Ep. 32 The Iceman Part III - Cyanide Sammy - Hear No Evil

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Music.

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Gotcha. Yeah. It's fucking record scratch, man. Scared.
Which, I mean, I don't give a fuck. Like, it just, you know,
it'll just be real funny because it's like, I mean, this was probably going
to need to be a three-parter anyway, so there we go.
There's just a lot of fucking information. So much.

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So much going on with this guy. There's a lot. Yeah. It's ridiculous. I mean, yeah.
Oh, shit. Hell yeah. Jam out, dude. No, it's not me. Oh.
Well, still, somebody's jamming out. It's pretty cool.
I like it. Oh, you got your fucking show drink ready?

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I brought myself a little something special today.
My boss at our office thing, if you want to.
It's not really our office, but we share one. on
and what he contributes to the space is a
cold brew nitro coffee kegerator

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and yeah it just got refilled i guess today yesterday or something so i was
like i'm gonna take a little so i sometimes i'll take it for the road i'm like
you know i'm gonna take it i'm gonna put it in my mug and this is i'm gonna
i'm gonna listen to chris and i'm gonna drink some just high high caffeinated
highly caffeinated coffee that's awesome
hell yeah that's a good idea i you know i

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gotta be honest i'm real fucking jealous right now because
i was you know i
got home and i'm sitting there going okay you know because you know it's during
the week i'm trying to drink and all that shit but you know i got ginger ale
and i got all these like other like carbonated drinks and i fucking go to the
fridge nada not a fucking thing left there's nothing in there Nothing left.

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I crushed it all this weekend. And so the disappointment that set in,
that's like, oh, cool. I'm going to have this cup of water.
They're like, it just doesn't, you know, hearing that, that pop of that can,
man. I was like, oh, that's, that's what I needed. A cup of water.
Yeah. It's, it's horrible. No, brother. Brother.

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Exactly. Oh my God, dude. Yeah. It's disgusting. That's I do that at work.
Work gym after those hours are over water
sigh of fucking nara dude you're not you're
not coming anywhere near me dude i usually like chug
it like randomly just because like you need water but i don't ever sit there
and sip it like i feel like a fucking oh yeah oh absolutely no agreed agreed

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get in for mowing the lawn boom chug some shit fucking drank too many beers
the night before chugs oh yeah yeah right before you go to bed you chug it but
this this feels this feels odd This is really weird.
I just, I don't feel, I don't feel fucking normal at all. You can't listen to
murder, talk about murder, or commit a murder while sipping water.

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These are the three no-nos of water consumption.
Like, I'm just, like, staring at the cup like you're a piece of shit. You little bitch.
You're not- Fuck you, cup. You're just, you're barely hydrating me.
You have no electrolytes. Fucking worthless piece of shit.
Yeah, and there's no cool sound. Like, there's no pop top.
No. You know, like, what are you actually drinking? so what we

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do around la casa larson is
we've got some sugar-free like
pump squirt type things like
it's like mio god damn come on
okay sorry i'm not anyway so

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you're squirting in your water lowest level lowest comedy right
now respect you should be ready for that exactly this yes i don't well no it's
my fault for getting off script because sitting next to me i have like an eight
and a half by 11 sheet in like five point font with all the words that i can't say around you

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because it's gonna fucking make fun of me for that shit and yep there it is number 23 squirt.
Number 47 pump oh yeah
dude you say pump pump anyways we have
some sugar-free stuff it's like the mio it's like mio but it's like it's it's
big bottles like you would like find like coffee flavoring or something yeah

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yeah and you just see it we have we rotate out the bottles and we keep the little
pump tops and it's got like there's some like coconut flavored type shit it's
called like mermaid water it's delightful
then you go from drinking bland old water to all
of a sudden you're just like sipping on a mermaid's vagina
which i can only imagine tastes like coconut
fish oh oh okay yeah all right don't ruin ariel for me bro and listen that would

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be fine i think like i don't i don't necessarily hate water but it's the carbonation
i need it's the it's no no you are correct the fizz like i I don't know. This is bullshit.
You know, like welcome to our fucking water podcast.
You know, like I'm still bland. Yeah. We'll just pour it out.
No i can't do that but bummed to even talk about murders right now i i really

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it it brings you down doesn't it it's like fucking just average fucking water
i feel like so the water boy like he would be super pissed right oh my god yeah
he would tackle the fuck out of me.
See i'm gonna go listen to another podcast i
was speaking to that before we get into it

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so i've got yeah but before
we get into it into it oh into it okay before we
get into the the murders you know i there's
other podcasts i listen to and there's one that's you
know i was i think i was going on like i was walking the fucking dog and i'm
listening and these guys are funny as hell man there's probably one of my favorite

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ones but the one guy you know how i go off on rants about forrest gump oh sure no yeah Yeah, yeah,
yeah, never. Greatest fucking movie ever.
He also went on a rant about how Forrest Gump is the fucking worst movie ever
made, and it's fucking stupid. Wow.

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Dude, I wanted to chokeslam this guy.
I was like, I've liked him all the way up until now, and I just wanted to fight
him. I was like, dude, I'm not.
Going up to Ohio, I'm going to fight this motherfucker. How many people have
said that phrase? Probably.
I'm going to go to Ohio and fight this motherfucker. Yes. Probably.

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Yeah, that's a lot of mottos.
For a lot of states, I think. A lot of states, I think that's just like your
statement. It's like on the back
of their currency, if they had their own currency. Fight people from Ohio.
Go to Ohio and fight someone. one
my question would be listen if
you got a problem with just the movie itself

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like i get it if you don't enjoy it cool you know
i'm not saying i'm like the biggest fan especially there's like certain parts that
i just like don't enjoy but if you
have beef with the movie as far
as like a piece of art or cinema then then
you're an idiot because that movie is fantastic i
mean borderline flawless right agreed oh

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you know i agree with you well and then and then
somebody somebody asked him about jenny and he's like
oh yeah she's not bad what get the fuck out what have you
watched the movie i was like maybe he
didn't see the movie i was like that's got to be it she's the worst she's one
of the worst villains i've ever she's a bitch he just watched the end that was
it he just he he caught it was like yeah he was flipping through on tnt and

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he caught the last like 15 minutes of it yeah she's all right just where they're
all like being a little family in the apartment. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. He's like, oh wow. It's kind of a dumb movie. Cool.
Nothing really happens in this one. Huh? Next.
Yeah. That's a douche. That's an, that's an immature take on that.
I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna say that much. Yeah. Well, on the record,

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like I said, I've never been a huge fan, but I will always say that it is like top notch filmmaking.
Yeah. Yeah. And Tom Hanks is fucking amazing in it. And, uh.
And that's it he's all it's it's
just it just really gave me like a visceral reaction i was like
wow it's like i care about this movie way too much like

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like the way that people get like really angry about like
politics which you know about their their candidate like
i don't i don't do that but if you insult forrest gump like
i you know like my my blood pressure goes
up and i just start like you know getting getting
angry it's weird like i start hulking out i would
love for audience members to chime

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in on social media go to
gmail hear no evil show at gmail.com fuck our
podcast just just start teeing off on forrest gump and chris i want you to read
it read everyone i want you well you know just yeah please do that because we're
going to block all of you zero followers detailed reasons as to what i especially

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want like hey if you're like in a in a,
filmmaking class or something you're like really smart when it comes to this
stuff just tell us why it's just garbage just really really lean in on it somebody's
really smart they're not listening to this fucking podcast sorry for whoever's listening right now.
I'm fucking kidding. You guys are geniuses. Many, many leather rounds books. So listen.

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Wow. So for all you, for all you PhD candidates out there, we're gonna,
we're gonna jump right into this motherfucker. Yeah.
Whoa. So where did we, so we stopped with the, because I did,
when I was going over to edit, you heard me talking about the Gemini method, right?
The Gemini method, yeah, we were in the middle of it, and we had some technical

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difficulties, which is fine, because we have a lot more to go.
This is just an immediate case that...
Oh, I thought you meant more mistakes. I was like, yeah, we do.
Also true. That's true.
Do you remember it at all? Because I know it was a lot.

