Mama, We Made It! On Success and Preparation

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The faking till you make it...
Once you start feeling really, reallynatural.
to steal, lie.
Take...I thought somebody hit somebody else.
Got D@*#. In somebody's strip club.
Making it rain with no guilt.Just like...money
gun!! My unofficial rival, Tom Brady
I was going to say capitalism.

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Hey y'all.
Welcome to this episode of Hustling with Harges.
I'm Courtney, theater maker.
So we're knitter, nonprofit strategist,and certified TV nerd.
I'm here with my co-creatorand real life sibling.
What's good everybody.
I'm Tyrone, motion designer,3D artist, animator,
self-proclaimed King of the nerds and cardcarrying film snob.
And yes, I'm the younger sibling,which means I bring the innovation

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and the petty.
This podcast is our creative living room,a space for deep
convos, pop culture mess,entrepreneurial chaos, and sibling joy.
Whether you're a maker,
a dreamer, a burnt out artistor just nosy, this show is for you.
So let's build something dope together.
So pull up, subscribe, text your cousinand let's get into person with
the heart isbig deal. Courtney. What's up?

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Hey. What's up?
What is up?
Oh, girl,this week was why this was a while tweak.
It was just.
I don't know if Mercury was in Gatorade.
I don't know if Saturn was in Powerade.
I don't know for.
Somebody say Mercury is in the microwave.
In the microwave.
I don't know what it was, but it was like,you know what?

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Hey, all those thingsyou think you know how to do,
you don't, and the things that you werereading to learn how to do it also wrong.
And, this conversationthat you're actively in
right now, it's not goingthe way you think it's going.
It really was just a week of,I said this to a few people,
but it's been a week of just, like,minor inconveniences, which is fine.
You know, we're in a world where theresome real tragedy at stake.

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And so, I want to honor and recognize
that there are some very hard thingsgoing on for many, many people.
And this week has been annoying as hell.
Just hit on the little stuffthat turned into big stuff that's,
you know, ultimately everybody, over hereis fine, which is, a blessing.
I'm not diminishing that at all, butit was just like, who could catch a break?

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Maybe. I'm just glad it's Monday.
Yeah, it's just a new week.
We start fresh, right?
Definitely. In the new days.
New days?
You know,today's we have our good coffee.
Today's coffee is brought to youby September.
Good old September.
But all September,you are in Brooklyn, in Bed-Stuy.
And this is not sponsored.We just like this so much.

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We just love them And Septemberhas been, our home away from home.
So the unofficial heart headquarters.
And if you can get to September,
you might be able to get some fancyhassling with artist stickers.
So if you know where it isand you are in Brooklyn,
like, that's the placeyou might even run into a heart or two.
I'm excited for this week.
I know last weekwe talked, so much or last episode,

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we talked, just about the work andreally get to deep dive into our process.
Last week was a long with y'all.
So I hope you stuck with us,
we really got to learn a lotabout each other's processes
and each other's, kind of working styles,which is always fun.
And so this week,we are going to talk a bit about success.
I'm excitedfor us to get to our main moment. Yes.
Going into it, to see what a success mean

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to us, it's like having,I don't know, a deep dive.
You know, we get into the conversationat this point, but before we get there,
we're going to jump into our first segment.
Sibling shout outs.
You. caught.
Who's your sibling?Shout out for the week.
So my second shout out for this weekis, they're actually I believe

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they have more siblings,
but it's the two is Craig and Jessicafrom Craig of the Creek, right? Yes.
I love, Jessica's big world, karate Kid.
And I wasn't a huge I wasn't.
It's not thatI wasn't a fan of Craig for Creek.
But I neverI just didn't watch it initially.
And then I saw some episodesand I was like, no, this shows amazing.
And I just love these,like, self-governed worlds.

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these children have built societiesthat are functional.
We really need to learn a lotabout running a cohesive society
where everybody gets to do their partfrom Craig Creek.
And just as Big World is, you know,just about her imagination and also what
it means to be like a little kidtransitioning into a big kid.
Like, what does that mean?
And like, I'm 41 years old, y'all,and I'm learning stuff from Jessica.

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I was just like, no,that is how we should deal with stress.
We should communicatewell with our friends.
Craig and Jessica of Craig,
the Creek and Jessica's big worldfor leading the way, what it could be.
have such a deep rooted connectionto Craig because I believe Craig is me
growing up, going into this,like we didn't necessarily have a creek,
but we did have like a parkthat was, you know, self-governed

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and specifically with my two white friendsor my two,
my two non-black friendswho were they could see them.
And so,like watching Craig deal with this,
deal with, you know, not deal withbut like have this life that very much
mimics mine is a really greatand beautiful thing to watch.
My siblings are two sisters.

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I icons in their own right.
Khloe and Haley Bailey. eye.
They're just what more can.
What can you say about themthat hasn't been said already?
So talented.
also there for each other.
Do not come for one sister and expectthat to go unanswered.
Like And Bailey's stick togetherthere for them.

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I love yes, peak sibling energy peaksand that's the type of energy that I got.
Period. Come for one of us.
Come for all of us. Amazing.
So yes,
our shout outs, Craig and Jessicaof Craig Creek and Haley and Chloe Bailey.
Excellent. Excellent siblings.
This also flies into, dayfive of our dynamic duos of dynamic duo

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countdowns where we just respectfullyrequest our honor that one or both
sets of our favorite creative siblings, make it here.
And those creative siblings
are Debbie Allen and PhyliciaRashad and Willow and Jaden Smith.
I'll show up here I wasit'll be the right balance of creativity.
Weird making things.
One day they will make it here.

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So welcome to day five.
That actually leads meto just a random question.
It's like, is there a spacewhere those two sets of siblings
have ever been photographed together?
Somebody definitely
somebody is like, like lifetimeachievement award, right?
I'm sure they've and I'msure they've been in the same spaces.
Right.
Just based onjust being famous for forever.

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Yeah. And having to be in the same space.
But I was curious if they have been a,
if there is a photographof the four of them,
I'm sure you know,Google can answer this question for us,
but I'm curious I think it's definitelysomebody is like, you know, it's
like they're Belafonte's like lifetimeachievement award or they can make that.
Would that would be the place whereYeah. No, I'm sure it was an event.
I'm just curious to know whatthat was like.

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Well, with that, we are going to shiftinto our main moment.
Now is the time for the main moment.
The part of the showwhere we dig a little deeper.
Whether it's creativity, culture,chaos or care.
This is where we pull the threadand see what unravels.
So for this episode'smain moment, we're talking about
success,particularly our relationship to success.

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Because success is one differentfor everybody,
I think And it can be really complicatedbecause, you know, to be as political
as I want to be.
we're living in a worldcurrently kind of run by people
who have all the trappings of successand do not like themselves enough,
which to me is not success,not even kind of a little bit
way to have everythingand still like, deal with insecurity.

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Anyway, we're going to get deep into it.
We're going to talk about these things.
But, yeah, successis the theme of our conversation today.
And so I'm goingto ask the first question,
or do you think you've achieved success?
What a great question.
I don't think I have I thinkI'm in the process of achieving success,

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and I think that what I am doingwill be successful,
but I don't thinkI have achieved my pillar of success.
I think I have done successful things,and I think I have achieved,
a certain levelof, of like a successful mentality.
But I don't thinkI have reached my idea of success yet.

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what would you describeas your idea of success?
My idea of successwould be like the people that I love
or taking care of the stories I want totell are being told at its highest level
with the, grace and beautythat I think that I know it can achieve.
And I am helping other peopletell their stories

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to their highest levelthat they can achieve.
I'm also balling, blown out of controlscience.
control.
That is less on the totem pole of successfor me, but it is on their.
You got to have one like bio to ClubFantasy.
Absolutely.
One where it's like I'm here,drinks on me, drinks on me, and especially

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where we come from,that's going to be achievable.
Low cost of living, What about you?
Have you achieved success?
You know, still a great question.
Yes and no.
I don't think success is like a stateof being in the sense of like,
okay, you get to it like you've goneto this place and now you are successful.

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Like, I've like, like a switchor like a Pokemon evolution,
You definitely tapped in on that one.
or it's like, you know, Courtneyhas transformed into success.
Like,that's not how I think success works.
It's just not how I view it.
And I have been able to accomplish
lot of the external things that I wanted.
You know, it's like if there's a list of,
like, check this box or check that box,I've gotten to do a lot of that.

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I think the thing that I'm kind of most
proud of successfully is like,I've managed to do a lot of things
I wanted to doand maintain my integrity while doing it.
So I like me still, which is great.
And I like the things that I've done,even though some of the things
have not turned out successfully,
or eventhose things have have changed or shifted,

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or even I thought it's like, oh, it'sI don't want to do this thing.
And I got to do it. And I was like, this.
It was kind of wackyeah, I've definitely done it
right where you're like, oh,I thought this is a big deal.
And this turned out,oh, it is not a big deal.
Or they think it's a big deal,but everybody in here is kind of terrible.
So I have definitely gottento achieve a lot of the things

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that I've wanted to achieve.
I, you know, I'm tryingconsistently I'm trying
to consistently get to new thingsand like to grow and to make more stuff.
So I don't feel that I haveI haven't reached a level of success
with that doesn't have like a hustleat the end of the day
where it's like,oh, I don't have to worry about anything.

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I it's and that's would be kind of a dreamfor me where it's like, okay,
do I know where all of like, do I knowwhere my next clients are coming from?
Do I know if this product didn't
get funded during, like having, like, the ability to just
coast isn't the right word because that'sI don't I'm not necessarily a coaster.
I can relax or whatever, butI do like to know, okay, what are the ways
in which I can, you know, good oldBronco style, set it and forget it.

