October 3, 2025 • 6 mins
This Friday, Condoleezza Rice joins the Bold Names podcast from The Wall Street Journal to offer her perspective on the multi-domain geopolitical competition between the United States and China; Dan Wang joins GoodFellows to discuss the argument of his new book Breakneck: China’s Quest to Engineer the Future; and Elizabeth Economy speaks with a leading expert on China’s health system about how that country handled the COVID-19 pandemic and is today approaching health diplomacy globally.
Hoover Daily Report | October 3, 2025
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(00:00):
- Welcome to the Hoover Daily Report,
ideas Advancing Freedom.
It's Friday, October 3rd, 2025.
- This Friday, Condoleezza Ricejoins the Bold Names Podcast
from the Wall Street Journal
to offer her perspective onthe multi-domain geopolitical
competition between theUnited States and China.
Dan Wong joins Goodfellowsto discuss the argument
(00:21):
of his new book, breakneck.
China's Quest to Engineer the Future
and Elizabeth Economy speaks
with a leading expert onChina's health system about how
that country handled the COVID-19 pandemic
and is today approachinghealth diplomacy globally.
- Condoleezza Rice on the USversus China Hoover Institution
Director Conza Rice, joinedthe Wall Street Journal's,
Christopher Mims and Tim Higginson the Bold Names Podcast
(00:45):
to discuss the current eraof geopolitical uncertainty
with a focus on America'songoing strategic
competition with China.
On the podcast, rice Shareswhy she says the United States
needs to run hard
and run fast to win thetech race with China.
She also explains whyexecutives can no longer afford
to think of foreign policyas separate from strategy.
(01:07):
Additionally, drawing on the example
of contemporary Europeanregulatory frameworks,
the former Secretary ofStates says why in her view,
overregulation
of emerging technologiesrisks stifling innovation
and undermining competitiveness.
The podcast concludes withRice elaborating on why.
Despite the negativepossibilities associated
(01:27):
with some geopolitical
and technological risks, sheis optimistic about the future
of technology for education, healthcare,
and economic growth.
- Who's going to win the future?
Dan Wong on China's engineersversus America's lawyers.
While China displays a relentless drive
to build despite even terriblehuman costs, its main rival,
(01:47):
the United States is a more lawyerly
and free society that'sprone to stifling ideas,
both good and bad.
So argues research fellow DanWong in his new bestselling
book, breakneck China'sQuest to Engineer The Future.
For the latest episode
of Goodfellows Wong joinssenior fellows Neil Ferguson
and HR McMaster to discusswhat the future holds
for the two Cold War II rivals, as well
(02:09):
as his firsthand experienceswitnessing China's engineering
boom and draconian pandemic policies.
After that, the fellows weighin on President Trump's recent
United Nations address
and the state of thatinstitution, the likelihood
of Trump's Gaza peace plancoming to fruition, the provision
of long range tomahawk missiles to Ukraine
(02:30):
and the merits of a US militarystrike inside Venezuela
to counter narco terrorism.
- China's pandemic,legacy, politics, power,
and public health withYangjiang Huang for China,
considered senior fellowElizabeth Economy Interviews
Yangjiang Huang,
a leading expert on China'spublic health system.
To examine how China has evolvedfrom the COVID-19 pandemic,
(02:52):
the two explore China's dramaticpolicy pivots from initial
inaction to draconian zero COVID lockdowns
to sudden reopening
and analyze why meaningfuldomestic reforms
and transparency remain elusive despite
lessons from the crisis.
Huang also discusses China'sstrategic health diplomacy,
particularly how its provision of vaccines
(03:13):
and medical supplies to treatCOVID earned goodwill in
developing countries.
The conversation reveals
how US withdrawal from globalhealth institutions creates
opportunities for Chinato expand its influence
through the Health Silk RoadInitiative requiring minimal
effort to fill the vacuumleft by the American absence,
Huang argues
that the unresolved controversyover COVID nineteens origins
(03:37):
and deep mistrust between Washington
and Beijing have effectivelyfrozen bilateral health
cooperation, makingdialogue nearly impossible,
even in an areatraditionally viewed as ripe
for collaboration.
