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Okay, so as you can see, if you are paying great attention to detail, it is a Tuesday.
I am posting this on a Tuesday and no, that is not normal.
My regular posting time is Sundays, Sundays.
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But, you know, life gets a little crazy sometimes because I do have two young
children and a little baby.
So you know life gets crazy and I'm
trying to do my best to make sure I keep on
scheduled you know but this week
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So once again, like I said, thank you so much for joining me today,
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But I will get into that at the end of this episode. So please stick around.
Today's story is, today's case is quite interesting. It's quite interesting.
Basically, it's a Jane Doe. We have a Jane Doe whose murder has been is still unsolved.
So it's an unsolved murder and a Jane Doe. But she has been identified.
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But it's crazy because she was first misidentified and then some situations happened.
And then, you know, she got to be identified correctly.
So we're going to get into that later.
Right about now. Okay. So once again, thank you so much for listening.
And today's case will be the date, February the 14th, 1982.
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Now, Jane Doe did not die on February the 14th, but she was discovered on February the 14th.
And since that is Valentine's Day and our whole situation, our whole name of
Valentine Sally is based upon her discovery date, we're going to go ahead and go with that date.
Okay, so today's date for the case in which we will be dealing with is February the 14th, 1982.
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So let us begin.
Okay, so on February the 14th, 1982, 1882,
the body of a young woman was found on the Arizona State, the Arizona Interstate 40.
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Yes, Interstate 40 in Williams, Arizona, unlike I said, on Valentine's Day.
She was discovered by a state trooper who was looking for a tire that had came
off a truck that was passing by.
Okay, she was found laying face down under a cedar tree.
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She was dressed in a blue jeans with the brand name Seasons.
I'm not exactly sure about that brand. Maybe I should look it out.
Maybe they are no longer in business, but I've never heard of Seasons.
But that was the brand of jeans that she was wearing.
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Also a white sweater with red stripes and a 36C white bra.
There was also a handkerchief that was found near her body.
Also, on her jeans, they saw that the loops on the jeans were torn off,
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and they assumed that was because her body was dragged to the final location where they found it.
So, based on that, that's the assumption that they made.
She was also not wearing socks or shoes.
They also assumed that she was about five feet tall and about four to five inches
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and weighed within 120 to about 125 pounds.
Now after they had found out who she was, they put into the identification that
she had blue eyes and like strawberry blonde hair.
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But this was after they were doing the investigation and, you know,
getting information as to who people think she might have been.
Okay, so medical examiners had determined that she was murdered two weeks prior
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to her being found, okay?
And they assumed that her cause of death was asphyxiation.
So she died from, like, suffocation. She was murdered, though,
but by suffocation. Okay.
And they couldn't really determine too much about it because she had like some
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serious decomposition going on.
And she was basically, you know, off the highway, kind of in wildlife.
So bugs and animals and wolves and whatever's out there in the trees did get a hold of her body.
And, you know, I guess, you know, a lot of it was like eaten.
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Her face was like eaten away because, you know, I'm pretty sure they found her
with like bugs still going at her or whatever.
So, yeah, they couldn't really identify her because a lot of the the what would you call it?
We call it wildlife activity based on what they put.
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A lot of the wildlife activity was done mainly to her facial area.
So they could not you know once you
you know do like a composite sketch
or whatever it will probably be some some kind
of flesh still on the bone for you to kind of put things together but
now that you only mainly have like a skull you
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know however they do their their composite drawings
there they'll have to do that to
figure out the identity okay so a right ear was also missing because once again
wildlife activity one of these wolves or whatever's out there in the wild took
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her right ear so that was also missing,
it's a lot of these in this in this specific.
Examination, they are talking a lot about her mouth, you know,
and when I was reading the story, when I was reading this case,
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because it's not a story, y'all, it's not a story, it's not a once upon a time, this is a case.
When I was reading the case, it seemed like they were really focusing on her mouth.
You know, she was considered to be having some tooth problems problems prior to her death.
They found aspirin in one of her molars and one of her teeth were being prepped.
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One of her molars were being prepped for a root canal.
So in this specific case, they were focusing a lot on what was going on in her
mouth because she was having some dental issues.
And so they believed that she had also seen a dentist in Phoenix prior to her death.
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Okay, so once they were doing their investigations,
there was a Northern Arizona Arizona University student who believed that he
possibly gave our Valentine Sally a ride because she,
I guess she was hitchhiking near Chords Junction and she was telling him a lot from what he described.
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It seemed like she pretty much told him all
of her plans because he said that she was coming
from Phoenix where she lived with her friends
and worked as a dishwasher and that she
was she needed to get to New Jersey due to some family problems that she was
having and that she was planning to go to Little America truck stop to get a
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ride from a truck driver to the east coast.
OK, so on February 4th, this is where we have our main witness,
whose name is Patty Wilkins.
Now, I like to address people by their first names because it's more formal.
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You know, we can more remember this is who we're talking about.
