Leaving the Corporate Grind with Derek Runnels

In this episode we discuss leaving a corporate job to live a life of intentionality centered around the home. Derek shares about work life balance, creating a functional homestead, and starting his own business. The snippets shared about systems for better time management are sure to inspire new and experienced homesteaders alike.

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Welcome to the Homesteading Collective, a podcast for those passionate about traditional living, gardening, homesteading, entrepreneurship, and community building.
I'm your host, RI Reynolds, a wife, mother, and homesteader, all by the grace of Jesus.
Thank you for spending time with me today.
Now let's get into today's episode. 5 00:00:21,283.636361902 --> 00:00:21,811.003464551 Okay. 6 00:00:21,861.003464551 --> 00:00:29,151.003464551 Derek Renolds is a homesteader entrepreneur, craftsman. 7 00:00:30,186.003464551 --> 00:00:43,176.003464551 Most importantly, my husband Today, we will be discussing his story of leaving the corporate grind to start his own business time and project management around the homestead. 8 00:00:43,476.003464551 --> 00:00:51,936.003464551 Building on your own using salvage materials and why this lifestyle is important to us. 9 00:00:52,56.003464551 --> 00:00:57,276.003464551 So, Derek, can you go ahead and. 10 00:00:58,476.003464551 --> 00:01:06,446.003464551 Introduce yourself, like kind of just tell us, you know, what you do and your story, how you got there. 11 00:01:06,716.003464551 --> 00:01:07,286.003464551 Go ahead. 12 00:01:09,866.003464551 --> 00:01:14,1.003464551 So my name is mm-hmm. 13 00:01:14,81.003464551 --> 00:01:22,256.003464551 And I feel like I've been a lifelong carpenter. 14 00:01:22,586.003464551 --> 00:01:24,236.003464551 I've just never capitalized on it. 15 00:01:24,596.003464551 --> 00:01:26,241.003464551 So like my dad was a. 16 00:01:26,651.003464551 --> 00:01:31,121.003464551 He worked in a cabinet shop and my grandma's been a carpenter her whole life. 17 00:01:32,231.003464551 --> 00:01:36,911.003464551 And my grandpa also on my dad's side was a carpenter as well. 18 00:01:37,631.003464551 --> 00:01:40,351.00346455 He still is, doing carpentry work in his garage. 19 00:01:41,251.00346455 --> 00:01:49,51.00346455 And I have, it's just carpentry's been interwoven into my both sides of my family for a few generations. 20 00:01:50,281.00346455 --> 00:01:53,191.00346455 And so I feel like it's always been there, but I just never really. 21 00:01:54,121.00346455 --> 00:02:03,841.00346455 Capitalize on it because society tells you to get a job and pay your taxes and, and do the right thing and chase the American dream. 22 00:02:04,621.00346455 --> 00:02:10,201.00346455 And so that's what I've always thought was the right thing to do. 23 00:02:10,741.00346455 --> 00:02:22,321.00346455 And then just working for a few years into that, it started getting, I just felt constricted by. 24 00:02:23,446.00346455 --> 00:02:35,446.00346455 Society, the societal norm of life, and it was affecting home life and affecting the people that I love the most. 25 00:02:35,596.00346455 --> 00:02:38,886.00346455 And so I just had to get out of it. 26 00:02:40,296.00346455 --> 00:02:47,806.00346455 And I started, started, not necessarily started my own business, but I started, working with a guy. 27 00:02:47,881.00346455 --> 00:03:00,571.00346455 I did start his own business doing wallpaper, and that was kind of a leap of faith because it was gonna be making a lot less money and, but it was gonna be free. 28 00:03:01,831.00346455 --> 00:03:05,971.00346455 And so we did that. 29 00:03:06,421.00346455 --> 00:03:14,976.00346455 And then it ended up being, he didn't have enough work and so I had to do something and so I fell back on. 30 00:03:15,976.00346455 --> 00:03:18,276.00346455 What I knew the best, which was carpentry. 31 00:03:18,276.00346455 --> 00:03:25,646.00346455 And now I'm running my own business, aside with, I still work with the wallpaper guy, but now it's running my own business. 32 00:03:25,646.00346455 --> 00:03:40,856.00346455 And in that time it's been able to give me a lot more free time in my schedule and I can plan everything, plan my whole life around being able to take care of the homestead and work there and get that. 33 00:03:41,471.00346455 --> 00:03:46,691.00346455 More functional and, and actually producing some, a little bit of income. 34 00:03:46,691.00346455 --> 00:03:48,731.00346455 So that's, or at least paying for itself. 35 00:03:49,781.00346455 --> 00:03:51,701.00346455 Um, so that's been a huge blessing as well. 36 00:03:53,381.00346455 --> 00:03:54,191.00346455 Yeah. 37 00:03:54,321.00346455 --> 00:04:06,531.00346455 For reference for everybody, Derek was a truck driver, so, um, definitely, and, and he worked for like a major corporation, so. 38 00:04:06,861.00346455 --> 00:04:10,581.00346455 Definitely felt like they just owned him. 39 00:04:10,781.00346455 --> 00:04:12,851.00346455 Do you agree with that, Derek? Yeah. 40 00:04:12,851.00346455 --> 00:04:33,731.00346455 I mean, just if you're in that corporate world and in this job where you're working like 60 plus hour weeks, there's just something about like the dynamic there where they truly believe that like your sole purpose is to like fulfill their orders. 41 00:04:35,831.00346455 --> 00:05:00,571.00346455 Which is so silly now to think about like we completely operate on our own independently as far as like, you know, Derek, like you make your schedule, um, and if you have something like let's say I have an appointment, you have the ability to say like, no, I'm not going to schedule work that day. 42 00:05:00,991.00346455 --> 00:05:18,201.00346455 And it's honestly like, I feel like hard to, to shift that mindset of like feeling like you're not, I mean, owned, it feels like you're owned by this corporation versus like being your own person. 43 00:05:19,501.00346455 --> 00:05:21,661.00346455 it's really being owned by money though. 