September 11, 2024 • 65 mins
Welcome to another spine-chilling episode of Haunts and Legends with your hosts, Ray and Sierra! This week, we dive deep into the eerie legend of La Llorona, the Weeping Woman, whose mournful cries have haunted the riverbanks from Mexico to Louisiana for centuries.
Join us as we unravel the tragic tale of Maria, a beautiful woman whose life was shattered by betrayal, leading to a series of heartbreaking events. Discover the cultural and historical context of this haunting story, and hear about the modern interpretations that keep the legend alive today.
We also discuss the possible scientific explanations for the weeping sounds and the mysterious disappearances of children near bodies of water. Could it be more than just a legend?
Don't miss out on our special shout-outs, including a heartfelt thank you to our newest Patreon member, Christy, and exciting news about our new podcast, "Shit Just Got Real," airing Wednesdays at 8 PM.
So, grab your headphones and get ready for a chilling ride into the world of Haunts and Legends!
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What's going on everybody? Welcome to Haunts and Legends. I am your host,
Ray, and this is my co-host, Sierra.
How's everybody going tonight?
Hello, everybody. I was just telling Ray that it feels so weird to be back on our own again.
It's been a while. It has been a while.
How do I function without all of my friends? We're going to find out, that's for sure.
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But how is everybody how is that one's week
going we have damien here apparently it's morning
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mama i see welcome i see hello amber mortified hope you are well we are fantastic
we are not mortified whoa joe what's going on man love you too buddy wait till
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Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you, Christy. Thank you.
So today, Ray, what are we talking about today?
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We are talking about a mysterious legend that dates back a few centuries,
back to the Hispanic times of the Aztecs, called La Llorona.
La Llorona. Is it La Rona?
La Llorona. Llorona.
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So the la, you have the first letter, the first word of la, and then Llorona sounds like the J.
There's no J. There isn't, but that's just how it is when you're speaking Spanish.
Languages are weird. Llorona.
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Llorona. I'm still going to say Llorona. oh
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Damien said, cool. I did wonder how to say that. Damien, I want to make sure
when I hear you in the chat tomorrow that you say, Llorona. Llorona.
I cannot. So, right. What is Llorona?
So, La Llorona.
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They named it that because what it means is the weeping woman.
And this takes us to a historical setting of colonial Mexico.
So I'm going to go back to the 16th and 17th centuries of Mexico with the Aztecs.
Mexico was a land of rich cultural confluence where indigenous traditions merged
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with the Spanish colonial influences.
The Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire brought European customs and a rigid
class structure, dramatically altering the lives of the native populations.
Amidst this cultural upheaval, the village of San Luis, situated along the Rio
de las Animas, became a focal point for a story that would echo through generations.
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Spooky. Definitely.
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She lived a life that would soon be overshadowed by tragedy.
Hi, Courtney. Hey, Courtney. Hey, Courtney.
So we have Maria, who is a beautiful woman living her best life, right?
And then shit hit the fan? Yeah. I mean, we can go into Maria's early life and her marriage.
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Pretty much, Maria was born. Of course a man is involved.
That makes a lot of sense. Okay. There was a lot involved with Maria.
So pretty much Maria was born into a humble family.
Characterized by their hard work and strong values, her exceptional beauty and
intelligence set her apart.
And her parents hoped for a prosperous future for her.
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Their hopes seemed fulfilled when Maria attracted the attention of Don Fernando,
a wealthy and influential landowner.
Don Fernando's status and resources made him one of the most sought-after bachelors in the region.
Their courtship was marked by a grand display of affection and opulence,
culminating in a lavish wedding that symbolized not only their personal union,
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but also the merging of social standing.
Maria and Don Fernando's marriage was celebrated with a great enthusiasm by the villagers.
Their new home, overlooking the Rio de los Animas, was a symbol of their success.
Success soon after they welcomed two children a
son and a daughter further cementing their
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status as a prosperous family okay so
big fancy man comes in swoos her or woos her they make some babies everything
seems to be going pretty okay maria seems happy but i i'm assuming that there is a twist to this story.
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There is. All right. Hmm. So what did the man do? Because clearly, what did the man do?
So despite their outward appearance of marital bliss, trouble brewed beneath the surface.
Don Fernando, once devoted and attentive, began to withdraw.
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His absence from home became more frequent, and whispers of his infidelity began to circulate.
Maria who had dedicated herself entirely to his family was initially in denial,
choosing to believe that the rumors were baseless.
The truth of Don Fernando's infidelity became undeniable when Maria discovered
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that her husband had taken a younger woman from a neighboring town as his lover.
This revelation was not only a personal betrayal, but also a profound societal humiliation.
Maria's sense of abandonment and shame was compounded by the judgments of her
community, which intensified her feelings of isolation and heartbreak.
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Well, of course she's heartbroken.
Of course, of course, it's the men.
Right, as a man, what do you have to say in defense of this?
What do you have to say for your gender? Really?
Well we can't automatically assume that every single man is the same in this,
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like that man was she was just living her best life taking care of him and he's
like if i'm bored and then goes out and finds another woman a younger woman
that is what we call trash Trash.
Trash. So my girl, she's heartbroken. She got two babies.
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The daddy don't want nothing to do with them. Mm-hmm.
So what happens?
This is just one side of the story that I've come across. Another side of the
story that I come across with this is that with Maria, she was born into a prominent family.
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She was born into a prominent family. And when the Spanish took over, that is when,
pretty much she was classified as lower class with the rest of the peasants of the time,
this Fernando guy was I mean we could classify him as a douche but at the same time you have
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a man of his class marrying off to a peasant female,
which, you know, hundreds of years ago, you know, if you're a man of high class,
you're supposed to marry a woman of high class.
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So it could have been that his family didn't approve of him marrying her and he was forced to,
be married into a woman of high class well i mean that's how the times were back then Right.
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However, as a female in 2024, if he was so concerned about the opinions of his
family, maybe he never should have married her and played with her heart in the first place.
Right, right. That's completely 100% honest.
My girl Maria, she's so heartbroken. This man's like, ooh, I want you.
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Just kidding. No, I don't.
And that's one of the other stories that I read up on was that,
yeah, he got with this woman, Maria.
They had a couple of kids. but eventually in order to keep his inheritance and
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keep his high class that was considered of,
he had to actually marry another woman of high class, high class to be able to keep all this stuff.
So it comes down to men and money. Pretty much makes sense.
Makes sense. so what is what is what does
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maria have to do with la llorona so we're
going to go into the emotional collapse of maria now as don fernando's reason
agree so as don fernando's relationship with his new lover became public knowledge
maria's life began to unravel the once A once happy home filled with the laughter of the children,
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the warmth of the familial love,
became a place of sorrow and neglect.
Emotional state deteriorated rapidly as she struggled to cope with her husband's
societal scorn that followed.
Her children, who had been the joy of her life, now suffered from her emotional
neglect. The household, which had once symbolized prosperity and happiness,
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was now marked by Maria's deepening grief.
The river, once a source of joy and reflection, became a symbol of her profound sorrow. Poor thing.
This is why you men don't be going out breaking girls' hearts.
That's all I'm saying. On the night of tragedy. one
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fateful night maria's anguish reacted
to its zenith the darkness of the
evening seemed to mirror her inner turmoil and
the river reflecting the moonlight took an ominous quality driven by a combination
of grief rage and a twisted sense of vengeance maria made her way to the riverbank
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with her children in a moment of tragic madness maria drowned her children in the the river.
The act was driven by an irrational mix of emotional turmoil and a misguided
desire to escape her pain.
When Maria realized the gravity of her actions, her grief turned into horror.
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Desperately, she threw herself into the river, hoping to retrieve her children,
but the river had already claimed them.
The tranquil waters had become a scene of irreversible loss.
Damn damn i mean let's
insist that man wasn't worth it he
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was not worth it but i mean there's
no there's no justification man breaks your heart you don't go and drop your
kids right it doesn't matter if he was prince charming his damn self okay but
like i get it that's shares the life that she shared with him they are a product
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of that relationship like i get that but come on girl,
yeah i mean honestly you know it's where exactly where was her support where
was her friends where was her family where was her village i mean we're talking
a few hundred years ago i'm sure it's hard
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to find support when you're dealing with stuff like that.
I mean, honestly, anyone that wants to affect the relationship that I'm in,
you're in, you don't have to subject the kids to the pain that you're feeling.
