February 20, 2025 • 36 mins
In the premiere episode, meet Lara Logan’s co-host, Luke Coffee, as they discuss the cost of truth, the impact of lawfare, and why Going Rogue is unlike any other show. Raw, unfiltered journalism starts now.
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Luke (00:00):
And God is the author of truth and the
enemy to me is the author of partial truth.
He'll sell a partial truth, oh yes.
You know even just a little.
Lara (00:09):
Yes, they take that tiny little kernel of
truth, because the best propaganda is not
made up completely.
If you have to make it up completely, it's
easy.
You know, my mom used to say a lie has no
legs.
Well, a lie that's like a propaganda lie
that has no legs of its own.
You have to keep making legs for it because
they keep collapsing on themselves because
they're not true.
(00:51):
Welcome to my new show, everybody Going
Rogue with Lara Logan.
We're going to be releasing an episode
every morning on Thursdays, so you can look
out for that.
This is going to be a kind of different
Laura Logan for you.
You get to see me as I am behind the camera,
just myself, and I want to introduce my
(01:13):
sidekick, luke Coffey, the king of bad
suggestions.
Well we'll see.
Luke (01:17):
We'll see Okay.
Lara (01:19):
Yes, who is also a veteran, a recent
veteran of cancel culture, having narrowly
escaped long-term incarceration at the
hands of the Justice Department and a
crooked judge.
Luke (01:32):
That's right.
We're ironically here in DC.
Lara (01:41):
Two months to the date I was convicted for
a January 6th, you know charge and that
terrible crime of yours, lukeke, holding up
a crutch over a crowd of people, when you
heard the screams of people who were being
crushed and praying I was telling people to
stop and pray.
Luke (01:51):
But you know, in this justice system, in
the biden regime, it's uh, it's flipped it,
flipped it, flip-flopped.
That got you accused of assault.
Lara (01:58):
It did so with a deadly weapon, a crutch
which was a crutch that you found on the
ground.
Luke (02:02):
I did yes.
Lara (02:04):
And, if I remember correctly, you said in
the name of Lord Jesus, please stop this.
I did say that.
Which, according to certain people in this
country, is a crime.
Luke (02:15):
It is, and we're here to right that wrong.
Lara (02:19):
Yeah, it's not a crime on this show.
No, it isn't it isn't at all all.
So what are we going to be doing?
Well, we're going to have a big get.
Occasionally, you'll find the right person
at just the right moment.
We'll be talking to some of the people you
don't always hear from right.
(02:40):
I'm always looking.
I want to learn something every time I sit
down with someone, so I want to share that
with you.
And also, somebody in the comments said
we're tired of seeing the same old people.
So that's our job.
Here's to not seeing the same old people.
Luke cheers, yes and um.
I want to make one special mention actually,
because we wouldn't be sitting here, we
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Luke (03:17):
Yeah, boosting that T, that testosterone.
Lara (03:20):
Yeah, so thank you to Chuck.
Thank you, chuck, and in fact, the founder
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the name of this podcast.
So when you hear something, on this show.
Luke (03:33):
It's a solid name.
It really is.
It's a solid name Because, Laura Logan, why
are we going rogue?
What does that mean exactly?
Let's step it back to your career.
She's an award-winning journalist,
world-renowned.
You've interviewed kings and queens to the
scum of the earth.
Lara (03:54):
I've interviewed a lot of people.
That's quite the range, though.
That's interesting.
Luke (04:01):
And you have.
What I'm excited about is that you are
taking the reins.
This is your show.
You have no agenda.
Lara (04:09):
Lots of freedom, no money.
Luke (04:11):
Right, and we'll get to that later folks,
but freedom's hell, freedom's more
important.
That's right, that is so.
Tell us how you got here.
Just an overview of how you got here.
Okay, I'll give you the cliff notes because
I don't want to bore anybody well we'll get
into it deeper.
Lara (04:26):
I I hit the jackpot, the lottery in terms
of how I was born, because I was born to a
wonderful mother and an amazing father and
they were not perfect.
I think that's something important for
people to understand is, as you get older
because I I'm 53 now you get that
perspective on life right and you start to
(04:54):
you realize that happiness isn't perfection
and having great people in your life
doesn't mean they're perfect all the time.
But I was born into a home of love and my
parents were a real example of teaching you
to think for yourself.
So I grew up in South Africa.
I got my first job in journalism at 17.
I worked at a newspaper, so I started in
print and I went from there.
(05:15):
I got the jobs that nobody else wanted to
do.
I raised my hand when no one else was
raising their hand.
So if that was sitting in the newsroom on a
Saturday night waiting for the first
edition to come off the printing presses,
that's how old I am and why did I do that.
Well, the other journalists they had lives.
You know this was a regular job to them.
They'd already made it in a sense.
(05:37):
I was figuring it out, so I was happy to
stay and my job was to take that early
first edition and take copies of that paper
to the morgue and the fire station and the
police department and the hospital and give
them copies, because no internet man, right,
this is what 87, 88?.
(05:58):
And that's how I began to form
relationships, made friends with the guy at
the morgue so he would let me know how many
dead bodies they had from the overnight
violence, the political violence, and the
government didn't want anyone to know, so
they were hiding those bodies, they would
go off.
I had other friends, journalists later that
I met, who had police scanners and would
listen to where the police were going
(06:19):
because they knew they were picking up the
bodies.
But what did I do at 17 years, you know, I
found, uh, I were on my way there into the
mall where he was eventually let me come
and see the bodies.
And why did I need to do that?
Not because I like to look at dead people,
but because I wanted to know how they died.
Were they shot, were they stabbed?
You know that kind of thing.
Were they shot by police, um, or were they
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burned?
Because in south africa at that time, you
know, they were, well, even today doing
everything.
So.
Luke (06:47):
That was morbid but you know, still
inquiring mind like you you have.
It's where it began.
Lara (06:52):
It's.
It probably began from birth.
It probably did, but I worked my way up,
you know, eventually went to the American
networks, was the only person in
Afghanistan, the only you know front-line
journalist Myself and Steve Harrigan from
Fox News he was the other guy, but I was
the only woman and I just put myself in
(07:13):
places, luke, where people had to hire me.
That's what I did.
I forced them to hire me and the only job
interview I ever went to was at British
Morning Television and they asked me to
name some of the correspondents on the show.
I couldn't name one because I'd never
watched the news.
I only ever reported the news.
I just didn't watch it.
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And I got that job.
Can you believe it?
Yeah, and so anyway, I you know.
16 years at CBS and 60 Minutes one of the
greatest periods of my life before.
Unfortunately, my personal awakening came
with a.
It was an early warning sign of what was to
come and where we are now, where people
(07:54):
have lost faith in the news, in the media
and they've become aware of how biased it
has become, because it wasn't that bad when
I was there, but we were always heading in
this direction, actually and a time when
journalists just mix opinion with fact and
no one can really tell the difference
(08:14):
anymore.
But you know what people can tell.
Luke (08:17):
What's that?
Lara (08:18):
They know when someone's telling the truth.
Yeah, they do.
You may not have all the information, you
may not like what someone's saying, but you
kind of know.
You just have that feeling in the pit of
your stomach I'm being lied to or I'm not.
Luke (08:34):
That's why I like you luke well, that's
what connected us, was kind of you
investigating my story and, yeah, you know
what's.
What's so engaging about laura logan is
that she is completely real, she is
authentic, so that all of a sudden the
subject she's covering wall comes down and
it's a true picture of that person.
(08:55):
And so that's what why I'm excited about
this podcast, because you are a journalist
but you're also a the way you interact with
people, you care, and we spent four hours
talking about my story on camera and you
know when it got into the details of my
backstory and and we got to know each other
(09:16):
and we really connected then.
And you know I have been in the media, like
you, for since the beginning of my career.
I started in Hollywood working NBC and
Warner brothers in television and I saw
pretty early on just the corporate
structure of of the industrial media
complex and how controlled it is, you know,
and it was a big turnoff as a, as an artist
(09:38):
and a storyteller and and you know what's
interesting.
You know story is in the most impactful
thing and guess who's the author of story?
god is god's author of all of our stories,
all our stories, and there's an enemy that
wants to come in and and and pervert that
story, and and and and lie to us and
deceive us, and it will use the media, and
(10:00):
the controlled media, to do that.
