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June 19, 2024 • 99 mins

Welcome to the latest episode of the Haunts and Legends podcast! Join hosts Ray and Sierra as they dive into the fascinating world of elementals. This episode explores the origins, categories, and significance of these mythic supernatural beings, with insightful discussions on gnomes, undines, sylphs, and salamanders.

We are thrilled to have Reverend Wild Bill as a special guest, bringing over 40 years of paranormal expertise to the table. Wild Bill shares captivating stories, delves into the intricacies of elementals, and offers a unique perspective on various paranormal phenomena. From the Cherokee beliefs to modern-day investigations, this episode is a treasure trove of knowledge and intriguing insights.

Don't miss this enlightening conversation that promises to expand your understanding of the paranormal world. Tune in next Tuesday at 7 p.m. Eastern for another thrilling episode of Haunts and Legends!

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Music.

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Music.
What's going on, everybody? Welcome to the Haunts and Legends podcast.
I am your host, Ray. And this is my host, Sierra.

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Hello. How's everybody doing today?
I'm great. Living my best life. Good. No complaints.
How's your week been since the last streamed live on Tuesday?
It's been pretty good. Been pretty eventful.
So, other than that, it's been pretty good. No complaints.

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How's your week, Ben? Just work. The thing that we have to do to make money.
Got to support the podcast somehow right now. That's true. That is true.
Maybe someday this podcast will support us.
Sort of. Look, it's my girl. It's my girl. It's my girl, Beth.

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Look at her. Hey, Jess. The bringer of snacks.
You may be the bringer of Swedish fish, but Jess beats you in all other aspects.
Does she beat my jerky moving on moving on exactly hi ember hello hi girl hey,
but your jerky is pretty good i'll give you that i'll give you that but that's

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all i'm gonna give you jerky and swedish fish just gets everything else i'll
see how it is keep it up and you'll be the next person that has playing cards
that's all i'm saying you wouldn't do such a thing.
No. I'll talk to you later, Jess.
You have to watch out. Make sure there's no embarrassing photos taken of me
now. Great. Yeah, you probably should watch out for that.

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Hello, Icy.
It's kind of waiting for everybody to kind of get in. Hey, Cheryl.
This is my sugar mama, Cheryl. I love her so much.
Keep them photos to yourself, Amber.
Listen, I might need some of them. Okay, I'm just saying I might need some of them.

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I have already have some photos. I can make a photo album.
Sure. She's got blackmail photos of me. I do. I do. I was there.
I was not in a good state of mind.
It was still funny. Hi, mom. Hey.

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Shadow Seekers. Hello. Hello, how be you on this fine evening?
What are we talking about today, Ray? So, last week we decided to put a poll
up for all of our fans on Facebook.
And I was really hoping for Mothman. Unfortunately, Mothman lost by one vote. It did.

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Because I could talk about Mothman all day. And we might be tapping into some
Mothman stuff next week.
But this week, we're going to talk about elementals.
Honestly, I don't know much about.
Did a little bit of research, so hopefully I have enough. This one might be

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a little shorter than usual.
We're just going with it. From all the stuff that we talk about,
if there is anybody who would love to be a guest on Elementals and help us to
dive more into this, because to be honest,
I found it kind of hard to find much information.
Just pretty much basic stuff. stuff we would

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definitely love to have somebody on to talk to us about this
absolutely you can come school
us on a topic that we know barely anything about
yeah it's like i said we know the basic stuff if you guys see me get anything
wrong just correct me no hard feelings because Because this is a learning curve

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for me with elementals. This is the Ray show.
It's all on you. A little bit.
It says they're working on their event in August. What event?
I like events. Do you like events, Ray? Love events. What kind of event?
Tell us more. We got a winky face.

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Oh, we got Damien in the house. Good morning, Damien.
Oh, I forget that it's early for him, isn't it? See, your mom's absolutely right.
This is the Ray Show. It's not about Mothman.
Next week will be the Ray Show again.
I'm not the one with a Mothman tattoo now, okay? That just goes to tell all

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of you how much Ray loves Mothman.
Because he has the best Mothman tattoo.
It is absolutely fantastic. If you check out our Facebook page,
you can see my Mothman tattoo.
I love it. The guy, Tyler, did a fantastic job on it.
Paranormal Rockdown. Edinburgh Manor. That sounds like it's in Scotland.

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Is it in Scotland? Do I have to go to Scotland in August now? Like, oh no.
Oh, we got Donna in the house. Hi, Donna. Hey, Donna.
Damien approves of the Mothman tattoo. Oh, Iowa. Damn. Sorry,
I don't know much about Iowa.

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Concert. three bands first night second night investigate with
the bands are they like how fun are
they like well-known bands are they
like iowa's not that far right
it's a little far is iowa where veliska is too i believe so i think i think

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veliska's not you know mom said it right another field trip oh no i don't i
don't think he does i see i don't think he does,
upcoming bands two are signed i guess it will depend on what kind of music it is,
for me it would depend on what kind of music it is yeah cheryl cheryl says it

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is that veliska is in iowa so we'll just have to you know see if we can go find
what's the cat's name what's cat's name egg roll egg roll we'll have to go find
egg roll and bring egg roll home.
Yeah, elementals. Hard rock. Hard rock. Perfect. Okay.

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I'm all for the hard rock. Might have to go on a field trip.
See, my mom said it's fine, right? So if mom says it's fine,
that means it's okay, right?
Sure. I like the logic. Just a little friendly loan from your mom,
I guess. Yeah, you can fund my trip.
Break into that, you know, family
fortune that you... Yeah, I'm definitely going to look into the info.

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Shadow Seekers. i'm definitely interested but anyways
elementals ray it's all you so elementals
like i said it's very new to me with the elementals i didn't find much in terms
of research it all pretty much led to the same things but for those who don't

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know an elemental mythic supernatural being that
is described in occult and alchemical works from around the time of the European Renaissance.
Particularly elaborated in 16th century works of Paracelsus.
And according to Paracelsus and his subsequent followers, there's four categories

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of elementals, which are your gnomes, your undines, sylphs, and salamanders.
I haven't seen anything on that, but I will look into it.
It now these correspond to the
four epto ependo clean
elements of antiquity antiquity it's not my words already which are earth water

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air and fire respectively terms employed for being associated with alchemical
elements vary by source and gloss i know those four things are considered
the building blocks of nature yep and there was i mean they make up four points
of the pentagram huh now i did

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watch a video about the fifth point of that pentagram also being the ether,
so that was another thing that i seen.
But i had no idea about that the that that the pentagram was all points of the elements,

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i didn't know that either i did not i mean i have a pentagram tattoo but you
know yeah but that's for supernatural come on now listen i love me some jensen ackles okay
who huh who jensen
ackles he plays dean on supernatural a show that i still have not watched yet

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unfortunately yeah i'll make it eventually you think you can manage to watch
15 seasons when i watch a show i binge watch,
I watched Fallout in one night.
That was one season and it's going like eight episodes. Yeah,

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right. Where'd you go? You're hiding.
Am I? I'm here.
Listen, if you have a supernatural party, I will sit and binge watch it again
for I don't even know how many times I've watched it.
Hello, Jerry. Hey, Jerry. But what else about Elementals? All right,

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so we'll go over some of the history.
The Periclesian concept of elementals draws from several much older traditions
of mythology and religion.
Common threads can be found in folklore, animism, and anthropomorphism.
Examples of creatures such as the pygmy were taken from Greek mythology.

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The elements of earth water air
and fire were classified as fundamental
building blocks of nature there you go the
system prevailed in the classical world and is high
and was highly influential in medieval natural philosophy although paracelsus

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uses these foundational popular pre-existing names of elemental creatures he
is doing so to present new ideas which expand on his own philosophical system.
The homonoc... I can't even say this word.
That's okay, we got it now. The homunculus is another example of a Paracelsian

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idea with roots in earlier alchemical, scientific, and folklore traditions.
That's interesting. Right. So people have believed in elementals for a long time.
Sounds like for a couple centuries. Hmm.
Still popular and you know today not as

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big but i think i think i show my age because
when i think of elementals i think of the last airbender avatar the
last airbender no comment i haven't seen
that either you're ridiculous i'll just
add it to the list i guess yeah so
what see damien knows what i'm talking about

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yeah i'm broken
you're broken i'm sure there's plenty of other good shows you probably have
never watched there is there's a lot of stuff i haven't watched there's a lot
of stuff i have watched so again elementals we've been around for a while what is what is the purpose,

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so i guess what we can do is we can go over paracelsus who came up with this
whole idea of the elementals,
steamed frozen,
from Atlanta listen at this point you should just bring Damien on that way he
can teach us both that's fine with me,

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we will bring anybody on who can actually teach us a lot better,
about elementals yeah because we're both kind of you know shadow seekers I was
really you know thinking about coming to that event but now I might have to second guess that,
just kidding but you should watch them they're both great.