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Right. Like, I'm a firm believer. Like, you know, y'all have,
like, two people having issues.
Keep the kids out of it. But keep him out of it, you know?
Damien had a good question. He's like, why drown the kids? Was it to stop his legacy?
I mean, back then, would the legacy even be there?
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Because if he married and had kids out of his class, wouldn't they technically
be considered bastards? Technically?
Technically, they have any... but I mean you're also dealing with when you're
dealing with prominent situations of the classes that they dealt with back in the day,
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I guess you know I mean when you're when you're dealing with kids are probably
not going to be classified I mean they're going to be maybe if you have kids
with a lower person they're going to be classified
as lower class also right but
like if you if you think back to like say medieval
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times right king goes out you know does his thing with the servant has a kid
technically that kid still has a right to the throne technically so would it
work in the same the same way if it's like Like, out of class?
I would assume that it would work
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the same way. I think if the kid was the only heir to the throne, yes.
But if you have a kid with some woman of a higher class, obviously that kid's
going to be the first heir to the throne. Yeah.
Yeah, but how easy is it to go and kill that kid so you can get the throne if
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you're the bastard child? True.
It's true. It's true. But still,
that is not excusable of why this woman went and drowned her babies.
Like, well, take Christy.
She said it's hard to find support in 2024, but damn, I've experienced heartbreak,
and her kids are the reason she chooses to live.
You know? So, I would,
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in the case of Maria, you know her
man left her for a younger woman right it probably
upset the village the village probably there
there went her support system because you you said in
earlier that the village was super
happy they were super astounded and celebrated this
marriage right and when that
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happened did they blame maria for not keeping this
high class man in and
did they like i don't want to say banish her but did
they seclude her because of that but maybe
that's where her support system went maybe that's a reason that
she felt like there was no other way because i can't imagine a woman just being
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like damn my man left me let me go kill my kids like there's got to be more
to the story than that there's there's definitely some more of the story i i
have a discovery in the aftermath of the story.
So the following morning, the villagers were horrified to discover that Maria
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wandering the riverbank in a state of madness.
Her cries for her children, her
frantic gestures painted a picture of an unimaginable grief and despair.
The community already reeling from the news of Fernando's betrayal was now faced
with the horror of Maria's actions.
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Maria's death came soon after, marking the end of a life consumed by sorrow and guilt.
The river that had witnessed both her happiness and her greatest tragedy became
a symbol of her own tragic fate.
The story of Maria, now a ghostly figure known as La Llorona,
began to spread throughout the region.
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So how did Maria die? Did she die of her grief? Did she choose to end her life?
Not through sure not through sure because I know in one thing that I read it
said that when she drowned the kids she then realized her mistake and then you know ended her life,
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right in the same very moment,
yeah there's definitely multiple stories of it you know from realizing that she did wrong,
to stories of the religion that she believed in.
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Certain gods of religion telling her that hey, you did wrong and until you find
the spirits of your kids you can't cross over.
So is she forever stuck in that river?
It's not necessarily... I don't think it's necessarily the river.
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I know that there's a lot of reports of her possibly.
Being on the banks of certain rivers
there's been reports from mexico city
all the way up into louisiana of this
story and pretty much
what she's doing is she's looking for the spirits of her children because she
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is not allowed to cross over until she actually finds the spirits of them of
these children that she sacrificed.
So that's apparently what she's been doing for the last few hundred years is
finding her children to be able to cross over with them.
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How old were the kids? Did it say how old the kids were? They were very young.
I believe they were both under 10 years old.
Alright. Judging how under 10 that they If they're like six,
seven, they're smart, right?
Now, if you went to the water with your mom, who you trusted with every fiber
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of your being at that age, and your mom ended your life in a river,
why would you want to go back to that?
Right. So it seems if I was in that position if I was in that position and I.
Ascended into a ghostly spirit and I was like damn my mama just did me like that.
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I ain't gonna be going to find her. I'm gonna be running as far away from that crazy woman as I can.
So I if one were to believe that this,
legend is true then i would assume that la llorona would be stuck forever or
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it's one of her gods playing tricks on her and keeping the kid's spirit so then
she has to suffer for eternity,
Yeah, I mean, we don't know exactly what the gods have planned for everybody.
And that's how we got into the legend of La Llorona. You know,
the legend of La Llorona, or the Weeping Woman, as what La Llorona means,
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emerges as a powerful and haunting tale.
According to legend, Maria's spirit was doomed to wander the riverbanks in search
of her lost children. Her mournful cries of, or.
Became a chilling reminder of her unending grief and regret.
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La Llorona was said to appear in her bodies of water, especially at night.
Her ghostly figure, often described as wearing a tattered white dress,
was believed to be a special presence that struck fear in those who encountered her.
The legend became a cautionary tale for children, warning them to stay close
to home lest they be taken by the weeping specter,
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so you're saying that we need to plan a trip to mexico and look for a woman
in white yes mexico city all the way up to louisiana on bodies of water well
we can get to louisiana that's not that far.
Absolutely not. So pretty much if you go, this is, it's a big story told in Mexico.
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To, I guess to scare children into obedience with certain things.
You know, they, oh, you better get inside before La Llorona gets here. Right, right, right.
You know, they try to warn people of la llorona
is going to come to you if you know whether children
are sneaking out going the river beds
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you know just now let
me ask you this so when people encounter la llorona they just find her wailing
and asking for her children like is she antagonized at all like is there any
claims of Of her like lashing out or like, well,
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I don't know if you're driving your car down the road and all of a sudden there's
a woman in your backseat being like, where's my.
So there was one story I heard of a rebellious young Hispanic child who really
didn't obey her parents.
And one night she decided to act out made a room a mess you know just,
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being a rebellious child that she is at 10 years old as we all were right.
All of a sudden a spirit showed up and supposedly this was La Llorona and La
Llorona was trying to take her.
So what La Llorona tries to do is she tries to not only find her own children,
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but take other children as,
as a way to say, Hey, I found my child.
Here she is here he is you know let me cross over right,
so that never ends well,
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La Llorona came and tried
to take this child and what happened was
she screamed at the top of her lungs to where
her father finally came in and he
said you are not going to take
this one did she listen she did
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but apparently he had died in the process so
she actually ended up taking his life but didn't take a child and why so apparently
as a child growing up this father had a brother that that the whole that La
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Llorona also tried to take.
And as he was growing up, when La Llorona came into his house,
it was his, his mother, which was the girl's grandmother that actually dealt
with the same presence back in the day. Hmm.
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So Damien had a good point. He said, so the anchor for her husband was dealt out to the father.
So, do you know how the father, like, died? Did he just, like,
have a heart attack and just, like, fall over? Or...
Apparently, she just let out this weeping scream and he just keeled over and died.
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That's the only thing I could find him with this story. But again,
I mean, it's just a story. Is it true? I don't know.
Right. See, that's wild. wild so
like la llorona is constantly that and
that's why like hispanic parents around that area are always like hey you know
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if you don't do certain things la llorona is gonna come and get you because
i mean that's just a story that's
passed down is you know if you're not if you're You're not obedient.
La Llorona is going to come and get you.
I feel like instilling fear into your kids is not necessarily...
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It's not good.
So basically, La Llorona is the Mexican boogeyman.
They threaten their children to do certain things.
Or La Llorona is going to come and get you because the story of La Llorona is
always about that weeping woman who is looking for the children that she sacrificed
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so that she can cross over with them.
Again, I do not know what religion she followed.
However, trying to
one up and get one over on gods
is not gonna end well and
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i i would assume
that these spirits of these children that done nothing wrong have probably already
been crossed over and i think christy said it earlier that they are at peace
they are you know right i you know if they're going to to continue to,
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she's going to continue to try and trick the gods.
They're going to be like, okay, you're just going to be stuck right where you're at.
Nothing's going to change. You have to live with yourself. But still to the
fact that she is trying to steal children.
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That is terrible in itself. Terrible.
Hmm.
There isn't there um let me try to remember here there is a certain river that
they are all around that is she not a river a lake is it a lake,
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yes i don't remember i like seven pages of notes.
But still what would Damien say has there any reports missing children areas
that have been citing there has I think it's missing children,
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what's that like they're still missing kind of thing yes.
