Nightmare on Elm St (2010): You die in your dreams you die for real #13

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Welcome to Horror Cinema Obsession. Here, we dive deep into the chilling depths of horror cinema.
From the critically acclaimed scares, to the laughably ludicrous,
and even the delightfully obscure.
Now, let's join our hosts, Richard and Angelus, as they share their love,
laughs, and sometimes sheer disbelief at the world of horror movies.

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Okay those are cool socks vienna they they hold hands they're magnetic they
have faces interesting interesting oh hello folks didn't know we were recording.
Those socks are wild anyways angelus
my beautiful co-host how are you

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doing novia i'm doing i'm doing okay
how are you you're doing all right ricardo guys we
lied on our instagram we didn't record friday night we
didn't nope that's effing wild we recorded we're recording right now saturday
evening it's saturday evening yeah it's not fucking wild yeah what did the freaking

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where did the day go i don't know man i don't know how are you i'm good you're good,
all right well we had an exciting day so far
we this is a good night capper for us we we had
your niece's birthday party that was exciting got wet didn't want to get wet
but it happened it happened you know it felt good it was warm i guess it was

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a beautiful day for a birthday party blazing hot the water park stuff that they
had in the backyard was cool though that Dragon was awesome,
and the kids loved that. That was awesome. Yeah.
Lucas was crazy. He was a dinosaur for half the day.
That kid was off in his own little world. He has a big imagination. Yeah, that's good.

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Reminds me of when I was a kid. That was all me. I was in my head.
We got there. I was like, hi. He was like roaring. I was like, okay, cool.
We were roaring. That was interesting. Interesting birthday party.
You know that in my thing.
Kids birthday parties but i love
you and i participate consider yourself

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lucky because other girlfriends would not have
that i would have not shown up what we're talking about
your exes on the pod nope no weird man no
i'm just saying that you you i'm going
above and beyond i'm going to like birthday parties i'm going
to family outings i'm going to family vacations baby showers
i'm an introvert man i need my own personal time but i instead i'm dedicating

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all my time with you and your family oh what's up what's up you still have your
alone time you had your alone time yesterday i know it was glorious it was glorious yeah sorry i was a.
That's the real reason why we couldn't record last night.
So I went to work. Usually I don't work that early, but I had to go to work at like 4.30.

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Didn't you pull a 12-hour shift? I don't know. We were done at about 3.
So it's just getting out there. It's just travel.
So, yeah. I mean, by the time I got here, I was riding high.
I was good. I was feeling it. I cleaned the house. I vacuumed. I was pumped.
But by the time you came hours later, I was toast.

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I was laying there. I was watching my Guilty Pleasure white collar.
Which, shout out. Dope. On Netflix.
And then, yeah, I just couldn't muster up the energy. But I'm feeling good now.
Are you feeling better? Because you kind of had a meltdown, too.
Yeah, I was tired, stressed.
Yeah. That's fine. We'll get by. Yeah, we're getting by. We've got an exciting one tonight, guys.

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Rich's all-time favorite. Yep, we're covering Nightmare on Elm Street,
a classic, The Goat, but guess what? The Goat, 2010.
It's the remake. Oh, there's people just like, oh, you fucking piece of shit.
They're excited about the original.
Anyways, let's get to it. I mean, Nightmare on Elm Street. Okay,

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before I share my initial thoughts on this movie. Oh, lordy lord.
What are your initial thoughts on this?
Masterpiece, brilliant. Give me your honest take.
Again, guys, we don't talk about this beforehand, but she's being sarcastic.
Let's hear your honesty. Not my favorite.

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Why wasn't your favorite? Because the OG wasn't there. I don't know.
Who's the OG? Ed England.
Who? I forgot his name. Robert England?
England. Yeah, I mean, that did was kind of a bummer. But, you know,
in 2010, he's getting up there in age.
It's hard to. No, I want him to be on every fucking movie. I know.

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And AI is going to make that possible. Now he's going to be making a comeback.
He's going to be like that time that they brought Tupac onto that concert.
So you didn't like it very much, huh? It's not my favorite. I don't know.
It was really dark. Oh, yeah. It wasn't entertaining.
I like horror scary or horror comedy, but like... You just don't like straight-up horror.

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I mean, what do you mean, straight-up horror? You want it to have comedy?
I don't know. I'm used to the other...
Nightmare in elm street where there was comedy like there was some scary stuff
for the time and this one there was barely freddy and when he was there he was very petty,

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petal and rapey and i did not that was not my thing petty pedo yeah pedo pedo
that was not i was i was like ew i don't this is making me feel uncomfortable
for the wrong reasons okay so this
movie my initial thoughts are different i is
this the best one no i've got
it ranked right off initially so the

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first one obviously nightmare on elm street 1984 and then
i like dream warriors i'm on
elm street three and then i do
like the fourth one a little bit but
as a series people are gonna
shit on me go ahead i'm not a
big fan these movies do not hold up they're not great so one three and 2010s

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remake for me do it your top three yes and it's because no the reason being
is i like the movies right and i like the kills i like the dream sequences They
got creative throughout the years,
but the stories weren't there.
It lacked the storytelling of it, but it was creative with the dreams themselves.

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But yeah, I don't know. I like this one. I seen this in the theater.
It was fun back in the day. People were cheering.
It was just, it was a good vibe to record. So it was cool. Nice. Yeah.
Well, this was my first time watching this. Yeah. I didn't know this existed.

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Really? No, I didn't. That's so weird. I wonder what you were doing in 2010.
I had a one-year-old. Oh, so you weren't going to movies and stuff?
Yeah. You could have been one of those parents that fucking took their kid to the movie theater.
You know what? We went to go watch. I went with a friend. She dragged me to
see, I think it was like Saw 4 or 5.

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Mm-hmm. I had seen the first one prior to- You took one-year-old Vienna?
No, no, no, no, no. Let me finish my story. Okay. I'm about to call CPS, so tread lightly.
We showed up there and rated our movie, right?
First one was pretty graphic. We showed up and there's this lady with her six-year-old
sitting up front by the aisle.

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And I was just in shock at the time. I was like, what is this kid doing here?
So before you judge that person, I...
I used to, in a previous life, in a previous relationship, there's this kid,
part of my life, from one to about seven. We are talking about your exes on the phone.

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So I took him to a movie rated R and it was Overlord.
I don't know what Overlord is. So it's a World War II movie,
but it's got like monsters.
It's a more scientific like horror twist to
it but there's a lot of f-bombs and there's a family next
to me like a guy and a girl just looking

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at me like you mother ever why would you take a kid to this i mean me i'll just
say his name dylan was stoked man we're like cheering we're laughing we're having
a good time how old was he oh dude he was five oh five or six i don't know but
again Again, some context,
we didn't really like shelter him from that stuff.

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So like he was used to it. It was like, I don't want to say desensitized,
but he was like, he got to watch stuff like that, but it didn't affect him as
long as it didn't affect him.
Like he was going to like school, you know, acting stuff out.
Kids and counseling right now. Yeah.
Watch. He's just counseling. But no, we did that.
I don't know. It was, I can't remember which one of the movies, but it was gory.

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You know, how those movies are up in your face, cutting, guts coming out of everything.
Oh, so I would never take a kid to Saw. No, I don't like that murder porn.
I don't like that shit. Yeah, it was open guts stuff.
Hostile, Saw. I was like, where? Someone covering his face. There were times where I was like, ugh.
Yeah, no, that's too extreme for me. I don't know. No, I don't think that's right.

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And that you took a one-year-old too is kind of f-ed up. I love Mad Taker.
Her first movie was Puss in Boots. We have to go support Antonio Banderas.
Puss in Boots. That didn't come out very long ago. This was a remake that just came out. Or a sequel.
She was like three, two and a half? Hot take, hot take real quick.

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How do you feel about Zorro?
I like it. Oh, you like Zorro. What do you like about Zorro?
And then, was it Salma Hayek in there with him? No, Catherine Zeta-Jones.
Oh, that's right. Mm-hmm.
Mm. What do you like about Antonio Banderas? Are you kidding me?
He was dreamy back in his days. Whoa, dreamy? Mm-hmm. He's not dreamy now?
He, yeah. Hey, man. He's in Guilt now.

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What was the, what's the Sylvester Stallone movies? The Indestructible or?
Exterminator ones or? The Expendables. Expendables. Hey, he's in that one.
Is he? Yeah, he's in one of them. Oh.
Dreamy gilf gilf ask the peoples maria would agree yeah but she also likes bruce willis,

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what's wrong with that no hey real quick vienna did you feed the dogs oh okay
how do you not starve the dogs they're on a restricted diet we're muting you out,
yeah you how do you feel about antonio banderas
dreamy not dreaming but does he make you feel things dropped my paperwork antonio

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banderas yeah i mean he makes me feel things yeah emotionally i'm moved he just
charges something in me charges you know that spanish accent huh Yep.
He makes me roll the R's the hardest.
They're not an R. They're more of a soft.
Barcelona. Barcelona.

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Okay. Well, we're getting off track here. Zorro, do you want to bring up Titanic 2?
Shout out, Kay Winslet. Oh, man. Leo.
That's an interesting story. the movie that came out well it ties to this movie
2010 that came out I believe Inception was a big movie this year that came out,

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Joseph Gore-Levitt Leonardo DiCaprio,
Yeah, Christopher Nolan directed it. That's pretty exciting.
And then the biggest grossing movie of 2010, Toy Story 3. Was that the one where
they're facing the incinerator?
I don't know. And everybody's like, it was so sad.

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They were burning them? I'm like, dude, it's a children's movie.
Is that the one with the teddy bear? I think so.
I don't know. I didn't watch it. I only watched the first one.
They're all great movies.
They have great soundtrack. remember toy story 2 was run
like the wind balls uh that was not
the first one no that was the second one did you
watch balls bull was light year just

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the movie yeah actually me and vienna did
um during the holidays not the new one the og
with the little martians i
don't know if i saw that but anyways toy
story 3 grossed 100 or 1.6 billion
worldwide isn't that crazy yeah so this movie the 2010 remake of nightmare on

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elm street the budget they got a modest budget for the times 35 million but
the budget was bigger if you remember nightmare on elm street was part
of Platinum Dunes remakes, Michael Bay's production company.
So this got the highest budget out of those, out of Texas Chainsaw Massacre,

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Friday the 13th. I think there's one other one.
I saw it had the largest budget out of all the Nightmare on Elm Street movies as well. Oh, even those.
But, I mean, 2010, the last Freddy movie that came out was Freddy vs.
Jason, and that was at 2003.

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So i mean that's a big difference so 35
million pretty good budget and this movie
despite what people are saying now it
it got about 115.6 million worldwide and and then 63 million domestically so
it did a pretty good job it was pretty successful considering all the hate it's

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getting now it's kind of split you got people in my like that feel my way like they appreciate it,
sorry i'm gonna sneeze do it
no they got people that are that appreciate it appreciate the remake appreciate
what they were trying to do but then you got those people i think it's just
nostalgia where they're like oh kind of like you oh we want the funniness we

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want this it's not robert england they just can't get over that fact and they
didn't even give it a chance i don't think to be honest,
so the fact that you gave it a chance is cool you didn't find anything in it
that you liked All right.
I mean, obviously the quality got a lot better, the scenes, the kills,

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you know, a lot more clear, but I don't know.
I guess I was just used to, I think it's more of like the old monsters that
they had on, you know, those 80s, 90s Nightmare on Elm Street. Oh.
Or I guess the way that he appeared in the dreams. Oh, I gotcha.
So yeah, a lot of people criticized the way he looked and
they weren't more of a realistic approach with a

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burn victim where a lot of people didn't
like that but the thing is they kind of
made him more cartoonish in the previous ones where he
still had a nose they went real where if you've ever seen bird victims they
did a pretty good job the only knock that i have on it is the 2010 cgi at least
what they who they hired for this didn't do the best job a lot of that cgi was

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a little bit behind if you
ask me it kind of took me out there's some scenes and
we'll i'm sure we'll point them out as we go but they could
have done a lot better and honestly i think if they
would have just went practical with his makeup i
think it would be a lot better not having that cgi to help
with the makeup well i don't think it was as effective yeah i did see that they

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were trying to go realistic burn but they also took away some of the realism
a little bit because they didn't want to turn people away and be disgusted by
like the you to make it look more realistically burnt.
They went there they almost got there because they were saying that you
know have some of the whiteness to
their face because their flesh is so in i don't anyways yeah yeah

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no and they could have went further they they really could have
but i i think where they settled was pretty good
how before we get
into the movie and discuss it more
did you find other movies that came
out other horror movies that came out in 2010 because i've
seen it's pretty extensive list here that's pretty good

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yeah there was there's a lot of stuff that
came out this year you have the reef another shark movie the
ward insidious the beginning of them
the crazies oh dude have
you you ever seen that one that's a remake george a romero movie but this one
has timothy oliphant i actually enjoy that you've never seen this remake the

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crazy is no oh man this that one might be a platinum dunes i could be wrong
on that but we gotta watch that okay yeah it's pretty good we also have the last exorcism.
I Spit on Your Grave. That one's a good one. Atrocious. This was a Spanish movie.
Mm-hmm. Which I actually, I have that on my list of wanting to watch.

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Piranha, a classic. I remember watching this one back in the day. Oh, Piranha 3D.
Yeah, and then. That one's crazy. That's a horror comedy. And then we have Frozen.
Devil's pretty good. Isn't that the one, the elevator? And that one, guess what?
You can say it. Pineapple. Oh, that's our escape word for M. Night Shyamalan.

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They don't like when I get on the tangent. But from what I remember,
I actually enjoyed some elements of it.
Not all of it entirely because he fucks up the movie at the end.
But that one, I'll give him credit for that one. Give him credit.
We also saw... Splice was good. Saw the final chapter.
Paranormal Activity 2. 3D was coming in hard this year, too. And Black Swan.

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Oh, Black Swan was pretty good. that was that was more
of a psychological wasn't it that movie is yeah hey you're
you're missing some predators that one was sick have
you ever seen that it's got adrian brody in it
it's got a machete probably what's
his name danny yeah danny trejo yeah uh he's in it it's pretty good okay we'll

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have to watch you never seen that maybe predators where they're on their planet
like they They kidnap them and put all these people on this planet and they hunt them.
I feel like I watched a few of those, but it's been a minute.
They don't blur because they're all kind of different.
They blur. You got Arnold and then you got Danny Glover in LA in number two.

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They're all a little different, man. I just remember the Predators. Okay.
My Soul to Take came out. That's another one.
Directed by Wes Craven. in frozen a survival
horror film about three friends stranded on a
ski lift i've never seen that but
could be let me in did you mention that one yeah so

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there's a ton that came out tucker and dell versus evil remember we tried watching
a little bit it's it's okay it's kind of dumb humor yeah entertaining yeah but
no that's so that was the movies that came out was Was there anything of note
that you mentioned Saw that had a big effect on you?
No, I did get around eventually to watching Paranormal too, but I didn't think

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that was great. Paranormal Activity 2?
Wait, no, is 4 the one with the girl from Abigail?
Yes, Catherine Newton. She's in 4. I remember seeing that one in theaters. Okay. Okay.
I think the most memorable was the first one because people were freaking out over this movie.

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I hate all of them. They all suck balls.
Made on shoestring budget. I'm sorry. You can't polish a turd.
And these were fucking awful.
I don't know how people enjoy them. They're not for me. I didn't like them. They're cheesy.
Yeah, once you see the first one, the rest are kind of the same suit.