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Yeah I've like I said I just know fire water air earth.
Damien said no no thanks bro you're on
your own we're gonna do our best so a
little about Paracelsus in his 16th century work
he wrote a book there's a book on nymphs

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sylphs pygmies and salamanders and on the other spirits Paracelsus identified
mythological beings as belonging to one of the four elements part of the part
of the philosophia magna this book The book was first printed in 1566 after Paracelsus' death.
He wrote the book to describe the creatures that are outside the cognizance

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of the light of nature, how they are to be understood, what marvelous works God has created.
It, he states that there is more bliss in describing these divine objects than
in describing fencing, court etiquette, cavalry, and otherworldly pursuits.
And the following is the archetypal beings for each of the four elements.

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So we have the gnome being of earth,
the undine being of water,
the sylph being of
air and the salamander being a fire now
in the little bit of reading i did i remember reading about how each element

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can move freely through that element mm-hmm right so you know a gnome is in
relation to the to the earth yeah the earth can or the
gnome can travel through earth just like you and I can travel through air that easily.
Same thing with the, the salamander through fire, stuff like that.

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But if it goes into a different element, then it's like game over. Like you're done.
Yeah. Like I can't survive. I do remember reading that.
And I mean, you look at a lot of things, you know, depicted with elements.
Take video games, for instance. You play a lot of video games and you always

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have those weaknesses that certain elements cannot take.
Yeah. Take Pokemon. Pokemon is a perfect example for that. Perfect example.
Again, showing my age.
Five elements theory. Everyone is everything in nature is made up of five elements.

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Space is space and element. I didn't read that. I'm not a hundred percent sure.
I know the video that I watched when I was trying to do some research in this,
I did see a video talking about the ether.
Okay. Now what's the ether? I don't know. I don't know either.

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Probably, you know, stuff like space. Everything else.
Okay. So, pretty similar to the space, I guess. Yeah. Red Bull is my ether.
Listen, ice coffee is mine.
I will survive on coffee till the day I die.

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Hmm. Your old Tim Hortons. I love me some Timmy Ho's. I really do. I really do.
That's what we call it up here. don't laugh see
we don't even have a tim hortons down here at duncan
and starbucks it's not as good as tim hortons

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it's not as good but maybe it's because i grew up on tim hortons yeah i mean
it was pretty good i i did enjoy it when i had it up there but i do i do like
me my um my white chocolate mocha from Starbucks.
Wawa listen i got i i'm

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in the area where i got sheets and that's it i ain't
got wawa i got royal farms well country fair doesn't count country fair is only
an only in thing there's a wawa in every corner of delaware can we talk about
wawa mac and cheese that is literally i love wawa mac and cheese i need them
to bring mac and beef back because that was absolutely slamming,

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do what mac and beef mac and beef yes so wawa if you're listening i miss mac and beef.
Please bring it back this man really thinks wawa
will be listening to haunt legends okay you should next time you go to wawa
drop a business card every time you go to wawa give one to the cashier eventually

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someone will tune in but okay can you send this to the ceo please these things
but yeah it was like it was beef with the mac and cheese i mean it was so good,
listen growing up and my mom can attest to this like growing up one of my favorite
meals was just regular craft macaroni and cheese with hamburger meat in it mac and meat mac and beef,

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mac and meat so i can't
say i've ever had it thomas bolger agrees
with me mac and beef was was awesome see you
had me until the hot sauce my stomach would literally kill me from the inside
out i can't i can't do that i can't do the spice holiday seasoned turkey sub

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seasonal but here's the thing is it a sub or is it a hoagie he did say he's
from florida what do they call it in florida,
no i'm asking you is it a is it a hoagie or is it a sub sub yeah that's what i call it,
but but you got you got donna hansen here that will die on the hill that it's a hoagie.

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Wild bill says he's an ordained spiritual priest i do i do love the pagan beliefs,
you know the pagan beliefs tie into like a lot of norse mythology and stuff
like that i don't like my viking stuff that's something we could definitely
talk about here is some pagan stuff.
That'd be pretty cool. This is kind of funny.

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Poultry Geist? See, I think we're kind of mixed in.
Florida Man says, hokey slash sub.
It doesn't matter what it's called, as long as it tastes good,
right? If you want to come in and school us, Wild Bill, on elementals,
by all means. We can send you the link.

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Are we talking like Middle Earth of Hobbitses? Because I believe that too.
I don't think that's what he's talking about. But it made my heart happy.
Eventually, we would love to have some guests on here. It's something we haven't done yet.
But definitely would love to have some guests on here to talk about anything.
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. As long as you don't call it a grinder.

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Yes. I heard that before. What? I think that's more of like they call it like
the northern east like main in that area.
This is the first time I've ever heard of it being called that.
So really? Yeah. Hi, Courtney.

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Hey, we're just we're just vibing at this point. race teaching us about elemental
would you consider a fairy and elemental I think I would when you go to like the self,
kind of like that there see what I want to picture when I hear yourself is I
like anime I watch Black Clover great show and there's some elemental stuff

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in there with the mages and,
one of the main characters has a spirit that is part of his spell book it's
a sylph it's it's it's a fairy,
so i guess it just depends on you know what you believe wild bill said a fairy

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is a little person of nature or a fairy like tinkerbell good old tinkerbell
fairies wear boots It's Bill says they're not elementals. Okay.
See, we learning things today.
That that's that's the thing too is there's really not a lot like a google search

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can tell you about elementals no it all pretty much leaned towards the same things,
i mean like the concept of a mentals it was conceived by paracelsus in the 16th century,
though he did not in fact use the term elemental or german equivalent he regarded
them not so much as spirits,

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but as beings between creatures and spirits generally being invisible to mankind,
but having physical and commonly humanoid bodies as well as eating,
sleeping, wearing clothes like humans, Paracelsus gave common names for the
elemental types as well as correct names.
Wild Bill's been in there in the paranormal field for over 40 years.

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Nice. If you are ever interested in coming on the podcast as a guest,
and telling us, I'm sure, the plenty of stories you have about the paranormal,
and whatever else, we would absolutely love to have you.
Absolutely. Absolutely. So you just let us know.
So elementals have been a thing since the 16th century. Mm-hmm. Hmm.

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I feel like it's not a very wide, like a wide, well-known topic.
Yeah. How do they form?
The one thing I read that said they are the building blocks of nature.
So I would assume that they would take form in whatever element they are.

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So if they're water, I'm assuming that their form would be that of a water form.
It would just be in the shape of whatever they want. Yeah.
That is not going to happen with us. We are very new and upcoming podcast.
So we would love, love to have you.
Absolutely. Get in touch with us. We'll, we'll schedule something. Yeah, absolutely.

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Damien said he's had an encounter, three encounters with an elemental.
Really? Hmm. Hmm. Yeah.
Bill said elementals have the power of their element, right? Yeah.
You know how cool it would be to be able to control an element.
It do you really know how many people i would throw a fireball at if i had the power to do so.

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That would be so cool that would be cool or if you like with earth i can control the vines.
And just you know have the
vines carry my enemies away that'd be cool that
would be cool if if you had if you had
to have an affinity for one of the
four elements which would you choose fire that was

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quick why fire i don't know i've just
always enjoyed fire see i
was gonna choose fire so you can't
choose fire unfortunately you can't
be the ginger snap and not have fire it doesn't you have to
have the fire i don't know i'd
like to think it's fire but i have no idea how do how does

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one know their elemental sign cheryl come
in and be charmed my mom will talk to you for hours about john guarantee she
was watching it every day i came home from school every day do you
feel that the cold spots that are felt during investigations are perhaps elementals
reaching through hmm never thought about that neither have i i always just assumed

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maybe it was a ghost but could it be it could be bill said he'd choose water i think i'm an earth
sign i think i'm an earth sign i think capricorn's earth i'm a taurus and i
have no idea what that is we'll just look it up real quick why not earth you're an earth.