44 00:05:22,111.00346455 --> 00:05:25,21.00346455 Like corporations have the money and so that's where you go. 45 00:05:25,651.00346455 --> 00:05:27,391.00346455 But if you can. 46 00:05:27,946.00346455 --> 00:05:33,886.00346455 If you can take that leap of faith and put it all on God, then he will provide whatever you need. 47 00:05:33,976.00346455 --> 00:05:43,456.00346455 It might not be, you might lose your truck or you might lose, you know something, but he'll always be able to feed you and take care of you. 48 00:05:43,936.00346455 --> 00:05:50,566.00346455 And if that's what you can, you can do, then you don't have to work for somebody else. 49 00:05:51,286.00346455 --> 00:05:52,576.00346455 You can work for the Lord. 50 00:05:54,241.00346455 --> 00:05:55,111.00346455 And he'll take care of you. 51 00:05:55,681.00346455 --> 00:05:56,71.00346455 So true. 52 00:05:56,281.00346455 --> 00:06:13,431.00346455 And I feel like, I mean I've said this so many times, but we were in such a season of when we were living within that, owned by the corporation world where you just can't ever see a way out of that. 53 00:06:13,941.00346455 --> 00:06:16,761.00346455 And like my vision of seeing. 54 00:06:17,166.00346455 --> 00:06:21,726.00346455 Us out of that was like, well, maybe one day you'll be like higher up in the corporation. 55 00:06:21,726.00346455 --> 00:06:26,16.00346455 Or maybe one day like you'll own your own own corporation or something like that. 56 00:06:26,16.00346455 --> 00:06:33,726.00346455 But I still always saw you as like a truck driver, and I had never allowed myself to think outside of that. 57 00:06:33,786.00346455 --> 00:06:39,696.00346455 And we hit this point where it was like, this is just not working. 58 00:06:39,696.00346455 --> 00:06:45,366.00346455 Like our life is not working and we couldn't. 59 00:06:46,416.00346455 --> 00:06:49,686.00346455 Understand like where to go from there. 60 00:06:50,196.00346455 --> 00:06:54,306.00346455 And you know, that's when we found, um, your way out. 61 00:06:54,306.00346455 --> 00:07:03,666.00346455 And that was like such a huge, that was so, that was handing it to God and being like, please take care of us. 62 00:07:03,726.00346455 --> 00:07:08,886.00346455 Because you, I mean, I think you like told me. 63 00:07:09,456.00346455 --> 00:07:13,116.00346455 You were telling me like every day, like, I hate going to work. 64 00:07:13,116.00346455 --> 00:07:14,46.00346455 I hate this job. 65 00:07:14,46.00346455 --> 00:07:14,676.00346455 I'm gonna quit. 66 00:07:14,676.00346455 --> 00:07:16,536.00346455 I'm gonna come home one day and I'm gonna quit. 67 00:07:16,536.00346455 --> 00:07:29,146.00346455 And I was just like, well, that can't happen because we have two children and you know, bills need and a mortgage and vehicle payments. 68 00:07:29,176.00346455 --> 00:07:33,586.00346455 And I mean, we can speak on that too because like. 69 00:07:34,531.00346455 --> 00:07:35,816.00346455 I think a big part of the evil. 70 00:07:35,816.00346455 --> 00:07:36,16.00346455 Yeah. 71 00:07:36,16.00346455 --> 00:07:38,551.00346455 We, we flowed right into the societal norm. 72 00:07:39,1.00346455 --> 00:07:39,661.00346455 Yes. 73 00:07:40,141.00346455 --> 00:07:41,581.00346455 Because we were working, were told Yeah. 74 00:07:41,581.00346455 --> 00:07:42,571.00346455 Working the corporate job. 75 00:07:43,351.00346455 --> 00:07:43,771.00346455 Yeah. 76 00:07:43,771.00346455 --> 00:07:49,341.00346455 I mean, you get the high payments and everything, and then you're like, oh, I need this job. 77 00:07:49,341.00346455 --> 00:07:55,191.00346455 Well, you only need this job because you're, your payments are so high going. 78 00:07:56,46.00346455 --> 00:08:00,816.00346455 Right back into the same system and mm-hmm. 79 00:08:01,176.00346455 --> 00:08:03,996.00346455 I mean, the big, not that, not that payments aren't bad. 80 00:08:03,996.00346455 --> 00:08:09,6.00346455 You can make, you can make enough money to make the payment if that's what you want. 81 00:08:09,426.00346455 --> 00:08:10,146.00346455 Yeah. 82 00:08:10,246.00346455 --> 00:08:11,291.00346455 But you don't need it. 83 00:08:11,541.00346455 --> 00:08:12,101.00346455 Don't need it. 84 00:08:12,161.00346455 --> 00:08:13,126.00346455 That's the thing. 85 00:08:13,576.00346455 --> 00:08:15,166.00346455 Not that we thought that we like needed it. 86 00:08:15,376.00346455 --> 00:08:24,556.00346455 We thought, I mean, even like a few months ago, we switched around our vehicles and just like we've been buying and selling vehicles on Facebook marketplace. 87 00:08:25,246.00346455 --> 00:08:43,636.00346455 To me that sounds so wild, because we're just, I had thought like when we had these like high payment vehicles, like, oh, we have to make these payments and we have to keep this vehicle because like, that was the dream we were fed. 88 00:08:43,636.00346455 --> 00:08:49,486.00346455 Like, you, you pay the, you know, you, once you pay this off, then you can get another vehicle. 89 00:08:49,486.00346455 --> 00:08:59,676.00346455 And it's like, well that only works if you're going into another loan and we really didn't see how things could be different until you switch jobs. 90 00:08:59,676.00346455 --> 00:09:09,846.00346455 And there's definitely been times when we've had to, like, I mean, we said for months we have no idea how our bills are getting paid. 91 00:09:09,846.00346455 --> 00:09:12,636.00346455 Do you remember that? There was, yeah. 92 00:09:12,636.00346455 --> 00:09:16,196.00346455 What was it? May, we were looking so that was, that was crazy too. 93 00:09:16,196.00346455 --> 00:09:16,616.00346455 It was like. 94 00:09:16,961.00346455 --> 00:09:22,61.00346455 If you have faith in the Lord, he's gonna put you where you need to be. 95 00:09:22,61.00346455 --> 00:09:29,946.00346455 So May was, or was it May or February when you first started? Yeah, it was, well, no, this year. 96 00:09:30,516.00346455 --> 00:09:35,916.00346455 When we didn't have any money and we were like, okay, it's time to start looking to go back into a job. 97 00:09:36,36.00346455 --> 00:09:36,516.00346455 Oh yeah. 98 00:09:36,516.00346455 --> 00:09:37,626.00346455 That was probably like a corporation job. 99 00:09:37,626.00346455 --> 00:09:38,676.00346455 That was like February. 