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It's kind of like found footage. once you watch it the first time it
loses its luster because how do you top it you
have to top it each time you watch it and you can
only watch these movies once because you know
like it doesn't have that effect on you again where other movies can still have
that effect found footage for whatever reason at least for me it does not have

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that effect on me and then i'm like bored throughout the whole movie because
i know i'm like oh i'm just watching this kind of just Just to watch it and
get through. It's junk food. Yeah.
You know, I think that was the, yeah, definitely a lot of stuff came out this year.
Yeah, no, for horror, 2010 was making a huge, I feel like, because we cover

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a lot of years, I felt like this year, it was making a, not a comeback, but it came in strong.
Like, I think movies in general were coming in strong.
Yeah. For 2010. in 10 like you said
3d was starting to become a thing yeah
there was talks they were trying to push this movie to be 3d
well after after what was the blue people

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oh avatar yeah after avatar came in that kind of pushed it and then we rode
that for a few years that 3d 3d comes around full circle about every 10 20 years
it comes back and granted it's better do you remember Remember,
have you ever watched a 3D TV?
I feel bad for people who invested in those. Oh, my gosh. Remember when they

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were really pushing them in the stores?
Like, that's all. Like, you would walk down, and there was aisles of just 3D
TVs. They were fucking hawking that shit.
It was a ripoff. So, I had a buddy who bought one, and he's like,
dude, this is so tight. Let's watch this movie.
I watched it, and, dude, I felt so bad. I didn't say anything to him.
I'm like, oh, this is cool. but dude it

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it was the same i'm like there's nothing jumping
out this is not great and then nothing ever
really like they didn't add a lot to
it either like movies were coming out i just it just kind of died off so i feel
bad for people who spent thousands of dollars on these tvs because they didn't
last long so for me it didn't get my attention i liked going like if it happened

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to go watch a three-day movie in the theater but to pay extra you still have
to pay extra to watch that bullshit.
It was just never an interest to bring it home. Because, yeah,
you go and buy this TV, you will forever need fucking glasses.
What if you have a bunch of people come over? Are you going to have to order
glasses for all of your guests to come over and watch a movie with you?
And then did the TVs, like, you could adjust it back to 2D? Like,

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what happened? I have no idea.
See, I don't know too much enough about them, but I know my buddy was kind of
at the end of it. He was like, dude, that was such a ripoff.
I don't know why I bought this fucking TV. Yeah, it just seemed like a lot of
work and effort to watch a movie at home.
Yeah. Yeah, he had a surrounds on everything. I'm like, dude,
because he was serious about his movies.

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But I was like, ugh, I think you're premature on this one. Yeah.
Usually with technology like that, I'm going to wait a couple years,
let them work out the shit, and if it sticks, it sticks.
It's going to be around for a while. Yeah. But he was one that spent the money
when it first came out, was fucking on it. Damn. Yeah, I felt bad for him.
But let's close that tab. We love 3D.

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How do you feel about the cast? I only recognize two people from the cast.
You recognize two people from the cast? I do. I do.
And I think that's another thing for me that got in the middle of fully enjoying this movie.
It was Jackie Earl Haley.

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When watchmen came out i love that movie i watched it so many times i bought
it he's great in there warshark and so watching it that's all i heard i just
heard warshark then through the entire,
movie every time he talked i'm like yep and i could just see him picture him
in that mask from watchmen just yeah that one was good that was a pretty good

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movie which got him this this role.
Great role for him and watch him in and he did really good
here too but i don't know i just couldn't get over his character in
the other movie yeah no so from the
research i was doing he was pretty much this movie
he was acting with like kind of hands
tied behind his back because he couldn't really do a whole lot they

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weren't letting him they kind of confined him and he couldn't
really like do what he wanted to do from the sounds of it like he had to stick
to certain things they cut out a lot of things he couldn't improvise where I
think Robert Englund you gotta give him credit he improvised a lot of that like
a lot of things he was talking about and that were kind of funny was him and I think if.

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I don't think we can really fairly judge Jackie Earl Haley for his role on this
because I don't think he got the opportunity like he should have.
Where I think he's a pretty good actor. I think he could have taken this to
maybe not Robert Englis status, but I think he could have took it to that.
Added his own personal take on.

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Because that's what it's begging for. There is no flavor whatsoever.
They really doled this character down. and made him really dark, which is cool.
But if you're going to do that, you got to let this guy at least have some sort
of personality come through a little bit more.
And that was just kind of unfortunate that he didn't get the opportunity.

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Yeah, but I mean, besides him, actually, I know three people that were memorable
to me that I've seen him in other stuff.
The other person was... Wait, did you know Jackie Earl Haley was in The Bad News Bears in 1976?
I didn't know he was a kid actor. I did not know that.
Kelly Leak was his character. And I remember that movie, but I don't remember him.
Did you see that they also wanted

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Billy Bob Thornton and Steve Buscemi considered for the Freddy role?
Ugly people. They're like, who are the ugliest actors? I'd be so pissed.
They're like, who looks the closest to a burn victim? Again,
I feel like Steve Buscemi, I've known him as a comedian.
So he has had serious roles, more serious.

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Have you ever seen Con Air? He plays a pretty good weirdo in that.
I don't think that I have I think most of the stuff I've seen him it's been
comedies with Adam Sandler light hearted escape from New York he's light or
escape from LA he's pretty light hearted and then yeah Adam Sandler movies but yeah,
Yeah, not the right fit. Who would be the right fit in 2010?
I'm trying to think. I don't know.

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Who would be able to take it to the level? I think Kevin Bacon would have been
okay. Really? Trying to do it, maybe.
I think. You need a serious character actor or a no-namer that doesn't give a fuck what he's doing.
That you don't, again, like me in my case, seeing him, I just kept thinking Rorschach.

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So maybe someone who wasn't well-known.
What did you call him? Rorschach? No, it's Rorschach.
Oh. Is it not? I think it's Rorschach. Yeah, because it's like Rorschach paintings. I could be wrong.
And then one thing that I saw that was... Hold on, I'm going to Google. Are you going to Google?

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No, I'm going to 2010.
Rorschach. He was in The Long Game. Lime, Little Children, Watchmen, Shutter Island.
Rorschach. Rorschach. Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Rorschach.
Rorschach. Not Warshach. Rorschach. Roar.

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Rorschach. You're messing with me.
Oh my fucking God. He was also in Dark Shadows. I remember him there,
the driver for Johnny Depp.
He played, Johnny was a vampire.
Oh, yeah. Robocop. The Tick? Dude, you know an interesting actor would be sorry to cut you off.

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Are you still talking about Jackie Rovelli? Yeah, I'm going over his work.
So, an interesting one would be Bryan Cranston.
Let me see. I think he could, from Breaking Bad.
I did not finish watching that show. But you know the guy I'm talking about, right? No.
Bryan Cranston, lead character who was making the math, the teacher.
He was making, oh, wait, Breaking Bad?

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Yeah. Is that when they escaped prison?
No. What?
Prison Break. Walter White, dude. Walter White?
Yes, I did watch Breaking Bad. William Dafoe. He would have been a good one.
Let's see, who else do we got? Paul Dano, although relatively young.
I think he would have been decent.

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Sam Rockwell, maybe? Nah. No. I think he could improvise, though.
He could improvise, but he's too well-known in other things. I don't know.
I don't know. Yeah. I don't know who could have done it.
Because a lot of these guys, you've got Woody Harrelson, Matthew McConaughey, Benedict Cumberbatch.

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Tom Hardy would have been an interesting one maybe I don't know,
Paul Giamatti And then we have I didn't know I mean I've only watched a couple
Episodes of Narcos Mexico He was in there too And then Alita Battle Angel That
was an interesting movie too Yeah,

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Dude Joaquin Phoenix might have been a good Good one I don't know.
They could have went Al Pacino I think Jackie, he could have been good if they
had given him more freedom to play with the character.
No, yeah, I think they're on the right track with him.
But yeah, they didn't give him the fair opportunity. But yeah, he has a lengthy career.

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He was in Shutter Island, too. That was cool.
Have you ever seen that one? Yeah, with Leo. Yeah.
And what's his name? He plays the Hulk. Yeah, Ruffalo, Mark Ruffalo.
Yeah, so I think they're on the right track with him. They just should have
given him a little more freedom, a little more trust.
Our lead actress here, Rooney Mara, I thought she did pretty good as Nancy.

(31:09):
I forgot she was in this movie. Where I do recognize her is The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
She plays the girl with the dragon tattoo.
Okay. The weirdo. Have you ever seen that one?
No. It's got 007 in it.
God, what's his name? I know what you're talking about, but I can't remember
his name. God, we're terrible. Oh, my God.

(31:30):
Listeners, if you're hanging in there, guys, I think we have,
what's that, Alzheimer's?
We have something going on, man. Lou Gehrig's disease. I don't know what's happening to us.
But no, she played good in that.
And then other than that, she was in a movie called Her, A Ghost Story,
and Carol is what I gathered.

(31:53):
Okay and then we have our scream king i'm gonna
label him that scream king scream king dude
he is he plays quentin in this movie kyle galliner
and if you remember the movie
he was on previously that we covered jennifer's body
yeah that's where i recognized him from and he's in
the cleansing hour we watched that he's in

(32:16):
a couple other ones so he's in the haunting of connecticut i
remember him in that he was he was just getting started he was
young he was in a movie i don't recognize dear white
people the show or the movie the movie
i guess okay i watched the show oh maybe it's
a show i don't know and then he's also an american sniper which
i that was with bradley cooper i believe i don't think
i've ever seen that i didn't i was at one point

(32:38):
on my watch this but i didn't get around to but would you
would you consider him a scream king i think he's pretty good i
like this guy I would he he was
also in scream what scream the
TV show or what I think it was a TV show
he was also in smile hmm oh I
don't remember this and in strange

(33:02):
darling which looks like it was a TV show hold.
On and he's going to be in smile too Kyle Gallagher was yes what character in
smile oh fuck he was in smile he was joel oh yeah so yeah he was in smile he's
gonna be in smile too he's also in a movie called the passenger that came out last year,

(33:24):
Roost, let's see, Dinner in America. Yeah, he's done quite a bit of stuff.
Mm-hmm. Okay. Scream King, hashtag. Ghosts of War.
I guess, was he in Scream 2022? I don't think he was.
No? No, he was in Red Eye. Oh, man, I'm going to have to go back and revisit these movies.

(33:48):
Because I like him as an actor. I think he's pretty good. Like, I know the movie.
I give a movie a shot. when i see him in there i'm like okay i
i trust that he picks decent movies to be in like horror movies because each
one i've seen they've held up pretty good they also consider taylor lotner for
this role oh my god thank fucking god they didn't do the fucking twilighter dude,

(34:13):
they already have the fucking twilight guy in the
beginning of the movie oh the other vampire guy yeah so
yeah no i like kyle galliner i
think he is a scream king he's right up in there he's making a good name for
himself in horror um yeah other than that i don't really recognize except the
dude from twilight but katie cassidy i don't recognize her it looks like she's kind of tv.

(34:40):
Or she i guess she was the girl in taken she
was in supernatural which i've never seen that tv show people love
it i got really into it for a while you
got into supernatural why i'm fascinated
i'm fascinated by you people like because when
you do no hear me out hear me
out hear me out on this so like when

(35:03):
when you someone brings up supernatural and you're either
don't know the show at all or you're obsessed with
the show like like i know the actor baldecki
or paldecki he was in friday the 13th house of
wax and dean yeah so why do
you like this movie or why do you like that show some episodes

(35:25):
are interesting i like to see where they take
and how they play with what a demon is and what the
devil is and look they're more than just a fucking character
that's gonna to come and get you in the middle of the night they have
a personality they have fucking personal life they have issues they're trying
to take souls and grow their thing i like what they did with castiel the angel

(35:47):
god one of god's fallen the one of god's angels fallen angels okay because they
he's so like i don't know they make him question his care he's.
He's character, right? He's an angel. He's supposed to be 100% devoted to God.
But when he starts hanging out with humans and all the shit that's going on
in the world, he's like, wait, is God listening?
And they're like, where the fuck is God? Isn't that Lucifer?

(36:13):
No, Lucifer takes a whole rap with it, too. But they really do question.
You can see him, Castiel, having conflict with other angels because they start
being questioning what God is telling them to do.
And again just playing this is just episode
306 i don't know but you
guys guys guys do you hear this this is

(36:35):
what i'm talking about every time i hear someone talk about supernatural this
is what happens this i'm just
telling you why i got into it for a bit next week i
gotta announce we're no longer doing this angelus is
doing a supernatural podcast i'm gonna
resume supernatural i there was
there's some seasons that were better a lot of the times it was

(36:56):
just background you watched all the seasons no i haven't
i stopped that's your junk food that's your comfort food like i said my guilty
pleasure right now hash brown white collar i know yeah a lot of times i would
play it because some episodes were not great some of them were interesting and
i would actually stop and pay attention to them it kind of reminds me because

(37:17):
i've seen bits and pieces it kind of
reminds me of what's charmed oh that
kind of show and i was like this is cheesy this is stupid but i've never met
a dude that likes supernatural it's always girls or women that like supernatural
i think i got yeah and then i get it the guys are handsome well some seasons

(37:38):
went really into demons and angels and when but when i first started watching it was.
They're hunting out creatures. And so like, you know, every other episode they
were encounter a new creature and hunted down and figure out why it was killing
and a little bit more about their.
So deep down, it was deep. It was deeper.

(37:58):
It's just junk food show. I get it. Okay. Supernatural. Thank you. Why did you ask me?
Katie Cassidy. She's in it. And then you have, and then you have Thomas Decker,
which actually I take that back.
I do. i know of him because he was in heroes
did you watch heroes i did i watched

(38:18):
a few episodes i didn't get into it like i'm sorry
tv shows aren't my main thing it's movies that i like i watch all of heroes
heroes was okay that i got season one and two after that i just kind of got
it was boring i started and i just felt like i needed to watch it to finish
it no and there's nothing wrong with I don't know.

(38:41):
I think it's my ADHD, but I can't invest.
I end up stop watching seasons.
I'll get deep, too. I'll get into season three or four of something and then
just stop watching and there's like eight seasons.
He did a lot of voices for The Land Before Time.
Dude, Land Before Time. You ever seen that? Yeah, he was in five,

(39:02):
six, seven, eight, nine.
I don't know those ones, but I remember the early ones. Yeah,
the first couple ones. once. Dude, I loved Land Before Time. Those movies were deep.
They were. Yeah, sad. Do you remember the movie Homeward Bound?
No. You don't remember that? Shadow?
No. Shadow? No. Okay, never mind. Another episode, guys.

(39:24):
If you know Homeward Bound, you know what I'm talking about.
And then you have, so Thomas Decker, and then you have Kellen Lutz as Dean Russell,
and this is the Twilight guy.
He plays Emmett Cullen in Twilight, and And he was in Immortals.
Have you ever seen that one?
That's pretty good. I think it was like a derivative of 300 or the people who

(39:46):
made 300, I think, made Immortals. It had that kind of tinge, that film tinge.
You know what I'm talking about? The way 300 looked?
Yeah. It had that. So I could be wrong.
And he was in The Expendables 3 and then also Tarzan. What Men Want.
What? He was also in a movie called What Men Want.
And fbi is most wanted yeah

(40:10):
and then oh so we have more
actors here clancy brown i remember him in
shawshank redemption but also highlander's another big one starship troopers
but what i mainly remember this guy in his pet cemetery too he plays a either
a sheriff or a cop we'll have to watch that have you ever seen that it's got

(40:31):
the kid from terminator 2 i don't think so oh man Man, that's a good one.
So we'll have to watch that. But I like Clancy Brown. He plays the school counselor,
I think, in this one. Yeah.
Kyle Gellner's dead. Okay. And then you have Connie Britton, Dr. Gwen Holbrook.
She's Friday Night Live's American Horror Story.

(40:52):
Yes. Isn't she pregnant in the first season of that? Well, she gets knocked out by a demon.
Dude, isn't that wild? Yeah, I liked her in that season. The first season, she played Vivian.
Ooh, Viv. Viv. She was also in Dirty John in the first season.
Oh, yeah. Dirty John was good, too. Do you remember her? Yeah.