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Do I know, oh, my bills are paid.
Do I know that,the people I love are taking care of?
Do I know that? Like, I can do this?
Whatever creative thing and also still,you know, be able to stay,
comfortable and stable,I haven't gotten there yet.
But I also feel really confident

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in saying the word confidentwith an upward inflection like that.
Doesn't that say, like,you don't sound confident?
I guess that's not it, thatI felt confident.
I wasn't sure what the word that I wanted.
If that was the word I wanted to say.
But I feel really confidentin my skill set

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and in my capacityto do the things I want to do.
And so that's a level of successalways want to learn.
I'm always trying to grow.
But I do feel like, oh, okay,I see the world in this way,
and I see these problemsand I see the work that I want to do,
and I'm getting clearer and cleareron what my relationship to that work
is going to be, and that I andand knowing that I have the skill set

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to show up in the way that I want to,What does success mean to you?
To Success means to me that I am.
I have reached a level of creativity
where my art is my income.
Where, like,I don't have to be making $1 trillion.
I very, you know, I want to be balling outnow, but I will make $1 trillion.
I will make $1 trillion. Right.

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I don't want, dear Universe,don't have to make that.
But that doesn't mean that likethat is on the line.
Like if you see that in our future, don'tbe like, oh, well, they don't want that.
That's not, that's not,that's not what you said.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
I'm saying we could figure out happinessand support with less,
That doesn't mean thatwe don't want the trillion dollars aside,

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I want to be able to to think of something
have a team to build it, build the thing,and then put the thing out in the world.
And then to me, that is success.
Like getting paid, having sponsorships,doing the things, being able to.
And I want to get paid so I can paythe people that I'm working with.
Lovely, healthy living wagethat they don't have to worry

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about what they're going to eat next.
I want to be successful in the way thatmy success spread success to other people.
That is real.
Yeah, I my version of success is almostalways like, what?
How can I do the work I want to doand give my friends space to do it?
As well. Like, how can I?
I feel like my, my ideas or my fantasiesaround success have always been like,

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not only do I want to do the thing,but these are all the people I want.
Also being able to do their thing with me.
have our list of questions,
as always, and one of themwhich I'm skipping ahead to,
but we're going to come back tobut is like, who is somebody
who's living a version of successyou like?
And, Tara knows this,but I've been very deep
in my dropout samurai canon. Right.
And for anybody who isn't familiar,although I frankly, the the overlap of,

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like, if you're listening to our podcastin Air nerd a little bit, when I say
drop out and or Sam Reisz,you know who I'm talking about.
But for those who don't know, Dropout is,a channel, a channel,
a content channel, a subscriptionservice, owned and operated by Sam Rice.
Robert Rice, his son.
But it is called dropout because it was,

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many of the staff and writersand, production folks from College Humor.
And when College Humor foldedor had to be sold, they sold it to Sam.
And Sam made dropout, which is greatbecause it goes from College Humor
to Dropout. It's an excellent pun.
I don't think people appreciate the punenough for me.

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They write, I love it, but it also tellsyou a bit about they are.
so this channel has so much content.
But it's very it's,it's really nerd centric, in that it's,
you know, there's dimension 20,which is an amazing actual play.
The indie game,it really is a group of people who,

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come from the improv scene, particularlylike Upright Citizens Brigade.
It's a variety of,you know, Second City folks.
it's clearly a collection of supertalented friends who clearly work
hard and, So workhard, are very dedicated to their craft,
are silly as hell, but are friendsand so they can do things
on the subscription networkthat would not fly anywhere else.

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One, because it's subscription,it is web based.
So you have to sign into the app
so it doesn't go on TV or whateverto level of trust with this community.
It's just so highthat the shenanigans are are intense.
And the thing that you can only dowith your friends,
there are some really great interviewsthat Sam, and other Dropbox have done,

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really talking about the structure,
the business modelthat they are operating with.
Right.
And so one like profit sharing,
they profit share with everybody based onhowever however much you work
so if you only are like and down tothe percent of the production assistant.
So let's say you're a production assistantfor one show for like two days.

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You still get a bit of the profit share.
That's, you know, proratedfor the two days you worked.
Right. That's so they pay, right?
They pay for auditions.
They say
even thoughthey haven't hosted auditions for a while
because they have a pool of peoplethey work with.
But if you if they ask you to comein, if they're saying, hey, come here,
do this labor, they'll pay you.
They, have a processon that canceling shows partially

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because it allows folksto one kind of walk away from a show
if they have bigger gig
or if they have a different projectthey want to work on,
or if they have some other space, butthen they can come back and pick it up.
And because they aren't beholdento like, network sponsors and or aren't
trapping people in contractsthat they can't, do other work with,
like they don't have to just say,well, we're never doing this thing again.
They can just be we're not goingto do this right now or, you know, it.

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It maybe it didn't hit.
And so they get to continue to iterateand practice and, experiment
in ways that are fun and healthyand creative and moneymaking.
Drop out costs again, not sponsored,but drop out
has, $59 a year to subscribe.
Or it also has a monthly feethat it might be nine, $10.
And they announced like two monthsbefore their prices were going to go up

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from what I believewas 59 to 69 for new subscribers,
not changing for current subscribers.So it was really rewarding.
Folks who'd already participated,went up to $69 a month
and people were like, that's you'renot charging us enough money.
They got a response.
Their audience was like,that feels like not enough money.
So they also get additional things.

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And I was like,I'm just so into SEMrush. And
his ability to both be really consciousof the business like it is a channel.
It does have needs,but knowing his audience
and having such respectfor both his audience and his team,
that the creativity is fed by all of thatand it's really successful, I love it.

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I want to completely model juicebased off that.
Like,I think it's an amazing business model.
I think it it's a creator first platform,which I am.
You know, me very much like people forwardbusiness thoughts,
which in my headsounded better thinking about,
That'swhere something I'm really excited about.

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I really want to figure outhow to not leverage, but how to like,
push juice and our creative, aspirationsto something of that level
that like at the point of likewhere people are always looking for
and this is my soapbox,
is that like,I feel like a lot of specifically black
creatives are always looking for fundingor looking for something
that that can helpthem pushed into the next level.

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And a lot of institutions, specifically
a lot of white institutions, aren'teven looking in the direction of them.
And they're and they're pushingreally great, beautiful things.
But there's only so many powerful,like, creative
black people in the industrythat are one willing to push that
into willing to like, put moneywhere their mouth is to fund stuff.

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And like, I would love to be that studiowhere it's just like, not only do you have
the funding that you need,you also have a place
where you can showcase itin front of people and like you,
maybe you start here,then you push to something else.
But like, I just want to be that.I just want to.
I've always wanted to be that platform.
That's amazing.
I also want to, there are a few things.
One, I really appreciate the ideathat, it is hard.

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It is hard to like, get people toto a lot of people like things.
They're like, oh, this is great.
And then you're like, okay,but I need you to help pay for it somehow.
And then all of a sudden it's like, nope,no thank you.
And so it is, my life.
It's a challenge to get over the humpfrom, like, the.
Yes, this is good.
And it would be valuable to be like,okay, well,

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for you to do that,I need you to pay for it.
Because in people, it it's a verydifferent it's a different twist.
It's a different, ask.
The other thing
I kind of want to sayabout what you're saying,
that's connected againto drop out and Sam. Right.
Is that he's so clear about, like,what we're doing over here
that like, there are some comediansand I don't know names.

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I don't work for them.I don't know enough about it.
But there are some comedianswho don't necessarily like that.
They can't be as like, edgy
and or mean as they want to beand drop out like drop out has.
It's a very specific type of humor.
It's very clear where it's like.
Part of what happens here, though, is wewe lean into positivity.
It does not mean that we aren't edgyor funny.

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They're very funny.
We're just not unkind.
We're just aren't unkind.
And that type of kind of edgelordhumor, it's
just not like whatwe're going to do over here.
And some folks just don't like that.They want to push.
They want tothey want to punch down a bit more.
They want to,they want to like, play in that space.
And that's a choice. Folks can do that.
But being able to say, nope,that's not how we're going to do this

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here, like, allows for the,a really specific clarity.
And there is something that I think
happens in the world where sometimes folkssay having these types of limits
or I won't even call them standardsbecause it implies, just like a judgment.
I understand their know,the South Park folks
have made a lot of money on the exactopposite premise. Right?
And so I'm I'm not sayingyou can't do that.

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But I am saying is sometimes people saythat creativity can't,
have those limits like you have just like,let it be free or whatever.
And my argument is not being really clearon, like, what the boundaries are
or being really clearon having these parameters
actually allows people to be more creativebecause they can push as far as they can

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in those parameters, because they knowwhat's safe, they know what's going to.
Be in play.
Yeah, it's it's definitely more like,okay, so here are the boundaries.
You got full range within these.
You can do whatever you wantin these boundaries
These are clear boundaries.
And these boundaries while clearart not telling you to go to the moon.

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We're telling you to make a joke.But don't be an asshole,
right?
right. Or even like like. Yes. Example.
We were watching, this episode,this episode, it's a Sam says episode.
And so it's basically like Simon says,all the things that Sam says.
And in itthere is a naked photo of his father
that he clearly askedfor all the permissions or whatever.

