It’s Time to Say the Word Out Loud

It’s time to say it out loud—vagina—and stop the shame. Lucinda Koza talks with Saundra Pelletier, CEO of Evofem Biosciences, about why accurate language saves lives, the first non-hormonal, on-demand birth control, and how to raise informed, empowered daughters and sons. Plus—the surprising link between weight-loss drugs and birth control.

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
And welcome to How I Ally.
I'm Lucinda Koza and I'm here with a fabulous, committed guest Today, I would love for you to introduce yourself and give a little bio or backstory.
Great, thank you.
So, um, my name's Sandra Pier and I work with a company called Evo FM Biosciences, and we have two FDA approved products that we know help the quality of life for women.

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The first one, which my son says, is like my second child is called Phexxi It's the only FDA approved birth control that has no hormones, and women use it only when they have sex instead of having to ingest a synthetic hormone in their body every day when women don't have sex every day.
FXI is an empowering birth control that women use.

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On demand, just like men have had condoms and we can talk more about it, but that's product number one, Phexxi, P-H-E-X-X-I.
Our second product is called SOLOSEC®, and it's for women who have bacterial vaginosis or trichomoniasis which we know are.
Pervasive infections that make women feel really it, it makes them just feel insecure about their bodies and their vagina.

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What's great about SOLOSEC is it's one dose, one and done.
Before SOLOSEC, women were asked to take something twice a day for seven to 14 days.
Our product, SOLOSEC It's a sachet that you put in applesauce, pudding or yogurt.
Stirred in, eat it.
You're done.

(01:42):
One and done.
It's amazing.
So we've got two great products for women, so I'm excited to be here.
Are you ordained By God, that's incredible.
I mean, thank you.
Like my.
Teens, twenties, thirties, just filled with, antibiotics, birth controls, pills.

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I mean, what? Me too.
I know.
And you know what? I love that you're saying that because I promise you it's like, it's almost like.
The shade has been lifted with this product PHEXXI, because women say if I'm, if women are having side effects, think about it.
They have side effects every day, headaches, weight gain, bleeding, emotional highs and lows, because synthetic hormones do that to women.

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And with PHEXXI, there's no systemic activity in the body, and they put it in right before sex or any window within an hour, and they won't get pregnant.
So it's cool.
It's really cool, and we're really happy that it's available.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, we really need to spread this information.

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This is just great.
I'm just still happy for the next you know, the upcoming generations of girls and women and, and of course, yeah.
Women that are my age that are.
Sexually active.
Not that I'm saying I'm not sexually active, but you know when, when you have like 2-year-old babies, sometimes you're not as into it.

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Totally.
Well, and you know what else? Can I tell you something else? If yes, can I just show it to you so you see what it looks like? Yes.
Okay, so a prescription looks like this.
It's a box of 12 prefilled applicators.
When you open this box inside, what you see is this applicator.
You can put it in your purse, you can put it in your pocket when you open.

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The applicator inside is this little tiny thing that looks just like a tampon, smaller than a tampon.
So you take off the pink cap.
And I show, here's why I want you to see it, because I want you to see it's five milliliters of product, so not very much.
But it's really viscous and bioadhesive.
So all that means is it's not gonna leak out.

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Women aren't gonna use something that leaks out, and there's no odor.
There's no taste.
I'm gonna taste it for you.
No odor, no taste, and I love that.
And anybody who has vaginal dryness or pain with intercourse, and by the way, so many young women tell me they use lubrication as part of intimacy anyway, so it's like a no brainer.

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No.
Right.
Yeah.
So we really, really love it.
And the other thing, just so you know, our vaginas, your vagina, my vagina, our pH is 3.5
to 4.5.
That's it.
When sperm enters, our pH goes up to seven or eight, and that's how we get pregnant If we're not protected, all PHEXXI does, it doesn't change your pH, it helps your body maintain your natural pH, which makes it kill sperm.

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So it's cool your pH doesn't change, and it's a really, really amazing, because women feel really good and a lot of women say they have more sexual pleasure because it's lubricating.
Oh my gosh.
So it's just keeping your vagina like status quo.

(05:17):
Yep.
Yep.
Exactly right.
Exactly.
Instead of.
Altering you at in some unnatural way.
Yep.
And when you're on a synthetic hormone, your body thinks it's pregnant.
That's why you don't get pregnant.
And when women are on these hormones for five and 10 and 15 years, right.

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A lot of women are worried, like, what is that doing to their body? What are the other unintended consequences of taking something every day that they really don't need to save their life? You know what I mean? They're, they're just using it for the times that they have sex, which usually.
Is irregular.
You know, sometimes we have sex more often than others, but sometimes we have sex once a month.

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Why take a medication every day if you don't need it? Right? And sometimes we're given birth control when we are very young and.
I don't even know why.
I don't even remember why I was prescribed it at 17.

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I mean, it certainly wasn't for, I wasn't having sex.
Yeah, it's true, right? It's crazy.
And I was prescribed it at 15 and I wasn't having sex and I stayed on it by the way.
For years and years and years and years and years, you know? And it was crazy.
And so, yeah.
And a few years ago I got breast cancer with no family history, no genetic predisposition, right? Nothing.

(06:51):
It was, I was so shocked, and I'm convinced that it was using hormonal birth control for 20 years.
Right? I mean, it was a really shocking thing.
But anyway, but yeah, it's, well, yeah, that's, I mean, that's quite interesting because.
My mother.
Same.
I mean, my mother had breast cancer and my mother-in-law had I'm just putting their information out there.

(07:19):
But, um, it seems to be quite common.
Yes, as of late.
And increasing.
All the statistics say that cancer's on the rise, which is scary, you know? And so I guess my point is that for women who don't wanna use hormones if you've had side effects from the hormones you've taken, or if you're worried about taking a hormone for a long time, if you've had cancer and you can't use a hormone if you're breastfeeding, you don't want hormones in your breast milk, right? Right.

(07:51):
Phexxi is this perfect choice because men have had condoms for 150 years, right? A man can go out with a condom in his pocket, protect from getting someone pregnant, and now women can have sex on demand without worry, which is cool.
Yes.
And we can kind of craft that narrative, right? We can sort of, it's so exciting because I have a son and a daughter.

(08:21):
Twins and I just it's really and my daughter is autistic.
So that it does add a level of you know, I'm really going to have to think a lot about.

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How I'm going to talk to her about sex and her body.
Yeah.
And I don't want to use language that frightens her because that's, that's not natural.

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That's not, you know, that comes from a.
Reactionary place of fear.
And our bodies are amazing.
You know? I love that you said that.
And you know what? Honestly, that's what you just said is exactly why we wanted to launch, say.

(09:30):
Vagina month for this month of August.
Because what you just said, that everything is fear-based.
Fear-based, yes.
And we want girls to know that it is an anatomically correct body part.
There should be no shame.
There should be, women should be able to talk about their bodies, understand how they work, so that they can feel as good as they deserve to.

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And so vaginas are amazing and we, I love that you're saying how you talk to her, because right now my mother wasn't told about her body.
She couldn't educate me because she didn't know, yeah.
And so now, you know, say vagina, it seems so simple, but we're not doing it to be provocative.
We're doing it to be empowering and accurate.

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And clinically correct, you know? Right, Not even.
I mean, of course empowering, but not even that.
Just accurate.
Yes, just accurate.
Yes.
And you know what else? When you go on social media, you can say every man's body part, you can say it crudely or correctly or saucy any way you want and you'll get posted.