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And i'm an earth so taurus virgo and capricorn are the three earth signs,
so there's there's so much i don't know neither one of us see i never really
got into like Like zodiac signs and the astral stuff.
Astrology? I never really got into it. I mean, I will sit and look at the stars

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all night, every night. But that's astronomy.
I know. I never really got into that, you know? Hey, Wade.
Hi, Wade. It's been a whole week. Yeah.
Say when red cardinals for example are used to convey a transition of spirit
that is part of elemental creations again i think it all does it all depends

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on how you translate it and how you know what you believe i know a lot of people
believe that if you know a loved one passes away,
you see a cardinal that's them kind of stopping by to say hi i
know like one of the craziest things that i've seen which one
of the things that i've seen which blew my mind was when

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my cousin passed away and i was out hunting something that he'd love to do with
me i had a hummingbird came up to me in the same woods that i've been hunting
in for six years and it's never happened before did it get like really close
really close checking me out and it then it just landed on a tree branch and just watched me.
Hmm. That's interesting.

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Wild Bill said the spirit bird is the crow. See, I prefer ravens. I prefer ravens.
But see, you know, if you guys want to talk about you know, Norse mythology
and stuff like that, love that shit. Love it.
I'll sit here and talk about One-Eyed Odin all day long.

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We can have an episode on that. We could.
Well, thank you. Thank you, Wade. Thanks, Wade. We are. We're kind of just,
we're just winging it tonight.
It's just okay. It's okay. Listen, now this boy got me talking about dragons.
You know how cool that would be? If dragons were real. Wyverns were real.

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You know, there's probably a world out there where dragons are real.
Might be. And I'm stuck on the one that makes me work 40 hours a week.
Like why why
bill said he's 82 percent cherokee his
grandmother was 100 percent cherokee and a
medicine woman that is interesting nice i

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would bill i would love to hear about like some legends that i'm sure you've
heard you know growing up like legends that just the cherokees that are are
like tied to them and the things that they believed i would find that very interesting,
very interesting tom said he

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truly believes that animals send messages across the veil they seem to be in
between living and dead and can't detect things and can detect things we can't
i believe that yeah i mean how many times have you heard about you know pets
cats dogs reacting to something in the house when we as humans can't see it.
I absolutely believe that they can detect that.

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I wish they existed now. I wish. Game of Thrones. Absolutely.
Have you seen that one, Ray?
I've watched the first season. And that's all. Go away.
You're banned. This is a Sierra podcast now. I'm kicking you out.
Damien's out of spirit. I'm going over.
No, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. I can't believe that. Wow. Just wow.

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It's no Supernatural, no Game of Thrones.
Like, all the good things.
You've heard of many and some that they don't speak of well the ones that you are able to tell,
i think ray and i would definitely be interested in hearing it and i'm sure a lot of the viewers,

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would be interested in hearing about those too see i'm very much the kind of
person like i will sit there and listen to somebody tell a story or multiple
stories for hours and be completely Completely content.
Completely content. Like, I love hearing people tell stories.
Oh, she's still talking about Charmed.

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Thomas said he's thoroughly enjoying the podcast. He's driving on his way home.
All right, well, drive safe.
Thanks for the support, Tom. Yes, absolutely.
Christian belief even tells of dragons when St. Michael killed the dragon,
but some say it was him sending Satan to the potomac's pit. Hmm.
Maybe again, it depends on what you believe. Yeah.

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Oh, she wasn't talking about charm. She was talking about game of Thrones. It's such a good show.
Where is the switchboard in the spiritual round that informs the Cardinals dragon
flies and animals to deliver spiritual messages from the paranormal world to
deliver messages of hope and worth.
It is called the divine being that we're all part of. Yeah. Yeah.

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I mean, getting a little personal, but when I think of my spirit animal, I think of a raven.
I think of how free and knowing a raven is.
And there's been a few times in my life where I have seen a raven.
And they're not always there, but sometimes it pops up when I need a little bit of a reminder.

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You know i think that
it's not there for just no reason like i don't believe in coincidences i really
don't so i absolutely believe that from whatever realm they come from that there's
a reason that they're there and during those times is when i kind of pay attention a little bit,

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yeah i i used to believe the coincidences but my beliefs a lot of time now you
know i just think I think the universe just does things that actually lead your
life into where you need it to go.
Yeah. Send him the link. He said he'll pop on to at least say hi. Sure. Come on in.

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But no, I'm kind of the same way. Like, you know, I have, I have my beliefs.
Like, I definitely think everything happens for a reason.
I think, I don't think that there is some greater plan out there.
Like, I don't think that there's somebody writing my, my history book.

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I don't think there's a book there that I need to follow rules. I need to follow.
I think that I, I.
When I need to, like, I am given the strength and the courage to do things how I need to do them.
You know, I'm not one that, you know, might get me some hate, but that's okay.

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Like, I'm not one that's going to fall to my knees and beg a man to save me.
You know, in my belief, you know, I call upon my people and I'm like,
hey, like, give me the strength to do this.
Give me the wisdom to get through this.
Like i'm not asking for somebody to fight my battles for me.

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I'm just help asking for the for the support Absolutely And that's just again
how I believe Everyone's entitled to their own belief.
I'm not going to judge anybody on their belief Just like I hope no one would
judge me for my belief but You know I think life is a series of,

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cause and effect You know Hello How's it going?
All right. And how are y'all doing? Good. Good. Hold on. Let me do something.
So there won't be no echo in the background. That should be better now.
Yeah. You sound great. Thank you. Thank you.

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So would you like to tell, tell everyone a little bit about yourself?
Well, a few people on y'all's network already knows me. A lot of people already
do. I go on a lot of different podcasts and stuff.
But I am Wild Bill, Reverend Wild Bill.
I am an ordained priest.

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I do a lot of stuff in the paranormal field. And on that note,
paranormal is a lot of different things.
A lot of people think paranormal is just about ghosts.
No, that's just a little bit the world of the paranormal. normal.
It can be everything from ET to Bigfoot to whatever, basically anything that's unknown.

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Absolutely. But I do, I put it like this.
I have my beliefs and I will say my beliefs, but there again,
I don't push my beliefs. Just how,
I just stake facts. You take it how you want it. I have some people,
you know, tell me I'm crazy as hell, which is fine.

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It's not the first time I've ever heard it. But my grandmother brought me up
believing in the other world, the spirit.
Everybody, well, except for my father, his father and his father and his father were all clergy.

(35:21):
Ministers, medicine men, I
mean, not medicine men, shamans, just depending on whether it goes black.
My grandfather was a minister of a priest.
He was actually a Christian minister.
His father before him was a form of a shaman.

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Okay. Before him and my grandmother, she was a very knowledgeable woman.
She was a medicine woman. I believe in holistic medicines way before I do big
pharma chemicals and stuff.
Absolutely. Because I've got things I can, you can tell me things.

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I can tell you things to go out and look in the woods and whatever to find that
will do you better than what chemicals will.
And you won't get hooked on them.
And I'll tell you right now, I am a big, firm believer in hemp.
I'll tell you that now, because simple reason I can explain this way is that,

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thanks to the military running marathons after I got out, I have two blondies.
The doctor, to give you a, for instance, on how bad they are,
he used to give me 70 oxys a month.
Wow. What I did is I went to CBD and THC. I don't do oxys.

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I keep them.
Us for bad, bad, bad days. Yeah. Don't do it.
But I was, like I said, I was raised that way, you know, more nature and using Mother Earth.
And like, oh, shoot, I'm sorry. My brain just went on a Bahama cruise and left me standing at the curb.

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I want to go to the Bahamas. I said, I want to go to the Bahamas.
I've never been on a break on many times, but I was left me here at the curb at the airport.
For it you know i just i've got to go yet but but he's talking about elementals it really depends,
like you were saying sierra that it depends on the basis what structure you're

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using to talk about right like in mine with the way i do it i believe in the
elementals and space Space is an elemental,
and it's sort of like ether type, sort of.
I put that in there, what the ether elemental was. It's more of a spiritual.

