Europe Wavers, Ukraine Stumbles, and Multipolar Reality Arrives: Lavrov, NATO Skepticism, and the Unraveling Western Playbook Exposed Today

This morning on International Flavor, Samuel Trapp cut through the fog to unpack a shifting world that Washington still pretends isn’t changing. From Czech politics flipping toward Euro-skeptic realism, to Zelensky’s increasingly desperate demands for “sky security” before elections, to Lavrov’s blunt assessment that Western dominance has run its course, today’s show tracked the fractures appearing across Europe and NATO. Samuel also drilled into Trump’s new security strategy, growing calls to dump NATO, and the relentless Russian advance in Ukraine that Western media still whispers about. A candid, unsparing look at global reality. 

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Episode Transcript

(00:01):
We interrupt this incredibly awesome music to bring
you some incredibly awesome political talk on damn
radio.
Hello, good morning, and welcome to the Lake
Ozark real estate of the art studio.
I am Samuel Trapp.
This is international flavor.
You are listening to damn radio, and I'm

(00:24):
damn glad that you are today.
This is exciting for me because now instead
of ending the biggest talk radio day on
damn radio, which is Wednesday, I get it
started, which means I'm setting the tone, friends
and neighbors, and the tone is going to
be pretty good today.

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So Wednesdays are huge for us.
We have me, international flavor, 730 to nine,
nine to 10, we got the damn swag,
10 to 11, we have Gabby Hayes show,
two to four, JR, oh, JR has no
really big show today.
There's something very exciting going on, and I'm
involved in it too, but I ain't going
to talk about it.

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We'll talk about it tomorrow, I believe, but
it's an exciting development, both locally and statewide,
and I'm, I don't want to say deeply
involved, but I'm certainly part of the entourage,
let's put it that way, and it's going
to be really cool.
Four to six, we have the SOS search

(01:27):
for solutions, six to eight, Ike Skelton now
gets to end the biggest day in radio,
and I think that's very wonderful, I like
listening to him.
I'm still a bit under the weather today,
I've been drugging up and plowing on for
the last week, but my throat's a little

(01:50):
bit scratchy, so if I got to take
a few, a little break or so, we
will definitely get that done.
There's a lot of international stuff going on.
One of the things that I definitely want
to, by the way, if you want to
call in, it's 573-746-8020, and I'd
be happy to have you.

(02:11):
I'm trying to do a little bit different
format on the show here, I always have
plenty to talk about, and I can ramble,
but if you wish to interrupt me, please
do.
And I will attempt to do that, there's
going to be plenty of content, but my
main focus today is people never listen, and

(02:34):
well, in America, we never get the truth
anyway, from the mainstream media and stuff like
that, and they never tell you what the
other side is saying for sure, so one
of the things I like to do is
listen to the other side, listen to what's
going on in Russia, what they are saying

(02:55):
over there.
One of my favorite shows, as many of
you know, if you listen to me at
all, is Solovyov, in Evenings with Solovyov, and
Vladimir Solovyov, he's a very strong supporter of
the Russian government, let's call it that, but

(03:15):
I like listening to him, and if you
listen, and the format of his show is
fantastic, I'd like to create a show like
this over here, where you get six or
seven, well, he does, he actually does his
shows like every night, two and a half
to three hours, right, and so I like
the Sunday one, it's usually kind of a
bigger ticket one, you know, there's a lot

(03:37):
of topics that are discussed, because a lot
of people can't watch every night, like me,
you can only really watch once a week,
and get what they're doing, but I do
try to listen to it on my talk
radio, and listen to what they're saying, because
I think it's important, and we never get
that sort of discussion deep enough over here,

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in my humble opinion.
Now, we do have some truth-tellers out
there, there's quite a few of them, that
are the truth-tellers, I believe I'm one
of them, and I also don't believe in
sugar-coating stuff, I'm just not that way,
and so one of the things I like
to do is listen to what they say,

(04:21):
so I watched some Solovyov, there was a
three-hour deal that was last night, well
for them, it was, the show last night
actually would have come out for us about,
by the time it's done, they show over
there, I think his show is in the
evenings, and so you get the feed to
it, I get it around ten o'clock

(04:43):
in the morning, and so if I can
watch it and keep current, then I try
to, and yesterday I was able to, and
you know, but I'm always listening to it
in the background, and I sometimes don't have
the opportunity to get it full on, but
I did yesterday, and so it was a
good show.
Also yesterday, there was a presser that was

(05:07):
conducted with Vladimir Putin, another one with Sergei
Lavrov, I mean it's big talk over there
too, what is going on in the peace
efforts and Kushner and Witkoff have departed Moscow,
you know, and I give a little bit
of that, but I wanted to go through
some of what Vladimir Vladimirovich, that's Putin, has

(05:33):
actually said in the discussion yesterday, because I
think it's important.
There's been, okay, there's a city called Pokrovsk,
that's been the focus for a long time,
over the couple of months at least, there's
been an encirclement of Ukrainian forces, and when
I first started talking about this a couple
of months ago, it's a big city, it's

(05:56):
a strategic hub that, you know, a guy
named Gordon, last name of Gordon, who's a
commentator in Ukraine, was talking about how important
this city was, you know, a year ago,
nine months ago, he was talking about, oh
geez, we can't lose this city, we can't
do it now, he's of course backtracking and

(06:17):
saying, oh gee, it's not that important of
a city, there's not much there, and so
there was a presser with what Pokrovsk is,
and Pokrovsk, the Russians have always called it
Krasnodarmysk, and Krasnodarmysk is this city, and that's
the name it was, well Ukraine was changing
city names and all of that when they