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But like material paper of laborpublished in
and he Sam as the host says,Sam says you can't look at this photo
and he describes itand the photo shows up on the screen,
and the contestantshave to look everywhere but the screen.
But when you watch the behind the scenes,there's a brief talking about
how he got an essence consentfrom all the staff and from the team,

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and clearly from his dadto show this photo, to talk about.
It's like, okay, we're going to do thisedgy kind of thing.
And to get the photo is not sexual, thatit's not it's a it's a hilarious photo.
It's like a wooden nymph.
He's right.
There's a there's a flute.
He's a field of flowers. It's hilarious.
But the conversation with the team,it's like, okay, one, we're going to have

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a conversation about like,this is the space.
We're going to show this naked photo.
This is what the photo entails.This is the consent.
We got to show it, and getting the teamto be like if you're not,
if you don't want to witnessthe naked photo, like, that's fine.
And I was like, yes,this is an edgy, funny joke.
But he also didall of the labor to prepare folks for

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so that it wasn't harmful,so that nobody had to just be like,
you know, here's a former secretaryof labors, you know, twig and berries.
was no
with nocontext and with no ability consent.
And that was like and the thingsto go back to my point earlier,
the things they get away withbecause they have consent are bananas

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because they ask for that support.
Bananas if you haven't watched one,
if you have $6,I highly suggest getting a drop out
subscription to if you are thinking ofbuilding a platform in any way.
Also, get a drop out subscription. Three.
It is a phenomenal loveletter to sketch comedy,

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but also to the power of making
something consensual with your friends.
Like the jokes your friends make.
Like this is how I seedrop out is a giant group chat
that is like, okay,we all understand that these are
the things we're going to say, yeah,I love it.
I'm cool, I'm cool, I'm cool. Great.

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We're about to really push the boundariesfor friendship
in the best,beautiful, most consensual way possible.
But we're about to be really.We're about to get real weird with it.
And it's and it's beautifuland it's really great.
And I love, I love I think it's aphenomenal streaming service.
I will also add, to just continue to gooff, but I do think it shows success.

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And like people who are, modelingreally well, like the other,
I think the other side of the same coinor somebody who I think is also doing,
something similarthat I'm just really into
is Kevin Fredericks,otherwise known as, Kev on stage?
Yes. Kev on stage.
you haven't watched any of his content,you're also missing out, and I there is,
There is a, like,two sides of the same coin as I look at,

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Kevin Fredericks and Sam Bricevery similarly,
partially because they are very different,but they're also so very grounded
in who they are. Just who they arehappens to be very different.
But they are actuallydoing much of the same thing,
just with a very different manifestation,
I am sure that and this is total lawthat exists only in my head

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is that they show up at like,like streaming CEO conversations.
It's like, you know, it's like, Netflix and Hulu and Disney Plus.
And here's Kev on stage.
Same. Right?
Just like, hello.
Like we're just here loving it out,doing what we want to do.

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No, we're not going to change our thing.
We're going to keep our same concept.We're not going to listen to you guys.
We're just here so we don't get fined.
Yeah I mean but their ability is like.
So you know Kevin very groundedand a very black ascetic, very church
driven esthetic, without necessarilyhaving to be preachy at all.
It's but also like gathering and buildingplatforms for his friends,

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like making it a point to be like,
I'm working on this,
and everybody who is hustling with meis also going to eat off of this.
making Kevin say studios where he's like,we know we produce things we like,
making, the tour is making the podcasts, like,
what is the content we can generatethat gets all of my people together.

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It gets us all in the same spacemoving forward, so that if again,
if I eat, everybody eats
and having a really clearpoint of view about who he's working with
and he's trying to doand so that some people aren't in it,
the people, it's like,no, just you just aren't aligned.
That's what we're doing.I don't hate you. It's just you.
You're not there.You're not in the same in the same space.

(27:15):
And it's not about like,oh, you can't sit with us.
It's just more like, no, you don't.
I'm so clear about what we're doing thatyou don't want to sit with us
because this is what we do over here.
And you said it perfectly on theif I eat, everybody eats
like this is not awe're not selfish over here.
Like, this is athis is a collaborative experience

(27:37):
and and a community driven process.
And I don't you know, and I thinkand this is a totally tangent
because, you know, welcome to the hustlehardest podcast kind of what we do.
I think the community driven
aspect is deeply rooted in usas black people, like building something

(27:57):
and then being like, okay,who else needs help?
How can I help you?
Is it monetary?
And I think that the thing that sitswith me that that my vision of success
is that when a momentwhere somebody is like, oh, I just need
the money is the easiest part it's like,I had the idea,
I had the team, we've testedit, we've done all the things.

(28:19):
I just don't have the funds for it.
And if I'm somebody who can be like,is that all?
If that's all you need,let's do this then.
Like, that's my level of that'swhat I want to do.
I want to just be like,fine, here's a check.
Go do the thing now.
It's a real desire. Yeah. It's like,I just want to.
I want everybody to eat, I want to,I want to eat.
I want everybody to eat.I want us to be together. And I get so.

(28:40):
I get so frustratedwhen I'm seeing people.
Who feel like the only way they peaksuccessful is to, like, cut
somebody else's legs out from under them,or who feel like they have to backstab.
Or it's like, well,I have to get you before you get me.
And I was just like that is not howI want to move in the world.
That actually leads, to this next question.
And I'm gonna I'm gonna ask an answerfirst because I'm connected.

(29:01):
I'm on a roll a little bit.
But the next question is, how are, youknow, how are you preparing for success?
And I've said this before,maybe not on the show, but I have said,
just in general, that like one of the waysin preparing for success
is having practices to like myselfwith what I've got,
because so many people say,okay, well, I'll be kind when I get power

(29:25):
or when once I get money,I'm going to xyzzy or,
you know, well, let me get in the systemand then I'll change it from, from within.
And I'm not saying you can't do that.
However, karma, thingthat is, the thing that I've seen happen
and this is a quote
that I think about all the time from, Adrian Marie Brown, where she talks about,
you are what you practiceand if what you're practicing.

(29:47):
And I might have misquoted it,but I'm going to find it.
But it's the concept is still the same.You are what you practice.
And it's the thingthat you are practicing at any given
moment is backstabbing, islying, is deceit, is exploitation.
That's the thingyou're going to get better at.
That's the that's the thingyou're going to get better at.
You're going to get really, really good.

(30:07):
And it's going to start feeling really,really natural to just steal,
lie, take,have no loyalty, have no alliances.
And then you trick yourselfinto thinking that that is
that's just naturally how you are.
like, no, baby, this is what you practice.
This is what you learned how to do.
Your right.

(30:28):
It's like.
And now you're saying,well, humans are just like this,
and you use that to justifyyou being terrible.
it's like, no, you've just been practicingbeing terrible for so long now.
It's just now it is who you are.
that's not who you have to be.
And so one of the ways I prepare forsuccess is in many ways,
acting like I already got it.
I don't, but but the faking

(30:49):
til you make it is it's right.
I think people take people do that wrong.
I think people fake ittil you make it wrong. Right?
Because the way I prepare for successis saying it's like if I need to practice
generosity and kindness and community now.
So when I do have all of it,it's not foreign to me.
I don't.
Because because being kind,being vulnerable is really hard.

(31:11):
And particularlywhen you're trying to share something
and you only have a little bitto share you, only you.
Great.
Like if I got $5and I got a practice sharing that 250,
you can split it in the middle.That can be hard.
But if you can't share 250,even if it's 50% of what you have,
don't have any skills share.Half a million.

(31:31):
Right. Right.
If if you don't knowhow to share your sandwich
when that's the last thing what you got.
If you don't know how to get to
what your body does when that happens,you're not going to share that deal.
You're not going to not going to trustanybody when you need to trust them,
like you're going toyour skills are all going to be
on the protect yourselfwalls up, armor up space.

(31:55):
And that'swhat you're going to know how to do.
And that'swhat you're going to be good at.
And so part of the waysI prepare for success really
is practicing the vulnerabilityof trust, of collaboration.
Early.
Because when I havewhen everybody can eat,
I don't want to be over here
guarding the tablebecause I don't know what it's like
for other people to have access to it.
Yeah.Before you go full Dragon mode right.

(32:17):
Right. Just hoarding stuff.
Just curled around the pile of money like,no, they'll take it.
It's like, absolutely they will.
I'm inviting them to take it.
I'm comfortable with taking it.
And I know what my limits are.
So I know it's like, all right, hey,this is too much. This is what I can't do.
This is what I can't pressurebecause I'm practiced and continue
to practice at setting those boundariesand setting, my preparation for success.
Like, now. I love that.I love that so much.

(32:39):
it's very closely mimicsto how I am also preparing for success.
I am preparing for successthrough kindness, through collaboration,
through generosity.
I'm also preparing for successin the sense of like manifesting,
in my manifestations are differentthan other people's manifestations,
in the sense of like, yes,I want the big house and I want the,

(33:00):
you know, and I say a big house.
I really just,I really just a nice apartment.
I really need all of that.
But the things that I envision are like,like going to award shows
or going to like as, like a, as a nomineeand then potentially as, like a winner
and or going to or creating, conceptsthat live longer than I do,

(33:21):
like building worldsthat, exist and transform people
and to make people want to be successfulin their own right, doing something else,
like like I, I talked about AvatarThe Last Airbender, as,
as, like a point of success for mebecause it's the reason I have
an animation degree and it's aI want to build a show that that
that's that good, somebody is like, oh,I could do this for the rest of my life.

(33:45):
And that's the thing that I that'sthe thing that I like constantly
am thinking about is the idea of like,okay, what can I do
can inspire somebody elseto want to successful in their own right?
But also nice car, big house parties.
Yeah. You know. Yeah.
No, there's somethere's some material trappings
I want and I also but I,I definitely want material trappings.

(34:06):
That's a real thing.
And I, it is my fear.
It is an actual genuinephysiological nightmare for me.
I feel it in my body to get everythingI've asked for and not trust it.
Like you want to talk about some, I don'tknow, some Faustian Cassandra style.
Like now here's all the truth,but nobody believes it like that.
Is that bothers me.Like it's a possibility.