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And it can also be, if you look at it in some places you go to,
it will also tell you that it is like space, energy, vibrations, space.
Right. That's what it is. And then you've got your earth.
But when you're talking about which, you know, you've got all the different ones.
And depending on, like I said, which way you're going with it is to what some

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will do, because like a lot will not consider space as being an elemental. I do. But that's me.
And also another one, which I put in there, another elemental,
which a lot of people don't really mention.
But if you think about it, it is. And that is metal.
Metal is an elemental. Hmm.

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Of a metal. Do what? So what's the significance of a metal elemental?
I'd have to go look up in my notes exactly what it is. I'm one of these type
people, unless if I can actually tell you what it is and be able to back it up, I don't say it.
And when it comes to that one, it's...
I tell you what, hold on just a second. Okay. Not a problem. I tell you what I will do.

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I mean, since you asked and you want to know, okay
so you're the teacher here now so get
some of these comments comments real quick florida man says walkers are real
you have my attention you talk about skinwalkers it's it's like grades different
grades reagents grades and purities metals and metalloids industrial type stuff,

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that's your metal elemental.
Okay. According, and like I said, what does the metal elemental mean spiritually?
To let go of things that we don't need is what it is. It's for letting go of
things that you don't need.

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Okay. That's what it says. And that's what it said. And I'll be honest, I just read it.
I just write it for my notes and that's what it is.
About the elementals earlier, I picked up that one when I meant to pick up the
one about space, the one I think of.
But your main four, though, is your earth, water.

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Fire, and air, usually. With space, sometimes space is also air.
It's considered air, elemental.
And you were talking about how do the elementals do.
Elementals, again, Again, depending on what your belief you're working with,
your elementals are like a water elemental.

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They're going to present themselves. A lot of times they're going to present
themselves as human form, but can take on the form of their element.
Let me give you a good example. Here's a good example.
Have y'all seen the movie, you know, Riddick movies? Yes.
Yeah. That one where he goes against the necromancers. Mm-hmm.

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On there, they have an air element.
Okay. And she shows as a human, but when she moves, she becomes almost transparent,
like a wind, like air, and can float.
That would be like an air element. and a fire elemental would have the properties

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of being able to master the use of fire.
And it was really funny that both of y'all picked fire.
Why? I mean, it sounded like both of y'all picked it due to destruction.
That you would want to throw a fireball at somebody or you wouldn't want to do this.
Fire's kind of limited. It is. And you notice what I picked. You pick water.

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Do anything water can take the shape of any
object water can destroy it is
probably one of your biggest destruction elements is
water even the great
bruce lee even spoke of to be like water yep to move like water to flow to you

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know that's water your water element i would i say that i I personally say that
water element is probably the top one, one of the top notch ones.
Yeah. Because what y'all spoke of with fire, water can do.
Yeah. Believe me. I mean, for instance, if you want to look at an elemental
with water, look at tsunamis. I hate to say it, but look at the destruction powers they have.

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Yeah. That is water. It's an element.
And it can do more damage. I mean, fire can be contained.
Try to contain water. It really can't be done.
If it wants to, it will get rid of its containment. It will overflow it, whatever.
But fire, you put fire out. It's water.

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All you need to do is either add water or take away the oxygen.
Right, right. But you freeze fire? No, freeze water. Freeze water?
Yeah, okay. All right. Good luck on keeping it frozen.
What's going to happen when it unfreezes? Evaporation.

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Condensation. You're not evaporating in the ocean, though. Still, condensation.
You might evaporate it, but what happens when this... I mean,
the ocean gets evaporated every day.
What happens? It goes up. It comes right back. It comes back to us as rain.
Evaporation ain't going to work. because it will be it will return freezing

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it won't work because i mean i say to show that i mean we have the melting and
all that it comes back like i said,
I personally love water myself. I really do.
And even though I am a fireside, excuse me, I'm so sorry. I ate Chinese food. Now it's talking to me.

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I do love me some Chinese food. Oh, I just went to a Chinese.
I just got back from a Chinese buffet and I overdid myself.
One of those all-you-can-eat ones? One of the all-you-can-eat buffets? Buffet, buffet, right.
All-you-can-eat buffet. And they had the, this is a buffet that they have stuff

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on their buffet that most Chinese restaurants only serve as full meal.
Like happy family, stuff like that. They only serve as full meal.
They have this on their buffet.
It's the only buffet my wife likes to go to. It's the only Chinese restaurant
she likes to go to. She's, you know, I sold her on it. So it's fantastic.
And of course, when I go there, I get the, I get taken care of. Let's put it like that.

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We go there about probably about once but anyway that's getting somewhere else completely,
but but elementals yeah like i say because if you talk to people it just it
depends on areas they're from what beliefs they are because see when it comes
to like elementals fairies brownies trolls, gnomes, things like that.

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I get a lot of it from my friends and people that I work with over in the UK and Europe.
That's where I'm at. I guess I'm better known over there than I am over here.
I mean, I'm known over here in the US by a lot of different groups and stuff.
I used to be on teams, but I don't do the drama.

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I definitely feel you there. Right now, the only thing is that most paranormal
stuff is like they want a name. They want to be it.
They want to be the next Ghost Hunters. Me, I could care less if anybody even knows my name.
Right. But the problem is they do, is the problem.
But I've had teams, and now I don't have teams no more because,

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like I said, I'm just not going to do the drama and the backstabbing and the ego stuff. up.
So what I do now is I go out, but I'm invited by different groups.
They will invite me out, especially if they have a certain place they're going
to that they might need assistance because I have also got, I'm certified in exorcisms.

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I
I physically, I mean, health wise and stuff, I can't do it.
So what I do now is I am an investigator of it.
I go and I go and research it to see whether or not is this something that could
be or do they need to go see a doctor and different stuff like that.

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And then if it is shown that it could be a nasty and needs to be gotten rid
of, I can assist and witness and help a little bit.
But as far as doing it, I can't do it no more.
My health won't allow it. I think a lot of, I don't want to say a lot of times

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because I don't want to be naive enough to think that there isn't evil things out there.
But as long as you don't listen to Zach Baggins, you're okay.
Right. Right. But go ahead, Sarah. You were saying and I interrupted. Go ahead.
That's okay. I think people often confuse mental illness with demon possession.

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Okay. Yeah. I'm going to agree with that because that's the reason why you have
to have people like me and better than me. I will say that.
I'm not no great person.
I mean, I'm just me. I know what I know. That's it.
And I'll use what I know. And that's it. As far as saying I'm the best, no, I'm far from it.

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Something new every day. A matter of fact, that's my goal is to learn something new every day.
As long as I keep doing that, I know the mind is still working because I'm 60, I'm 69 years old.
We'll be turning 70 years old this year.
And I just, I just like to continue learning.

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I like to, I like to keep my IQ up there above 90.
They say knowledge is power it is it really is and uh matter of fact the power power,
now am i saying trilateral am i saying the luminati no not really they're out

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there but matter of fact i've been i was approached by them really and then
i told them one thing and And they haven't bothered me since.
And because a lot of people, well, I'll put it like this. I'm a Mason. I am a master Mason.
Okay. A lot of people think that the Masons is the Illuminati. They're not.

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I mean, I could tell you a lot of stuff about the Masons, but afterwards I'd have to kill you.
Well, we'll hold back on that then. I mean, there's a lot of stuff I can't tell
you too, though, about the Masons. I mean, it's not really no secret organization.
Everybody knows about us.
Everybody knows about us, you know? Yes, we do use the Bible, you know? We do. Yep.

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But the Masons basically, do you know basically, do y'all know where the Masons
basically came from, originally came from?
Are they associated with religions even, if you want to say that?
I'm probably wrong. I'm going to put that out there first.
But the only thing I know about the Masons, I used to watch a show on TV called The Curse of Oak Island.

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And the Masons had a tie to like the Templar Knights and all that kind of stuff.
So I just want to say that's how I know about it. Okay.
Masons, you hear about the Masons from King Solomon.
Matter of fact, the King Solomon's Temple, I'll tell you this,
King Solomon's Temple was built.

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By the masons, by the master mason.
At that temple was formed and made outside of the temple and then taken in.
There was never the sound of a mallet or anything heard inside that temple. Nothing.

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It was all done outside. It was done that precision. And it was done by Master Masons.
Now, what happened later on, on Friday the 13th, thanks to the Pope,
The Templars had to go underground.
The Masons took the Templars in. They became part of the Mace.