As we figured it out, you know.
And then I spent, you know, 16 years as a
commercial director, as a professional
propagandist, and I guess, during, during I
mean that's what I was and I was working
with the corporations that would pay,
without agencies that would pay me.
That you know to, to, you know, trick
people into thinking they're not enough,
(10:21):
and that's exactly what it is.
And during COVID, that's when I really got
confronted with what I was doing.
I'm part of this machine that is
propagandizing the world, the world stage,
and is it doing good?
No, it's not.
And then we saw it being used for evil and
(10:43):
fear based.
You know.
Remember that back in 2020, when the world
changed, oh yeah, still, you know what I
would say?
Lara (10:50):
it changed even before that, when they went
off to donald trump for being donald trump,
that's right, and he was never allowed to
be seen as a human being, was never allowed
to be normalized as a president, which is
how they described it in their instruction
manual that they gave to supporters at the
beginning of 2017.
I really thought it went evil there,
because you couldn't say how.
(11:13):
I think the Steele dossier is a bunch of BS.
There's not a single firsthand source in
this.
I can't verify any of it.
I can't verify any of it.
I don't believe any of it.
Right?
You couldn't say that without being a rabid
right winger, exactly, you know, and a oh,
she's a crazy Trump person.
It's like-.
Luke (11:31):
Dog whistle, terms that they just blatantly
lose.
Lara (11:33):
Yes, I didn't even know who Donald Trump
was at that point.
He was some reality TV guy.
I sold the Trump Hotel in New York because
I worked not far from there, so it didn't
make sense to me.
What was all this about?
Why did they have to demonize us?
Why did they have to write all these things
about me that were not true?
(11:54):
And then you realize, when you're in that
position I think there's so many people
who've lived through this now you realize
that there's just nothing you can do.
You can't pick a fight with someone online.
You're not going to win that fight and you
don't even know if it's a person.
Half the time it's a bot or it's an
operation.
It's a team of people and their only job is
getting rid of you.
(12:18):
And you start to realize how ruthless these
people are and how evil they are.
They really don't care.
They went after my husband, they went after
my family.
There were people hoping I got divorced,
and all of this because they didn't like
what I reported on Benghazi.
You know, because the timing of it, because
it was right when Hillary Clinton was
supposedly going to fulfill her destiny as
the first female president of the United
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States of America and my story got in the
way because they abandoned people.
They left them to their deaths in Benghazi
and they were doing bad stuff and they
didn't want anyone to know about it.
Yet another off-the-books operation from
the CIA, and so they were going to.
If they can push you to suicide, they've
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won.
They've absolutely won, won.
It's not enough to make sure that you lose
your job.
They don't want you to ever be hired again
by anybody, and if you take your own life,
then bingo right, they've hit the jackpot,
absolutely.
Who does that?
Luke (13:13):
right who does that.
Lara (13:15):
They wanted to do that with Big Balls, luke.
Big Balls, that big balls, that's right,
big balls, who just came out big balls is
an iconic figure now because he is one of
the very, very first to immediately survive
the onslaught right.
Luke (13:29):
Well, this, during this whole time, you
know the george orwell quote and I think
he's like, I mean, he's a prophet or he had
the script, I don't know but he, he said in
a time of universal deceit, telling the
truth is a revolutionary act and that's
that's where we, we have lived through that.
You know, it's easier for patriots to come
alongside us in in the early days.
(13:50):
It's we were.
You know we were.
There were lions coming up amongst sheep.
You know there are many sheep.
You know, and and as it's become easier in
this, you know, now, as we've seen a new
wave of freedom come with Trump getting
back in office, now everybody's jumping on
the bandwagon, but early on, when we were
speaking truth, we were the crazy ones.
Lara (14:09):
Luke, that's still sheep.
Luke (14:11):
Yeah, they're still sheep, that's still
sheep, that's true they didn't turn into
lions.
No, that's true.
Lara (14:15):
But I will say this to you, because I've
thought about this a lot over the years and
I meet people all the time who are sort of
exhausted from being attacked and waiting
to be restored.
And I look at them and I'm like how long
have you been doing this?
Two years, six years, eight years, ten
years?
I've been doing it for at least 12 years.
(14:35):
I've been attacked and I say two things.
I said to a Catholic priest, very good man,
someone very close to my heart, who was
savaged because of what he knows about the
official Catholic church in this country.
One and also because he exercised the White
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House for President Trump.
And he stood before me and he had tears
pouring down his cheeks and he was holding
my hands and he said my child, my child,
just help me.
I don't understand.
I beat the investigation, I beat the bishop,
I was restored by the Vatican and yet
they're still coming for me.
I don't understand why.
(15:18):
And I said Father, first, why are you
asking me?
You need to be asking God.
But I can tell you this.
I tell you what God tells me now.
And he said what?
And I said when they put the first cross in
Jesus's body, he didn't get to scream out
in pain and say enough.
(15:39):
They didn't stop, they did the next one,
and then they did the next one right, and
then they did the next one.
I said so how much pain do you have to
endure?
right we don't know, yeah, we don't know.
But does it matter?
Luke (15:50):
no, it doesn't matter and jesus himself
said if the you know, if the world hated me,
it will hate you too, especially if you're
standing for truth.
And God is the author of truth, and the
enemy to me is the author of partial truth.
He'll sell a partial truth, yes.
Even just a little.
Lara (16:07):
Yes, they take that tiny little curl of
truth, because the best propaganda is not
made up completely.
If you have to make it up completely, it's
easy.
My mom used to say a lie has no legs.
Well, a lie that's like a propaganda lie
that has no legs of its own Right.
You have to keep making legs for it,
exactly Because they keep collapsing on
themselves.
Yeah, because they're not true, they're not
real.
And the other thing I want to say to you
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that I learned about the sheep Yep.
I'm an African by birth.
Luke (16:35):
I'm an American now, but I grew up A South
African A.
Lara (16:37):
A South African.
Luke (16:38):
A South African.
South Africans are doing big things these
days.
Lara (16:41):
Well, apparently Elon Musk.
Luke (16:43):
And Laura Lopkin Come on.
Lara (16:48):
And I spent a lot of time in the bush.
My father loved the bush.
My mother did too.
Luke (16:52):
And you know I lived over there for a year,
so we have that common.
And you lived over there for a year.
I love that country.
Lara (16:56):
And when you watch animals in the wild, as
I did all my life growing up, you realize
that there's a reason they all stick
together.
There's safety in numbers.
So you can say it's cowardly, you can get
frustrated, you can get angry, but it's not
the whole story.
(17:16):
We gravitate towards each other because
we're social.
Why is solitary confinement such a terrible
punishment?
Because we are social animals, we're social
creatures.
We find safety in numbers and we find
comfort and warmth and strength and it's
part of our programming.
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It's in our DNA to survive.
Luke (17:39):
It's in our soul.
Lara (17:40):
It's in our DNA and our soul, and so I
don't get angry at people.
I have great reverence and respect for
people who are willing to stand outside of
that and be outliers For people like you.
And all the time I've known you, Luke,
you've never compromised who you are Never.
You didn't even do it when they tried to
force you to plead, when you knew that you
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could go, that they were going to try and
put you away for 20 years, you knew that
you had a good chance of going away for 5,
8, 10 years.
You knew nobody was winning a January 6
case in Washington DC.
You knew it didn't make any sense for you
not to take a plea deal except that you
would not bear false witness.
Yes, you to take a plea deal, except that
you would not bear false witness.
You wouldn't do it Right, and I knew you in
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that time, that dark, dark cloud.
Luke (18:28):
And I'm one of 1,600 of us.
You know our lives.
We've been pariahs, modern-day lepers, I
say.
Lara (18:33):
And you didn't know where it was going.
Luke (18:35):
No.
Lara (18:39):
When you said no to that plea deal, you did
not know where it was going.
You did not know you were going to get a
pardon from don trump.
You did not know he was going to be
re-elected.
You did it for the right.
You did the right thing for the right
reasons.
That's what you did as one of the things I
always loved about you.
It's one of the reasons I'm so happy to be
doing this with you it's my show, by the
way, just so you're clear.