(41:13):
Yeah, that was a crazy show. I like that.
Seeking Friends for the End of the World.
Beatriz at Dinner. Salma Hayek was in that one. Promising Young Woman.
She had a small role in that movie. The White Lotus.
Luckiest Girl Alive. Dear Edward.
Winner. I don't know that I've seen that.

(41:35):
Looks like she's done a lot of TV. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then after that, then you have Leah D.
Mortison, Juliana Dam, Christian Stolite, Katie Shooping Knight.
I think that kind of rounds out the cast.
So you felt pretty good about the cast? Did you like it? I like,

(41:56):
yeah, I feel like some characters were more developed than others.
Okay, so this movie, I think characters were not developed. Very good. Okay.
I think we could have got a little bit more in depth with them.
I think that's what the 1984 one does really well is character development.
And a couple of the ones in the 80s did pretty good. But this one,

(42:18):
it was more, you can tell, it was sped up.
Yeah. They chopped it out. A lot of it can be contributed to our next topic is the director.
A lot of it can be contributed to that because Samuel Bear, he's a legend in
music and directing those movies.
Yeah, he's a legend in that. that but he made his film debut
with this and this is the only movie he has

(42:40):
ever directed and he didn't want to do it to begin which yeah
which we'll get into more i'm fascinated to hear about my
thing is he tried it and honestly i don't think it's bad for a first movie this
movie could have been a lot worse and i think he did a pretty damn good job
for having a first movie having the budget it had he had a lot of pressure on

(43:02):
him to produce something and he did because it was successful.
So i think he did a pretty good job i'm not going to
be harsh on him um like i have been on other people yeah because like it follows
i'm sorry people guys i will apologize maybe i went a little too hard on him
but again i'm not against that guy either but that was more of a lazy Lazy direction, lazy writing.

(43:27):
This one, I think, went over the top. He pushed too much on one area where he
lacked kind of guidance to make it a little more funny.
Michael Bay, I think, had a little more to contribute to that, a darker tone.
So I don't think he had enough pull either to do what he wanted to do.
I think he could have done this better, like Jackie Earl Haley,

(43:49):
if he had a little bit more control. I don't think he did.
Anyways, what did you have on him?
The director? Is that where we're going with this? Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like you said, amazing photography, tons. Do you have his notable music video work?
I have some. I went down the rabbit hole and I was like, holy smokes.
Yeah, I've found a few. You probably have them too, but his big ones.

(44:13):
I have a list. Yeah, okay, go through them.
Nirvana, Smells Like Teen Spirit, Ozzy Osbourne, My Mom Coming Home.
Ooh-wee. Iron Maiden, Wasting Love, Ramones, Poison Heart, Whole Dole Parts. Fuck yeah.
For Marilyn Manson, he did a few songs, Aerosmith, Pearl Jam.
Wait, which Aerosmith song? Love on the Elevator.

(44:36):
Oh. Sunshine. Oh. Pearl Jam. He did Quick Escape, The Offsprings,
This Is Not Utopia, This Machine Pumpkins.
Okay. Do you know the music, the songs? Do you want me to tell you the songs too?
Yeah, let's do the songs. The Smashing Pumpkins, he did Bullet with Butterfly Wings.
Damn, a heavy one. That's our best song. For Marilyn Manson,

(44:56):
he did Rock is Dead, Comma, White, and Disposable Teens. Mm-hmm.
And then David Bowie. Bowie. Bowie, he did The Heart's Filthy Lesson and Strangers When We Meet.
Metallica. He did Until It Sleeps, The Rolling Stones. He did Anybody Seen My Baby.
Oh man, we haven't even scratched the surface though. LL Cool J.

(45:19):
He did Father, Blink 182, Stay Together for the Kids.
Green Day. He did a lot for Green Day.
Dude, Green Day. So 2004 was huge for Green Day. Huge for him.
He did American Idiot, Boulevard of Broken Heart,
Broken Dreams, Holiday, holiday wake me
up when september ends jesus of suburbia bullet

(45:40):
in a bible dude 2004 that album was
like my gospel uh i know
i was like i know all of this song dude okay but you're
not even you skipped over some things michael jackson i
plays with no name i ruined five animals that's a
little more recent yeah but you're missing some big ones dude welcome to the

(46:01):
jungle guns and roses is he did that i was trying not to listen i was like this
is a lot nirvana smells like teen spirit that's another one zombie by the cranberries
oh my god this guy was fucking killing it he's a legend.
He's had a solo exhibition of photography and
then yeah just a ton my chemical romance

(46:24):
justin timberlake yeah he's he's
still killing it too till this day yeah and then
he's done a lot of commercials so when i looked him up actually took
me directly to his website yeah he has all
his collection there of like commercials to like super bowl
pepsi i never did coca-cola and that's where i was like whoa the photography

(46:44):
yeah and that's one thing about this movie he does really well so yeah no in
the background so he's from new york and new york syracuse and then he's He
was born February 17th, 1962,
but yeah, he, this is kind of the, the balls on this guy taking a remake of a, such a classic movie.

(47:07):
I know Wes Craven has been noted. He was upset about it. He's like,
dude, they didn't even consult me about this movie, which is kind of,
dude, that is kind of shitty, dude. Wes Craven is still alive at this point.
He's making, I believe, 2011 he made Scream 4.
Why not bring him in and give you guidance on giving some levity to it,
too, where they could have got a perspective on this.

(47:31):
This is where I think they got a little egotistical and like,
fuck you, old man. And this is our thing when really they should have brought
him in for a little bit of guidance because the dude knows how to fucking shoot a movie.
I mean, he's done all this work. He created this character.
Yeah, I feel like that's where, you know, at least talk to him.
Samuel going in there and having to fill into this huge shoes that was Craven

(47:55):
was already had, you know, that Freddie already has a history.
People know him. Well, dude, at this point he has canon, like people write stuff
about it and it gets into the lore, like all this history.
Wes Craven, when he started, he didn't make it that deep in the character.
Like it wasn't, this movie really touched on the canon of he was a child molester.

(48:20):
He killed these, he killed kids.
This really emphasized it where he didn't kill kids, I don't think,
but he molested the kids.
Wes Craven didn't touch that. He purposely left it as, left to you to imagine he did something bad.
Yeah, that's what I saw, that back in, you know, 84, when the first one was
made, they didn't want to, like, push that on people.

(48:41):
Yeah. So they just let it be a serial killer character.
Yeah. That was the original story. Left to your own imagination kind of thing.
And that's where it took off the child molestation and all that.
People created that, and that just became part of the canon of Freddy Krueger.
They didn't deny it either so like they just they
added to it just to you know drum up

(49:03):
popularity and the character yeah well
i because that's growing up that's what we knew like rock oh this motherfucker's
a chimo he's a piece of shit that was news to me watching this i was like it's
been it had been a long time since i had watched these movies i mean you know
that i spent the last week just kind of going over them and i was like what

(49:23):
the hell did i miss Yeah, no, he's a He's a Chimo.
And yeah, the first, like, I think right now I'm on number three and then, of course, this.
And I haven't seen hints of him being a Chimo in those first three movies.
Well, because they don't. At this point, it gets behind. It's done.
Now, Freddy is a legend. It is who he is. Now, people show up to see that.

(49:45):
And that's why those movies get weak is because it's all just like...
Typical horror fashion, slasher fashion. They know what the audience wants.
They get to it. Yeah. Which can be good, but also terrible.
This movie, too. Do you have any more on the director? No.
Just, yeah, that was his first movie, and he was like, done.

(50:06):
I'm not doing movies anymore. Not for me. And he went back to music videos and commercials.
Which I'm kind of bummed, because I don't think he did terrible.
I think he could have done some good work.
But if that's not your thing, totally understandable.
Now the writer yeah well
the writers there's multiple so we
have the first one that i have is wesley strick

(50:29):
so he's an american screenwriter and
author known for his work on variety of films particularly in
thriller and horror genres he was born in february
11th 54 in new york and so films and we've covered this one arachnophobia he
covered that one he did cape fear wolf with jack nicholson i love that movie

(50:53):
the saint doom the rock movie have you ever seen doom,
it's off it's based off the video game it's a video game no it's a shitty fucking
movie and it sucks but we should watch that it's part of it and then nightmare
in elm street he did and And then Love is Strange, a romantic drama.
So that just threw it in there.

(51:15):
Novels. Strick has also authored several novels, including Out There in the Dark and Whirlybird.
Do you know any of this? Nope. So the only movies you've watched is Arachnophobia
and Nightmare on Elm Street? I think maybe Cape Fear.
With our boy...
Lauren Scorsese, Robert De Niro. De Niro. And then I don't know that I watched.

(51:39):
He did Batman Returns, the 1992. So I don't know that I watched that.
Oh, dude. He wrote on that?
Yeah. That's cool. And then The Man in High Castle. Oh, yeah. The Hulu series. Cool.
And then the second, right? Or do you have anything else on? No.
No, I don't. And then the second one I have is Eric Hyacier.

(52:01):
I don't know. Oh, this is my second language. Yeah.
So he is an American screenwriter, director, and producer known for his work
in the horror and science fiction genres.
Again, he was born on June 13, 1970 in Norman, Oklahoma.
He has a little bit more. You probably know these movies a little bit more.
Final Destination 5, The Thing. I love the remake, by the way.

(52:26):
Have you seen the remake of that?
The Thing? I love both. I think so. I think so.
I love both movies. people kick my ass for it bird books hours lights out arrival
bird box like you said extinction and bloodshot and that's a super of movie
i remember seeing that with vin diesel terrible,

(52:47):
that movie sucked but i'm not a big vin diesel fan either oh you're not hey
hot topic here or hot take.
Fast and the Furious sucks. I hate those movies so much. I've only seen two.
That's it. I think that's kind of where I am. Two or three. Yeah,
I don't like those movies. Do you like any of them?

(53:08):
I hate them. The first two, and then they just keep pushing and pushing with the boring.
The second one with Tyrese, I like. Like, what's her name?
Michelle Rodriguez. She dies, and then they bring her back, and I'm like,
what are you guys doing? It's a drama. I hate that.
It's a money grab. i fucking hate that but no
yeah so he collaborated on this to make

(53:31):
the story that's the writers do you have any
take on the writers you have any complaints
any praise no i did see for again with eric heiser he was a creator head writer
showrunner and executive producer of shadow and bone which is I heard fuzz about

(53:52):
it on, I think it's on Netflix, right? Is it pretty good?
I have not watched it. I know a lot of people did. So I think we've watched
a trailer on it and we've been meaning to watch it.
We just forgot to. Shadow and Bone? Yeah.
The story is an adaptation of the Grisha trilogy and Six of Crows duology.
He also co-wrote Enconjuring 2.

(54:13):
And he has written in like documentaries.
One of them was called Like You Know What You See. And the other one was The
Story of Your Life, which I had never, I don't know that I've heard of them
before or what they're about.
The Story of Your Life? Mm-hmm. Oh.
Oh. Cool. Okay. Anything else? No, that's all that I had on the writers.
Cool. Any thoughts, opinions?

(54:35):
No, cool stuff, man. All right, cool. Participation, I like it.
That's stupid. Well, I had the same stuff you had written down.
Babe, babe, it's cool. Whatever.
And then do we want to talk about our boy, Michael Bay?
I didn't have anything on Michael Bay. So this bastard, his influence. This bastard.

(54:58):
He, dude, okay. So his creative oversight.
He offered input on the film's direction similar to
the like friday 13th and texas chainsaw massacre
he had heavily influenced the
direction the script the casting and overall vision while the director and writers
primarily shaped the story and the execution producers like bay can significantly

(55:20):
influence the major creative decisions and in this case that's what happened
i did see so where i like texas chainsaw massacre
2003 and friday the 13th 2009 this one
his dude this one
he should have backed off a little bit you had two heavy writers in
horror yeah they could have carried you bud like

(55:41):
i think it was wesley that i saw there was he
had left some comments saying that sometimes he would show up yeah
to production and they were shooting scenes that he had not written and
he's like where is this coming from so that's what i'm
talking about like dude michael bay bro stick if
you're gonna produce it produce it man but stay the fuck out
of it like directing it yeah come on man

(56:01):
you you made this worse like
it could have had so much potential to be great and it
just kind of it's like middle of the road where i like it it's just kind of
middle of the world these are the movies he redid i found it i knew i noted
it so i already mentioned texas chainsaw massacre friday the 13th but he also

(56:22):
did the platinum dunes did amityville horror with With Ryan Reynolds.
You remember that one? Oh yeah. That was a good one.
And The Hitcher. I haven't seen the remake. But we watched the 80's version.
I liked that one. Dude that one was fucking wild.
Yeah. She gets pulled apart. I wish it would have showed that.
Oh that would have been fucking cool. Man. I liked the character.
What was his name? The main character.

(56:43):
Oh fuck. I can't remember. He was good. He was creepy. He just fucking kept coming hard.
Oh fuck dude. He did. He did. The Hitcher 1986 was fucking awesome.
Watch it if you haven't. Yeah. It's a good thrill. We might have to watch the
2007 one. I wonder if it's any good. Any good.
I know Amityville Horror is pretty good. I like that remake.

(57:03):
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Yes. And thank you for the support, guys.
But getting into it, did you have a chance? I know you're busy and stressed
out this week. Can you have a chance to write a plot?
Because I wrote two versions of my plot. You wrote two versions?
Yes. I was tired of getting left in your dust with your funny plots.
I wrote a more serious one.

(59:57):
And then I wrote maybe a little more lighthearted one. Let's start with your
serious one. No, let's hear yours first.
Why? No, this is cheating. I like to go last. I like to go last.
Because then you're going to let us listen to both of them? Yes. Oh.
Lame. We could go one, one, one, one. Fine. Okay. I'll go with the first plot. Okay.

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That's my serious one. Beautiful. My turn.
Okay. Long time friend teenagers begin to have similar nightmares in which a
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The teens so realize these nightmares may not just be dreams after all,
and realize they must fight their micro-naps with coffee, generic Adderall,

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in order to defeat the revengeful pedophile killer with the weird fetish for schoolgirl dresses.
Hashtag to catch a dream predator. Interesting. Interesting.
Okay. You look disappointed. They weren't longtime friends. I'm just saying.
There's a hole. You forgot about it. Exactly.
But they were friends. Okay. Here's my one. Take a trip down Elm Street with

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the 2010 remake of Nightmare on Elm Street.
Imagine this, a group of sleep-deprived teenagers who think pulling an all-nighter
for exam is tough, but little do they know Freddy Krueger has other plans.
Our hero Nancy and her friends start having nightmares, featuring a burn victim
with a fashion-forward choice of finger knives.
Instead of worrying about prom dates, they're

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busy figuring out why freddy seems to have a personal
vendetta against their beauty sleep oh beautiful you feeling
good about that i do i feel pretty good uh how do you feel
about him i like him hey man i put a lot of effort in that
god damn it well i'm saying i like it i like that you like overthought it and
you came up with two plots i'm like dude i'm tired of getting burned in the

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like everybody's like oh angeles is way better i'm trying guys i'm trying i
just was like Like, I always, like,
paste a copy of the formal plot that they have.
You're always trying to one-up me. It's not cool.
I'm kidding. And I was like, how do I, Angeles, see the plot?

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This is how shit went down. No. This is pretty good. I like it.
Hey, I think we do a pretty good job on the plots.
Do you want to get in scene for scene now?
Let's get in the sheets of the scenes. Hey, first off, I want to start...
You die in your sleep, you die for real.

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Ain't that right? I love that they brought that quote back in this movie.
I think it's Tommy Decker who says it, the guy that goes to jail.
Oh, okay. Die in your sleep, you die for real. For real life?
So the opening scene is we got Dean Russell, the Twilight guy.