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We do have a certain level in the Masons called the Knights Templar.
There are the rights of the Knights Templar. See, I was kind of right.
The insignia for that level is the Templar cross.
If you know what that is the red cross that is that's the sign for one of the

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signs of the templar level but
yeah yeah but the templars are in there but they they they were taken by.
The masons masons hit them let's put it like that the masons hit them to keep
them away from the pope and you know the reason why that all happened i mean
a lot of people you know think Think about Friday the 13th.

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But Friday the 13th, though, that was the deal was when the Pope put out the
decree for all the Templars to be rounded up and killed. That was on Friday the 13th.
But you know why that was done, don't you?
The Pope at the time basically wanted to be the head leader of the world, be new world order.

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And he was threatened by the Templars because as far as people were concerned, they had more power.
People believed in them more than they did the Pope.
And the Pope felt threatened by the Templars. So he had them gotten rid of because,

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of course, you know, the Templars were the first ones to basically have an organized bank for money.
They were the originators of the banking
system because that was one of their jobs was
to hold the gold and stuff of people to
keep it safe from being robbed and stuff and if you needed it you'd go to them

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and they'd do it plus also too the Templars were also they helped guard the
people and take do security basically along the roads and stuff to protect people
the Knights Templar was a very very Wow.
Organization because of it. But the thing is, is that originally they were the Christian.

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What am I trying to say? They're not law enforcement. They were the protectors
and stuff of the Christian religion.
They were religious. They were all religious. They were clergy,
but they were battle-trained clergy, was what the Templars were.
And you know that's that was basically it and then
back to what i was going to say though about you came back to elementals depending

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on like who all you talk to like i said it really depends because like the fae
the fairies the brownies and stuff you were talking about possibly being elementals
those aren't elementals now they are nature they are creatures of nature,
but as far as being an elemental no they're not but they are like a fairy and fairies are very

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mean by the way oh very nasty they're not as nice as tinkerbell about like a
they're about like a sprite the
sprite's the same way yes you know they're they're very very mischievous,
and they're pranksters.

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And then you've got all your different other little ones, too.
And we've talked about some of them, I say, come from Middle Earth.
You were talking about Middle Earth.
Hobbits? Okay, you've been watching too many movies, Daryl.
Listen, I love Lord of the Rings. It is my favorite movie of all time.
I love it, too. I love it, too. Don't get me wrong.

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When you said Middle Earth, that's exactly where my brain went to.
Well, there are people that live in Middle Earth.
They're not hobbits. I mean, they might be small people and stuff,
but the War Hobbit and that, that's Tolkien and Lord of the Rings type stuff.
But no, there are, because for instance, I mentioned the Anasazis.
They're Native Americans.

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I hate this politically correct stuff. Indigenous Native Americans.
They were the Anasazis. But I am Cherokee.
Okay. I'm not going to say I'm Native American, you know.
Because this place wasn't America until some dumbass named Christopher Columbus
came over here. Yeah. And now he called us Indians because he thought we was in India.

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You know, because that's how the Native Americans got their name of Indians.
Right. And you know what's so funny about it? Christopher Columbus never landed
on the main continent of America.
He was on an island out near the Bahamas.
That's where he was. And there again, people say, well, he found it.
I mean, he didn't find nothing. And when you're going from Europe across the

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Atlantic, it's kind of hard to miss the North American continent or the South
American continent because they're both detached.
It's somewhere he's going to run into land.
Dumbass. Even his own country wouldn't give him the money to come over here.
He had to go to a different country to get fundings to come over here.

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And then it was also proven too now because the U.S. history books I'll tell
you right now boys and girls take your U.S. history books throw them in the
trash can because you know,
is a bunch of hootie. Because Leif Erikson was here before Christopher Columbus was ever here.

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And he discovered more of North America than Christopher Columbus and his conquistadors
ever thought about doing.
Because Leif Erikson landed on the West Coast and has shown proof that he was on the East Coast.
That his men were on the East Coast. So in order to do that,
he had to go from this side to that side.
So he has been across America, a lot more of the continent, a lot more than

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what Chris Flinders did.
Yeah. Yep. I get into it.
And also, too, I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, my mind goes from one thing
to another. It goes on different tangents.
You are all good. Have fun. I'm trying to keep up with me. If I lose you,
just stop. You tell me. It's like, back up just a moment.
What about this? But anyway, the Anasazi's is where we were at.

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There was a group of indigenous, we'll say that, out in the Midwest called the Anasazis.
You can go out there now, in this day out in Arizona and stuff,
and you can see where they lived.
And these are ones where they lived and they had their houses in the side of the cliffs and stuff.

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They had these ceremonial, as they called them, ceremonial pits.
You'd see these round pits dug in the ground.
And then in the center of that pit, there would be a hole.
And a lot of times they've checked them and basically they're bottomless.
They try to check, find the bottom and they can't find it. It just keeps going.
Okay. The, the,

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on the top side. All of a sudden, one day, and this is like the difference between today and tomorrow.
They were here. Now they're gone.
All traces of them were gone, except for the buildings and the pits.
Other than that, pottery, everything else, gone.
And nobody could ever figure out what happened.

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Later on, it was said through word of mouth from the different tribes that what
it was is that the Anasazis,
originally came from Middle Earth because of the tyranny and stuff that was down there.
Because you're going to have good and bad no matter where you go. Absolutely.

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So they said, okay, fine. So they came to the topside.
They came to topside. And they lived here for a long, long time.
So they decided, yeah, Anasazi, yeah, there's a lot of stuff. But anyways, they left.
They came to the top side and they were living here and everything.

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And then when the white man came doing his thing of making pillaging,
they said, hell with this idea. We're going back because it was not as bad as what this place is.
So they left and went back to Middle Earth.
And that's basically the story of the Anasazis.
Now, you also hear about, talking about Middle Earth, you hear about that big

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opening in Antarctica, the one that Admiral Byrne.
Anyway, one went down into the pit. And basically, that is an opening going into Middle Earth.
And there's also one that matches it. There's also one in the North Pole also. One at either end.

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Plus, many... And this is the reason why I feel like... Because I believe in
Bigfoot. Don't get me wrong.
But this is the reason why people cannot really find Bigfoot.
Because there's also caves. Because if you look at amount of cave systems,
basically the whole world is connected by caves.

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It can be reached by different caves.
Some of these caves are actually entrances into the earth.
And that's where basically Bigfoot resides.
And the Yeti, because basically the Yeti is a polar Bigfoot.

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Is a product of snow. So that's the reason why the Yeti's white.
You've got a Bigfoot up in Washington, Oregon. They're brown.
You've got the swamp monster down here in the southeast, which is a skunk ape,
which is a Yeti, I mean, which is a Bigfoot that lives in a swamp.
You know, they are a product of their environment. That's the reason why.

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Basically, they are all Bigfoots.
They're just different because of the environment that they're in.
Now do you think all cryptids come
from middle earth like if we talk about oh no
no i think there might be some that actually come from dimensional also because

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if you and then also so also i believe come from another planet because that's
uh i mean i'll put this out
there real quick i i am a person in my belief i believe in the higher power.
Down here where i live bad we're part of the bible belt down here everybody

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down here calls them god okay i'll call them god and for the sake of argument
for most people down here because,
one of my favorite sayings is you can't fix stupid.
And now here in necessary where I'm at on certain subjects, it's eat up with

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stupid. I really don't mind that.
Religion, unless it was brought up, particular ones, but when they are brought
up, I love it because I can show them things that kind of blows things away,
even in their own book, I can blow them away.
And because I don't know whether y'all consider yourself Christian,

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agnostic, whatever, I tell people, I don't care, as long as it does you good,
that's all that matters.
And that's how that's how everyone in the world
should feel like and they shouldn't force
their belief down your throat right and
i hate to say it there's one religion which is
one of the newest religions that does that as a practice and that's called the

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christian belief they try to does the other religions do that not really not
i mean about the only other one i can really see is that back when I was growing up,
back in the 60s and 70s, these bald-headed people with the ponytails coming off the back,
ringing bells, dancing around airports, going, Krishna, Krishna,

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Krishna, Hare Krishna, and ding, ding, ding, ding.
Have you read this, brother? Can you pour some money? Can you give us some money?
Krishna, but they weren't forcing it down your throat.
Then you get the other ones.
God bless their pointed little heads that Joe will witness. God love them.
I mean, you got to love the guys.
I mean, to go door to door.