100 00:09:38,726.00346455 --> 00:09:39,476.00346455 No, that was last. 101 00:09:39,476.00346455 --> 00:09:41,276.00346455 And I got turned down for every job. 102 00:09:41,276.00346455 --> 00:09:43,976.00346455 Do you remember I got turned down? For every job. 103 00:09:43,976.00346455 --> 00:09:50,726.00346455 And I was like this 'cause you were, because you were I've turned down for a job before Uhhuh. 104 00:09:51,296.00346455 --> 00:09:52,826.00346455 You were overqualified. 105 00:09:52,826.00346455 --> 00:09:57,866.00346455 I was like, I have the correct amount of experience. 106 00:09:57,866.00346455 --> 00:09:59,546.00346455 I have no accidents on my record. 107 00:09:59,546.00346455 --> 00:10:10,26.00346455 I was gonna go back to being a truck driver 'cause it's such a easy, high paying job and something I could work for a little bit and then quit again and not have, repercussions. 108 00:10:11,331.00346455 --> 00:10:15,771.00346455 And it was like, I applied, I think I applied for like four or five jobs. 109 00:10:16,521.00346455 --> 00:10:22,711.00346455 And not for big corporations, but like smaller, maybe family owned or small business. 110 00:10:23,251.00346455 --> 00:10:27,331.00346455 And either they just flat out didn't respond to me. 111 00:10:27,721.00346455 --> 00:10:31,321.00346455 And I think I have a pretty stellar truck driving resume. 112 00:10:31,531.00346455 --> 00:10:33,421.00346455 Like I was a supervisor at one point. 113 00:10:34,111.00346455 --> 00:10:36,781.00346455 Um, and so I don't. 114 00:10:37,216.00346455 --> 00:10:47,56.00346455 They just either didn't respond to me or they said, we're looking for somebody that is not like, they essentially told me no because I was overqualified. 115 00:10:47,56.00346455 --> 00:10:48,166.00346455 They didn't think I would be happy. 116 00:10:48,166.00346455 --> 00:10:50,446.00346455 And it's like, I'm just trying to make some money. 117 00:10:51,856.00346455 --> 00:10:52,516.00346455 Yeah. 118 00:10:52,966.00346455 --> 00:10:53,116.00346455 Mm-hmm. 119 00:10:53,356.00346455 --> 00:11:03,316.00346455 I mean, just getting turned down, turned down, turned down, and then the next month was like we were able to replenish our savings from all the jobs that came in, and it was just like. 120 00:11:04,621.00346455 --> 00:11:07,996.00346455 I feel like Lord was just like, you need to just stay where you're at and have faith. 121 00:11:08,266.00346455 --> 00:11:11,676.00346455 Have faith, and I won't let you, I won't let you fall. 122 00:11:12,16.00346455 --> 00:11:12,436.00346455 Mm-hmm. 123 00:11:13,16.00346455 --> 00:11:16,956.00346455 But yeah, I think too, like it's hard in those moments though. 124 00:11:17,536.00346455 --> 00:11:20,116.00346455 It, it was so hard in those, in those moments. 125 00:11:21,136.00346455 --> 00:11:25,481.00346455 But ultimately, like that's just life. 126 00:11:25,481.00346455 --> 00:11:27,431.00346455 Like there's going to be seasons where. 127 00:11:27,641.00346455 --> 00:11:37,831.00346455 The money isn't just like pouring in, you know? And then that now we know to kind of like, reflect on that and be like, okay, save, save for these times. 128 00:11:37,831.00346455 --> 00:11:42,241.00346455 And like during this time it might be a good time to work on the homestead. 129 00:11:42,241.00346455 --> 00:11:49,361.00346455 And, you know, we, we could have planned for that better, but we're still, we're only in our second year of mm-hmm. 130 00:11:49,601.00346455 --> 00:11:50,921.00346455 This life. 131 00:11:51,611.00346455 --> 00:12:10,661.00346455 And I mean, it has so much to teach us, but I think it's, it has taught us so much about like balancing the homestead with that business because there is ways that we can be bringing in money from the homestead to balance out those slow times, especially if you have. 132 00:12:11,981.00346455 --> 00:12:17,411.00346455 Like the surplus time to work on projects because I mean, you are a craftsman. 133 00:12:17,411.00346455 --> 00:12:19,901.00346455 Like you're able to build things and sell them. 134 00:12:20,291.00346455 --> 00:12:28,541.00346455 But I mean, we were in a season where we didn't even have the money for, to, for you to spend on materials to build something and sell it. 135 00:12:28,641.00346455 --> 00:12:28,931.00346455 Yeah. 136 00:12:28,981.00346455 --> 00:12:30,901.00346455 But it did teach us. 137 00:12:31,51.00346455 --> 00:12:42,871.00346455 And like you said, I mean it built up that reliance on the Lord because we just had to, like, we knew we couldn't go back full time. 138 00:12:42,931.00346455 --> 00:12:54,481.00346455 Like we knew that, you know, for our forever vision, if we're thinking about our family legacy, it is going to be you at home. 139 00:12:54,976.00346455 --> 00:12:58,666.00346455 Or you like built, you know, running your own business. 140 00:12:58,876.00346455 --> 00:13:01,276.00346455 But we were like, okay, just to get by. 141 00:13:01,396.00346455 --> 00:13:07,576.00346455 Should you go back into this world? And God was like, no, no, no, no. 142 00:13:07,576.00346455 --> 00:13:08,716.00346455 I pulled you out. 143 00:13:08,936.00346455 --> 00:13:10,256.00346455 I yanked you out. 144 00:13:10,256.00346455 --> 00:13:19,371.00346455 And we just kept trying and, obviously hitting a wall with it, so I wanted to ask you about. 145 00:13:20,781.00346455 --> 00:13:32,121.00346455 Speaking of time and the homestead, how do you manage? That like running your, you're running your own business now where you are. 146 00:13:32,121.00346455 --> 00:13:44,906.00346455 I mean, you're the accountant, you're the scheduler, you are the, you know, you're marketing, you are also buying all the materials for your projects and making them happen. 147 00:13:45,431.00346455 --> 00:13:51,461.00346455 And then you're also having to do for reference on our homestead. 148 00:13:51,461.00346455 --> 00:13:52,151.00346455 Derek does like. 149 00:13:53,396.00346455 --> 00:13:59,336.00346455 He takes care of all the animals and then he does all of the building structures. 