I think it's something that we probably post our Facebook that just to show,
some of the documented cases of this,
absolutely pretty much unsolved mysteries that is yeah i mean it's crazy but
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i'll get some lists with some stuff together tomorrow and i'll definitely post
to facebook so that's just that is just sad but is it but then again it is 2024
and the world isn't necessarily
the greatest so i
mean is it really law is it really
la la rona yarona that are taking
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these kids or is it that's something
that we don't know i mean we can also go back
to a story of the two girls
that were walking a lake back in 1977 and the next day one of the girls actually
ended up being found in the lake the shallow end of that and a lake that she's swam in before,
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which if you swam in it before you're in the shallow end how did you drown in this lake.
On top of that the night before she was found they saw a woman,
in white black hair black eyes and,
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weeping screaming so was it La Llorona or was it something else.
Was it something else or was it somebody else? Cause people,
humans are ridiculous sometimes,
you know, is there somebody who's just super familiar with the story and be
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like, Oh, if I just go and steal a kid from this area, they're just going to
think that it's just legend. So I'm going to get away with it. Right.
It's the way people think, which is even more shitty, even more crappy.
This is, so is there like a number of like, like, Like, how many kids go missing
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a year and it's chalked up to a possibly La Llorona?
Like, that's what I want to know. And that's, again, that is wild.
Wild. And Christy made a good point, too.
If the missing children aren't white, then we're probably not going to hear
about them. Which, again, is a very crappy thing.
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Very crappy thing. I will definitely have to do more research into,
the exact missing cases of La Llorona because I'm not finding an exact number
but I will definitely get that answer yeah Damien said they're not her children
so no matter how many children she takes it's never gonna work yeah but.
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If she died in such an emotional distraught,
mindset you know she's going to be stuck in that so she's the the ghost of maria
is not going to be thinking rationally is not going to be thinking like oh like
this probably isn't going to work,
she's going to be doing anything that she wants to do because i mean honestly
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her children could already be crossed over and she's just looking for ways to
get over there i don't think that way he's ever going to find her i don't think
she's ever going to find that way you know like Like her,
her curse is having to live in her own guilt. Right.
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Because, and again, I do not care how.
How heartbroken you are or how upset you are, what kind of mental break you're going through.
Like don't, don't leave the kids out of it.
Right. You know, if you are unable to care for your children,
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give them to somebody who can you know, at least until you get your ass better again, this was,
years, hundreds of years ago yeah,
I can only assume what times we're like by Ben or, you know, or crazy.
So crazy. I mean, I see that men haven't changed very much, so I'll give you that.
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It depends on how much you go to. I crack myself up.
Christie said the longer she stays here in her guilt and pain,
the more that will fester and grow and the more dangerous the entity could become. Right. So, right.
If one were to encounter La Llorona, what are they supposed to do?
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Just turn around and be like, hey, sorry, I don't have any kids over here.
Have a great night. What are you supposed to do?
Yeah, I mean, that's the big question. Is she just going after children to get
the children's spirits?
Or, you know, if a man goes up onto a river, is she taking revenge out on him just because he's a man?
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Well she did on the father on on the father of that boy or girl yeah but what
if that man didn't have any kids is she doing the same thing just to get revenge out on men,
now do you think let me ask you this do you think a trying to understand long
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your owner right do you think that she would respond differently if a woman
who had lost their child whether it
be from passing or miscarriage or whatever,
were to go and run into La Llorona, do you think that they would get a different response from her?
Maybe they would be able to connect a little bit. Possible.
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Maybe they would weep together. Maybe. I mean, I'm not going to be the one to
go up to somebody who just lost their child and be like, hey,
can you go try to talk to this ghost for me real quick for science?
But it's an interesting theory. Yeah.
Theory yeah i mean if she shows up i mean she might only show up in certain situations,
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it does and i'm gonna take i'm gonna take trisha's comment here and say that,
the first episode of supernatural which i love i have the anti-demon possession symbol right here.
Their adaption of la la rona was episode one and it was a woman in white on a bridge and,
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she would try to
basically seduce men like she would
be on the side of the road men would pull over in the car and
be like hey like you know she was super pretty be like hey like do you need
a ride home blah blah she's like take me home so she would get in the car and
be like oh take me home and come to find out they would go to get her to her
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house and they would get there and the she would be like i can never go home
and then she would kill them,
now or unalive them don't suck me i swear to goodness so okay we're on stream that story,
she she went and she drowned her kids in the bathtub because her husband was
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having an affair fair and she was so distraught and so emotional she drowned
her kids so the episode one season one of Supernatural the pilot episode is
a base is based off of the La Llorona story,
so I just want to point that out there because I love Supernatural love them so much.
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Which brings us into modern interpretations and legacy but I'll continue that
after you read Wade's comment
he said what i find so attractive about
your podcast you take your time and actually contemplate your thoughts online
during the show in the moment there is a blissful silence
as you think about the content and the response and your responses it's
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very rare to see so keep it up we love you appreciate it wade thank you so much
so it always makes a smile to our face when you jump on the tale of la llorona
has been adopted into various forms of media including literature film film, music, and theater,
each adaptation adds a new layer to the legend while preserving its essential
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elements of grief and remorse.
The story's enduring presence in popular culture underscores its deep resonance
with universal human experiences.
In contemporary settings, La Llorona continues to captivate audiences with her
haunting presence and tragic narrative.
Her tale is often used to explore themes of loss, redemption,
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and the impact of emotional and moral failures.
Through its various retellings, La Llorona remains a powerful symbol in the
endearing nature of grief and the search for forgiveness.
Think forgiveness is coming her way anytime soon i don't
think so i mean for what
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she has done that is very much an unforgivable act there
are many things in this world that can be forgiven i
think i'm with the majority of saying that that's something that you can't come
back from you can't be like oh hey i'm sorry i did that you can't come back
from that you just can't yeah Damien said that you're safe because you have
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no heart conditions so you're safe from La Llorona.
Perfect perfect Chrissy said she's so far gone at this point maybe a woman who
is scorned needs to be the one to listen to her or communicate with her time
to learn to meditate through this shit let's work through this together and
that's what I'm saying is maybe maybe somebody who another
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female who has experience with losing a child would be able to communicate with
her better than somebody like me who has no kids or Ray,
who also has no kids and he's a man, you know?
So like, I'm not going to go again, like I'm not going to go and ask a woman
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who has lost a child to go and talk to a ghost for me.
I'm just saying that that would be an interesting theory to try to investigate
on, you know, because we are paranormal investigators.
This is a spirit, a restless spirit.
So for research purposes, like I would be interested to see how that interaction
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would happen with somebody that knows her pain to an extent.
Yeah. There's a difference between.
Go ahead. Good. So there's a difference between losing your kid,
whether it be miscarriage, whether it be an illness, whether it be something
else, and then offing your own kids.
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It's a different kind of pain, but it's close enough to where it might get some good answers from.
Right maybe mom said that that's a great episode of supernatural not that you
would know so i haven't watched it's on my list yara has given me plenty of
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homework i have i really have,
dad's been on a hunting trip and he hasn't been home in a few days you should
know this when i say i lost my shoe you should know this when i say flight the
fairies you should know this Your dad better get some Get some good meat What?
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Who's been on a hunting trip? You said your dad's been on a hunting trip Please
send help Send help I was quoting Supernatural See?
Because I hadn't watched it I'm sorry.
Damien said so outdoor exorcism Is out of the question I
would say that For not watching Supernatural Not
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necessarily really out of the question still up
for debate for a lot you're on i would say it's out of
the question because she has been seen dami we're
gonna go we're going from down in coast city mexico all the way to louisiana
so unless you can enlighten me on how to exercise a spirit Spirit from hundreds
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of miles away or a radius of hundreds of miles.
How do you exercise that spirit? There's also videos all over YouTube TV shows
of a spirit all dressed in white, weeping sounds.
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Us out hit hit those arms up man let us know so what i would do the first thing
that i would do right is if i if my goal was to try to send to exercise this
spirit send this spirit off right,
first thing i would do is i would study sighting patterns
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is she going from here to
here to here to here or is it more of a line where
she's going so i would i would be making a map
of dates times time of year and go from as far back as i can to now because
maybe in the summertime she's in louisiana maybe in the wintertime she's down
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in mexico so but i would have seen what if she's seen at multiple locations,
at the same time. Is she?
I'm not sure, actually. I have to research that one.
I have to research the dates and times of the sightings.
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I know there was one particular sighting I seen where somebody had actually
got video of a woman in white in the middle of a,
I'm not sure if it was a highway or just a road where vehicles are traveling through.
But she's standing in the middle of the road and vehicles are driving through her.