(06:37):
took over power, if you will, when the
Soviet Union collapsed, and when they, there's also
talks that they're developing nuclear weapons right now,
to keep, to have themselves with nuclear weapons,
you know, which is against the nonproliferation treaties
of various types, and it's against the Budapest

(06:59):
Accords, it's against a lot of things like
that, but there's been some discussion of that,
don't know how truthful it is, excuse me,
but people have been talking about it, Ukraine
wants to go back to being a nuclear
power, now, I think that's a huge mistake,
they've lost half their population, and there's talks
about the old Z monster not making it

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another, you know, by mid-December, he'll be
gone, is what's said, and certainly no later
than December 31, the old green goblin will
be gone, and well now he's a black
goblin, because he always wears black now, and
every once in a while he wears a
suit coat, but I wanted to go through
the Putin discussions, especially on Krasnodar, Minsk, and

(07:45):
Pokrovsk, there's a city right next to Pokrovsk,
it's also another, it's kind of a big
conglomeration, the two cities are maybe, I don't
know, 10 miles apart, maybe less, and well,
the outskirts, you know, that each of the
suburbs run in, you know, kind of run
into each other, Mironograd and Pokrovsk, and they're
big cities, or pretty big cities, and pretty

(08:06):
strategically important, you know, and so they, they
encircled, the Russians encircled both these cities back
two months ago and said, you know, we
got about 10,000 Ukrainians in there, surrounded,

(08:27):
yesterday the Ministry of Defense of Russia has
declared that we now completely control Pokrovsk, there's
been a couple of things all over Telegram
that are showing, it's pretty funny, because one
of the shows that I watched, I went
through a video that was posted by the

(08:48):
Russians, showing in the middle of Pokrovsk, there's
a, I believe it's a university with the
top of the building, and the two Russian
guys are standing there with the flag, Russian
flag in the center of Pokrovsk, that they
have taken the city, and the city is
now in complete Russian control, and all of

(09:12):
the Ukrainians have either been killed or captured,
very few escaped, you know, and the Russians,
on the western side, Mirnagrad, is now completely
surrounded with Pokrovsk on the west, and they're
completely surrounded, and they say, now back two
months ago there were 5,000 soldiers there,

(09:34):
and another 5 in the city of Pokrovsk
is what they were saying, well now all
the ones in Pokrovsk are destroyed, according to
the Russian Ministry of Defense or captured or
have retreated but the city of Myrnogrod to
the east is now completely surrounded and it's
even worse in there and so they've got

(09:55):
all that's left in there now according to
the Russians is 200 now what they did
in Petrovsk when the Russians took it over
and showed that video I was telling you
about there's another video that is clearly AI
generated and fake which takes the two soldiers
holding up the Russian flag and turns the

(10:17):
flag into a Ukrainian flag now there's several
questions that that brings up if you've already
held Petrovsk why in the world do you
have to show that you've captured Petrovsk is
number one why do you have to show
that you've got a video which is identical
the soldiers are identical the only thing difference
is the flag and a couple of other

(10:38):
key points so in the Russian video you
can see on the right the one when
they took over the the the city was
geolocated and all that stuff and you can
see a little part of a destroyed building
that had collapsed from the university part and
because the Russians bombed the crap out of
it before they went in and it shows
this thing well and in the AI generated

(10:59):
version it took that little they showed a
part of the roof that had been blown
off and the part of the roof that
was on the ground the AI video turned
it into a car traveling down the the
center of the street as if traffic was
still coming back and forth and they showed
some other cars in the background as it

(11:20):
was clearly an AI video well that's what
the Ukrainians are posting as as proof that
they still have Myrnogrod but it's identical to
the Russian telegram videos it's pretty damn comical
so anyway those are some of the backdrops
for what has been discussed and so I
wanted to walk through the questions and it

(11:43):
shouldn't be too long but I think it's
important to say what other people you know
what the old the old Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
is actually saying so he gave a presser
and I want to walk you through it
kind of the question by question because I
believe it matters and so Krasnoyarsk and Pokrovsky

(12:05):
what he said the first question was simple
you visited a command post and emphasized the
seizure of Krasnoyarsk Pokrovsk it is said to
be fully controlled now by the Russian army
why is this city so important I think
that question was staged number one he wanted
to talk about this and his answer isn't

(12:27):
some vague patriotic you know BS he's got
a cold I mean military response he says
basically look Krasnoyarsk which is also known as
Pokrovsk has been a priority target for both
sides for a long time why and he
laid this out he said it's a major

(12:48):
infrastructure hub and this is what Gordon and
Erastovich the on the Ukrainian side have been
talking about for nine months and everybody knows
this is a key city I can't remember
the population pre pre encirclement or pre-capture
but I believe it was 60 to 100

(13:11):
,000 it's a bit it's a bigger in
the whole conglomeration with that in Myrnograd I'm
sure it's double that but because it's a
big it is a big hub and you
know they they have done it so he
says it's a major infrastructure hub for road
rail and logistics and it's plugged into the
communication network of the region and he said

(13:33):
and most importantly in military terms it's a
bridgehead that's a platzdarm for them it and
this platform that he calls it the Russian
forces can move in all directions and the
general staff says this is quite promising this
is what he says in other words the
city for the Russians well for the Ukrainians