(34:29):
don't know why, but just the idea of like,imagine give being given
everything you've been promised,giving it, getting everything you want.
because you haven't practicedtrust or care,
or you just don't because youyou aren't even willing to be vulnerable
because you're not willing to risk it,you don't get it.
It's like constantly waiting for thatother shoe to drop the entire time, right?

(34:50):
Like sitting in a big house.
You don't like or round about peopleyou don't like, round about people
you don't like You got all this,you got money and you can't even.
You don't even like you.
No. You I it really is a nightmare.
And I'm like nobody. What do you mean?
I have all the things.
I have all the resources,and I can't manage it.

(35:11):
I can't like my psyche is so at oddswith what's happening here
that I can't hold on to it.Absolutely not.
So is it sad that, like, you know,part of the ways I focus on healing
or whatever it is to make sure I can enjoythe stuff when I get it,
it feels like I recognizethat might not be the right motivation,
but it's like, you know,
no, I'm trying to be a healedand emotionally centered person

(35:32):
because when I get all the stuffI want to be in that in it,
I want to be there in somebody'sstrip club.
Making it rain with no guilt feels like
any gun war play.
But know that I feel that.
I mean, that's that's I want to earn it.
That's one of the reasons I go totherapy is like,
is to like in one day I'mgoing to have all this stuff that I got.

(35:55):
I'm going to have everything I askedfor, and I want to be able to enjoy it.
Like as a personwho really struggles with mental health
and like who like who has likea kind of chronic depressive state
80% of the time, like,I want to be able to manage that.
No, that's the thing that I'm probablygoing to be battling the rest of my life
and still being able to enjoy the thingsI want to enjoy

(36:19):
with all my money and my stuff in a roomfilled with people that I love
and be like, today's a hard day,but at least we're going to Maligne in
an hour, right?
So that's going to be,
I figure I'll be I'll be upset about itin Cabo or in Santorini.
Yeah, I can also I can appreciatewhat this looks like right.
That moment where you like,you know, you take off, you look outside,

(36:41):
you're like, okay, that bad and then me,and now I'm good.
I have one last question for you.
we talked about people who are livinga version of success that you like.
Who? you can name names in the wheeland we'll say in
the public eye, is not livinga version of success that you want.
So I just got the image of usjust naming our friends.

(37:01):
Well,you know that dude. Oh, like you, you
look so, so, Jerome.
So sorry I was being silly,
but who's not living a lifewho is not living your version of success?
I have so many thoughts.
The word is okay.
And we're going to talk about mymy unofficial rival.

(37:24):
Tom Brady.
I was going to say capitalism, but.
Well, capitalism. Yes.
That's alwaysthat's capitalism is always a problem.
But but Tom Brady okay.
Tom Brady I variety of reasonsthat I hate Tom Brady.
And but it is him because it feels
he is somebody who kind of got everythingthat was promised.

(37:45):
Right.
And that, you know, and I say this,we share an alma mater to me
that this counts the alma mater,but whatever. That's fine.
I, I really dislike Tom Brady.It's famous.
It's whatever. And he cares.
So not about me and it's okay.
But this is a man who has hadand still has.
People still love TomBrady has had everything,
you know, and I'm not saying he hasit has had it handed to him.

(38:07):
Football's hard rightI think football's not hard.
so it's I think why he frustrates me.
There are so many reasons why.
But the main thing in connected
to the success conversationthat he frustrates me is he could.
He has so much natural talentthat hurt my feelings to say
and has been given so much and still like
can't be bothered to grow a backboneor be a decent human being.

(38:29):
Right?
Like he was a parent for all of what,three weeks before he after he retired
and then was like, nope,nope, can't be a dad.
So sorry. Go back to football.
What, you, you've alreadyone of the things that was why.
And now there was a time for you to,I don't know, show up for your family
in a way that people needand they need specifically. And.

(38:51):
Nope. Couldn't do it. Couldn'tcouldn't hack it. Right.
And I just think that isand Deflategate is a whole thing.
It's like, so you're alreadyat the top of the thing and,
you got caught cheatingand you got caught cheating and like,
do I know enough about all of thisto, like, dive deep? No.
But it to me that just showsit's like a significant lack of integrity.

(39:12):
It's like soyou have all the things you get to start.
You start ten feet from home plateand still can't do so,
so can't be bothered to likeyou get the gumption to do the rest.
I'm like, that is so what even is successthen you have all the things, you have
fame.You got the model wife, got the thing.
So all you actually have to do at
this point is show up to your lifeand maybe be depended upon.

(39:36):
When somebody asks you to do somethingand the public thinks, you know, again,
I don't know him as a person,but the public thinks, no, he he does it.
He just he just doesn't.
And that drives me bananas.
It's like, sir, at this point,so much of it you,
regardless of whether or not it'sbeen handed to you or not, because again,

(39:57):
I'm not discounting whatever work ethiche used to have at some point.
And letting like large menrun into you for a living is hard.
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna act like that.
There's no for, like, 20 years.
I'm not going to act like that.There's no downside to that.
I'm not going to pretend.
But, like, again,you are 90% of the way there.
Like through bothjust luck and circumstance

(40:19):
and your hard work, you've gotten thereand people are like, okay, now
you have to do this other part,maybe be generous of spirit in some way.
Maybe take care for your kids.
I don't know, maybe that like any of that,you have ten more.
You have like the last 10%.
Just do that and he was kind of like, nah,where's Gronk?
Can we go Gronk, what are you doing. And

(40:42):
got my dog and I was like that is.
my issue.
And that is that is like the.
And to methat's the anticipation of success
where you've now gotten so much supportand energy and opportunity
and you don't even use that to launch youinto being a kinder, better person.
And I just seemed like it is just like,what a waste.
It's just like what?
It's like, Just a quickfollow up in the sense of success.

(41:07):
And I think, I mean, clearlywe both have the same idea of this, that
when you are successful, you're kind ofI want to say this obligation for kindness
should exceed your ego or,or sense of self.
Am I am I saying that?
Does that make sense? What I'm saying it
is, I don't I don't knowif that's exactly how I feel about it.

(41:28):
I feel like this the more you haveand sometimes that is physical.
That is material.
That is money, right?
That is capital that a spacethat is whatever.
it could even be generosity of spiritor kindness.
The more you have, I feel you have.
I don't want to say it's an obligation,
but it feels like you have an invitationand you have the opportunity to share.

(41:49):
I am not like Team Altruism all the time.
You can you can get things that you likeand you can.
You can buy things that you like.You can own things that you want.
You can get it. I'mnot saying you have to like, give.
Everything.
I'm not one of those people who's like,you know,
vow of poverty where it's like,okay, I have to give.
Once I get anything,I have to give it away where I.
Once I get it, it's like, no,but if you have access, if you have.
Or even if some in some ways,even if you have enough,

(42:11):
at the very least, you can be.
Thoughtful and generous enough to.
Be a good person.
Which sounds so sentimental,but like okay, like Tom Brady.
Parenting for three weeksbothers me so much, right?
Is that like, this is a manwho clearly has financial means,
who clearly hasa team of people had nannies,
had whatever Giselle was raisingthose babies.

(42:34):
She stopped doing a lot of her modelingto, like, show up for the family.
And so he was fully supported
and just being a dad,all he had to do really,
he did have to figure outwhere the bills are coming from.
Who do you feel like who's who's payingfor what. know, he probably go out there.
He do it,I don't know, optimum commercial,
whatever commercial he's doing right nowto like
put some money aside for that college fundif that's what he needed to do.
Right. Yeah.

(42:54):
But like,but he wasn't under resourced in any way.
And so for them him to just then not dowhatever work he needed to do on himself
emotionally to show up to parenting,to the vulnerability of parenting,
to idea that you are impacting the livesof these people, of these, of your family.
His inabilityto just do that with no barriers
other than whatever his own emotionaland or psychological barriers.

(43:17):
Yeah, is like to me,I think it's kind of a weak character.
It sounds sentimental.He still has all this money.
He doesn't care about me.
so I think the obligation is like.
Or is it an obligation?
I think what I'm saying is, like when youwhen you are under-resourced,
which many of us are,I have more grace for people who aren't
also than doing thethe work of being open and vulnerable.

(43:41):
Whatever don't I think everybody should.
But if you can't figure out,
like where your next meal is coming from,I understand that like
getting to just being in a generous spiritmight be a bridge too far.
It just might be harder to get to.
But when you have all the things,when you have all the things,
and you then don't do any of the necessaryemotional work
to be a good personin relationship to other people.

(44:04):
I get really mad about that,
because
the only barrier at this point isyou don't want to
And so no, it's not like,okay, well, who has all this money?
So now he has to give all his moneyaway. Like, I didn't say that.
I just be a parentto the kids that you made.
Like, literally.
That's all I'm askingthat you made you me.

(44:25):
You made these people.
You made these people.
That woman gave up a bunch of things.
And I also want to be clear,I'm not necessarily Team Giselle.
I in many ways, I recognize they are likeavatars for, like, rich, rich people.
But like, she was also a superstar.
And so she had to stop.
She had to stop being the superstarat that level
so that you can play football,which is great.
You did a bunch of great thingsand some not so great things there.

(44:48):
And then it's like,okay, now you're retired.
Now we have this moment of retirement.
And so now you get to be present.
And it was literally like, what, 22 day?
It was something rich.
Definitely likeit was definitely under a month, sir.
You couldn't even start season.
You couldn't even give it.
You didn't take the summer.
I bet youthey were at camp for some of that.
Like you couldn'teven you couldn't even do that anymore.