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He falls asleep at the diner and he's the one to first encounter Freddy.
Ready is this where the opening scene it
shows it it's it's a dream like state
right and he walks and he's he wants
the waitress he's trying to flag her down
and she walks by him he's like god damn it and then

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he walks into the kitchen area and then
it's weird they have i don't know why they they chose
this aesthetic but pigs like pig heads
do you know the reason behind that i don't understand does that
make that creepier i i didn't get that part of the movie no i didn't find why
pigs in specific i think they were just trying to be creepy yeah i guess it's

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okay but it was a little bit creepy because you do see the classic his hand
comes down and you hear the shing his.
Knife hands and then the guy what's
he do he's like who does he ask who he is or why
are you doing this well no no there's not
much like you you know if

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you have seen these movies before you know freddy's coming he's gonna pop
out of somewhere but no he's just kind of following the waitress but then
the guy when he gets back there though then the guy like freddy krueger he doesn't
say anything then he just slashes his hand yeah and he wakes up yeah he just
turns and freddy goes to slap him and then yeah he comes to to awaken nancy

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apparently works here as a waitress yeah Yeah, and she's telling him,
hey, man, you can't sleep here. We're going to have to kick you out.
And he's like, I'm sorry, it won't happen again. Clearly, he's super sleep deprived.
His eyes are baggy. A lot going on there.
And so she takes his plate, and then there's blood. It was super bloody steak,

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it looked like, but it was his hand.
And then he looks down, and there's blood on the table, and he sees the gash
that Freddy put on there.
Again, it becomes real. So this is kind of a funny part because then Chris comes in.
And she's another female character in this. She comes in and talks to Dean.

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And clearly, I don't know why, there's problems going on.
She knows him. I'm not clear if they're boyfriend-girlfriend at this point or what.
But she has an active interest because she's talking to him and is clearly concerned.
He tells her and divulges, kind of paints the picture why Freddy's here.
And why all of a sudden he's here in their dreams.

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He's saying he had trauma. He went to a therapist and they're bringing back
childhood things because I think it's deep rooted trauma.
And obviously it was for Dean. And that's what made Freddy Krueger come back. They remembered him.
Yeah. So what I gather and in previous Nightmare on Elm Street,

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it's the kids got to remember him for him to be alive, for him to like haunt them in their dreams.
Yeah. And he makes it clear down on the movie down the road. at
one point he does say that you guys started remembering me that's why
i'm back yeah yeah so you
can think you can thank better help for screwing
these kids over okay if i can make

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him remember a fun fact about freddy and
his hand and the glove apparently the gloves
were the most protected prop on the set because in
the previous films they had issues with staffing and
just gloves being stolen seriously yeah this
movie and in other movies as well i have the most notorious

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was a glove from one of the film evil dead 2 there
was a another glove in that movie too the one missing oh
really yeah apparently people like i'm trying to think and evil well yeah i
would too come on but after the fact why i wouldn't steal it during it oh yeah
when they're done so that kind of makes sense with this glove because it's so
iconic yeah so people geeking out especially Especially as Nightmare on Elm Street continued.

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I probably would have stolen one too. I know.
I would have got a pair. I'm like, I'll be walking around. Oh, fuck. We'll see.
So Dean's kind of there. She's talking about it. And then she ends up going
to find help or something because of his hand.
Or no, he spills the coffee because he freaks out. He's like, this is real.

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And then he freaks out and spills the coffee. So she goes and finds something to clean up.
At this point, he spins a knife and he falls asleep.
He's so sleep deprived. He ends up just falling asleep.
And then Freddy comes back, obviously, and has him kind of.
He grabs him from behind. Is that what happens?
Freddy grabs a knife. He does his little cackle. Yeah. Well,

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Freddy doesn't grab a knife.
He has his hand. Oh, his hand. He cackles. Yeah, he comes from behind.
And Dean's trying to wake himself up. And he's like, you're not real.
You're not real. And he's like, I am now.
And then Chris comes back. And
all she's seeing from her end is just Dean with a knife up to his neck.
And she's freaking out. Like, what the hell are you doing? well it

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clearly and it looks like he's doing it himself yeah
and it just does the motion which i thought
this was really good i thought it looked good yeah how about you i liked it
it was pretty good getting that that effect of him slicing his own throat was
amazing oh my god for some reason so i haven't seen this movie the last time

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i seen this movie it was in.
The first time was in theaters when it came out, and that was the only time.
For some reason, I had it in my mind that his shirt got ripped off,
and then, like, Freddie wrote something, like, I'm back, bitch.
But I think that was in a previous, like, movie or something.
Or theatrical release. I just remember that.

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But now, when I think about it, it was the throat cut.
But for some reason, I just thought his shirt got ripped off,
and then Freddie wrote something to the kids, but he didn't.
I think it was a different. Yeah, that was a different movie for sure.
That happened at some point. I just forgot which one.
At the restaurant, you also get introduced to Quentin. He's there with some

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friends at another table.
And what's the other kid? The asshole kid.
His real name's Tommy Decker, I think. Jesse? Yeah, Jesse.
And then there's a third kid. Has nothing to do with it. He's just a...
No, yeah, but they're joking. Apparently, they know that Quentin likes Nancy.
And she comes over and they're like, Like, are you going to ask her?

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And she comes over taking their order.
And then they, Jesse is Chris's ex is what you get from this scene.
Well, Quentin's like, hey, man, she's with Dean.
Yeah. And he says that they recently broke up. And, you know,
he's upset that they're hanging out, not knowing what's going on.
So they get up to leave and Quentin stays behind. And Quentin asks Nancy,

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he's like, don't you ever get tired of working here every weekend?
And she's like, well, don't you get tired of coming here every weekend?
Yeah, so they have a little exchange, they like each other.
And they end up leaving, and Nancy goes off and does her own thing.
Yeah, Dean dies, and then you get the classic title with the slashy title.

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Yeah, and then, so the next scene is, at this point, is Dean's funeral, right?
Mm-hmm. This is where you see every character that's going to be in this movie, pretty much. Yeah.
And Chris is sitting there. She's devastated. Obviously, she just seen Dean slice his own throat.
Yeah. It's kind of in a state of like shock still.

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But she ends up, I didn't realize this, she ends up falling asleep.
Oh, there. Yeah, she dozes off and then she sees herself as a little girl. The blue dress.
With gashes down the front of it, like slices from the scissor hands or whatever.
What do you call that glove? Just knife glove? Knife, I think.
Yeah, because he made it himself, right?

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But yeah, and then the girl is by the hole in the ground where they're going
to put Laydeen to rest, and Freddy's hand comes out and grabs the leg,
and that's when she wakes up. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, freaks herself up, wakes up, and then everybody just kind of starts walking
away. They're getting ready to leave this funeral.

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The counselor approaches to Nancy and her mom, Dr.
Holbrook, and he's like, hey, if you guys need services, I'm right here.
Yeah, long time no see, which is weird.
This is what I don't get is, is it a small town or is it a moderate town?
Because they make it seem like the whole town is there.
Yeah. I don't know. I think I got the feeling of a small town.

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Yeah, because then he's like, long time, no see.
But you'd think that you'd see each other all the time. I mean,
your kids go to school together. They know each other really well.
Clearly, these people have a past. Maybe they don't talk because of what happened.
But yeah, they kind of mingle a little bit.
Then Chris walks over and they have that, what do you call it?

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Not a poster, but they just have all the pictures of Dean.
Yeah, so when someone dies, they have pictures of them.
Pretty much throughout their lives pictures of him specifically as a kid obviously he's only like,
1920 in this movie 18 yeah so they
have pictures as a kid well they have a picture they

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brought out and she's in it chris is in it and she's like what
i didn't meet dean till high school why am
i in this picture yeah and even jesse says the same thing he's
like i didn't know you'd need dean for that long and then
this is where nancy rolls up chris
is like yeah you know because she was the last one to have a conversation with
dean and she's like he just kept saying something over and over that was weird

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you're not real over and over and jesse's like well you know he was in a lot
of medications a truckload of medication yeah but she's like i don't know it
just looked like someone was making him do it the way he was holding the knife
she's like but there was like Like, no one there.
And Jesse's being dismissive, but Nancy rolls up.
She's like, and because Chris is like, she's starting to see it.

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And she's like, I'm believing him. And Nancy's like, I believe you.
I've seen it too. And then Jesse's like, hey, man, back the fuck off. She's in distress.
She's seen it. You didn't see shit.
Asshole. Yeah, like, he's just a prick.
But I wish, and we'll get into a little bit more in the movie,
Jesse, they could have made him even more of an asshole. And they did it. They...

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Loved him. Yeah, throttled back on it. I felt like they could have done a little
bit more to make you hate him a little bit more. Because he's clearly an asshole.
Yeah. But they kind of stop at that funeral part because then he does...
Later we'll we'll hit the scene but he he comes over but so after this point you see.

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They're all house yeah she's in bed listening
to music and this is where she gets
her first well we see her first
encounter that we see on film yeah of freddie
and her interaction and then you get this visual she's
falling asleep falls into dream state and then
you see the wallpaper paper kind of warp and

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start moving just from the angle in the camera that they have and
then you kind of start seeing freddy's face just
kind of come out you can see the outline of his face and it looks like he's
about to get her and she wakes up yeah so the funny part of this i was reading
multiple spots that this was a practical effect no way bull fucking shit it was not now i

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know this effect is real they probably did have a mesh screen
that like he pushed on to do
it but they fucking cgi'd the fuck out of that practical effect oh yeah but
man they're trying to push it like that was all practical effect that's fucking
bullshit that is not because you can kind of see the digital wallpaper it is
it's totally fake it glistens and shit the way that it runs it's so It's so smooth and seamless.

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It's CGI, which I don't care, but don't try to fucking bullshit a bullshitter,
bro. Yeah, I'm like, dude, no.
I can spot practical effects because we watch these 80s movies.
Oh, yeah. Those are all practical effects.
Really good and really well done. This you can compare.
Cgi let's be real let's be real i saw something

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we can talk a little bit more about later they try to say the
same thing about his face that it was all makeup and
it's so frustrating because it's like dude you're lying to me to my face like
clearly he did have makeup on yeah but you cgi'd the fuck out of it yeah and
you i'm curious to see what it would have looked like without that cgi i think
they would have they could have done a better job and it probably looked pretty good Yeah.

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Without CGI, why? I would love to see a picture of that, because even Jackie
said that at first it was taking six hours to sit down and do the makeup.
And then as they started doing it more and more, it cut down to three hours.
Well, what does that look like?
Well, yeah, they're like, we'll just CGI this. So that, I think,
is what derailed this movie.

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Little things like that, where the detail, they started dialing back.
And we're in that era of CGI. CGI, yes, we're in that era, 2010.
You know, we start seeing it
really bad, 2005 and onward, where we start seeing the CGI going hardcore.
Where we had it from Jurassic Park, and it was ramping up, but you really see

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it from 2005 on, and it just, it gets better over time.
Don't get me wrong, but we just, 2010, we weren't quite there yet on this.
It was the auto-tune to music.
Yeah, yeah. Were you had Transformers, Michael Bay, CGI? Not bad.
Not bad. I could live with it. I get it. They're fictional robots, cars.

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Which Freddy Krueger is fictional, right? But there's a person behind it.
You can't give them the same sheen as a Transformer. You know what I mean?
They hired the same company, I think, to do it.
I don't know. I'm just saying from what I'm seeing that it just didn't work
right. The CGI didn't work right.
I think they could have done better if they were going that route,

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which I don't think they should have.
But, yeah, so that's her first experience. That freaks her out,
obviously. What happens next? You go to Chris's house.
She's still not letting shit go because everybody's telling her it's a dream, let it go.
Because she was telling the exact same thing to Dean before he died.
But now she's seeing things.

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And she's going through, but she's going through photos. And her mom's like, what are you doing?
And she's like, well, and she's trying to say, hey, pack that shit up. Time for dinner.
Yeah. and trying to move it on. Yeah, she's like, where's all my childhood pictures?
Like, they're not in this album here.
She's like, at the funeral, I saw a picture of me.
And she's like, oh, those old things? I think they're in the attic.

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Yeah, and she was like, it looked like I was five. And the mom,
totally, who would remember being five? Yeah.
And yeah, pushing the- Let's be honest. Do you remember being five?
I don't. I do. I had an adorable uniform.
I do. I remember bits and pieces. He says, I remember this kid in kindergarten
who, I think his name was Chris.

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He, in the bathroom, I thought it was always weird. He peed with his pants all
the way down at the urinal. I'm like, what the fuck? You're doing it wrong.
But he was learning still. I'm like, dude, you're doing it wrong.
And he never figured it out. It was like half the school year. I'm like, bro.
I remember there was one kindergarten and the entire time where I lived.

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Yeah. And it was completely opposite side of town from where I lived.
And it was kind of on the outskirts of the town. So we had to walk.
I had to walk from one end of the town all the way to the other end of the town to go to kindergarten.
And first at the start of the school year, like my mom would walk me.
And after that, it just became a thing to where I would walk to school.

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And in the way, like you would meet other little kids and then just kind of make it.
It was a little creepy at times. Yeah.
Depending on the season, like I said, it's kind of on the outskirts because
you would get to the kindergarten.
You had your campus of the school. Right. And then on one end,
it was like a few houses, not a lot.
But on the back end of it, it was just woods. And that was it.
There was no houses back there or nothing. Ooh, creepy.

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So we would tell creepy stories back there. Like, did you know there's a cemetery
under the kindergarten?
You guys are wild. Dark. Maybe shut up. Dark, man. But yeah,
we had to wear a uniform for school.
I just remember bits and pieces of teachers.
Someone, they did a sleepover at the school one time.

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Nice. I didn't get to go, but I did get to go back on Monday and someone had a pee pee accident.
So that was like everybody was laughing about like someone left their pee underwear there.
It's fucked up. You guys are fucked up, man. Why? We didn't know who did it.
We just found the underwear in the cafeteria.
Who? I got a question. Everybody had one. Who was the stinky kid in your class?

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I don't know. I don't remember.
You don't remember the stinky kid? I can't remember.
It's driving me nuts. We had one. You can call him out by name.
I know. And I felt so bad every year. I had him in my class until fifth grade.
That poor kid stunk, dude. Dude, he was the stinky kid for, like,
it had to have been a record.
We didn't have stinky kids. We had a kid whose family couldn't afford to buy his uniform.

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So he would have, like, the shirt that was the colors of the school.
Yeah. But this poor kid, sometimes he would actually show up with the pants
that went to the uniform, sometimes shorts, and sometimes other stuff.
Yeah. Just because he only had one pair of pants, it seemed like. Dude, that sucks. Yeah.
And you guys made fun of him relentlessly. That's fucked up,
dude. I didn't. It's so bad for him because I've told you stories of like our

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lunchtime at times. Yeah.
He was the kid that would wait and his mom would never show up to bring him lunch.
Fuck. Wait, your parents had to show up to give lunch?
They had lunch at school, but it was not free. You had to pay for it.
So it was cheaper for your parents to make you lunch and bring you lunch to
school. They'd bring it to you though? They'd bring it.
They didn't pack it? Lunch bags were expensive and they were not a thing really.

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Only the kids with money had lunch bags. Dang, man. If I would have knew you,
I would have mailed you one. Shut the hell up.
You're dumb. Leftovers. I don't want that shit. I want a Transformers lunch bag.
How would you know? And actually, it wasn't Transformers. It was Ninja Turtles. Close.

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That was my next guess. Fuck. That's hilarious.
Okay, let's get back to this fucking movie. So she packs it up,
but later it shows her, right? She goes to the attic.
Yeah. But we find out she's dreaming because she opens the box.
And I thought this was weird because it caught me off guard for a second.

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She opens the box, and I thought she was awake.
And she opens up, and she sees the dress.
I'm like, why didn't the mom keep that fucking dress? Right?
And then there was something else she found in there. A doll.
A really old doll. Yeah. like a where'd you touch me doll oh my gosh richard
i'm just saying i'm just saying,

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my raggedy doll yeah uh where'd
the bad man touch you doll which is weird but a
fitting touch this movie but that's when
you find out she's dreaming because then it's like something weird happens
she turns around and like you wait
for him to jump at some point and he does he jumps on
her and doesn't he make a comment he's like oh you look even better than you

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did back then that was nancy he had the hots for but he said something about
her too he's like do you remember me and she wakes up and she's in her bed just
really upset and then the next thing they take you to the school.
And then you see Quentin and Nancy have another interaction.
He's asking if she's okay.

