May 28, 2024 • 51 mins
Welcome to this week's special episode of the Haunts and Legends Podcast, where we dive deep into the legend of Bigfoot! But first, join us as we recap an eventful weekend at My Haunted Manor, filled with ghostly encounters, including a large bat that gave us quite a scare.
In this episode, we discuss the infamous Patterson film and debate its authenticity. We delve into various theories surrounding Bigfoot, including its potential psychic abilities, interdimensional travel, and ties to Native American legends.
We also explore historical sightings and reports, from David Thompson's footprint discovery in Canada to the Cherokee belief in Bigfoot's supernatural powers. Join us as we ponder whether Bigfoot is an evolved species of ancient apes or a manifestation of collective human belief.
Stay tuned as we plan future adventures to find proof of Bigfoot and other cryptids, bringing you live updates and investigations from some of the most mysterious locations around the world.
Don't miss out on this thrilling episode and join the conversation as we unravel the mysteries of Bigfoot, the king of cryptids!
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Music.
What's up everyone we are haunts and
legends podcast and today
we have a special episode we are talking about the legend
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himself bigfoot but first
let's go over a little bit of a recap of our weekend a great weekend it was
absolutely so saturday we booked a stay at the my haunted manner to do a little
group of investigation with a couple of friends of ours.
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And it ended up being a fantastic night. It was a great night. Oh, amazing.
Activity was definitely there. We heard some things. We saw some things.
I did a solo in one of the addicts that we rarely investigate and come to find
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out that a bat scared the hell out of me. Yep.
You made friends with a bat and it was a very large bat. Mind you.
Yeah. Yeah. When we started up there, it almost hit me right in the head.
Probably the same bat that scared Megan on the third floor. Could be.
Or maybe there's two bats.
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I don't know what they're eating on, but they were big. I wish Megan would have
seen that bat that was almost inches away from her. That would have been hilarious. Hilarious.
Megan actually was wondering if she should go get checked and get like a rabies shot.
I mean, she didn't get bit.
But people say that you could be in a room with a bat and get bit and not even
know, which I feel like I would know if a bat bit me. I don't know. I feel it.
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Spooky did a number on my hand. So, I mean, if she did that,
I'm sure I'm going to feel that bat.
Yeah. Spooky is sweet and innocent. Does no wrong, though.
That's the first time she's been like that to me there's
pictures of you literally holding her in your arms like loving
on her i know i'm telling you
she's like a sour patch kid she's can
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be sweet as can be and then that bite hits you yeah pretty crazy but i was scrolling
through my little facebook today oh yes the my the my haunted manor project
posted a video of something we,
may or may not have also encountered during our investigation there hi jenny
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hey steph hi mom hi amber are you guys ready to see this because we encountered
the same thing which you guys will We'll actually see later down the road.
So I'm just going to share this real quick. So you guys can check this out.
Just keep your eye right here on the beach ball.
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And that's crazy. Right. And that happened. It happened after some people left the room.
And that was the night before we went. Yes.
So I'm definitely eager to see in upcoming episodes more about that beach ball.
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Yeah, Jenny, this place is monitored 24-7, 365 days a year.
They're also streaming all of the episodes on youtube under the my haunted project.
So definitely check them out you know
go like comment share their
stuff like they're a great group of guys that are doing it they also
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have this one is my haunted manor in columbia pa they also have my haunted hotel
and my haunted mansion that are over in the uk hey yep so they're definitely
a great group of people that are running the project so i definitely,
encourage you to go check it out for yourself because we've we've been there
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i've you've been there what four times i've been there four times i've probably been there about eight,
every time i go it's different it it is but and they say like when you go to
a place like they I can't guarantee activity, but I feel like when we go to
the manor, something always happens.
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Something always does. Oh, absolutely. And whether it's super significant or
whether it's just a couple little footsteps we hear.
But something's always popping off there.
But that'll have to be a topic for another day because we got some Bigfoot to talk about.
Absolutely. The legend himself. The legend.
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The most people say that he's the king of cryptids everybody knows who bigfoot is.
Everybody everybody's known him but not everybody has seen him so is he real
is he not i guess it's up for debate and i also guess it depends on which culture you're viewing it from,
because there's a lot of different cultures that have a lot of different opinions.
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Of what exactly bigfoot is and we'll get into that a little bit later But...
15 feet i think you froze up a little bit
am i still frozen nope you're good now okay but big foot but has been estimated
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to be as tall as 15 feet can you imagine that walking through the woods and
this 15 foot hairy being just comes running at you i feel like at that point i would
just lay down play dead i what would
you do would you run there's no way there's
no no way you cannot run a bigfoot no way but what if i just pretend i'm dead
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leave me alone do we make a lot of noise like we do with bears does it work
i don't know everyone's everyone's always talking about like oh this is what
you do to try to find a bigfoot but no one ever talks about this is what
happens when you do find one like what do
i do another fun thing when i
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was doing some little bit of research so you know with
it's like lions and tigers they have that low growl and sometimes that growl
is lower than 20 hertz so as humans we can hear as low as 20 hertz but they
have their sonic sounds,
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I guess we'll call them, that's below 20 hertz.
And they say, yeah, give him a good talking to. No, bad Bigfoot.
You know, mom, I'll try that when I find a Bigfoot and I'll let you know how that works. Or I won't.
But we all know Bigfoots are said to communicate through those low growls and whistles, knocks.
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They even throw a rock sometimes, apparently. I don't know. I've never met a
Bigfoot. If I did, I would probably ask him for his autograph.
And probably figure out how he avoids people so easily. Because I feel like
sometimes that would be something I'd like to have.
So, again, doing research in the first actual sighting of Bigfoot.
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And it's difficult. Because a lot of people claim to have the first sighting. Yeah.
But there's a lot of legends within the Native American side of things.
That say Bigfoot was here before the Europeans even came over to the United States.
So, again, we don't know how long they've been here.
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But there's a man by the name of David Thompson who is believed in one article
to be the first person to ever find a set of footprints in Canada. Did you know that?
I did not. I did not know there was Bigfoot in Canada.
But nonetheless and that was in 1811 so i wasn't even a twinkle in my father's
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eye at that point not even nothing the first published report of footprints was in 1846.
In arkansas you want to know how big that footprint was how big 22 inches now
i i wear a size 10 shoe i already know i got big feet but i can't even imagine
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walking around with those big clonkers,
can you imagine trying to find shoes if you
had to get shoes specially made can you imagine how expensive those
would be oh i know look my my uncle
wears a size 15 and he has a hard
time he's living in ohio not sure
how many stores around there are actually carrying in that size but
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he goes to the store and he's all like i wear a size 15 i'll just take whatever
you have in that size a size 15 shoe yeah i think i think that's the same size
that my uncle wears but he's also one so.
So I was also, I can't remember.
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I watched so many big foot shows recently and I can't remember where it was,
but there was an account of them finding like homemade,
like sandals made out of like twine that would fit a big foot.
I did see that. That interests me because why do they now go barefoot all of a sudden? I don't know.
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I don't know. There's a lot of I don't know. We can speculate.
Mm-hmm. But if they found shoes, sandals, that are made out of earthly things for them to wear...
Just goes to kind of prove that they are intelligent like
we are that they resemble more to
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to the intellectual level of a human than
they would to an ape yeah i mean
the possibilities are endless this thing
has eluded us for centuries centuries
you know some people say he's the
the hide-and-seek champion of the world you know i
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also read too that some people think
that bigfoot is vegetarian and some people think that he is a meat eater and
like eat me eats like deer and stuff i think it's a little bit of both probably
carnivore and herbivore so like a human yeah Yeah.