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But if you save vagina, you get shadow banned.
You can't say vagina.
Which is totally.
Unequal, completely bizarre.
And think about what a disservice, like even to you say about your daughter, right? Like if why do we wanna call it a hoo or a cookie or a, why do we wanna do that? Because then when girls try to describe what's happening to them, people aren't gonna take it seriously.

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.66666667Right? Or they might not even understand what's happening to them. 131 00:11:10,268.33333333 --> 00:11:28,361.66666667 Because they don't have the language themselves, so they're, I mean, especially someone with autism, if they take things more literally, I, when it comes to language, maybe we're really doing them a disservice if we're not teaching them to. 132 00:11:29,471.66666667 --> 00:11:33,101.66666667 The, to use the right words, yes. 133 00:11:33,506.66666667 --> 00:11:33,986.66666667 Yes. 134 00:11:34,286.66666667 --> 00:11:40,966.66666667 Well, I heard from this sex educator who literally said, so she said, look, kids are learning about their bodies on the internet. 135 00:11:41,266.66666667 --> 00:11:43,426.66666667 A lot of the information is incorrect. 136 00:11:43,666.66666667 --> 00:11:52,516.66666667 Number two, she said, if a young girl, instead of saying, my body hurts, or my belly hurts, if she can think about, maybe it's my vagina that hurts. 137 00:11:52,636.66666667 --> 00:11:54,676.66666667 Maybe she has a urinary tract infection. 138 00:11:54,886.66666667 --> 00:11:59,506.66666667 Maybe there's something going on so that the parent's not like, oh, you have a tummy ache. 139 00:11:59,536.66666667 --> 00:12:00,406.66666667 Oh, you have a flu. 140 00:12:00,406.66666667 --> 00:12:00,496.66666667 It's. 141 00:12:01,26.66666667 --> 00:12:04,656.66666667 Oh, you might have a vaginal infection if you say My vagina hurts. 142 00:12:04,756.66666667 --> 00:12:10,546.66666667 And young girls don't know to say, you know, it hurts when I pee my vagina burns or stings. 143 00:12:10,816.66666667 --> 00:12:15,556.66666667 It's a different mindset for a parent than my body hurts. 144 00:12:15,616.66666667 --> 00:12:17,211.66666667 You know what I mean? So, yes. 145 00:12:19,246.66666667 --> 00:12:22,456.66666667 So I think it's gonna be helpful if people will embrace this. 146 00:12:22,756.66666667 --> 00:12:25,876.66666667 We think it's gonna do a lot of good, you know, for education. 147 00:12:27,706.66666667 --> 00:12:28,696.66666667 Absolutely. 148 00:12:29,786.66666667 --> 00:12:33,476.66666667 To have that information as a parent. 149 00:12:34,796.66666667 --> 00:12:38,546.66666667 I mean, that's, that's everything. 150 00:12:38,906.66666667 --> 00:12:39,386.66666667 Yeah. 151 00:12:39,696.66666667 --> 00:12:40,326.66666667 It, it is. 152 00:12:40,326.66666667 --> 00:12:41,46.66666667 It's everything. 153 00:12:41,286.66666667 --> 00:12:48,546.66666667 I just went to this conference, this stimulate conference, and there's this company that just came out with a mirror that has the sides of the mirror. 154 00:12:49,1.66666667 --> 00:12:51,41.66666667 Like concurve for your thighs. 155 00:12:51,101.66666667 --> 00:12:58,151.66666667 So you put it in between your legs and you get to see what it looks like because when you're at the doctor's office, your legs are in stirrups. 156 00:12:58,151.66666667 --> 00:13:01,151.66666667 You don't see your vagina, you know your vulva. 157 00:13:01,151.66666667 --> 00:13:09,761.66666667 You don't see what goes on and so it was such an interesting but like common sense, right? I'm like, why didn't anybody think of that before? So Right. 158 00:13:10,631.66666667 --> 00:13:19,191.66666667 It's really, I think now we're at the moment where hopefully you, because of you and your daughter, you'll have access to all the information. 159 00:13:19,241.66666667 --> 00:13:21,491.66666667 Hopefully we'll be able to stop this stigma. 160 00:13:21,671.66666667 --> 00:13:22,571.66666667 That's foolish. 161 00:13:22,631.66666667 --> 00:13:23,471.66666667 You know, it's crazy. 162 00:13:24,251.66666667 --> 00:13:24,731.66666667 Yeah. 163 00:13:24,851.66666667 --> 00:13:39,756.66666667 I def I really feel like we are at a point as a society where we're just like, no one has time for that. 164 00:13:40,926.66666667 --> 00:13:41,616.66666667 Exactly. 165 00:13:41,796.66666667 --> 00:13:42,66.66666667 No. 166 00:13:42,66.66666667 --> 00:13:42,576.66666667 Yes. 167 00:13:42,756.66666667 --> 00:13:44,761.66666667 And I think women are consistently now. 168 00:13:45,586.66666667 --> 00:13:46,306.66666667 Fed up. 169 00:13:46,396.66666667 --> 00:13:49,156.66666667 They're like, look, this is not gonna be handmaiden's tale. 170 00:13:49,156.66666667 --> 00:13:56,416.66666667 Okay? We're 50% of the population, okay? We, and by the way, all of these men got here from a woman's body. 171 00:13:56,686.66666667 --> 00:14:00,46.66666667 Let's have a little bit of respect and love and equality and. 172 00:14:00,326.66666667 --> 00:14:05,336.66666667 And just treat us in the same way they're treated, right? Like these are our bodies. 173 00:14:05,546.66666667 --> 00:14:13,826.66666667 They are amazing and complicated, and let's be able to talk about them even with our dads and our partners and our male friends. 174 00:14:13,826.66666667 --> 00:14:20,186.66666667 And it shouldn't just be a conversation that women have amongst women either, right? Yes. 175 00:14:20,756.66666667 --> 00:14:26,276.66666667 And I think I would've felt more. 176 00:14:26,276.66666667 --> 00:14:32,226.66666667 Empowered and less alone and less weird. 177 00:14:32,946.66666667 --> 00:14:33,396.66666667 Yes. 178 00:14:33,726.66666667 --> 00:14:38,856.66666667 If I had been able to save vagina in front of my father. 179 00:14:41,601.66666667 --> 00:14:43,191.66666667 And have it be okay. 180 00:14:43,491.66666667 --> 00:14:43,551.66666667 Yeah. 181 00:14:43,671.66666667 --> 00:14:53,901.66666667 Like have him not, cringe or, have him or think you're trying to be pornographic. 182 00:14:53,901.66666667 --> 00:14:55,426.66666667 Do you know what I mean? Think you're trying to be, yes. 183 00:14:55,426.66666667 --> 00:14:59,631.66666667 Like it saying, it helps us remove the shame in healthcare. 184 00:14:59,991.66666667 --> 00:15:04,551.66666667 It helps men, feel like we don't have to have fear or a filter. 185 00:15:04,761.66666667 --> 00:15:07,71.66666667 So my dad is 92 years old. 186 00:15:07,101.66666667 --> 00:15:09,231.66666667 I was just visiting my family in Maine. 