150 00:13:59,336.00346455 --> 00:14:01,576.00346455 And I would say like infrastructure. 151 00:14:02,566.00346455 --> 00:14:05,446.00346455 I mean, really, I just do the garden and the plant sale. 152 00:14:05,446.00346455 --> 00:14:10,326.00346455 Like I feel like you, you make it run and I make it pretty. 153 00:14:12,186.00346455 --> 00:14:17,736.00346455 So how do you kind of balance the homestead and. 154 00:14:18,966.00346455 --> 00:14:21,786.00346455 Having all of those jobs at work. 155 00:14:23,546.00346455 --> 00:14:33,686.00346455 It really is just in seasons, like we were talking about earlier, like this month I haven't had any time to hardly work on anything. 156 00:14:33,686.00346455 --> 00:14:38,216.00346455 And so we've had a half, it's a functional chicken coop, but it's only half finished. 157 00:14:38,426.00346455 --> 00:14:42,26.00346455 And so that still needs to get finished, but I haven't had any time this month. 158 00:14:42,461.00346455 --> 00:14:45,921.00346455 But I was able to get it to a point where at least it's fully functional. 159 00:14:46,701.00346455 --> 00:15:05,401.00346455 And so if you know you're gonna have enough time to do something, like a big project that's gonna take a few days, you can either, I mean, you're in control of your schedule, so if you need to take a few days off to work on stuff on the homestead, you can't really think of it as like, oh, I'm not making money this week. 160 00:15:05,641.00346455 --> 00:15:09,511.00346455 You gotta think about it as you're creating an infrastructure. 161 00:15:10,156.00346455 --> 00:15:18,706.00346455 For your homestead to potentially bring in something, bring you food or bring you something. 162 00:15:18,796.00346455 --> 00:15:21,916.00346455 Usually, if not anything, just joy. 163 00:15:22,996.00346455 --> 00:15:24,191.00346455 Yeah, you just have to plan around it. 164 00:15:26,26.00346455 --> 00:15:28,696.00346455 You can schedule people farther out. 165 00:15:29,686.00346455 --> 00:15:33,186.00346455 You just tell people that you're busy that day and not mm-hmm. 166 00:15:33,426.00346455 --> 00:15:35,796.00346455 You don't have to tell 'em that it's another job. 167 00:15:36,456.00346455 --> 00:15:37,26.00346455 Mm-hmm. 168 00:15:38,796.00346455 --> 00:15:38,946.00346455 Yeah. 169 00:15:38,946.00346455 --> 00:15:46,836.00346455 I think that like we've kind of created our life now to. 170 00:15:49,221.00346455 --> 00:15:53,451.00346455 Like you, you are able to have a lot more freedom over your schedule. 171 00:15:53,451.00346455 --> 00:16:00,211.00346455 And you also no longer have to take jobs that like, don't align or they're too far mm-hmm. 172 00:16:00,211.00346455 --> 00:16:01,51.00346455 Away. 173 00:16:01,411.00346455 --> 00:16:05,641.00346455 Um, or like you said, you could just say like, you know, I'm busy today. 174 00:16:05,671.00346455 --> 00:16:07,51.00346455 And, um. 175 00:16:07,591.00346455 --> 00:16:17,681.00346455 The great part is like, you're your own boss, so, you know, as long as you have the resources to make that happen, then you can make it happen. 176 00:16:18,881.00346455 --> 00:16:27,761.00346455 I think that a lot of people don't, like I see everywhere now everybody wants to homestead. 177 00:16:28,781.00346455 --> 00:16:29,651.00346455 Everybody. 178 00:16:29,701.00346455 --> 00:16:33,361.00346455 I think that it's become this idyllic thing. 179 00:16:33,861.00346455 --> 00:16:45,846.0034646 But what we certainly didn't realize and have at times have really struggled with is like the time that does go into homesteading because. 180 00:16:47,151.0034646 --> 00:16:47,961.0034646 It's in the name. 181 00:16:47,961.0034646 --> 00:16:49,761.0034646 Like you have to be home. 182 00:16:50,1.0034646 --> 00:16:52,761.0034646 You have to be there. 183 00:16:52,761.0034646 --> 00:17:02,91.0034646 If like an animal gets sick, you have to sometimes drop everything because your chickens flew into the neighbor's yard again. 184 00:17:02,481.0034646 --> 00:17:15,731.0034646 And I mean, the plants like, I mean the garden, you can't just, if you've got 40 pounds of tomatoes that are gonna be ready that week, you can't just take off to the beach for the weekend. 185 00:17:16,61.0034646 --> 00:17:18,581.0034646 And we've really struggled with that. 186 00:17:18,581.0034646 --> 00:17:29,891.0034646 I would say like trying to still, like we're, I mean we're pretty, we're pretty, I would say like. 187 00:17:30,476.0034646 --> 00:17:35,926.0034646 Free, spirits in a way that like we wanna go take off to the beach for the weekend. 188 00:17:36,26.0034646 --> 00:17:41,816.0034646 And in a lot of ways, like the homestead has like really made us. 189 00:17:42,641.0034646 --> 00:17:44,861.0034646 Be like more principled. 190 00:17:44,861.0034646 --> 00:17:51,291.0034646 Like we, we have to just be a little bit better about, being here. 191 00:17:51,291.0034646 --> 00:18:00,441.0034646 And so what do you feel like about that? About just like everybody wanting to homestead, but not realizing the time that's gonna go into it. 192 00:18:00,771.0034646 --> 00:18:04,101.0034646 And like, how have we also. 193 00:18:04,326.0034646 --> 00:18:15,36.0034646 Because we used to have really bad systems to where we were spending hours a day on things like, we don't need to be spending hours a day on. 194 00:18:15,156.0034646 --> 00:18:29,846.0034646 And I think we've, we're a lot better about it now, but, can you kind of speak on that and like the time aspect of how involved homesteading can be? We, I feel like the biggest farm waster that was such a cheap. 195 00:18:31,526.0034646 --> 00:18:39,386.0034646 Well, in the grand scheme of things, cheap, was heat for the greenhouse, like, uh, for our first plant sale. 196 00:18:39,776.0034646 --> 00:18:40,706.0034646 'cause we had to move. 197 00:18:41,126.0034646 --> 00:18:47,876.0034646 It was too cold at night for the plants to be in the greenhouse, but it was perfect in the daytime. 198 00:18:48,536.0034646 --> 00:18:53,936.0034646 And so we were, we, we couldn't keep 'em all inside because they need sunlight obviously. 