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August 28, 2025 27 mins

In this episode, former Israeli police spokesperson Gil Kleiman talks about making a deal with Hamas and Hezbollah. Given these terrorist organizations were founded on there premise that the Jewish State of Israel is illegitimate and has no right to exists, Gil questions how any agreement could possibly be achieved. By taking cues from US history, he assesses the level of US involvement in any future deal, and the shift in mindsets needed on the Israeli side.

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