187 00:15:09,321.66666667 --> 00:15:09,621.66666667 Okay. 188 00:15:09,621.66666667 --> 00:15:16,101.66666667 Can you imagine? I said to my dad, dad, I'm gonna need you to do a video and say Happy Vagina month. 189 00:15:16,221.66666667 --> 00:15:18,561.66666667 And I'm gonna need you to say the word three times. 190 00:15:18,591.66666667 --> 00:15:19,821.66666667 Okay? The funniest part. 191 00:15:20,751.66666667 --> 00:15:24,681.66666667 His entire body looked like he was gonna, like, he didn't even know what to do. 192 00:15:24,681.66666667 --> 00:15:26,91.66666667 It was like he was frozen. 193 00:15:26,151.66666667 --> 00:15:28,161.66666667 And I said, listen, it's time. 194 00:15:28,221.66666667 --> 00:15:35,241.66666667 It's time that you are supportive of your wife and your daughter, and your sisters and your friends. 195 00:15:35,271.66666667 --> 00:15:36,681.66666667 And this isn't dirty dad. 196 00:15:36,681.66666667 --> 00:15:38,61.66666667 This isn't pornographic. 197 00:15:38,301.66666667 --> 00:15:40,701.66666667 You're just saying an anatomically correct word. 198 00:15:40,941.66666667 --> 00:15:43,901.66666667 And what was so amazing is he's i'm ready. 199 00:15:43,961.66666667 --> 00:15:46,271.66666667 I am ready and I'm gonna do it. 200 00:15:46,541.66666667 --> 00:15:48,186.66666667 And it was like the est thing. 201 00:15:48,401.66666667 --> 00:15:51,821.66666667 And the funnier part was is we can barely use his phone. 202 00:15:51,821.66666667 --> 00:16:03,231.66666667 By the way, I sent him the video and I said, now when you go to breakfast with all your male friends, you should show them the video so they can feel comfortable, dad, because they have daughters and wives and sisters. 203 00:16:03,516.66666667 --> 00:16:06,306.66666667 This isn't dirty, this isn't pornography. 204 00:16:06,546.66666667 --> 00:16:11,66.66666667 But anyway, it was, it was good because my mother said, he'll never do it. 205 00:16:11,66.66666667 --> 00:16:11,846.66666667 He'll never do it. 206 00:16:12,116.66666667 --> 00:16:12,836.66666667 And he did. 207 00:16:13,136.66666667 --> 00:16:16,196.66666667 And I said, you know, maybe we need to give these guys a little more credit too. 208 00:16:16,706.66666667 --> 00:16:18,86.66666667 Give them the benefit of the doubt. 209 00:16:18,206.66666667 --> 00:16:26,96.66666667 Now, some men, maybe they won't, but the good men who wanna support their partners and their daughters and their wives, they'll get on board with this message. 210 00:16:26,96.66666667 --> 00:16:26,486.66666667 I think. 211 00:16:27,66.66666667 --> 00:16:27,486.66666667 Fingers crossed. 212 00:16:27,486.66666667 --> 00:16:29,256.66666667 Yes, I think so too. 213 00:16:29,616.66666667 --> 00:16:30,486.66666667 Yeah, I think so too. 214 00:16:31,46.66666667 --> 00:16:34,526.66666667 So I have one child, and I do wanna say this for your listeners. 215 00:16:34,526.66666667 --> 00:16:37,256.66666667 The fact that you have twins, you are amazing. 216 00:16:37,316.66666667 --> 00:16:38,696.66666667 You are a total badass. 217 00:16:38,876.66666667 --> 00:16:46,496.6666667 I had all I could do to raise one, but, so he's 18, but I, what I loved is that I. 218 00:16:46,961.6666667 --> 00:16:54,851.6666667 Talk to him about girls and their menes, like they have periods, right? Here's what happens to a girl every month of her life. 219 00:16:55,1.6666667 --> 00:16:58,721.6666667 Every month she has to be responsible for this and her body. 220 00:16:58,991.6666667 --> 00:17:07,371.6666667 And what was fascinating is that this respect for girls' bodies, it was like all of a sudden he was like, whoa. 221 00:17:07,746.6666667 --> 00:17:09,816.6666667 I cannot believe that. 222 00:17:09,846.6666667 --> 00:17:11,946.6666667 And then I said, look, they have to choose a pad. 223 00:17:11,976.6666667 --> 00:17:13,566.6666667 They have to choose a tampon. 224 00:17:13,866.6666667 --> 00:17:15,306.6666667 They've got a lot of choices. 225 00:17:15,336.6666667 --> 00:17:20,346.6666667 And think how hypersensitive if something happens, like if they leak through their clothes. 226 00:17:20,496.6666667 --> 00:17:23,76.6666667 Imagine they're thinking about this every day. 227 00:17:23,136.6666667 --> 00:17:32,816.6666667 And so, so we had this conversation and he sat there pretty much like in shock, and then I said, look, I'm just telling you so you're aware, so you have education and information. 228 00:17:32,846.6666667 --> 00:17:35,606.6666667 I'm not trying to do anything other than. 229 00:17:35,916.6666667 --> 00:17:40,716.6666667 Give you information you should have, you know, and so it was interesting. 230 00:17:40,746.6666667 --> 00:17:44,46.6666667 And now you know that I know he's sexually active. 231 00:17:44,386.6666667 --> 00:17:47,26.6666667 It's been really fascinating. 232 00:17:47,596.6666667 --> 00:17:52,636.6666667 He says to me that young boys now wanna have the conversation with their partner. 233 00:17:53,26.6666667 --> 00:18:00,261.6666667 What's the birth control we are using? Not just the burden of the woman, right? It's not just, it's your responsibility not to get pregnant. 234 00:18:00,311.6666667 --> 00:18:05,321.6666667 And so cool is like you're both having sex, you're both responsible. 235 00:18:05,501.6666667 --> 00:18:09,221.6666667 You both might have an unplanned or unwanted pregnancy. 236 00:18:09,251.6666667 --> 00:18:15,101.6666667 It's not just her, and so, look, we're hoping that we change the whole narrative. 237 00:18:15,101.6666667 --> 00:18:23,51.6666667 I know that's a big, I know that could be, you know, a big fantasy, but anything will help, right? All these conversations will help. 238 00:18:24,26.6666667 --> 00:18:25,466.6666667 Absolutely. 239 00:18:26,186.6666667 --> 00:18:27,776.6666667 Yeah, absolutely. 240 00:18:28,796.6666667 --> 00:18:38,896.6666667 I mean, so it's been good, and by the way, and his girlfriend even shared with me, she said, you know, it never occurred to me that it was my birth control pills that were making me so emotional. 241 00:18:39,316.6666667 --> 00:18:40,906.6666667 She said, I actually thought. 242 00:18:41,386.6666667 --> 00:18:46,846.6666667 Maybe I needed to go on an antidepressant or maybe I needed to have something for anxiety. 243 00:18:46,996.6666667 --> 00:18:53,566.6666667 And she said, you know, I recognized that I, because I said, look, you should check everything, not just the obvious stuff. 