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You need someone to talk to. I'll get down your pants.
And he has this, the one thing, I love myself, but no.
Why does his face look like he's in pain? He just has this look like, mm.
He does all the time. He has a pouty face. He's kind of a quintessential for our era, emo.
Emo he is. He's the emo kid. he looked a lot like his character a little bit

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like he's like his face like the character he has the piercings he has that
face like he's gonna say to live is to die.
Maybe he did off camera but what are they talking about just that and teacher
says quentin good class his dad his dad Dad, yeah.

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His haja. And then in class, you see Chris again falling asleep.
And Jess is just kind of watching her from afar.
Well, now they're in class and they're focusing and then she dozes off.
They're flipping through the book.
She's flipping through the book that they're reading in class. Yeah.
And then the pictures start getting weird. And then she sees there's like a

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claw that scratches on the page.
Bloody. bloody and then she kind of that starts
giving it off for her and she's telling herself like doesn't she go out
and like a girl like takes her like she
herself says follow me and freddie's
like one two like he's counting like he's gonna go play hide and seek yeah in

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this scene right first she tells herself she's trying to first wake herself
up she knows that she's falling and then asleep and then it has like this like
poof effect in the movie yes like a fog and it's all burnt yeah.
It looks like the building has been burned down. I thought this was a cool effect
when she does that because first she's in class and then all of a sudden it does change.

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But it does a really cool effect of getting smoky or whatever.
And then bam, it looks like hell.
Yeah, and again, she's sitting there telling herself to wake up. And you hear Freddy.
And he's like, you really shouldn't fall asleep in class.
And this is where he starts being creepy. He's like, you look as beautiful as ever. Yeah, exactly.
My skin crawled. And I was like, no. And she panics and she gets out of that room.

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And then she sees a girl, but it's her as a child. She's like, come on, we got to go.
Not yet, babe. Oh, what happens? Come on. She wakes up screaming. She wakes up.
At that point, she does? She wakes up and then she sees that there's some strands
of her actual hair on the book.
So Freddie did get her a little bit. Yeah, she screams and freaks everybody

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out. Everybody's like, whoa.
And the teacher, hey, are you all right? And she runs out of the class,
and then Jessie yells after her.
She goes back home, and at her house.
Which, as a parent, would you leave your kid after something she just witnessed
her friend slices on the throat?

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Would you leave for work? I know you have to work, but let's be real.
I mean, you could take some sick days here. Yeah. My kid just witnessed something
horrific. Obviously, she's struggling.
Oh, traumatizing. wouldn't you take a few days well maybe you wouldn't
but you're a workaholic i
know but something that tragic yeah that's pretty like hardcore man hardcore

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and something to really worry about like oh is my kid okay yeah she finds her
dirt dog outside rufus and she's like come on let's go inside and back she goes
to the freaking inside the mom comes down she's like some flight attendant.
Says that she's going to be out of town for work. Yeah, but she does that.
So are you sure you're going to be okay? Yeah. She's like, try to sleep.

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I'll call you when I land.
And then it's nighttime. And then she finds some newspaper.
And then she's reading over Dean's obituary. Yeah.
And then she hears noises, like, outside, some rustling and stuff.
And then Jesse pops outside the window, which I think was a little reference.
Like, it reminded me of Scream.

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Yeah. When he pops in and he's like, bleh. yeah he comes to the window why nobody's
home just comes to the front door like creep,
she yeah and then he's like i'm gonna be honest you
know i've been jealous and an asshole but dean was my
friend so like filming and what is really going on you guys are talking about
these dreams and so and he's not admitting it right now but he's having those

(01:27:55):
dreams too he's just trying to be like like cool about it cool yeah and then
she mentions that every time she falls When she falls asleep,
there's a man in her dreams.
He's really burnt up, a little melted away. And then this is where he does admit, he's like, yeah.
Knives on his fingers. And they kind of put to, Chris does, she's like,

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whoa, we're having a shared dream.
And he's like, no way, get the fuck out of here.
Yeah, and she's like, all I want to do is sleep. And he's like,
well, how about this? He's like, you know, maybe we don't talk about him or about the dream.
You won't dream about him. What she actually is right.
And then, so I guess they go to sleep. And you hear barking outside.

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You assume it's Rufus. And Chris wakes up. She opens the door.
She's like, what the hell is the dog doing outside again?
She can't find him. She just hears the barking. So she's walking outside.
It's all dark and foggy. You get this eerie feeling, like waiting for Freddy
to come around again. Yeah.
And she finds Rufus, and he's dead. He's got the classic flash.

(01:29:02):
He has the flashes on him. Yeah. And then Freddy makes his little appearance,
and he's like, oh, I was just petting him.
Yeah. So those are the quips they tried to do, but they're not as effective.
No. So she goes inside, and this is the scene that you were just talking about.
She goes inside her house, but it's not her house.
It's the school. Yeah, the preschool. Mm-hmm.

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You see, like, the little kid writing with chalk on the walls,
the little letters. And then, yeah, the little girl grabs her by the hand, and she's like, come on.
He's going to get us. But is that little girl? It's her, right?
Yeah. Yeah, it's a little kid.
And she grabs her, and then she starts walking. But then she stops like an idiot,
but what are you going to do?
And Freddy's up against the wall counting, like, hide and seek like you would.

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And then she's just petrified staring at
him and then he looks at her right yeah he's
like ready or not here i come yeah one
thing that i saw that they kept doing over and over throughout this movie was
again making reference to the older movies doing that scene with little girls
jumping on the jumping rope and singing that song yeah one two yeah the classic

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a lot what she freddie says He says it in his own way, Jackie Earl Haley does.
Yeah. He's like, I'm coming for you.
Yeah, and then before anything, well, before she thinks anything happens, she wakes up.
And then she goes to use the restroom, trying to cool off and be like, I'm good.
She goes back to bed and lays down next to Jesse. Yeah. And it's Freddy there.

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And he's like, I found you.
And she's freaking out. Oh, yeah, found you. Yeah, she's freaking out in her dream.
Yeah. And Jesse tries to wake her up. Well, and it looks like she's having a
seizure. A seizure, yeah. He's like, whoa, Chris, Chris.
And all of a sudden, she levitates. Oh, yeah.
And starts shaking. He's freaking out. He's like, what the fuck?
And at this point they do

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this is cool because this was in the first movie too
with the same character they use
the rotating room and uh just fling her
all over the place i thought this was pretty effective
and they're beating the hell out of her and
then all of a sudden he slices her
chest yeah and she falls and blood

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splatters everywhere it's all over jesse see at
this point he gets freaked out he's like oh
fuck i gotta get out of here he starts ringing
outside okay he trips the alarm yeah and
i got a note here i put boyfriend
trips the house alarm the whole police force comes out blonde hair blue eyes

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no wonder and then i put not in my neighborhood what the fuck they're not not
everybody's coming down here no cavalry you're Lucky to see one in an hour.
Like, it ain't happening.
But yeah, the whole police force in full effect chasing, going.
You hear it immediately. It's like, dude, get the fuck out of here.

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And then he panics and runs.
Which, how do you explain it? I mean, that's pretty smart. Like,
get the fuck out of there, I guess. But then what I don't get is...
He's running in the neighborhood. I didn't think Nancy and him were that close.
How did he know what room Nancy was in and to where to go?

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He went to her window pretty quickly and it's second story.
He's fucking a super fast runner. But it didn't make sense because I didn't
think their relationship was like that.
Listen, he climbed up Chris's window pretty effortless. So that makes sense
to go to Chris's window. I'm not disputing that one, but Nancy's,

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that doesn't make sense because she's an introvert.
You can tell they weren't close like that. And back at the restaurant,
he was like making fun of Quentin for even like, I don't know,
having a crush on her or something.
That's what I got. Which I get why he went and talked to her because he's like,
hey, this shit's real. She just got attacked or whatever.
And she's like, what are you talking about? And she's like, he's like, I didn't do this.

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We got to figure it out. and then that's when nancy's
like freddy is the name he's like yeah freddy krueger
or whatever yeah she mentions that she's been hearing that song and
he's like you gotta figure it out you gotta help me and then
he jumps out the window oh and then before he leaves that's when he gives her
her her life advice to not fall asleep yeah you die in your dreams you die for

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real and he jumps out the window and then all of a sudden the cops are just
on a full-on manhunt because he killed a blonde-haired and blue-eyed girl,
in a very privileged neighborhood.
And they tackle him on the ground. They're like, get down, fucker.
And he's screaming, I didn't do it. And everybody's kind of looking out there.

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I did bring up, because I have a note on this too, is in the first movie,
you watched the first one after this one, right? Yes. Just to get a palate cleanser.
I missed the, here's my note, I miss the cop dad element of the first movie.
So the dad was a police chief or a police officer, Nancy. Oh, Nancy. Nancy's dad.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't have them in this.
Nancy's dad doesn't exist, which I think maybe they did it to make it different.
But I miss that element of it, like doing an investigation on top of it of what's going on.
Because it keeps the story going, but it also adds another element.
Because she has an N a little bit in the first movie. Yeah, exactly.

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So I don't know. I just, I was like, fuck, man, they should have added a cop
dad in this. But they didn't do that.
And they essentially replaced the cop dad with. The teacher? No, Quentin.
He serves as kind of that a little bit, a little in between.
Where he's kind of the Johnny Depp character slash dad character.

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I think they molded that character to make it work that way.
Because essentially he's helping her along the way and the cop does kind of
help at the end. Yeah. Not really, but he's there.
Yeah. Kind of like Quentin does. Mm-hmm.
But so at this point, he gets arrested. He's in the jail cell.
He's freaking out. He's like going on full on crazy, hitting his head.

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Tapping his feet. Yeah. You can tell he's annoying everyone in his cell.
Well, the one guy, he's like, what the fuck, dude? Chill out.
And which I think I would be too. I'd be, if I was in a jail cell like that
for murder, I'd be freaking, dude.
Especially what I've seen. I'm like, oh, shit. Oh, yeah.
Nancy calls Quentin and she's like, hey, you said if I ever need anything.

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And like give you a call you need to talk fyi chris
is dead he's like what yeah i
like the cell phones we weren't quite at the smartphone era
yet flip phones yeah flip phones sidekicks
you know they're awesome i don't
get blackberries they're cool i had a blackberry i had a blackjack two oh shit

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yeah samsung blackjack two it was sick i wish people could see your two your
fingers going up hey i love that phone that phone was fucking sick and then you go to a bookstore,
and quentin is there researching side effects of insomnia and he's falling asleep

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and you can tell like the screensaver on the computer becomes animated that
was cool i thought that was cool cj.
And then he sees a little girl in the bookstore and she
runs away and so he's walking towards
it and again you're getting this like sense of
dream because the walls as you're walking by they kind

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of warp in and out a little bit and there's absolutely
no one in this bookstore it's just him and then you're
here again the one two song from far back
yeah and if he gets up close there's
freddie and right as
he turns as freddie turns around to look at him and he sees him
face to face nancy wakes him up and she's

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like bad dreams is it freddie again and then
yeah and you said this is where they discover about night
micro naps and stuff i thought that
was a cool element to this bringing that up like uh just saying it like oh man
you're so tired you go to sleep you don't even know it you're you're awake but
still napping which i thought was a pretty Pretty cool take on that because

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the other movies don't cover it like that. You just fall asleep and you fall asleep.
That's it. But this one, you're still awake, but you're so sleep deprived that
your reality is blurring. You don't know what's real, what's not.
I thought that was cool as Freddy's coming in.
And that's kind of a plan of Freddy, too, especially with Nancy.

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He's trying to get her so tired that she'll eventually, because they hit that,
that you get so sleep deprived you go into a coma.
And so Freddy's trying to get Nancy to that so he keeps her forever.
He isn't trying to kill her. He just wants her in his world.
Yeah. Which I thought was a cool take also where the other film didn't do that,

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didn't want it like that. He was just trying to attack her.
Immediately, yeah. quick kills yeah it added to the
fatuation i know you didn't like that part about the kids and
the tri-mo stuff but i thought that was a
cool take on that like oh he's still obsessed with her yeah so which is i thought
if he liked kids yeah never mind they're not kids anymore at this point no i

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mean they're they're teenagers they're young adults yeah but you know i don't know No, no.
But I just thought it was kind of an interesting take.
You go to jail and then you see Jesse again. Oh, yeah. The cop opens the door.
He's like, hey, man, your parents posted bail.
Which you just got accused of murdering your girlfriend.

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And the whole police force came to attack you from a house alarm.
Now they're letting you go.
Which, dude, Brinks home alarm system.
If that was you guys, man, kudos. You got the whole police force.
That alarm system's got to cost big bucks.
Anyways, he walks out. He starts walking.

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And all of a sudden, he looks behind him. And it's just a brick wall for what
he was at, where he was at. It's just like there.
And then he starts freaking out. He's like, oh, shit. I'm sleeping.
And starts walking down. And then it turns into the boiler room. Yeah.
He hears Chris. I think it's Chris. It's supposed to be Chris yelling for him for help.

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Yeah. And then the other thing, yeah, and then this is where you get another whip of, like.
You see two girls. So you see Chris and Nancy as kids.
Yeah, they're up there behind, like, bars. Yeah. Just looking down.
And he don't care. He's like, fuck, I'm freaking out, dude. This fucker's somewhere.
And then you hear the glove knives just running.

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And I think they did that too much.
Like, playfulness with the glove. like yeah you get it i just come on dude that's
where you maybe don't dial jack your haley back and let him improvise a little
bit because you just kept to the same thing throughout the whole movie that

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was his creepy element yeah which was not very creepy.
And then once he gets down there, though, he sees them hanging, the bodies, right?
Like body bags from hooks on the wall. Chris and Dean are hanging there.
And then Freddy shows up, right? Yeah. And again, they're trying to make him be funny.

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And Jesse's like, oh, God. And Freddy's like, nope, just me.
Oh, yeah. He's like, oh, God. He's like, oh, no, just me.
Yeah. And he's like, why are you screaming? I haven't caught you yet.
So he disappears for a minute. And he curls up in a ball.
Yeah, and he's just, you know, keeping an eye out. Where is he coming?
And then he comes from behind him with a claw and then cuts him in the back. I thought that was cool.

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Is this the point where he dies? Yeah. So he, like, punches through his back
all the way through his chest.
It doesn't show the back in the reality world, but he's lifted up and then bursts through.
And the guy in the background the his his cell
partner yeah he's like what the fuck i didn't do it i
didn't do it which clearly bro you didn't fucking do it how are you gonna do

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this oh yeah and his chest burst out how i know this kid was a fucking asshole
though was freddie's like oh man the brain lives for another 10 minutes we get
to have some more fun and the kid's like ah.
Which i wish they would have made him more of an asshole because
it would have been more effective but i felt like

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this one i was cheering for freddie i was like this kid's a fucking pos i hate
him torture his ass i wasn't hating him as much and yeah like i said they could
have did a little bit better by making you hate him a little bit more i knew
they were trying to go with him but they just didn't do enough of it,

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Like he should have been the boyfriend that was beating Chris.
That would have been. Oh my God. And then you're like, oh yeah,
let's fucking get him. Yeah. Six minutes. Play with his head.
You go back to the bookstore and Quentin and Nancy are there.
And this is where Quentin pulls out his pills.
I pause at the movie to see what they were called. Zonerol.

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Oh, so that's in the Freddy versus Jason, I believe. Is that what they call it?
I didn't, I don't know. A little reference. Yeah. Yeah, and he's like,
it's speed for kids with ADHD.
And he's like, it's fine. I've been on them since I was 13. This is nothing.
Yeah, I think they call it that. Maybe they don't. Maybe I'm mixing up.
There's medication there.
Not that they give it. Yeah, the make them not dream. Oh.