199 00:18:53,936.0034646 --> 00:18:54,446.0034646 And so. 200 00:18:55,601.0034646 --> 00:19:02,861.0034646 Moving them back and forth and outside and inside to the greenhouse and walking 'em back and forth with a tray full of plants. 201 00:19:02,861.0034646 --> 00:19:07,271.0034646 And when you have 500 plants for a plant sale, that's hours every night. 202 00:19:07,421.0034646 --> 00:19:12,341.0034646 It was like an hour to bring them in at night and then an hour before work to bring them out. 203 00:19:12,911.0034646 --> 00:19:20,116.0034646 And it's like, man, I spent, what did we spend? 150 bucks on a chimney and a wood stove. 204 00:19:20,626.0034646 --> 00:19:23,416.0034646 And then it, we didn't have to move. 205 00:19:23,416.0034646 --> 00:19:24,376.0034646 All we had to do was. 206 00:19:24,871.0034646 --> 00:19:29,371.0034646 Spend half an hour getting a fire going and it lasted all night. 207 00:19:29,701.0034646 --> 00:19:29,971.0034646 Mm-hmm. 208 00:19:30,271.0034646 --> 00:19:39,971.0034646 And it's like so much easier labor-wise and time-wise it was just so much nicer this year. 209 00:19:40,691.0034646 --> 00:19:48,451.0034646 And just little things like that or like figuring out if you can't afford to buy a feeder, like I built a feeder. 210 00:19:48,796.0034646 --> 00:19:51,136.0034646 For our chickens out of, fence pickets. 211 00:19:51,646.0034646 --> 00:19:56,986.0034646 That's our whole chicken coop is just built out of fence pickets, and those are super cheap. 212 00:19:56,986.0034646 --> 00:20:00,826.0034646 And I built a feeder that holds a whole bag of food. 213 00:20:00,826.0034646 --> 00:20:07,816.0034646 So we have 28 chickens and it'll fit a bag and a half of food, and that'll last all week. 214 00:20:08,116.0034646 --> 00:20:11,926.0034646 I don't have to fill it up, but only once a week and. 215 00:20:13,96.0034646 --> 00:20:13,666.0034646 The water. 216 00:20:13,756.0034646 --> 00:20:17,356.0034646 Right now we only have one five gallon bucket with those little automatic chicken waters. 217 00:20:17,356.0034646 --> 00:20:21,826.0034646 But I mean, we can go a couple days without having to feed a water 'em. 218 00:20:22,186.0034646 --> 00:20:32,656.0034646 And before it was, we were just using a little, either like a five gallon bucket cut in half so they could reach it or whatever. 219 00:20:32,656.0034646 --> 00:20:37,816.0034646 We could put water in and it was like we'd have to tip over and dump them out and refill 'em twice a day. 220 00:20:40,166.0034646 --> 00:20:40,506.0034646 So silly. 221 00:20:40,506.0034646 --> 00:20:41,546.0034646 Almost gotta be insane. 222 00:20:41,766.0034646 --> 00:20:42,186.0034646 Mm-hmm. 223 00:20:42,456.0034646 --> 00:20:42,746.0034646 Yeah. 224 00:20:42,746.0034646 --> 00:20:43,981.0034646 It was so silly. 225 00:20:44,611.0034646 --> 00:20:51,921.0034646 I mean, I can, or like we had a feeder for 'em and then it would rain and you'd have to dump out and waste that food 'cause it's all soaking wet. 226 00:20:52,251.0034646 --> 00:20:52,341.0034646 Mm-hmm. 227 00:20:52,531.0034646 --> 00:20:53,71.0034646 Refill it. 228 00:20:53,821.0034646 --> 00:20:59,221.0034646 And it's like, you gotta have a, you gotta have the right systems down. 229 00:20:59,431.0034646 --> 00:21:00,511.0034646 I mean, every system is different. 230 00:21:00,511.0034646 --> 00:21:03,781.0034646 There's a lot of different ways to do it, but you gotta have something that works for you. 231 00:21:03,961.0034646 --> 00:21:06,711.0034646 But I mean, a lot of the times it's just experimenting and. 232 00:21:07,521.0034646 --> 00:21:11,781.0034646 Failing enough times to get you fed up enough to do something about it. 233 00:21:12,381.0034646 --> 00:21:19,371.0034646 I remember like so many times that you said like, I don't want chickens anymore, or I don't wanna do this anymore. 234 00:21:20,1.0034646 --> 00:21:22,281.0034646 Um, because we just, oh man. 235 00:21:22,281.0034646 --> 00:21:23,511.0034646 The pigs and the knocking over the water. 236 00:21:23,781.0034646 --> 00:21:24,261.0034646 Mm-hmm. 237 00:21:24,267.0034646 --> 00:21:25,467.0034646 they would do that twice a day. 238 00:21:25,467.0034646 --> 00:21:32,997.0034646 And it's like how, like I didn't understand necessarily how strong they were 'cause they were tipping over a 55 gallon. 239 00:21:33,912.0034646 --> 00:21:38,682.0034646 Of water and it's like, that's like 200 pounds trying to tip that thing over. 240 00:21:39,792.0034646 --> 00:21:42,372.0034646 But man, like I had it strapped to the tree. 241 00:21:43,212.0034646 --> 00:21:43,392.0034646 Mm-hmm. 242 00:21:44,322.0034646 --> 00:21:45,882.0034646 They were still pushing it over. 243 00:21:45,942.0034645 --> 00:21:49,512.0034646 Like you guys, they're just Oh man, driving me nuts. 244 00:21:50,232.0034646 --> 00:21:55,272.0034646 But I do feel at the same time, we didn't have 'em for a super long time, so, yeah. 245 00:21:55,722.0034646 --> 00:22:18,372.0034646 I feel like if you are homesteading specifically with animals, like you need to sit down and think, how can I make this easier on myself? Like if you are going out twice a day to open up your coop and close it, get an automatic chicken door if you are filling up their feet every day. 246 00:22:18,972.0034646 --> 00:22:31,782.0034646 Get a huge feeder if you're, you know, the water, I, there's so many things that you can really like, make, make systems to make easier. 247 00:22:31,782.0034646 --> 00:22:38,202.0034646 I mean, if you're watering your garden every day, drip tape or a sprinkler, we still have water. 248 00:22:38,262.0034646 --> 00:22:38,482.0034646 Yes. 249 00:22:38,942.0034646 --> 00:22:40,137.0034646 We, every day, well we do. 250 00:22:40,137.0034646 --> 00:22:47,457.0034646 We live in the south, not lately, but, and so like, we only have to water our garden a handful of times the whole summer. 251 00:22:47,997.0034646 --> 00:22:59,287.0034646 But certainly when we live somewhere that doesn't get as much rain, we will be putting in drip tape because we're at a season now where we have three kids. 252 00:22:59,647.0034646 --> 00:23:01,87.0034646 We don't have time to spend. 