244 00:18:53,596.6666667 --> 00:18:59,956.6666667 You know, if you have a thyroid problem, what are you using for birth control? And maybe it's not the right choice for you. 245 00:19:00,436.6666667 --> 00:19:08,866.6666667 There's a lot of choices, by the way, right? It doesn't have to just be PHEXXI, but there's a lot of other choices and different doses, and so. 246 00:19:09,646.6666667 --> 00:19:22,396.6666667 But what we really hope is that 32 million women right now, they'll say, look, I've already tried pills, I've tried patches, I've tried IUDs, I've had the shot, and you know what? I don't feel as good as I should. 247 00:19:22,816.6666667 --> 00:19:29,746.6666667 And you know what? I am responsible enough to use something on demand, right? Because you know, it's just like a condom. 248 00:19:29,776.6666667 --> 00:19:31,736.6666667 Every time you have sex, you gotta use PHEXXI. 249 00:19:32,146.6666667 --> 00:19:35,896.6666667 But if you're in control of your body, that's a layup. 250 00:19:36,136.6666667 --> 00:19:39,436.6666667 No big deal, right? Yeah. 251 00:19:40,276.6666667 --> 00:19:45,316.6666667 So, you know, we're, we're hoping we can get the word out, but you're right, we still, not enough women know about fxi. 252 00:19:45,346.6666667 --> 00:19:51,166.6666667 Not enough doctors or nurse practitioners or midwives know about fxi, but conversations like this will help. 253 00:19:51,766.6666667 --> 00:19:52,816.6666667 Absolutely. 254 00:19:53,446.6666667 --> 00:19:56,951.6666667 Knowledge is power and. 255 00:19:57,951.6666667 --> 00:20:02,841.6666667 Unfortunately, I'm sure young women especially don't have access. 256 00:20:02,841.6666667 --> 00:20:06,771.6666667 They don't have enough access to information. 257 00:20:09,141.6666667 --> 00:20:13,161.6666667 And by the way, birth control companies have historically. 258 00:20:15,66.6666667 --> 00:20:19,416.6666667 Provided fear you don't wanna get pregnant, you don't wanna get pregnant, you don't wanna get pregnant. 259 00:20:19,686.6666667 --> 00:20:24,156.6666667 There's never been the idea that women should have pleasurable sex. 260 00:20:24,511.6666667 --> 00:20:24,901.6666667 Right. 261 00:20:24,901.6666667 --> 00:20:27,61.6666667 You're only using birth control because you're having sex. 262 00:20:27,241.6666667 --> 00:20:35,191.6666667 And so that's the other thing we're hoping to change, is that if you don't have a hormone in your body and you're not suffering from side effects. 263 00:20:35,426.6666667 --> 00:20:36,536.6666667 You're gonna feel good. 264 00:20:37,16.6666667 --> 00:20:38,876.6666667 You're gonna feel as good as you should. 265 00:20:39,146.6666667 --> 00:20:46,986.6666667 You're gonna be lubricated, and hopefully you'll be able to have as pleasurable sex as possible, yeah. 266 00:20:47,316.6666667 --> 00:20:49,56.6666667 Which is important. 267 00:20:49,686.6666667 --> 00:20:50,676.6666667 Yes, it is. 268 00:20:50,916.6666667 --> 00:20:55,866.6666667 And what's so crazy is that there is that messaging of. 269 00:20:57,416.6666667 --> 00:20:58,826.6666667 Don't you dare get pregnant. 270 00:20:59,306.6666667 --> 00:21:01,586.6666667 You don't wanna get pregnant, you slut. 271 00:21:01,866.6666667 --> 00:21:02,766.6666667 You don't wanna get pregnant. 272 00:21:02,766.6666667 --> 00:21:03,636.6666667 You don't wanna get pregnant. 273 00:21:03,846.6666667 --> 00:21:16,126.6666667 And then all of a sudden, at like 21 or whatever it changes to, well, you better have kids. 274 00:21:16,876.6666667 --> 00:21:17,296.6666667 Yes. 275 00:21:17,296.6666667 --> 00:21:22,696.6666667 If the clock is ticking, you're not gonna be a productive member of society. 276 00:21:23,296.6666667 --> 00:21:26,326.6666667 Unless you have a child as a woman. 277 00:21:26,326.6666667 --> 00:21:26,506.6666667 Totally. 278 00:21:27,286.6666667 --> 00:21:37,66.6666667 It's like you're just always getting some prescriptive message as a woman. 279 00:21:37,261.6666667 --> 00:21:37,551.6666667 Yeah. 280 00:21:37,661.6666667 --> 00:21:42,351.6666667 It's, it's so wrong. 281 00:21:43,241.6666667 --> 00:21:43,511.6666667 Yeah. 282 00:21:43,511.6666667 --> 00:21:45,431.6666667 And the pressure, right? The pressure. 283 00:21:45,561.6666667 --> 00:21:47,811.6666667 No wonder, right? We're all stressed out. 284 00:21:47,811.6666667 --> 00:21:48,201.6666667 It's right. 285 00:21:48,206.6666667 --> 00:21:48,801.6666667 Yeah, you are right. 286 00:21:48,921.6666667 --> 00:21:50,1.6666667 It's like, yeah. 287 00:21:50,61.6666667 --> 00:21:52,651.6666667 It's like, yeah, you look, I love the word you use slut. 288 00:21:52,671.6666667 --> 00:21:54,711.6666667 It's like, yeah, you little vixen. 289 00:21:54,831.6666667 --> 00:22:01,611.6666667 You're going out and you're having sex, and you, you, you feel dirty, right? You feel dirty about it, and then all of a sudden, you're right. 290 00:22:01,611.6666667 --> 00:22:04,161.6666667 It's like they flip a switch, like now you're gonna be a mother. 291 00:22:04,431.6666667 --> 00:22:06,321.6666667 Oh my God, right? Yeah. 292 00:22:06,501.6666667 --> 00:22:09,801.6666667 But if you're not a mother, somehow you're not the same. 293 00:22:10,341.6666667 --> 00:22:12,891.6666667 Contributor as a woman because you're not a mother. 294 00:22:13,71.6666667 --> 00:22:21,321.6666667 And it's like, what? And a young mother, right? So you're like, you have all this, and then you're like, oh, should I focus on my career? Oh, no, that's selfish. 295 00:22:21,411.6666667 --> 00:22:21,891.6666667 Oh no. 296 00:22:21,921.6666667 --> 00:22:25,101.6666667 Should I have a mo be a mother now? Oh, well, I'm too stressed out. 297 00:22:25,101.6666667 --> 00:22:28,266.6666667 What if I miss out and you go through all this self torture. 298 00:22:28,596.6666667 --> 00:22:33,606.6666667 I always say, you should never shame a woman because no one's harder on her than herself. 299 00:22:33,931.6666667 --> 00:22:34,231.6666667 Okay. 300 00:22:35,191.6666667 --> 00:22:36,91.6666667 Yes. 301 00:22:36,91.6666667 --> 00:22:37,561.6666667 No one's harder on us than us. 302 00:22:37,681.6666667 --> 00:22:38,551.6666667 That's what I always say. 303 00:22:38,551.6666667 --> 00:22:41,791.6666667 I'm like, listen, you don't have to, you don't have to try to knock me down. 304 00:22:41,821.6666667 --> 00:22:51,601.6666667 Okay? I do that to myself enough, and I'm working on that still at 56 years old, right? I'm still trying to be like, listen, you know, positive thoughts, but you're right. 305 00:22:51,781.6666667 --> 00:22:58,351.6666667 The pressure is real for young women, and so the more we can help by saying, look, your body's amazing. 