So we're going to be talking about Patty. So Patty
remembers seeing her Valentine Sally entering her family's Monty Carlo truck
stop with a much older guy who looked to be around 60 to 65 years old.
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Now, when she saw her, she assumed like, OK, she is a teenager.
Teenager she's she's a very young girl valentine sally our
valentine sally is a very young girl and
she was thinking at this time of day why
is this young girl out and about with this
man so she said she approached her
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and asked her you know are you okay do you feel
safe like you know blink twice if you're
all right if you're not just let me know what's up you know
so basically she said
that valentine sally wanted to
stay with the older man and she
didn't you know because she patty said she offered for her to
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stay at the truck stop like if you don't feel safe please just
stay here stay here with us stay at the truck stop and we'll figure out i guess
she's like we'll figure out something for you we'll call your family we'll we'll
you know just stay here but she said that Valentine Sally wanted to go with the gentleman,
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the 60 to 65-year-old man.
And he ordered, once he was there, he ordered breakfast.
But Valentine Sally was not trying to eat anything because she was complaining about a toothache.
So Patty crushed up an aspirin and applied it to the tooth.
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So this is what, 1982? Okay, I'm not going to go there. I'm not going to get into it.
Because I was about to say, is that how we take care of toothaches? We crush up an aspirin?
Is that something? Can somebody tell me?
Okay, I've never heard of it. But anyway, so she crushed up an aspirin and she
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put it, she applied it directly on the tooth, I guess, because let's not ingest it.
Let's just apply it topically to the tooth back in 1982. 82.
So she did that. And then I guess later on, after she did this,
after the man was done eating, he left.
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And like I said before, they did find aspirin on her tooth.
After all that, all those two weeks that have passed,
they still found the aspirin on that tooth, which means right
after she had the aspirin
applied to the tooth they assumed that she was murdered not too long after that
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so we are assuming that this gentleman that she was with is is probably who
murdered her but like i said the case is unsolved,
they're not really sure if this is if that's if that's what happened okay.
Also, when they showed Patti the jeans and the sweater, she said,
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yep, this is that's who that is, because that's what she was wearing that same
day that she applied the Tylenol.
So, yep, Valentine's Day was definitely this young, just this young lady that she saw that day.
So in 1984, they had actually identified her to be a Melody Cutlip.
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And this was based on bite marks.
So based on bite marks from Valentine Sally compared to Cutlip's teeth,
which they said was kind of an unorthodox way of actually identifying the body in comparison,
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that's not generally done.
You know, that's not something they generally do is compare bite marks based
on teeth at the time, I guess, or maybe now. But that was considered unorthodox.
That was considered not that was kind of unreliable.
And so, like I said, she was identified at the time as a Melody Cutlip.
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But this Melody had ran away from Florida.
She was a runaway from Florida. And so when they went to her mother to finally
say, OK, we found your daughter, she who had ran away back in 1980.
This is 1984.
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They went to her mom and said, we we have your daughter. We found your daughter. We have her body.
They said that her mother refused to take that body.
She refused to take it and refused to accept that that was the body of her daughter, Melody.
And she was correct. She was absolutely correct.
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Because then in in 1986, Cutliffe had returned home.
So you see, 1984, they're telling this lady, ma'am, your daughter's dead.
Okay, we got her body right here. It's back. It's back in Arizona. We got her body for you.
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Come on and come identify her
so that we can go on ahead and give it to you so you can do your thing.
But like I said, she said, no, no, no, no, that is not my child.
And like I said, she was correct.
So, but they did bury Valentine Sally now.
She had been buried and it said that, who did it? But, oh yes,
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Patty had paid for her to be buried.
She paid for all the expenses and everything.
This Patty seems like she was just a lovely lady. She was an absolute precious thing.
She was a very lovely young, I don't know if she was young or whatever,
but this was a good, this was a very good woman. So she paid for...
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Valentine sally's body to be buried and they buried her with the headstone having the name,
melody cut lip and you know
her mother had told them numerous times please take that off because i've already
told you guys this is not my daughter this is not my child this name is associated
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with my daughter's name y'all are identifying this child to be my daughter and
it is not so please please remove that.
So they did not remove it. And even after identifying,
you know, finding out that Melody actually is not dead and she did return to
her mother and Valentine Sally is not Melody, they still did not remove that name.
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So guess what? In 1998, guess what happened?
Melody died in a car accident in 1998 so
you know what i'm gonna just say that they done put this girl on the ground
they done put that girl's name on a
headstone and pretty much said even though you're alive you're you're gonna
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be dead in a minute oh jesus that's so irritating so yeah they still you know
they still didn't remove her name they had her name on that tombstone and they
They had formerly known as Valentine Sally,
Melody Colbert, call it, cut lip, whatever. Okay.
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So they had misidentified our Valentine Sally.
And therefore they had to go back to the drawing boards.
Okay. So they started to do...
You know, composite drawings and facial reconstructions, you know,
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and sketches and such, which so they were doing that.