(45:10):
That feels until it feels crappy.
And I like not to stay on thisfor too long.
I mean, like, I it recommend it,but I was like,
I think in direct contrast,I think of Daniel Craig and Rachel Weiss.
I spent way too much timeapparently following celebrity news.
But Rachel Weisz, like,there was an interview and Rachel Weiss
was like, told them, she's like,you can't you can't be bond anymore.
can't, you can't do it.

(45:31):
We're both getting older and it's like,
and it's super coolthat you get to be bond.
they don't like you broke your backand you're like.
And they don't have to youto doctor's appointments
and help you heal and convalesce with you,like I,
the audience,public doesn't have to do that.
They get to celebrate you being bond.
I have to like,take care of your medical needs right.
And so like,you got five movies, in your mid 50s.

(45:51):
not doing this anymore.
I forget he got five movies.
He gets so many
it right.
He's been for a while, but right.
If and had some real injuriesand it's whatever.
And he's and we love talking aboutbut like just the idea of saying hey
this is how I need you to show upfor us, for your family.
And him being like, that's what's up.
That's gotta do it.

(46:12):
And so now we get, you know,we get beaten up
like we get other opportunities.
He's not out here quitting. Right?
But he was like, I can't do this thing.
No matter how cool it is, no matter howI feel like I don't I can't do this thing.
I've gotten to do it for a very long time,and now I got to pivot, right?
That feels like a just a example to likethat same conversation where it's like,
all right, we have to make changesthat honor the commitments you're in.

(46:35):
And, you know, Daniel Craig and RachelWeiss are still married,
at least as far as I know as of today.
And just just got marriedto somebody else.
So or at least if I do have somebodyelse's baby, I think they got married.
But I'm just saying that to me.
Those are just examples of like,I don't know any of these people,
but examples of likewhat it means to show up with integrity
when you have everything.

(46:55):
But like like Daniel Craig had bond,
had all of the accolades,had all the things,
and could have easily been like,but I still want to be bond.
And he was like, I can honormy commitments and be in that amazing set.
Great. Take.think you're five for five now. to go.
are you? Overhere. Steph Curry from the three.

(47:16):
Oh, man.
I love that I yeah I didn't get to ask youwho you think is not doing it right.
Who I think is not doing it right.
You know, I don't really know.
The Tom Brady take was really great.
A person who I thinkis not doing it right.
guess I don't really follow peoplewho I don't think are doing it right.
Are you trying to say that I'munnecessarily obsessed with Tom? Stupid.

(47:40):
So you trying to call me a hater?
Maybe.
Now, Tom,if if Tom Brady has no haters left,
that means I am deceased.
But I very much try to focus on,
like, the, the people in the industrythat I see as successful.

(48:02):
I kind of laser focus on that,and I don't really focus on those
who I don't think are using their successto their highest capabilities,
or they are, know,their success is like a liability to them.
Like, I think like Jonathan Majors, who Ilike like I enjoy watching him and stuff.
And who knows how this takewill feel 4 or 5 years from now.

(48:25):
Maybe things will change.
It's still kind of relativelyearly in his in his career.
But I feel like that his successbe kind of became his liability.
And it
it negated a lot of the great thingsthat he's done
behind the in front of the camera.
And I think that he's using his successin a way
that is not how I would use my success,particularly putting hands on people.

(48:46):
But that's
that's different.
That's not me.
should never put your hands on peoplethat don't be able to keep your hands
and body to yourselfunless explicitly asked. However, comma.
If. You have to already be famousfor that to be swept under the rug.
You can't be. You can't be learninghow to be famous.
You should never do it.
Do not put your hands body on peoplewho did not invite that.

(49:07):
Do not harm people at all, at all.I want you to.
Mike said unequivocally, unequivocallyand sometimes
people think they can get away with it,and it's like, you can't get away with it
at that pay grade.
You weren't you weren't at theget away with it pay grade.
No, no, no.
And you should never desire to beat that pay grade.
And there isn't really one whereyou should be able to get away with it.

(49:27):
You shouldn't, but youwho has been able to get away with it
and is not where you were.
And that is one of again,that actually to me
is an example of preparing,not preparing for success.
You have to practice being a good personbefore you're famous.
Yeah, before the money hits.
Because especially in the ageof the Twitter bot or where folks

(49:50):
will dig up your old tweets or dig upyour like, they will tell that story.
And if you weren't practicingbeing a good person
when nobody was looking,
all of a suddenpeople are going to be looking
and you're going to findthat old stuff out.
you should be a good personbecause you should be a good person. Yes.
And. Being a good personis also financially lucrative.
So like say it againfor the people in the back.

(50:11):
You're right.
No, you should be a good personbecause you should be a good person.
And being a good personis also financially lucrative.
It it always is.
It always will be shortterm and long term.
So that's why I, I don't yeah,
I don't really don't reallyfocus on people who are doing it right.
Like I think and you've taught methat, you've taught me that this like go

(50:31):
after the like, look at people's livesthat you want to kind of emulate in a way
that feels good for you.so I don't don't look at
people who don't do itright, are kind, who aren't.
And you got to be a little bitnerdy for me.
gotta, you know, you got to put on animeevery once in a while for me
to meet a rock materialon a successful type level.
yeah, that's right.
That's where I'm at with it. Oh,what a good main moment.

(50:54):
have fun here.
We have fun here.
Speaking of fun,this is we're bringing back a segment
that we hadin the first episode to this episode.
And this is our sibling superlatives.

(51:15):
We had really fun with this one.
On the first episode.We're bringing it back again.
The last few episodeshave been a little deeper.
We first projected,so we're lighten it up with this one.
And this one's going to get it'sgoing to get real silly.
It's going to be really great.We're going to have tons of fun.
All of these questionsI want in comment description

(51:37):
where you're seeing this put,what would you do in these questions?
What arewhat are the scenarios that you think?
If you have a sibling or somebody
that you call your twinor your or your bro or sis or whatever,
who do you think in your friendgroup would fit in these two descriptions?
I like it. I want to see this.
Tag them at Hustling with Harges on all theall the social platforms.

(51:59):
Email us at Hustling with Harges at gmail.com.
all the things and all the placesand we will.
You know, if some of them hit, we mightwe might see them again on the platforms.
We So court here is the first question.
Who is more likelyto survive a zombie apocalypse?

(52:20):
It ain't me, my guy. It's not me.
I'm not the one.
No, I don't I'm not going to do it.
I'm I'm don't I'm not a runner.
I have a bad knee.
I can't, I'm not.
They're like my this is it.
So one the answer is Tyrone.
Tyrone is definitely more likelyto survive the zombie apocalypse.
It's not even a question.
However, my take is if we can findif I can get safe passage

(52:44):
to like a base of some sort, right.
Like, you know,I think of like some type of community.
I think of like the that the prison
from that what first,the second season of walking Dead, right.
When they found the rape
or whatever season that was,I didn't watch it, but I do
I did see this episode,like on that prison or in The Last of Us
where they were,they're at, routine a Wesley's.

(53:06):
Oh, yes. Yes. Community.
Yes. Right.
Or, I'm sure there's some otherswhere it's like they found
we found a space so somebody can found
and, like, make that space happenand get me in there.
I will organize,I will conserve resources.
I'll be over there knitting.
And so in, like, clothing, like,get me in the community.
Yeah. Courtney.

(53:26):
Courtneybecomes the community leader, right?
I will stockpile,I will give us a rations plan.
I will give us a like we will have,we will have, like, a thriving community
with some barriers and like communityagreements, all of that.
But if to start that,I have to run, there's nobody.

(53:47):
And it's just me trying to survive.
They are out in the wildernessfor ain't got it for is like foraging.
I'm not built for outside.
I've said this a few times outsideand I do not don't get along.
I don't really like animals like that.
Like, give me a domesticated,give me a cat or a dog or whatever.
But the second we get outside to,like the second I see a snake, I'm out.
Right.

(54:08):
Let's have this done.
Running from the zombies, I got a I don'treally like firearms, but I would engage.
But there's a lot of like,I'm not built for survival skills.
I'm not built for survival skillsin a solitary way.
I am built for communal survival skillswhere it's like, okay,
what are all our resources,just how we can work together.
So if you can get me to the camp,somebody, Peter Pascal, if you're out

(54:30):
there, if you can get me to the camp,I will be an asset to the community.
if it's just me on my own,having to forage and understand
which berries are the right onesor what, it's not.
It's not me.
That's not me. Find me.
I'm going to be the one who,like, runs to the mall and like, raise
the antagonist and just hopesthat I can survive like that.
Great. Cool.
I did and is is hilarious,which is fine for me.

(54:55):
Just go for it. And for so
rebels got them hot dogs.
I'd be in thereand that blue raspberry lemonade right?
It's like, what is the one that's.
That would be me.
I am the pretzel queen.
Go. Completely insane.
Psychotic. Completely insane.

(55:16):
Yeah, like having a crazy, fiefdomin an old Sam's Club.
Like,that's probably be perfect, but I'm not.
Yeah.
Karen.
Tyrone, I think, would actually be wiryenough to survive.
Yeah, I think I would run.
I think I would probably survivejust out of spite.
I, you know, long distancerunning in Kyle in high school.

(55:38):
So we might be able to tap back into that.
But I'm not a forager, though.
I'm not a forager.I'm not a hunter gatherer.
I don't really like firearms in that way.
But I'm quick,
though,
and and I can be nomadic if I need to.
I can just pick up and leave if I need to.
So I feel likeI might not find a community.