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Yeah, yes, the Gemini case. I've already memorized it, and I've gone out and perfected it. Oh, shit.
Yeah, it's the Gemini 2.0. So they do a little snatch and grab, right?
They bring the dude in, right?
They pop him in the head, but real quickly, then they wrap him up so that like,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They stab him in the heart because that will stop the blood flow.
Then they wrap them up in a in a
in a in a blankie and they tie them
up in a tub i believe or something like that
some room and then let them bleed out in there so
that there's not a lot of trace of blood yep good job dude that was that was

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uh that was really good awesome it's like i listened to the podcast i think
the only thing i think the only thing you forgot was the when they They do the silencer to the head.
They like wrap a towel around his head like right after.
Oh, I see. I was thinking that that's what I was thinking. The blanket. Yeah.
Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah. But you got it. I mean, that's pretty good.

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Sorry. Sorry. One thing. It was just out of order, but it's still right.
Yeah. And then before that, they then they lay out the plastic bags after they
dry them out and they dismember them. Yes.
Which I think if you ever see Snatch the movie. Yeah. Like when they when the
guy feeds them to the pigs. Right. Yes. Yes.
Great fucking great movie, by the way.

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Yeah, I was just when we got cut off, I was just kind of waxing poetic on the
thought of just how many like people we don't know were killed in that way.
You know, just like how many nameless they're not nameless.
They have names, you know, but how many people that just, you know,
never came home because they got, you know, picked up by these guys and got

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the Gemini method. They're just like, boom, out.
Yeah. And it's just like, well, dad's gone. Where's dad?
You know, it's just, it's really horrifying, you know, as like efficient and,
you know, like, I don't know.
Yeah. Motherfuckers are dropping probably. Yeah. It was like,
oh, dad's going to go hang out with his mob buddies. And then.
Yeah. All right. That's it. I never came home. And I'm sure.

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And that's the thing, too, is I'm sure, you know, that lifestyle probably is pretty, you
stressful like you're you're always kind of thinking hmm am
i next maybe i'm gonna die today you know like see i
was thinking yeah i was thinking more or less
like random people i guess you know i i
guess hopefully it's not used on random people

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like hey you know i we moved
into town and guess what you're the the corner
store and we own you now and even though you're a good person you
never would be involved with the mob you kind of have to go along with it you know
that's kind of what i was thinking not necessarily like a wise guy that got hit
like that but more just like an innocent person that kind of
stumbled into it i mean even so even if you're a
wise guy you don't deserve to die like that but at that

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point at least you know what you're getting into and you should be looking over
your shoulder because you're probably gonna get gemini'd real quick probably
yeah like somebody's gonna say oh he's a rat or he's a snitch or yeah you know
rumors spread pretty quick and they're like up time to die or they send the
fucking polak on you either way like it's not not fun yeah i would not be cut out for that lifestyle.
No, I don't think he really is. Yeah. I can't, I can't keep a secret.

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I can't, I can't, I can't hide a gift from my wife, like two days before a birthday.
Like, Nope, sorry. Here it is. Got it.
That's it. That's what I got you. It's birthdays in two days. Nope.
Right now have it right now. I can't keep a secret. Now, is that only if it's like a really good gift?
Because I feel like I do that too. Like if, if I get somebody gifted,
it's I'm like impressed with

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it i'm like okay i know your birthday is in two months but
here you go yeah but if it's like okay i'm like fine wait and
i'm like yeah whatever i guess no yeah
i guess i could see that i could see that yeah you're correct
because you're not excited because you're like they're probably gonna fucking
hate it like i try not to get gifts i don't like to give again so i don't know

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i'm usually always even if i'm misguided in my enthusiasm i'm usually still
pretty enthusiastic you're just stoked i got you something check out the new vacuum.
Cool happy 10th anniversary you're like
jumping around all fucking excited and they're like cool thanks i'm just fucking
like crumbling crackers on the floor so she'll try it

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out i mean it's more about you
giving the gift is more about you you're just impressed with your your choice
so it's it's selfish you're selfish i am good job giving gifts early so so when
they so they do this gemini method and so richard actually went over there one
time And the reason he had went over to see DeMeo,

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because we discussed this, they had this little run in.
And Richard had decided that he needed to have DeMeo on his side because he wanted more work.
He wanted to kind of get in good with the mob and keep those big hit checks
coming in, right? Keep the porn industry running.
Exactly. At this point. Fucking nasty Polack porn, but I'm just assuming. Wow.

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Polacks make love beautifully oh they do man i mean hold on let me see pornhub.com,
but uh but he went in there and fucking so he's in the house and i guess he
you know decided to go take a fucking piss when he's in there like you know
to make amends with and he sees a guy you know hanging upside down in the fucking

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shower you're draining and he He fucking walks out and DeMeo's like,
hey, did you see that guy in there taking a shower?
He's like, yeah. And he's all excited about it and laughing his fucking ass off.
And so, like I said, I really tried to paint the picture of this guy being, he was psychotic.
He was unhinged. He was always on cocaine fucking rides and just all over the

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fucking place. And this is the kind of shit he would do and just laugh about it.
So you know him and richard started talking and
the mail's like heard about him heard
he was a good hit man heard he was ruthless and he says
okay he's gonna give him a chance to kind of work for him to start doing hits
for him okay now you know he considered him more for because like i said you

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know he had the gemini method he had the fucking murder machine like they were
killing plenty of people already but the mayor was trying to move up become
this made man so he figured okay Okay,
I'll get this big motherfucker to do the ones that I don't have time to do.
Can't quite fit you into my schedule. Right.
Imagine killing that many fucking people that you got to have like an extra

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guy just in case, like a backup.
Outsourcing your fucking murder. Nice.
That's a different life. Fucking LinkedIn, dude.
Looking for murderers. need a side hustle you know like call me the mayo you know like,

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so they do a little test run he's like I don't know if I fucking believe all
the shit I heard about you let's go for a ride so they're going for a drive and while they're on it,
Demeo points out a random guy walking his dog and he says, go kill that guy. What?
So Richard fucking grabs the fucking gun that he gave him, walks up,
bang, shoots the guy in the back of the head, gets in the car and acted like nothing had happened.

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Just done. All right. What's next? Wow.
So he must have been impressed with that then. Oh, he was super impressed.
Yeah. He loved it. He was like, cool.
You're my guy now. like i you've got fucking
no emotional fucking it's like there's you
you're you're fucked up like you're fucking you're gone so
yeah you're my guy my people yeah i

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know you love the randomness of that because isn't that like this
the scariest shit right that is yeah yeah it
didn't do anything to deserve it and yeah i
was walking my dog this morning god damn it like what you're gonna
fucking shoot me like good lord fuck
dude it is weird it is weird and i assume
that the dog you know got away and he lived with a really nice

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family and you know had a good life that's
that's that's the way we're gonna believe it that's how
i think it happened i think that's what i read somewhere and make believe land
because richard never harmed any animals that's true ever uh well yeah that
is true we'll get to that no we we discussed it we did the cats we know we he
he did some stuff to cats we know that oh yeah yeah but i used to beat dogs

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and stuff yeah yeah i remember i remember
everything gemini method beating on cats and dogs i
get it all the important stuff my kids birthdays spotty but
this stuff in the locker man got in
the vault you're making room for the important shit here all right good yeah
my wife will remind me all that other shit that's fine that's why even be married

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if not for that hell yeah i mean it's you know that's what i use facebook for
i'm like happy birthday they're like oh you remembered i'm like yeah of course
Facebook notification popped up. Yeah.
So he got his first big job with the Mayo and it, this required him to go kind of go out of state.
Right. So he had to go to Miami for this hit. I thought you were going to say Ohio.