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I was watching an episode over the weekend of Finding Bigfoot,
and they were talking about how whenever they find a deer and their legs are
snapped, that that could be a potential sign of a Bigfoot.
Because if a Bigfoot's going to go after its prey, it's actually going to immobilize
the deer first by snapping its leg off.
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So you're saying that if I ever met a Bigfoot, I might just get my legs broken
first and still survive?
Five possibly but where are you gonna run to i guess i'm just gonna use the
upper body strength and just keep on calling and then if you have any type of
primate dna and into that big foot,
what do a lot of primates go for they're gonna go for your face yeah but again
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that goes back to everyone talks about what what to do to try to find one no
one ever talks about what do you do Do when you find one.
I mean, I know one thing, get a steady, good camera video.
One that's not shaking all over the place. Blurry as hell. Like hold your phone
still and get a good video.
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Oh, I like what Mike Boone said. Kick them in the nads.
But what if it's a female bug foot? What are you going to do? What are you going to do?
Twist its big foot nipples? Maybe? I mean, I'll leave that to you.
I'll see how well that pans out. While you're doing that, I'm going to keep
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wrecking. I've got to figure out some way to survive.
What, did you start tickling him? Tickling the armpit?
Christy, that is something that we're going to get in when we get to talking about theories.
Christy said she's heard that Bigfoot is able to time travel or interdimensional
and travels through portals.
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Amber said if you could reach the nipples.
You got to think, how tall are you? Amber definitely can't reach them.
Absolutely not. Sorry, Amber.
I mean, I'm 5'9". so
i still feel even with my arms stretched all the way up like i'm not even gonna
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free beeldridge's face if it's like a 15 foot tall big foot in no way but i'll
just be like hey sorry like i'm sorry to bother you like i gotta go i'll leave you alone like,
you might be able to cloak her become invisible maybe but we don't know i think if they're more
like interdimensional beings that would be the possibility of
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that i mean again and going
back down to the theories like they they say
that a lot of bigfoot sightings are also around
the same area where there's like ufo sightings so is bigfoot just a creature
that you know some people believe that he's a creature that's half human and
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that was bred with an alien species that They just drop on, drop off.
I've never seen it happen, so I can't tell you if it's true or not.
Why do you think the creature is only seen in those areas?
So, Bigfoots are also, like, they stay in heavily wooded areas,
you would assume, for cover.
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They're going to hide easier out in the forest than they would in the middle of New York City.
And if their goal is to stay away from you
know people like i would
i wouldn't want to be in the middle of the city if my goal is to stay away from people yeah
and if they're able to you know they
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have the survival skills to survive out there
you know if you're such a big creature right you're you're at that point you're
the apex predator in that area like i think if it was bigfoot versus a bear
like i would assume bigfoot would win you know bigfoot probably has thumbs,
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and is bigger yes thank you courtney
for doing all your sharing we really appreciate it absolutely courtney
going back to my list here now this goes to the the bigfoot evidence that everybody
knows about which is the patterson film this was captured in 1967 in bluff creek
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which is in Northern California.
So we're in case you haven't seen it, you know, no shame, but we're going to
play it and we'll see. We'll see what everyone says. Hey, try.
Hey, try Mike. I do believe in Bigfoot. Oh, absolutely.
This is the video of the Roger Patterson, Bigfoot footage. Oh.
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So. Katis, how do you determine that that's a female? That's my dad, by the way.
Is that Tony filming?
It is a bit shaky. But again, if you get anything out of this entire podcast,
like if you see a big foot, please hold your camera steady.
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Please just hold it steady. Clean your camera lens off so it's not dirty.
Like we're in a day and age where we have
high-tech stuff nowadays you know i
have a fairly new iphone like even if
you're scared hold it steady please please
but ray what do
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you think about that video i've seen that
video for a long time i even remember seeing that
as a kid back in the day i've seen
a lot of back and forth debates about it being fake being
real came across when of joe rogan's podcast the
other day about it possibly being a fake talking
about somebody in a suit as much
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as i want to believe that it's real i just don't know
i mean if it is somebody in a suit it looks real yeah there's there's a lot
of people like this that film specifically is very controversial like you have
one side of the spectrum that says it's real shit like Like it's real without
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a hundred, you know, without a doubt.
But then you have the other side of the spectrum. That's like,
but is it though? Like, no, it's just somebody in a suit.
Stephanie said, sorry, it was me taking a walk. Damn girl, you look good for
being from 1967 or whatever year it was. 1967.
Please send me over exactly what you do to make yourself look so good because I'm going to need that.
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But again some people think it's fake some people think it's real personally i think it's cool,
but i can't sit here and tell you i
absolutely 100 believe it's real or i 100 believe
it's fake i think i'm the kind of person that i
need to see something with my to determine whether or not i personally
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think it's real or not yeah and that goes
for every aspect like it goes from paranormal normal like we could be
on an investigation and you'd be like hey sierra like i just
saw this really cool thing happen and i'd be like oh shit like
that's super cool like i'm super happy for you that you like you had that experience but
you know i think i'll always have that that little bit of doubt in the back of
my head that because it didn't happen to me and that i
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didn't experience it be like like what
was it was there a logical explanation to it you know do i think there's a a
logical explanation for a man in a suit walking in the middle of the woods in
1967 in a full suit like the sun was shining there's no snow on the ground he
was probably hotter than hell like,
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what did he plan to get out of it but then again people are crazy you know i don't know i i really,
again i feel like i would have to see it for myself and experience it for myself
which you You know, in the future, when we go out searching for Bigfoot,
like for real, you know, I hope I see one.
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I hope I don't get up close and personal.
Hopefully not. Hopefully not. And if I do, I hope that I live to tell the tale,
even though 90% of the world will not believe me. But that's okay. Okay.
So one of the things we're talking about bringing to you guys and bringing some
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more content to this space is to actually go out and investigate some of these
sightings, just going wherever,
you know, Washington, California, wherever these,
big time sightings are, and hopefully just finding out for ourselves what's out there.
And that, that, that spans beyond Bigfoot as well.
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Like we're obviously gonna go look for bigfoot but we want to go check out mothman and you know,
goatman's bridge the jersey devil like there's
a whole list of things that we would like to go and like personally hunt for
i don't want to say hunt i just want to make more of a search because you know
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we're not we're not hunting it we just want to more of trying to prove the sightings,
just to prove that these things actually exist you know how crazy that would
be how crazy would it be for us to go to washington and like actually find a
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bigfoot at that point everybody would know who we are yeah walking around in
the woods looking for bigfoot finds him.
Unfortunately we're still gonna have those disbelievers but they come to the territory,
yeah but that's okay we were looking on the bfro website and you live in delaware
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and there was what, four Bigfoot sightings at Delaware?
Three. But there hasn't been any since 2012. Huh.
Steven, that's exactly what we want to do. Do you believe that Bigfoot are able
to shift between the third and fourth dimensions?
Wait, that's actually one of the things that I would love to chat about is the
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third, fourth, and fifth dimension because that kind of stuff really interests
me with the other dimensions.
Is it a possibility?
Maybe absolutely see i think i think
there's not i understand that there's not enough factual evidence and scientifical
evidence to prove that bigfoot is real right right but on the flip side of that
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there's not enough factual and scientific evidence to prove that it's not real yeah you know.
I don't know.
But yeah, Steven, we definitely want to get boots on the ground.
Boots are coming. Oh, yeah.
Unfortunately, until we find Bigfoot's actual body, it's going to be hard to prove it.
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I mean, we don't know how old they live, what kind of diseases may destroy them.