(13:55):
too is not about symbolism it's about geography
it's about logistics it's the kind of place
you seize if you plan to drive deeper
and and the Pokrovsk needed to be held
by the Ukrainians you want a sign of
collapse take the loss of Pokrovsk as a
sign or Krasnoyarsk as a big sign of

(14:19):
the collapse of the Ukrainian entire front because
that was a strong logistics hub and now
they have nowhere and now the next step
is literally a huge bunch of fields and
smaller places that the Russians have been churning
up for the last year and a half

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you know they've been churning it's going slowly
they're trying not to destroy everything but they're
getting rid of of any resistance in there
and the Ukrainian army is on its heels
there's no doubt about that so he wanted
he reminded everybody that this was one of

(15:01):
the strongest fortified areas of the Ukrainian side
in Donetsk and now according to the commander
of the center group of forces it is
fully in Russian hands that's what he this
is what Putin reported yesterday and why is
he so insistent about this because he's pushing
back against this messaging and against these fake

(15:22):
videos that show the the show the the
Russian video that was taken in the center
and turn it into Ukrainian and Ukrainian flags
and AI stuff this and Ukraine's been very
good about that ever since the escalation back
in 2022 they have been creating these these

(15:46):
videos and he said no no it's contested
you know this is what the he goes
the Ukrainians are all saying it's contested it
isn't contested they're on their heels on the
western edge of Pokrovsk and the Russian commander
of the center group of forces says they've
pushed him out of this huge you know

(16:09):
critical plots darm this huge critical platform and
he says the Ukrainians say it's contested but
they are definitely exaggerating and then he goes
further he says if anyone doubts it come
and take a look now he's been saying
that for a while he because when two
months ago right a month and a half

(16:30):
when they had it encircled and I said
that he had offered any Western reporters CNN
reported yesterday that Ukraine is oh geez they're
still attacking it's good it's going pretty well
over there no sorry it's not and he
said I already offered this to you you
know come and have a look if you
want to get in we'll guarantee your safety

(16:50):
we'll help you get there we got them
surrounded both cities he said this six or
eight weeks ago said you want to come
in Western reporters have a look we'll get
you there well CNN is reporting without going
and taking a look the same crap that
that Ukraine is pumping down their throats these
fake videos and stuff like that saying oh

(17:11):
geez Pokrovsk is has not been seized but
it has and so he repeated his offer
to bring in foreign journalists or Ukrainian journalists
into the city so they can see who
actually controls it and he said previously Kyiv
tried to threaten journalists who might go that's

(17:31):
why they didn't come according to him now
he says Kiev has nothing to do with
it because the city is completely under Russian
control and he admits it is a dangerous
front line drones in the air situation is
not safe in the sense of civilian living
there but he points out that the Russian
war correspondents are already working there and they're

(17:53):
broadcasting from there and they're safe and Russia
is prepared to do what it can to
protect any foreign reporter who's actually willing to
report the situation on the ground you guys
want to sponsor me I'll go over there
I'll fly I'll fly over there to Pokrovsk
right now and well it'd have to be
after this afternoon but you somebody send me

(18:15):
the cash I'll fly over there and my
visa is good I'll get in and I'll
I'll go over and I'll report to you
from Pokrovsk no problem and I'll see who's
who's lying and who's not now I want
a pretty good set of geez maybe we
could visit a police department they're also militarized
these days I could go in as a

(18:37):
SWAT guy and just change it all to
say press and get my my Kevlar crap
all going because police departments aren't for peace
anymore they're not peace officers they're militarized guys
like that and maybe some of you like
that I don't I think this display of
of militaristic stuff of police is just wrong

(18:58):
I've always felt that way but in summary
the the first answer to the question for
any listener that's actually paying attention or listens
to what Putin is saying which is far
more truthful unfortunately than anything you get here
in the West he says Russia is presenting

(19:18):
Krasnoyarsk and Pokrovsk as a decisive operational win
and a launchpad for future push and that
is exactly the truth and he is confident
enough to make a claim again to say
come and see just like he did when
they had him encircled six eight weeks ago
so the second one is is Kupyansk Alexander

(19:43):
well let's say no no I'm sorry that's
the name of the reporter Zelensky said recently
that Russian troops are still in Kupyansk what
did he mean and he this was kind
of a half briefing and he shrugged it
off and he goes well why don't you
ask him he says Kupyansk has been in
Russian hands for weeks not days he says
Russian leadership lives on another planet he said

(20:06):
they're constantly traveling begging for money detached from
both economic reality and the frontline reality and
then he explained now so he that's a
political you know response to say geez we're
kicking the crap out of him all they're
doing is wandered around the planet begging for
money yesterday the old Z monster was in

(20:27):
Ireland and in Ireland he got a hundred
fifty million bucks they say that the hell's
his name's illusion II who has been in
who he was the guy that got fired
by Zelensky as the commander-in-chief of
the military when Sears key took over whatever
it was 18 months nearly two years ago
and they sent him to England to be

(20:47):
the the ambassador for Ukraine to England well
now people are saying because they want to
continue this and now it's clear to the
EU then and NATO that they got to
get rid of Zelensky because all the corruption
and everything that is going on they got
to get rid of him so the talk

(21:08):
is that they're pushing Zaluzhny and Zaluzhny's in
Kiev right now when he was well and
he's in Kiev meeting with people while Zelensky's
out you know begging for cash and so
he's out in Ireland and the Ireland government
gave him 150 million bucks so they're still
pumping money down this rat hole in this

