saying about when he put
his finger in his mouth, it was very literally because

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it made.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
The smack sound like and I was like it was
like smacking rocks.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Yeah, the effects sound.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
People should have worked on that. They should have just
sucked on.

Speaker 4 (41:31):
They still got Yeah, I don't mind it.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
I think he looks really good. He looks he's not finished.
He looks very silver age like. I think that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
The costumes are so great.

Speaker 4 (41:46):
The costumes are yeah, but like him doing a little
people people are like really hating things.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
I wonder you know, Rita is the only one we
haven't seen him display his powers if.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
He has it, I think, you know what, man, the
stretchy power has always been a tricky power to get down.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
You know who did do it right? And not bad
plastic man in the Flash. It's actually done well.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
It was done pretty well. It is done pretty well
in the Flash. But like the CW Show always had
like questional CG.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
So it was like they had.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
Twenty two episodes to do CG I for and like
a ten dollars budget.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
That's true, you can't be you got it. You gotta
give it to him for.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
That the whole thing. Like it's like it's great.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
I still haven't seen it it's I haven't even seen
the trailer.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
It's a great trailer, is well.

Speaker 5 (42:40):
We were talking about this earlier. I said, if there's
a movie that I'm absolutely going to see, regardless, I
won't watch the trailer.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah, are about Fantastic four, which is why you got
sucked into that.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
No, No, I'm in Okay, I've been in Okay. Yeah,
it's a good I.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Mean, it's entertaining tailer. I was shocked that it's taken
so long to get the trailer done.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, they've been showing it like at a lot of
cons too, Like they showed it at D twenty.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
They didn't show all of that, but they did show
kind of like the.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Opening where he's all like oh, like you know them
on the TV, like, oh, he's a great pilot. They
showed that type of stuff, a little bit of costumes,
but they never show like the full thing. So they've
been like shopping around like sizzle reels of it for
like a year now.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
I don't know, maybe they had a lot of work
to do, but it's funny. Someone tweeted when the Superman
trailer came out, like, if it was me, I dropped
my Fantastic four trailer right now, Kevin. They asked, and
I was like, you know, I felt like it's been quiet,
like on the Marvel front. When Fantastic four is coming out,
I should know I should be just as hype for

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Fantastic four as I am for you gotta.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Past these things out because Marvel Marvel is now like
I don't want to. I don't want to use the
word oversaturating. You can use it if you want to,
but it just feels like there's so many projects.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
Like this year, we have three projects. It used to
be like one a year.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
Then it went like to two year, and that's where
I like the limit was, like should have been reached.
Now it's like you can't show something because this is
two movies ahead of Captain America. So like you already
have that Thunderbolt and then this, So I think like
they're pace.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
That's true, like three, that's true, but it's ship I
don't know, And you're right.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
When we get closer, I want to.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
See for them, and I wanted to go crazy. I
wanted to be everywhere that I look. I love fantastic,
that's where there's fantastic and fantastic.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Frankie.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Really we got five minutes. You ain't asked me no
questions because because we have a flow.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
We have a flow that BLUs. This is like me
bringing you back for episode two with you?

Speaker 4 (44:41):
So is that what it is?

Speaker 1 (44:44):
It's all right, let's let's let's play a game, because
first off, we did learn some franky lore.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
I didn't know Fantastic Frankie was based off of and
you're a DC girl, a D girl? Did you tell
them that?

Speaker 3 (44:58):
I mean I did said that on care James Gunn. No,
James Gunn is ahead of you know, and he started
at Marvel And honestly, a big part of Marvel and
DC culture is that we borrow from me. Yes, So
I don't think that that's crazy and it's funny. I
actually got my name in Ghana. I was there for Dirty,
the very first Dirty December, and at the time I.

Speaker 4 (45:21):
Was Dirty December, Duty was dirty.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
It is dirty, but Duty is like duty Patua version
of it, and they do it's like our pilgrimage for
the African diaspora.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
So people from all.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Over the world go to Ghana in December and there's
a huge music festival like burnabley Wiscy and Thames are
all there.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
And we just for a week.