Thing that i was you know thinking about was where's their bodies but then you
go into like do they have their own ceremonial things that they do with burying the bodies or,
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is it things like you know for instance i do
deer hunt every year and when i go out shed hunting
you know a couple years ago i found out that
different animals actually eat eat the bones
for calcium so is
there just so much wildlife out there that will
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after the body is decomposed
that all wildlife just
feast on their bones for that calcium we don't know
if if one of the theories about
like they bury their dead right maybe
you know you'd have to go and find
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a spot where there's a cluster of sightings right you
know what's what's to
say that you can't get say a cadaver dog to go
and just search for remains yeah you
might be you know digging quite a bit for weeks you know ground penetrating
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radar yeah but that's also expensive offensive i don't know but it'd be cool
you know because if we could find a bigfoot body.
It might answer a lot of questions bodies are buried under rock mounts we have
hair and even several hands that's interesting i didn't know that they had hands well they have hands,
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they have a thumb well obviously that they have hands but i thought i took that
as in like Like, we have hair.
Like, they have collected hair and hands. Like, just the hands.
Wait, you have collected hands? Is that what you mean by several hands?
They leave shapes and terrible markings.
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Hmm. I know there's a theory that they leave gifts.
Like, strategically placed gifts for people that are out looking for them.
If anybody has anything that they can share, go ahead and share it with us.
Something that we would love to see, or even if there's anybody that you'd like
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to see us talk to, let us know.
Yeah, absolutely. This is definitely not going to be our first discussion about Bigfoot.
This is going to be something that we're always going to come back to.
Make last call mike does she how or whistle stop going back to to the schedule of topics.
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Because i'm hairy,
i'm gonna get out and be like listen i need your insurance my guy you see what trey said,
yeah there's i can't remember exactly what countries they
are but there's like three or four countries that have listed bigfoot as
an endangered species really i have
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to try to find the article right then how do you
list it as a species if you haven't like officially gotten
evidence that they exist though but
is there actually evidence and it's just so well
hidden in that we don't know about there's there's
evidence but nobody can prove that the
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evidence is real but i know like there's
a lot of college professors that actually like
examine all this stuff i mean there's there's college
professors out there that you know believe that this evidence is real it's just
like why is it so i guess shut down by i guess mainstream science possibly,
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my dad said new york state says you need fur takers license to hunt bigfoot but again.
The license to hunt something that doesn't exist make it
make sense plenty of states have enlisted as endangered is based off of if circumstantial
evidence but again you know they say if in the court of law circumstantial evidence
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doesn't really get you far right i mean i guess it depends but But, again,
if there's no hardcore proof that something exists,
why isn't it an endangered species?
Why do you need a fur taker's license to hunt it in New York State?
You know? Mm-hmm. But the last, as of this afternoon,
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the last sighting or the latest sighting was April 15th in Washington in Thurston County.
Why? Stephen said, why hunt Bigfoot? I don't really want to hunt Bigfoot.
I don't want to kill it or anything.
It's just, I guess, proven that it exists.
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And people have been doing that for years.
You know no steven we don't want to kill it we just want to go out and when
we say hunt we don't mean you know we don't we don't want to bring out a bunch
of guns and stuff and hunt this species,
we want to go out and just prove its existence i mean imagine if we were to
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find actual proven unproven history of Bigfoot.
Just everything could change for, you know, what we know about it.
And that's all we want to do is just find proof, not really hunting.
Yeah. It's different than deer hunting, for sure.
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But, you know, jumping into the theories, I think Christy mentioned on it earlier
about it being an extra-terrestrial that travels through dimensions.
Yeah. You know, there's a theory that it just it travels here to Earth.
It gathers supplies or whatever it needs. And then it just hops dimensions.
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What's it gathering, though? I don't know. Food?
Maybe. If you go into these dense woods and stuff, you know.
Or maybe, you know, there's all these mountains.
I'm sure there's a lot of undiscovered cave systems within those mountains that
we don't even know about, you know, depending on how old that you assume that
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this species has been around,
you know, within their own species,
you know, was there stuff they hidden in those mountains, in those caves that
they're coming back for?
And when we see them in the woods, it's just them going out to get food or water
because you would assume that they would have to eat and drink to survive.
Yeah. You know, are they here gathering something that was left?
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Years ago you know are they here to just see how we are
as a human population are they spiritual beings
sent here by an unknown god that's
protecting something i mean that's one of the beliefs of the yetis in the himalayas
is that they're protecting the mountains or protecting certain things that nobody
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knows about seeing that that goes kind of ties in with like the native American cultures,
some of them believe that, that Bigfoot, they have another term for it,
but that essentially Bigfoot is a forest spirit to protect the forest and protect the land.
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You know, like, like I said earlier, like the, the tale and the legend of Bigfoot
has been here long before we even came over to North America.
Yeah. So all of those Indian tribes and everything that's been here for hundreds
of years, they have legends of this.
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And I think legends have to come from somewhere.
I think that there has to be an instant. It's not just some random man writing
in a book saying, oh, I saw this random person or this random creature today
and passes that book down through his family.
And now all of his family member believes that that thing that he saw was real,
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which brings me to my next point.
Like some, is it possible that if a large enough group of people wholeheartedly
believe in something, does that give it the power us the power to manifest something that isn't real?
Like is the story of bigfoot and
the origin just been passed down through
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generations and we just
manifest it it's possible it is
possible i mean there's times where you go to certain like haunted locations
especially if you're going to like certain private residences where individuals
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can actually manifest spirits into their house Mm-hmm.
And again, neither you or I are here to say Bigfoot's real, Bigfoot's not real, right?
Because at the end of the day, we don't know.
I think that, again, legends don't come from nowhere.
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Or I would like to think they don't come from nowhere. Like something must have
happened to create this legend and this story that we've heard all of our lives.
And well before we were even alive, you know?
Is it just a spirit protecting the earth?
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Is it, you know, some form of God that we don't know about?
Yeah. Some people even think that it's...
So, prehistoric times, there was a species of a large ape.
Now i'm going to
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butcher this word when i say it but it's
the gigantopithecus you
know what i'm talking about oh the giant the
giant gigantic i just saw
this word yes i i've saw
this from playing art but it
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was a proceed for that prehistoric species
of large apes that were
bigger than humans yep that they
believe that bigfoot could be an evolved evolved form of that species now how
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it survived after you know the meteor hit the earth and kill little dinosaurs i don't know No,
it's possible. How long ago are we talking for this?
Like dinosaur times. 65 million years ago? Yeah.
Yes, the Gigantospithecus. That. Your dad has it right. Yeah, that one.
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But again, there's so many different things.
That's honestly where my beliefs come from with what Bigfoot possibly is.
You know, if we're talking about evolution and,
my thought of what it is is you
know we us humans and apes
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evolve from a common ancestor so if
you were to look at our dna technically we
are apes there is ape dna in us so you know what if apes and humans split from
the same common ancestor but also
bigfoot did and Bigfoot was just able to survive. But how did he survive?
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Until we get evidence that's something that we'll never know about.
There's a lot of unknowns, and again, that's why I like to talk about these
things, because there's no right or wrong answers, because there's nothing there
to prove you're right or wrong.
It's my opinion against your opinion, against Stephanie's opinion,
against everyone's opinion.
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There's no There's no science saying, right, you're full of crap.
I mean, even going back in time,
there was even a type of human that they considered the hobbit human.
They didn't survive, but they were an evolutionary part of human history.
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I believe they lived in caves, but they looked like hobbits pretty much.
I did not know that really yeah i did not look at a real-life hobbit yep a girl's
dream come true i don't think they may not have had the hobbit feet though,
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they were just saying that just a smaller civilization of a type of hominids,
so basically habits yep that's all i gotta know is habits you got me sold just no No rings, though.