253 00:23:01,912.0034646 --> 00:23:02,662.0034646 On that. 254 00:23:02,782.0034646 --> 00:23:08,362.0034646 I mean, we also don't want, we're also not 50 square feet of garden space anymore. 255 00:23:08,872.0034646 --> 00:23:09,292.0034646 Mm-hmm. 256 00:23:09,592.0034646 --> 00:23:09,922.0034646 Yeah. 257 00:23:10,102.0034646 --> 00:23:12,172.0034646 It's much 500 plus square feet of garden space. 258 00:23:13,162.0034646 --> 00:23:24,682.0034646 By all means, if hand watering your 50 square foot garden brings you joy like it did me like five, six years ago, do it. 259 00:23:24,682.0034646 --> 00:23:25,342.0034646 Go for it. 260 00:23:25,342.0034646 --> 00:23:30,472.0034646 But like we, I mean, we're, we're growing our years worth of food in our garden, so. 261 00:23:31,57.0034646 --> 00:23:34,87.0034646 We can no longer do that. 262 00:23:34,417.0034646 --> 00:23:48,997.0034646 So, yeah, I mean, just, just think about like, how can you reel in what you're doing in a way that is like cost effective because your time is money and so. 263 00:23:50,362.0034646 --> 00:23:53,872.0034646 You may think like, oh, because I think we did that for a long time. 264 00:23:53,872.0034646 --> 00:24:05,692.0034645 It's like, oh, we don't have the money to put into this, so we're just going to keep things like really frustrating and really ineffective. 265 00:24:05,752.0034645 --> 00:24:16,162.0034646 And then when you look at all the time that we spent fixing our own mistakes over and over and over again. 266 00:24:17,467.0034646 --> 00:24:18,907.0034646 I mean, that's money. 267 00:24:19,597.0034645 --> 00:24:24,217.0034646 That's, that's the money we could have spent on the bigger waterers and the bigger feeders. 268 00:24:24,217.0034646 --> 00:24:27,607.0034645 And Well, like you said, I mean, you didn't even spend hardly a thing on this. 269 00:24:28,487.0034646 --> 00:24:38,827.0034646 And speaking of that, like, can you talk more on, on that how we homestead on a budget? Because you are the Facebook marketplace king. 270 00:24:40,837.0034646 --> 00:24:44,197.0034646 I think that, that the algorithm is just like. 271 00:24:44,497.0034646 --> 00:24:47,407.0034646 So curated to your searches now. 272 00:24:47,857.0034646 --> 00:24:55,237.0034646 Um, but you are so good at finding like salvaged materials to build up our homestead. 273 00:24:55,297.0034646 --> 00:25:09,612.0034646 So can you, can you speak about how you do that? Well I'm not proud about it, but I browse a lot on my phone looking at Marketplace a lot. 274 00:25:10,272.0034646 --> 00:25:12,612.0034646 Um, 'cause stuff. 275 00:25:12,957.0034646 --> 00:25:22,677.0034646 You, you almost have to be on it a lot to find the stuff That's good, because the good stuff goes, people are on their phone way too much these days. 276 00:25:22,677.0034646 --> 00:25:31,977.0034646 And so when somebody posts something that's like $5 and it's worth 50, then it's gone in three minutes. 277 00:25:32,517.0034646 --> 00:25:35,367.0034646 And so it's, you just have to look a lot. 278 00:25:35,967.0034646 --> 00:25:37,587.0034646 You have to wait a long time too. 279 00:25:37,587.0034646 --> 00:25:40,917.0034646 You can't look for a week and expect to find what you're looking for. 280 00:25:41,607.0034646 --> 00:25:46,37.0034646 Sometimes you gotta play the long game and look and look and look and look. 281 00:25:46,847.0034646 --> 00:25:53,147.0034646 Um, that's usually how I find your birthday presence usually stuck. 282 00:25:53,147.0034646 --> 00:25:57,167.0034646 And look in my three or four weeks in advance for whatever I'm looking for. 283 00:25:57,167.0034646 --> 00:25:58,547.0034646 Mm-hmm. 284 00:25:58,598.0034646 --> 00:26:00,848.0034646 And then it doesn't come up until like the last minute. 285 00:26:02,498.0034646 --> 00:26:06,788.0034646 But, I build a lot of stuff out of pallets. 286 00:26:06,908.0034646 --> 00:26:08,768.0034646 Old pallets, 'cause those are free. 287 00:26:09,428.0034646 --> 00:26:11,48.0034645 You have to sit there and dismantle 'em. 288 00:26:11,528.0034646 --> 00:26:13,118.0034646 How are they? And take all the nails out sometimes. 289 00:26:13,118.0034646 --> 00:26:18,408.0034646 But how are they free? Where are you getting them? certain, certain businesses don't want them. 290 00:26:18,558.0034645 --> 00:26:23,208.0034646 A lot of businesses will, um, either charge you for 'em or. 291 00:26:24,303.0034646 --> 00:26:25,773.0034646 Or maybe not. 292 00:26:25,923.0034645 --> 00:26:32,493.0034645 There's a lot of businesses that you wouldn't even think of that have pallets just sitting out for free. 293 00:26:32,493.0034645 --> 00:26:50,743.0034646 Like there is a, uh, nursing home not far from our house that has pallets all the time because they get, so nursing homes and, like other like group homes and all these, all these homes or assisted living, all these homes that get, that have. 294 00:26:52,183.0034645 --> 00:27:01,213.0034645 Restaurants in them or like a food service, they all get their food from like Cisco or US Foods or a service like that. 295 00:27:01,213.0034645 --> 00:27:10,843.0034645 And so as being one of those truck drivers, everybody drops their pallets whenever they can just to get 'em out of the way and not have to deal with them anymore. 296 00:27:10,843.0034645 --> 00:27:12,763.0034645 And so if you drop them there. 297 00:27:13,243.0034646 --> 00:27:16,3.0034646 They don't have any use for 'em, and so they just want get rid of 'em. 298 00:27:16,3.0034646 --> 00:27:24,913.0034646 So they give 'em away for free, they'll stack 'em up, and then people like me or our neighbor goes and brings his trailer and brings home like 50 pallets. 299 00:27:24,913.0034646 --> 00:27:29,173.0034646 I'm not sure what he does with them, but, there's places like that. 300 00:27:29,173.0034646 --> 00:27:33,553.0034646 You can't really go to the places that you think are gonna have a lot of pallets. 301 00:27:33,883.0034646 --> 00:27:37,393.0034646 Um, if you go to a Home Depot or like a Ace or a. 302 00:27:38,488.0034646 --> 00:27:43,408.0034646 Like any type of hardware store or anything like that, they're not gonna let you take their pallets. 