(21:30):
corrupt rat hole and so Ireland sends this
money but meanwhile Zaluzhny who is the favorite
of the CIA according to everything that I've
seen is the favorite of the CIA in
the West and the US and especially England
to push him to be the next guy
in charge of Ukraine so what they're saying
is it just wait because now that Zaluzhny

(21:52):
is over there Zelensky will be gone by
the end of the month by the end
of December by the first of the year
he'll be gone and guess who will be
installed?
Zaluzhny and they will they will throw the
old Zaluzhny back in there he's a military
guy he was the one in charge he
you know there's they say that he's the

(22:13):
guy that masterminded if you want to call
it that the destruction of Saverny Potok 2
Nord Stream 2 up in the the Baltic
when this all started and Joe Biden was
saying we'll take care of that and then
it happened to get done I don't think
he did it without US intelligence you know

(22:38):
he and well anyway I think I mean
there's some big stuff going on plenty of
big stuff but Zaluzhny Putin went a little
a level deeper he said along the riverbank
there's another settlement called Uzlovoye in the Kupyansk
area and he said there's 2,000 buildings
in there and there's active fighting he says

(22:59):
600 to 650 of those structures are already
under Russian control and he says they plan
to fully take Uzlovoye in the next few
days so that's another big city and he
says on top of that that the Ukrainian
group of 15 battalions is on the left
bank of that river and Russian troops have

(23:19):
begun liquidation of that force so Western coverage
is talking about Kupyansk is contested same as
they talked about Pokrovsk and the Russians are
trying to advance what he's saying is that
there's always a picture where the urban area
is already in Russia's hands the surrounding settlements

(23:40):
are being taken slowly and piece by piece
in the forward movement is progressing and a
large Ukrainian group is now the target of
systematic destruction these battalions that he says are
on the other side of the river you
have to believe it I don't care you're
allowed to be skeptical but if you want
to understand how Moscow thinks it's doing you
got to listen to them this is how

(24:01):
they're framing it it's not holding on you
know we're not holding on and being pushed
back as they want to claim every time
Zelensky picks up another 150 million they want
to talk about you know we're not we're
not holding on we're grinding down and we're
destroying plenty of Ukrainians and that's terrible then

(24:24):
there was a question third question with him
was where is Europe in the peace process
it appears that they have walked out so
he said so the the actual question was
you're about to meet Steve West Whitcoff who
come to Moscow specifically for meeting with you
negotiations seem to be happening only through the

(24:45):
American side why are the Europeans have they
absent and he went into some pretty good
diplomacy his answer went like this he said
first of all Europe is not silent they
are deeply offended he says they're offended at
being excluded but he insists that nobody actually

(25:07):
excluded them that they cut themselves off and
that's a big difference and that's you know
over here it's like oh gee Putin won't
negotiate you know nobody will be there but
what he says is no we've asked him
we've said for years meet with us honor
our position they are at least consider our

(25:29):
position because nobody ever does they just want
to steal Russian money and say that they're
bad guys but nobody even talks to them
and that's what he's saying he says nobody's
excluded them they have cut themselves off he
describes how Russia used to have close contact
with a number of European leaders Putin speaks
German fluently and he was stationed over there

(25:50):
when he was a KGB guy years ago
in his German is fantastic in so they
could sit and discuss with Germany all kinds
of stuff the two biggest players but that's
absent everybody's absent and he's talking about that
but they he says they cut themselves off
and he describes how you you know use
how it used to be and he said

(26:12):
that has been done at Europe's initiative not
Moscow's the reason for that he says is
that European elites have adopted the idea of
Russia's strategic defeat and they've built their policy
around that fantasy world but even now he
says they know it is impossible for them

(26:33):
to defeat Russia you know strategically it's not
going to happen they know it's impossible but
they are unable to admit it politically because
of how bad they'll look how bad they'll
say this is what he said okay I'm
not you believe or disbelieve but this is
what he said then he laid out three

(26:56):
steps of this which are against Europe he
said they remove themselves from this process they
walked away from talks and can't complain now
about being excluded they sabotaged every peace attempt
in including all of those under Trump which
have been numerous since Trump took office a

(27:17):
year ago almost and they have pounded this
Zelensky's against it every EU guy France is
against it right now they're talking about sending
troops over there seriously sending troops people are
blowing up Russian what they call them shadow
fleet they're going in and attacking them there

(27:38):
been two ships attacked which I'm gonna try
to get to today and I talked a
little bit about one of them yesterday but
I have some more information on that of
what they they attacked but he says first
they remove themselves second they sabotage peace attempts
included under Trump and they interfered with them
worse because they didn't like where the talks
might lead that Russia might be considered you

(28:01):
know a major superpower again they don't want
that they need a strategic defeat and he
says they do not have any peace agenda
they have a war agenda even they when
they pretend to be adjusting their peace proposals
for example Trump's plan they keep adjusting but
those adjustments are just attempts to block talks

(28:23):
by piling on conditions they absolutely know that
Russia will reject so the bottom line is
Europe's goal as he sees it is to
force Russia to walk away from the table
so they can say look the Russians don't
want peace this is what he said and
if Europe is ready to return to reality

(28:45):
based on the actual situation on the ground
Russia will allow them at any time to
come back into the process so that's the
Kremlin's version I don't care if you believe
it or not but that's what he is
saying but it's a lot more specific than
the cartoon version you get you know here
in the west that they don't say anything
they take one or two sentences of what

(29:06):
Putin says or take it whatever they can
do to turn it into a threat that
is exactly what they do and so are
you know the next question Hungarian excuse me
I'm dying over here Hungarian foreign minister should
Jarrow so Jarto has warned that NATO's European