I'm going to go adopt a hobbit.
I'm going to find one. If I find a hobbit in the woods, it's coming home with me. Mark my words.
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I'll ask nicely first. And if I have to throw it in a burlap sack, I'm not past that.
Your dad knows about them. My dad knows a lot of things.
Really? He does. I spent about two and a half hours on the phone with him until
like two o'clock in the morning the other night.
Talking about things that he knows and didn't even scratch the surface.
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My dad lives for this kind of stuff.
I guess me and him are going to have an interesting conversation about Mothman
when we go to the Mothman Festival then.
Yes, considering I can't go without him apparently.
Yes, Stephanie, if you see me walking out of the woods with a burlap sack,
no you don't. No you don't.
Did you know the top three states with Bigfoot sightings is Washington,
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california and pedicle i read what was
the third pennsylvania really i
knew about washington and california i didn't know about pennsylvania yeah i
was actually just watching eric mantel he went to new jersey and was out in
the woods in new jersey trying to find one because there was a sighting there which part.
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I think I told you about it last night. I can't remember the name of it.
Pine Barrens? Yes, that.
So that has to be on the list. So you're saying we have to go to the Pine Barrens now.
Not only do we have to deal with the Jersey Devil, but now we have to deal with Bigfoots.
Yes. Great. We're going to tag team.
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If Bigfoot and the Jersey Devil both come up, I'll take the Devil.
Maybe I can reason with him because, you know, the redheaded, no soul.
Maybe I can reason with him a little bit better. You get Bigfoot.
I'll try. Are you okay with that plan? I'll try my best.
We'll just have to see who can run faster. But the Jersey Devil can fly, so I don't think.
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You know, we're just going to have to hope for the best. Thanks, Steph.
Do you want to know the biggest footprint
from a bigfoot didn't you already say this no no 22 inches oh no that was the
first published report oh i got it in all right so let me know let me know what
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the biggest is then 24 inches long by eight inches is wide.
That's a big boy. Can you imagine getting kicked in the face with that?
One of those 15-footers. Yeah.
Yeah. There's been 1,340 sightings in Pennsylvania alone. Really? Mm-hmm.
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And 1,697 in Washington, or sorry, California.
Washington first. If you want to find a Bigfoot, go to Washington because it's
had over 2,000 sightings in Washington.
Washington's really loaded with just dense wooded areas.
Did you know that the
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cherokee indians native americans whatever
the correct term is think that bigfoot
has psychic abilities no it's a theory they say that bigfoot has psychic abilities
it's kind of like in they say it can read your mind so if bigfoot's reading
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my mind And we're screwed. Send help.
Also, my dad said he'll back you up with Bigfoot.
Thanks. So if they have fantastic psychic abilities, is that how they're able to stay hidden?
Yeah. Like my dad said, make you forget. To predict a human's every single move.
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Maybe. But it's said that, you know how people who have claimed to be abducted
by aliens, right? They say they...
They lose track of time in the blink of an eye. Is that the same concept with Bigfoots?
Because there's talks about people who have seen Bigfoot have claimed to have
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those kind of things happen.
They lose time and, you know, they can't recall what happened. Yeah.
You know, and we already also talked about like the Bigfoot sightings line up with UFO sightings.
You know in some cases so are are
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the aliens and bigfoot like talking to
each other awesome are the
bigfoot's offspring of some alien experiment
on human beings
my dad during
our little two and a half hour conversation until like
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two o'clock in the the morning and it kind of goes off the bigfoot track
a little bit but going onto the aliens he
was telling me about there being a on an indian reservation out west i can't
remember exactly where it was but there's like an underground like bunker type
deal and it has five levels and this came from an account of a man that worked
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there now the first two levels is humans.
The last two levels levels four and five are for aliens and the middle level
between the two is for the intermingle.
That's interesting. What bunker is this? He'd have to.
I can't remember. This is an area 51, is it? No, no, it's on an Indian reservation.
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I have my notes are elsewhere. I'll tell you more about it. Like exactly where
it is. Stephanie said to read her mind, right?
No, she said I read her mind about something I said.
I took it as Ray read my mind or not. Ray read my mind.
So what is stephanie thinking right now ray that we're awesome yeah yeah we are.
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But yeah so again is is bigfoot real is bigfoot just something that we've all
just made up in our minds because that's what we grew up here in i don't know
so like boots on the ground,
and that's what we're gonna do you know it's not gonna be this week it's not
gonna be next week that's it's going to be a little bit it's something that we're planning to do,
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we definitely want to provide you guys with the best content out there so it's,
there's a lot of things in the work that we have in the works that we have,
a lot of things we are pretty awesome i think you're a little biased on them
up just a little bit but yeah so on top of the cryptids you know we want to go to,
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haunted places also and collect evidence
of haunted locations provide evidence of these locations so that's another thing
we want to do and we we definitely have some things on our our bucket list that
we want to get to places that we want to investigate at absolutely,
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one of the places we are going to next week we are going to release an episode
about it next tuesday so stay tuned for that episode yeah if you guys want to
try to guess on where we're going.
But it's definitely going to be a pretty fun investigation, if you ask me.
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You know, we appreciate all the follows and everything that we've gotten,
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And yeah, this is like Stacey said, this is only our second episode.
We're three weeks into this.
So far, it's been an amazing journey. It has been. It's been a lot of fun doing it too. Mm-hmm.
You know, spending my time watching Bigfoot shows and doing research, like it's been great.
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And and like the whole like going out and doing these adventurous podcasts or episodes,
that we're going to be posting soon you know whoever you
guys want us to go out and try to get proof of let us
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to want us to go we will go if we have
service we will stream live from those areas don't know how well we're gonna
get service in the the woods of washington but we'll try we'll try i mean i
feel like the washington trip's a little far out the the lochness trip is a
little further out yeah absolutely,
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but i definitely want to go to lake lochness that is one of the places that
i've been dying to go to for years,
see I was a very like oh my gosh it'd be so cool to find Nessie and then Ryan
showed us that comparison the other day and I'm just like.
It's almost like we have to start with Champ first though just to get a little,
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bite into it ease ourselves into Nessie I mean Champ would be a little bit easier to get to,
it's only a couple hours drive for me yeah Yeah.
Champlain. We'll do Cham first. Because I'm telling you, if I'm going all the
way over to look for Nessie, like I'm taking like a two week excursion.
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Like I need to find a haunted castle that I'm going to investigate this haunted castle.
Like I have a, I have a list of things to do.
If we go to Scotland, that's not going to be just a one day.
Let's go see Lake Loch Ness and then go home. So we're going to make a whole
excursion out of that, doing different things so we can provide as much content
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as possible for a week, two weeks, whatever it takes.
Absolutely. So definitely stay tuned for all of those adventures because those
adventures will be coming at some point. But they'll be coming.
But I guess we will wrap this up.
If you were watching on the get haunted network page
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coming up at eight o'clock in less
than a minute is a van
down by the riv podcast with buddy and
brendan so stay tuned see
what they have in store for
their episode tonight you know we're again we're all
in this together you know steven i
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am currently from potter county pennsylvania but
i live in western new york now and i'm from
newark delaware but we we travel
down to like philadelphia area to to investigate
in that general area yep so but yeah thank you guys so much for watching stay
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tuned for next week's episode because that's going to be a doozy ray's gonna
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And we are going to get his reaction for that. Cause I am not going to send
him the cliff notes beforehand.
Nope. Don't, you know, maybe I can even get Megan to come on and talk about
some history since that's her force. Hey, that'd be great.
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We'll have her like really eerily tell you the history.
But you got anything else, right? I'm all good. And I'm good too. All right.