And they did like several of them, you know, several based on the boy's description,
based on Patty's description, and then based on CT scans of the skull.
You know, they came up with several different sketches and molds of what she possibly looked like.
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So, Patty, you know, after all of this, of course, they had to go figure out,
okay, she was last seen with this truck driver, right?
She had the aspirin placed in her mouth,
and the aspirin was still in her mouth at the
time of her death at her death site right over
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there where they found her right so let's go
figure out who this truck driver is because more so likely who done did it probably
him okay so they went back to patty again and patty was describing him like
i said i said before that he was between 60 to 65 that was based on another
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article where this article also states
that she said he was between you know somewhere in his
50s so he was between 50 to 65 okay and she said that he was a medium built
and about five feet eight inches tall and that he had on like a two-tone checker
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pattern leather vest and
a black felt cowboy hat with a feather.
Okay, young lady, just based on this outfit, you know what, let me leave that alone.
I'm not, I'm not, I was going to say, why would you even go,
but I'm going to leave it alone. You know what, it's done.
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Our Sally had died, unfortunately.
Let's leave it alone. Okay, so this was a description that Patty gave.
And then you know they started to
do a sketch based on everything that she described she described how he looked
and all this stuff so they did a sketch and based on that sketch it was assumed
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that he was a you know he looked kind of like they were saying that he looks like
the serial killer, Royal Russell Long,
was active at the time of her death.
So, you know, when they, they didn't really get to establish the connection between the two.
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But, you know, it was assumed that maybe it was him because he,
you know, he traveled along that Interstate 40 And he had murdered two other young ladies,
a Cindy Pallett and a Charlotte Kingsley, back in September of 1981.
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So he was already, you know, he
was being sentenced for murder for their murders back in August of 1985.
And like I said, Miss Miss Valentine here, she was found 1984 and he got sentenced in 1985.
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I'm sorry. She was found in 1982 and he got sentenced in 1985.
And the young ladies that he killed were also back in, you know,
81. So 81 in September of 81.
And our Valentine died in February of 1982.
So that's pretty close to me. That is that's pretty close.
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So it could it could definitely be this man.
But they never put two and two together and they
never accused him of of her murder and he
never fessed up to it he never said anything about it and
he can't because he died of
a heart attack in 1993 so ain't
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no telling if he did it or not it was
assumed that it was possibly him but ain't ain't
no telling ain't no telling so we
are like I said the case is unsolved at
this point because our one possibly our one
possible suspect has died already and
can't go to trial and we can't we can't
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do I guess if they want to continue you know
do like fingerprints and however they do
their forensic stuff if they want to get
into all of that they possibly could do that but like
I said at this point it's considered unsolved so okay so in 2005 Valentine Sally's
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case was then given to a cold case squad which was made of of like it was made up of like.
People from the sheriff's office, FBI's, you know, people that have dealt with
a lot of cases in the past.
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So, you know, they got together and tried to figure out a way that they could
possibly identify who she was.
And they decided to use a technique that was used in identifying,
I guess, the Golden State Killer and they decided, you know, genetic genealogy.
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And they decided to use that practice to, you know, get down to figure out at
least some family members or, you know, let's make some kind of connection based on DNA.
So they found a match match of her cousin they found a match in the DNA in the
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genealogy system to be a match to her cousin and then they you know went on
down the family tree and in St.
Louis Missouri and found out
about several girls that were a part of this family so they did some database
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searches churches and you know i'm not going to get into the technicalities
of anything but all in all.
They found out they found out who she was based on most of the people in the
family tree being accounted for most of the young ladies being accounted for except for.
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One of them who was said to be a runaway and had juvenile records that were never expunged.
So they determined finally on
February the 22nd of 2021 that
our Valentine Sally was actually
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a caroline let me see
let me pronounce her name properly a caroline
celeste eaton from
bella fontaine neighbors missouri okay and around christmas of 1981 her family
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because okay this is what happened on christmas of 1981 before she went missing
this is the story i'm telling y'all,
Her family came home to find her and there were two other men that didn't nobody know at the house.
So they all got into an argument.
They got into a little altercation and Mrs.
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Eaton here, Miss, Miss, Miss, young Miss decided to go out the door.
And once she went out the door, she never returned. Okay.
And the reason she never returned is, of course, because she was murdered on
February the 3rd of 1982.
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Okay. So she left on Christmas and two months later, she was murdered.
Okay. Okay, so yeah, that is what they believed to have happened.
Like I said, her case is still unsolved.
But Miss Patty was, you know, she was keeping hope alive and she was still trying
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to, you know, bless her heart.
Miss Patty is she is truly an
angel and she has still been keeping up with the case of this young lady.
She's like, let me know. There's a quote that they put in this article and they
said, find out who did it and let me go stump on his toes. OK, that lady's funny.
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But yeah, that is the case of our Valentine Sally later properly identified
as Carolyn Celeste Eaton.
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