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Was the medication. I thought it was. Maybe it's not. It's on the third one.
Dream Weavers? No. Dream Warriors.
Dream Warriors. Hashtag dude, Dawkin.
Dawkin. Dawkin did the album for Dream Warriors.
Oh my fucking god i think you're talking about the third one because nancy is
the one with dream warriors no no i mean with the with the medication she keeps

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no freddy versus jason has it too but that was freddy versus jason is they had
him on the medication not to dream,
oh because on this one she's on some medication so just on the third one to
put the kids on it too yeah docking the dream warriors that song fucking rocks
look it up if you haven't i love it and then And Nancy,

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I don't, yeah, she wants nothing to do with this. She's like, no, thank you.
And then she notices that Quentin is wearing like a crucifix.
And she's like, oh, I didn't take you for like the religious kind or something
like that. And he's like, well, you got to believe in something, right?
And then he says that he found a book that was called The Pied Piper of Hamelin.

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Essentially, it was a story about a guy who was betrayed by his town.
And now he was taking revenge on the children. So he thinks that that kind of,
like, is his Freddy story.
And then, yeah, this is where they research that at the 70 hour of,
like, not getting any consistent sleep, you start doing those micro-naps, like you mentioned.
Yeah. Where the brain tries to shut itself down to recharge.

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And then... And this is where they're finally in his Jeep. Yeah.
Filing filing his what like nancy
and quentin they're in the jeep and they drive
to the little uh grocery store quickie mart
oh no not yet they go to nancy's house
oh yeah that's right and then her mom freaks out yeah what are you doing yeah

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she's like what are you doing she's like scribbling this dark fucking creepy
drawings and she's fuck you mom i have emotions okay yeah and nancy asked She's like, hey,
like, just curious, like, was there ever a connection with, like,
any of the other teams? Maybe when we were little.
She's like, oh, like, playing it off. I don't know. I can't recall anything.

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She's like, what about someone named Freddie? And she's like,
no. But her eyes. I don't know anything.
Her reaction is, like, stunned for a second. Yeah, like, oh,
shit. So you know they know something.
Yeah, so she goes, Dr. Hulbrook, and calls Quentin's dad. And she's like,
hey, FYI, like, Nancy's starting to remember.
And nancy goes to take a bath oh that's

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right and this is another shared scene so that's what
i like about this movie is it has scenes from
the first movie it plays it it pays its
respects so yeah because i like this part of the movie they do a pretty good
job just like the first one they do a pretty good job in the tub yeah with a
more modern take on it too because you have a cell phone with a timer on it

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yeah that's one thing i saw when i was researching is they try I tried to do a lot of the scenes.
To, you know, pay respects to what's Craven and the original movie and try to keep them.
Which, in the end, some people kind of bit them back in the ass because they
thought they, you know, viewers were calling it lazy for just plagiarizing the

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original movie by taking those scenes.
I don't agree with it because it's supposed to be a remake. Yeah. Yeah.
What she, she puts headphones in, right? And then she.
A timer in her phone. Yeah, a timer in her phone. and then
there's an angle with her legs which i was like why are
we looking at this angle but that's the whole point of
it that's like the first movie they did that so when

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i wrote a note it says who the f takes a bath in that position i have never
because usually i don't know i don't take baths i've taken baths but i stretch
out my legs like you want to get soaked in there and not sit there with your
knees but not everybody's five foot still like she's clearly like five six
five seven but her legs are like really uh bent yeah i know where they're going

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but i was like come on yeah and then the hand she dozes off the hand comes up
but then the mom knocks on the door like in the first movie the hand comes back
down i thought that was cool.
And then she's she gets up out of the tub but then she walks to her room and
i thought this This was a really cool scene.
It's the snow. It's snowing. And living in Washington, that snow looked pretty realistic.

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Yeah, they did a pretty good job. I've seen fake snow in movies,
and I'm like, it looks nothing like.
You can tell when people step on it. It's like the dry stuff.
But this one, it was living in Prince.
It had a good effect. It looked realistic.
No, he did a killer job at that, directing that.
And I thought that was cool. And this is where she has an interaction with Freddie,
what she's like ah i set an alarm and he's like you set that in your dreams

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yeah and this point she's in the school she's like walking and she's back at
the school and sees that there's a sign yeah and freddy greets her he's like
hi red little nancy all grown up.
And he's like don't you remember me like you must have you were my number one
so she was his favorite at one point yeah creepy he's like you were my little

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nancy and like sniffs her face which i was like i was like i don't like that
it's like yeah reminds me of a cannibal when he's like.
Yeah and he's like you smell different i was like stop touching her you smell different he does make
that comment that's fucking weird what are you supposed to smell like i don't

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know little girls it's fucking creepy and then yeah and then quentin calls nancy he wakes her up,
and he's like hey he's like it got to jesse he died in his sleep and you you
take a look at quentin he's fighting his leap i noticed that there was like
red wool cans all over his desk the eyes everybody's eyes that's why i liked

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in this movie as they went on their eyes got Got really black.
They really did a good job with that point.
Where you could tell they're declining in sleep.
And yeah. And so he goes to her house. To Nancy's house.
And she says that one of her drawings that she has. She drew this school after

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her dream. And he's like oh I've never seen this before.
Which I thought this was a cool element too. That they added to this movie. She is a drawer.
So she drew Freddy. What he looked like. I wish they would have did a little
bit more, but she was drawing it, drew the preschool, exactly what it looked like.
I thought this was a really cool part and element of this movie to make it different.

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So apparently Quentin has a sleepover at her house because the next day they're
going through Nancy's mom's stuff in her bedroom.
And then they find a picture tucked away underneath everything,
that preschool picture.
Yeah. With all the kids as kids. I mean, it's like that preschool Ohio, 1994 to 1995.

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Right. And her mom walks in and she's like, hey, the hell are they doing?
Give me that picture back.
Yeah, she freaks out. She's like, what the hell are you doing looking at Quentin?
Not Nancy, just Quentin. Yeah.
And Nancy's like, wait, you fucking lied. I thought there was no connection
and there's a picture and all of them are there. Yeah, and then she flips the

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picture over and you see all the kids names on there.
Mm-hmm, which cool little thing So the names on the back of the picture they
were actual like film crew members names that they put in the back Oh,
that's cool. That's kind of cool.
Yeah, and she's like, I'm sorry like I hit it.
Yeah, I just didn't want you to remember Yeah, um, yeah, I didn't want you remember
often this and then she tells him this story. Oh, oh Freddy and.

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Back, way back in the name, or back in the day, there was a man at the school,
and his name was... Fred Krueger. Fred Krueger.
And you see Freddy in his normal clothes. They're taking the school picture.
And he was a gardener who used to live in the basement.
And he was there for the kids, which, that was kind of weird,

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but I guess he used to live in the basement at the school. Yeah.
I don't know. and then you see scenes
of freddie just being friendly to these kids like playing hide
and seek like yeah real part of the
school he's a real like main character yeah they're
playing games and then her mom says you know the parents didn't want to believe
it at first all the kids were so innocent and then you see little young nancy

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drawing pictures and freddie comes up to her and he's like oh my gosh like you're
such a good drawer i have pictures of my that i've drawn but but they're not this good.
Like, maybe you can help me, you know, trying to be friendly,
get her trust. Which maybe this is what caused her to be a really good drawer.
Oh my God. I mean, I'm just saying.
I'm okay with not being a good drawer then.

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And then you see. I'm just saying, good trade off.
Nancy's there again, like she's back, you know, again in this flashback of when they were kids.
Her mom's examining her, turns her around
and she has this like slashes scratches on her
back oh yeah which resemble like gardening
too like so was he like scratching him with

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this tool yeah he was like he was
like inflicting pain but also molesting him
like he had a weird sexual thing and young
nancy she's like well you know there's a secret cave we're not
supposed to talk about it and he takes us there
and all to the
end of that story her mom is like he left town no

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one ever found out about it but so at this
point i didn't put two and two together until the end they so these kids think
that he's haunting them and killing them because they lied and created this
fake story about him and it shows it more later when quentin falls back asleep
yeah and she's like you know your dreams are just repressed memories,

(01:53:05):
you guys it was a terrible time whatever he was doing to
you guys yeah that's what it is and nancy's like no screw that shit we need
to find all the kids that were in the picture and talk to them damn and she
starts looking them up right yeah and they're dead she's seeing on the internet
and they stumble upon old marcus yoon.

(01:53:27):
And he has internet clips, right? But this is later. You see Quentin.
He's like, you know what?
His dad picks him up. Yeah. And she's like, dude, we got to figure this out.
And he's like, listen to yourself. This is bullshit. They just explained it.
Get a fucking grip. And leaves with her dad. Yeah. Leaves with his dad.

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This is where she does look up Marcus Hewn, though, right?
Before that, we have Quentin at the pool doing his swim competition.
Oh, yeah. So, yeah. And this is the point where he starts to think, like, oh, shit.
Like, we lied about this guy and got him killed.
Because he's in the pool. He falls asleep, is drowning. He gets pulled out, but he's dreaming.

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And he comes out of the water, and he sees this old rundown, like, foundry.
And when he gets out, it's cold. He's cold. And then you see Freddy running past.
Oh, yeah. Screaming. and then cars just and
it you can tell it's way back like in the 90s
or whatever because the cars are older and they're

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running and chasing him down well he starts to follow him
and then he sees them chase him into a building and he's screaming he's like
i don't know what you think i did i didn't do it i didn't do it yeah and they're
trying to like beat down the door they don't and then clancy what's the dude's
name the dad's name is it clint no that's his real name I'm playing to you.

(01:54:55):
I don't remember. I wrote. Quentin's dad, though, he's like, this ends tonight.
And he has a Molotov cocktail, lights it on, and he's like, this is for my son.
And throws it into the window. Yeah. And that shit goes off.
Yeah, it goes crazy. And this is the cheesy CGI, because then he starts running,

(01:55:18):
screaming. Freddy does. He's like.
He takes off a coat, and you see the classic iconic sweater.
Yes. Yes, you see it. It's like, oh, my God. Even I was a little like, this is cheesy.
Well. But then his face is on fire, but it's like cheesy, like CGI fire.
Yeah. And I was like, ugh. And he runs straight.
This was a cool part. He was on fire in Golden Flame, whoever that was.

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If that was real, that was cool. He runs towards Quentin.
Yeah. And that's when you see the close of his face where that was cheesy.
Yeah. And then he wakes up because someone revived him.
You're doing CPR. One little cool thing that I did find about the cheesy iconic sweater.
It was knitted by Judy Graham, who was the same lady that knitted the 1984 sweater.

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Oh, that's cool. So they got her to do one. Well, so it's cool they showed it.
I just thought that was a little cheesy ripping the coat off like that. Yeah.
They're just showing you how he became Tibby. So Quentin wakes up.
He's like, fuck, we lied about this guy. This is why he's after us.
Yeah. And then this is what you were talking about. About Nancy finds the clip of this guy.

(01:56:25):
Yeah, he has things. He's like, man, I'm sleep deprived. I'm seeing this guy
in my dreams. He's a burn victim.
He keeps taking me to school. And I keep getting closer. He's like...
I finally got into the school. He's like, is there anybody else having these dreams?
Anyone out there to help me, please? Like, he's desperate. Yeah.
And then, and this funny, this character, this guy, he has a small part here,

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but he's in Friday the 13th, 2009.
He plays. Oh, really? Yeah. He plays a character. He's pretty good.
Nice. But yeah, he's in this. And then all of a sudden he falls asleep.
You can tell. And then he slams into the camera, the webcam,
and then it goes to gray. It's like.
So he's dead on the video. So everybody on that list has died.

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The only people alive are Quentin and Nancy.
And then Quentin comes and he's like, hey, I know what happened to Freddie after
his whole pool dream scene.
And they go into the dad's office to confront him.
And they're like, dude, we know what you did. you guys killed freddie and you
burned him he's like how and the dad's like no listen like we were trying to

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protect you and he's like dude like we were four and five like why did you believe
us like did you actually see the cave did you tell the police like was there any investigation,
he's like you guys have marks yeah he's like you what if you kill an innocent
man you know like and the dad's like you know what like i think about that all
the time it's like a trauma that he has to, and he's like, goo,

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you fucking deserve that. Yeah.
Again, right now, he's a hundred percent thinking that the Freddie was innocent.
And from when I was looking up my research, I guess that is something that they
kind of play with of having Freddie, having that be a twist in the movie of
having him actually be an innocent person. But he's really not.

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Yeah. And then the dad, you know, he's like, you know what? Maybe when you grow
up, if you have kids, Like, you'll understand that you're going to do whatever to protect your kids.
Which, wouldn't you? Yeah. I know I would.
That's one thing I would. Like, you touch any kid, I'm going to fucking kill
you. Especially my own kid. You're fucking dead, dude. I will go to prison.
Like, that's fucked up. Yeah, that's gross. That's weird.

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And, yeah, they both storm out of their dad, Quentin's dad's office.
And he's like, you know, in their stories, like, Freddy killed him.
But what if there's a way that they can stop them?
You know, again, right now, Quinn is saying, you know, we were telling all these
things. They were lies. Yeah. They got him killed.

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So maybe we can do something to fucking redeem themselves.
Right. For having gotten him killed. And then as they're walking down the hallway,
Nancy hears her name and she sees Chris is like in a body bag being dragged out of the hall.
Which, again, this is, they changed it up a little bit, but this is,

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they got this from the first movie where Nancy sees a body bag of her friend
being dragged in the hallway.
Yeah. So it's a different point. It isn't exactly like this,
but they use the same one.
And then she turns forward. Yeah. Turns to the side again. And this time,
it's there again, but this time it's standing up.
Yeah. And she's like, do you want to play? And he's like.

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Yeah. I thought it was cool. It looked good.
Yeah, and she did tell Quentin, she's like, I just saw Chris.
And he's like, you know what? We're going to go find a preschool.
But first, we need to go get more Satterwool. Satterwool?
Satterwool. Yeah, he had to get his drugs. And I like this because it really

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painted excuse me, it made it paint them like junkies.
He goes in there and he's like, man, I just need my fix.
And she's in the the car she's tired she's
dozing off and she grabs the lighter car
lighter which kids if like nowadays they don't have them anymore but that was

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a real cool feature back in the day in cars you had a lighter that you can heat
up and it would and then it would get hot and she used that to like try to wake herself up yeah.
But then, so he's freaking out. The doctor's like, dude, you don't have any
more fucking refills. He's like, just fill it up. And she goes inside.

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And then she's still kind of sleeping.
And you see, and I thought this was a cool effect, the door.
You see him walking into the grocery store, Freddy.
But, like, it's, like, blinking. It's, like, flashing. And then he walks in there.
And then it turns into the boiler room the grocery store does. Yeah.

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Yeah, so it turns into the boiler room. And again, Freddy's doing his little
thing where he's running his fingers.
The thing. And then he pushes her to the floor.
He confronts her immediately, pushes her down. She's trying to get away from him.
And then he smacks her in the face and he's like, wake up. But it's really Quentin
trying to wake her up because she's inside the store.

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Yeah. But she's dreaming already.
She wakes up and she sees on her arm. Well, she's screaming and then Quentin comes running.
He's like, oh, shit. And she's on the ground.
Yeah. And one thing is she puts up her hand and she was able to grab like a
piece of that sweater. Yeah, grabbed him.
And just like the first movie, she finds out, Nancy finds out,

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oh, I can come to the real world.
And then they start putting two together to pull him out.
But yeah, no. And then she gets a huge gash on her arm and Quentin has to take her to the hospital.
Which I like this scene by the way her mom shows up Dr.
Holbrook and she's like who did it and then meanwhile you fucking steal see

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Quentin out here trying to get his fix going through the nurses yeah he wants
to stay awake and he ends up getting adrenaline stuff yeah he takes some pills well no shots.
And then a doctor comes in and she's like, you know what?
Like she just needs like, I have medication for the pain. Yeah.
But it's going to make her fall asleep.
Right. And then you see a quick little effect where the doctor's hand is Freddy's

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claw. Yeah. And she's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah. So he's. Which they could have had fun with this scene,
like her being tied down to the hospital bed.
Oh, yeah. And like in previous movies, Freddy had hands like syringes for hands.
Oh. And he could have been, they could have had fun with this and put him in
a doctor's gown and a little mask on with the syringe for hands.