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Music.
What's up everyone we are haunts and
legends podcast and today
we have a special episode we are talking about the legend
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himself bigfoot but first
let's go over a little bit of a recap of our weekend a great weekend it was
absolutely so saturday we booked a stay at the my haunted manner to do a little
group of investigation with a couple of friends of ours.
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And it ended up being a fantastic night. It was a great night. Oh, amazing.
Activity was definitely there. We heard some things. We saw some things.
I did a solo in one of the addicts that we rarely investigate and come to find
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out that a bat scared the hell out of me. Yep.
You made friends with a bat and it was a very large bat. Mind you.
Yeah. Yeah. When we started up there, it almost hit me right in the head.
Probably the same bat that scared Megan on the third floor. Could be.
Or maybe there's two bats.
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I don't know what they're eating on, but they were big. I wish Megan would have
seen that bat that was almost inches away from her. That would have been hilarious. Hilarious.
Megan actually was wondering if she should go get checked and get like a rabies shot.
I mean, she didn't get bit.
But people say that you could be in a room with a bat and get bit and not even
know, which I feel like I would know if a bat bit me. I don't know. I feel it.
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Spooky did a number on my hand. So, I mean, if she did that,
I'm sure I'm going to feel that bat.
Yeah. Spooky is sweet and innocent. Does no wrong, though.
That's the first time she's been like that to me there's
pictures of you literally holding her in your arms like loving
on her i know i'm telling you
she's like a sour patch kid she's can
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be sweet as can be and then that bite hits you yeah pretty crazy but i was scrolling
through my little facebook today oh yes the my the my haunted manor project
posted a video of something we,
may or may not have also encountered during our investigation there hi jenny
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hey steph hi mom hi amber are you guys ready to see this because we encountered
the same thing which you guys will We'll actually see later down the road.
So I'm just going to share this real quick. So you guys can check this out.
Just keep your eye right here on the beach ball.
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And that's crazy. Right. And that happened. It happened after some people left the room.
And that was the night before we went. Yes.
So I'm definitely eager to see in upcoming episodes more about that beach ball.
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Yeah, Jenny, this place is monitored 24-7, 365 days a year.
They're also streaming all of the episodes on youtube under the my haunted project.
So definitely check them out you know
go like comment share their
stuff like they're a great group of guys that are doing it they also
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have this one is my haunted manor in columbia pa they also have my haunted hotel
and my haunted mansion that are over in the uk hey yep so they're definitely
a great group of people that are running the project so i definitely,
encourage you to go check it out for yourself because we've we've been there
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i've you've been there what four times i've been there four times i've probably been there about eight,
every time i go it's different it it is but and they say like when you go to
a place like they I can't guarantee activity, but I feel like when we go to
the manor, something always happens.
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Something always does. Oh, absolutely. And whether it's super significant or
whether it's just a couple little footsteps we hear.
But something's always popping off there.
But that'll have to be a topic for another day because we got some Bigfoot to talk about.
Absolutely. The legend himself. The legend.
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The most people say that he's the king of cryptids everybody knows who bigfoot is.
Everybody everybody's known him but not everybody has seen him so is he real
is he not i guess it's up for debate and i also guess it depends on which culture you're viewing it from,
because there's a lot of different cultures that have a lot of different opinions.
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Of what exactly bigfoot is and we'll get into that a little bit later But...
15 feet i think you froze up a little bit
am i still frozen nope you're good now okay but big foot but has been estimated
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to be as tall as 15 feet can you imagine that walking through the woods and
this 15 foot hairy being just comes running at you i feel like at that point i would
just lay down play dead i what would
you do would you run there's no way there's
no no way you cannot run a bigfoot no way but what if i just pretend i'm dead
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leave me alone do we make a lot of noise like we do with bears does it work
i don't know everyone's everyone's always talking about like oh this is what
you do to try to find a bigfoot but no one ever talks about this is what
happens when you do find one like what do
i do another fun thing when i
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was doing some little bit of research so you know with
it's like lions and tigers they have that low growl and sometimes that growl
is lower than 20 hertz so as humans we can hear as low as 20 hertz but they
have their sonic sounds,
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I guess we'll call them, that's below 20 hertz.
And they say, yeah, give him a good talking to. No, bad Bigfoot.
You know, mom, I'll try that when I find a Bigfoot and I'll let you know how that works. Or I won't.
But we all know Bigfoots are said to communicate through those low growls and whistles, knocks.
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They even throw a rock sometimes, apparently. I don't know. I've never met a
Bigfoot. If I did, I would probably ask him for his autograph.
And probably figure out how he avoids people so easily. Because I feel like
sometimes that would be something I'd like to have.
So, again, doing research in the first actual sighting of Bigfoot.
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And it's difficult. Because a lot of people claim to have the first sighting. Yeah.
But there's a lot of legends within the Native American side of things.
That say Bigfoot was here before the Europeans even came over to the United States.
So, again, we don't know how long they've been here.
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But there's a man by the name of David Thompson who is believed in one article
to be the first person to ever find a set of footprints in Canada. Did you know that?
I did not. I did not know there was Bigfoot in Canada.
But nonetheless and that was in 1811 so i wasn't even a twinkle in my father's
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eye at that point not even nothing the first published report of footprints was in 1846.
In arkansas you want to know how big that footprint was how big 22 inches now
i i wear a size 10 shoe i already know i got big feet but i can't even imagine
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walking around with those big clonkers,
can you imagine trying to find shoes if you
had to get shoes specially made can you imagine how expensive those
would be oh i know look my my uncle
wears a size 15 and he has a hard
time he's living in ohio not sure
how many stores around there are actually carrying in that size but
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he goes to the store and he's all like i wear a size 15 i'll just take whatever
you have in that size a size 15 shoe yeah i think i think that's the same size
that my uncle wears but he's also one so.
So I was also, I can't remember.
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I watched so many big foot shows recently and I can't remember where it was,
but there was an account of them finding like homemade,
like sandals made out of like twine that would fit a big foot.
I did see that. That interests me because why do they now go barefoot all of a sudden? I don't know.
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I don't know. There's a lot of I don't know. We can speculate.
Mm-hmm. But if they found shoes, sandals, that are made out of earthly things for them to wear...
Just goes to kind of prove that they are intelligent like
we are that they resemble more to
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to the intellectual level of a human than
they would to an ape yeah i mean
the possibilities are endless this thing
has eluded us for centuries centuries
you know some people say he's the
the hide-and-seek champion of the world you know i
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also read too that some people think
that bigfoot is vegetarian and some people think that he is a meat eater and
like eat me eats like deer and stuff i think it's a little bit of both probably
carnivore and herbivore so like a human yeah Yeah.
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I was watching an episode over the weekend of Finding Bigfoot,
and they were talking about how whenever they find a deer and their legs are
snapped, that that could be a potential sign of a Bigfoot.
Because if a Bigfoot's going to go after its prey, it's actually going to immobilize
the deer first by snapping its leg off.
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So you're saying that if I ever met a Bigfoot, I might just get my legs broken
first and still survive?
Five possibly but where are you gonna run to i guess i'm just gonna use the
upper body strength and just keep on calling and then if you have any type of
primate dna and into that big foot,
what do a lot of primates go for they're gonna go for your face yeah but again
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that goes back to everyone talks about what what to do to try to find one no
one ever talks about what do you do Do when you find one.
I mean, I know one thing, get a steady, good camera video.
One that's not shaking all over the place. Blurry as hell. Like hold your phone
still and get a good video.
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Oh, I like what Mike Boone said. Kick them in the nads.
But what if it's a female bug foot? What are you going to do? What are you going to do?