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So, you know, is she just like, is she stuck to that location?
Is she just haunting that location?
What did that location look like hundreds of years ago?
Was there a river? That's the thing, too, is we have we have commercialized everything.
Nothing looks the same. It's so hard to.
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I guess tell everybody what everything looked like 300, 400, 500 years ago.
Right. But if you can collect all the data from where she was seeing dates,
times over collectively for the last.
However many years you can get maybe
just maybe you can map it
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and pinpoint a couple right be a couple steps ahead of there if there is a pattern
to it so that way you're you know on july 16th she's gonna be in mexico city
at this part of the river so then you can go there and then be prepared.
Right. But then the next question is, if this happened in Mexico during the
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Spanish conquest of the Aztecs, why is she in Louisiana?
I don't know. I would...
If it was reversed like if it happened around
louisiana and then down to mexico i
would my brain would think okay the river is
flowing south right so if
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you drown the kids in the river their bodies aren't aren't discovered the river
is going to keep taking it down as far as it can go right right yeah because
everything's going to flow south if you're north of the equator pretty Pretty
much a lot of the river is just full of South through a lot of these towns.
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Right. So I would assume like if it happened up, if it happened in the Louisiana
area, if that's where the original crime happened.
Her being seen down in Mexico city, wouldn't be super out of the round because
she's following the river,
trying to find the spirits of her kids because the river took the bodies and
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And the rivers are going to take the bodies until they get stuck or they go into, like Damien said,
go into underground caves or connections.
Yeah, it's something we'll have to look for. If it happened at certain lakes,
we'll have to definitely check if these lakes are connected from Mexico City
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all the way up into parts of Mexico, Louisiana, stuff like that.
Absolutely. Damien said it's going to cost your soul for the arms.
But I'm safe because I'm a ginger and have no soul. So free of charge.
Trisha asks, when did this happen? What time frame like year? The original.
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It's hard to say because there is mixed dates from 500 years ago all the way
to the 16th and 17th centuries.
We're talking about the Aztec. A long time ago. Yeah.
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But yeah like i said as far as trying to
catch this this spirit in the wild you would have to dedicate a lot of time
to research and seeing if you can get yourself a couple steps ahead of her if
there is no pattern to it and she is just wandering wherever her heart desires good luck,
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because i i don't know unless
you know you try using a kid to
entice her you know go to
one of the most frequent spots that she has and like and
just say you know hey i have this
kid that's really misbehaving like i heard you need one you can
have him but then you just have to make sure that you have protective
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measures to make sure that that child does not get
whisked away into of the river right what
which pretty much brings us into the conclusion of this
thing you know the legend of la llorona stands as a haunting testament to the
complexities of human emotion and the enduring nature of grief rooted in a rich
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cultural and historical tapestry of colonial mexico her story transcends time
and place evolving into a powerful symbol of sorrow and redemption,
Maria's tragic journey from a life marked by beauty and promise to one,
marred by betrayal and ultimate despair captures the universal times of love,
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loss, and the search for forgiveness.
La Llorona's spectral presence, forever wandering the riverbanks in search of
her lost children, embodies the consequences of unchecked emotions and the profound
impact of personal actions.
Her mournful cries serve as a chilling reminder
of the inescapable nature
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of guilt and a longing for absolution the
legend with its killing imagery and emotional depth has
been retold through generations adapting to various cultural contexts while
preserving its core messages in contemporary culture la llorona continues to
resonate with audiences reflecting universal fears and the enduring human struggle
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to reconcile with past action.
Her story remains a powerful network that engages with themes of maternal grief,
societal judgment, and the quest for redemption.
As both a contemporary tale and a point in exploration of human frailty,
La Llorona endures a compelling symbol of the complex interplay between personal
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tragedy and cultural memory.
And there you have it.
La Llorona It was so lovesick and heartbroken that she did the unthinkable, right?
Did her last resort and now she has to pay for that for the rest of eternity
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and there's tons of stories of other,
fathers mothers doing the same thing but it's just something that we'll never
understand of why they did it,
yeah I've heard a ton of stories before of mothers suffering from postpartum
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that That have drowned their kids in a bathtub.
It's something that we will. Just never understand.
Yeah. I will never get it.
It's. Terrible. But. We don't know what's going through their minds.
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Not that. We do not. But I do know. If I ever meet La Llorona.
That they have a few questions. Look at it.
I think I can live to tell the tale. Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Hopefully. As long as it's on camera, right?
Right. Hold the camera steady. That's our rules. Camera steady. It's the only rule.
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You can get punched in the face by Bigfoot as long as you got that camera steady.
Now, of course, I still have a couple questions.
We deal with the whole story of the weeping woman and people hearing these crazy
sounds of a weeping woman on the riverbanks.
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Is it really La Llorona? Or can we put this into scientific explanations for my skeptic brain?
Certain types of animals that are creating these weeping sounds on the riverbanks
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could be but would that explain the missing kids definitely wouldn't explain the missing kids.
If these kids are wandering around at night, exploring, trying to find La Llorona for their fun.
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I'm a very, I am a very firm believer when it comes to stories like this, right?
You, every kid grows up with their scary stories. The scary stories that their
parents tell them to, you know, mind their manners, be good.
It's a very cultural thing. yeah now over
the years those stories get added on to things get
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taken away and they become the stories that you and i hear but
i think there's a truth to everyone every story
has to come from somewhere right it's
just finding what part of that story is the truth and
that's something that we're never gonna know unless we find some way
to go back in time and witness it for ourselves right like
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i i can't explain how the
kids go missing but i can explain the whole weeping sounds you know there's
of course animals that sound like the weeping woman you know foxes screaming
in the night we we heard that ourselves when we were.
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Where were we at when we heard that?
Licking County? When we heard the crazy screams at Licking County outside?
We heard screams at Licking County. We heard that female scream in Pennhurst.
Yeah. And then being a deer hunter myself, we deal with if Fisher cat's where I'm at.
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I mean, I've showed you the sound of a Fisher cat.
When a Fisher cat, it's down. White Hill. Yeah. Um,
of the fisher cat when a fisher cat screams it sounds it sounds like a wailing
woman so a couple possibilities of sounds that the weeping woman could be.
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Brandy said maybe she's interdimensional too could be damien said wild boar i've never heard
a wild boar scream so i'll definitely have to look that up question for josh yes,
since he lives down in florida and i know they have wild boars,
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send him the link we'll ask yes i will ask him tomorrow morning absolutely but
like i said every story has some kind of truth to it, right?
We're not always going to know. Trisha said coyotes.
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We got Officer Christopher Jackson.
There's a lot of hearts in this. I think this is a love letter for you, right?
Or should I say sweet cheeks? I told you that I would tune in this evening.
You had my What the Bro, who the fuck are you?
Cheeks is you have to
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admire her right apparently we talk about how sweet cheeks is very like 20th
century like very early 2000s sweet cheeks and amber said huh she said huh you
get the the random crazies coming in,
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Send me your number Officer Christopher Jackson Sweet cheeks honey buns Motherfucker,
Damien says you're sugar daddy I'm the sugar daddy,
Well just Oh boy My head read this in a Mickey voice My head's Spinning right now.
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Trish said kiss and tell I can Kiss but I ain't got nothing to tell You ain't
got the time. You working all the time.
Mom said, Splendid, Daddy.
God. All right. Bye, Christy. See you, Christy.
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Wojo's jealous. You ain't giving Wojo no sugar? You want to talk about it?
Wojo getting all the sugar soon. You know.
Better watch out, Wojo.
Damien's booking for tomorrow night. Wait. Oh, there it is.
Officer Christopher Jackson, tomorrow night. Shit just got real podcast.
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So today, Ray, what are we talking about today?
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We are talking about a mysterious legend that dates back a few centuries,
back to the Hispanic times of the Aztecs, called La Llorona.
La Llorona. Is it La Rona?
La Llorona. Llorona.
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So the la, you have the first letter, the first word of la, and then Llorona sounds like the J.
There's no J. There isn't, but that's just how it is when you're speaking Spanish.
Languages are weird. Llorona.
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Llorona. I'm still going to say Llorona. oh
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Damien said, cool. I did wonder how to say that. Damien, I want to make sure
when I hear you in the chat tomorrow that you say, Llorona. Llorona.
I cannot. So, right. What is Llorona?
So, La Llorona.
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They named it that because what it means is the weeping woman.
And this takes us to a historical setting of colonial Mexico.