Luke (18:58):
No, I'm just kidding, it is your show.
It is your show and I'm very grateful to
even be sitting here and not going to
prison.
Oh, come on, yeah, and not going to prison
I mean if this could have gone a different
way but we're gonna have some fun we are.
We're gonna make this fun.
It's, it's gonna be.
We're gonna change it up and you know I'm a
goofy guy.
Lara (19:14):
You know that you're a goofy guy so, okay,
let's tell let's, let's talk about one of
the funniest things.
Okay, on your way to January 6th.
Yes, you were doing lots of different
characters, yes.
Luke (19:23):
I was literally they used in my trial.
I have a cowboy character called Cubicle
Cowboy Skyler T Jennings Jr and they used
my post.
Lara (19:31):
Can you go in character now to tell the
story?
Luke (19:36):
Well, he's a big Skylander ranch, he's a
real estate guy, but he's just kind of a
weekend cowboy well, he's a weekend cowboy.
We know we have a lot of these at texas.
They live in the big city but they go play
cowboy on the weekends okay, only on the
weekends.
On the weekends they can't really, they
ain't real cowboys, but they think they is.
I'm kind of a mix of that, uh, but to be
truthful, but anyway, I yeah, I was playing
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for alex stein's show characters and
literally being his on-site commentator,
his locations guy.
For January 6th they used a post that said
going to the dirty-ass swamp to save
America.
You know, apostrophe, america.
They used that in my trial to say that I
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had a plan to go insurrect you know, an
insurrection plan, because I had posted
that on my satirical page on social media.
Lara (20:26):
You were a poster child for the
insurrection before they pinned it on.
Stuart Rhodes, yeah.
Luke (20:31):
And I was literally dressed as this over
the top, you know, far right character.
Lara (20:36):
And you were changing costumes.
Luke (20:38):
Yes, in the car, yeah, I have.
Lara (20:40):
Driving to DC.
Luke (20:41):
It was.
I'm a weird guy, you know, and so I can't
believe it.
Lara (20:45):
We'll get into that later.
We will.
Luke (20:47):
But you know so it's, and I think you know
the whole thing with suffering, I think is,
and brokenness can be a beautiful thing.
And I think there's a great song by Chris
Christopherson, who just died in the last
year, called me and Bobby McGee, that Janis
Joplin made famous, and I think you'll
you'll the the main line and you'll you'll
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line up with how you've experienced your
canceling.
But there's, there's, it says freedom's
just another word for nothing left to lose.
You know there is freedom in being canceled.
I've lost my business, my production
company, I've lost my good name, I've lost
friends and family through this ordeal.
And but I, I've lost my business, my
production company, I've lost my good name,
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I've lost friends and family through this
ordeal, but I've stood in my truth.
That, I know, is God's truth.
And so if you're standing in that light,
even if the storm's coming, you're standing
in the light of God and he's going to carry
you.
And so what I love about that is like, if
you've lost it all, what else can they do
to you?
Lara (21:46):
And so there's a freedom like there is,
there's a freedom in going rogue.
You know, yeah, there is, there is.
Oh, there's total freedom in going rogue,
because nobody can tell you what to do.
Luke (21:56):
Exactly.
Lara (21:57):
Except you have that inner compass.
You know, if you're always doing the right
things for the right reasons, or at least
trying to do that, then it takes you to a
good place.
It really does.
It's amazing when you start to live like
that and you remind me of two things, luke.
(22:17):
My sister told me recently that what she'd
learned over all the years was to practice
gratitude.
So you can look at it and you can say, oh't
have my amazing uh job at 60 minutes
anymore.
And I, I, you know I don't have this and I
don't have that.
Or you can look at it every day and say,
thank you, god.
This is incredible.
I have my own home, you know.
I have beautiful children.
I have, uh, I have a whole family.
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Isn't that a gift?
Today?
That's a rare thing.
I have a family and, gosh, I've been loved
all my life.
Wow, look at all these places I've been
able to go.
Look at all these people that I've been
able to meet in the parts of the world I've
been able to see and the things I've been
able to do.
Now I don't look at my house and think,
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when am I going to get my floors redone?
And these dogs are eating all my baseballs
and these kids have broken another door.
Now I look at it and I'm like thank you for
my beautiful house, god.
So practicing gratitude and living in
gratitude is a big thing for me, because I
really think it changes the whole frequency
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of your life.
What's the frequency, kenneth, wasn't that?
Yeah, exactly that's our age group.
Luke (23:27):
Exactly, and I think, just if you look at
your life story, your life story is if you
trust in a sovereign God, which I believe
we both do that has a plan and Jesus is our
Redeemeremer.
He loves redemption stories and I think
that's what we're going to get into.
A lot of these rogue guests are going to be
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redemption stories and you can't have a
good story with an out and inciting
incident in filmmaking and I, you know I
got him.
You can't in an inciting instance where the
problem happens when the storm comes and
well, that's where you learn, that's when
you learn and there's not.
If everything just went smoothly, that
would be a boring ass story yes, it would
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nobody would care and and so, and that's
the I've.
I've lived as you have a wild ass story and
I don't think I'd change any aspect of it
because I mean, even just I spent time in
prison and, ironically, my father does
prison ministry and he couldn't get into
prisons when I was inside, and so I was
like, dad, I'll take over your prison
ministry, because I was inside during COVID
(24:31):
locked down.
Lara (24:32):
So I mean it just Were you scared, Luke?
Luke (24:34):
Oh no, god took absolutely all fear from me
and I was going to go down fighting.
If anything happened to me, you know,
sexually I was ready to go down that wasn't
gonna happen, nobody try to get frisky.
Lara (24:45):
No, no, no because you know we have chalk
if you need some work on your testosterone
well, I do need, I have some.
Luke (24:51):
Uh, I have this what's called a muffin top
here that I need to lose from.
Lara (24:54):
You think it's gonna.
Luke (24:55):
You think chalk's gonna get rid of your
muffin top yeah, yeah, and just getting
past j6 depression wait, we're going to
lose it.
Lara (25:02):
This is a new motivation and I'm excited
you down, I want to.
I want it to slim me down.
Not so sure about that.
I don't have a muffin top well, you don't.
Luke (25:10):
You look beautiful.
I do have a muffin top, so we'll see if in
the in the next 10 episodes, what happens.
Stay tuned.
But uh, but testosterone definitely does
help with you know, if you have low, I have.
I was just recently talking about
testosterone, did blood work and men, when
you get up in your 40s I'm 45 when you get
(25:30):
up to 40s, you need to check yeah, you need
to check your blood levels and your
testosterone levels.
I have okay, this is not a health show well,
that's what I'm saying is chalk will help
with your testosterone levels, because my
levels are as low as a a female right now,
which is embarrassing because I feel like
I'm a masculine, masculine man.
Okay, you're a man.
(25:51):
Well, look at this, you know.
I mean I got chesticle hair and stuff, so
so, uh, you know.
So I think it's anyway, we're gonna, we're
excited about this podcast because I, I
want to these characters like it, like
you've talked about, some may be notable
world, you know, on the world stage, some
may just be great stories that we get to
(26:12):
tell.
That's right, you know, in a long format.
You know we haven't seen Laura Logan in
this.
You know we've seen the success.
I mean Trump on Rogan, rogan, trump on
Rogan.
And this, you know we've seen the success.
Lara (26:21):
I mean trump on, uh, rogan, rogan, trump on
rogan I don't know, you know that's
sometimes less, is more luke well, I know
that was you know, and brevity is the soul
of wit, so we're not going to drag it out
too long, that's true right, we're not
going to torture people, however.
yes, however, it is kind of cool.
You know, as I've been talking to guests
about coming on, there's some people out
(26:41):
there that are well-known names that you
might have seen, you know and you think you
know about them, but you don't really.
And I tell you why Because one of the
aspects of cancel culture is to ignore.
So it's not just that they write things
about you or take little kernels of truth
and distort them, and you know that it's
terribly misleading, it's just that they
write things about you or take little
(27:01):
kernels of truth and distort them, and that
it's terribly misleading.
It's also that they just dismiss and
disregard you.
So one of the things, and you're going to
do a little traveling right for the show
and hopefully going out to some interesting
places.
Luke (27:14):
I have a little segment right.