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And with them, I love them because they'll always come to my door and they go,
can we tell you about our God?
Sure, if I can tell you about mine.
And then they come in and they'll start.
I'll tell them mine real quick. Then they're walking out the door.
They can't handle somebody who thinks differently.

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And to be honest i i'm not
thinking differently i think on the same line that they do
i just it's just a different entity is
what it is right i mean i believe that i believe that well the human race itself
like i tell people i think the human race itself was a science experiment science

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fair experiment by some young alien that got a c-plus on it he put us up on his,
bookshelf in his room and now we just sit there
and we're like a giant ant farm and and then we're an experiment that went terribly
wrong because if you think about it what other animal on this beautiful planet

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kills just for the hell of it what.
On this planet, destroys the planet and doesn't try to repair it other than man.
The human race basically is a cancer.
And I think, like I said, I think that we're just an experiment gone completely wrong.

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I do believe that we are visited by other aliens, and I do believe that they walk among us also.
Up there again in my upbringing we are brought up to believe of the star child star people.
And due to my dna and stuff i'm considered as a star seed because i have the

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as they call it even in the medical field i have what is called the alien gene
in me my blood type is ab negative,
very rare blood type and there's not that many there's not a lot of people with
AP negative blood and anybody with the AP negative blood has got what they call
the alien gene and with the alien gene,

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with the alien gene they have said that people say well if you've got the alien
gene you're a starseed okay fine I'm a starseed whatever that is I don't claim
it I don't really I'm not really familiar with starseeds.
All I know is that there's supposed to be a life form that is in touch and has
links to extraterrestrial, another planet, another world, let's just say.

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And that's what they are. And that they sometimes will have powers that others don't have.
There again, on that note, I believe we are all born with the powers.
We lose them. because that's the reason why children can see and hear things
and stuff that adults can't because they're still young. Their third eye is still open.

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Then we start listening to people. Oh, that's stupid. You're crazy. That can't happen.
So at that point, you shut it down and you don't do it. You can reopen it,
though, but it takes a lot of training to do.
Now, many people tell me, oh, you're crazy. Let's tell them thank you.
I tell them, thank you. I work hard at it. I'm proud of it. Yes,

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if you want to call me crazy, I'm crazy. That's fine with me. I don't mind.
But there again, I've got just as many people who will also say that I'm not crazy.
Actually i'm more intelligent than people would think i am and i was like okay
whatever but like i tell people i'm a jack of all trades and a master of none,

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can i get my feet i got my feet wet and a little bit of everything i love it
but that's part of warning that's part of warning so you know like i said when
it comes to the religion i mean Let me ask you a question. I want to ask you a question.
It has to do with the Christian belief. Okay, I'll tell you that.

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Who was the first female?
If you're going by Christian belief. It wasn't the first female.
It was Eve. Wrong.
Next contestant, please. Ray, who do you say?
And it came from this too, Sierra. That's the reason why I say wrong next contest. Okay.
Let me tell you who it was. Sure. The first female in the Christian belief from God was Lilith.

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Lilith was the first female with Adam.
Now, why did Eve come along? Why did Eve come along, Sierra?
I don't know. Eve was the second woman. it he came along because lilith told
god i will not be subservient to adam i am his equal,

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i will not be behind him i will not cower to him i am equal to him she was your
first women's liver actually so god said fine you want to be this way i kick
you out of eden all your children Everyone will be born dead.
You'll be the concubine of Satan. Okay, fine.

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That's how that all came along. But that is very well described in one of the
lost books of the Bible, which is called the Book of Lilith.
And it's just like check it out learn something check it out it's just like

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with aliens people talk about aliens,
Enoch tells you all about aliens matter of fact Enoch was taken to another universe
to another planet and lived there for hundreds of years and then was brought
back to earth and he described what happened
and the fantastic machines that took him there and stuff. And that was in the book of Enoch.

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But check out the lost books of the Bible, because you got to think about the
Bible was written by four men. OK, basically four men.
Now, the Bible was not written until 400 years after Jesus died.
Yep. Well, why did this is hearsay? And we know what hearsay does.

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It's like a game of telephone.
It's like a game of telephone. It embellishes stuff because the stuff that people
say is miracles that was done has been done by magicians.
Turning water into wine, that's done by magicians. They might turn it into beer,

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champagne, but it's turned from water into taking this and turning it into food.
Taking something and turning it into food, that's been done.
The deal of walking on the water where Jesus was talked about walking on the
water, he only did it once, one time, but yet Jesus walked on water.
It was done in the Sea of Galilee.
And on Google Earth to this day, you can check it at low tide.

(01:11:42):
There is a sandbar that goes from one side to the other side.
You can walk all the way across from one shore to the other shore of Galilee,
in the Sea of Galilee, and only get as much as your ankles wet.
But yet, there can be a big sailing ship, fishing ship on one side of you in
deep water and one on the other side of you in deep water.

(01:12:04):
And people thought he was walking on water. You know, okay, fine, whatever.
And then, like I said, I can, I mean, like, like I said, the deal about when
somebody who's so passionate about Christianity and everything.
And you ask them about, do you believe in UFOs and aliens? No.
Well, what about the Bible? It tells you of them and explain.

(01:12:29):
There was chariots with wheels of fire flying through the sky.
What was that? What was it? Man couldn't fly? What was it?
But there again, you go back to the other religions like the Hindu and all that.
They talked about all that thousands of years before Christianity was ever around.
And because I tell people, it's like, you know, here's the deal.

(01:12:52):
As far as religion is concerned, take the one that does you the best.
Go for it. Because if you take all the books, all the religions,
you put them together, you read in between the lines, they all say the same thing.
They basically all have the same things happening, just in different timelines.

(01:13:15):
Yep. But if you want to go wholeheartedly on the Garden of Eden,
okay, I tell people, it's like, okay, I'll go with Adam.
Oh, by the way, Eve was created from Adam out of his left rib.
Left rib, that's where you get married and stuff. The woman always stands on the left.

(01:13:39):
But she was created by God through Adam and from him so that she would be subservient to him.
That she was part of Adam. She was not as good as Adam. She was just part of him.
So she would be subservient. now here's the deal too it's really funny this

(01:14:00):
is what i love they were the first man and woman.
Period breeders you realize that we're all in breeders yep when the bible says
brothers and sisters boys that mean it and i will tell you now eve was one busy woman you know,

(01:14:20):
It has been shown, though, through timelines and stuff, that Adam and Eve were
the first people in the Garden of Eden.
But hundreds of miles away, there were other tribes of humans.
They traveled and met. And that's how the world propagated, was through other tribes and stuff.

(01:14:45):
Because notice the Bible always talks of the 12 tribes.
Where did they come from? You know, it's just how the different beliefs are taught.
It's just like with the elementals. It depends on which religion,
which belief you're dealing with. To what are they?

(01:15:07):
How are they? What do they do? What are the different ones?
Because like I said, there's some that'll only go with like basically like four elementals, really.
But there are because that's the
i mean the pentagram is the pentagram elementals there's
five points to the element to the pentagram there again

(01:15:27):
ladies and gentlemen the pentagram is not evil the
the the emblem that was used for germany
at one particular time is not evil the swan sticker cross is actually a religious
cross it is a good cross you know it just so happens one particular person made

(01:15:50):
it bad you know right but really it's not bad just.
It's just so many different things that make your mind go, hmm.
And people are so easy to believe the first thing that they're told.
Sheeple. That's what we call them. Sheeple. They believe anything.
They believe what they're told. Don't do that.

(01:16:11):
Question everything. Question me. As a matter of fact, I tell people,
look, anything I say, I will back up with proof if I have to.
Somebody's talking about day walkers.
Day walkers. He said he calls them day walkers. He's in here talking about movies.

(01:16:32):
Because day walker is, that's a, what's his name? Blade. He's a day walker. Blade.
Wesley Snipes, the movie Blade. Yeah. Blade 2, Blade 3. He's a day walker.
He's a vampire that can walk during the day.
Plus there's also other groups too that, let's see, what is it?