(29:27):
wing is preparing to deploy troops implying a
serious risk of war with Russia he said
are you prepared for war with NATO with
all of Europe and listen to this because
this is blunt and important and this is
why I like listen to him he doesn't
mince words either Putin doesn't mince words he

(29:47):
gets in there and says exactly what he
means to say and maybe these questions are
staged I'm sure maybe they are I don't
know but he knows the answers but but
I believe he does what Trump does talks
off the you know it's easy to say
something when you're not reading from a bunch
of cue cards when it's something that you
believe it's much easier to talk about when

(30:10):
it's something that you can back up you
already know it in your head I mean
that's true but if you got to come
with some political statement and follow a line
you gotta memorize something and all of these
people in the West he says that's all
they're doing but his question is blunt is
there going to be war with Europe that's

(30:32):
what everybody's afraid of even on both sides
of the planet they're afraid of this escalation
so he repeats that Russia does not intend
to fight Europe at all and never has
and he said he has said that a
hundred times but then comes the second half
he says and he's always been clear about

(30:55):
this if Europe sorry dying if Europe decides
to start a war with Russia he says
that Russia is ready right now for that
no mobilization panic no long build-up his
line was we are ready and we you

(31:16):
know if you if you want to you
know knock on the door we're here basically
and he stresses that this would not be
like the current conflict in Ukraine and and
this is also quite important what he said
was this will not at all be like
the current conflict in Ukraine he says the

(31:39):
operations in Ukraine have been surgical they have
been careful and he explicitly lined out this
is right now this in Ukraine is not
a war in the direct modern sense of
the war think about that and they're there
they have killed a million plus some estimates

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a million five Ukrainian military personnel and he
says this is a surgical careful they're not
trying to kill people they don't want to
kill people but he says in a real
war with Europe the way I took it
was would be more like World War II
where he warns it would escalate very quickly

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to a point where in his words there
is no one left to negotiate with now
that is a cold threat now that's a
stark deterrent message I say it's aimed at
these European idiots who are casually talking about
throwing boots on the ground in Ukraine or

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peacekeeping forces like it's a you know I
don't know tabletop exercise people playing a game
of risk and moving around you know little
pieces he says you escalate this beyond Ukraine
beyond what it is and he called it
specifically a proxy war he said you know

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everybody knows this is a proxy war with
NATO right now and you're killing Ukrainians and
we really didn't want to do that but
that's what we're doing pretty soon it will
be a war with you and that ends
very badly for you is what he says
now that if you want to take as

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a threat and you want to take that
is what has been said by Vladimir Putin
that is exactly how he said it but
the important part is he says we don't
intend to fight them we've been trying not
to fight them we've been trying to engage
in diplomacy with them they aren't listening they

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keep escalating they keep upping the ante and
he goes if you keep on escalating you're
going to push it now trust me they
said this for years and years before that
they said that sorry excuse me he said
you escalate that you're in bad shape and

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it ends well for you I mean ends
poorly for you and well for us frankly
I think that is probably true everybody is
saying that if Europe had to without US
support had to get ready to do something
they better get started if they think they
have to they're talking that by 2030 they

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want to be at war with Russia and
that's what they're planning that's why everybody's talking
about this 5% now and not just
Trump you know Trump's gone you know what
up your own stuff NATO take your own
stuff I believe what Trump is doing is
probably correct you know backing off on this
a little bit trying to finalize this between

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the only two that matter and it's it's
hard to say that Europe doesn't matter but
it's true and Ukraine certainly doesn't matter and
certainly doesn't matter to the EU or they'd
stop killing them all but that's what they're
doing you cannot defeat Russia on the ground
in Ukraine it's not going to happen the
only victory for you Europe Ukraine is politically

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that's it I see some changes going on
on the stuff that I set up I'm
gonna end it at the right time you
know and I already had that set up
and I put in my my Christmas song
for my early exit if you happen to

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be paying attention so I already had it
set to do exactly what needs to happen
to be out of the studio we're still
making this up as we go along when
we get out of here but I've actually
pondered it and set it up correctly just
so you know those who are listening at
any rate that was the Putin not all

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of it because there's a couple more questions
and he they talked specifically so there were
two ships attacked and he says it's you
know everybody believes that it was done by
Ukraine or worse may have involved friend France
now this is frightening okay this if because
he said that what when Zelensky was in

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France a couple of days ago he met
with you know his his best buddy which
is Macron and that Macron put out after
that and said that you don't have to
worry about Russian economy for long the Russian

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economy will collapse pretty soon and right after
that there are two attacks on shadow fleet
tankers okay I told you about one of
them yesterday then he talks about he was
asked about he was asked said please comment
on the attacks on tankers near the Turkish

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coast now I've been to Istanbul I love
Istanbul Istanbul is fantastic the Bosphorus is right
there the Straits that go through and connect
Asia and Europe basically it's a beautiful city
and and and I really you know I've
been there five six times now and I

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like Istanbul in heck you can live there
comforts expensive as hell but you know European
city like that but it's huge they have
like four or five international airports you can
get from anywhere it is a central hub
for the world that is very very significant

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and the Straits of Bosphorus also anytime day
or night huge ship tankers going through there
connecting Asia and Europe and they and they
come out of the Black Sea and they
connect to the Mediterranean and it's it's freaking
beautiful to watch and now Russian shadow fleet

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ships are being attacked near there okay and
so he was asked to comment about this
and he said he hasn't yet received all
the full details but he knew the basics
and what has happened is these tankers were
attacked in neutral waters or those that are
in the exclusive economic zones of a third