Lara (27:15):
And we're going to take you, yes, and we're
going to did we call it the Coffee with
Luke Coffee.
We're going to take you, yes, and we're
coffee.
Luke (27:22):
Did we call?
Lara (27:22):
it the coffee coffee with luke coffee
coffee corner, the coffee shop or coffee
shop.
The coffee shop, that was me that was you.
Luke (27:25):
I've been genius because my name is luke.
Coffee spelled like the drink.
Yeah, they get it it is okay.
Lara (27:29):
Okay, coffee, coffee gets coffee yeah, okay,
okay so, but one of the things I want to do.
At 60 minutes, I learned a lot and, uh,
what I learned is that the audience loves
to learn, but also that we're going to take
you on a journey every week.
So sometimes it's to a place you know, a
place that you don't know or you've never
(27:50):
seen, and sometimes it's a journey inside
somebody's mind and into their or into
their life, or into something extraordinary
that they've done.
So that's what we're going to do we're
going to just take you on a journey with us
every week and hopefully it will bring
something to people, because this is a time,
this is a moment where there's so much
(28:11):
happening.
You want to make sense of it, but you also
know that people don't really know where to
go to get the truth.
And people are hungry, for it 're very
hungry they are, they always are, they
always gravitate towards knowledge.
So um should we tell them about the secret
sauce behind the show?
(28:32):
No, I think so the that one over there with
the glasses yes, our, our executive
producer, come say hi, hi, keith, keith
Warr.
The ever patient.
Luke (28:43):
He is.
Lara (28:44):
Super creative.
Luke (28:45):
The secret sauce.
We'd just be sitting here talking to each
other with no one looking and watching, if
it wasn't for this guy and he wears many
hats.
He's amazing and he's a musician, comedian
and the like and a libertarian and a
libertarian.
Libertarian.
That's very important.
Lara (29:04):
Yes, and he's very intelligent gentleman,
so we're glad to have him um in charge you
know the general, he's really okay, okay,
maybe not okay, okay, all right, really
well in charge of me?
Luke (29:19):
I don't think so.
Laura's in charge of me.
I don't think so.
No, Laura's in charge of course.
Lara (29:22):
Okay, god's in charge.
Luke (29:24):
She's the queen, okay, okay.
Lara (29:27):
So I think we should say goodbye.
Luke (29:29):
Well, I think I want to close with.
We want to glorify our creator, because the
creator of this universe and story in
general.
We want him to be glorified in the show, I
think.
And Keith's father and my father happened
to be in full-time ministry and have you
know, keith's father was inspired by God to
(29:50):
write a prayer that we want this.
Whether y'all we do this every time or not,
we are going to be praying this weekly and
we'd love for y'all to echo it and we'll
even post it.
But if y'all would pray, pray with us and
I'll read this beautiful prayer that
Keith's father, keith, what's your father's
(30:12):
name?
Nick, nick, nick Warrer made for us.
We did it yesterday and it's beautiful.
Heavenly Father, we come to you in the name
of our Lord and Savior, jesus Christ of
Nazareth.
We are grateful for your grace and love.
We lift up Laura Logan and our associates
who are beginning a new venture into the
(30:33):
world of media through a podcast, this
podcast Going Rogue with Laura Logan.
Grant us your heavenly wisdom in all that
we do, lord.
We ask you that you give us clarity in your
vision of truth and integrity in Laura
Logan's reporting, as she's always done.
May her words seek truth and continue to
shine the light of truth in all of her
words.
May Laura Logan have an influence of light
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throughout all your creation, lord.
May this platform be one that brings unity,
understanding, compassion.
Protect all of us from any harm and
disinformation.
Give us all courage to always speak truth
with boldness, with love, we raise up our
queen Laura Logan to you, lord, that she be
a bright beacon of light in the world of
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journalism.
May Laura's work glorify your name and
bring joy and inspiration to all who hear
her.
We bring all these requests you, father, in
jesus name amen in jesus name amen I think
you know I want to close with you know, the
truth is, you know, is like a lion, an
african lion.
(31:36):
You, uh, you don't have to defend it, you
just let it loose and it'll defend itself.
So we're going to bring on some rogue
characters to let their truth loose.
We also are looking for sponsors.
If you are a good fit for the show, please
contact us at our website.
We're bootstrapping this thing, but we need
your help.
We need you to like and subscribe to
(31:57):
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Laura.
Lara (32:04):
I'm going to make you do that part all the
time.
I will do it.
Luke (32:07):
It's important, it's marketing.
I worked in advertising.
It's very important.
Lara (32:12):
I just want to say thank you.
Thank you, Luke.
God brought us together.
Luke (32:18):
I prayed for an opportunity like this.
This God has blown my mind by the
opportunity he presented me and I'm very
humbly grateful.
And I believe God has favor on this show
and we want to especially if we put him at
the forefront, to glorify his light and
expose the darkness, which is our calling
to.
(32:38):
We're supposed to expose the darkness and
point people to the truth, and I think we
have a great team in place and it's only
going to get bigger, better and stronger as
we roll.
Lara (32:47):
This is true and I just want to say thank
you.
I'm going to have a chapter in my book just
on how to get canceled, because I've been
canceled so many times that I've lost count
and I've even been canceled by people I
didn't work for, which is my favorite.
But I am here still because people out
(33:10):
there want to hear what I have to say and
believe in me and know that they don't
believe any of the nonsense that's been
written and said and they know the truth
and I'm very grateful for that.
I wouldn't be here still today.
They didn't put me on television at CBS and
NBC and ABC and all the other places I
(33:32):
worked.
Luke (33:32):
They didn't do it because and give you all
those awards, by the way, which we'll see
at our new studio in Fredericksburg, texas,
in the beautiful hill country.
Lara (33:41):
In the hard to fly over country.
Luke (33:43):
That's right hard to fly over country.
Lara (33:46):
And they didn't keep me going.
That's right.
They didn't keep me on television for any
other reason than that the audience wanted
to see me and hear from me, and it was the
reaction from the audience that made it
undeniable.
That's what propelled me forward, really,
(34:07):
trulyeniable.
That's what propelled me forward really
truly, and that's what kept me on
television.
That's what, uh what, kept me reporting.
It's what kept me alive, and so I really am
here because of all the people out there.
It's, it's not something I say to appear
magnanimous or politically correct.
It's true, it's true, it's true, and I was.
When I made it onto network news, there
were no South Africans, that's right.
You know, I mean a couple Canadians, but
(34:28):
even CNN.
You know, Christiane Lepore, that was cable
right, it wasn't network news, and so all
of those things I was able to do because of
good people behind me and because of the
people out there.
So thank you, Thank you to all the people
who have helped us get going on the road
and you're not talking anymore.
You're done.
Luke (34:46):
I am.
Yeah, you're done, I'm done.
I just want to say, though, you're an angel.
You're an angel because we talked to
someone here in a future episode that was
on the road with her through many shoots in
Afghanistan and over in Asia, and not the
least, and so we're always learning on this
(35:07):
show Luke.
Everybody believed she was an angel, and
what I think is special is angel is a
messenger of God and his truth, and that's
who Laura Logan is to America and to the
world.
And we're bringing you right to your homes.
We're bringing this woman to do great
interviews.
You're going to get to know her at a level
deeper than you ever have.
Lara (35:28):
That's a lot of pressure.
People I don't know so much about that.
Be excited, I'm going to do what I do.
Luke (35:33):
You're going to do what you do, but people
gravitate to you because you are an angel
and you're beautiful and you have a light,
the light of the lord, and you have the joy
of god in you, and so that's why people are
going to be attracted.
This podcast and you're a journal, you're a
journalism uh, you know, expert award
winning I'm gonna hurt you.
Lara (35:52):
Well, okay, shut up.
Yeah, no more, I've blown enough smoke up
your skirt yeah, in fact, my skirt's so
high right now I'm about to take off.
You're welcome.
You're welcome, okay.
Thank you, luke.
Luke (36:04):
Thank you thank you, we'll see you next
time this is keith keith's, responsible for
the microphones.
Lara (36:08):
What can I say?
Go in rogue with lara logan.
Join us thursday morning every week.
Ciao, ciao.