(01:16:52):
Underworld, something like that? They have day walkers.
But anyway, yeah, but they walk. But anyways, they could be.
I mean, you know, there's I believe.
I mean, first off, we got to get into the whole realm of just vampires.
If you want to talk about daywalkers, vampires in their own self is,
you know, just different things.

(01:17:13):
But I do believe in vampires, but maybe not like what not like what the movie says, you know. Yeah.
And then I was about to say something about evils, because Sierra mentioned something about evils.
As far as demons are concerned, throughout my whole time, I probably maybe run
into one or two that I would maybe consider truly demon.

(01:17:37):
But the thing is, though, people go, well, it's got to be a demon. It's evil. No.
Because what about a person in life?
They're evil. They're mean. They pass away.
Their energy is going to be that also. So now you've got an evil energy.
Just because that energy is evil, does that make them a demon?

(01:17:59):
No, that makes them a nasty person. is all it is.
Unless if you're around somebody by the initials of ZB. Zach.
Everywhere he goes now is because there's a demon.
And people are talking about Zach. It's like, you got to remember too. Zach's got a TV show.

(01:18:22):
The TV show is done by viewers.
That's what the viewers are. If you don't have viewers, you don't have a TV show.
If you have no TV show, you have no monies.
And so, Zach, and I tell everybody, it's like, look, when you're watching TV,

(01:18:43):
take it all as entertainment because that's what it is.
Half the news is entertainment. Right.
Yeah a lot of it's a joke but anyways but
uh what was i going to say yeah but
that i used to tell people like you really want
to do the paranormal bit if you want to understand you want to see more real

(01:19:07):
go online because back in the time because i i put it like this i am the ambassador
in the united states for a organization over in or a group over in the uk called the,
Haunted Antique Paranormal Research Center, HAPRC.

(01:19:27):
They actually have, if you have a Roku TV, an actual Roku TV,
you can get the app called Ghost Planet Network, GPN.
It's free. You see a lot of stuff on there. And their stuff,
it is done by Neil Packer.
He's the owner of HAPRC.

(01:19:47):
And basically, it's a building over there that has nothing but stuff that has
been proven with paranormal attachments.
It's over in Hinkley. They have shows all the time.
They have stuff all the time on Facebook and that kind of stuff,
but it's called On It Antique Paranormal Research Center.

(01:20:09):
Matter of fact, if you go to Facebook and you check out On It Antique Paranormal
Research Center, you'll come up with their page.
And you'll see all sorts. And I mean, they do stuff with Ouija boards.
They do stuff with scrying with black mirrors.
They do all sorts of stuff. And they also touch in on demonology.
I also have a good friend who is over in the UK who is very well versed.

(01:20:31):
Me and him, we school each other all the time on that kind of stuff.
Because I'm also got a nice little piece of paper that says I'm certified in demonology.
That just means I read well and I retain information real well.
That's what i jack of many trades back to that right and i also do practical

(01:20:54):
and scientific paranormal investigation so i'm certified in that again that
piece of paper and two dollars and 50 cents might get me a cup of coffee somewhere
not at starbucks but maybe at walter house,
definitely not starbucks but it's much
of people won't i want to see certifications i want to see I got them.

(01:21:16):
But all that really means is that I can read really well. I can retain information real well.
And I can put it back out real well.
Right. That's exactly what that means. Not whether it do.
It's a different story, but I do, you know that, but, uh, the,
uh, well, I was going to say those, the other deal it's on YouTube and Facebook.

(01:21:40):
Both is the other dimension with Damien.
Well, Damien's not there anymore, but with Ben and his wife,
Louise, and he is very well-scholared in demonology.
He has spent quite a few, quite a good bit of time in the Vatican Library researching stuff.

(01:22:03):
Very good for one night.
And he had, as a matter of fact, he's had to be out for about,
for the last three months or so.
He's kind of been out of it because of the pressures for all of this type of stuff.
Because it will weigh on you quite a bit.
And, you know, when you come and study, when you're studying that kind of stuff

(01:22:23):
and you're going through the lesser keys of Solomon and stuff like that,
you've got to be careful because you can bring some things up that will attach themselves to you.
Right. And on that note about demons, people talk about how evil demons are.
Believe it or not, demons aren't that evil. They're really not.

(01:22:44):
They will help you. They will do things for you.
You but in order to do that though you got to make them a promise you got to promise them that,
you will give them their just rewards when they want it and that's the thing
so you they're not going to kill you in this i mean nothing well they're going
to do stuff for you make you happy keep you things this do that give you if

(01:23:09):
you want to call it give you wishes whatever whatever's within their power, they'll do for you.
But comes time for their just reward, and they ask for it, they want it then and there.
There ain't no lollygagging around. They go, well, how about tomorrow, today?
And it will be today.

(01:23:31):
And then, you know, but are they attached to Satan?
In a roundabout way, but there again, also too, Two, Satan is not the only person in the darkness.
Satan is just one of many. Because I follow Leviathan. If you know Leviathan, I follow Leviathan.

(01:23:54):
It's not Satan, but it's Leviathan. Actually, Satan is under Leviathan.
You've got Baphomet, who is over Satan.
You've got Lucifer. you've got all these people are different a lot of people
are well that's the same person no it's not they're all different.

(01:24:16):
Now, Satan himself was better known as the angel of light.
He was known as the angel of light. He was at the right hand of God.
He was cast into the pit simply because he had followers of other angels.

(01:24:37):
And that is the other fallen angels that you always hear of, the fallen angels.
That's the ones also cast into the pit with
satan with the goddess with the angel of light
and that was because god again
god felt threat it's like the pope felt
threatened the knights templar god felt
threatened of the angel of light and i

(01:24:59):
ask people all the time because they talk about
how god is love god is this god is passion god is okay fine if god is really
that How can he do stuff and let things happen that is happening on earth with
children and stuff where children are supposed to be the pure and all that?

(01:25:21):
Yet he puts them through stuff.
One of my favorite things is when I finally get somebody who is all about religion
and Christianity, I say, okay, fine. Give me just one thing.
Answer me this one question. how many people
has satan killed can he well one

(01:25:43):
of y'all zero zero none satan has never killed anybody no god has thousands
and thousands and thousands so how can god be so so giving so caring caring, so merciful.
Doesn't make sense. Makes no sense. He was afraid of Satan, what it was.

(01:26:10):
And the other angels saw that and followed Satan. And that's how come it became the fallen angels.
And, you know, because I have delved, I have delved in through my,
well, I'll put it like this.
Through my journeys, I have delved through different religions.

(01:26:31):
Satanism being one of them. And when I say Satanism, I do not mean Anton LaVey,
the priest of the Satanic Church of California.
To me, he is hogwash.
He is...
He preaches self-gratification.

(01:26:55):
Self, in other words, you do what you do to make yourself better.
What you want. You ask for it, you go for it. And you do not let nothing step in its way.
Okay, fine. You want to follow him, that's fine.
I will admit a little Bible he wrote up, a little satanic Bible he wrote up.
I do like the seven keys that he wrote.

(01:27:17):
Because those little seven keys will completely destroy this big thing that they call the Bible.
And, you know, I give him credit on that.
But see, I followed more of this person that a lot of people know his name of Aleister Crowley.
If you know who that is, Aleister Crowley. I have two of his grimoires. Really? Oh, yeah.

(01:27:44):
It's been authenticated. They are Alistair Crowley. That's pretty cool. Two of them.
That's pretty cool. None of it's natural. There are spells in both of them.
And they're so old, you've got to be very careful with them.
Because if you turn pages, they can fall out.
Right. They're kept under glass. See, I know the name Crowley just from watching
Supernatural. Ray wouldn't know anything about that.

(01:28:07):
But I know Crowley. Alistair Crowley? Yeah.
My tattoo literally says, I sold my soul to Crowley. Yep. Always like that.
The Pyramid, Alistair Crowley.
If you like Alistair, I'm surprised you don't have the star of Alistair Crowley.

(01:28:30):
See, I just know the name Crowley from Supernatural, the TV show.
Well, Crowley has a six-pointed star. Check it out.
He has a six-pointed star. It's two.
A triangle going this way, and then another one going that way.
It's not the Star of David either.
Because of the way it's done, it's not the Star of David.
The Star of David is a six-point star. But it's not the Star of David.