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country in this case Turkey they are not
in Ukraine or Russian territorial waters and so
what he says he says this is piracy
pure and simple and then he says he
reminds everybody that Ukraine previously has tried and
with some success hit Russian seaports you know

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on the Black Sea they've been attacking Crimea
they've been attacking Sevastopol there's a couple other
cities down there on the north edge of
the Black Sea that they've been after and
they have all of these drone ships that
Russia is constantly dealing with they've tried to
take out the long bridge between Russian mainland

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and Crimea on quite a few occasions and
he said Russia is going to respond with
its own strikes according to him but they
were more powerful and effective now this mean
and he was pretty blunt about it he
goes in the Black Sea and other places
they know when American or Western ships are

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coming and they have destroyed a several of
them on their way to Odessa or whatever
other port they pick on the black usually
it's only Odessa and Russia is now that
they have Pokrovsk the next step would be
Nikolaev and Odessa those two southern places you

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know he was talking about that so they
are prepared for the escalation they're also prepared
for what Macron has been saying to take
out these other you know ships that might
be coming to deliver ammunition to deliver equipment
to Ukraine so you know he says that

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these strikes that Russia's take are far more
surgical they're focusing on ships carrying weapons and
ammunition for Ukraine what the ships attacked yesterday
was carrying sunflower oil and France is trying
to take out these Russian the Russian economy
and how do you do that you take
away its ability to supply things in the

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sea and you have to come up with
other ways to track it or you destroy
their rail yards you destroy their infrastructure for
for the refinery of oil stuff like that
and so he's talking about he is even
secondary explosions he said but what's happening now

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with the attacks on civilian tankers and third
countries and economic zones he says this is
piracy and not legitimate warfare it's like terrorism
so what does he threaten to do what
does he say the answer of Russia will
be is to expand the list of targets
among Ukrainian port facilities and ships that are

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going into Ukrainian ports he said he would
consider not not as a promise but consider
retaliatory measures against ships from countries that are
helping Ukraine carry out these attacks and this
is in response to Macron being an idiot
and Macron saying we're going to destroy the

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Russian economy the EU idiots saying that we're
going to destroy the Russian economy and how
are we going to do that we're going
to attack Russian ships Russian shipping even on
their shadow fleets they're there you know saying
that that's they're going to do and what's
Putin say he says well we're going to
take out some more Ukrainian port facilities and

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we're going to consider retaliatory measures against ships
from countries that are helping Ukraine you're taking
out third country ships that are carrying Russian
produce or Russian products and you know in
economic zones of third-party countries you're engaging
in territory piracy blowing up these these ships

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or attacking them well we're going to consider
doing the same to you and then the
most radical option he named was to cut
Ukraine off from the sea entirely now that
is what I have stated this is the
first time I've heard him come out and
say this he said we will cut them

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off entirely well how do you do that
because so far they haven't done it the
next city especially after well there's a cup
there's another city I forget what it's called
I want to say Zaporizhzhia over to the
west that they would have to take two
right on the Dnieper River but they've got
to get over there but the next step
after that and they've already crossed over is

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Nikolaev they already have everything from Zaporizhzhia on
that side but not the city of Zaporizhzhia
that that'd be the next big chunk which
is in Zaporizhzhia now the west of that
is Nikolaev and then the little southwest of
that is Odessa and Odessa is a big

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seaport historic Russian importance Odessa on the Black
Sea is has been a Russian port naval
port even from Sevastopol is the main one
down there but as a as a big
port city but this is the first time

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he has said that this is where we
could cut them off from the sea entirely
so if you want to take that as
a threat again you can do that and
he ends with a warning to Kiev and
those that are standing behind Kiev think hard
about whether you really want to continue this
practice of attacking peaceful ships carrying sunflower oil

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you know to some foreign port in the
neutral waters or economic zones of third parties
this is this is bad stuff this is
like you know in my opinion the US
blowing up ships in that are leave our
boats that are leaving Venezuela this is just

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dead wrong no matter how you slice it
you don't blow up first and ask questions
later the diplomacy has got to occur not
firing upon non-military vessels whether you think
they're carrying drugs or sunflower oil I frankly
happen to agree with that so he did

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say think hard about whether you really want
to continue this practice we're gonna come back
to those tankers if we have some time
it's the Kairos and the Virat and there's
a couple others later in the show cuz
that story is bigger than just two hulls
and a bunch of insurance paperwork but that
is that was the end of the Putin

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presser and I spent quite a bit of
time on that but I wanted you to
hear exactly what he had to say and
because they never tell you and they don't
tell you the reason why they don't tell
you anything behind it over here you get
a cup all you would have got from
that entire presser if it was somebody other
than me is OG Putin's threatening to blow

(45:56):
up civilian ships or OG Putin says you
know he's gonna destroy you know other cities
well there's a huge explanation behind that and
behind what he says and you know you
were never gonna get rid of this war
unless we listen but nobody listens in fact

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nobody tells you the real story to listen
to I appreciate you listening to me here
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good stuff well I wanted to cover a

(47:02):
little bit you know maybe I'll go maybe
I'll skip forward here and go to those
ships because I think those ships are important
we had the arrest Ovich the guy who
talks about you know the former Zelensky a
there was a good show that he put

(47:22):
out yesterday too but I think I'm gonna
go to the the shadow fleet the dangerous
game that's being played with these ships you
know the Kairos de Verat in this dangerous
game so let's talk about the tankers and
piracy and more of a concrete terms who