And God is the author of truth and the
enemy to me is the author of partial truth.
He'll sell a partial truth, oh yes.
You know even just a little.
Lara (00:09):
Yes, they take that tiny little kernel of
truth, because the best propaganda is not
made up completely.
If you have to make it up completely, it's
easy.
You know, my mom used to say a lie has no
legs.
Well, a lie that's like a propaganda lie
that has no legs of its own.
You have to keep making legs for it because
they keep collapsing on themselves because
they're not true.
(00:51):
Welcome to my new show, everybody Going
Rogue with Lara Logan.
We're going to be releasing an episode
every morning on Thursdays, so you can look
out for that.
This is going to be a kind of different
Laura Logan for you.
You get to see me as I am behind the camera,
just myself, and I want to introduce my
(01:13):
sidekick, luke Coffey, the king of bad
suggestions.
Well we'll see.
Luke (01:17):
We'll see Okay.
Lara (01:19):
Yes, who is also a veteran, a recent
veteran of cancel culture, having narrowly
escaped long-term incarceration at the
hands of the Justice Department and a
crooked judge.
Luke (01:32):
That's right.
We're ironically here in DC.
Lara (01:41):
Two months to the date I was convicted for
a January 6th, you know charge and that
terrible crime of yours, lukeke, holding up
a crutch over a crowd of people, when you
heard the screams of people who were being
crushed and praying I was telling people to
stop and pray.
Luke (01:51):
But you know, in this justice system, in
the biden regime, it's uh, it's flipped it,
flipped it, flip-flopped.
That got you accused of assault.
Lara (01:58):
It did so with a deadly weapon, a crutch
which was a crutch that you found on the
ground.
Luke (02:02):
I did yes.
Lara (02:04):
And, if I remember correctly, you said in
the name of Lord Jesus, please stop this.
I did say that.
Which, according to certain people in this
country, is a crime.
Luke (02:15):
It is, and we're here to right that wrong.
Lara (02:19):
Yeah, it's not a crime on this show.
No, it isn't it isn't at all all.
So what are we going to be doing?
Well, we're going to have a big get.
Occasionally, you'll find the right person
at just the right moment.
We'll be talking to some of the people you
don't always hear from right.
(02:40):
I'm always looking.
I want to learn something every time I sit
down with someone, so I want to share that
with you.
And also, somebody in the comments said
we're tired of seeing the same old people.
So that's our job.
Here's to not seeing the same old people.
Luke cheers, yes and um.
I want to make one special mention actually,
because we wouldn't be sitting here, we
wouldn't be getting off the ground without
(03:01):
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Luke (03:17):
Yeah, boosting that T, that testosterone.
Lara (03:20):
Yeah, so thank you to Chuck.
Thank you, chuck, and in fact, the founder
of Chuck might have been responsible for
the name of this podcast.
So when you hear something, on this show.
Luke (03:33):
It's a solid name.
It really is.
It's a solid name Because, Laura Logan, why
are we going rogue?
What does that mean exactly?
Let's step it back to your career.
She's an award-winning journalist,
world-renowned.
You've interviewed kings and queens to the
scum of the earth.
Lara (03:54):
I've interviewed a lot of people.
That's quite the range, though.
That's interesting.
Luke (04:01):
And you have.
What I'm excited about is that you are
taking the reins.
This is your show.
You have no agenda.
Lara (04:09):
Lots of freedom, no money.
Luke (04:11):
Right, and we'll get to that later folks,
but freedom's hell, freedom's more
important.
That's right, that is so.
Tell us how you got here.
Just an overview of how you got here.
Okay, I'll give you the cliff notes because
I don't want to bore anybody well we'll get
into it deeper.
Lara (04:26):
I I hit the jackpot, the lottery in terms
of how I was born, because I was born to a
wonderful mother and an amazing father and
they were not perfect.
I think that's something important for
people to understand is, as you get older
because I I'm 53 now you get that
perspective on life right and you start to
(04:54):
you realize that happiness isn't perfection
and having great people in your life
doesn't mean they're perfect all the time.
But I was born into a home of love and my
parents were a real example of teaching you
to think for yourself.
So I grew up in South Africa.
I got my first job in journalism at 17.
I worked at a newspaper, so I started in
print and I went from there.
(05:15):
I got the jobs that nobody else wanted to
do.
I raised my hand when no one else was
raising their hand.
So if that was sitting in the newsroom on a
Saturday night waiting for the first
edition to come off the printing presses,
that's how old I am and why did I do that.
Well, the other journalists they had lives.
You know this was a regular job to them.
They'd already made it in a sense.
(05:37):
I was figuring it out, so I was happy to
stay and my job was to take that early
first edition and take copies of that paper
to the morgue and the fire station and the
police department and the hospital and give
them copies, because no internet man, right,
this is what 87, 88?.
(05:58):
And that's how I began to form
relationships, made friends with the guy at
the morgue so he would let me know how many
dead bodies they had from the overnight
violence, the political violence, and the
government didn't want anyone to know, so
they were hiding those bodies, they would
go off.
I had other friends, journalists later that
I met, who had police scanners and would
listen to where the police were going
(06:19):
because they knew they were picking up the
bodies.
But what did I do at 17 years, you know, I
found, uh, I were on my way there into the
mall where he was eventually let me come
and see the bodies.
And why did I need to do that?
Not because I like to look at dead people,
but because I wanted to know how they died.
Were they shot, were they stabbed?
You know that kind of thing.
Were they shot by police, um, or were they
(06:41):
burned?
Because in south africa at that time, you
know, they were, well, even today doing
everything.
So.
Luke (06:47):
That was morbid but you know, still
inquiring mind like you you have.
It's where it began.
Lara (06:52):
It's.
It probably began from birth.
It probably did, but I worked my way up,
you know, eventually went to the American
networks, was the only person in
Afghanistan, the only you know front-line
journalist Myself and Steve Harrigan from
Fox News he was the other guy, but I was
the only woman and I just put myself in
(07:13):
places, luke, where people had to hire me.
That's what I did.
I forced them to hire me and the only job
interview I ever went to was at British
Morning Television and they asked me to
name some of the correspondents on the show.
I couldn't name one because I'd never
watched the news.
I only ever reported the news.
I just didn't watch it.
(07:33):
And I got that job.
Can you believe it?
Yeah, and so anyway, I you know.
16 years at CBS and 60 Minutes one of the
greatest periods of my life before.
Unfortunately, my personal awakening came
with a.
It was an early warning sign of what was to
come and where we are now, where people
(07:54):
have lost faith in the news, in the media
and they've become aware of how biased it
has become, because it wasn't that bad when
I was there, but we were always heading in
this direction, actually and a time when
journalists just mix opinion with fact and
no one can really tell the difference
(08:14):
anymore.
But you know what people can tell.
Luke (08:17):
What's that?
Lara (08:18):
They know when someone's telling the truth.
Yeah, they do.
You may not have all the information, you
may not like what someone's saying, but you
kind of know.
You just have that feeling in the pit of
your stomach I'm being lied to or I'm not.
Luke (08:34):
That's why I like you luke well, that's
what connected us, was kind of you
investigating my story and, yeah, you know
what's.
What's so engaging about laura logan is
that she is completely real, she is
authentic, so that all of a sudden the
subject she's covering wall comes down and
it's a true picture of that person.
(08:55):
And so that's what why I'm excited about
this podcast, because you are a journalist
but you're also a the way you interact with
people, you care, and we spent four hours
talking about my story on camera and you
know when it got into the details of my
backstory and and we got to know each other
(09:16):
and we really connected then.
And you know I have been in the media, like
you, for since the beginning of my career.
I started in Hollywood working NBC and
Warner brothers in television and I saw
pretty early on just the corporate
structure of of the industrial media
complex and how controlled it is, you know,
and it was a big turnoff as a, as an artist
(09:38):
and a storyteller and and you know what's
interesting.
You know story is in the most impactful
thing and guess who's the author of story?
god is god's author of all of our stories,
all our stories, and there's an enemy that
wants to come in and and and pervert that
story, and and and and lie to us and
deceive us, and it will use the media, and
(10:00):
the controlled media, to do that.
As we figured it out, you know.