(55:59):
But if they have, like, like couriers,like like I like twisted metal,
I think I can make a living beinga courier in the post-apocalyptic world.
I like it, I like it, yeah.
Know if I want to,I would be the one who, like, lives
with the kids.
Was it never Campbell in,
society?
Yeah. I'd be like, in that city.

(56:20):
I know there is a dark thing.We didn't even get to see what
all the dark is, but, like, the secondthat's like. No, that's all out there.
Nope.
I'm going to be in the city,
probably running some type of barteror exchange system.
I would be in that.
Give me, give me that I want.
That's where I'll be who would bethe villain in a Disney movie?
It's Courtney.
It's definitely me.
I am absolutely 100% correct.

(56:42):
You're talking to somebody who,as a four year old,
saw Sleeping Beauty and immediatelyfell in love with Maleficent,
and I was like, that's the one.
I want to be the giant dragon lady.
Hey, I have so much Disney villain gear.
I realize now that probably it'sbecause so many Disney villains are queer
coded that I like them.
I was like, they all feel cool.

(57:04):
However, comma,I still like I was like, no,
but they're I like themand but I as a growing up, I'm like,
oh, this was also probablythey also probably seeing some alignment
there that makes sense.
But I am a Disney villain.
I have way too much Disney villain gear.
I have several Maleficent,several several, in a variety of forms.

(57:25):
Who would be I am I am a Disney villain.
In direct contrast,Tyrone is a Disney princess. I am
heroine is a Disney princess
liable to break into song at any time,at any time.
Animals and children love him likehe really just will be out in the world.
And animals, dogs specificallychildren will just walk up to him

(57:48):
be like, you are my friend. That is it.
Tyrone has the most random he's.
He's somebody for whom
serendipity is just like a way of life,where he just walks into a place
and people are just offering things like,hey you, you want this free pizza meal?
Gift to Tyrone is Tyroneis a Disney princess.
This magic happens to and around himin a way that is amazing.

(58:11):
I've just started to own it now, right?
You just exist in it.
I joke that, we were talkinga few days ago and I made this joke that
because Tyrone and Iare clearly very similar.
But we also have very differentphysiologies
and me as a Disney villain in Tyrone,as a Disney princess, like,
we are very much like unmake saladdressing, right?
And that we are made of the same materialas extra things we are.

(58:36):
We are made of the same materials,but somebody didn't shake it up.
And so when they poured out for me,they got the oil.
And when they poured out for Tyrone,they got the ingredients.
And it's like you can tellthere is some similarity, same components,
but because they weren't mixed together,because it feels like,
mean, I am short and roundwhere Tyrone is taller and so thin.
feel like I'm drawn like a Disney villainbecause of me on all angles.

(58:59):
So yes,
everyone is drawn like a Disney villainand I'm drawn like thumper from Bambi.
Just cheeks and short.
And just adorable.
I can't stand you.
Just. I'm just saying.
But I am in fact, inside I am the Disney

(59:21):
villain and DirtRoad is the Disney princess.
And it's just funny to me.
But yes, we are, the, salad dressing.
This.
this might be my favorite questionwe've ever asked each other.
Who would start a cult accidentally
and who would join on purposejust for the snacks and robes?
This is a great question,

(59:41):
because I feel like both of us hitboth of these parts, right?
It really depends on the cult
and where are theyadvertising for the snacks and robes?
Because I have said I have saidfree is my favorite size, color
and flavor right?
Yeah, right.
I'm just like, oh yeah.
Because if someone is like,hey, here's this thing, what size is it?

(01:00:04):
Free? Great.
That is right.
My size.
That's my size.
Oh, what color is it?
Free. Great.
It's my favorite color and flavor free.
Absolutely correct.
So free is already in my mouth,
right?
Free is my favorite size, colorand flavor.
For sure.
So where are the robes?

(01:00:26):
Where where are the snacks?
Where are you advertising?
And I also feel like in the right spaceI could start a call.
I don't I the accidentally partis probably the question for me.
Like if I decided I was going to do it,it's like, you know what?
If I felt like there was an opportunity,there was a window for some
cult following.
I would probably say,all right, I lean into this myth.

(01:00:48):
I think the accidentally thingis the caveat for me,
where I would look up and I'd be like,why are these people behind me?
Oh my God, no, I started a cult.
And oh, well,we're here now, so now we're in it.
It's, But also. Yes.

(01:01:09):
do the robes I are the robes too long?
What kind of snacks do we have?
Are they sweet or salty? Snacks?
Is there a newsletter?If there's a newsletter? I don't, I'm not.
I don't know if I'm joining.don't like a newsletter.
But you can get a staff. But I'm.
But again you get to go.I would go to the meeting.
I would definitely be the one.
would end up in one good cult meeting.
Okay. Promise wouldn't it just.
But it also I exit by accidentbecause I'm like, hey, I'm willing to go

(01:01:33):
to most places to figure out what are youall offering that could be interesting.
The issue, the change in location for me,like if somebody like, hey,
walk into yeah, it's the double venue,I don't, I don't do that.
So like if somebody is like, hey,
you know, like I've actually I've seenthe Scientology things
in the middle of times Square.It's like, hey, come in, watch the movie.
I can't, I watch the movie, I sometimesit's sometimes it's hot, sometimes you

(01:01:54):
some AC you going,you actually 20 minutes give or take.
if you go into the space and likeall right guys
we're going to get in this truckand go to the next place. Absolutely not.
Nope.
Not going
not going to do that because I've seen,you know, I watch a lot of television,
but you see the placeswhere they like say, all right,
everybody meet at this locationfor the meeting.
I'm like, all right, now we're going totake a ride to the second location.
It's like, nope, I've.This is the location.

(01:02:15):
You said the meeting was at.
This is the one.
I'm not getting in your creeper, am.
I'm not doing it with no window.
Yeah.
So if you're going to hurt me,you should hurt me at this place
because I'm not changing locationsso you not do it. It.
That's a valid point.
The double location is definitely a deadgiveaway that you're about to join a cult.
Who's more likely to time traveland mess up the timeline?

(01:02:37):
I feel like we both fall into thiscategory as well.
I think you need more than that.
Maybe more me than you.
Because I like to touch it, which is a
which is the problem,
I think.
Yes, I have, I've told you,I have my time travel plan,
right? Somebody's like, okay,what do you do?

(01:02:58):
What is it?
The way you can time traveland not mess up the timeline.
And I've thought about this waytoo hard, extensive, but
but this is what I want.
If somebody is like you getyou have like 15 minutes.
You can't do, can't do anything.
So what I want a timetable to isI guess early 1900s I want to
I want to travel to when they were stillmaking Coca Cola with the cocaine in it.

(01:03:20):
I've never tried to. It's not a thing,but that's what I want.
I want to go.
I want to go buy a Coca Cola withwith the cocaine in it for like a nickel.
Drink that just to experience it.
And then come back. That's it.
That is all I want to do.
I want to buy it from the space

(01:03:41):
that is from a, fromwhatever space is appropriate, but I do.
I want one full cocaine, coca Cola.
and that's it.
And I don't I don't thinkthat would change the timeline too much.
I think I would justI don't get to buy cocaine for a nickel.
Right. It's spices.
They are already selling it. Again.I'm not trying to steal.
I'm not trying to.
I just want to go.
Go where? They're selling it.

(01:04:02):
That you can do a shop to that. Right?
Then I'm allowed to go and do purchaseone Coca Cola with the appropriate nickel.
Have drink the CocaCola like on a bench somewhere.
Right.
And then walk back into your time machineand walk back into the time machine.
That's what I want.
I just sure there would be things thathave an and I wanted I butterfly effect.
I don't have the time to do all the mathto figure that out.

(01:04:24):
This is the one thing I want to do.
Well, I think I could do itand and and not somehow
create an alternate like dictator verse.
Although I will say with the way2025 is shaping up, you might be okay.
I'm more likelyto go in and maybe make it.
Up a little bit. Now

(01:04:46):
feels like like this endgame is.
It's worth a shot.
It's right.
It's worth a shot.
I'd be willing to make itsome changes there, but.
But yes, that is my.
That is my time travel plan.
That I don't have a time travelI don't have a time travel plan,
but I would I feel like I woulddefinitely show up, move some shit around

(01:05:06):
and then pop back inand we just see what we get.
We just see what we get.
I don't want to mess something upenough to where it's like, you know,
everything is changed.
But maybe I go backand I like Doctor King.
Maybe you try different hotel.
We got to do somethingI don't see that feels.
I mean, I think that would be great.

(01:05:27):
I also think it has the.
We have no idea what the implications are.
We have no idea what the vacation that orthe other thing I would do would be like,
stand in the back of the crowd and booat one of Jefferson Davis funerals.
Yes, I, I don't know if I can,you can't change it or whatever.
But he had he like laid in statelike three different states.

(01:05:47):
Right. So just boom boom.
No like you ain't not backat the time machine. Real
right.
Just to feel the impact.
Because again, if the thing is,if you can't change the thing.
Yeah, that's that's my thought process.
If you can't change two things,what's the thing I could do that like
gives me the experience of it.

(01:06:12):
Causethe thing I do that gives the experience,
that is you got to go back in time to do.
But you can't break too much, right?
You can't break too much.
I can see back when.
I think,
oh, hell, right,

(01:06:33):
right.
That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah.
Would be a very
when I go to you do that right,you just go again there.
Just so they,
they're they're definitely thingsthat would be worth changing
when you time travel that if,if we've decided if like we've established

(01:06:57):
in the time travel lawthat you can't change the you can't change
that you have to have theselike canon events.
So then my idea is,
okay, what are the things,what are the ways that I can participate
that won't necessarilyalter the course of history.
And so yeah, so those ofmy thoughts have been drinking,
drinking a bottle of cocaine, Coca Cola

(01:07:18):
and doing it one of the best.
Any one of them.
I didn't even have to be a specific one,
but I just wanna be ableto stand in the back.
Voiced my displeasure,and then exit back to my time.
Oh, I think that that is a phenomenalquestion to end on.
Yeah, I love this book in Jefferson.