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and what was hit so in the past
few days two tankers associated with Russian sanctions
evading oil have been hit in the Black
Sea both inside Turkey's exclusive economic zone so
they hit the Kairos which is an old
tanker operating under you know a flag it's

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linked to carrying Russian crude allegedly circumventing Western
sanctions and the Verats another tanker the same
general profile but both were were what well
depended on which side you listen to both
were empty at the time that which doesn't
make sense to me because if you are

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going to attack them why would you attack
them empty one of them was allegedly carrying
sunflower oil or was supposed to put but
who knows what what there's been various reportings
they were moving to Novorossiysk to load oil
when they were hit by Ukrainian naval drones

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the Kairos caught fire the crew had to
be evacuated by the Turkish Coast Guard the
Verat was damaged but stayed afloat a third
tanker the mid Volga 2 which was kid
this is what I told you about yesterday
carrying sunflower oil to Georgia was attacked in
the Black Sea off the Turkish coast so
these are three attacks nobody died but the

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point wasn't to ship a sink full of
people the point was to send a signal
to the Russian trade to raise insurance and
risk premiums now remember the insurance and risk
premiums almost exclusively worldwide been controlled by Lloyd's

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of London so the difficult part of shipping
is to get insurance coverage for the myriad
of things that can happen when you are
transporting things by ship internationally storms all of
that so a lot of times people won't

(49:57):
do your shipment if you don't have the
right insurance paperwork because a ship could be
carrying many products from many different places and
everybody has to be insured and all their
products have to be insured that's part of
the game well several years ago especially after
the start and remember this is part of

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the BRICS countries as well that I talk
about frequently on this show is that the
insurance has to be covered from somewhere and
BRICS and China especially they have started their
own insurance and people are this is this

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is what the war is really about you
know it is all of the control that
London and New York have controlled forever a
little bit of the other capitals and you
know Brussels and Berlin that people have controlled
and now China is rising and is providing

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some of the insurance and some of all
of that so what they're when they talk
about damage to this they're trying to damage
the entire system wide part of this and
this is raising insurance and risk premiums to
attack Russian stuff they want to make it
more expensive to be a Russian supplier and

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they want to move the war into a
new domain this war is moving up this
is now according to France an economic war
and we're going to destroy and by the
way it's a dirty economic war so and
Ukraine has no problem being dirty you know
they're dirty they're corrupt they will happily do

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this they will the the elites if you
want to call them that of Ukraine have
no problem killing people they have no problem
destroying things if they you know they have
no problem they justify this the end justifies
the means so if you want to destroy
Russia and that part of that is taking
out a pipeline on the bottom of the

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Baltic Sea that's no problem we should do
that and Joe Biden will back us up
right so you know where Ukraine will do
that you want to blow up ships oh
yeah we hate Russia so we hate Russia
therefore we can blow up their ships you
know and if a few people die same
thing I feel the same way about the

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Venezuela nonsense going on right now I might
do a full show on that or maybe
some more commentary on it later in the
week but right now this is about the
the escalations going on from the West to
keep this war going whether economically or on

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the ground and destroy more Ukrainians because you
know we have to fight to the last
Ukrainian and then France is already talking about
boots on the ground from France not good
why is Turkey important in this if the
war is entering into a new lane because
what I just told you is Istanbul and

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the Straits of Bosphorus this is a big
deal if you're gonna be putting some of
that you know you're gonna have that economic
war you got to start blowing up crap
and where do you blow it up you
blow it up where it is where is
it the Straits of Bosphorus I got to
go through Turkey to get Russian product out

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the south way so from Ankara perspective in
this economic zones none of this happened in
Russian waters not in Ukrainian waters but this
is Turkish exclusive economic zones this is the
area where Turkey claims economic rights and they're

(53:53):
very I don't know they they try to
keep the they protective they're very protective of
these rights that they have so Ukraine is
carrying out armed attacks against ships in a
third country's backyard so whether or not Russia

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owns those ships Turkey has to worry about
environmental damage if a tanker is loaded and
gets hit tourism damage you know tourism Istanbul
is a huge tourist location the mosques there
are unbelievable it's a beautiful city and oh

(54:35):
my god the shopping the seaside you know
what we have in America does not compare
I strongly recommend a trip to Istanbul if
you get the chance and so they're environmental
tourism damage security damage so foreign powers you
know getting their ships blown up or attacked

(54:58):
in Turkey is not a good look for
Turkey either they're using their waters as a
shooting gallery that's crap Turkey has called these
incidents a dangerous escalation and is allegedly talking
to NATO and others about Black Sea security
Putin called it piracy and a justification for

(55:19):
perhaps expanding strikes on Ukrainian port infrastructure like
I told you before so we have a
shadow war you know this is a war
of NATO in the US against Russia a
shadow war being conducted with Ukrainian bodies and
killing off of you know a generation of

(55:39):
men in fact several generations of men because
the average age is like 47 and maybe
higher by now be and there I heard
a report yesterday that 140,000 just in
the last couple of months young men have
run to Europe from Ukraine because they're afraid

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that the 18 to 25 year old exemption
which they haven't mobilized any anybody in that
age you can only volunteer if you're that
age everyone else's 26 year older and so
that's why I have an aging force that's
why they don't have enough people but all
the young men are running so whether it's

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war whether it's departure from the city you
got nothing left in Ukraine they've lost half
of the population at least so now it's
shadow fleets versus shadow war so these ships
to Cairo's to Verat and others have been
described as part of Russia's shadow fleet their