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That would have been perfect. Oh man. No. Miami, Ohio.
Nope. Close. There's a Miami, Miami, Ohio. Correct. There is. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Just checking. So just, just, you just flexing those fucking geography.
Yeah. It's mostly because of football.
Cause I know there's a Miami, Ohio football team. Oh yeah. That plays like D one.
So that's going to, Oh, yeah, yeah. They're super good. They're the best.

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I think they're the best ever at Miami of Ohio. I think they're playing Miami
of Florida next week. They're not even the best Miami, let alone the best Miami.
That's very true. They're not the best Miami.
Actually, Miami looks promising this year. Not bad. Not bad.
That's always fun. I like when Miami's good. I'm not a fan.

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They're not my team. but like them usc texas you know the the big names i want
to see them do good it's nostalgic yeah it is usc just fucking put that ass
whooping on lsu i enjoyed that me too because you know it's just it's just nice
to see you know except michigan i just hope they always are horrible.

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But so this guy this guy in miami that he went to get he had basically what
had happened this guy I raped a 14 year old girl who was friends with one of the made men.
And so what had happened here was, you know, the cops couldn't really do anything
about it because they tried to ID him as like a suspect, but he was wearing

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like a fucking mask or, you know, or whatever.
So they couldn't get like a positive ID, but these guys knew they were like, no, it's him.
So instead of them just going in fucking shooting
the guy they're like no no we want this guy to
suffer let's go get fucking richard let's
get the poll out let's get richard i like
it yeah they're like nah this is not an easy kill

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like we want him to really suffer and they told him that he said he needs
to suffer like this is what we're sending you down there for well
he's done it before we know he's made men suffer before the
uh the the jersey car salesman yeah yeah yeah i mean he's he's pretty good at
it yeah and here's another thing dude not gonna lie kind of glad i thought you

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raped a 14 year old girl well oh yeah oh god dude he's just like the arbiter of justice.
That's all there is to it. That guy
walking the dog, he's probably also a pedophile. I think I read that too.
Yeah. Or I'm going to pretend. He's probably a bad guy. Yo, listen.

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Yo, I think we're in agreement. Most people don't deserve to die.
But I like to just live in the assumption that people in general probably suck.
They've probably done something.
So it's like, okay, whatever. Shit happens. damn
i'll remember that at your funeral i
would yeah listen he told me he wanted on his tombstone meh shit happens like

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that absolutely that's it do that he got crushed by a 600 pound piano shit happens
shit happens you should have been walking there.
This guy regardless this guy definitely fucking deserved

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what was coming to him you don't fucking rape anybody period that's that's one
of my rules at least oh that's nice yeah our viewer our listenership just went
up there you go hey guys chris said he don't rape people oh we should listen
there was a there were a lot of people that kind of
borderline based on some of that like papa enchilada shit you

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were talking about oh my god you're very you're
like kind of half half in half out but
now you've clarified it now you clarify like
oh shit he was just joking cool oh my god so so he goes down to miami and i'm
sure he fit right in you know being this very very large super white man man

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from new york yeah yeah he's like Like just got this fucking like Hawaiian shirt on. Yeah.
He's, he's just fitting right in. And so what he does is he finds the guy's
car and he like lets the air out of his tires.
And so when the guy stops to like try to fix his shit, he bashed him over the
back of the head, duct tapes them and fucking throws them in the car.

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So he takes them out. Now that's gotta be a scary feeling, which again,
I don't feel bad for this guy at all, but you're going to kind of teeter the
line to where you, you might start to consider it. Hey, Richard, just chill.
Is that? Yeah. I'm going to get to that chill moment. Okay.
I got you. So he ties him to a palm tree, right? He beats the shit out of him.
Of course it's a fucking palm tree. That's Miami. Jeez.

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What does he beat him with, a pinata stick? Yeah.
Uh-oh your dog didn't like that one no he didn't,
bruiser chill dude we're just having fun yeah it's
a joke buddy it's a joke papa dinero's having some fun don't worry about it
he's gonna get the candy out of this motherfucker no piñata's getting hurt over

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here guy so after he beats him for a little bit he rips his fucking balls off
with his hand oh no way with his hands with his hand now that is
holy shit i didn't know you could do that i mean
i guess 50 pounds of pressure okay that's
not a lot off a nut set did you look that up i did

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i love i love you i had to i had to because i fucking read that and like i winced
you know and i grabbed my sack and i was like oh god you know and then i was
like it's almost like you know you're just wondering i'm like how the fuck do you
do that and then oh 50 pounds of pressure makes sense anytime you go to the

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gym and you see a 50 pound dumbbell you're just gonna kind of side eye it a
little bit right and stay the fuck away fuck you dumbbells they're getting my balls.
Just fucking screaming in the middle of the gym,
quit looking at my balls you know fuck you oh man hey um real quick can we pause

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for just five seconds yeah man i'm gonna let that dog he's like freaking out okay hold on a second,
boy oh yeah so i i
see why he was freaking out and i'm super excited about it that's
awesome them okay so check this
out to tell oh i

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thought i heard something i thought i heard something dude i thought
i heard you like dude were you putting like ice in a
glass yeah i was uh picking up
the bags out front a little instacart action oh okay
okay okay yeah yeah got us
dude i'm a fucking uh you know i'm a fucking single
mom over here man i've cooked and cleaned i get the motherfuckers to deliver

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that shit i've i love instacart okay that is the greatest thing ever and i will
never ever not use it that's amazing 20 bucks to go to the store for me yeah done easy that's.
Save me like i'll spend that in gas and the fucking tank that
i'm driving around in so okay so real quick

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along this line okay we have
or had neighbors that would
door dash all the time right and this is
not this is not a slight on you this
is this is just what they did and i know i know you're a
door dash kind of guy right we know somebody that actually
delivered to them once so they're pretty good tippers i guess right

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but we would be outside and see in one
night one friday night three different cars pull up
we got like dinner for the kid dinner for
mom and dad and a dessert right like they're
they're doing it right they're doing it the right way and
these very same people put like a
request on facebook for a dog like

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can you watch our dog can you take our dog out or something right my wife's
like okay we kind of know them she's like yeah i'll do it for you you know like
it's just this week once a day sure like but look that we're on it actually
oh man that's so cool like what do you guys charge and my wife's like oh like
whatever you whatever you
normally do is fine right take a guess at how much they say what their normal rate is okay for

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per takeout per per day it's just one takeout so just per day from the tone
i'm going to say they tried to say like 15 bucks.
Three dollars get the fuck
out of here for the one day fifteen dollars for
the week for the whole week i wouldn't answer your fucking text for three dollars

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are you out of your god damn that is so fucked up isn't that crazy and and she
responded she's like what do i do
with this i was like i i don't know dude so she
responded with hey i'll actually
because like it was just like just let the dog out like to the green space

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near our house like the dog will go and then come back it's not a big deal you're
just essentially opening the door and making sure the dog doesn't get run over
or something like that but my wife responded she's like hey you know what i'll
do it i'll just take your dog for like a 20 minute walk and we'll just say like
10 bucks 10 bucks for the day, 50 for the week.
And we'll just call it even. She's like, oh, it's not really in our budget.

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That was the response. That's not really in our budget. I'm like,
bro, you, you probably tip that much in DoorDash in a week.
Holy crap. How, why? $3?
Like, you know, those, those things, you know how we tell our Patreon fans,
like, hey guys, for the price of one Starbucks, you know, maybe not a latte.

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Cause those are pretty pricey, but like, you know, like a grande Monday,
coffee with a little whipped cream on that shit, right? You could be a Patreon member, right?
That's what we normally say. But that's like $5.95, like six bucks,
right? Yeah. You can't get dick for $3, right? No.
You couldn't even say, hey, for the price of a what? For what?
You can't even get like a, there's no dollar, man. You want McDonald's anymore.