303 00:27:43,768.0034646 --> 00:27:43,948.0034646 Mm-hmm. 304 00:27:44,248.0034646 --> 00:27:52,918.0034646 But I found on Marketplace, they're kind of stinky, but we get 55 gallon drums for, was it 10 bucks a piece? Mm-hmm. 305 00:27:52,919.0034646 --> 00:27:58,138.0034645 Food, food grade 55 gallon drums for $10 a piece. 306 00:27:59,38.0034646 --> 00:28:02,263.0034645 And it's like, that's super cheap. 307 00:28:03,668.0034646 --> 00:28:05,558.0034645 But you just have to look, you have to look for it. 308 00:28:05,888.0034646 --> 00:28:09,538.0034646 Marketplace or, or asking around you always gotta ask. 309 00:28:10,138.0034645 --> 00:28:11,518.0034646 You can't just go up and take it. 310 00:28:12,448.0034646 --> 00:28:13,108.0034645 Yeah. 311 00:28:13,228.0034646 --> 00:28:13,438.0034646 Yeah. 312 00:28:13,438.0034646 --> 00:28:18,88.0034646 I think it's the same with like wood chips or, I mean, really anything. 313 00:28:18,148.0034646 --> 00:28:18,328.0034646 Mm-hmm. 314 00:28:19,348.0034646 --> 00:28:26,188.0034646 That I have people asking me about, like, oh, where do you get this? And it's like, you gotta just put yourself out there. 315 00:28:26,948.0034645 --> 00:28:27,368.0034645 Mm-hmm. 316 00:28:27,448.0034645 --> 00:28:40,648.0034645 And be willing to ask around, um, our friend Rick was, he was just over today and he was telling me how he, they have, I mean, they have what, almost like 30 acres and mm-hmm. 317 00:28:41,173.0034645 --> 00:28:54,643.0034646 He's trying to get a lot of wood chips and he, so he's just calling, calling companies that do tree service and he's like, Hey, come drop, come drop off your chips at my house if you're in the neighborhood. 318 00:28:55,153.0034646 --> 00:28:57,43.0034646 And that works. 319 00:28:57,43.0034646 --> 00:28:59,773.0034645 Like people wanna get rid of those. 320 00:28:59,773.0034645 --> 00:29:01,903.0034646 And so you need 'em. 321 00:29:02,233.0034645 --> 00:29:03,523.0034645 Put yourself out there. 322 00:29:03,523.0034645 --> 00:29:09,143.0034646 Take the time, look at who's around you and ask them. 323 00:29:09,143.0034646 --> 00:29:13,73.0034646 I mean, the worst worst that can happen is that they would say no. 324 00:29:13,553.0034646 --> 00:29:14,453.0034645 Um, mm-hmm. 325 00:29:14,723.0034645 --> 00:29:20,213.0034645 It's, it's just a little bit of time and effort on your part and, um. 326 00:29:20,603.0034646 --> 00:29:22,963.0034646 Free materials are pretty abundant. 327 00:29:23,383.0034646 --> 00:29:26,863.0034646 I think they're more plentiful than people make them out to be. 328 00:29:27,163.0034646 --> 00:29:37,393.0034646 Um, also, like most people I know who are really homesteading, like things are not that pretty. 329 00:29:37,783.0034646 --> 00:29:40,123.0034646 Um, what's pretty is like mm-hmm. 330 00:29:40,603.0034646 --> 00:29:45,13.0034646 Seeing the beautiful, like flowers in the garden and seeing your kids like. 331 00:29:45,823.0034646 --> 00:29:55,753.0034646 Play in outdoor spaces and seeing, you know, baby animals and whatnot, but like our structures most of the time are not that pretty. 332 00:29:56,383.0034646 --> 00:30:00,793.0034646 Um, I mean, we, yeah. 333 00:30:00,823.0034646 --> 00:30:09,903.0034646 'cause our pig barn is built out of pallets and secondhand tin from behind a Mexican restaurant that they're just gonna throw away. 334 00:30:10,623.0034646 --> 00:30:15,243.0034646 And so I brought it home and it makes a perfect roof for our little pig house. 335 00:30:15,423.0034646 --> 00:30:22,713.0034646 Because, yeah, like the, in the Mexican restaurants, they used like tin roofing on the inside for a decoration, and they were just throwing it away. 336 00:30:23,523.0034646 --> 00:30:23,613.0034646 Mm-hmm. 337 00:30:23,853.0034646 --> 00:30:25,353.0034646 And so I, it was free. 338 00:30:25,413.0034646 --> 00:30:25,863.0034646 Took it home. 339 00:30:26,703.0034646 --> 00:30:27,123.0034646 Yeah. 340 00:30:27,453.0034646 --> 00:30:28,653.0034646 I knew I could use it for something. 341 00:30:28,653.0034646 --> 00:30:30,183.0034646 I don't think we even had pigs at that point. 342 00:30:30,513.0034646 --> 00:30:32,13.0034646 No, I, I was gonna use it for something. 343 00:30:32,13.0034646 --> 00:30:36,153.0034646 You are doing that for our greenhouse too, just like you were always mm-hmm. 344 00:30:36,393.0034646 --> 00:30:37,203.0034646 Home materials. 345 00:30:37,203.0034646 --> 00:30:40,473.0034646 And luckily now, I mean, you're in a job where you're able to. 346 00:30:41,898.0034646 --> 00:30:43,968.0034646 Salvage a lot of material. 347 00:30:44,108.0034646 --> 00:30:44,663.0034646 And it's, mm-hmm. 348 00:30:44,823.0034646 --> 00:30:46,928.0034646 I mean, it's just the more sustainable thing to do. 349 00:30:47,138.0034646 --> 00:30:52,478.0034646 Not to mention old wood so much better than new wood. 350 00:30:53,133.0034646 --> 00:30:54,728.0034646 I, I mean, so, oh yeah. 351 00:30:55,598.0034646 --> 00:30:56,888.0034646 Like the rings are just. 352 00:30:57,983.0034646 --> 00:30:59,418.0034646 Way, way farther apart. 353 00:30:59,518.0034646 --> 00:31:02,63.0034646 And you can tell it's just a lot more solid. 354 00:31:03,3.0034646 --> 00:31:07,533.0034646 All the new trees that are getting planted now, well, maybe not all of them, but a lot of 'em are GMO. 355 00:31:07,533.0034646 --> 00:31:09,513.0034646 You don't even think about it because they're trees. 356 00:31:09,513.0034646 --> 00:31:15,793.0034646 It's not something that you think about 'cause you don't eat 'em or whatever, but they're genetically modified to grow faster. 357 00:31:15,793.0034646 --> 00:31:19,193.0034646 And when you're growing faster wood, it's weaker. 358 00:31:21,293.0034646 --> 00:31:21,563.0034646 Yeah. 359 00:31:21,563.0034646 --> 00:31:22,643.0034646 They're definitely less dense. 360 00:31:23,318.0034646 --> 00:31:28,478.0034646 They're definitely trying to just put together those two by four houses. 