Twist its big foot nipples? Maybe? I mean, I'll leave that to you.
I'll see how well that pans out. While you're doing that, I'm going to keep
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wrecking. I've got to figure out some way to survive.
What, did you start tickling him? Tickling the armpit?
Christy, that is something that we're going to get in when we get to talking about theories.
Christy said she's heard that Bigfoot is able to time travel or interdimensional
and travels through portals.
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Amber said if you could reach the nipples.
You got to think, how tall are you? Amber definitely can't reach them.
Absolutely not. Sorry, Amber.
I mean, I'm 5'9". so
i still feel even with my arms stretched all the way up like i'm not even gonna
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free beeldridge's face if it's like a 15 foot tall big foot in no way but i'll
just be like hey sorry like i'm sorry to bother you like i gotta go i'll leave you alone like,
you might be able to cloak her become invisible maybe but we don't know i think if they're more
like interdimensional beings that would be the possibility of
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that i mean again and going
back down to the theories like they they say
that a lot of bigfoot sightings are also around
the same area where there's like ufo sightings so is bigfoot just a creature
that you know some people believe that he's a creature that's half human and
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that was bred with an alien species that They just drop on, drop off.
I've never seen it happen, so I can't tell you if it's true or not.
Why do you think the creature is only seen in those areas?
So, Bigfoots are also, like, they stay in heavily wooded areas,
you would assume, for cover.
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They're going to hide easier out in the forest than they would in the middle of New York City.
And if their goal is to stay away from you
know people like i would
i wouldn't want to be in the middle of the city if my goal is to stay away from people yeah
and if they're able to you know they
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have the survival skills to survive out there
you know if you're such a big creature right you're you're at that point you're
the apex predator in that area like i think if it was bigfoot versus a bear
like i would assume bigfoot would win you know bigfoot probably has thumbs,
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and is bigger yes thank you courtney
for doing all your sharing we really appreciate it absolutely courtney
going back to my list here now this goes to the the bigfoot evidence that everybody
knows about which is the patterson film this was captured in 1967 in bluff creek
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which is in Northern California.
So we're in case you haven't seen it, you know, no shame, but we're going to
play it and we'll see. We'll see what everyone says. Hey, try.
Hey, try Mike. I do believe in Bigfoot. Oh, absolutely.
This is the video of the Roger Patterson, Bigfoot footage. Oh.
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So. Katis, how do you determine that that's a female? That's my dad, by the way.
Is that Tony filming?
It is a bit shaky. But again, if you get anything out of this entire podcast,
like if you see a big foot, please hold your camera steady.
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Please just hold it steady. Clean your camera lens off so it's not dirty.
Like we're in a day and age where we have
high-tech stuff nowadays you know i
have a fairly new iphone like even if
you're scared hold it steady please please
but ray what do
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you think about that video i've seen that
video for a long time i even remember seeing that
as a kid back in the day i've seen
a lot of back and forth debates about it being fake being
real came across when of joe rogan's podcast the
other day about it possibly being a fake talking
about somebody in a suit as much
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as i want to believe that it's real i just don't know
i mean if it is somebody in a suit it looks real yeah there's there's a lot
of people like this that film specifically is very controversial like you have
one side of the spectrum that says it's real shit like Like it's real without
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a hundred, you know, without a doubt.
But then you have the other side of the spectrum. That's like,
but is it though? Like, no, it's just somebody in a suit.
Stephanie said, sorry, it was me taking a walk. Damn girl, you look good for
being from 1967 or whatever year it was. 1967.
Please send me over exactly what you do to make yourself look so good because I'm going to need that.
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But again some people think it's fake some people think it's real personally i think it's cool,
but i can't sit here and tell you i
absolutely 100 believe it's real or i 100 believe
it's fake i think i'm the kind of person that i
need to see something with my to determine whether or not i personally
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think it's real or not yeah and that goes
for every aspect like it goes from paranormal normal like we could be
on an investigation and you'd be like hey sierra like i just
saw this really cool thing happen and i'd be like oh shit like
that's super cool like i'm super happy for you that you like you had that experience but
you know i think i'll always have that that little bit of doubt in the back of
my head that because it didn't happen to me and that i
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didn't experience it be like like what
was it was there a logical explanation to it you know do i think there's a a
logical explanation for a man in a suit walking in the middle of the woods in
1967 in a full suit like the sun was shining there's no snow on the ground he
was probably hotter than hell like,
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what did he plan to get out of it but then again people are crazy you know i don't know i i really,
again i feel like i would have to see it for myself and experience it for myself
which you You know, in the future, when we go out searching for Bigfoot,
like for real, you know, I hope I see one.
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I hope I don't get up close and personal.
Hopefully not. Hopefully not. And if I do, I hope that I live to tell the tale,
even though 90% of the world will not believe me. But that's okay. Okay.
So one of the things we're talking about bringing to you guys and bringing some
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more content to this space is to actually go out and investigate some of these
sightings, just going wherever,
you know, Washington, California, wherever these,
big time sightings are, and hopefully just finding out for ourselves what's out there.
And that, that, that spans beyond Bigfoot as well.
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Like we're obviously gonna go look for bigfoot but we want to go check out mothman and you know,
goatman's bridge the jersey devil like there's
a whole list of things that we would like to go and like personally hunt for
i don't want to say hunt i just want to make more of a search because you know
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we're not we're not hunting it we just want to more of trying to prove the sightings,
just to prove that these things actually exist you know how crazy that would
be how crazy would it be for us to go to washington and like actually find a
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bigfoot at that point everybody would know who we are yeah walking around in
the woods looking for bigfoot finds him.
Unfortunately we're still gonna have those disbelievers but they come to the territory,
yeah but that's okay we were looking on the bfro website and you live in delaware
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and there was what, four Bigfoot sightings at Delaware?
Three. But there hasn't been any since 2012. Huh.
Steven, that's exactly what we want to do. Do you believe that Bigfoot are able
to shift between the third and fourth dimensions?
Wait, that's actually one of the things that I would love to chat about is the
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third, fourth, and fifth dimension because that kind of stuff really interests
me with the other dimensions.
Is it a possibility?
Maybe absolutely see i think i think
there's not i understand that there's not enough factual evidence and scientifical
evidence to prove that bigfoot is real right right but on the flip side of that
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there's not enough factual and scientific evidence to prove that it's not real yeah you know.
I don't know.
But yeah, Steven, we definitely want to get boots on the ground.
Boots are coming. Oh, yeah.
Unfortunately, until we find Bigfoot's actual body, it's going to be hard to prove it.
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I mean, we don't know how old they live, what kind of diseases may destroy them.
Thing that i was you know thinking about was where's their bodies but then you
go into like do they have their own ceremonial things that they do with burying the bodies or,
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is it things like you know for instance i do
deer hunt every year and when i go out shed hunting
you know a couple years ago i found out that
different animals actually eat eat the bones
for calcium so is
there just so much wildlife out there that will
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after the body is decomposed
that all wildlife just
feast on their bones for that calcium we don't know
if if one of the theories about
like they bury their dead right maybe
you know you'd have to go and find
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a spot where there's a cluster of sightings right you
know what's what's to
say that you can't get say a cadaver dog to go
and just search for remains yeah you
might be you know digging quite a bit for weeks you know ground penetrating
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radar yeah but that's also expensive offensive i don't know but it'd be cool
you know because if we could find a bigfoot body.
It might answer a lot of questions bodies are buried under rock mounts we have
hair and even several hands that's interesting i didn't know that they had hands well they have hands,
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they have a thumb well obviously that they have hands but i thought i took that
as in like Like, we have hair.
Like, they have collected hair and hands. Like, just the hands.