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A fucking Pepsi from the gas station. Yes. Like a small one. Yes. A half can.
That's already been opened. Semi, yeah.
That is bro that is so that's fuck yeah i can't fucking
fathom that yeah like no to say
that to like another person adult yeah

(30:43):
maybe a kid or something like hey i got 15 for you like at the end of the week
like oh we'll get a pokemon you know but like to tell that to like a grown-ass
human being like i'll give you 15 bucks at the end of the week like fucking
keep it you know i wonder if i wonder part of that too like did you say like
y'all know each other kind of yeah so So, and you live close.
So I think incorrectly what they were doing is going like doing the price off

(31:09):
of how much effort they think it would take you.
So like, oh, well, she's just got to walk right over here and open the door. Well, you can't do that.
It's the value of what the fuck you're asking.
Don't worry about what that person does or does not have to do.
That's irrelevant. relevant i mean if if i hired a dog
walker and i say hey 20 bucks

(31:31):
per walk and then the person that signs up
for it lives across the hall i'm not gonna go oh well for
you it's five sure that's it that's not how it works you
know and likewise if that person lived in
north carolina you're not gonna say well i'll give
you a hundred dollars now because it's because you're
coming all the away from there yeah yeah it's

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the exact just fucking wild dude
like you know my wife's got like like my
child that is around and she also watches other children during the day so you
have to like wrangle all the kids to leave the house and go it's not like we're
right next door we used to be but we don't live right next door anymore gotta
wrangle them up walk down the street let it yeah three dollars it's just like

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it's not worth me having to remember to do this every day at 10 o'clock for $3.
No. And again, whatever, you know, the person that is doing the service,
like whatever they have to do is irrelevant.
But like that, when you get to look at that number, you're like, nope.
You know, it's irrelevant whether you accept the job, but like, yeah, that's $3.

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Well, I think the response was, this is what we normally give our dog person, but they're busy.
No way. Then of course they're busy doing other jobs that pay getting paid.
Like I, I had a dog walker one time and, and I just got her off of like,
she, she was on one of the Facebook groups and was like, Hey,

(32:54):
like, is anybody, you know, I'm walking dogs, like I'm in between jobs. And I was like, sure.
And so she would come by like twice a week. And I remember like the first time
she sent me like the Venmo thing, because she took them for like a fucking 30
minute walk and sent me a Venmo for 15 bucks.
And I was like, like 20, like I just gave her like, I was like,
I can't give you that little, like you drove out here.

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You took my fucking dog out for me. Like that is a huge weight off my shoulders
to not have to go all the way over there and do it.
Like here's 25 bucks, like whatever, you know?
Yeah. But that's, I mean, get what you pay for and everything.
It's a different world now too. This is a different like economy.
You could have pulled that shit maybe back in like 1995. maybe

(33:36):
correct you know but like inflation bitch like
what do you what are you talking i just think that
that number the number itself is so insulting you
know like five at least anything below five yeah just like give you five like
like if it was like oh well you know what we didn't actually need you for the
whole week you know i got six i'm just gonna be home so i'll just give you money

(33:57):
for for the monday here's three dollars yeah i'm not like Like what?
Like I'm going to have change?
Like if you give me a $5 bill, I've got to give you money back? No, fuck no.
Like that is a waste of my time to reach into my wallet.
Like I don't want it. I don't even want it. I know. That's ridiculous.
Yeah. So essentially it was just like, okay, well, I understand if you can't do it, that's fine.

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Yeah. That's the way that my wife put it. It was just like, okay, I get it.
Not a big deal. Hope you find somebody.
Oh, God. I get it. Because, listen,
I definitely cut back way back on the DoorDash. I'll still Instacart.
I do DoorDash here and there. But...

(34:44):
But in doing that though like i said
i also pay a fuck ton to
my man i paid i tip really well like i don't i
don't go well doordash is super important but everything else that you know
comes my way is shit like i tip the instacart people better i tip everybody
you know my stupid ass i'll feel bad ordering certain things off instacart even

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though if you're doing it you obviously signed up for this but i'm like oh man
i got like heavy shit in there and they got to come
up the stairs like yeah it's like i'll be tipping more for
that even though i walk up these fucking stairs every day so like i do
i like i've i got a soft spot for that shit man like i'll tip the
fuck out of people but well it's because you're a good person
well let's not tell people that i'm trying not to it's all right when they hear

(35:31):
how you talk about your sexual conquests they'll they'll drop that right back
down they're like oh okay good he's he's okay yeah it's called balance yeah
yeah yeah again like i said i just you don't tip them hoes right.
They only get the tip i'm

(35:53):
like three let's go four inches oh well that's a good segue into uh ball ripping
ball ripping so where we left off before we went down our doordash and bad tippers thing is,
richard had this guy duct taped
to the tree he had just ripped his balls off that wasn't

(36:16):
enough he then pulled out a
knife and cut his dick off well i mean you gotta i was gonna say go full package
but that's a combo it's the dick balls combo it's just cheaper that way oh god
and then he put it in a bag and i think you know he put it in the bag because
again he wanted to take it back and say,

(36:37):
look, I fucking fucked this guy up real bad.
So then he starts, he throws him in the car because he's not done with him.
He starts cutting slabs of meat off of this guy like he was in a fucking Brazilian
steakhouse and pours salt on the wounds as he's doing it. Oh my God.

(36:58):
Yeah, almost done. He then puts a life jacket on him, throws him into the water
and lets like the sharks get him.
No. Yes. Okay, so...
This dude knew where sharks were i mean i
just don't take it for granted that there's just sharks everywhere yeah i don't

(37:20):
either but like i mean you're in miami you're probably like there's probably
some like dock you know like pier some shit where you can go and like feed the
fucking you know fish and he's like well if i throw this motherfucker in there like.
Maybe a shark's gonna eat him you know i don't like
great whites are hanging out a lot but they're like up north there's a
lot of them like like massachusetts cape well i don't

(37:41):
think a great white i think no i suppose not little tiger sharks and like even
fish will start pricking at like either whatever's in the water swimming around
it's gonna fucking it's gonna suck when it's like biting you you know like and
you got the life jacket on you're dying anyway yeah i was gonna say you probably
just wanted to get it over with at that point you're calling in,
you're calling in jaws to come and just finish you off right oh yeah you're

(38:03):
hoping a big shark comes but it probably won't be it'll probably be a bunch
of little ones that just piss you off
he's gonna be bleeding out at this point oh big time
you can't he wouldn't have lasted that long no but
i think the the my favorite part about this was
the life jacket it's just the the you
know i'll go i'm gonna give richard's like he's a smart guy if you're judging

(38:24):
him by by this he's that's fucking smart i wouldn't have thought of that yeah
at all like i wouldn't even have brought over life jacket with me like it was
well i mean well yeah he definitely thought about he He was creative.
He brought salt with him for fuck's sake. You know, like he's seasoning this guy.
He's a creative guy, man. He's got a talent. It's just as simple as that.

(38:47):
So whatever. Fuck, you know. Well, like we said at the beginning of this two
episodes ago, if you love what you do, you'll never work a day.
And this guy just loved what he did.
He obviously did because he didn't have to do all this. He could have just showed
up with the dick in the bag and been like, here's a dick.
And I'd be like, oh, wow, you tortured that guy. Your motherfucker got me in a drink on that one.

(39:09):
That's what chris does on all his dates dude he shows up with the dick in his bag,
it's it's the dick in the back hey oh god hey it's chris it's chrissy b and
i got the dick in the bag let's make it happen oh my god oh wow oh so uh there's a dick in a bag,

(39:31):
i love the accent all of a sudden had just now like you just gave me this like real fucking like
mafioso you can't you can't do that
without some kind of accent you can't just
say it in your normal voice no hey here's a
dick in a bag that's now you need some
yeah yeah you need some enthusiasm with that

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and with that enthusiasm it's gonna come a little
bit of dramatic flair yeah i love it i love it that's
i'm gonna try that on my next date are you gonna
be clothed while you do it like is every are you gonna be clothed everywhere
else and then just the dick like the dick in a box gag on just a ziploc bag
oh ziploc okay so it's clear i was thinking well yeah that's oh well you gotta

(40:15):
let them see it i mean well that's when you pull the bag off oh.
You know it's a big reveal dude if you try putting it in a ziploc bag you're
gonna look like nothing but mushy man meat it's gonna look disgusting don't
do that okay that's a good idea don't do that that's a good i'll do a real i'll
do like a hefty like a big bag,

(40:37):
so then they can just be disappointed oh my god like you could have used a thimble,
so i think we met our quota on dick talk for today we have and dick's got ripped
off and and everything yeah i honestly don't want to hear the word dick anymore
today okay note to self note taken.