(01:07:39):
It's my favorite thingI think you've ever said on the show.
I love it, I just love yeah,but what is the what is the cause?
What you need is what is the no impactthing you would do to time travel.
Like that's the question.
So I can't change anything.
It could exist.
But yes, that is the questionI will leave people.
What is theno impact thing that you would do?

(01:08:03):
Time traveling?
Leave it in the comments.
Leave it on a post.
I need to know the answerto this question.
Absolutely.
Thank you so much. Absolutely.
It's time for everybody'sfavorite segment.
CaughtYou know what time it the heart and soul.
The heart and soul of thejust is work hard, play hard.

(01:08:25):
Time.
Danny really?
The theme of this week's this episodes.
I don't know why I said this week'sthis episode's, work hard.
Play hard is how do you stay readyso you don't have to get ready.
know we've talked about a lot of success.
We talked abouthow we're preparing for success.

(01:08:46):
But what what arethis is this is the the meat and potatoes
as they like to say,really the core of the show.
So what I have, you know,I have a couple questions here for you.
Oh, nice.
Surprise, surprise, surprise.
Your first question is,what is your number
one tool or a habitthat keeps your life tight?

(01:09:07):
Okay, that's a good question.
It's, I think, a commitmentto writing things down.
Phenomenal.
It's it's not even.
It's like it'snot even having a perfect system.
It's like, okay, can I write it down?
And a lot of times,just the act of writing it,
even if it's, you know, and I say writingand sometimes typing or sometimes just,
just the act of like thinking about itone more time to get it written down
can help me remember, at the very least,if there's a thing that I have to do.

(01:09:31):
I think my theatrical training,like just working as an actor
has allowed me,has helped me to memorize.
so I don't rely.
That's rely on my memory.
But actor training allowed me to, like,
associate thoughtand feeling with a visual prompt.
So, you know, if you read a script,have your line,
you also have to remember you're blockingand like what's happening.
And so a lot of times writing it down,it's like, okay,

(01:09:54):
what were we talking about?
I can remember, like all the stuffthat's happening around the thing,
even if I write downand imperfectly scribbled,
a lot of times my notes look a mess.
But it's like, actually, I'm just tryingto put many ways, like a symbol
on paper that helps me capture thingwe're talking about.
That's amazing. Yeah, yeah. How about you?
I think a tool that helps me keep my life

(01:10:15):
tight is, Or, like, a habit.
I don't know, probably also writing thingsdown, like, I, I
definitely I move more of the digitaltyping things, saying things
into like my notes or voice memosjust to be like, hey,
you had this idea, or hey,you have to do this thing like a reminder.

(01:10:36):
I'm, I'm, I'm killer of reminder.
Even though it's I look at a reminderand completely disregard
what I was looking at.
Like, I, I definitely need to bebetter at it, but it's helped me this far.
People have said that I amI am productive and organized,
which as I have never been described yet,
and until the lastlike couple years of my life.

(01:10:59):
So that's really interesting.
So whateverI'm doing, it's clearly working.
And so I'm going to keep it up,whatever I'm doing.
But as far as like a tool,I've also I really like notion.
Notion has also been like really helpfulfor me to like solidify and consolidate
ideas and, and concepts in a waythat keeps all the noise in my head

(01:11:21):
kind of quiet and not it's never off,but it is quiet.
It. Yeah. That's real.
I like so that's just it'syou just have to like, do the thing,
which I know I've said before,
but sometimes it's just like,what is the way to just get through?
get through the mental blocksand just do the thing.
Like I will actually say,

(01:11:41):
this isn't a tool or habit,but it is a trick that helped me
is separating how I feel about the taskfrom having to do the task.
So sometimes it's like,I don't feel like doing it.
It's like,all right, well, I'm just going to do it.
And it's not may not be my best work.
It may not have that alignment of like,oh, I really want to do it.
And I'm informed sometimesI just finish it and that can be helpful.

(01:12:01):
Or it's like, you know what? I don't likeit and I'm going to do it anyway.
So it takes longer sometimes,but sometimes just being able to like,
as opposed to waiting for this momentwhere, like my feelings
and my actions match, I just be like,I'm just going to do this now.
It's not going to be great,but it's going to get done.
And that can be enough.

(01:12:22):
I think that's the thingthat has allowed me
to become as productiveand organized as I am.
And I say organize.
And I to my I still don't believethat I'm as organized as I am,
but apparently I am.
But the the thing of just like doing it
and like it'll it can be better later,
But just doingit is kind of is where I'm at now.

(01:12:45):
And I think where I've been probably thelast couple of years where I'm just like,
we're just going to do it.I mean, take it.
I take, like epic, for example.
Like that is that isdefinitely the concept of like, we're just
I'm putting it outhere, we'll fix it later.
It'll be better later.
But right nowit just needs to be out there.
I get that whole like, I'mI feel great about doing this.

(01:13:06):
That's too bad.
Let's do it and be like,we're still doing it.
When things are falling apart,what what brings you back to the center?
I think we've talked about thisa little bit, but I just.
For me, it is just knowing that onceit's done, I don't have to do it again.
That's really great.
So sometimes it's like,all right, it's falling apart.

(01:13:28):
And I can't remember if I've said thison the show, but I that's the thing I know
if, say, in real life a lot,
which is like anything worthdoing is worth doing poorly.
Okay, break that downbecause that's. Yeah, break that down.
And I,I will say I got this from the internet.
People were particularly talking aboutlike kind of self-care
in the realm of and when like your mentalhealth is being challenged, right.

(01:13:50):
When you're we're struggling.
And the things that are most importantactually the things that are critical
to, to can actually still countif you do it badly.
And so like, for example, eating right,let's say if dealing with
whatever depression, whatever feelings,you're dealing with, something. Yes.
And you don't feel like cookingthe healthiest, most filling mill meal.

(01:14:15):
Sometimes just grabbing an applejust putting a food thing in your face
is enough because at the end of the day,your body just needs the nutrients.
Should you just grab like, Cheetosevery day?
All day? No.
That's going to have long term effects,but there's a moment
where anything, if it's worth doing,if you need food, you need calories.

(01:14:37):
You need something in your bodyputting something that's not
the perfect choice in your body is betterthan not putting anything at all.
I love that so much.
Like as a personwho definitely struggles with the
the concept of just doing things like thatdepressive state hits
and you're just like,I don't want to move all.

(01:14:58):
So great.So like sometimes you're like showering.
I don't want to shower.
That's a wholeI have to wash. It's like, okay, cool.
Can you take a warm washcloth,wash your face, maybe wash your pits,
put on a clean shirt.
Can you do that? Sure. It's not a shower,
but it's worth doing badly.
And you deserve to be cleanlike you deserve.
And you deserve to be clean, right? Yeah.
But even sometimes you're just like,okay, what is the what is the

(01:15:19):
what is the terrible version of thisI can still do?
And so sometimes I think of likewhen things fall apart,
remembering that anything's worth doingis worth doing badly.
So doing it a little bit,doing it in the way that's not ideal.
Doing it.
In a way that may be upsettingor I won't say upsetting,

(01:15:39):
but in the way that just maybe like,
I didn't do thisthe way it was supposed to be.
Like, I would even say sometimes, like,you ain't got it.
Sometimes you want to pay a bill.
Paying a bill late is betterthan not paying a bill at all, right?
Like if you don't have it.
And so yes, okay,maybe there are implications.
You get a fee, you have to do something,
but you still paid itand you can still count.
And so sometimes rememberingwhen things fall apart, when I feel like

(01:16:01):
it's there, it's like, okay,what is the worst version of this thing
that I can do
that is just going to make itat least kind of done.
And again, that's not the standardfor how I operate all the time.
But if it's like I'm struggling,if you can't, if I'm if or
if there's a moment where you'rejust like, I just need a thing

(01:16:22):
or sometimes if I need, frankly,sometimes I think if I need help, like,
I'm not saying be rude to people,but sometimes you're like,
I don't even know what I need here,but I need to help.
You don't need to have the perfect requestto ask for help.
I think that happens.
A lot of people like,I don't even know what I'm asking for yet.
Sometimes you're like,I need help and I don't have a plan.
I don't know how.
I don't even know how I need help,but I need help.

(01:16:44):
And so making that imperfect ask again.
It's worth doing.
You still need the help. So do it badly.
Not rudely right, but badly.
I didn't know I needed to hear that.
I appreciate you. Yes, I appreciate you.
Yeah. So I think about that.
I do think about that quote all the time.
It's such a random thing that I've heard,
but it's like anything worth doingis actually worth doing badly.

(01:17:07):
Just just do it imperfectly.
I'm thinking about what brings meback to my center.
I think it's the people around melike that
bring me back to, like,when I feel like things are falling apart.
I remember, you know, I think about the,like, the Simpsons thing
where Homer covers up the,
Don't forget your here foreverwith all the pictures of Maggie.

(01:17:30):
Yes. Do it for her.
For her? Yeah.
Perfect.
Like, I think about, like, you know.
Okay, what am I doing this for?
And then I'm like, oh, I'm doing this for,like, I'm doing this for me, but, like,
I'm also like, doing this
so I can help take care of the peoplethat I want to take care of.
And so that's reallythat's that's what it is.
It's, it'smy it's the community I'm building.