306 00:22:58,771.6666667 --> 00:23:00,451.6666667 You have a vagina, let's. 307 00:23:00,756.6666667 --> 00:23:05,736.6666667 Use the word and talk about it, hopefully will help too, you know, minimize that pressure. 308 00:23:06,246.6666667 --> 00:23:07,26.6666667 Yes. 309 00:23:07,206.6666667 --> 00:23:07,566.6666667 Hopefully. 310 00:23:07,566.6666667 --> 00:23:11,286.6666667 And right, and by the way, you're supposed to enjoy sex. 311 00:23:11,496.6666667 --> 00:23:12,786.6666667 Yeah, exactly. 312 00:23:12,786.6666667 --> 00:23:13,656.6666667 Exactly. 313 00:23:14,136.6666667 --> 00:23:14,466.6666667 Yeah. 314 00:23:14,646.6666667 --> 00:23:16,26.6666667 You're supposed to enjoy it. 315 00:23:16,26.6666667 --> 00:23:17,406.6666667 Yes, exactly. 316 00:23:17,406.6666667 --> 00:23:22,566.6666667 And if you don't, maybe there's something else, and maybe it's not you, maybe, yeah. 317 00:23:22,621.6666667 --> 00:23:26,886.6666667 Maybe it's not even, you could be your partner, you know what I mean? Like totally. 318 00:23:28,521.6666667 --> 00:23:29,331.6666667 Yeah. 319 00:23:29,361.6666667 --> 00:23:30,591.6666667 Yeah, exactly. 320 00:23:31,161.6666667 --> 00:23:32,781.6666667 It's probably not you. 321 00:23:33,261.6666667 --> 00:23:34,71.6666667 Exactly. 322 00:23:35,421.6666667 --> 00:23:37,221.6666667 I know, right? Everything's blame, the woman. 323 00:23:37,431.6666667 --> 00:23:38,541.6666667 Everything is blame the woman. 324 00:23:38,541.6666667 --> 00:23:52,341.6666667 And by the way, okay, this is, I don't wanna go too far down a rabbit hole, but I just met this woman at conference, right? And she said, look, all these young women in our practice are freezing their eggs at 22 or 23. 325 00:23:52,731.6666667 --> 00:23:54,771.6666667 And she said that her story was. 326 00:23:55,476.6666667 --> 00:23:59,886.6666667 So she went through IVF, which is, you know, emotionally grueling and financially grueling. 327 00:23:59,886.6666667 --> 00:24:01,671.6666667 And she tried and tried and in the end. 328 00:24:02,451.6666667 --> 00:24:08,541.6666667 Finally she, her partner was tested and it was her partner, why she couldn't get pregnant. 329 00:24:08,721.6666667 --> 00:24:12,81.6666667 But everybody assumes everybody wants to blame the woman. 330 00:24:12,141.6666667 --> 00:24:13,941.6666667 And I'm not saying we should blame the man. 331 00:24:14,181.6666667 --> 00:24:24,621.6666667 I'm just saying, look, we need to be open to investigating all the possibilities and stop making the woman the target of shame and blame enough already. 332 00:24:24,881.6666667 --> 00:24:25,61.6666667 Yes. 333 00:24:25,96.6666667 --> 00:24:26,951.6666667 Let's just absolutely, yeah. 334 00:24:27,11.6666667 --> 00:24:31,871.6666667 Be equal, right? There is male infertility. 335 00:24:32,921.6666667 --> 00:24:50,826.6666667 It's not talked about nearly as much If you see a good doctor, the doctor will make sure that your partner goes through all of the testing that should be done. 336 00:24:51,276.6666667 --> 00:24:51,636.6666667 Yep. 337 00:24:52,836.6666667 --> 00:24:58,896.6666667 That's, that is, that's a sad story. 338 00:24:58,896.6666667 --> 00:25:06,6.6666667 I mean, But your comment about a good doctor, right? I mean, the one thing that I say that I think some people think is controversial is that look. 339 00:25:06,816.6666667 --> 00:25:10,776.6666667 If you're not getting what you need from your healthcare provider, get a new healthcare provider. 340 00:25:10,866.6666667 --> 00:25:11,646.6666667 Yes. 341 00:25:12,96.6666667 --> 00:25:12,606.6666667 I mean, right. 342 00:25:12,606.6666667 --> 00:25:29,736.6666667 Get somebody, if they don't give you the time and they don't answer your questions, and you don't feel heard, and you don't feel seen, go to somebody else because this is your one vehicle, right? The only thing you can control is what you feed your body and what you feed your mind, right? And so garbage in, garbage out. 343 00:25:29,736.6666667 --> 00:25:31,416.6666667 Good things in good things out. 344 00:25:31,506.6666667 --> 00:25:34,206.6666667 If you don't feel like your provider is right. 345 00:25:35,451.6666667 --> 00:25:36,201.6666667 Move on. 346 00:25:36,231.6666667 --> 00:25:37,611.6666667 You can even go telemedicine. 347 00:25:37,691.6666667 --> 00:25:40,301.6666667 Because some people in remote places are like, well, there's only one doctor. 348 00:25:40,301.6666667 --> 00:25:44,741.6666667 Well, telemedicine, you can, you have a million choices, you know? Yes. 349 00:25:45,131.6666667 --> 00:25:48,11.6666667 And there are good ones out there. 350 00:25:48,221.6666667 --> 00:25:48,911.6666667 Yes. 351 00:25:49,61.6666667 --> 00:25:49,661.6666667 Oh my goodness. 352 00:25:49,661.6666667 --> 00:25:50,21.6666667 Yes. 353 00:25:50,21.6666667 --> 00:25:50,531.6666667 I agree. 354 00:25:51,11.6666667 --> 00:25:51,761.6666667 Yes. 355 00:25:52,1.6666667 --> 00:26:01,551.6666667 So don't settle because you might think oh, doctors, you know, they all suck or something. 356 00:26:01,841.6666667 --> 00:26:04,991.6666667 It's not true anymore. 357 00:26:05,321.6666667 --> 00:26:16,791.6666667 At least, there are female affirming doctors out there, so Totally. 358 00:26:16,851.6666667 --> 00:26:18,51.6666667 Absolutely. 359 00:26:18,441.6666667 --> 00:26:18,681.6666667 Yeah. 360 00:26:18,711.6666667 --> 00:26:22,761.6666667 Do not stay with a 'cause. 361 00:26:22,761.6666667 --> 00:26:27,111.6666667 There are really bad doctors. 362 00:26:27,111.6666667 --> 00:26:27,201.6666667 Yep. 363 00:26:28,266.6666667 --> 00:26:28,536.6666667 Yep. 364 00:26:28,566.6666667 --> 00:26:32,406.6666667 And old school mindset, old school thinking, right? Yeah. 365 00:26:32,436.6666667 --> 00:26:36,336.6666667 Like, all girls have to have an IUD, they can't be trusted. 366 00:26:36,606.6666667 --> 00:26:39,486.6666667 We've gotta take the control out of their hands. 367 00:26:39,536.6666667 --> 00:26:41,96.6666667 And I'm like, that's just not true. 368 00:26:41,396.6666667 --> 00:26:42,236.6666667 That's not true. 369 00:26:42,476.6666667 --> 00:26:47,156.6666667 Right? And I say, and I always say this to, to women, I'm like, you decide what you deserve. 370 00:26:47,711.6666667 --> 00:26:56,651.6666667 You decide what you deserve and in my office, okay, I wish you were here, by the way, I have the sign that says, strong women don't have attitudes. 371 00:26:56,711.6666667 --> 00:26:57,971.6666667 They have standards. 