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I'm putting it, I'm scratching it off the list here.
We're done. Okay. With Richard's.
Good one. I was really just, I was like, God, he's just going to say it.
So, so this story, so remember I told you at the very beginning,

(41:22):
some people, you know, a lot of people that talk about this,
all of Richard's, you know.
Conquest and in in all his hits that they believe
that he made some of it up yeah and again we said like i
don't think that i just i think it
would be fucking stupid like he's done so much crazy shit
that there's proof of why even make it

(41:43):
up agree so this is one of the stories that they're
like uh we don't know if that actually happened blah blah blah
so there's actually
proof though that he was in the area like
when this guy was the miami hit
so on the way back
from this hit he's in south carolina okay

(42:05):
and there was a road rage incident and i'm
sure we've we've all had those i've had a handful yeah
i had a handful today today well do
you remember is there one like road rage incident like sticks out to
you that you just will never forget it no honestly
no i i really don't my rage stays.

(42:27):
Confined to the vehicle and i don't
really remember i you know i've had people maybe like
flip me off because they think i might have gotten too close or something
like that but i i've never had any real interaction
with another human when it comes to that sort of stuff okay well let's let's
let's be glad that you didn't flip him off because that's actually what pissed

(42:47):
him off about this this incident okay yeah so these three guys are in south
carolina and they're they're being they're like slamming on the brakes and getting
in front of them and you know just just doing this dumb they're hooting and hollering and.
He's getting pissed right and yeah he's laying on his horn he's trying to get
around him and then they like drive by and give him the finger and so he gets

(43:10):
in front of him and And so, you know, pull over.
And so they get out and they're ready to whoop his ass. You know,
they're like, yeah, we're going to fuck this guy up. And he shoots all of them. Wow. Yeah.
And he says later when he's talking to the psychologist in this interview is
that, you know, them giving him the middle finger was that was too much.
That was that was enough reason in his mind to die.

(43:33):
Wow. Yeah. So I I don't even think that the road rage shit was actually pissing
him off. I think that was annoying him.
But once they gave him the finger, he's like, well, OK.
And that's why I don't do road ragey things, because I'm not prepared to kill anyone.
That's smart. Yeah, you really shouldn't. and i i
don't know if somebody next to me is like i'm

(43:54):
not gonna fuck with that dude people are unpredictable it could
have been this guy could have been richard exactly yeah you
never know it's it's always better to lean on the side of caution i
i yeah just don't just don't do it don't do road rage unless
you're you're unless you're ready to go and be as crazy
as this motherfucker don't do it and it's still just probably shouldn't
i just made a tiktok video video today about road rage ironically enough

(44:16):
but i like that it's
stupid it's stupid they're all great so
but that's up for debate as to whether that happened or not no so the people
doubt the they're like oh we don't think he went to miami and did all that but
oh okay these three guys this was an unsolved murder from that same time like

(44:36):
this was a real this happened okay and this
murder actually didn't get solved
until Richard came out and gave all this information in this documentary.
And so that's how they solved it. But they were like, it was like a big thing
in South Carolina back then. They were like, what the fuck? These three guys
are just dead by their car.
Like this doesn't even make sense. So that was like some.

(44:57):
Kind of proof that he was in the area, right? Yeah.
So the next one, and these get, look, we're going to get a little more kind
of crazy talk with these, right? Like that wasn't even the worst one.
This one I think it was probably the worst, but there was a guy that was dating
the daughter of like a made man.

(45:17):
And when the guy asked him like, hey, what are your intentions with my daughter?
He kind of was like a smart ass. And he was like, ah, you know,
just fucking, just having some fun.
And the guy didn't like that he just was like
that's the wrong fucking answer yeah which it is
100 the wrong answer yeah regardless of who
the person is yeah correct correct regardless

(45:38):
of the person is but especially like just for
your own safety like first of all like don't even date her no you
know it can't be that good like i'm not you know
if if it's if he's like oh he's a mob boss i'm like i
don't even want to know who his daughter is like i just want to fucking can stay the
fuck away from the whole city actually like i'm

(45:59):
not trying to get like the mafia after me for some fucking for
some slam you know like come on jesus and then
you fucking tell him that like you're like just fucking just hitting it yeah
what wow fucking mind yeah you're right you wouldn't say that to fucking joe
blow dad you know like yeah yeah i hope you wouldn't say it to me i have two

(46:20):
daughters if you say right like like the problem yeah yeah this is where you are not seeing her again,
So we'll just, we'll put it nicely. And also where's your dad?
Cause I'm gonna go beat the shit out of him in front of you. Yeah.
Well, and I think this guy was old enough to get his ass beat.
I think he was like twenties. Like he was, he was an adult.
Okay. Perfect. So yeah. So yeah, we're beating everybody's ass.

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But they called Richard on him. I'm guessing. Right. They did.
Yes. They called Richard. He's just the dog that you just unleashed when you're
just not happy with someone. Right. Oof.
Yeah. Oh my God. Okay. So what would you. so richard had a favorite cave that
he would go near that he found when he was hunting this and this man yeah i don't have a favorite i.

(47:09):
What's your favorite color purple uh what's your favorite song a little richard
what's your favorite uh what's your favorite cave your favorite what,
favorite cave yeah everyone's got a favorite cave right you know the record no exactly,
there's exactly one person that can answer that question and
it's fucking i almost said bruce willis bruce wayne

(47:32):
bruce wayne that's the
only person that can answer that question yeah every way
that's the bat cave yeah richard had the rat cave
oh that's really really get the fucking cave was full of rats but are they called
rats i mean i'm calling it the rat cave he just called it he wasn't you know
he was creative with murder but not with his name so i think he just I said

(47:55):
it was a cave and had rats in it. So very, very missed opportunity on his part.
But regardless, he took this guy there and he was like, we're going to go fucking see my rats.
And then what he did was he took some wet rawhide and he put it around his fucking
face and his arms and his balls. Again, with the balls.

(48:15):
And the thing with the rawhide is as it dried, it would shrink.
Oh, so the fucking thing is on his arms. It's on his face. It's on his nuts and it's shrinking.
Now, what else has happened is the rats smelled the fucking rawhide.
And so they would say, hmm, it smells like there's something to eat.