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Yeah. And like, I'm coming after you. You know what I mean? Yeah.
They could have did a fun twist on the scene and they totally missed the mark on this.
Just quick and done. I like the scene how it is,
but they could have done way better where they could have emphasized that micro
napping, like where she thinks the nurse that is kind of, let's to be real,

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kind of bitchy, turns into Freddy. That would have been awesome. Yeah.
But again, what could have, could have, should have. Could have,
should have, but it wasn't. And so she's like, we're going to put her to sleep.
We're going to give her something. And then she's like, no, mom, no.
And then the nurse is like, hey, can you step outside? We got to talk, man. Yeah.
And she's like, hey, she needs the rest. Oh, yeah. Just sign here for me.

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And she's like, I don't want her to be in pain.
And she's like, she won't be. Just sign here.
Give it up, bitch. And so she ends up signing.
But then Nancy and Quentin are gone when they go back in the room.
Yeah. They're on the road. They're fucking taking off, going to go look for
the preschool. We find out Quentin's favorite color is blue.

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They're making small talk. Richard's favorite. Yeah.
Oh, my God. She's like, dude, thank you for saving me. And he's like, no biggie.
He's like, I stole some fucking adrenaline from the nurse's cart.
And he's like, you want some?
And she's still so, I don't know about you, but I'm like, fuck yeah,
give me some. I got to fucking wake up.

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Yeah. And you can, like, he gives it to himself on his leg.
Like an EpiPen. Yeah. He's like, ugh.
Yeah. And she's like, you know what? Just ask me questions. Keep me awake.
That's good enough for me. And he's like, what do you want me to ask you?
Yeah, and he's like, how come? I have a question. How come every time I invited
you over the last few years, you never showed up?

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And she's like, I just never fit in.
Yeah, I'm a weirdo. I'm an introvert. Which I can relate. It's cool.
Yeah, and he's like, well, okay.
Fine, if we survive, I'm taking you on a real date.
Fucking rib lobster before they go out of business. And then you see Freddy
in the middle of the street, right?
Yeah. And then he swerves and they crash.

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But coincidentally, the preschool's right there. Oh, yeah.
So they start walking to the preschool. They get in there. Yeah.
And no one's been there in fucking years. Which...
Put a pen in that real quick in this scenario in this movie who do you relate

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with most is this a new thing yeah i'm just curious you're just curious yeah
um i don't know i can't really,
i can't pinpoint everybody's personalities on this i can tell that chris is
like the popular kid jesse's the rebel dean is or dean dean was the wild rebel kid,

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Jesse was also. No, Jesse was an asshole.
Okay. Should have been a jock, but he wasn't because it's 2010.
Jocks weren't cool. They weren't anymore. Yeah, so he was an asshole.
You had the kind of semi-cool kid who was cool with everybody.
You, Quentin. And Quentin. You had Nancy, the quiet girl. You had Chris,

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who should have been the cheerleader.
I think she gave me popular vibes. Yeah, the popular vibes. So you had all the elements.
I think I would have been, I guess, personality-wise, Nancy, the quiet girl.
Nancy, yeah. I got Quentin. You got Quentin.
You knew everybody. No, actually, I would have been the third kid at that seat with Quentin and Jesse.

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Not saying anything? Yep. I would have been that third guy. That's not even in the movie.
Participation point. Yep. I would have been that guy. Oh, my gosh.
But, yeah, anyways. I would have been Dr. Hallberg. Oh, shit. Yeah, lame.
We're going to hide all your memories, sweetheart. Well, she's got it coming, which I'm excited for.

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The pacing on this movie went really fast. Yeah.
It was done before you know it. I kind of liked it. I like the pacing.
It got in and got out, man. That was clean.
But anyways, getting back to the movie, they get into the preschool,
right? What happens then?
Oh, Quentin sees- Freddy. Freddy and smashes on fucking Nancy. And he's like, no.

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And then she doesn't see it. So he's kind of like, oh, shit.
Like, what's real and what's not real anymore? Clearly, adrenaline didn't work. Yeah.
She's like dude follow me and she just apparently
all her memories are coming back she remembers yeah where
things are so she opens the door and they go downstairs and
then they find like this like an oil lantern it looks like and they light it

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up yeah and putin he's like i still don't remember anything and then they walk
into this bedroom which is where freddy used to live and there's like a bed
you see that glove with the with the knife knives on the end of it and then And there's like.
He's like, oh, this is his house. Yeah. Kid drawings on the wall. Yeah.

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And she's. And then Nancy sees one space in particular. And she's like,
there's something behind the. Yeah.
Behind the wall. And they rip off the little board, bulletin board thing.
Yeah. And then they find like a small door, like an opening.
So they crawl through it.
Yeah. And I think they found Freddy's cave.
And again, it's just like. Yeah, it's a little sex lair.

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Brick room with more like kid drawings. And a bed in it. Weird.
And like a little table and chairs. Yeah, fucked up. And then...
Nancy has another memory, and Freddy's like, come on. He's like,
can you keep a secret? I'm going to take you to a special place.
And she just remembers, like, kind of having, like, a game. They're painting

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the wall with, like, red paint.
Yeah. And she's wearing her little, she's wearing a blue dress.
Which, how the hell did she go home, and she's covered in paint,
and her parents seem like, what happened?
Or the teachers. Where'd all this red paint come from?
When is he finding time to take this kid downstairs? I thought when you're in
school, they have pretty rigid schedules.

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Like, you're here, you're learning, you're done, you're on the bus and going
back home. It's a little far-fetched. Yeah.
But, you know what? There's a will, there's a way.
Maybe it's at the school. Maybe they were having after-school stuff.
But when she's doing her little soul-searching thing, Quentin finds a box full of photos.
And Polaroid pictures. Yeah, he's looking at these Polaroid pictures.

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And then Nancy turns in and she's like, what'd you find? he's like
oh he doesn't he doesn't want to tell her he's like
no no he's like she's like what let me see it yeah
and then he's like dude it's all of you so
did he not molest all the kids just her she was his favorite so maybe he was
i think he did i think he did molest him or torture most of them because dean

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had problems they all were fucked up yeah so i think he did but he mainly kept the pictures of Nancy.
Yeah. So they both, like Nancy goes through them. She's like crying and everything. Um.
I thought they were going to show the pictures. They never did.
Well, thank God. That's weird. That's child porn. Well, I was like,
what the fuck are they watching? What are they seeing?

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I'm okay with not seeing those. I'm okay. I didn't think they were going to be explicit.
I just thought they were going to be pictures of her in her little blue dress or something. Yeah.
Not that. Ew. And then, yeah, Quinn is like, we were wrong. He's like,
he's not after us for lying.
Yeah. He's after us because we told on him.

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And she's like and then they start putting the picture together she's like yeah
he brought us here to remember like everything he's done to us and they're like
well but what does he want,
and again she like i don't know is using the little piece of burnt sweater as
like a fucking amulet now yeah he's she's like dude he wants them forever for
all eternity he wants us to know what he did and then they're just chilling

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in this room i don't know if i had run into something
pretty traumatic that happened to me i would have bolted out of there i'd
be like i would try to be piecing it together really i
yeah if some dude played with my butthole like you
make sure i'd be making sure
i'm like what exactly happened i mean i feel like you would you could come back
but like i feel like initially if i now that would have been a big shock i would

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have been like i need to breathe for a minute yeah process and then come back
and oh i don't smoke but i went and smoked a cigarette i'm like oh my god so
they're sitting on the bed,
you know they're like if we don't do anything we're gonna die regardless so
again just her with her little piece as well she's like what if i'm the only

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one that they can pull him out.
And again they kind of put this plan together and she's like you know wake me
up if you see me struggle while i'm sleeping yeah and then she lays on the bed
and quinn comes over and puts his He has the cross necklace on her. Yeah.
And he grabs a weapon. Yeah.

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What do you call that board thing with the knife? Yeah.
I don't know. Like little slicer to slice paper. Yeah, he breaks, yeah.
A paper cutter? Yeah, a paper cutter. I don't know. But yeah,
he breaks that off. That's a pretty cool weapon.
I've never seen one of those like that before. That was cool.
Yeah. And then they both fall asleep.

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He falls asleep first. Yeah. And he's like, he wakes up and he's like, oh shit.
He's like, I know where I'm at. Fuck.
And he's like, oh, Freddy comes in. And he's like, oh, you're not going to save
your little girlfriend.
And he grabs him with a head and, like, smashes him against the wall.
Yeah. Dude, that would fucking crush your school. Because he's hitting him pretty

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hard, like, against the pipes.
And so his face is all bloodied. And then he doesn't get stabbed at that point.
No, he just says, tag. He scratches him a little bit. Yeah, tag, you're it.
Which I did see, I guess, like, in this scene. I don't know if it's at this
scene or at one point, Freddy really did scratch Quentin in real life,
I guess, in one of the scenes where he was touching his abdomen.

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Yeah. The glove, the knife didn't bend all the way, so he couldn't pull it away,
so he did end up scratching him. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh.
So, but then he's on the ground, and then Nancy's like, Freddy!
And he's like, your girlfriend's here, and he disappears because he has priorities. Yeah.
And he comes he's over there with Nancy and he's like alright,

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he's like now that you have me like what game do
you want to play and she's like fuck you he's like oh it's a you're a little
fast for me again just trying to be funny and yeah it just didn't hit it didn't
hit right and he shows her like look at everybody that's died so far and again
they're all he just added more bodies to his collection hanging from those hooks and.

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And he's like, it's real and I'm real.
And she pushed him back.
And then they're kind of in and out of dream world. So she's in her house. Yeah.
She's running upstairs and sees his shadow walking around the house following her.

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And she hides in her closet. And you can see him.
He's walking around this room looking for her. right and she
he kind of peeks through like it's those closets where they have kind of like
blind shutters yeah yeah and she he doesn't apparently he doesn't see her but
then all of a sudden he's inside the closet with her and he's like boo so she

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runs she starts running up again,
and then the hallway turns into like a blood of pool yeah that was a cool effect
too so that's a a little play on her house in the first movie when she's going
up the stairs and she like gets.
She gets like when she's going up her foot goes into the stairs and kind of

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gets stuck like quick stand oh yeah this was kind of a play on that i think
but it was cool she was completely submerged and then all of a sudden it pans
to her bedroom and then it shows it like water just
pooling up on the top, and then it bursts.
And she's completely dry at this point, but then she's in her kid outfit.

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Yeah, like a crispy clear white dress. Yeah, she looks at it.
She's like, what the fuck?
And she looks like she can't move because she looks like he has her pinned down.
Yeah. And then he gets there, and he's at the door, and he's tapping.
He's doing his thing. He's like, hey.
Doing more creepy lines. he's like this dress

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was always one of my favorite yeah he's like
you remember of course you do he's and
this is where it kind of clicks he's like you remember everything he's like
your memories is what fuels me yeah so yes they remember him they brought him
back right but quentin wakes up and he's like dude i he and he explains i'm

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getting you to where you never wake
up forever and she's fighting him
does get up and then does stab him with what scissors
shears and he's like oh oh acts
like he's hurt and then he pulls it out and this is the shitty cgi the when
he pulls out the shears it just looked terrible the nerves like stretch out

(02:16:38):
so far out it was like it reminded me remember the mask with jim carrey and
it bounces back on it but the mask This goes better.
And that was made in like 93, 94.
But no, he pulls the shears out. He's like, what's up? Naughty girl. Yeah.
And then Quentin does wake up and he's trying to wake her up.

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And Nancy gets thrown back on the bed, right? And Freddie's on top of her.
Yeah, and he tells her, he's like, you know, I'm like. I'm going to keep you here forever.
He's like, my plan, you know, I have to keep you up long enough.
So when you do sleep, you never fucking wake up.
Yeah. And he does his little line where he's like, I'm your boyfriend now. Yeah.

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And then they sync it up to where Quentin has the adrenaline.
And then Freddie's going to stab her in the chest. And then Quentin just, bam, hits it.
And at this point, Freddy and Nancy come back into the real world.
And Freddy gets thrown off to the side. And Nancy's like, get him.
And then Quentin has to go grab the blade, right? Yeah.

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And then this is where Freddy gets over there, starts beating the shit out of
him. And then stabs Quentin in the shoulder.
So he's out. He's down on the ground. And then Nancy gets up.
And she has the thing. She's like, hey, Freddy, fuck you, right?
Yeah. And I thought this was cool because the sound and everything slices his

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throat, and then his neck is so sliced, his head starts to fall back, like fall off.
I thought that was fucking sweet. Yeah.
Welcome to my world, bitch. Yeah, and in it, too, she also cut off his glove.
Of oh before because he was gonna kill quentin and she cuts it off and she's

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like oh it hurts doesn't it and then she's like well welcome to my world bitch
yeah he just lays her he's done,
and then she grabs quinn helps him up they're walking out of the room and then
she turns around and grabs that lantern and throws it at the room and the building
goes up in fire again so So, oh, fun fact,

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the abandoned preschool set
was an actual defunct school chosen for its naturally eerie atmosphere.
That's cool. And the final confrontation was designed to mirror classic horror
film showdowns, blending suspense with action. Nice. Yeah.
So, yeah, then they survive. They walk out of that. They burn the place down.

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The firefighters are there already.
Yeah. To put out the fire.
Yeah. And then they both get taken in an ambulance.
And Quinn took the beating in this one. And he wakes up. And she's like,
all right, nightmares are over.
And then she gets home.
Yeah. They walk through the door. And the mom's like, okay, I want you to get as much rest as you can.

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And she sets the keys down and then there's a mirror behind her.
My favorite part of the whole movie, man.
That chick, Freddie, smashes through the mirror, grabs her and just impales
her eyes all the way through her head and then grabs her and pulls her through
the mirror. I love that. That was fucking sweet.

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CGI cheesy or not, that was cool. Did you like that?
It was fine. did you like the mom dying in
the first one or the mom dying in this one and
the first one because i in the bed where
it's just melting down yeah and then
you see more of like i like that the mom was
an alcoholic in the first one yeah she's a

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shitty mom that's where the dad dude we should have
had the cop dad and this one yeah that would have
been tight i like this one i
i mean i like on both but this one was so cool man he
fucking just smashes her head because i she was
making me mad throughout the movie she was just and i was like sweet sweet you're

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done yeah i loved it and then that was the end of the movie right was there
any like extra credit not that i saw i kind of skipped forward a little bit
i didn't see anything else or maybe it didn't get far enough,
more on the schools yeah the high school i guess it was filmed between two high
schools the board of the school allowed it to happen under a condition that

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there were no deaths inside the school actually filmed or taking place.
Oh, go ahead. Oh, and I was just going to say that this movie,
I guess, it also broke record for a midnight opening for a horror film. Yeah, that's tight.
Okay, so I have a couple facts here.
Our main character, Nancy, Rooney Mara, her commitment, she played Nancy,

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went through extensive training for her role, including learning about sleep
disorders and nightmares.
She also performed many of her own stunts, adding to the film's authenticity.
And then, like we were bringing up throughout the movie, the homage to the original.
This film includes several nods to the original 84 film.
For example, the scene where Chris is lifted and thrown around the room by an

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unseen force is direct homage to Tina's death in the original movie.
And then, okay, I knew I had it in my notes.
So while the film used CGI for some of the more elaborate dream sequences,
many of the special effects are practical.
This includes the infamous scene where Freddy's face pushes through the wall
above Nancy's bed, achieved using flexible latex wall rather than CGI,

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which, bullshit, I will put money down on that.
Sorry, I'm just going through these.
Freddy's backstory. So you mentioned this, and I have an idea.
So the remake delves deeper into Freddy Krueger's backstory,
providing more details about his life before he became a killer.