And then I spent, you know, 16 years as a
commercial director, as a professional
propagandist, and I guess, during, during I
mean that's what I was and I was working
with the corporations that would pay,
without agencies that would pay me.
That you know to, to, you know, trick
people into thinking they're not enough,
(10:21):
and that's exactly what it is.
And during COVID, that's when I really got
confronted with what I was doing.
I'm part of this machine that is
propagandizing the world, the world stage,
and is it doing good?
No, it's not.
And then we saw it being used for evil and
(10:43):
fear based.
You know.
Remember that back in 2020, when the world
changed, oh yeah, still, you know what I
would say?
Lara (10:50):
it changed even before that, when they went
off to donald trump for being donald trump,
that's right, and he was never allowed to
be seen as a human being, was never allowed
to be normalized as a president, which is
how they described it in their instruction
manual that they gave to supporters at the
beginning of 2017.
I really thought it went evil there,
because you couldn't say how.
(11:13):
I think the Steele dossier is a bunch of BS.
There's not a single firsthand source in
this.
I can't verify any of it.
I can't verify any of it.
I don't believe any of it.
Right?
You couldn't say that without being a rabid
right winger, exactly, you know, and a oh,
she's a crazy Trump person.
It's like-.
Luke (11:31):
Dog whistle, terms that they just blatantly
lose.
Lara (11:33):
Yes, I didn't even know who Donald Trump
was at that point.
He was some reality TV guy.
I sold the Trump Hotel in New York because
I worked not far from there, so it didn't
make sense to me.
What was all this about?
Why did they have to demonize us?
Why did they have to write all these things
about me that were not true?
(11:54):
And then you realize, when you're in that
position I think there's so many people
who've lived through this now you realize
that there's just nothing you can do.
You can't pick a fight with someone online.
You're not going to win that fight and you
don't even know if it's a person.
Half the time it's a bot or it's an
operation.
It's a team of people and their only job is
getting rid of you.
(12:18):
And you start to realize how ruthless these
people are and how evil they are.
They really don't care.
They went after my husband, they went after
my family.
There were people hoping I got divorced,
and all of this because they didn't like
what I reported on Benghazi.
You know, because the timing of it, because
it was right when Hillary Clinton was
supposedly going to fulfill her destiny as
the first female president of the United
(12:39):
States of America and my story got in the
way because they abandoned people.
They left them to their deaths in Benghazi
and they were doing bad stuff and they
didn't want anyone to know about it.
Yet another off-the-books operation from
the CIA, and so they were going to.
If they can push you to suicide, they've
(13:01):
won.
They've absolutely won, won.
It's not enough to make sure that you lose
your job.
They don't want you to ever be hired again
by anybody, and if you take your own life,
then bingo right, they've hit the jackpot,
absolutely.
Who does that?
Luke (13:13):
right who does that.
Lara (13:15):
They wanted to do that with Big Balls, luke.
Big Balls, that big balls, that's right,
big balls, who just came out big balls is
an iconic figure now because he is one of
the very, very first to immediately survive
the onslaught right.
Luke (13:29):
Well, this, during this whole time, you
know the george orwell quote and I think
he's like, I mean, he's a prophet or he had
the script, I don't know but he, he said in
a time of universal deceit, telling the
truth is a revolutionary act and that's
that's where we, we have lived through that.
You know, it's easier for patriots to come
alongside us in in the early days.
(13:50):
It's we were.
You know we were.
There were lions coming up amongst sheep.
You know there are many sheep.
You know, and and as it's become easier in
this, you know, now, as we've seen a new
wave of freedom come with Trump getting
back in office, now everybody's jumping on
the bandwagon, but early on, when we were
speaking truth, we were the crazy ones.
Lara (14:09):
Luke, that's still sheep.
Luke (14:11):
Yeah, they're still sheep, that's still
sheep, that's true they didn't turn into
lions.
No, that's true.
Lara (14:15):
But I will say this to you, because I've
thought about this a lot over the years and
I meet people all the time who are sort of
exhausted from being attacked and waiting
to be restored.
And I look at them and I'm like how long
have you been doing this?
Two years, six years, eight years, ten
years?
I've been doing it for at least 12 years.
(14:35):
I've been attacked and I say two things.
I said to a Catholic priest, very good man,
someone very close to my heart, who was
savaged because of what he knows about the
official Catholic church in this country.
One and also because he exercised the White
(14:56):
House for President Trump.
And he stood before me and he had tears
pouring down his cheeks and he was holding
my hands and he said my child, my child,
just help me.
I don't understand.
I beat the investigation, I beat the bishop,
I was restored by the Vatican and yet
they're still coming for me.
I don't understand why.
(15:18):
And I said Father, first, why are you
asking me?
You need to be asking God.
But I can tell you this.
I tell you what God tells me now.
And he said what?
And I said when they put the first cross in
Jesus's body, he didn't get to scream out
in pain and say enough.
(15:39):
They didn't stop, they did the next one,
and then they did the next one right, and
then they did the next one.
I said so how much pain do you have to
endure?
right we don't know, yeah, we don't know.
But does it matter?
Luke (15:50):
no, it doesn't matter and jesus himself
said if the you know, if the world hated me,
it will hate you too, especially if you're
standing for truth.
And God is the author of truth, and the
enemy to me is the author of partial truth.
He'll sell a partial truth, yes.
Even just a little.
Lara (16:07):
Yes, they take that tiny little curl of
truth, because the best propaganda is not
made up completely.
If you have to make it up completely, it's
easy.
My mom used to say a lie has no legs.
Well, a lie that's like a propaganda lie
that has no legs of its own Right.
You have to keep making legs for it,
exactly Because they keep collapsing on
themselves.
Yeah, because they're not true, they're not
real.
And the other thing I want to say to you
(16:28):
that I learned about the sheep Yep.
I'm an African by birth.
Luke (16:35):
I'm an American now, but I grew up A South
African A.
Lara (16:37):
A South African.
Luke (16:38):
A South African.
South Africans are doing big things these
days.
Lara (16:41):
Well, apparently Elon Musk.
Luke (16:43):
And Laura Lopkin Come on.
Lara (16:48):
And I spent a lot of time in the bush.
My father loved the bush.
My mother did too.
Luke (16:52):
And you know I lived over there for a year,
so we have that common.
And you lived over there for a year.
I love that country.
Lara (16:56):
And when you watch animals in the wild, as
I did all my life growing up, you realize
that there's a reason they all stick
together.
There's safety in numbers.
So you can say it's cowardly, you can get
frustrated, you can get angry, but it's not
the whole story.
(17:16):
We gravitate towards each other because
we're social.
Why is solitary confinement such a terrible
punishment?
Because we are social animals, we're social
creatures.
We find safety in numbers and we find
comfort and warmth and strength and it's
part of our programming.
(17:37):
It's in our DNA to survive.
Luke (17:39):
It's in our soul.
Lara (17:40):
It's in our DNA and our soul, and so I
don't get angry at people.
I have great reverence and respect for
people who are willing to stand outside of
that and be outliers For people like you.
And all the time I've known you, Luke,
you've never compromised who you are Never.
You didn't even do it when they tried to
force you to plead, when you knew that you
(18:02):
could go, that they were going to try and
put you away for 20 years, you knew that
you had a good chance of going away for 5,
8, 10 years.
You knew nobody was winning a January 6
case in Washington DC.
You knew it didn't make any sense for you
not to take a plea deal except that you
would not bear false witness.
Yes, you to take a plea deal, except that
you would not bear false witness.
You wouldn't do it Right, and I knew you in
(18:24):
that time, that dark, dark cloud.
Luke (18:28):
And I'm one of 1,600 of us.
You know our lives.
We've been pariahs, modern-day lepers, I
say.
Lara (18:33):
And you didn't know where it was going.
Luke (18:35):
No.
Lara (18:39):
When you said no to that plea deal, you did
not know where it was going.
You did not know you were going to get a
pardon from don trump.
You did not know he was going to be
re-elected.
You did it for the right.
You did the right thing for the right
reasons.
That's what you did as one of the things I
always loved about you.
It's one of the reasons I'm so happy to be
doing this with you it's my show, by the
way, just so you're clear.
Luke (18:58):
No, I'm just kidding, it is your show.
It is your show and I'm very grateful to
even be sitting here and not going to
prison.