(48:36):
So then they would go start eating it.
And after I think it was like two days, the guy was almost completely gone.
Now, I also looked into this just a little bit because I was like,
what the fuck? I also hate rats.
I think they're disgusting. disgusting and if if i
seen one right now the show would stop immediately and
probably not pick up for a couple days because i would have

(48:57):
this whole place burned to the ground i'm terrified
of rats dude like just it's not even
it's not okay so this part of the story just makes me
like want to vomit but there is
a lot of proof that rats do they will eat people there's a bunch of different
like stories that back it up and and like you know in in like 2017 like some

(49:20):
girl in like france was attacked in her bedroom and left with like a bunch of
scars and shit like that by rats which that's.
That story in itself is pretty horrifying yeah talk about like scary yeah there's
rats that have been known to break into like cemeteries and they'll like chew
up bodies anyway they eat
people that's all i'm trying to say disgusting now

(49:41):
so he that was
to me his most creative one is most like crazy one now moving
on 1976 de mayo the guy who's
doing these hits for actually became a made man he you know
dream come true that's what he'd been fucking working at boom now
he's a made can you describe for the

(50:02):
listeners okay including myself yes what is going to make you a made man like
is there somebody is there one of like the the don carleone's like dub the a
made man like are you part of
the gang now is that what it is yeah so once you're once you're a made man
it's it's pretty much like you're you're untouchable right

(50:24):
like you know all the the the mafia
families and stuff like now you're brought into the the
like og status right like you and there's rules that that have to be followed
but and they all got to like vote on it and then they'll say like if anybody
disagrees with this like you got to let us know you know they'll send out a
thing to all the like the the family heads and shit and you have to be italian

(50:46):
like you you You cannot be a made man unless you're Italian.
Okay. Keep it real. Yeah. Okay. So it's very specific guidelines because the
way I've heard the phrase before, but I didn't know how –.
You know how specific it was so this is this is good now
i know that you know you're like
in the inner circle like you're in it like you're because he

(51:09):
was already you know a mob man he was already kind of working and
doing stuff for the mafia and kind of like a lead you know
big guy but he wasn't a made man you know gotcha no
i just like celebration yeah yeah the idea that okay like
it is like a kind of dubbing you know i
dub the amazing like that makes sense because
i thought thought it was just almost like the you know like like a financial

(51:29):
status or you know but i
didn't know that there was a very you know very specific
set of guidelines to bringing somebody
into the point of being like an untouchable yeah yeah
it's yeah they gotta they gotta like decide and again you'll
watch goodfellas it's it's you'll you'll learn so much it's
just the greatest and i'm actually gonna watch it again tonight in spanish

(51:52):
so because i just am working on my spanish again papa de nero papa what's it
what's it called in uh in spanish buenos muchachos buenos muchachos okay i thought
maybe but i like it yeah you're right which i like better way better.
Next tattoo so so this guy dude he remember he was already unhinged you know he was already

(52:19):
kind of psychotic and and this was a mistake honestly
and you know looking back the way he
got in was one of the the big you know
mob leaders passed away and you know
wanted to keep kind of that leadership role in the family
and so his brother stepped up and his brother was
not very good at running shit and one

(52:40):
of the biggest mistakes he made was making de mayo
a made man because de mayo and his
crew just became super unhinged
i mean there was just way more drugs way
more cocaine you know now he was like killing people just at
random it was just off the charts because
you took a guy that was already kind of on the edge and now he's

(53:01):
got a lot of money coming in and he feels like you
know he can't be touched and yeah you got that blank check yeah yeah
exactly exactly now him fucking
killing all these people and making all these mistakes makes richard saw
this and one of the things he picked up
from it though was like he's like man like how
careless is this guy being and it made him think i need to find a way to not

(53:24):
be careless i need to get smarter about how i kill people and so he started
getting interested in cyanide like poison okay yeah and the first time he one
of the first times he uses this is he actually got hired to kill another mob guy.
This dude was, I forget what he actually did to get on their radar,

(53:46):
but he kind of knew he was on the radar because he always walked around with like two bodyguards.
He was always paranoid. He knew something was going on.
Okay. And he was never alone, but Richard saw that the one time he was alone-
was when he was on the disco when he was like fucking getting his fucking dance on. Right. Okay.
And so Richard like stakes this place out and he's like, you know,

(54:10):
watching him dance and all this shit.
And in Richard's mind, he's looking around at like, how can I get away with
this? How can I sneak in there?
And so Richard spots a couple of gay guys sitting at the bar and in Richard's
fucking world, he's like, ah, nobody's paying attention to those gay guys. I know what I got to do.

(54:30):
So so he goes and gets
a whole new outfit right and just
fucking dresses like himself head to
toe with the you know the colorful fucking
in in his mind what a gay guy should be
dressing like back then right okay and yeah

(54:51):
and so he goes in there he's all right in he's
six foot five 380 pound pink disco ball yes looking he had a pink and yellow
suit gentleman yeah and a big red hat and platform shoes and a fro that he fucking
bought he's the master of disguise dude man.

(55:15):
So he starts getting out on the dance floor
man and he's he's getting all swishy that's
what he said he said i was i was i was acting swishy i
don't know what the fuck that means but when he
passes by this hit he takes his syringe out and hit like bumps into the guy
and injects him with the cyanide and walks off a couple minutes later the guy

(55:38):
falls to the floor and they rule it as a heart attack wow yeah i mean you gotta
hand it to him that's pretty fucking
badass hey did you guys see
where that big dumb gay polak went i
think he might have had something to do with it i don't
know what he was trying to hide he was obviously a big dumb gay polak that was

(56:01):
rubbing up little johnny over here and now johnny's dead like no we didn't see
him blended right in he just you know we don't we don't pay attention to gay
guys he's a six foot 7'7",
400 pound but he's like, yeah, but he's gay. I didn't see shit.
You call me gay? You call me gay? I didn't see nothing.

(56:21):
He blocked out the sunlight when he walked. And I don't see nothing like that.
I'll see gay people. I don't care how big they are. I'll see him.
Fucking Richard is right. Holy smokes, dude.
Once again, he is banking on the world's discriminatory look towards gay people.

(56:42):
And he was right. He was right.
Maybe. Or maybe people just didn't see or didn't pay attention to anybody in
there because they were all doing their own fucking thing.
You know maybe like maybe like he
looked over and saw two gay guys he's like ah nobody's looking at them
well nobody's looking at fucking anybody like everybody's looking
at their own shit you know motherfucker like it's the world

(57:03):
is as you perceive it right it's so horrible but
it's so funny like that is just that's just
fucking like him getting swishy he's probably doing
like some boogie night shit you know dude staying
alive was probably on i hope staying alive was on when i fucking
stabbed him with fucking head oh my god

(57:25):
he's like yeah you ain't staying alive nothing oh man
oh my god fucking poetic chef's
kiss well done so after he does
this i want to introduce you know richard actually
meets a guy that ends up being this guy's got
the coolest character in this whole fucking thing right so richard's

(57:45):
on his way to do a hit and he's staking this place out and
he's in an elevator and he sees another guy in there and he says that he got
hitman vibes right that he's like looking at the guy he's like i got fucking
hitman vibes from i don't know what it was but you know the guy's kind of looking
at him he's sizing them up they're sizing each other up and they're like i don't
know i don't know so then they run into each other again in the bathroom.

(58:07):
Right and they're looking at each other doing the same thing like you tell they're
like kind of sizing each other up like you know the fuck is this guy doing here
like what the fuck you look you know like you look the same as me like i don't
know you look kind of kind of kind of swishy and and he just says he's like
i feel like that guy was a hit man i don't know well
a couple days later richard has said that same building he's like outside staking it out,

(58:30):
and he hears like a fucking a softy truck like an ice cream truck and you know richard's like
i fucking love ice cream i want to go get something you know before i murder uh
and so he goes up and he goes to
order some fucking ice cream and it's the fucking guy
that he ran into the previous time it's that fucking guy he's
in the fucking uh the softie dude he's run into himself he's gotta be his name

(58:53):
right here this is crazy because then they're just like he's like oh my god
you're a fucking hit he's like yeah you're a fucking hit like now they're like
all right let's just cut the bullshit who are you here to fucking kill is it
this is mr mrs smith or some shit this is well have you ever seen Friday.
You know what? I haven't. God damn it. Well, there's a, there's a kid. Yeah.

(59:14):
I'm gonna give you a list, but there's a guy called big worm and he,
he runs like, he's got like an ice cream truck, but he like sells weed out of
it. It's fucking hilarious.
And the first time, like when I'm, when I was reading this, I was like,
God damn big worm, you know, Robert Parney is the big worm of the fucking sixties.