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This includes his role as a gardener at the preschool and his interactions with
the children, which added a new layer of horror to his character.
And then, despite mixed reviews, it grossed, like we said, $115 million worldwide.
And here's another tie to Michael Bay and the Transformers. So, the music score.

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The film score was composed by Steve Jablonski, known for his work on the Transformers
series. He aimed to create a haunting and atmospheric soundtrack that would
complement the film's dark and eerie tone. Okay. Which, nah.
Nah. And then this, babe, we got to find out. We might have to buy this. Deleted scenes.
Oh, I did hear about this. Several scenes were deleted from the final cut of

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the movie, including more detailed dream sequences and additional character
development moments, which I think would have helped this movie.
The scenes can be found on the film's dvd and blu-ray releases offering fans
a more comprehensive look at the story we might have to find that i want to
see that because dude that makes sense michael bay fucking gutted this shit

(02:23:43):
like i want to see the fucking those cuts yeah you know what.
That's what I had for extra things. Now that we talked about it extensively,
has your opinion changed about the movie? No.
Oh, wow. That was direct.
You still hate it, huh? I mean, it's cool. It was his, you know, director's only film.

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You weren't entertained at all. He used to film.
At all. You didn't like it at all. I think you didn't see it in the theaters.
I think that's what helped me. And I just love the genre. I love this movie or I love the franchise.
So this movie, I appreciate it. It was a different take, a different look at

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it. I like that some of the changes they did.
Maybe it fell short, but I still like the effort and I enjoyed it.
I did have a couple more things. Yeah. So this is from one of the producers,
I guess, due to the backlash over the remake. The next film that the studio
made was The Purge in 2013.
So they took like a three-year hiatus from this. Wow. And they did The Purge,

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though. That's pretty good.
Yeah. And then the other thing, yeah, like initially, you know,
it was a huge success. They did a lot, like, well financially.
And then immediately the studio also greenlit a production on a sequel,
again, with Jackie Earl as Freddie.
Which I think they should have. I think it would have got better.
There were discussions over his salary, storylines, but because of the backlash

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afterwards, it was kind of put to an end.
The other thing here, so it was set in Ohio, the movie, right, The Town?
Yeah. But it was actually filmed in Illinois for tax credit reasons,
so they got a tax break for filming there.
Yeah. and then yeah compared to the original films
which do have a dark humor and a black comedy this

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was meant to be taken more seriously and
have more greenness and then one thing that i saw was
the the crew was drawing inspiration from the
dark knight which had come out at the time yeah which 2008 the joker everybody
was trying to redo that yeah freddy's voice so it was digitally and post-production

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alter to make it seem more supernatural. Yeah.
And then, yeah, regarding the animators who did CGI, they were the same people
that worked on Harvey Dent's Two-Face in the Dark Knight that they brought on.
And then, yeah, I guess one thing that I kind of, after I read this,
I kind of started seeing it in the film.

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Every time, like at the beginning, especially when Freddy was going to make
an appearance, the scenes, the colors of the green and red were a little more
prominent to kind of give you a heads up.
And the tone, yeah, the tone would get colder, too.
Like the scene, the background would at least get cold looking.
Okay, I appreciate what they try to do, Richard. You do? I just don't like fucking Freddy's story.

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Oh my God, you're hung up on that so bad.
That's what makes the character the character. I don't. If I want to listen
to true crime stuff, I'll listen to true crime stuff. Oh my God.
You're fucking wild. I appreciated it. But I knew that backstory. I already knew that.
I don't. And I, yeah. And then he just, I feel like.

(02:27:07):
Sorry, your life got altered with that. It did. Oh my God.
Because you're rooting for this Freddy Krueger the whole
time i was like oh he's just a crazy deranged
serial killer and he just kills people in their dreams and
he was funny like in the first like the original
movies at times yeah and all of a sudden he's being like you smell different

(02:27:29):
this is my favorite dress you look so good and i was like stop it just kill
them don't make me feel uncomfortable dirty yes so what was What was your favorite kill?
My favorite kill? This one had plenty. There were six kills.
I wrote a note to think about what was my favorite kill, and I did not write it down.

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You don't have one? You go first. I don't.
I'm trying to think. So my favorite kill is the mom.
I fucking knew you were going to say the mom. But my second would be Dean,
and then my third would be Jesse, and then my fourth would be Chris.
You didn't like Chris's kill? It was cool. Cool, I like that,
and I like the homage to the first one, but no.

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I like the mom just getting blasted at the end. That was tight.
That was fucking awesome.
Does Freddy's kill even count then if he came back? Yeah, it could count. And kill the mom? Yeah.
So I have a thing on that. I think. Continue. I don't know. I'll probably have to say Dean.
You like Dean? Yeah. Yeah, that
was a good one. So Freddy, interesting you bring this up. Oh, my Leonta.

(02:28:36):
What about Freddy? So...
My thing is, is, so I have a problem with this.
With Freddy, the only way he can live is in dreams of people or kids who are aware of him.
Okay. Well, if he keeps killing the people, won't he die when everybody forgets? Also, how did he...

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How did he become to be, I know he was murdered, but how to get to the dream world?
So from what I found out, Freddy Krueger's existence in the dream world and
his ability to kill while being dependent on people remembering him raises interesting
questions, right? And then here's what I found.

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Freddy's origin was a child murderer who was burned alive. He made a deal with
dream demons who granted him the power to enter and manipulate dreams.
This is how he gained access to the dream world. Okay.
And I believe that was like in four or five.
I think I have that further. I put in my notes. And then sustaining his existence.

(02:29:47):
I looked this up. Freddy's power
relies on fear and memory. If everyone forgets him, he loses his power.
The concept is explored in various films, such as Freddy vs.
Jason, where Freddy uses Jason to instill fear and keep the legend alive.
His aim is to terrorize and kill while ensuring that enough people remember
and fear him to sustain his existence.

(02:30:09):
So does he keep one alive just to spread the good word of Freddy Krueger?
So then I found the paradox to this, because I'm not the only one who was thinking this.
The paradox of killing all his victims and losing
the power of the forgotten is a central tension in this
series freddy often manipulates circumstances to

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maintain his legend and keep people aware of his presence the
dynamic creates a continual battle for freddy to stay relevant and feared providing
an ongoing challenge in the series and then then i was like i was looking why
did he start killing kids outside the original yeah parents so you went on the Yeah,

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Freddy Krueger started killing kids outside of the original group of parents, of parents, children,
due to the expanding nature of his fear and legend.
Once he started haunting dreams, he influenced spread beyond the initial circle
of new generation, became aware his presence and feared of kids fearing him. Okay.

(02:31:12):
And then I was like, does he kill multiple people in dreams?
And they said, from what I read, it's kind of for the most part,
he kills them one at a time.
But has been known to have multiple people like Quentin and Nancy in dreams.
Yeah. And dream warriors.
And then, yeah, that's what I had. Sorry, I'm rambling a little bit.

(02:31:33):
But I was just curious, man. The dream demons. I forgot what one that is.
It's like Dream Master or something.
They dive into that. they dive into the birth of freddie so in one of the movies
i don't think you watched it yet it might have been where it showed the baby
freddie yeah in the picture on netflix,
it might have been in dream child but it shows him being birthed into a psycho

(02:31:57):
what do you call that mental facility yeah mental psych ward and there's a bunch
of crazy people all around and And his mom got raped.
His mom was a nurse who got raped there by a crazy person. Oh,
my God. And Freddy was born.
Okay. I might have that wrong a little bit, but. I have to finish them before

(02:32:17):
they leave Netflix. It's hilarious.
It's fucking hilarious. I'm like, dude, what the hell?
Like, all these fucking weirdos are just surrounding him. Like,
it's cheesy as fuck. Hello, child. Yeah.
Anyways, back to it. So, your favorite death was Dean.
What would you rate this movie out
of whole five stars

(02:32:40):
yeah uh two and a half you give it a two and a half yeah that's not bad i give
this one for the effort i give it a three okay i was entertained i liked it
i was entertained it was really good quality movie what do you mean like Like some of the scenes.
Yeah. Oh, the cinematography. The cinematography was really good. I like.

(02:33:06):
CGI felt flat for me, but. I like Jackie.
I like what they're trying to do. I like the cast for the most part.
Jackie Earl Haley was pretty good.
Considering his, you know, he was kind of limited. His restraints.
Yes. So yeah, I give it a three. You give a two over five. So we're pretty close. That's enough.

(02:33:27):
Do we want to bring in vienna and
the review corner does she have
reviews this time she kind of bailed on us twice twice yeah twice already i
think she did her homework she showed up she has reviews for us today all right
overall i feel like there was kind of mixed reviews as

(02:33:52):
well kind of middle of the road ratings for
the movie imdb gave it a 5.2
out of 10 that's pretty good run tomatoes 14
not so good metacritic 35 i've seen that which isn't bad no and then for hexing
giggles google users 69 see people like this movie i we're i know our Our fan

(02:34:18):
base, we've already had it.
They're like, oh, man, that piece of shit, good luck.
Like, dude, so the hardcore fans that we have at least following us already shit on it.
So you're welcome, guys. You're welcome.
All right, so it looks like Vianna is ready for the review corner. Hey. What's going on?

(02:34:39):
Making the best list ever of horror movies. Okay, I like it. I like it.
What's on top, Babadook? Oh I forgot to put one in Oh my god that's your favorite
movie No it isn't I combined like my mom What she had in her list And Kelsey's
And then I'm putting What about mine.

(02:35:01):
My bad i was gonna ask you wow the one that matters the one that matters i'm
gonna add some of mine in i'm adding some really messed up ones like what a
siberian film you know necromantic,
slaughter vomit dolls have you heard of it again again i gotta watch these movies

(02:35:22):
and i gotta talk about it at extensively so you gotta make sure i enjoy these
movies i'll talk about them.
No i'm excited i'm excited you're taking an active interest
can't wait to cover these movies it'll be
fun anyways so did you
watch this movie kind of kind of yeah what'd you what'd you see of it so i kind

(02:35:45):
of saw what where they were like talking and he tried offering his meds and
then when he like choked in the pool and where the mom they were at the table
and they were like Like, he touched you.
And then, like, the scenes back to, like, when they were in kindergarten.
Okay. And then, like, kind of towards the end. So you got the gist of it.

(02:36:06):
You got the gist of it. Did you like the movie? Mm.
Mm. Didn't do anything for you? Not really. What was your favorite kill?
I didn't have one. I didn't watch, like, any of the kills. Dang.
Okay. Well, what would you rate this movie without seeing any of the kills?
I don't know. i'd have to watch it what

(02:36:27):
and you're reviewing this review corner sucks there's
no like i won't how can we trust your
review uh you're gonna trust other people
oh okay what do you what do you have first of all i'd like to say i'm kind of
sad i forgot to wear my sweater that almost looks oh my god your freddy sweater

(02:36:48):
in june in june yeah no it has blue instead of I've read, though. Oh, that's okay.
So starting off, someone gave it a three and they said, well,
this didn't go as badly as I thought compared to the original.
It's not great, especially when they straight out recreate key moments always came off second best.

(02:37:11):
But just taken as 21st century slasher, I thought it was all right.
Was not expecting that twist that then twisted back on itself came out of the
blue for me. and even though Freddie started wisecracking the last 10 minutes,
was suitably unnerving.
The score was nice, and it did enough of its own thing for me to stop comparing

(02:37:32):
Midway and just enjoy it for what it was.
Same here. That's what I've been trying to say this whole review.
I kind of thought this was you that wrote it. I know.
Maybe it was. Who was the name? Helen S's review.
Helen S? Dude, that's my pseudonym. Oh, my God.
And then someone else said three stars

(02:37:53):
and a heart and they said it always starts the
same way at first i can totally understand how platinum dunes would figure that
hiring the person who directed the music video for smells like teen spirit would
be a good choice to helm a movie about distressed teenagers being lied to their
parents featuring an iconic sweater so filthy It might be contagious,

(02:38:14):
but then it occurs to me that Kurt isn't even wearing a sweater in that video Is he not?
No, he's wearing like a brown and green shirt.
Oh shit. He is Mandela effect I thought he was too.
I always picture a sweater, yeah And there's more, but I don't want to read
all Oh damn, no, what else do you got? Okay, and then.

(02:38:40):
Sorry, I'm switching over to my notes. Okay, someone else gave it half a star
and said, Whoever thought this was a good idea, you're ugly and stinky,
and if I see you in the street, I will hit you in my car. Oh, my God.
Another person gave it one star and said, It takes balls to remake a film involving
one of the greatest horror icons ever. I agree.

(02:39:02):
It takes brains to do it right. That would make this all balls and no brains whatsoever.
Yeah, I agree, though. It was an attempt. Shit, dude. Dude, better than I could do.
Someone gave it two stars and a heart and said, Freddy Krueger looks like a pizza.
Oh my God, yeah, a little pepperoni pizza.
Someone else gave it a one star and said, I legitimately have never seen a post-2000s

(02:39:28):
horror remake that has had good lighting.
That is true. There was a period of time when everything was super dark.
Someone gave it three stars and a heart and said, Like the original book,
it was way harder on the molestation stuff.
That was a choice I did not care for. Oh, Moe Angeles wrote that.
What's your pseudonym? I don't know.

(02:39:51):
Someone gave it three stars and a heart and said, This is good,
and I don't care. Life is short.
Enjoy 2000s horror remakes. Run in the forest. Be gay. I don't know. YOLO.
So i gave it three stars three and
a half stars in a heart and said best decision ever was

(02:40:12):
to watch this dope af with flu meds because
it didn't scare me this time and you just got me looking at this screen contemplating
if they dead ass gave freddy an alien look or my mind is messing with me i liked
it yeah cool well thank you for the reviews yes man do you have any suggestions for

(02:40:32):
the next movie we should watch, we will strongly consider them.
No, you won't. Uh-huh. You're going to be like, I promise. Ugh,
that movie? I promise. What are you thinking?
I'm trying to think. I don't know. Damn.
I'm thinking either, like, we should maybe cover, like, Bad Moon. It's a werewolf movie.

(02:40:53):
Oh, you could do a werewolf movie, I think. I know, I love werewolves.
We haven't. Bad Moon would be pretty good.
No, I'm trying to save the alien ones because they're fucking bangers.
I guess critters, kind of. Right?
Aren't they aliens? Yeah, they're critters.
Yeah. We could do alien. Alien.
Like. Hmm. I don't know. Find a really stupid one.

(02:41:18):
Just kidding. Oh my God. Well, we could. We could go foreign.
So we could do foreign. The ring? Like the Japanese version?
Oh, we could do the ring. We could do both if we wanted to.
The rings. The American one and the, was it Japanese? Yeah. Or Korean?
No, it's Japanese. It's Japanese. Okay. We could do those.

(02:41:39):
The grudge. The grudge. That was good. I don't think I've watched that one.
Oh, The Grudge is pretty good.
Well, all right. Thank you for your reviews. We appreciate it.
Can I just play three? Oh, shit. What's the one?
No, never mind, never mind. What? I don't know. Oh, okay. All right. All right. Thank you.

(02:41:59):
Until next time, if you show up. If I don't fall asleep. Yeah.
Because you guys take a long time. Participation.
Anyways, babe, what do you think? Those are good suggestions.
Suggestions lots of good suggestions all i know for the
past few weeks i keep hearing you guys never
want to cover chelsea play three hey lord pineapple i'm looking out for you

(02:42:19):
man i want to watch it too so we could do chelsea play three and then go foreign
yeah we could we could definitely do that let's uh let's weigh our options though
you're gonna think about it it's gonna be a or price?
Yeah, let's weigh our options. Let's surprise the crowd. Okay. Alright.

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