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July 25, 2025 59 mins

With natalism coming to the forefront of American politics in recent years, people who have long been writing about the declining birth rate have begun to take center stage in the larger political discourse. Many of these thinkers skew toward a conservative ideology. This week, Josh and June read through the writings of a modern conservative natalist writer, Lyman Stone, to get a better picture of where the natalist movement stands and better understand the political demands of the conservative natalist in the era of Donald Trump.

EPISODE ART: Lyman Stone press photo from Demographic Research 

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21:12 / 25:44 - Lyman Stone in an interview with Vox Media's Today, Explained 

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