So I'm going to go back to the 16th and 17th centuries of Mexico with the Aztecs.
Mexico was a land of rich cultural confluence where indigenous traditions merged
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with the Spanish colonial influences.
The Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire brought European customs and a rigid
class structure, dramatically altering the lives of the native populations.
Amidst this cultural upheaval, the village of San Luis, situated along the Rio
de las Animas, became a focal point for a story that would echo through generations.
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Spooky. Definitely.
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She lived a life that would soon be overshadowed by tragedy.
Hi, Courtney. Hey, Courtney. Hey, Courtney.
So we have Maria, who is a beautiful woman living her best life, right?
And then shit hit the fan? Yeah. I mean, we can go into Maria's early life and her marriage.
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Pretty much, Maria was born. Of course a man is involved.
That makes a lot of sense. Okay. There was a lot involved with Maria.
So pretty much Maria was born into a humble family.
Characterized by their hard work and strong values, her exceptional beauty and
intelligence set her apart.
And her parents hoped for a prosperous future for her.
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Their hopes seemed fulfilled when Maria attracted the attention of Don Fernando,
a wealthy and influential landowner.
Don Fernando's status and resources made him one of the most sought-after bachelors in the region.
Their courtship was marked by a grand display of affection and opulence,
culminating in a lavish wedding that symbolized not only their personal union,
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but also the merging of social standing.
Maria and Don Fernando's marriage was celebrated with a great enthusiasm by the villagers.
Their new home, overlooking the Rio de los Animas, was a symbol of their success.
Success soon after they welcomed two children a
son and a daughter further cementing their
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status as a prosperous family okay so
big fancy man comes in swoos her or woos her they make some babies everything
seems to be going pretty okay maria seems happy but i i'm assuming that there is a twist to this story.
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There is. All right. Hmm. So what did the man do? Because clearly, what did the man do?
So despite their outward appearance of marital bliss, trouble brewed beneath the surface.
Don Fernando, once devoted and attentive, began to withdraw.
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His absence from home became more frequent, and whispers of his infidelity began to circulate.
Maria who had dedicated herself entirely to his family was initially in denial,
choosing to believe that the rumors were baseless.
The truth of Don Fernando's infidelity became undeniable when Maria discovered
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that her husband had taken a younger woman from a neighboring town as his lover.
This revelation was not only a personal betrayal, but also a profound societal humiliation.
Maria's sense of abandonment and shame was compounded by the judgments of her
community, which intensified her feelings of isolation and heartbreak.
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Well, of course she's heartbroken.
Of course, of course, it's the men.
Right, as a man, what do you have to say in defense of this?
What do you have to say for your gender? Really?
Well we can't automatically assume that every single man is the same in this,
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like that man was she was just living her best life taking care of him and he's
like if i'm bored and then goes out and finds another woman a younger woman
that is what we call trash Trash.
Trash. So my girl, she's heartbroken. She got two babies.
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The daddy don't want nothing to do with them. Mm-hmm.
So what happens?
This is just one side of the story that I've come across. Another side of the
story that I come across with this is that with Maria, she was born into a prominent family.
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She was born into a prominent family. And when the Spanish took over, that is when,
pretty much she was classified as lower class with the rest of the peasants of the time,
this Fernando guy was I mean we could classify him as a douche but at the same time you have
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a man of his class marrying off to a peasant female,
which, you know, hundreds of years ago, you know, if you're a man of high class,
you're supposed to marry a woman of high class.
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So it could have been that his family didn't approve of him marrying her and he was forced to,
be married into a woman of high class well i mean that's how the times were back then Right.
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However, as a female in 2024, if he was so concerned about the opinions of his
family, maybe he never should have married her and played with her heart in the first place.
Right, right. That's completely 100% honest.
My girl Maria, she's so heartbroken. This man's like, ooh, I want you.
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Just kidding. No, I don't.
And that's one of the other stories that I read up on was that,
yeah, he got with this woman, Maria.
They had a couple of kids. but eventually in order to keep his inheritance and
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keep his high class that was considered of,
he had to actually marry another woman of high class, high class to be able to keep all this stuff.
So it comes down to men and money. Pretty much makes sense.
Makes sense. so what is what is what does
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maria have to do with la llorona so we're
going to go into the emotional collapse of maria now as don fernando's reason
agree so as don fernando's relationship with his new lover became public knowledge
maria's life began to unravel the once A once happy home filled with the laughter of the children,
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the warmth of the familial love,
became a place of sorrow and neglect.
Emotional state deteriorated rapidly as she struggled to cope with her husband's
societal scorn that followed.
Her children, who had been the joy of her life, now suffered from her emotional
neglect. The household, which had once symbolized prosperity and happiness,
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was now marked by Maria's deepening grief.
The river, once a source of joy and reflection, became a symbol of her profound sorrow. Poor thing.
This is why you men don't be going out breaking girls' hearts.
That's all I'm saying. On the night of tragedy. one
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fateful night maria's anguish reacted
to its zenith the darkness of the
evening seemed to mirror her inner turmoil and
the river reflecting the moonlight took an ominous quality driven by a combination
of grief rage and a twisted sense of vengeance maria made her way to the riverbank
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with her children in a moment of tragic madness maria drowned her children in the the river.
The act was driven by an irrational mix of emotional turmoil and a misguided
desire to escape her pain.
When Maria realized the gravity of her actions, her grief turned into horror.
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Desperately, she threw herself into the river, hoping to retrieve her children,
but the river had already claimed them.
The tranquil waters had become a scene of irreversible loss.
Damn damn i mean let's
insist that man wasn't worth it he
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was not worth it but i mean there's
no there's no justification man breaks your heart you don't go and drop your
kids right it doesn't matter if he was prince charming his damn self okay but
like i get it that's shares the life that she shared with him they are a product
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of that relationship like i get that but come on girl,
yeah i mean honestly you know it's where exactly where was her support where
was her friends where was her family where was her village i mean we're talking
a few hundred years ago i'm sure it's hard
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to find support when you're dealing with stuff like that.
I mean, honestly, anyone that wants to affect the relationship that I'm in,
you're in, you don't have to subject the kids to the pain that you're feeling.
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Right. Like, I'm a firm believer. Like, you know, y'all have,
like, two people having issues.
Keep the kids out of it. But keep him out of it, you know?
Damien had a good question. He's like, why drown the kids? Was it to stop his legacy?
I mean, back then, would the legacy even be there?
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Because if he married and had kids out of his class, wouldn't they technically
be considered bastards? Technically?
Technically, they have any... but I mean you're also dealing with when you're
dealing with prominent situations of the classes that they dealt with back in the day,
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I guess you know I mean when you're when you're dealing with kids are probably
not going to be classified I mean they're going to be maybe if you have kids
with a lower person they're going to be classified
as lower class also right but
like if you if you think back to like say medieval
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times right king goes out you know does his thing with the servant has a kid
technically that kid still has a right to the throne technically so would it
work in the same the same way if it's like Like, out of class?
I would assume that it would work
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the same way. I think if the kid was the only heir to the throne, yes.
But if you have a kid with some woman of a higher class, obviously that kid's
going to be the first heir to the throne. Yeah.
Yeah, but how easy is it to go and kill that kid so you can get the throne if
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you're the bastard child? True.
It's true. It's true. But still,
that is not excusable of why this woman went and drowned her babies.
Like, well, take Christy.
She said it's hard to find support in 2024, but damn, I've experienced heartbreak,
and her kids are the reason she chooses to live.
You know? So, I would,
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in the case of Maria, you know her
man left her for a younger woman right it probably
upset the village the village probably there
there went her support system because you you said in
earlier that the village was super
happy they were super astounded and celebrated this
marriage right and when that
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happened did they blame maria for not keeping this
high class man in and
did they like i don't want to say banish her but did
they seclude her because of that but maybe
that's where her support system went maybe that's a reason that
she felt like there was no other way because i can't imagine a woman just being
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like damn my man left me let me go kill my kids like there's got to be more
to the story than that there's there's definitely some more of the story i i
have a discovery in the aftermath of the story.
So the following morning, the villagers were horrified to discover that Maria
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wandering the riverbank in a state of madness.
Her cries for her children, her
frantic gestures painted a picture of an unimaginable grief and despair.
The community already reeling from the news of Fernando's betrayal was now faced
with the horror of Maria's actions.
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Maria's death came soon after, marking the end of a life consumed by sorrow and guilt.