Speaker 4 (45:48):
To talk about this.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, you saw me got it? I definitely because I
went back. But yeah, the first time I went, I
was thinking about it. It was twenty eighteen and I
was thinking about him. Talk to my friends.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
I was like, yo, I want to start a YouTube page.

Speaker 3 (46:04):
And that's where we came up for our name. We're
driving up the most dangerous fucking mountain I've ever been
on with no railings on talking about because I was
about to die. I thought I was going to die,
so I was like, you know, before I die on
this bus trying to go see Sanctuary, I want to
say that I've always wanted to do a show called

(46:25):
Let'sbie Frank, and like, I wanted to talk about you
got I was a closeted nerd at the time, like
so I was with the brunch crew.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
So I was like, hey, y'all, I gotta tell y'all.
I love comics, I love anime.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
I don't even know what I'm wearing right now, dressed
you know, we die here it is and and they
were really supportive and they were like do this.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
I came out the closet. It was tied. I used
to be quiet about it all the time. I used
to go on dates.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
I remember I went to go see uh Captain America.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
I think the winter is so old.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
On a day it was either that or the Third
One or Civil War with a guy who was just.

Speaker 4 (47:07):
Oh my god, you're just like I.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Felt like Lindsay Lohan and mean girls because he was lying.
So he was saying stuff, and in my head I
was like, wrong, You're so wrong. So he was like, yeah,
this guy, his name is h he's talking about like
Rody and he was he was calling the wrong person, Patree.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
What was this guy's name.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I'm not say name.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Listen, if you're watching this, watch, I'm sure he still
watches like he's like, Wow.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
That girl, that girl knows.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
He knows that I was a liar in that case
though right.

Speaker 1 (47:39):
Honestly, the worst case scenario, he probably thinks he put
you on. He probably thinks he.

Speaker 4 (47:43):
Puts you onto that ship day.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
Worst case scenario, that's crazy, like more than more than likely.
He was like, oh wow, look at her now she's
on DC Studio showcase.

Speaker 4 (47:53):
I made that.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
I did that. I made that. I made that happen.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
You didn't do it, bro, it was happening entire time
before we get out of here, play a quick little
game and this is we're just gonna do it, and
then like we're out of here, all right, then you
can plug yourself and we're good. All right, all right,
So this remember when I used to do Movie Soul
Made Challenge. Yes, we're gonna do that here and this
is the DC edition, all right. So you know the
drill I give you, like a topic, I'll give you

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two options, give you a second to think about it.
I count the three. We say our answers at the
same time. If they match up, if we get enough,
we'll be Movie so mad or DC so mad DC.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
You know.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Let's see, this is hard for me because like I'm
not the biggest DC.

Speaker 4 (48:32):
No, I'm a fan. I'm a fan.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
I'm just saying, like when it comes to the knowledge,
like I'm nowhere near you, all right, you ready, yes,
best James Gunn DC project, the Suicide Squad or Peacemaker.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
You a chance to think about it.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
I feel like you already know alright ready one, two, three, Peacemaker.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Okay, it's excellently, it's great.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
You can't have it without suicide. He got the groove,
the dance alone.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
Joe the Dan the fucking intro is one of the
best intros to ever exists.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
I need to learn the.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Whole dance, and it's so on theme with that. And yeah,
I hope he doesn't change it, but he has to
because some people.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, it's changed, it's definitely changing.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
I hope it's better, all right. Best Batman villain depiction
he Fledger's Joker or Colin Ferrell's Penguin.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
God damn, I never thought about.

Speaker 4 (49:22):
Yeah, it's a good one.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
I'm not about that one.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
On the way to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
That's so hard.

Speaker 4 (49:27):
I'm not even sure if I have mine one either.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Okay, okay, all right, all right, listen.

Speaker 4 (49:32):
You got yours?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, I think sure, Okay, Okay. It's gonna be hard
for both of us, and I feel like we're gonna
lose either way. Yeah, three two one penguin. Whoa, we
just made a bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
You know, it's really hard. I think.

Speaker 3 (49:50):
I think the only reason why I said the penguin
is the accent is so out of it is this
world and there are moments that I cannot have. So
she Colin fair like I always forget.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
It's just Penguin, and like it was a high bar
to like, I'll do Danny de Vito too, and to make.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Me rude for someone who I still despicable.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
It's hard.