- The digital FourthAmendment on October 1st,
Hoover's Center for revitalizingAmerican Institutions
hosted the Digital FourthAmendment, a webinar event
(04:00):
with senior fellows or anS Kerr and Eugene Volek.
The session examined
how digital technologieshave reshaped the way courts
interpret constitutionalprotections against government
searches as daily lifeleaves more digital traces,
which can become digitalevidence in the course
of a legal proceeding.
Traditional legal rules oftenlag behind modern realities.
(04:21):
The conversation toucheson recent rulings,
their impact on privacy, rights,
and principles that could guidemore consistent protections
for individual privacyand data in the future.
We are in a new world
of digital evidence collection said Kerr.
The old traditional constitutionalrules often create really
quirky results whenapplied to these new forms
of evidence collection.
(04:43):
- Why can't you just pay forhealthcare out of pocket?
In a new short video forHoover's Tenal program
for fact-based policy,
senior fellow John H. Cochranexplains why the healthcare
market should look more likethe market for airline tickets.
As he argues transparent prices
and real competition couldtransform healthcare costs
and restore choice to patients.
(05:03):
Cochran identifies the need
for disruption in thehealthcare delivery market,
which would take the form
of innovative new providersoffering patients superior value
versus industry incumbents.
The problem says, Cochrane, is
that such disruptive entriesinto the healthcare market are
not possible under the current structure
of the healthcare system.
- Featured research initiativeHoover program on the
(05:24):
foundations of economic prosperity,
the Hoover program on the foundations
of economic prosperity isdedicated to producing research
that empowers citizens
and policymakers tomake informed decisions
around a core question.
What combination of institutions, policies
and regulations is most likely
to foster long-term economic prosperity?
(05:46):
- That's your HooverDaily report for Friday,
October 3rd, 2025.
Each weekday, we bringyou research, analysis,
and commentary focused onpublic policy, national,
and the ideas shaping Americansociety and government.
The Hoover Institution atStanford University is grounded in
constitutional principleswith a commitment
to sustaining the safeguardsof the American way of life.
(06:09):
Thank you for listening. Forlinks to all the articles
and interviews mentionedtoday, visit hoover.org/hdr.
- Welcome to the Hoover Daily Report,
ideas Advancing Freedom.
It's Friday, October 3rd, 2025.
- This Friday, Condoleezza Ricejoins the Bold Names Podcast
from the Wall Street Journal
to offer her perspective onthe multi-domain geopolitical
competition between theUnited States and China.
Dan Wong joins Goodfellowsto discuss the argument
(00:21):
of his new book, breakneck.
China's Quest to Engineer the Future
and Elizabeth Economy speaks
with a leading expert onChina's health system about how
that country handled the COVID-19 pandemic
and is today approachinghealth diplomacy globally.
- Condoleezza Rice on the USversus China Hoover Institution
Director Conza Rice, joinedthe Wall Street Journal's,
Christopher Mims and Tim Higginson the Bold Names Podcast
(00:45):
to discuss the current eraof geopolitical uncertainty
with a focus on America'songoing strategic
competition with China.
On the podcast, rice Shareswhy she says the United States
needs to run hard
and run fast to win thetech race with China.
She also explains whyexecutives can no longer afford
to think of foreign policyas separate from strategy.
(01:07):
Additionally, drawing on the example
of contemporary Europeanregulatory frameworks,
the former Secretary ofStates says why in her view,
overregulation
of emerging technologiesrisks stifling innovation
and undermining competitiveness.
The podcast concludes withRice elaborating on why.
Despite the negativepossibilities associated
(01:27):
with some geopolitical
and technological risks, sheis optimistic about the future
of technology for education, healthcare,
and economic growth.
- Who's going to win the future?
Dan Wong on China's engineersversus America's lawyers.
While China displays a relentless drive
to build despite even terriblehuman costs, its main rival,
(01:47):
the United States is a more lawyerly
and free society that'sprone to stifling ideas,
both good and bad.