The river that had witnessed both her happiness and her greatest tragedy became
a symbol of her own tragic fate.
The story of Maria, now a ghostly figure known as La Llorona,
began to spread throughout the region.
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So how did Maria die? Did she die of her grief? Did she choose to end her life?
Not through sure not through sure because I know in one thing that I read it
said that when she drowned the kids she then realized her mistake and then you know ended her life,
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right in the same very moment,
yeah there's definitely multiple stories of it you know from realizing that she did wrong,
to stories of the religion that she believed in.
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Certain gods of religion telling her that hey, you did wrong and until you find
the spirits of your kids you can't cross over.
So is she forever stuck in that river?
It's not necessarily... I don't think it's necessarily the river.
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I know that there's a lot of reports of her possibly.
Being on the banks of certain rivers
there's been reports from mexico city
all the way up into louisiana of this
story and pretty much
what she's doing is she's looking for the spirits of her children because she
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is not allowed to cross over until she actually finds the spirits of them of
these children that she sacrificed.
So that's apparently what she's been doing for the last few hundred years is
finding her children to be able to cross over with them.
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How old were the kids? Did it say how old the kids were? They were very young.
I believe they were both under 10 years old.
Alright. Judging how under 10 that they If they're like six,
seven, they're smart, right?
Now, if you went to the water with your mom, who you trusted with every fiber
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of your being at that age, and your mom ended your life in a river,
why would you want to go back to that?
Right. So it seems if I was in that position if I was in that position and I.
Ascended into a ghostly spirit and I was like damn my mama just did me like that.
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I ain't gonna be going to find her. I'm gonna be running as far away from that crazy woman as I can.
So I if one were to believe that this,
legend is true then i would assume that la llorona would be stuck forever or
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it's one of her gods playing tricks on her and keeping the kid's spirit so then
she has to suffer for eternity,
Yeah, I mean, we don't know exactly what the gods have planned for everybody.
And that's how we got into the legend of La Llorona. You know,
the legend of La Llorona, or the Weeping Woman, as what La Llorona means,
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emerges as a powerful and haunting tale.
According to legend, Maria's spirit was doomed to wander the riverbanks in search
of her lost children. Her mournful cries of, or.
Became a chilling reminder of her unending grief and regret.
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La Llorona was said to appear in her bodies of water, especially at night.
Her ghostly figure, often described as wearing a tattered white dress,
was believed to be a special presence that struck fear in those who encountered her.
The legend became a cautionary tale for children, warning them to stay close
to home lest they be taken by the weeping specter,
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so you're saying that we need to plan a trip to mexico and look for a woman
in white yes mexico city all the way up to louisiana on bodies of water well
we can get to louisiana that's not that far.
Absolutely not. So pretty much if you go, this is, it's a big story told in Mexico.
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To, I guess to scare children into obedience with certain things.
You know, they, oh, you better get inside before La Llorona gets here. Right, right, right.
You know, they try to warn people of la llorona
is going to come to you if you know whether children
are sneaking out going the river beds
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you know just now let
me ask you this so when people encounter la llorona they just find her wailing
and asking for her children like is she antagonized at all like is there any
claims of Of her like lashing out or like, well,
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I don't know if you're driving your car down the road and all of a sudden there's
a woman in your backseat being like, where's my.
So there was one story I heard of a rebellious young Hispanic child who really
didn't obey her parents.
And one night she decided to act out made a room a mess you know just,
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being a rebellious child that she is at 10 years old as we all were right.
All of a sudden a spirit showed up and supposedly this was La Llorona and La
Llorona was trying to take her.
So what La Llorona tries to do is she tries to not only find her own children,
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but take other children as,
as a way to say, Hey, I found my child.
Here she is here he is you know let me cross over right,
so that never ends well,
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La Llorona came and tried
to take this child and what happened was
she screamed at the top of her lungs to where
her father finally came in and he
said you are not going to take
this one did she listen she did
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but apparently he had died in the process so
she actually ended up taking his life but didn't take a child and why so apparently
as a child growing up this father had a brother that that the whole that La
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Llorona also tried to take.
And as he was growing up, when La Llorona came into his house,
it was his, his mother, which was the girl's grandmother that actually dealt
with the same presence back in the day. Hmm.
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So Damien had a good point. He said, so the anchor for her husband was dealt out to the father.
So, do you know how the father, like, died? Did he just, like,
have a heart attack and just, like, fall over? Or...
Apparently, she just let out this weeping scream and he just keeled over and died.
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That's the only thing I could find him with this story. But again,
I mean, it's just a story. Is it true? I don't know.
Right. See, that's wild. wild so
like la llorona is constantly that and
that's why like hispanic parents around that area are always like hey you know
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if you don't do certain things la llorona is gonna come and get you because
i mean that's just a story that's
passed down is you know if you're not if you're You're not obedient.
La Llorona is going to come and get you.
I feel like instilling fear into your kids is not necessarily...
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It's not good.
So basically, La Llorona is the Mexican boogeyman.
They threaten their children to do certain things.
Or La Llorona is going to come and get you because the story of La Llorona is
always about that weeping woman who is looking for the children that she sacrificed
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so that she can cross over with them.
Again, I do not know what religion she followed.
However, trying to
one up and get one over on gods
is not gonna end well and
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i i would assume
that these spirits of these children that done nothing wrong have probably already
been crossed over and i think christy said it earlier that they are at peace
they are you know right i you know if they're going to to continue to,
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she's going to continue to try and trick the gods.
They're going to be like, okay, you're just going to be stuck right where you're at.
Nothing's going to change. You have to live with yourself. But still to the
fact that she is trying to steal children.
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That is terrible in itself. Terrible.
Hmm.
There isn't there um let me try to remember here there is a certain river that
they are all around that is she not a river a lake is it a lake,
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yes i don't remember i like seven pages of notes.
But still what would Damien say has there any reports missing children areas
that have been citing there has I think it's missing children,
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what's that like they're still missing kind of thing yes.
I think it's something that we probably post our Facebook that just to show,
some of the documented cases of this,
absolutely pretty much unsolved mysteries that is yeah i mean it's crazy but
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i'll get some lists with some stuff together tomorrow and i'll definitely post
to facebook so that's just that is just sad but is it but then again it is 2024
and the world isn't necessarily
the greatest so i
mean is it really law is it really
la la rona yarona that are taking
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these kids or is it that's something
that we don't know i mean we can also go back
to a story of the two girls
that were walking a lake back in 1977 and the next day one of the girls actually
ended up being found in the lake the shallow end of that and a lake that she's swam in before,
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which if you swam in it before you're in the shallow end how did you drown in this lake.
On top of that the night before she was found they saw a woman,
in white black hair black eyes and,
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weeping screaming so was it La Llorona or was it something else.
Was it something else or was it somebody else? Cause people,
humans are ridiculous sometimes,
you know, is there somebody who's just super familiar with the story and be
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like, Oh, if I just go and steal a kid from this area, they're just going to
think that it's just legend. So I'm going to get away with it. Right.
It's the way people think, which is even more shitty, even more crappy.
This is, so is there like a number of like, like, Like, how many kids go missing
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a year and it's chalked up to a possibly La Llorona?
Like, that's what I want to know. And that's, again, that is wild.
Wild. And Christy made a good point, too.
If the missing children aren't white, then we're probably not going to hear
about them. Which, again, is a very crappy thing.
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Very crappy thing. I will definitely have to do more research into,
the exact missing cases of La Llorona because I'm not finding an exact number
but I will definitely get that answer yeah Damien said they're not her children
so no matter how many children she takes it's never gonna work yeah but.
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If she died in such an emotional distraught,
mindset you know she's going to be stuck in that so she's the the ghost of maria
is not going to be thinking rationally is not going to be thinking like oh like
this probably isn't going to work,
she's going to be doing anything that she wants to do because i mean honestly
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her children could already be crossed over and she's just looking for ways to
get over there i don't think that way he's ever going to find her i don't think
she's ever going to find that way you know like Like her,
her curse is having to live in her own guilt. Right.
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Because, and again, I do not care how.
How heartbroken you are or how upset you are, what kind of mental break you're going through.
Like don't, don't leave the kids out of it.
Right. You know, if you are unable to care for your children,
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give them to somebody who can you know, at least until you get your ass better again, this was,
years, hundreds of years ago yeah,
I can only assume what times we're like by Ben or, you know, or crazy.
So crazy. I mean, I see that men haven't changed very much, so I'll give you that.