361 00:31:30,128.0034646 --> 00:31:30,188.0034646 Yeah. 362 00:31:30,188.0034646 --> 00:31:30,728.0034646 Okay. 363 00:31:31,58.0034646 --> 00:31:34,658.0034646 Well really appreciate your time. 364 00:31:34,988.0034646 --> 00:31:38,308.0034645 I have a parting question for you. 365 00:31:38,938.0034645 --> 00:31:57,713.0034646 If you were to start our homestead all over again, if you ever were to get that chance, what would you do differently? And, what kind of things would you change? Hmm. 366 00:31:58,943.0034646 --> 00:32:00,203.0034645 Well, it depends on the scale. 367 00:32:00,203.0034645 --> 00:32:12,833.0034646 So if we were to pick up and start over again, starting from scratch, we would probably shoot for the same scale size that we're at now, if not bigger. 368 00:32:13,343.0034646 --> 00:32:14,153.0034646 And so. 369 00:32:14,753.0034646 --> 00:32:21,143.0034646 It would definitely be in my mind to make everything as functional as possible. 370 00:32:21,203.0034646 --> 00:32:35,993.0034646 So for the garden space, like thinking about every space as a crop rotation space and what would be able to be rotated through that and. 371 00:32:36,953.0034646 --> 00:32:37,763.0034646 Irrigation. 372 00:32:38,273.0034646 --> 00:32:40,643.0034646 It'd have to be irrigated because I don't like watering. 373 00:32:42,473.0034646 --> 00:32:55,763.0034646 And like setting apart, depending on how much land you have, but you really want to use it very strategically, in a way that you can fit. 374 00:32:56,573.0034646 --> 00:33:00,953.0034646 Like I really like the way, 'cause we just redid the fencing for our. 375 00:33:02,273.0034646 --> 00:33:08,453.0034646 Chicken, chicken run and our pig run made the pig run a little bit smaller 'cause they had way too much room. 376 00:33:08,963.0034646 --> 00:33:11,183.0034646 And we gave the chickens a lot more room. 377 00:33:12,713.0034646 --> 00:33:14,893.0034646 Um, 'cause we added some chickens to the mix. 378 00:33:15,583.0034646 --> 00:33:27,883.0034646 But we're just creating it to be like, we could, we could cut a gate into the pigpen for the chickens and run the chickens through a huge yard whenever we don't have pigs. 379 00:33:28,948.0034646 --> 00:33:30,658.0034646 And it's just everything. 380 00:33:32,98.0034646 --> 00:33:41,968.0034646 Trying to be more functional with everything like rain barrels for watering animals and automatic feeders. 381 00:33:42,88.0034646 --> 00:33:43,918.0034646 Well, not, it don't have to be automatic feeders. 382 00:33:43,918.0034646 --> 00:33:45,418.0034646 It could just be gravity fed feeders. 383 00:33:45,478.0034646 --> 00:33:47,638.0034646 That's, that's plenty. 384 00:33:47,698.0034646 --> 00:33:49,918.0034646 And then automatic doors. 385 00:33:50,758.0034646 --> 00:33:54,223.0034646 I really like the, uh, hot wire fence. 386 00:33:55,63.0034646 --> 00:34:07,603.0034646 Or for things I was actually thinking about for our homestead here when we had that deer and running some hot wire out there for a couple nights and just doing that to try and keep her out. 387 00:34:08,173.0034646 --> 00:34:10,943.0034646 But, having a better situation for that. 388 00:34:10,973.0034646 --> 00:34:22,883.0034646 'cause right now I've got a, just an extension cord running out there and so maybe before if we were to start over I'd probably try to bury it under the ground so that way it's not. 389 00:34:24,203.0034646 --> 00:34:27,923.0034646 Just on top of the ground and ugly and tripping hazard and whatever. 390 00:34:28,223.0034646 --> 00:34:28,433.0034646 Mm-hmm. 391 00:34:28,848.0034646 --> 00:34:34,343.0034646 But I don't necessarily, I think we wouldn't do any raised beds. 392 00:34:35,303.0034646 --> 00:34:36,508.0034646 They're pretty, but they do. 393 00:34:37,938.0034646 --> 00:34:38,228.0034646 Yeah. 394 00:34:38,778.0034646 --> 00:34:39,68.0034646 Yeah. 395 00:34:39,178.0034646 --> 00:34:41,488.0034646 they last about two years before you have to replace them. 396 00:34:41,488.0034646 --> 00:34:43,108.0034646 And then, and then. 397 00:34:45,193.0034646 --> 00:34:53,23.0034646 Out, then you lose the soil because you gotta take the soil out to put the new board on and, and that sort of thing. 398 00:34:53,23.0034646 --> 00:34:58,393.0034646 So probably not no raised beds. 399 00:34:59,833.0034646 --> 00:35:03,643.0034646 Um hmm. 400 00:35:06,193.0034646 --> 00:35:06,583.0034646 That's probably it. 401 00:35:06,643.0034646 --> 00:35:12,793.0034646 Just trying to make it as functional as possible because at the scale that we're at, if it's not functional. 402 00:35:13,513.0034646 --> 00:35:17,893.0034646 Then we're wasting time doing whatever's not functional. 403 00:35:17,893.0034646 --> 00:35:21,313.0034646 Like right now, we're gonna be watering by hand here in a little, in a little bit. 404 00:35:21,313.0034646 --> 00:35:24,43.0034646 We'll have to water by hand every couple days. 405 00:35:24,103.0034646 --> 00:35:29,83.0034646 And it's like we could spend an hour watering by hand when the potatoes need to be picked. 406 00:35:29,163.0034646 --> 00:35:36,483.0034646 And if we can't pick the potatoes because we're watering the garden, then there's a chance they could rot before we get to 'em. 407 00:35:37,303.0034646 --> 00:35:40,423.0034646 So really, we probably should. 408 00:35:40,963.0034646 --> 00:35:47,333.0034646 Get some sprinklers, Function and intentionality behind everything. 409 00:35:47,543.0034646 --> 00:35:47,663.0034646 Mm-hmm. 410 00:35:47,903.0034646 --> 00:35:59,723.0034646 Just really taking the time to think through, like, what, where is this going to go? What's the system behind it? Um, I think that would just make a huge difference. 411 00:35:59,723.0034646 --> 00:36:03,838.0034646 So if you're a new homesteader, we're looking at where everything is gonna be year round as well. 412 00:36:04,568.0034646 --> 00:36:05,318.0034646 Yes. 413 00:36:05,438.0034646 --> 00:36:09,848.0034646 Oh, you gotta have a year, year round presence because Amen to that for sure. 414 00:36:10,88.0034646 --> 00:36:10,328.0034646 Yeah. 415 00:36:10,388.0034646 --> 00:36:10,838.0034646 Okay. 416 00:36:10,838.0034646 --> 00:36:15,208.0034646 Well it has been so sweet of you to spend your time with me Tonight. 417 00:36:15,538.0034646 --> 00:36:16,228.0034646 I'll see you soon.