(01:28:53):
This is the Star of Aleister Crowley. It's Aleister Crowley's star.
Check him out sometime. Go online and check it out.
Yeah, definitely. We definitely need to bring you on for another episode soon,
because I feel like you have so much information.
I know. Y'all probably need to It probably is. I don't know how long it's been.
Y'all probably need to get off the air now.

(01:29:14):
Just a little bit. I also got a storm coming in, so I'm afraid I'm going to
lose power. So I don't want to like have to cut it short during that.
He's got my, he's got my, I put it like this.
Try to send me on Facebook. I'll find you and I'll just say,
you know, when you do try to find me, send me a little note,
say this is so-and-so from such and such. Yeah. Cause I have people.

(01:29:36):
Friend me. And I'll be honest, unless if you've got over 200 friends of mine
on your Facebook page, I deny you.
Well, I'll be sure to send a message and be like, hey, it's Sierra.
Oh, y'all got over 200 mutual friends. Then I go in and I'll look and see who
these mutual friends are.
Then I might improve it. But if it's like, you've got 150 mutual friends, deny.

(01:30:03):
Well, don't deny us. You got a message for me, so I'll make sure I send you
a friend request over. I get about six a day.
I get about six a day wanting to pick my brain and stuff.
Well, I definitely would like to pick your brain again. What you do is message me.
Message me through Messenger. I will see you say, yeah, we talked.

(01:30:25):
What I'll do is I will then go up to you, go to your profile, and I will friend you.
You i'll ask to be your friend okay you know
i'll do that that way or whatever because
like i said i get so many that i i don't i don't i don't really do it because
a lot of them are from the uk too because i've like i said i'm well bigger in

(01:30:45):
the uk than i am in the us gotcha no we'll definitely be reaching out for sure
well you know and if y'all like me come on the show if nothing
else, just to talk random stuff.
Now, if you have a particular subject, let me know ahead of time so that I can
get my brain on that train track.
Absolutely. Otherwise, if I come on, you're out to get anything that day.

(01:31:12):
Maybe that's just what I'm wanting. And I'm also big on conspiracies,
too. I love conspiracies.
That could be an episode. I do love conspiracies.
You about that make you go hmm i do like it's all conspiracies yeah me too so
that's definitely going to be a future episode oh before we go though i do want
to ask you one thing this is back on having to do with the bible okay how many god's,

(01:31:38):
According to the Bible? No. I don't know.
I mean, if you go to... Say what you think. You already told me you believe
Dean was the first Mormon. So go ahead and tell me what you think.
I mean, being raised Baptist, I'd say one. One. Okay. Oh, you were raised Baptist. Okay.
That lets me know a lot right there. Where are you from? I'm from Pennsylvania.

(01:31:59):
Northern PA. You're Northern Baptist then. You're kind of... Yeah.
You're kind of... Hmm. I've kind of strayed away from that path.
Yeah, I'm the hard-shelled Southern Baptist. We're the snake charmers and stuff down here. Mm-hmm.
The Appalachian-type Christians.
Right. We're the scary ones. The scary ones?

(01:32:19):
Well, actually, I was raised knowing that I was Cherokee and born on the reservation.
I was raised as Catholic.
My family, my adopted family was hard-shelled Southern Baptist.
And that's how I know them. them, but I was excommunicated from the Catholic religion.

(01:32:40):
Proud of it. You know, yeah. The archdiocese, they, they, the bishop just didn't
like it when I, when I explained to him that the Pope was the antichrist, he didn't like that.
And then when I told him when he was the biggest pedo there was,
he really hated that they, the biggest pedophile around, he hated that,

(01:33:00):
so I was kicked out of the Catholic religion, tell them never to return.
Do not step back on Catholic property again, ever.
I have. And the building didn't fall down.
But anyway, thanks to our question was, depending on which Bible you read,

(01:33:22):
from the King James, from the revised King James Version, which is probably
what you are familiar with.
Right. That was the book that that the Baptist mainly used was the Revised King James Version.
In there, it basically will tell you one God.
Man was created in his likeness. Or he created man in his likeness.

(01:33:47):
But if you go back to the Gutenberg Bible, which is supposedly the first written
Bible for Christians, In there,
it states man was created in their likeness, their meaning more than one. Yep. Hmm.

(01:34:09):
Like I said, I can show you things all throughout the Bible and stuff,
which will totally tear itself up.
You must be getting some storms or something. You turn around and stuff must be getting nasty.
So anyway, thank you, Sierra, Ray. Thank you both for having me on.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Thanks for joining us. So y'all know how weird I really am. And if y'all won't

(01:34:30):
be back on again, that's fine. Just let us know.
Absolutely. Just give me warning. Warning and what day. I say warning,
I mean what day and everything.
And then also too, whoever's asking me the day before, send me a messenger to
remind me because I will tell you now, I'm retired.

(01:34:53):
I'm disabled and retired. Every day runs together.
I do not know what day. My wife is retired. When she worked,
at least I knew when the weekends was. us.
Now I don't even know that because I think today is Tuesday if I'm not mistaken. It is.
And that's only because tomorrow is my Social Security payday and that's on Wednesday.

(01:35:16):
But, you know, just give me a warning. Give me a heads up of like,
hey, it's tomorrow, Bill. Oh, okay, okay, okay.
Yeah, absolutely. Ray, I've got your message. I'll fling you in just a minute.
See, I'll send you a message. I'll fling you. you
and feel free to if you want
me to come on because the other group i can't remember they come on about 12

(01:35:37):
o'clock or so during the day midday type
thing it's a man and it's a man and a woman a little older than y'all in between
us yeah and they were and they just never got back to me which is fine i mean
i don't mind they might have actually just said they might have I've seen one of my other podcasts,

(01:35:58):
because I used to run a podcast of my own called Rentings of a Madman.
And I've got a lot of people trying to get me to bring it back on again.
But on that, I would just come on and just.
Whatever, you know, whatever happens, happens.
But I will talk to y'all later. Like I said, I hope maybe I get y'all something

(01:36:22):
to think about and maybe check out. And like I was going to say.
I learned some new things today.
So I'm doing that. And did I say, if you believe I'm great, if you don't, great.
If you think it's something else and you think I'm wrong, if you want to tell
me I'm wrong, all I ask is one thing. It won't be the first time I've been told I was wrong.

(01:36:43):
But if you say I'm wrong, all I ask is one thing. Have proof. Do proof.
Because I will have proof of what I'm saying. Right. So you have proof of what
you're saying. And I will tell you this.
You might change the way I think. It wouldn't be the first time. It's happened before.

(01:37:04):
I am not stuck my ways. An old dog can learn new tricks.
That is good to know. But to tell you how long ago I've done podcasts,
y'all know the thing, Art Bell's Coast to Coast, that used to talk about UFOs,
cryptids and all? Long time radio show.
I was on this show quite a few times talking about werewolves,

(01:37:24):
dog beds, stuff like that.
So anyways, on that note, ladies and gentlemen, it has been fun.
It's been my pleasure. I hope I have been entertaining for y'all.
I've been entertaining. I hope maybe I've opened your mind to maybe where y'all
will go search out some stuff even.
Absolutely. And check it out. That's really what I want you to do.

(01:37:46):
I want to make you inquisitive. I want to make you think.
I want you to go out and check things out and research it. That's what I want you to do.
That's the only way I do what I do. I'm not trying to get you to believe what I believe.
I'm just trying to get you to go out and make you think. going,

(01:38:07):
well, Bill says it's pretty interesting.
I'm thinking, well, go check that out and see if he's right or not. That's all I ask.
Absolutely. And if I'm wrong, you see I'm wrong, show me truth and convert me.
You know, otherwise people come back and go, you know, you were right. And it's like, I know.

(01:38:29):
That might happen. Yeah. But anyway, Sierra, Ray, y'all have a great day.
Yes. Thank you. You too. Thank you for coming on.
Bye-bye. See ya.
Well, thank you, everybody. for tuning in to this almost two-hour podcast.
I hope you are still here. I hope you are still listening. Damien,

(01:38:52):
you are always here to the end and we appreciate you. Absolutely.
We are Haunts and Legends. I'm Sierra. This is Rae.
Join us back right where you are now next Tuesday at 7 p.m. for another topic.
Thanks, everyone, for your support. We appreciate all of you guys.

(01:39:12):
Yeah, we support everybody. everybody thanks for all your support and we will
see you next tuesday 7 p.m eastern and see you guys then see ya bye.
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