Wait, you have collected hands? Is that what you mean by several hands?
They leave shapes and terrible markings.
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Hmm. I know there's a theory that they leave gifts.
Like, strategically placed gifts for people that are out looking for them.
If anybody has anything that they can share, go ahead and share it with us.
Something that we would love to see, or even if there's anybody that you'd like
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to see us talk to, let us know.
Yeah, absolutely. This is definitely not going to be our first discussion about Bigfoot.
This is going to be something that we're always going to come back to.
Make last call mike does she how or whistle stop going back to to the schedule of topics.
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Because i'm hairy,
i'm gonna get out and be like listen i need your insurance my guy you see what trey said,
yeah there's i can't remember exactly what countries they
are but there's like three or four countries that have listed bigfoot as
an endangered species really i have
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to try to find the article right then how do you
list it as a species if you haven't like officially gotten
evidence that they exist though but
is there actually evidence and it's just so well
hidden in that we don't know about there's there's
evidence but nobody can prove that the
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evidence is real but i know like there's
a lot of college professors that actually like
examine all this stuff i mean there's there's college
professors out there that you know believe that this evidence is real it's just
like why is it so i guess shut down by i guess mainstream science possibly,
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my dad said new york state says you need fur takers license to hunt bigfoot but again.
The license to hunt something that doesn't exist make it
make sense plenty of states have enlisted as endangered is based off of if circumstantial
evidence but again you know they say if in the court of law circumstantial evidence
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doesn't really get you far right i mean i guess it depends but But, again,
if there's no hardcore proof that something exists,
why isn't it an endangered species?
Why do you need a fur taker's license to hunt it in New York State?
You know? Mm-hmm. But the last, as of this afternoon,
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the last sighting or the latest sighting was April 15th in Washington in Thurston County.
Why? Stephen said, why hunt Bigfoot? I don't really want to hunt Bigfoot.
I don't want to kill it or anything.
It's just, I guess, proven that it exists.
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And people have been doing that for years.
You know no steven we don't want to kill it we just want to go out and when
we say hunt we don't mean you know we don't we don't want to bring out a bunch
of guns and stuff and hunt this species,
we want to go out and just prove its existence i mean imagine if we were to
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find actual proven unproven history of Bigfoot.
Just everything could change for, you know, what we know about it.
And that's all we want to do is just find proof, not really hunting.
Yeah. It's different than deer hunting, for sure.
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But, you know, jumping into the theories, I think Christy mentioned on it earlier
about it being an extra-terrestrial that travels through dimensions.
Yeah. You know, there's a theory that it just it travels here to Earth.
It gathers supplies or whatever it needs. And then it just hops dimensions.
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What's it gathering, though? I don't know. Food?
Maybe. If you go into these dense woods and stuff, you know.
Or maybe, you know, there's all these mountains.
I'm sure there's a lot of undiscovered cave systems within those mountains that
we don't even know about, you know, depending on how old that you assume that
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this species has been around,
you know, within their own species,
you know, was there stuff they hidden in those mountains, in those caves that
they're coming back for?
And when we see them in the woods, it's just them going out to get food or water
because you would assume that they would have to eat and drink to survive.
Yeah. You know, are they here gathering something that was left?
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Years ago you know are they here to just see how we are
as a human population are they spiritual beings
sent here by an unknown god that's
protecting something i mean that's one of the beliefs of the yetis in the himalayas
is that they're protecting the mountains or protecting certain things that nobody
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knows about seeing that that goes kind of ties in with like the native American cultures,
some of them believe that, that Bigfoot, they have another term for it,
but that essentially Bigfoot is a forest spirit to protect the forest and protect the land.
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You know, like, like I said earlier, like the, the tale and the legend of Bigfoot
has been here long before we even came over to North America.
Yeah. So all of those Indian tribes and everything that's been here for hundreds
of years, they have legends of this.
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And I think legends have to come from somewhere.
I think that there has to be an instant. It's not just some random man writing
in a book saying, oh, I saw this random person or this random creature today
and passes that book down through his family.
And now all of his family member believes that that thing that he saw was real,
(31:20):
which brings me to my next point.
Like some, is it possible that if a large enough group of people wholeheartedly
believe in something, does that give it the power us the power to manifest something that isn't real?
Like is the story of bigfoot and
the origin just been passed down through
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generations and we just
manifest it it's possible it is
possible i mean there's times where you go to certain like haunted locations
especially if you're going to like certain private residences where individuals
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can actually manifest spirits into their house Mm-hmm.
And again, neither you or I are here to say Bigfoot's real, Bigfoot's not real, right?
Because at the end of the day, we don't know.
I think that, again, legends don't come from nowhere.
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Or I would like to think they don't come from nowhere. Like something must have
happened to create this legend and this story that we've heard all of our lives.
And well before we were even alive, you know?
Is it just a spirit protecting the earth?
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Is it, you know, some form of God that we don't know about?
Yeah. Some people even think that it's...
So, prehistoric times, there was a species of a large ape.
Now i'm going to
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butcher this word when i say it but it's
the gigantopithecus you
know what i'm talking about oh the giant the
giant gigantic i just saw
this word yes i i've saw
this from playing art but it
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was a proceed for that prehistoric species
of large apes that were
bigger than humans yep that they
believe that bigfoot could be an evolved evolved form of that species now how
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it survived after you know the meteor hit the earth and kill little dinosaurs i don't know No,
it's possible. How long ago are we talking for this?
Like dinosaur times. 65 million years ago? Yeah.
Yes, the Gigantospithecus. That. Your dad has it right. Yeah, that one.
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But again, there's so many different things.
That's honestly where my beliefs come from with what Bigfoot possibly is.
You know, if we're talking about evolution and,
my thought of what it is is you
know we us humans and apes
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evolve from a common ancestor so if
you were to look at our dna technically we
are apes there is ape dna in us so you know what if apes and humans split from
the same common ancestor but also
bigfoot did and Bigfoot was just able to survive. But how did he survive?
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Until we get evidence that's something that we'll never know about.
There's a lot of unknowns, and again, that's why I like to talk about these
things, because there's no right or wrong answers, because there's nothing there
to prove you're right or wrong.
It's my opinion against your opinion, against Stephanie's opinion,
against everyone's opinion.
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There's no There's no science saying, right, you're full of crap.
I mean, even going back in time,
there was even a type of human that they considered the hobbit human.
They didn't survive, but they were an evolutionary part of human history.
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I believe they lived in caves, but they looked like hobbits pretty much.
I did not know that really yeah i did not look at a real-life hobbit yep a girl's
dream come true i don't think they may not have had the hobbit feet though,
(36:11):
they were just saying that just a smaller civilization of a type of hominids,
so basically habits yep that's all i gotta know is habits you got me sold just no No rings, though.
I'm going to go adopt a hobbit.
I'm going to find one. If I find a hobbit in the woods, it's coming home with me. Mark my words.
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I'll ask nicely first. And if I have to throw it in a burlap sack, I'm not past that.
Your dad knows about them. My dad knows a lot of things.
Really? He does. I spent about two and a half hours on the phone with him until
like two o'clock in the morning the other night.
Talking about things that he knows and didn't even scratch the surface.
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My dad lives for this kind of stuff.
I guess me and him are going to have an interesting conversation about Mothman
when we go to the Mothman Festival then.
Yes, considering I can't go without him apparently.
Yes, Stephanie, if you see me walking out of the woods with a burlap sack,
no you don't. No you don't.
Did you know the top three states with Bigfoot sightings is Washington,
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california and pedicle i read what was
the third pennsylvania really i
knew about washington and california i didn't know about pennsylvania yeah i
was actually just watching eric mantel he went to new jersey and was out in
the woods in new jersey trying to find one because there was a sighting there which part.