(59:35):
It well now so now that they know each other are are
both doing the same kind of work they're both hitmen they start
fucking hanging out they're like friends okay and they actually showed each
other like a bunch of cool shit so like robert would show richard like how to
rig a car and you know richard would show him his rats like it was a very you

(59:56):
know forest and jenny kind of media yeah
yeah match made in heaven this is this is it's cute everyone deserves love.
And and so this guy was like ex special forces and he was just like kind of crazy like he just,
apparently richard described him as like just a guy that figured out he loved
killing people and he was a little little off kilter and and not right in the

(01:00:19):
head richard it's really funny to me that he like describes these people that
way when he in fact is murdering a fuck ton of people yes.
It's just kind of yeah very
much so but this ended
up being like one of his his friends like one of his only like friends
which you know whatever i guess everybody gets to have

(01:00:40):
friends it's good for him but there's another
band that pops up here called his name was george maliban now
you remember richard had the porn uh
hustle right okay yep so maliban
maliban gets kind of into this
work with him and that's how they met and then he soon after that got into some

(01:01:02):
shit with the mayo now he kind of goes to richard to help him out because he's
like well richard worked for the mayo you know he'll fucking help me and richard
had no interest in that he's like i'm not I'm not fucking you dig your own grave.
You deal with your own problems.
Well, they were in the car together and Malibu tries to kind of like backhanded, like threaten them.

(01:01:24):
And he starts saying shit like, oh, man, like, you know, I'm just saying,
like, if I was you, I'd help me because, you know, not that anything would happen.
But like, I know where your family lives. Yeah.
Thank you i was like are you wait a minute like you know the guy and you say
that shit yeah that's not really a way that you're gonna get me to help you,
fuck no at that point richard's just gonna try to

(01:01:46):
kill you would be my guess yeah try
being a word that doesn't even need to exist in this situation no
because he pulls over and shoots him five times in the head as soon as he says
that wow okay and richard actually admits that he was like pissed off at himself
for like losing his temper like that because not because he killed the guy but
But because he couldn't hear anything for like hours because he shot the gun

(01:02:09):
in the car. Okay. Fucking tinnitus.
Shit sucks, dude. So he kills him.
You don't say that. Why would you say that? That is so fucking stupid.
You know who you're sitting next to at this point.
Yeah. You know the guy. It's not like you fucking don't. That's why you're in the car with him.
There's literally next to richard's feet

(01:02:30):
is two paper bags full of penises that
he's ripped off of men the smell of
dick in the car is overwhelming it's overwhelming
and you're gonna threaten
this man so much dick stench
probably got to him
would be my guess finally just like god you open a a window or i'm gonna fucking

(01:02:53):
kill your family and i don't even care shoot me i can't stand it why are there
so many dicks and bags in this fucking car richard what the is wrong with you
just shoot me i can't do it that was a mercy kill yeah.
Oh man so so what

(01:03:15):
he does with this guy so he he fucking got to
get rid of him and this guy was a big dude right i mean he wasn't richard big
but he's big and and we're gonna start getting into the downfall
this is this is how richard gets caught okay or gets
on the radar at least because he puts his ass in
like a big 50 gallon drum but like
later on the body was found because the end you're

(01:03:36):
like you know he's got all these crazy disposal fucking things
and then this guy just shoves him in a drum yeah so when
they find him they talked to the guy's brother and the brother
was able to say hey the last guy
he was with was was richard so now now he's on the radar with the cops lazy
yep getting fucking lazy well around this time that he's on the radar he had

(01:03:57):
gotten like a group of guys together they're doing some like petty theft jobs
like he just you know he's still doing his thing right he's still being fucking
him he's he's a he's a hustler right,
and one of the guys name was percy now while they're doing these fucking jobs percy gets
arrested and in order to you know kind of get himself out of trouble he agrees

(01:04:19):
to flip on fucking everybody yeah real true small man oh you ain't fucking lying,
And so he agrees to flip on Richard and fucking all the other guys, too.
So they, you know, Richard, all these cops start fucking. I mean,
the heat kind of turns up and word gets around to Richard.

(01:04:39):
Not that Percy was ratting on people, but that, you know, cops were looking
at him. Nobody knew Percy was a rat at the time.
OK, so he's still ratting. He's still ratting. They let him go.
And he's just. Oh, so he's like a CIA at this point.
Yeah, yeah. Pretty much like he's just fucking living his life out there.
They're acting like he ain't doing shit when really he's fucking telling the cops everything. Okay.

(01:05:01):
So Richard gets them all in a room together, like all the crew that he had doing all these jobs.
And he tells everybody, and I know you've seen The Departed because we've talked about it before.
But this always reminds me of that scene in The Departed where,
you know, he tells everybody not to leave.
Oh, okay. Because the same thing happens. He like puts them all,
he gets them all in this hotel room. He's like, don't fucking leave. Nobody leave.

(01:05:21):
Well, one of the guys, this guy's name was Gary. He's like, I'm fucking leaving.
I want to go see my daughter. her i'm not fucking staying here well that
tells richard okay you're a fucking informant so he
fucking kills him right he goes with his old uh cyanide
thing and fucking puts it like in
his food and fucking i guess
it didn't work so they actually had to strangle him but yeah he

(01:05:45):
wasn't he wasn't really like perfect for the cyanide he just like
it was like here here's a cyanide sandwich the guy ate it and he's like this
tastes funny and he's like well i'm just gonna strangle you what's puts in a
spray bottle like he's a cat why are you spraying me he's like shut up god damn
it get over here so i can strangle you aren't you supposed to be dead like what.

(01:06:12):
Oh my god so at this
point man like things are crumbling like he's he's
got to kill his own guys like he's fought he knows people are
talking he doesn't know exactly who so he just like starts often everybody that's
like in his circle you know all the people in that crew he actually goes to
the physician that hooked him up with the cyanide beats him to death with tire

(01:06:34):
iron oh my god yeah goes again for the 50 pound drum 50 gallon drum,
and actually puts this guy in a drum that's next to like one of his favorite delis,
and he would randomly go order a sandwich and sit on the fucking 50 gallon drum and eat,
Jeez. Yeah. So he was just not giving a fuck anymore, right? Yeah.

(01:07:00):
And I think it was towards the end. Like I said, we're getting to the end of
it, and he's just like fucking, I don't care. He's being lazy. He's being careless.
And then his chance to get back at DeMeo comes up.
And we were taught about this when DeMeo first met him. He bashed him in the
face, beat the shit out of him. Yeah.
Well, DeMeo was getting into hot shit with the rest of the mob.

(01:07:20):
Job. He was, like I said, being crazy, killing everybody.
And he kind of knew that he was pushing the limits because he actually planned
on faking his death at some point, having his son kill him and just kind of go off the grid.
Now, there's not a lot of details. There's a lot of people that argue that Richard
didn't kill him, that it was his own crew that shot him. He was shot multiple times.

(01:07:44):
There were shots to the back of his head, his hand.
And a lot of people say his crew got it like it
was an inside job okay richard says no
no i was there i fucking did it and then
a lot of people that kind of believe richard you
know the male was found like partially frozen in the
back of his in the back of his truck or his car i'm

(01:08:04):
sorry it's the truck with like multiple shot wounds to the
head and so it's it's you know the
frozen thing i mean richard been known to do that so they were like maybe
maybe not but again i go back to why fucking lie about it
he doesn't seem like he's a liar correct
right i just giving you all sorts of
other evidence that could be corroborated why yeah

(01:08:27):
that doesn't make sense oh but you
know so now i said he's on the he's on the radar laws looking at him they actually
start a operation ice man to get undercover and fucking get this guy and i will
say this name wrong but special agent Dominic Polifrone was the one to go undercover.

(01:08:48):
I think I said that right. Polifrone, Polifrone. Fuck. I don't know which Richard
calls him a jive ass blowhard, but.
In his fucking bell bottom suit.
Yeah. So. Job ass turkey. So this guy, job ass, I'm going to say that to somebody.

(01:09:12):
Job ass blowhard. Did I just go back in time?
So this guy eventually gets close enough to Richard being undercover.
And he, you know, is kind of hired. He's trying to hire him to do a kill.
And he's hiring Richard to kill a undercover cop. Right.