So argues research fellow DanWong in his new bestselling
book, breakneck China'sQuest to Engineer The Future.
For the latest episode
of Goodfellows Wong joinssenior fellows Neil Ferguson
and HR McMaster to discusswhat the future holds
for the two Cold War II rivals, as well
(02:09):
as his firsthand experienceswitnessing China's engineering
boom and draconian pandemic policies.
After that, the fellows weighin on President Trump's recent
United Nations address
and the state of thatinstitution, the likelihood
of Trump's Gaza peace plancoming to fruition, the provision
of long range tomahawk missiles to Ukraine
(02:30):
and the merits of a US militarystrike inside Venezuela
to counter narco terrorism.
- China's pandemic,legacy, politics, power,
and public health withYangjiang Huang for China,
considered senior fellowElizabeth Economy Interviews
Yangjiang Huang,
a leading expert on China'spublic health system.
To examine how China has evolvedfrom the COVID-19 pandemic,
(02:52):
the two explore China's dramaticpolicy pivots from initial
inaction to draconian zero COVID lockdowns
to sudden reopening
and analyze why meaningfuldomestic reforms
and transparency remain elusive despite
lessons from the crisis.
Huang also discusses China'sstrategic health diplomacy,
particularly how its provision of vaccines
(03:13):
and medical supplies to treatCOVID earned goodwill in
developing countries.
The conversation reveals
how US withdrawal from globalhealth institutions creates
opportunities for Chinato expand its influence
through the Health Silk RoadInitiative requiring minimal
effort to fill the vacuumleft by the American absence,
Huang argues
that the unresolved controversyover COVID nineteens origins
(03:37):
and deep mistrust between Washington
and Beijing have effectivelyfrozen bilateral health
cooperation, makingdialogue nearly impossible,
even in an areatraditionally viewed as ripe
for collaboration.
- The digital FourthAmendment on October 1st,
Hoover's Center for revitalizingAmerican Institutions
hosted the Digital FourthAmendment, a webinar event
(04:00):
with senior fellows or anS Kerr and Eugene Volek.
The session examined
how digital technologieshave reshaped the way courts
interpret constitutionalprotections against government
searches as daily lifeleaves more digital traces,
which can become digitalevidence in the course
of a legal proceeding.
Traditional legal rules oftenlag behind modern realities.
(04:21):
The conversation toucheson recent rulings,
their impact on privacy, rights,
and principles that could guidemore consistent protections
for individual privacyand data in the future.
We are in a new world
of digital evidence collection said Kerr.
The old traditional constitutionalrules often create really
quirky results whenapplied to these new forms
of evidence collection.
(04:43):
- Why can't you just pay forhealthcare out of pocket?
In a new short video forHoover's Tenal program
for fact-based policy,
senior fellow John H. Cochranexplains why the healthcare
market should look more likethe market for airline tickets.
As he argues transparent prices
and real competition couldtransform healthcare costs
and restore choice to patients.
(05:03):
Cochran identifies the need
for disruption in thehealthcare delivery market,
which would take the form
of innovative new providersoffering patients superior value
versus industry incumbents.
The problem says, Cochrane, is
that such disruptive entriesinto the healthcare market are
not possible under the current structure
of the healthcare system.
- Featured research initiativeHoover program on the
(05:24):
foundations of economic prosperity,
the Hoover program on the foundations
of economic prosperity isdedicated to producing research
that empowers citizens
and policymakers tomake informed decisions
around a core question.
What combination of institutions, policies
and regulations is most likely
to foster long-term economic prosperity?
(05:46):
- That's your HooverDaily report for Friday,
October 3rd, 2025.
Each weekday, we bringyou research, analysis,
and commentary focused onpublic policy, national,
and the ideas shaping Americansociety and government.
The Hoover Institution atStanford University is grounded in
constitutional principleswith a commitment
to sustaining the safeguardsof the American way of life.
(06:09):
Thank you for listening. Forlinks to all the articles
and interviews mentionedtoday, visit hoover.org/hdr.
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