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It depends on how much you go to. I crack myself up.
Christie said the longer she stays here in her guilt and pain,
the more that will fester and grow and the more dangerous the entity could become. Right. So, right.
If one were to encounter La Llorona, what are they supposed to do?
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Just turn around and be like, hey, sorry, I don't have any kids over here.
Have a great night. What are you supposed to do?
Yeah, I mean, that's the big question. Is she just going after children to get
the children's spirits?
Or, you know, if a man goes up onto a river, is she taking revenge out on him just because he's a man?
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Well she did on the father on on the father of that boy or girl yeah but what
if that man didn't have any kids is she doing the same thing just to get revenge out on men,
now do you think let me ask you this do you think a trying to understand long
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your owner right do you think that she would respond differently if a woman
who had lost their child whether it
be from passing or miscarriage or whatever,
were to go and run into La Llorona, do you think that they would get a different response from her?
Maybe they would be able to connect a little bit. Possible.
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Maybe they would weep together. Maybe. I mean, I'm not going to be the one to
go up to somebody who just lost their child and be like, hey,
can you go try to talk to this ghost for me real quick for science?
But it's an interesting theory. Yeah.
Theory yeah i mean if she shows up i mean she might only show up in certain situations,
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it does and i'm gonna take i'm gonna take trisha's comment here and say that,
the first episode of supernatural which i love i have the anti-demon possession symbol right here.
Their adaption of la la rona was episode one and it was a woman in white on a bridge and,
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she would try to
basically seduce men like she would
be on the side of the road men would pull over in the car and
be like hey like you know she was super pretty be like hey like do you need
a ride home blah blah she's like take me home so she would get in the car and
be like oh take me home and come to find out they would go to get her to her
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house and they would get there and the she would be like i can never go home
and then she would kill them,
now or unalive them don't suck me i swear to goodness so okay we're on stream that story,
she she went and she drowned her kids in the bathtub because her husband was
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having an affair fair and she was so distraught and so emotional she drowned
her kids so the episode one season one of Supernatural the pilot episode is
a base is based off of the La Llorona story,
so I just want to point that out there because I love Supernatural love them so much.
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Which brings us into modern interpretations and legacy but I'll continue that
after you read Wade's comment
he said what i find so attractive about
your podcast you take your time and actually contemplate your thoughts online
during the show in the moment there is a blissful silence
as you think about the content and the response and your responses it's
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very rare to see so keep it up we love you appreciate it wade thank you so much
so it always makes a smile to our face when you jump on the tale of la llorona
has been adopted into various forms of media including literature film film, music, and theater,
each adaptation adds a new layer to the legend while preserving its essential
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elements of grief and remorse.
The story's enduring presence in popular culture underscores its deep resonance
with universal human experiences.
In contemporary settings, La Llorona continues to captivate audiences with her
haunting presence and tragic narrative.
Her tale is often used to explore themes of loss, redemption,
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and the impact of emotional and moral failures.
Through its various retellings, La Llorona remains a powerful symbol in the
endearing nature of grief and the search for forgiveness.
Think forgiveness is coming her way anytime soon i don't
think so i mean for what
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she has done that is very much an unforgivable act there
are many things in this world that can be forgiven i
think i'm with the majority of saying that that's something that you can't come
back from you can't be like oh hey i'm sorry i did that you can't come back
from that you just can't yeah Damien said that you're safe because you have
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no heart conditions so you're safe from La Llorona.
Perfect perfect Chrissy said she's so far gone at this point maybe a woman who
is scorned needs to be the one to listen to her or communicate with her time
to learn to meditate through this shit let's work through this together and
that's what I'm saying is maybe maybe somebody who another
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female who has experience with losing a child would be able to communicate with
her better than somebody like me who has no kids or Ray,
who also has no kids and he's a man, you know?
So like, I'm not going to go again, like I'm not going to go and ask a woman
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who has lost a child to go and talk to a ghost for me.
I'm just saying that that would be an interesting theory to try to investigate
on, you know, because we are paranormal investigators.
This is a spirit, a restless spirit.
So for research purposes, like I would be interested to see how that interaction
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would happen with somebody that knows her pain to an extent.
Yeah. There's a difference between.
Go ahead. Good. So there's a difference between losing your kid,
whether it be miscarriage, whether it be an illness, whether it be something
else, and then offing your own kids.
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It's a different kind of pain, but it's close enough to where it might get some good answers from.
Right maybe mom said that that's a great episode of supernatural not that you
would know so i haven't watched it's on my list yara has given me plenty of
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homework i have i really have,
dad's been on a hunting trip and he hasn't been home in a few days you should
know this when i say i lost my shoe you should know this when i say flight the
fairies you should know this Your dad better get some Get some good meat What?
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Who's been on a hunting trip? You said your dad's been on a hunting trip Please
send help Send help I was quoting Supernatural See?
Because I hadn't watched it I'm sorry.
Damien said so outdoor exorcism Is out of the question I
would say that For not watching Supernatural Not
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necessarily really out of the question still up
for debate for a lot you're on i would say it's out of
the question because she has been seen dami we're
gonna go we're going from down in coast city mexico all the way to louisiana
so unless you can enlighten me on how to exercise a spirit Spirit from hundreds
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of miles away or a radius of hundreds of miles.
How do you exercise that spirit? There's also videos all over YouTube TV shows
of a spirit all dressed in white, weeping sounds.
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Us out hit hit those arms up man let us know so what i would do the first thing
that i would do right is if i if my goal was to try to send to exercise this
spirit send this spirit off right,
first thing i would do is i would study sighting patterns
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is she going from here to
here to here to here or is it more of a line where
she's going so i would i would be making a map
of dates times time of year and go from as far back as i can to now because
maybe in the summertime she's in louisiana maybe in the wintertime she's down
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in mexico so but i would have seen what if she's seen at multiple locations,
at the same time. Is she?
I'm not sure, actually. I have to research that one.
I have to research the dates and times of the sightings.
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I know there was one particular sighting I seen where somebody had actually
got video of a woman in white in the middle of a,
I'm not sure if it was a highway or just a road where vehicles are traveling through.
But she's standing in the middle of the road and vehicles are driving through her.
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So, you know, is she just like, is she stuck to that location?
Is she just haunting that location?
What did that location look like hundreds of years ago?
Was there a river? That's the thing, too, is we have we have commercialized everything.
Nothing looks the same. It's so hard to.
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I guess tell everybody what everything looked like 300, 400, 500 years ago.
Right. But if you can collect all the data from where she was seeing dates,
times over collectively for the last.
However many years you can get maybe
just maybe you can map it
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and pinpoint a couple right be a couple steps ahead of there if there is a pattern
to it so that way you're you know on july 16th she's gonna be in mexico city
at this part of the river so then you can go there and then be prepared.
Right. But then the next question is, if this happened in Mexico during the
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Spanish conquest of the Aztecs, why is she in Louisiana?
I don't know. I would...
If it was reversed like if it happened around
louisiana and then down to mexico i
would my brain would think okay the river is
flowing south right so if
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you drown the kids in the river their bodies aren't aren't discovered the river
is going to keep taking it down as far as it can go right right yeah because
everything's going to flow south if you're north of the equator pretty Pretty
much a lot of the river is just full of South through a lot of these towns.
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Right. So I would assume like if it happened up, if it happened in the Louisiana
area, if that's where the original crime happened.
Her being seen down in Mexico city, wouldn't be super out of the round because
she's following the river,
trying to find the spirits of her kids because the river took the bodies and
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And the rivers are going to take the bodies until they get stuck or they go into, like Damien said,
go into underground caves or connections.
Yeah, it's something we'll have to look for. If it happened at certain lakes,
we'll have to definitely check if these lakes are connected from Mexico City
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all the way up into parts of Mexico, Louisiana, stuff like that.
Absolutely. Damien said it's going to cost your soul for the arms.
But I'm safe because I'm a ginger and have no soul. So free of charge.
Trisha asks, when did this happen? What time frame like year? The original.
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It's hard to say because there is mixed dates from 500 years ago all the way
to the 16th and 17th centuries.
We're talking about the Aztec. A long time ago. Yeah.