(01:17:51):
It's the, the,the people that are in my life
that I, that I love dearly andwant to watch their dreams come true to.
And that's kind of brings meback to my center.
Which is always, always beautifulto think about.
So, you know, we looked at stayingready on the work hard side.
So the play hard side, a questionI really like.
Here is what do you do?

(01:18:12):
Just because it feels good,even if it's unproductive?
That's a good question.
It's it's honestly it's like watchingplaying video games and watching movies
like it's completely it doesn'tit brings me immense joy.
But like we talked
about with a couple episodeswhere we talk about like work light,

(01:18:32):
like it's still a little bit productive
in my, in my sense of the world,where it's just like
everything is kind of inspirational or,or has the potential to be inspirational.
So like playing video games,watching movies,
writing, like all the things that I do
for productivity, I can do also

(01:18:54):
with no productivity involved in it,and it's still be very enjoyable for me.
That's a great question.
What I dobecause it feels good, even unproductive.
It is. Yeah.
I think similarlyI do. I really like television.
It is finding
it is something fun to watchand to see how it works.

(01:19:15):
I also like I'm about to start this.
I'm about to start a new knitting project,a good summer knitting project,
just because I need to moving my handsin a way
that's not like scrolling my phoneor playing like games there.
It's like I need to do somethingthat's not necessarily productive so much.
I mean, I want to producea knitting project, but I realize I need
my hands need to be moving frequently,

(01:19:38):
and why I like knitting and sewing so muchis because it is so tactile.
My hands get to.
There's always something can be grabbingSo just out of being tired,
I haven't been prioritizing, like,doing my tactile.
Work, my tactile, creative pursuitsand I'm feeling that.

(01:19:59):
I'm feeling the lack of those activities.
And so I'm really goingto, realize that, like, just being able
to put my energy in this creative thingactually is productive.
And so the thing I do thatbecause it feels good is make things
even if it feels unproductive.
That's beautiful, though,because it also gives you like

(01:20:20):
I think, it really grounds you.
To, I think it grounds
you back to the reality that you enjoy,which is the reality of making things.
Cool beans where one do one more.
How do you protect your peacewhen it's when the hustle is too loud?
Ooh, I wish I do, same.

(01:20:43):
Yeah.
Like, you know, we have real needs.
They are.
The world gets crazy every day.
There are things that need to be paidfor, ordered, repaired.
There's always, like, a need.
And I realize I, I.
Struggle may be a hard word, butI, I don't know, I am challenged because,

(01:21:04):
like, part of how I just go throughthe world is I like being helpful.
I like being of service.
The downside is when the hustle is loud,when folks need, it's like it's
hard for me to go like 45 minuteswithout somebody needing something for me.
And that can be really challengingbecause again, I like being of service.
I like being connected to people,but sometimes I'm just like,
what would it belike to have two whole hours for?

(01:21:26):
Somebody hasn't asked me for something.
What would that look like?
And so.
I don't, you know,some of the thing is like being
and not not being, pushed internally.
Like, sometimes I feel like somebody's
asking for something,so I have to respond immediately.
It's like, no, actually, it can.
It can wait. You can hold the peace.
So one of the ways I protect my piecesby protecting my peace,

(01:21:47):
I just have to say, I'm going to come backto that in a half an hour.
One of the ways I actually deal with that,I think, is, is a good old saint.
Later, either email or text.
Sometimes I will respond to this text now,but hit that old send later
because I don't want to bein the conversation right away. Yes.
And something I don't utilizeenough is the send later.

(01:22:10):
I strongly suggest itbecause it's like I do want to respond to
you and I'll forget if I just let it sit.
So it's like,all right, I'm gonna respond.
I'm gonna hit this in later in like 45minutes, we'll be able to talk about
whatever this thing is.
But right now, I, I can't, I need toI just don't want to be in a conversation.
I just don't want to.
I want to do it.
And so, like, what are the what are thetools or ways I try to do that?

(01:22:31):
Saying no kindly.
You know, I try to be good at boundaries,but just being like, you know what?
I can't do that.
Or it doesn't have to bea whole lot of explanation.
It's like, no, I don't not evenI don't want to do that or whatever.
Sometimes it's just like,no, I'm just not available.
And then the last thing issometimes is asking with the negotiation,
it's like, okay, I would like to use this,but I can't do that today.
Now, whatever.
When do you need to spyor when can can we do this?

(01:22:53):
Can I do this tomorrow?Can I do this later?
Can I do this at a timewhere it will work?
No, I can't do it right now.
I'm not going to do it right nowbecause I'm not going to be rushed.
And so activelymaking some intentional decisions
about protecting my peace, without having to be a jerk about it.
You know, I said a few weeks ago to
we talked about, like, sometimesboundaries don't have to be communicated.

(01:23:15):
You can just say, no, I'm not available.No, I'm not going to do that.
And so sitting with that be like,actually, I said I wasn't going to do this
work today, so I'm not going toyou don't need to know that I
you can just say I'm unavailable.
That's the thingI need to start doing to help,
you know, protect my peacewhen the hustle gets loud.
Like it's,it's hard to turn off the hustle.
Mind.

(01:23:35):
Especially now, like we said, you know,we all have needs.
Things need done.
Things need to be paid for and stuff,and and such.
it's also hard for me to do itbecause I'm also I'm
feel like I'm in the process of buildingsomething really good.
And so like, I constantlywant to keep building that thing.

(01:23:56):
But I understandthat piece is also an important part
of the hustle culture, which I don't thinkenough people talk about.
And I don't, you know,
don't get me started on that again.
But, protect how I protect my piece is,
is definitely more of just like likeI need to start setting more boundaries

(01:24:16):
and I need to start being more,What is it disciplined on those boundaries
instead of just like,this is my boundaries and I still do
I still work, I still do the things,but like, I'm not like
keeping the promise to myselfto have these boundaries.
So that's that's the thing that I'mthat I'm working on to protect my peace.
But right now, I don't thinkI protect my peace as much as I should.

(01:24:38):
looking at our closing out.
So, what's one thing?
Tool, book concept.
Anything that you recommendeveryone try out this week?
A thing I think people should try outthis week is notion.
I think notion is a really great app.
Specifically for creatives to,

(01:24:59):
to organize and toto cultivate your creative projects.
Yeah, I think it has a lot of great appapps within it and tools within it.
YouTube.How to do all the things in notion.
Notion is super powerful. It's a thingI need to like.
I'm only kind of scratchedthe surface of notion
and I feel really confident, butI really need to like dive deep into it.

(01:25:24):
But if you dive deep into it,people have done amazing things in notion,
and I feel like it's extremelyit's it cost.
But I think you can get a really greatsubscription for like ten bucks a month.
Sounds. That sounds right to me.
And but they have free trials.
They have, you know, they haveall the things that that that you do.

(01:25:44):
And it's my it's the first it'sone of the first things I open up in my,
when I open my computerand it's, it's helped me stay organized.
It's helped meremember things that helped me.
You know, if I need to send somebodysomething, I can send them a notion
link, and I don't have to remember it now,
which is really what it's helpful for mefor that I remember this now.

(01:26:06):
Yeah.
That's what I would say.
Notion and find what success means to you.
Success doesn't have to be $1 million or a yacht or or anything.
Success could just be that you get to makeyour art, or you get to write your book,
or you get to be an accountantand enjoy accounting things,
and it makes you happy,and you get to, like,

(01:26:27):
play bocce ball on the weekends,and you have to worry about anything.
I love the budget.
Well, that's that's the thing.
My tool,
that I'd recommendthat I was thinking about, actually,
somebody asked me about it and I was like,oh, yeah, this is great.
It's, the book, from,
this man, his name is Tiago Forte,and it's called Building a Second Brain.
And it is a way to organizeyour digital life.

(01:26:50):
And it he actually recommends notionas part of it.
So it is connected, a wayto organize your digital life, to kind of
have your online spaces, particularly like a notion or clickup
or having an online toollike act as your second brain.
And one of the things is like, you know,like human brains are amazing machines
and they're something that they'rereally terrible at and things like,

(01:27:14):
terrible, actually, at remembering datesor calculations on the fly or remembering
like the exact thing,like human brains are really good
at making connectionsand remembering, like, general stuff.
But if you have to go,what is the exact thing?
When is this exact date?What is this exact sentence like?
We're not as good at it.Not impossible. Not that's good at it.
And so the
building a second brain framework, allows

(01:27:37):
it's a way to organize your digital life,to kind of act as your second brain.
And so, like, you're making it a pointto, like,
how do you get information into the space,
so then you can access itand pull it back out effectively?
And I really liked it as a way,as a way to organize,
like ideas and conceptsand like information or having some things
where you like,
I have this tab open because I know I'm in
any of this information,but I need to put it somewhere

(01:27:58):
so I can access it when it's important,as opposed to like
keeping a billion tabs open right nowbecause I know I'm gonna need it sometime.
And so hewrote this book, Building a Second Brain,
and the second book is The Paramethod para, which really talks
about how to organize your digital lifeso that you can take all this information.
You have and make it actually functional.
frankly, just as, as startup tools, I knowhe's, we can follow him on YouTube.

(01:28:23):
He also has gotten kind of really into I,I haven't followed as much of that stuff,
yet.
But looking at, again,the original building,
a second brain and, the pairmethod have been really helpful to me.
as a quick tease.
Well, this is episode five,and so our next episode is episode six,
and that puts us halfwaythrough season one.

(01:28:46):
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And so if you have hung out with usfor all five of these episodes so far,
and you are interested in seeingwhat the second half of our season
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please email us at hustlinwith hargis@gmail.com, comment at Hustling

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Oh, elite aroma I like that.
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