(01:09:33):
And now why he's talking to Richard, he's recording it, obviously.
And he, you know, Richard asked him
like, well, hey, like I'll do it and describes how he's going to do it.
But one of the things was like, you have to provide me with some cyanide.
Like, that's how I want to do it.
So special agent shows up, he gives it to him, he records conversation.
Well, I guess Richard had like kind of a funny feeling about it because,

(01:09:54):
you know, he's a Javis blowhard.
And so Richard goes for a walk and he tested out on a dog.
Right he like gives something to the dog and the dog's like thanks motherfucker
and then like walks away nothing happens and so then he was like he kind of
started getting like real paranoid he was like what the fuck because then I think he thought,
something's going on yeah and he was right because a couple hours later he was

(01:10:16):
pulled over and arrested,
While his lovely wife was in the car, I'm sure she was probably stoked.
Oh, he was with her. Okay. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They were just on a family trip,
probably going to Disneyland or some shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to stop in and shoot a guy with some cyanide before we go ride the teacups.
That sounds like a Richard sort of thing.

(01:10:38):
Did I mention that? Did I mention that they loved Disney World?
No. That's actually. Okay. So side note before we, I mean, we're about to wrap
it up, but he actually, they loved Disneyland. Like they fucking went there all the time.
Like that's, there's a part where it's talking about like how,
when he was there, like he was just a different person.
Like they would stay out there all fucking day.

(01:11:00):
You know, he wasn't like yelling or arguing or being like his,
you know, normal, just like piece of shit self.
It was just, he didn't have to like beat himself to not hurt his kids.
Like he was just having a good time.
So yeah, he should have just lived there like mickey mouse was his
thing but that didn't
happen he did get arrested he did get two

(01:11:21):
life sentences plus 60 years again i know we love that
and 20 years into his sentence he
was diagnosed with like kawasaki disease okay so
i'm sure you're like when you like have to ride a motorcycle and
if you don't you die exactly it you nail in
the head it's like if you see a harley you're like what the fuck is that like i
can't i can't be around it yeah start vomiting

(01:11:44):
yeah you start getting inflamed and shit like and so
and so this this had so he had to transfer to a hospital for this and like he
was still you know obviously arrested but like while they like took care of
him he was there and he actually died in 2006 from a heart attack at 70 years old now Now,

(01:12:05):
here's the thing about that before we go done.
So there was a case that he had admitted to on this documentary,
and it was the killing of a police officer named Peter Calabro.
He had shot him with a sawed off shotgun, and he said he was paid by Sammy the
Bull, which was like a mob head.

(01:12:27):
And he was like a Gambino crime family soldier. And he basically said, yeah, he gave me the gun.
He fucking paid me off. I fucking shot this cop. well sammy
the bull was already serving like a
20-year sentence for for drugs okay and
so then the cops come to him they're like oh hey thanks to this fucking documentary
we know that you murdered this cop too so what we're gonna do is either fucking

(01:12:50):
add a bunch of time to your sentence or we can make a plea deal and you can
flip on some of your fucking little mafia buddies and And we'll just pretend this never happened.
Well, Sammy the Bull said, no, I'm not going to do that. He denied everything,
said I'm not taking no fucking plea deal.
And the charges were later dropped when Richard died from that heart attack.

(01:13:12):
Now, what a lot of experts believe is that Sammy the Bull had Richard killed
with cyanide in jail, and that's what gave him the heart attack. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. Because, I mean, you think about it, man. People were not happy about
this shit. Like, people that were still in the mob and still doing hits.
Like, when Richard came out and did all these documentaries and was talking

(01:13:33):
to all these people, they're like, what the fuck, dude? You know?
Yeah. Shut the fuck. Like, we're still working. Like, what are you doing? Yeah. No.
That did occur to me. but i mean he's also a guy that doesn't give a shit about
anything right no not at all and i'm sure he didn't give a fuck about that like
yeah i mean let's be honest if you know you're in jail.

(01:13:53):
You're suffering from this disease like you eat a cyanide sandwich you're probably
like fine whatever yeah like i don't give a shit it's kind of man it is it's
so frustrating when you hear this guy's lived to like 70 years old and he probably
didn't i don't know how long how long.
Did he spend in prison when did he die so he died

(01:14:13):
at oh when did he go in oh good one
i think he only spent 15 years yeah okay
that's still a good chunk of your life i guess so what 55 he
went in okay but again it's it's
like this dude lived this lavish life
most likely committed horrible things that he arguably
enjoyed and he lives longer than some

(01:14:35):
kids that die of cancer at like eight for real like
there's no fucking justice dude like you piece of
shit that's that's absolutely true it's so it's so
frustrating to hear that you know you're somebody's like oh this guy
has a documentary made of a bottle yeah you know
just a huge piece of garbage and
that's the only time so the

(01:14:56):
people that do say like this is the only thing
i could see where when people are like oh he made some stuff up i could
see that if if he was like yeah
these people want to do this documentary and he's like oh fuck they
love hearing these like crazy stories i'm just gonna fucking keep adding
to them you know so they can keep pulling out of jail and i'll fucking keep
talking i can see that but again you

(01:15:16):
know who am i to say he fucking didn't do this shit like who you know it's stupid
to even i feel like argue about because it's the shit
he did do was crazy enough so yeah whatever yeah
no i don't i don't i've never seen the
documentary i've never seen his demeanor but i don't know you just have this
image of somebody that's just kind of a fairly stoic straightforward kind of.

(01:15:37):
Guy like you when you're when you're figuring out how to shrink wrap a dude's face in rawhide yes.
I don't think that one of your like more distinguishing character traits is
like also just a big liar.
You know, I just like to have like silly games, you know, like a wild,

(01:15:59):
you know, rat chase chase or something.
You know, it seems like it seems like he's just probably a pretty matter of fact, dude.
You know, his best friend was also another fucking murderer.
You know, you don't you don't you don't. that's not the
kind of personality that strikes me as somebody that's just also into
you know lying about shit you

(01:16:20):
know embellishing right and like the dick
in the bag was like a real thing so like what the fuck yeah that's
he's like hey i got you this guy's dick and he's like but i'm gonna
make up the shit about the life jacket like why why that you
ripped a guy's nuts off and put a dick in a bag and then
you want to like you could have stopped there but yeah you know you
did more so is that's the thing it's like either either

(01:16:41):
it's real or it's not but he's so
fucking crazy that he would make it up because that stuff's still
pretty wild even if you're thinking about it yeah so fuck
it either way it's like i'm good
i'm just gonna think he did it that's fine like fuck who do i care but yeah
i mean this was one of the ones that i was like i you know it just there's so

(01:17:02):
much and you should you know if anybody's interested like do watch that documentary
because it's really crazy to watch him be interviewed by this psychiatrist.
And there actually is a part where the psychiatrist is, and I think it was talking
about the boys in South Carolina.
And the psychiatrist like questions him, after he says like he killed him,

(01:17:24):
he's like, "'Well, do you think that maybe that wasn't a good reason to like
actually kill somebody?' And like, they're talking and he's like getting,
Richard's obviously getting kind of annoyed.
And he's like, did that upset you that I said that? And he's like, yeah, yeah, it did.
He's like, I'm annoyed with you right now.

(01:17:45):
He's like, oh. It's terrifying.
Because the psychiatrist is a tiny guy, and he's sitting at this table,
and he's trying to stay professional.
He's like, well, what would you like to do? And he's like, I don't know.
He's like, I'm not going to do anything stupid.
But yeah, you got me annoyed with you. he's like i'm feeling flush i was like

(01:18:09):
oh my god like i think he wants to fucking kill him he's like you know he's
like i'm feeling flush and that's when i know that i'm i'm annoyed and like
that was his thing if he said he was annoyed people are gonna die yes dicks are rolling,
dicks are rolling so that's the ice man yeah dicks are rolling that's the ice man,
nice little cherry on top of that one yeah fuck dudes.

(01:18:33):
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