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But yeah like i said as far as trying to
catch this this spirit in the wild you would have to dedicate a lot of time
to research and seeing if you can get yourself a couple steps ahead of her if
there is no pattern to it and she is just wandering wherever her heart desires good luck,
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because i i don't know unless
you know you try using a kid to
entice her you know go to
one of the most frequent spots that she has and like and
just say you know hey i have this
kid that's really misbehaving like i heard you need one you can
have him but then you just have to make sure that you have protective
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measures to make sure that that child does not get
whisked away into of the river right what
which pretty much brings us into the conclusion of this
thing you know the legend of la llorona stands as a haunting testament to the
complexities of human emotion and the enduring nature of grief rooted in a rich
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cultural and historical tapestry of colonial mexico her story transcends time
and place evolving into a powerful symbol of sorrow and redemption,
Maria's tragic journey from a life marked by beauty and promise to one,
marred by betrayal and ultimate despair captures the universal times of love,
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loss, and the search for forgiveness.
La Llorona's spectral presence, forever wandering the riverbanks in search of
her lost children, embodies the consequences of unchecked emotions and the profound
impact of personal actions.
Her mournful cries serve as a chilling reminder
of the inescapable nature
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of guilt and a longing for absolution the
legend with its killing imagery and emotional depth has
been retold through generations adapting to various cultural contexts while
preserving its core messages in contemporary culture la llorona continues to
resonate with audiences reflecting universal fears and the enduring human struggle
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to reconcile with past action.
Her story remains a powerful network that engages with themes of maternal grief,
societal judgment, and the quest for redemption.
As both a contemporary tale and a point in exploration of human frailty,
La Llorona endures a compelling symbol of the complex interplay between personal
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tragedy and cultural memory.
And there you have it.
La Llorona It was so lovesick and heartbroken that she did the unthinkable, right?
Did her last resort and now she has to pay for that for the rest of eternity
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and there's tons of stories of other,
fathers mothers doing the same thing but it's just something that we'll never
understand of why they did it,
yeah I've heard a ton of stories before of mothers suffering from postpartum
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that That have drowned their kids in a bathtub.
It's something that we will. Just never understand.
Yeah. I will never get it.
It's. Terrible. But. We don't know what's going through their minds.
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Not that. We do not. But I do know. If I ever meet La Llorona.
That they have a few questions. Look at it.
I think I can live to tell the tale. Oh, yeah? Yeah.
Hopefully. As long as it's on camera, right?
Right. Hold the camera steady. That's our rules. Camera steady. It's the only rule.
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You can get punched in the face by Bigfoot as long as you got that camera steady.
Now, of course, I still have a couple questions.
We deal with the whole story of the weeping woman and people hearing these crazy
sounds of a weeping woman on the riverbanks.
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Is it really La Llorona? Or can we put this into scientific explanations for my skeptic brain?
Certain types of animals that are creating these weeping sounds on the riverbanks
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could be but would that explain the missing kids definitely wouldn't explain the missing kids.
If these kids are wandering around at night, exploring, trying to find La Llorona for their fun.
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I'm a very, I am a very firm believer when it comes to stories like this, right?
You, every kid grows up with their scary stories. The scary stories that their
parents tell them to, you know, mind their manners, be good.
It's a very cultural thing. yeah now over
the years those stories get added on to things get
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taken away and they become the stories that you and i hear but
i think there's a truth to everyone every story
has to come from somewhere right it's
just finding what part of that story is the truth and
that's something that we're never gonna know unless we find some way
to go back in time and witness it for ourselves right like
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i i can't explain how the
kids go missing but i can explain the whole weeping sounds you know there's
of course animals that sound like the weeping woman you know foxes screaming
in the night we we heard that ourselves when we were.
(57:29):
Where were we at when we heard that?
Licking County? When we heard the crazy screams at Licking County outside?
We heard screams at Licking County. We heard that female scream in Pennhurst.
Yeah. And then being a deer hunter myself, we deal with if Fisher cat's where I'm at.
(57:57):
I mean, I've showed you the sound of a Fisher cat.
When a Fisher cat, it's down. White Hill. Yeah. Um,
of the fisher cat when a fisher cat screams it sounds it sounds like a wailing
woman so a couple possibilities of sounds that the weeping woman could be.
(58:23):
Brandy said maybe she's interdimensional too could be damien said wild boar i've never heard
a wild boar scream so i'll definitely have to look that up question for josh yes,
since he lives down in florida and i know they have wild boars,
(58:45):
send him the link we'll ask yes i will ask him tomorrow morning absolutely but
like i said every story has some kind of truth to it, right?
We're not always going to know. Trisha said coyotes.
(59:05):
We got Officer Christopher Jackson.
There's a lot of hearts in this. I think this is a love letter for you, right?
Or should I say sweet cheeks? I told you that I would tune in this evening.
You had my What the Bro, who the fuck are you?
Cheeks is you have to
(59:25):
admire her right apparently we talk about how sweet cheeks is very like 20th
century like very early 2000s sweet cheeks and amber said huh she said huh you
get the the random crazies coming in,
(59:46):
Send me your number Officer Christopher Jackson Sweet cheeks honey buns Motherfucker,
Damien says you're sugar daddy I'm the sugar daddy,
Well just Oh boy My head read this in a Mickey voice My head's Spinning right now.
(01:00:08):
Trish said kiss and tell I can Kiss but I ain't got nothing to tell You ain't
got the time. You working all the time.
Mom said, Splendid, Daddy.
God. All right. Bye, Christy. See you, Christy.
(01:00:29):
Wojo's jealous. You ain't giving Wojo no sugar? You want to talk about it?
Wojo getting all the sugar soon. You know.
Better watch out, Wojo.
Damien's booking for tomorrow night. Wait. Oh, there it is.
Officer Christopher Jackson, tomorrow night. Shit just got real podcast.
(01:00:52):
Make sure you tune in. I will post a link Come on in let's see who you are There'll
be a bit Show yourself What speaking of In case He's back again,
Ray my vanilla cupcake What,
Wow I got so much to say But I'm gonna keep quiet Well You can tune in tomorrow
(01:01:17):
at 8pm I will provide the link so you can tune in and you can come show yourself.
Absolutely. Now, this is a great time to promote our new podcast.
So me, Ray, and our best buddy, Josh, aka The Animal, have started a brand new
podcast that's going to be airing on Wednesdays at 8 p.m.
(01:01:42):
Now, the whole theory behind this podcast is to allow a platform for people
to come out to hang out and just chill and relax.
So what's going to happen is on Wednesdays, about 15 or so minutes before eight o'clock,
(01:02:06):
Ray is going to post the StreamYard link to the Shit Just Got Real Facebook page.
So if you're not following them, that page, definitely go and do that.
And then once you do that, come on in.
You can come in and talk about your paranormal experiences.
(01:02:27):
You can talk about when you almost got, you saw Bigfoot.
If you're coming and having a conversation about how you had a really bad day
and you need us to make you laugh because we can deliver.
When the three of us get together, it is all hell's break loose.
And then you add in Richie and Wojo and Damien and then it's just six is not
(01:02:51):
a crowd, I'll tell you that much.
So again, Wednesdays, 8 o'clock.
Come in and see what we're doing.
Join the conversation. Hang out. Have fun. Pour a glass of wine.
If you haven't gotten your Your...
Special boxers yet what are you waiting for
(01:03:13):
you can go over to huntsandlegends.com and
it's going to be the very first thing on the merch
table or on the merch page so definitely grab those they're going to be a bestseller
bestseller but before ray loses his cool we are going to wrap up this podcast for tonight.
(01:03:39):
And I would like to say thank you everybody for tuning in and hanging out with
us on your Tuesday night.
We appreciate you so much.
We could be sitting here talking to ourselves, but it's not as fun.
And Ray and I genuinely enjoy coming out and hanging out with you guys every week.
(01:04:01):
We look forward to it all the time and bringing you the best content that we can give you.
So stay tuned. Next week, we have a very special guest from Paranormal Theory.
If you guys are familiar with who they are, they are working really,
really hard on their paranormal shenanigans.
(01:04:23):
They have some really great YouTube videos that they have dropped at Paranormal
Theory on YouTube. So check those out before next week's episode.
And you can find us right where you found on us today, seven o'clock on a Tuesday,
and we're going to have some fun.
Absolutely. So boxes are on their way. Andy, Andrew boxes are on their way.
(01:04:47):
I don't have your number. Send me your number.
Thanks everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you everybody.
We love you so much. And I hope you guys have a great rest of your week.
I hope to see all of you on tomorrow for Shit Just Got Real podcast.
(01:05:07):
It's going to be real chaotic, and we're going to love it. See you guys next week. Bye, guys.
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