Speaker 3 (50:13):
It's I don't think I rooted for the Joker. I
didn't want to rooting for him to do Terrible Ship.
I was even, yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
All right, So this is probably an easy answer, but
it's still like a hard choice. I feel like I
know your answer already. Most anticipated twenty twenty five superhero
movie release Superman or Fantastic four. Yeah, one, two, three, Superman.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
Yeah. We talked about it.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
You know, like it's the it's the return of the Mac,
like it's the return on the.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
And you know, and I think the expectation on Fantastic
four is just lower. Yeah, and we're just gonna be,
like I hope I'm pleasantly surprised.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I feel like like that has a higher ceiling to
surprise people. Like I feel like it will be easier
to surprise people with it because like I feel like
it's gonna be great, but it's gonna be like one
of the first great things is Marble is done in
a while? Yeah, you know, all right, best animated DC movie.
Under the Red Hood that's on there or Mask of
the Phantasm.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
M m hmmm, you got it. You got one more
after this? You ready?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:18):
All right?

Speaker 4 (51:19):
One, two, three, Under the Red.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Hood obvious, this is my girl, obviously, This.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Is my girl obviously too.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
I remember you had a video like hyping up phantasm,
so I thought this would be like yeah, no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (51:30):
And I just met this is the first time I
was starstruck ever.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
No Brandon Vietti.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
He is the producer director of that and All of
Your Favorite and the Jackie Chan Adventures.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
But I walked into the green room from out of
the show because we filmed the episodes back to back.
I walked out he was standing there. I was like,
did mind you I met Jim Lee.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
I met just all this and I wanted to ask
and he's like hi, and I was like, exactly was
It's so he didn't know what was going on, but
he ended up being really nice and I just brought
it up when we were on the podcast and I
was like, you're the first time I was ever struck
and I met Jim Lee and fucking James Glock and

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he was like, wow, that's really great, and then we
were able to.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
Roll voice acting perfect perfect and also John Demaggio as
he doesn't get enough credit for his Joker, but he's great.
I'm gonna need some guys. Well not these guys, they're
kind of dead. Like that was such a great delivery
of that line. All right, last one, biggest, biggest DC
what if Batgirl or the animated Batman Beyond movie?

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Okay, okay, got it? Three two one Batman Beyond?

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Wow?

Speaker 4 (52:45):
First one?

Speaker 2 (52:46):
First time?

Speaker 3 (52:47):
You know, I think it's because for the Batman Beyond
there's still a possibility of that happened. But this is
now our Da Vinci code, our fucking lost hand, right they.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
Evidence, They said we'll never see this and there's just
something it was something so malicious.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
How they was finished and they still said got rid
of the foot out that.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
I'm like, this is the now the ninth wonder of
the world, you know what I mean. I think there's
a world where we get Batman Beyond.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Yes, I really, because it wasn't anime.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, like they said, they had a concept. They finished
this film. The Old Girl was showing.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Because Fraser is in it and this is right after
his Oscar win, so that could have been.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
What did we say?

Speaker 3 (53:31):
Michael Key was in it, and he was the best
part of the Flash, so we I know he was
cooking in it. Really I loved him in the Flash
when he was like actually being. I like this just Clyde,
I did too.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
I didn't like the same when he goes old man
Ninja in the kitchen. I did like that.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
I loved.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
I love when he's fighting in the kitchen because that's
how I feel like Bruce Wayne would be if you
rolled up on him, even if he's retired. I love
the fact that he was like, damn, he he lost
his purpose because Gotham was cleaned up. And I also
loved when he's fighting that big thing and Zi and
he like climbs over it and put it.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
Yeah, I say what you want.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
I love the scaling and the power depiction in Snyder's universe.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
I said that, like compared to the to Marvel, and
this is where they should have like really honed in on.
It's like, this is the story of God's the scope
and scale of this.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Even Atlantis, that war in Atlantis looked like, oh my gosh,
if they come up to the surface, where because when
I saw the Wakanda Civil War in the first movie,
it was like every day it was smaller than the
civil war fight. I mean, I've seen more people at
a Kanada concept, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
So I'm like what it was like.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
It was like it was like this is a hided
civilizations that could take over the world. The whole thing
was kill mongers, Like, now, let's take over the world
with fifty And that's why Tala Khan came up and said, oh,
this same ship he really did down, he said, and.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Y'all gonna be selling and banatas tonight like those.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
It's last thing I'm gonna say before out on the spot. Like,
I still think that the Snyder cut Flash reverse time
scene is one of the best superhero scenes to ever
put the film.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
That ship in in the Snider cut. In the Snyder
when you reverse time after everything blew up.