372 00:26:58,721.6666667 --> 00:26:59,171.6666667 Love it. 373 00:26:59,741.6666667 --> 00:27:01,421.6666667 It's like, it's not because I'm a diva. 374 00:27:01,421.6666667 --> 00:27:04,391.6666667 I have standards for myself that I should honor. 375 00:27:05,471.6666667 --> 00:27:07,121.6666667 Yes. 376 00:27:07,241.6666667 --> 00:27:12,541.6666667 And I've talked with so many women about their. 377 00:27:13,21.6666667 --> 00:27:15,181.6666667 Childbirth experiences. 378 00:27:16,261.6666667 --> 00:27:25,351.6666667 And again, I'm gonna tell my mother's stories, uh, without her permission. 379 00:27:25,351.6666667 --> 00:27:37,591.6666667 But, um, her doctor was sewing, uh, her up. 380 00:27:37,591.6666667 --> 00:27:38,491.6666667 She had some. 381 00:27:39,1.6666667 --> 00:27:40,981.6666667 Tearing after delivering. 382 00:27:40,981.6666667 --> 00:28:03,101.6666667 I think my older brother, he was in the middle of sewing her up, stitching her up and said, um, it's, it's really, it's gonna be really nice and tight and your husband's gonna love that, right? It's like. 383 00:28:03,716.6666667 --> 00:28:04,196.6666667 Come on. 384 00:28:04,716.6666667 --> 00:28:12,246.6666667 How disempowering the, in the moments after you've just brought life into this world. 385 00:28:12,996.6666667 --> 00:28:13,386.6666667 Yep. 386 00:28:14,346.6666667 --> 00:28:16,626.6666667 Your only value is to please your husband. 387 00:28:16,826.6666667 --> 00:28:20,6.6666667 That's all you are is just a little sex vehicle for your Yeah. 388 00:28:20,396.6666667 --> 00:28:21,806.6666667 She just gave life. 389 00:28:21,856.6666667 --> 00:28:22,516.6666667 It's like, yeah. 390 00:28:23,476.6666667 --> 00:28:23,866.6666667 Yeah. 391 00:28:24,316.6666667 --> 00:28:26,536.6666667 But all we're thinking about is, um. 392 00:28:28,801.6666667 --> 00:28:32,461.6666667 Your husband, like when can your husband next? Yeah. 393 00:28:33,1.6666667 --> 00:28:35,401.6666667 Use your vagina for pleasure. 394 00:28:35,911.6666667 --> 00:28:35,971.6666667 Yeah. 395 00:28:36,961.6666667 --> 00:28:40,501.6666667 I mean, that's just like, oh my God. 396 00:28:40,501.6666667 --> 00:28:44,221.6666667 Talk about old school thinking. 397 00:28:45,16.6666667 --> 00:28:45,406.6666667 Yep. 398 00:28:46,36.6666667 --> 00:28:46,426.6666667 I know. 399 00:28:46,756.6666667 --> 00:28:48,886.6666667 Can you imagine if it was reversed? Right. 400 00:28:49,96.6666667 --> 00:28:50,416.6666667 And we said that to men. 401 00:28:50,626.6666667 --> 00:28:51,676.6666667 Oh my goodness. 402 00:28:51,886.6666667 --> 00:28:53,836.6666667 We'd be back being burned at the stake. 403 00:28:53,866.6666667 --> 00:28:55,336.6666667 Yeah, I right. 404 00:28:55,396.6666667 --> 00:28:55,636.6666667 Yeah. 405 00:28:55,636.6666667 --> 00:29:05,686.6666667 It could be like, oh my God, you disrespected him, and thank you for sharing though, right? Because those stories are real and have happened to a lot of women. 406 00:29:06,286.6666667 --> 00:29:06,736.6666667 Right. 407 00:29:06,736.6666667 --> 00:29:17,86.6666667 And I feel like it's important to share those stories because so many women have experienced something like that, and they need to know that they're not alone. 408 00:29:17,506.6666667 --> 00:29:18,136.6666667 Yes. 409 00:29:18,406.6666667 --> 00:29:21,826.6666667 Because that shame it can turn inward. 410 00:29:22,366.6666667 --> 00:29:22,606.6666667 Yep. 411 00:29:23,206.6666667 --> 00:29:25,456.6666667 And be internalized. 412 00:29:25,456.6666667 --> 00:29:32,176.6666667 And that shame thrives in silence and. 413 00:29:32,686.6666667 --> 00:29:34,606.6666667 Again, blame yourself. 414 00:29:34,606.6666667 --> 00:29:35,656.6666667 Blaming yourself. 415 00:29:35,656.6666667 --> 00:29:36,706.6666667 Blaming yourself. 416 00:29:37,816.6666667 --> 00:29:38,56.6666667 Yep. 417 00:29:38,476.6666667 --> 00:29:48,956.6666667 I hate feeling silenced and like you can't share your story 'cause it's not your fault. 418 00:29:49,436.6666667 --> 00:29:49,616.6666667 Totally. 419 00:29:51,56.6666667 --> 00:29:52,706.6666667 I love that you said that. 420 00:29:52,706.6666667 --> 00:29:54,536.6666667 Shame thrives in silence. 421 00:29:54,536.6666667 --> 00:29:56,546.6666667 That's an awesome statement, by the way. 422 00:29:56,906.6666667 --> 00:29:58,226.6666667 'cause it's so true. 423 00:29:58,226.6666667 --> 00:30:02,906.6666667 And when you say it, you almost can feel it like, ugh, right? It's just Yes. 424 00:30:03,56.6666667 --> 00:30:03,506.6666667 Yeah. 425 00:30:04,556.6666667 --> 00:30:09,746.6666667 So yeah, and so unnecessary, right? In this day and age, it's just. 426 00:30:10,31.6666667 --> 00:30:10,91.6666667 It. 427 00:30:10,871.6666667 --> 00:30:11,351.6666667 Yeah. 428 00:30:11,771.6666667 --> 00:30:18,551.6666667 But you know what conversations like this are, it's like, you know what I mean? It's almost like we're lifting the veil, yes. 429 00:30:19,91.6666667 --> 00:30:25,91.6666667 And that's why that's, it's why say vagina, say a say vagina, my God. 430 00:30:25,391.6666667 --> 00:30:28,746.6666667 Like, why would we not Yeah, exactly. 431 00:30:29,651.6666667 --> 00:30:30,431.6666667 Exactly. 432 00:30:30,821.6666667 --> 00:30:31,91.6666667 I know. 433 00:30:31,91.6666667 --> 00:30:31,721.6666667 I love that. 434 00:30:31,751.6666667 --> 00:30:32,351.6666667 I love it. 435 00:30:32,351.6666667 --> 00:30:32,921.6666667 I love it. 436 00:30:33,221.6666667 --> 00:30:45,641.6666667 And you know, and you know, the funny part is, is you know, some people don't want us to say a vagina and it's interesting to see how stifled they are, how narrow-minded that thinking is. 437 00:30:45,641.6666667 --> 00:30:46,91.6666667 Right. 438 00:30:46,451.6666667 --> 00:30:49,301.6666667 And you think like, if we can just. 439 00:30:50,876.6666667 --> 00:30:54,656.6666667 Come together, all of us, and say, look, we're not gonna accept that anymore. 440 00:30:54,656.6666667 --> 00:30:55,196.6666667 We're not. 441 00:30:55,256.6666667 --> 00:30:55,676.6666667 We're not. 442 00:30:55,676.6666667 --> 00:31:05,426.6666667 And we get men and women to say, we're not going to, we are gonna create this groundswell, this tidal wave of stopping the shame. 443 00:31:05,486.6666667 --> 00:31:05,906.6666667 Right. 444 00:31:05,906.6666667 --> 00:31:09,776.6666667 It's gonna, I just feel like, I feel like. 445 00:31:11,651.6666667 --> 00:31:22,331.6666667 If we're not gonna do it, who will? The time is now let's get all of these women who have a voice, like you and like me, to just say, we're not gonna accept anything less. 446 00:31:22,511.6666667 --> 00:31:25,271.6666667 We just wanna be able to talk about our bodies without shame. 