Oh, come on, yeah, and not going to prison
I mean if this could have gone a different
way but we're gonna have some fun we are.
We're gonna make this fun.
It's, it's gonna be.
We're gonna change it up and you know I'm a
goofy guy.
Lara (19:14):
You know that you're a goofy guy so, okay,
let's tell let's, let's talk about one of
the funniest things.
Okay, on your way to January 6th.
Yes, you were doing lots of different
characters, yes.
Luke (19:23):
I was literally they used in my trial.
I have a cowboy character called Cubicle
Cowboy Skyler T Jennings Jr and they used
my post.
Lara (19:31):
Can you go in character now to tell the
story?
Luke (19:36):
Well, he's a big Skylander ranch, he's a
real estate guy, but he's just kind of a
weekend cowboy well, he's a weekend cowboy.
We know we have a lot of these at texas.
They live in the big city but they go play
cowboy on the weekends okay, only on the
weekends.
On the weekends they can't really, they
ain't real cowboys, but they think they is.
I'm kind of a mix of that, uh, but to be
truthful, but anyway, I yeah, I was playing
(19:57):
for alex stein's show characters and
literally being his on-site commentator,
his locations guy.
For January 6th they used a post that said
going to the dirty-ass swamp to save
America.
You know, apostrophe, america.
They used that in my trial to say that I
(20:18):
had a plan to go insurrect you know, an
insurrection plan, because I had posted
that on my satirical page on social media.
Lara (20:26):
You were a poster child for the
insurrection before they pinned it on.
Stuart Rhodes, yeah.
Luke (20:31):
And I was literally dressed as this over
the top, you know, far right character.
Lara (20:36):
And you were changing costumes.
Luke (20:38):
Yes, in the car, yeah, I have.
Lara (20:40):
Driving to DC.
Luke (20:41):
It was.
I'm a weird guy, you know, and so I can't
believe it.
Lara (20:45):
We'll get into that later.
We will.
Luke (20:47):
But you know so it's, and I think you know
the whole thing with suffering, I think is,
and brokenness can be a beautiful thing.
And I think there's a great song by Chris
Christopherson, who just died in the last
year, called me and Bobby McGee, that Janis
Joplin made famous, and I think you'll
you'll the the main line and you'll you'll
(21:07):
line up with how you've experienced your
canceling.
But there's, there's, it says freedom's
just another word for nothing left to lose.
You know there is freedom in being canceled.
I've lost my business, my production
company, I've lost my good name, I've lost
friends and family through this ordeal.
And but I, I've lost my business, my
production company, I've lost my good name,
(21:30):
I've lost friends and family through this
ordeal, but I've stood in my truth.
That, I know, is God's truth.
And so if you're standing in that light,
even if the storm's coming, you're standing
in the light of God and he's going to carry
you.
And so what I love about that is like, if
you've lost it all, what else can they do
to you?
Lara (21:46):
And so there's a freedom like there is,
there's a freedom in going rogue.
You know, yeah, there is, there is.
Oh, there's total freedom in going rogue,
because nobody can tell you what to do.
Luke (21:56):
Exactly.
Lara (21:57):
Except you have that inner compass.
You know, if you're always doing the right
things for the right reasons, or at least
trying to do that, then it takes you to a
good place.
It really does.
It's amazing when you start to live like
that and you remind me of two things, luke.
(22:17):
My sister told me recently that what she'd
learned over all the years was to practice
gratitude.
So you can look at it and you can say, oh't
have my amazing uh job at 60 minutes
anymore.
And I, I, you know I don't have this and I
don't have that.
Or you can look at it every day and say,
thank you, god.
This is incredible.
I have my own home, you know.
I have beautiful children.
I have, uh, I have a whole family.
(22:40):
Isn't that a gift?
Today?
That's a rare thing.
I have a family and, gosh, I've been loved
all my life.
Wow, look at all these places I've been
able to go.
Look at all these people that I've been
able to meet in the parts of the world I've
been able to see and the things I've been
able to do.
Now I don't look at my house and think,
(23:02):
when am I going to get my floors redone?
And these dogs are eating all my baseballs
and these kids have broken another door.
Now I look at it and I'm like thank you for
my beautiful house, god.
So practicing gratitude and living in
gratitude is a big thing for me, because I
really think it changes the whole frequency
(23:23):
of your life.
What's the frequency, kenneth, wasn't that?
Yeah, exactly that's our age group.
Luke (23:27):
Exactly, and I think, just if you look at
your life story, your life story is if you
trust in a sovereign God, which I believe
we both do that has a plan and Jesus is our
Redeemeremer.
He loves redemption stories and I think
that's what we're going to get into.
A lot of these rogue guests are going to be
(23:48):
redemption stories and you can't have a
good story with an out and inciting
incident in filmmaking and I, you know I
got him.
You can't in an inciting instance where the
problem happens when the storm comes and
well, that's where you learn, that's when
you learn and there's not.
If everything just went smoothly, that
would be a boring ass story yes, it would
(24:08):
nobody would care and and so, and that's
the I've.
I've lived as you have a wild ass story and
I don't think I'd change any aspect of it
because I mean, even just I spent time in
prison and, ironically, my father does
prison ministry and he couldn't get into
prisons when I was inside, and so I was
like, dad, I'll take over your prison
ministry, because I was inside during COVID
(24:31):
locked down.
Lara (24:32):
So I mean it just Were you scared, Luke?
Luke (24:34):
Oh no, god took absolutely all fear from me
and I was going to go down fighting.
If anything happened to me, you know,
sexually I was ready to go down that wasn't
gonna happen, nobody try to get frisky.
Lara (24:45):
No, no, no because you know we have chalk
if you need some work on your testosterone
well, I do need, I have some.
Luke (24:51):
Uh, I have this what's called a muffin top
here that I need to lose from.
Lara (24:54):
You think it's gonna.
Luke (24:55):
You think chalk's gonna get rid of your
muffin top yeah, yeah, and just getting
past j6 depression wait, we're going to
lose it.
Lara (25:02):
This is a new motivation and I'm excited
you down, I want to.
I want it to slim me down.
Not so sure about that.
I don't have a muffin top well, you don't.
Luke (25:10):
You look beautiful.
I do have a muffin top, so we'll see if in
the in the next 10 episodes, what happens.
Stay tuned.
But uh, but testosterone definitely does
help with you know, if you have low, I have.
I was just recently talking about
testosterone, did blood work and men, when
you get up in your 40s I'm 45 when you get
(25:30):
up to 40s, you need to check yeah, you need
to check your blood levels and your
testosterone levels.
I have okay, this is not a health show well,
that's what I'm saying is chalk will help
with your testosterone levels, because my
levels are as low as a a female right now,
which is embarrassing because I feel like
I'm a masculine, masculine man.
Okay, you're a man.
(25:51):
Well, look at this, you know.
I mean I got chesticle hair and stuff, so
so, uh, you know.
So I think it's anyway, we're gonna, we're
excited about this podcast because I, I
want to these characters like it, like
you've talked about, some may be notable
world, you know, on the world stage, some
may just be great stories that we get to
(26:12):
tell.
That's right, you know, in a long format.
You know we haven't seen Laura Logan in
this.
You know we've seen the success.
I mean Trump on Rogan, rogan, trump on
Rogan.
And this, you know we've seen the success.
Lara (26:21):
I mean trump on, uh, rogan, rogan, trump on
rogan I don't know, you know that's
sometimes less, is more luke well, I know
that was you know, and brevity is the soul
of wit, so we're not going to drag it out
too long, that's true right, we're not
going to torture people, however.
yes, however, it is kind of cool.
You know, as I've been talking to guests
about coming on, there's some people out
(26:41):
there that are well-known names that you
might have seen, you know and you think you
know about them, but you don't really.
And I tell you why Because one of the
aspects of cancel culture is to ignore.
So it's not just that they write things
about you or take little kernels of truth
and distort them, and you know that it's
terribly misleading, it's just that they
write things about you or take little
(27:01):
kernels of truth and distort them, and that
it's terribly misleading.
It's also that they just dismiss and
disregard you.
So one of the things, and you're going to
do a little traveling right for the show
and hopefully going out to some interesting
places.