Speaker 3 (55:25):
Oh, I think the way that he depicted the Flashes
so much better than Flash film. I love that he
looked like lightning and that it looked like instead because
the Flash isn't actually a speedstar, right, He's basically hopping
in and out of the speeds. So unless you're you're
not gonna get a scene like McCary, which is the
best beats You're good.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
It should look for that flash scene there.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Day in the future paths before people lose it and
and dash.

Speaker 4 (56:02):
What are the best problems, y'all make a TikTok do
the list of the best spiece.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Don't you dare? That's mine?

Speaker 4 (56:07):
Well, honestly, it's on my podcast, don't you dare.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
I'm drop that ship tomorrow, don't you there. I'll be
like before my boy with a way bigger following takes.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Who brought up the best piece of scene of all time?
I brought up the topic right like I did not
I did?

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Yeah, you said these two and then I started comparing
it that Slash.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
Is the best like Superhero scene ever and it's easy spezzer,
So you know it's my thing. Anyway, Thank you so
much for watching everybody. Frankie plug yourself. Please.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
Yes, you can.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
Find me on all platforms at Fantastic Franky k E.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Why go all cameras for this?

Speaker 4 (56:44):
You know cameras.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
I was like, yeah, what's that? What's that? What's that?

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Cameras that editing?

Speaker 3 (56:54):
You could also watch me on DC Studio Showcase where
we dissect and analyze all the new stuff coming out
of DC Studios. I am the only woman, the only
black person, the only latina, you know whatever.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
But it's very cool.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
We talk about it and we're getting more and more
in depth as we go. So definitely support, watch, leave
comments on YouTube. It's the most accessible podcast I've ever seen.
You can watch it on Max, you can watch it
on YouTube, you can watch it on Spotify.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
I really could.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
Listen to it everywhere. Podcasts are thank you, and they
get better and better. I can't wait for episode six
to come out, which is coming out in February. It
is a black history episode and I get by white co.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Workers the work.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Yeah, we're talking mostly about Milestone. We do bring up
John Stewart and Far Sector, which is my favorite Green
Lantern story, if only because they have fine ass black
aliens in it. They are fine and they're called nah
dead ass?

Speaker 4 (58:04):
Is it is it?

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Two a's the nah?

Speaker 4 (58:07):
I think it's just not the nah.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Yeah, and look at this n A H. Let's see
is it two a's the nah?

Speaker 4 (58:20):
Say it?

Speaker 3 (58:21):
No, they're they're they're they're genderless. Technically they have wings.
But that's also a joke that they're black, so every
time they see you, they're like, oh, she looks just
like a nah and then they were like, but she
don't got no wings. But yeah, they're like black angels
and they look they're dipped in butter. They remind me
of Male from Marcaine. But definitely if you if this

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comes out during Black History Months or Women's History Month.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Definitely watch it.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
It's a black woman, green lantern, and she's on the
planet where emotion is erased, but she opts to keep
her emotion and it's about like monitoring your emotion around people.
A better version of Yeah, honestly, it really is. It's
an incredible short and it's short. Okayit short you guys
could read.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
All right, guys, thank you so much for watching another
episode of Get Reck with try Goofy. I'm sitting here
with fantastic Frankie. Make sure you check her out on
all the places that she told you to check her out,
and make sure you guys leave a comment, subscribe, hit
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to me to tell me that you haven't been seeing
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Speaker 4 (59:23):
Hit the bell.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
All right, we'll catch you next time when we talk
about the next movie. Even though we didn't talk about
a movie.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
Not one movie, we definitely have to do a second one.
We're too are before. I think it's too casual. Yeah,
it because we're actually friends. It's so hard to remember
we're both professionals.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
Next time, we're professionals.