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I think I told you about it last night. I can't remember the name of it.
Pine Barrens? Yes, that.
So that has to be on the list. So you're saying we have to go to the Pine Barrens now.
Not only do we have to deal with the Jersey Devil, but now we have to deal with Bigfoots.
Yes. Great. We're going to tag team.
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If Bigfoot and the Jersey Devil both come up, I'll take the Devil.
Maybe I can reason with him because, you know, the redheaded, no soul.
Maybe I can reason with him a little bit better. You get Bigfoot.
I'll try. Are you okay with that plan? I'll try my best.
We'll just have to see who can run faster. But the Jersey Devil can fly, so I don't think.
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You know, we're just going to have to hope for the best. Thanks, Steph.
Do you want to know the biggest footprint
from a bigfoot didn't you already say this no no 22 inches oh no that was the
first published report oh i got it in all right so let me know let me know what
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the biggest is then 24 inches long by eight inches is wide.
That's a big boy. Can you imagine getting kicked in the face with that?
One of those 15-footers. Yeah.
Yeah. There's been 1,340 sightings in Pennsylvania alone. Really? Mm-hmm.
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And 1,697 in Washington, or sorry, California.
Washington first. If you want to find a Bigfoot, go to Washington because it's
had over 2,000 sightings in Washington.
Washington's really loaded with just dense wooded areas.
Did you know that the
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cherokee indians native americans whatever
the correct term is think that bigfoot
has psychic abilities no it's a theory they say that bigfoot has psychic abilities
it's kind of like in they say it can read your mind so if bigfoot's reading
(40:09):
my mind And we're screwed. Send help.
Also, my dad said he'll back you up with Bigfoot.
Thanks. So if they have fantastic psychic abilities, is that how they're able to stay hidden?
Yeah. Like my dad said, make you forget. To predict a human's every single move.
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Maybe. But it's said that, you know how people who have claimed to be abducted
by aliens, right? They say they...
They lose track of time in the blink of an eye. Is that the same concept with Bigfoots?
Because there's talks about people who have seen Bigfoot have claimed to have
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those kind of things happen.
They lose time and, you know, they can't recall what happened. Yeah.
You know, and we already also talked about like the Bigfoot sightings line up with UFO sightings.
You know in some cases so are are
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the aliens and bigfoot like talking to
each other awesome are the
bigfoot's offspring of some alien experiment
on human beings
my dad during
our little two and a half hour conversation until like
(41:33):
two o'clock in the the morning and it kind of goes off the bigfoot track
a little bit but going onto the aliens he
was telling me about there being a on an indian reservation out west i can't
remember exactly where it was but there's like an underground like bunker type
deal and it has five levels and this came from an account of a man that worked
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there now the first two levels is humans.
The last two levels levels four and five are for aliens and the middle level
between the two is for the intermingle.
That's interesting. What bunker is this? He'd have to.
I can't remember. This is an area 51, is it? No, no, it's on an Indian reservation.
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I have my notes are elsewhere. I'll tell you more about it. Like exactly where
it is. Stephanie said to read her mind, right?
No, she said I read her mind about something I said.
I took it as Ray read my mind or not. Ray read my mind.
So what is stephanie thinking right now ray that we're awesome yeah yeah we are.
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But yeah so again is is bigfoot real is bigfoot just something that we've all
just made up in our minds because that's what we grew up here in i don't know
so like boots on the ground,
and that's what we're gonna do you know it's not gonna be this week it's not
gonna be next week that's it's going to be a little bit it's something that we're planning to do,
(43:10):
we definitely want to provide you guys with the best content out there so it's,
there's a lot of things in the work that we have in the works that we have,
a lot of things we are pretty awesome i think you're a little biased on them
up just a little bit but yeah so on top of the cryptids you know we want to go to,
(43:34):
haunted places also and collect evidence
of haunted locations provide evidence of these locations so that's another thing
we want to do and we we definitely have some things on our our bucket list that
we want to get to places that we want to investigate at absolutely,
(43:59):
one of the places we are going to next week we are going to release an episode
about it next tuesday so stay tuned for that episode yeah if you guys want to
try to guess on where we're going.
But it's definitely going to be a pretty fun investigation, if you ask me.
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It's going to be great. And we are going to try to go live from there.
Service-dependent, but we should be okay.
And we can even go live on TikTok.
We are almost to 900 followers on TikTok. So that's pretty cool.
Definitely like, share, tell your friends.
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(45:46):
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Leave comments ask away there's there's there's no judgment here there's no
wrong answers if you even if you guys have like you know constructive criticism
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you're doing this podcast like i think you should try doing this like we will
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(46:32):
something like this like we're very new to it like absolutely thank god for
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You know, we appreciate all the follows and everything that we've gotten,
all the support. You guys have been amazing so far.
And yeah, this is like Stacey said, this is only our second episode.
We're three weeks into this.
So far, it's been an amazing journey. It has been. It's been a lot of fun doing it too. Mm-hmm.
You know, spending my time watching Bigfoot shows and doing research, like it's been great.
(47:22):
And and like the whole like going out and doing these adventurous podcasts or episodes,
that we're going to be posting soon you know whoever you
guys want us to go out and try to get proof of let us
know because we will go wherever you want
(47:44):
to want us to go we will go if we have
service we will stream live from those areas don't know how well we're gonna
get service in the the woods of washington but we'll try we'll try i mean i
feel like the washington trip's a little far out the the lochness trip is a
little further out yeah absolutely,
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but i definitely want to go to lake lochness that is one of the places that
i've been dying to go to for years,
see I was a very like oh my gosh it'd be so cool to find Nessie and then Ryan
showed us that comparison the other day and I'm just like.
It's almost like we have to start with Champ first though just to get a little,
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bite into it ease ourselves into Nessie I mean Champ would be a little bit easier to get to,
it's only a couple hours drive for me yeah Yeah.
Champlain. We'll do Cham first. Because I'm telling you, if I'm going all the
way over to look for Nessie, like I'm taking like a two week excursion.
(48:55):
Like I need to find a haunted castle that I'm going to investigate this haunted castle.
Like I have a, I have a list of things to do.
If we go to Scotland, that's not going to be just a one day.
Let's go see Lake Loch Ness and then go home. So we're going to make a whole
excursion out of that, doing different things so we can provide as much content
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as possible for a week, two weeks, whatever it takes.
Absolutely. So definitely stay tuned for all of those adventures because those
adventures will be coming at some point. But they'll be coming.
But I guess we will wrap this up.
If you were watching on the get haunted network page
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coming up at eight o'clock in less
than a minute is a van
down by the riv podcast with buddy and
brendan so stay tuned see
what they have in store for
their episode tonight you know we're again we're all
in this together you know steven i
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am currently from potter county pennsylvania but
i live in western new york now and i'm from
newark delaware but we we travel
down to like philadelphia area to to investigate
in that general area yep so but yeah thank you guys so much for watching stay
(50:22):
tuned for next week's episode because that's going to be a doozy ray's gonna
learn some information that he does not know.
And we are going to get his reaction for that. Cause I am not going to send
him the cliff notes beforehand.
Nope. Don't, you know, maybe I can even get Megan to come on and talk about
some history since that's her force. Hey, that'd be great.
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We'll have her like really eerily tell you the history.
But you got anything else, right? I'm all good. And I'm good too. All right.
We love you guys so much. Thank you. Appreciate you guys tuning in.
Just look out for us every Tuesday at 7 p.m. And we look forward to seeing everybody next Tuesday.
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Absolutely. We'll see you there. All right. Have a good night, guys. Bye.
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