Luke (27:14):
I have a little segment right.
Lara (27:15):
And we're going to take you, yes, and we're
going to did we call it the Coffee with
Luke Coffee.
We're going to take you, yes, and we're
coffee.
Luke (27:22):
Did we call?
Lara (27:22):
it the coffee coffee with luke coffee
coffee corner, the coffee shop or coffee
shop.
The coffee shop, that was me that was you.
Luke (27:25):
I've been genius because my name is luke.
Coffee spelled like the drink.
Yeah, they get it it is okay.
Lara (27:29):
Okay, coffee, coffee gets coffee yeah, okay,
okay so, but one of the things I want to do.
At 60 minutes, I learned a lot and, uh,
what I learned is that the audience loves
to learn, but also that we're going to take
you on a journey every week.
So sometimes it's to a place you know, a
place that you don't know or you've never
(27:50):
seen, and sometimes it's a journey inside
somebody's mind and into their or into
their life, or into something extraordinary
that they've done.
So that's what we're going to do we're
going to just take you on a journey with us
every week and hopefully it will bring
something to people, because this is a time,
this is a moment where there's so much
(28:11):
happening.
You want to make sense of it, but you also
know that people don't really know where to
go to get the truth.
And people are hungry, for it 're very
hungry they are, they always are, they
always gravitate towards knowledge.
So um should we tell them about the secret
sauce behind the show?
(28:32):
No, I think so the that one over there with
the glasses yes, our, our executive
producer, come say hi, hi, keith, keith
Warr.
The ever patient.
Luke (28:43):
He is.
Lara (28:44):
Super creative.
Luke (28:45):
The secret sauce.
We'd just be sitting here talking to each
other with no one looking and watching, if
it wasn't for this guy and he wears many
hats.
He's amazing and he's a musician, comedian
and the like and a libertarian and a
libertarian.
Libertarian.
That's very important.
Lara (29:04):
Yes, and he's very intelligent gentleman,
so we're glad to have him um in charge you
know the general, he's really okay, okay,
maybe not okay, okay, all right, really
well in charge of me?
Luke (29:19):
I don't think so.
Laura's in charge of me.
I don't think so.
No, Laura's in charge of course.
Lara (29:22):
Okay, god's in charge.
Luke (29:24):
She's the queen, okay, okay.
Lara (29:27):
So I think we should say goodbye.
Luke (29:29):
Well, I think I want to close with.
We want to glorify our creator, because the
creator of this universe and story in
general.
We want him to be glorified in the show, I
think.
And Keith's father and my father happened
to be in full-time ministry and have you
know, keith's father was inspired by God to
(29:50):
write a prayer that we want this.
Whether y'all we do this every time or not,
we are going to be praying this weekly and
we'd love for y'all to echo it and we'll
even post it.
But if y'all would pray, pray with us and
I'll read this beautiful prayer that
Keith's father, keith, what's your father's
(30:12):
name?
Nick, nick, nick Warrer made for us.
We did it yesterday and it's beautiful.
Heavenly Father, we come to you in the name
of our Lord and Savior, jesus Christ of
Nazareth.
We are grateful for your grace and love.
We lift up Laura Logan and our associates
who are beginning a new venture into the
(30:33):
world of media through a podcast, this
podcast Going Rogue with Laura Logan.
Grant us your heavenly wisdom in all that
we do, lord.
We ask you that you give us clarity in your
vision of truth and integrity in Laura
Logan's reporting, as she's always done.
May her words seek truth and continue to
shine the light of truth in all of her
words.
May Laura Logan have an influence of light
(30:54):
throughout all your creation, lord.
May this platform be one that brings unity,
understanding, compassion.
Protect all of us from any harm and
disinformation.
Give us all courage to always speak truth
with boldness, with love, we raise up our
queen Laura Logan to you, lord, that she be
a bright beacon of light in the world of
(31:16):
journalism.
May Laura's work glorify your name and
bring joy and inspiration to all who hear
her.
We bring all these requests you, father, in
jesus name amen in jesus name amen I think
you know I want to close with you know, the
truth is, you know, is like a lion, an
african lion.
(31:36):
You, uh, you don't have to defend it, you
just let it loose and it'll defend itself.
So we're going to bring on some rogue
characters to let their truth loose.
We also are looking for sponsors.
If you are a good fit for the show, please
contact us at our website.
We're bootstrapping this thing, but we need
your help.
We need you to like and subscribe to
(31:57):
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Laura.
Lara (32:04):
I'm going to make you do that part all the
time.
I will do it.
Luke (32:07):
It's important, it's marketing.
I worked in advertising.
It's very important.
Lara (32:12):
I just want to say thank you.
Thank you, Luke.
God brought us together.
Luke (32:18):
I prayed for an opportunity like this.
This God has blown my mind by the
opportunity he presented me and I'm very
humbly grateful.
And I believe God has favor on this show
and we want to especially if we put him at
the forefront, to glorify his light and
expose the darkness, which is our calling
to.
(32:38):
We're supposed to expose the darkness and
point people to the truth, and I think we
have a great team in place and it's only
going to get bigger, better and stronger as
we roll.
Lara (32:47):
This is true and I just want to say thank
you.
I'm going to have a chapter in my book just
on how to get canceled, because I've been
canceled so many times that I've lost count
and I've even been canceled by people I
didn't work for, which is my favorite.
But I am here still because people out
(33:10):
there want to hear what I have to say and
believe in me and know that they don't
believe any of the nonsense that's been
written and said and they know the truth
and I'm very grateful for that.
I wouldn't be here still today.
They didn't put me on television at CBS and
NBC and ABC and all the other places I
(33:32):
worked.
Luke (33:32):
They didn't do it because and give you all
those awards, by the way, which we'll see
at our new studio in Fredericksburg, texas,
in the beautiful hill country.
Lara (33:41):
In the hard to fly over country.
Luke (33:43):
That's right hard to fly over country.
Lara (33:46):
And they didn't keep me going.
That's right.
They didn't keep me on television for any
other reason than that the audience wanted
to see me and hear from me, and it was the
reaction from the audience that made it
undeniable.
That's what propelled me forward, really,
(34:07):
trulyeniable.
That's what propelled me forward really
truly, and that's what kept me on
television.
That's what, uh what, kept me reporting.
It's what kept me alive, and so I really am
here because of all the people out there.
It's, it's not something I say to appear
magnanimous or politically correct.
It's true, it's true, it's true, and I was.
When I made it onto network news, there
were no South Africans, that's right.
You know, I mean a couple Canadians, but
(34:28):
even CNN.
You know, Christiane Lepore, that was cable
right, it wasn't network news, and so all
of those things I was able to do because of
good people behind me and because of the
people out there.
So thank you, Thank you to all the people
who have helped us get going on the road
and you're not talking anymore.
You're done.
Luke (34:46):
I am.
Yeah, you're done, I'm done.
I just want to say, though, you're an angel.
You're an angel because we talked to
someone here in a future episode that was
on the road with her through many shoots in
Afghanistan and over in Asia, and not the
least, and so we're always learning on this
(35:07):
show Luke.
Everybody believed she was an angel, and
what I think is special is angel is a
messenger of God and his truth, and that's
who Laura Logan is to America and to the
world.
And we're bringing you right to your homes.
We're bringing this woman to do great
interviews.
You're going to get to know her at a level
deeper than you ever have.
Lara (35:28):
That's a lot of pressure.
People I don't know so much about that.
Be excited, I'm going to do what I do.
Luke (35:33):
You're going to do what you do, but people
gravitate to you because you are an angel
and you're beautiful and you have a light,
the light of the lord, and you have the joy
of god in you, and so that's why people are
going to be attracted.
This podcast and you're a journal, you're a
journalism uh, you know, expert award
winning I'm gonna hurt you.
Lara (35:52):
Well, okay, shut up.
Yeah, no more, I've blown enough smoke up
your skirt yeah, in fact, my skirt's so
high right now I'm about to take off.
You're welcome.
You're welcome, okay.
Thank you, luke.
Luke (36:04):
Thank you thank you, we'll see you next
time this is keith keith's, responsible for
the microphones.
Lara (36:08):
What can I say?
Go in rogue with lara logan.
Join us thursday morning every week.
Ciao, ciao.
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