447 00:31:26,21.6666667 --> 00:31:27,671.6666667 Right? Yeah. 448 00:31:27,856.6666667 --> 00:31:30,276.6666667 Yes, absolutely. 449 00:31:31,196.6666667 --> 00:31:31,636.6666667 I mean, it's. 450 00:31:33,576.6666667 --> 00:31:35,256.6666667 It's really the bare minimum. 451 00:31:35,366.6666667 --> 00:31:36,696.6666667 Yeah, yeah. 452 00:31:37,611.6666667 --> 00:31:39,801.6666667 It's the bare, yes, it's the bare minimum. 453 00:31:40,281.6666667 --> 00:31:40,821.6666667 Yeah. 454 00:31:41,161.6666667 --> 00:31:45,391.6666667 And we're not being saucy or sassy. 455 00:31:45,391.6666667 --> 00:31:47,341.6666667 We're just, this is just like vanilla. 456 00:31:47,341.6666667 --> 00:31:48,541.6666667 This should just be vanilla. 457 00:31:49,261.6666667 --> 00:31:49,561.6666667 Yeah. 458 00:31:49,561.6666667 --> 00:31:52,21.6666667 This is like science class, like. 459 00:31:54,961.6666667 --> 00:31:55,201.6666667 Yeah. 460 00:31:55,891.6666667 --> 00:31:56,131.6666667 I know. 461 00:31:56,131.6666667 --> 00:31:56,731.6666667 I love that. 462 00:31:56,731.6666667 --> 00:31:57,421.6666667 I love that. 463 00:31:57,426.6666667 --> 00:31:59,251.6666667 I, I do, and I think it's great. 464 00:31:59,251.6666667 --> 00:32:05,431.6666667 And look, by the way, I mean, I think it's great that you were like, yeah, let's talk about this on my podcast, Say Vagina month. 465 00:32:05,431.6666667 --> 00:32:13,991.6666667 Because, you know, I mean, it's the more people who are willing to support us, I think the more people will be interested in supporting it, yeah. 466 00:32:14,741.6666667 --> 00:32:15,41.6666667 I do. 467 00:32:15,101.6666667 --> 00:32:17,441.6666667 I, I totally agree. 468 00:32:17,921.6666667 --> 00:32:18,26.6666667 I mean. 469 00:32:20,486.6666667 --> 00:32:20,876.6666667 Yeah. 470 00:32:23,846.6666667 --> 00:32:29,786.6666667 So yeah, so we're hoping, this is just the beginning and we're actually hoping, we're hoping, this is the beginning of saying vagina. 471 00:32:29,906.6666667 --> 00:32:35,516.6666667 We're hoping more women wanna say, if I don't feel as good as I should, I need to investigate that. 472 00:32:35,966.6666667 --> 00:32:36,866.6666667 Yes. 473 00:32:36,866.6666667 --> 00:32:38,186.6666667 Going out with my body. 474 00:32:38,216.6666667 --> 00:32:44,426.6666667 How can I make myself feel better? And that they look at everything and they say to themselves, okay. 475 00:32:44,756.6666667 --> 00:32:55,11.6666667 If I'm not having sex every day, if I'm don't feel good, if it's my birth control that's making me feel bad, maybe I should get all those hormones outta my body. 476 00:32:55,961.6666667 --> 00:33:01,211.6666667 Maybe I should try something with no hormones, because think about this, right? We don't want hormones in our milk. 477 00:33:01,211.6666667 --> 00:33:02,531.6666667 We don't want it in our meat. 478 00:33:02,711.6666667 --> 00:33:13,361.6666667 I joke and say, if chickens can be hormone free, why can't women? And so, you know, maybe this is the time too, that we say, no, we don't need hormones for birth control. 479 00:33:13,551.6666667 --> 00:33:14,1.6666667 Yes. 480 00:33:14,1.6666667 --> 00:33:23,1.6666667 Why do we need it? Right? And maybe we should have it as easy as men do with just buying a condom. 481 00:33:23,646.6666667 --> 00:33:24,336.6666667 A hundred percent. 482 00:33:24,736.6666667 --> 00:33:26,806.6666667 A hundred percent, yes. 483 00:33:27,106.6666667 --> 00:33:27,916.6666667 A hundred percent. 484 00:33:28,36.6666667 --> 00:33:30,706.6666667 It's like it should be easy, right? You should. 485 00:33:31,306.6666667 --> 00:33:33,166.6666667 And to take something every day. 486 00:33:33,196.6666667 --> 00:33:40,936.6666667 Like it'd be different if you were had diabetes or heart disease or something that you had to do to help your body feel better. 487 00:33:41,656.6666667 --> 00:33:49,236.6666667 But come on, when you're not having sex every day, what, why? Why do that? So, yeah, people. 488 00:33:50,526.6666667 --> 00:34:01,146.6666667 Losing weight is, has suddenly become as easy as jabbing yourself with a Yep. 489 00:34:01,236.6666667 --> 00:34:01,746.6666667 Needle. 490 00:34:02,106.6666667 --> 00:34:02,346.6666667 Yep. 491 00:34:02,376.6666667 --> 00:34:02,976.6666667 Yeah, needle. 492 00:34:03,756.6666667 --> 00:34:04,176.6666667 Yeah. 493 00:34:04,686.6666667 --> 00:34:05,46.6666667 Yeah. 494 00:34:05,256.6666667 --> 00:34:18,186.6666667 Actually, you know what's crazy? You know what's crazy is that you just brought this up and I promise I won't be too verbose, but when women are on a GLP one, so Ozempic Manjaro, when they're on any of those weight loss drugs. 495 00:34:18,546.6666667 --> 00:34:22,86.6666667 And their birth control is oral birth control. 496 00:34:22,176.6666667 --> 00:34:23,16.6666667 So listen to this. 497 00:34:23,376.6666667 --> 00:34:36,636.6666667 In the label, it actually says, if you are on oral birth control, the first four weeks, you're on the GLP one, and every time your dose is increased, you have to have a backup method. 498 00:34:36,696.6666667 --> 00:34:38,16.6666667 Otherwise you can get pregnant. 499 00:34:38,811.6666667 --> 00:34:40,611.6666667 And so many women weren't told. 500 00:34:40,671.6666667 --> 00:34:46,11.6666667 And all over the internet, you see Ozempic babies, majaro babies, and these women wanna lose weight. 501 00:34:46,41.6666667 --> 00:34:47,121.6666667 They don't wanna get pregnant. 502 00:34:47,421.6666667 --> 00:34:48,746.6666667 Right? They're not trying to get pregnant. 503 00:34:49,221.6666667 --> 00:34:51,891.6666667 Okay? And so, and so ready. 504 00:34:51,891.6666667 --> 00:34:56,861.6666667 And the only birth control that won't interact with the GLP one is PHEXXI. 505 00:34:57,561.6666667 --> 00:35:04,761.6666667 So it's like you could stay on your birth control pill, but you better have a backup method every time you have sex if you don't wanna get pregnant. 506 00:35:05,451.6666667 --> 00:35:07,851.6666667 And so that's also crazy. 507 00:35:08,31.6666667 --> 00:35:26,841.6666667 And by the way, those products are growing like wildfire, right? Everybody wants to use them, but if they're on oral birth control, they really need to be mindful and careful that if they don't wanna get pregnant, they should have a backup method because otherwise they'll find themselves in a very different situation than losing weight. 508 00:35:26,991.6666667 --> 00:35:27,741.6666667 It's crazy. 509 00:35:28,101.6666667 --> 00:35:31,11.6666667 Wow, I didn't know that. 510 00:35:31,11.6666667 --> 00:35:32,241.6666667 And I wonder if. 511 00:35:33,186.6666667 --> 00:35:39,756.6666667 All of the women I know who are partaking, I wonder if they know that. 512 00:35:40,626.6666667 --> 00:35:40,926.6666667 Yeah. 513 00:35:41,16.6666667 --> 00:35:42,846.6666667 Well, honestly, and a lot of women don't. 514 00:35:42,846.6666667 --> 00:35:52,146.6666667 By the way, a lot of women don't know it because the makers of the GLP ones aren't really promoting talking about that part, right? Yeah. 515 00:35:52,176.6666667 --> 00:35:55,326.6666667 They're just talking about diabetes and losing weight. 516 00:35:55,746.6666667 --> 00:35:57,156.6666667 So it's really. 517 00:35:57,711.6666667 --> 00:36:03,951.6666667 Interesting that message isn't out more, but we try to talk about it all the time to say, look, protect yourself. 518 00:36:04,261.6666667 --> 00:36:05,791.6666667 Like you said, knowledge is power. 519 00:36:05,941.6666667 --> 00:36:12,661.6666667 You just need to know if you're on oral birth control and you're on these drugs to lose weight, use a backup method, yeah. 520 00:36:13,471.6666667 --> 00:36:14,476.6666667 Yeah, exactly. 521 00:36:14,836.6666667 --> 00:36:20,206.6666667 Because can you imagine, then you're like, oh my God, how did this happen? I take the pill every day. 522 00:36:20,416.6666667 --> 00:36:22,86.6666667 How did I get pregnant? Yeah. 523 00:36:22,91.6666667 --> 00:36:22,291.6666667 Yeah. 524 00:36:23,251.6666667 --> 00:36:40,741.6666667 So anyway, but yeah, it's good to talk about this stuff too, right? So that women will listening will know, yeah, this is what, this is what women need to do is talk about all of this stuff, because it's not in the ether. 525 00:36:40,741.6666667 --> 00:36:41,281.6666667 I don't know. 526 00:36:41,281.6666667 --> 00:36:43,391.6666667 It's just it, it's true. 527 00:36:43,481.6666667 --> 00:36:44,381.6666667 It's not, yeah. 528 00:36:44,386.6666667 --> 00:36:44,546.6666667 Yeah. 529 00:36:45,431.6666667 --> 00:36:49,601.6666667 And you know what too? I really believe women, women wanna help each other. 530 00:36:49,601.6666667 --> 00:36:51,731.6666667 We wanna support each other, right? We do. 531 00:36:51,731.6666667 --> 00:36:52,151.6666667 We do. 532 00:36:52,151.6666667 --> 00:36:52,391.6666667 We do. 533 00:36:52,391.6666667 --> 00:36:52,811.6666667 Absolutely. 534 00:36:53,531.6666667 --> 00:37:10,421.6666667 We're the collaborators, right? We're the glue of so many things that the more we can help each other and tell each other information and you know, it, it's just gonna, life will be so much better the more we feel good about having each other's back all the time, yes. 535 00:37:10,661.6666667 --> 00:37:12,221.6666667 And it's probably gonna be, it's. 536 00:37:13,556.6666667 --> 00:37:15,956.6666667 It's the only way really. 537 00:37:16,46.6666667 --> 00:37:19,416.6666667 I think that, it's what we've got. 538 00:37:19,476.6666667 --> 00:37:31,466.6666667 It's what we've got and it's how we are strong is telling our stories to each other and when we figure something out, pass it on. 539 00:37:32,786.6666667 --> 00:37:32,996.6666667 Yes. 540 00:37:33,926.6666667 --> 00:37:35,66.6666667 Yeah, it's true. 541 00:37:35,96.6666667 --> 00:37:35,606.6666667 You're right. 542 00:37:35,606.6666667 --> 00:37:36,656.6666667 Pass it on. 543 00:37:36,956.6666667 --> 00:37:37,496.6666667 Yes. 544 00:37:37,616.6666667 --> 00:37:38,996.6666667 That's what creates the power. 545 00:37:38,996.6666667 --> 00:37:42,356.6666667 Pass it on, right? It's really, yeah. 546 00:37:42,416.6666667 --> 00:37:43,196.6666667 I love that. 547 00:37:43,256.6666667 --> 00:37:43,856.6666667 I love that. 548 00:37:43,856.6666667 --> 00:37:44,276.6666667 I love that. 549 00:37:44,276.6666667 --> 00:37:44,936.6666667 I love that. 550 00:37:44,966.6666667 --> 00:38:09,871.6666667 Because you know women, and by the way we have so many things to manage in our lives, you know? And so, just knowing all this information, even for what I love about the women I know is that even if they're not doing something or on something, or for example, not on a weight loss drug, they say, Hey, I don't know if you're on it, but just in case, if you're on, you know, birth control, like that's what it is, pass it on because you don't know who you're gonna help. 551 00:38:10,411.6666667 --> 00:38:10,741.6666667 Yes. 552 00:38:10,741.6666667 --> 00:38:12,511.6666667 You know? Yes. 553 00:38:15,406.6666667 --> 00:38:17,356.6666667 This has been so awesome. 554 00:38:18,376.6666667 --> 00:38:18,396.6666667 Thank you. 555 00:38:18,406.6666667 --> 00:38:20,296.6666667 Thank you so much. 556 00:38:20,536.6666667 --> 00:38:21,526.6666667 Thank you for having me. 557 00:38:22,276.6666667 --> 00:38:23,596.6666667 This is really great. 558 00:38:24,406.6666667 --> 00:38:27,736.6666667 You're doing such important work. 559 00:38:29,101.6666667 --> 00:38:29,611.6666667 Thank you. 560 00:38:29,641.6666667 --> 00:38:37,651.6666667 So are you, by the way, I mean, I love your whole thing about how can you be an ally? It's exactly what we just said, right? We need so many. 561 00:38:37,651.6666667 --> 00:38:39,211.6666667 It, I just really love it. 562 00:38:39,211.6666667 --> 00:38:48,841.6666667 I love the whole foundation of your message because if we treated each other that way all the time, the world is gonna shift in good ways. 563 00:38:49,471.6666667 --> 00:38:50,41.6666667 Yes. 564 00:38:51,31.6666667 --> 00:38:51,361.6666667 Yeah. 565 00:38:51,901.6666667 --> 00:38:52,441.6666667 Thank you. 566 00:38:54,871.6666667 --> 00:38:55,486.6666667 Well, I'm gonna. 567 00:38:57,1.6666667 --> 00:39:04,411.6666667 Put all of your information in the show notes we, we should keep in touch and yeah. 568 00:39:04,411.6666667 --> 00:39:05,551.6666667 This is wonderful. 569 00:39:05,581.6666667 --> 00:39:06,421.6666667 Thank you again. 570 00:39:06,871.6666667 --> 00:39:07,441.6666667 Thank you back. 571 00:39:07,441.6666667 --> 00:39:08,71.6666667 I love that. 572 00:39:08,71.6666667 --> 00:39:12,211.6666667 And thank, and by the way, if there's anything I can ever do and anything that can be helpful, don't hesitate. 573 00:39:12,211.6666667 --> 00:39:13,531.6666667 I loved meeting you. 574 00:39:14,551.6666667 --> 00:39:14,791.6666667 Yes. 575 00:39:15,391.6666667 --> 00:39:15,601.6666667 Yeah. 576 00:39:15,601.6666667 --> 00:39:20,311.6666667 Thank you for supporting us and thank you for supporting the say Vagina Month and thank you so much for your time.