(56:41):
old tankers bought up by you know closed
companies and foreign countries that flagged them with
flags of convenience is what the West likes
to call them so people can buy you
know you can like here in the West
everything gets flagged as a ship in Panama

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lots of the ships are Panama for a
lot of financial reasons while they do the
same thing on the other side of the
planet to get through the Bosphorus maybe you
need a little bit of a different flag
and so they re flagged them but we
do the same over here and they operate
without Western insurance they're buying their insurance on

(57:22):
the on the Chinese market which is growing
and they're not using Lloyd's London and they're
used to move Russian or other sanctioned oil
there's no formal legal category really called the
shadow fleet but that's what they mean by
it is it's you know it's a political

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label it's a way for the West to
say well these ships are bad you know
there's their transporting sunflower oil from Russia so
France can call them bad ships in Ukraine
can attack them in a third party's economic
zone they can attack them hopefully not kill

(58:06):
anybody but disable them so they can't operate
and you know nobody likes that so it's
a way for the Western government to say
these ships are bad and for Ukraine to
justify attacking them but they're not breaking any
maritime law we do it all the time

(58:26):
over here the shadow fleet you get to
attack these ships because the only reason because
they're carrying Russian goods that's just as bad
as claiming that narco-terrorists on a ship
that you could stop that you get a
blow them up I'm strongly against this there
is zero justification it's only an escalation and

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if it continues it's going to cause serious
problems this Venezuela thing is not gonna end
well for Trump it just won't and I'm
not here to talk about that today we're
gonna keep on going but Ukraine has got
a step further physically attacking ships in a
third country's economic zone just like the US

(59:13):
is attacking ships outside of Venezuela to engage
in regime change it's not a legal brief
you know by any stretch but what they're
doing is blowing up stuff and making sure
that everybody in the world knows they're blowing
it up just like Trump is doing in

(59:34):
Venezuela so it's a they torpedo these things
they make sure it's caught on video they
post it all over telegram so people pick
it up just like the US is doing
in Venezuela and they're doing it to engage
in terrorism get rid of somebody that's what's
happening the way I see it there is
zero justification column narco-terrorists fine stop them

(59:59):
arrest them punish them you don't kill them
without a trial that is BS and you
can't oh gee it's wartime we have it
we have a drug war which drug wars
aren't conducted by blowing up countries nonsense but
that's you know we're very willing to do

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that sort of thing so basically you have
a shadow fleet moving oil a shadow war
in the Black Sea blowing them up in
a NATO country Turkey caught in the middle
nuclear power of Russia is talking about cutting
off Ukraine's access to the sea completely and

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target you know ships of other nations if
it continues now that is a scary threat
but who's escalating it people that are blowing
up ships in Russia's side of shadow fleet
in the coral areas we're blowing up ships
in the West where this is leading to

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World War three if it continues this is
BS no matter how you slice it there
this is the kind of escalation that doesn't
look too dramatic on CNN nobody talks about
it there's no big explosion with famous buildings
or things in the background but they're all
on video and you can see the tanker

(01:01:28):
limping they like to show that but they
don't want to talk about dead people we
only do that here in the on the
West we blow up we blow up the
ship completely what the shadow fleet they're only
disabling these ships to affect the economic economic
fortunes of Russia but it changes insurance landscape

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it changes shipping routes and it's a huge
risk changes a risk calculus for the world
you know let's get take it back to
the presser on what what Putin said he
calls these sorts of attacks piracy he talks
about expanding the strikes on port facilities and
he raised the possibility of retaliating against ships

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that are aiding Ukraine he's talking about doing
the same thing how many do you get
blowing up ships in international waters America how
many do you get Ukraine blowing them up
in the streets of Bosphorus how many do
you get before somebody retaliates how many do

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you get before China India other people take
more serious notice and do something about it
now nobody will the West you don't know
it'd be I don't think we're making any
friends with what we're doing in South America
just like Ukraine isn't making it in fact

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Ukraine is losing friends by what they are
doing so the most radical part of this
is it's the continual escalation there's a guy
named Alexei Aristovitch that I like to watch
as well used to be an advisor to
the Z monster and all of his advisors

(01:03:19):
are now ex-advisors everybody's gone you're back
the other day gone fired that's been a
drama scenario that I've been following for a
little bit apparently there were shouting matches when
Yermak was fired and the Z monster I

(01:03:40):
think Z monster is next on the list
they've already gotten rid of everyone that he
works that has worked with him that rose
with him to this power and he's next
and prediction Zaluzhny who has been sent back
to you to Kiev while Z man is

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not there is that's an interesting development might
want to keep an eye on that so
I watched a little bit of the Aristovitch
show you need he does every couple of
days he does like an hour and a
half and gets interviewed or he has another

(01:04:23):
political talk with another guy and so what
did he say he's a Ukrainian insider and
in this conversation he was talking about if
Zelensky leaves how does that affect the pace
of the peace process now I believe this

(01:04:43):
put Zaluzhny in place is an effort to
on the part of the EU continue the
war and the grift and the extraction of
money to keep the money train flowing to
keep the corruption flowing because they won't change

(01:05:03):
the system in Ukraine they'll just change the
players and it's clear that this is all
political you have to get rid of the
Z monster now Russia can't sign a deal
think about this if Russia cannot sign a
deal with Zelensky which they cannot if they
can't sign it because he's illegitimate Russia will

(01:05:23):
do it they can only sign it with
the West like I told you yesterday they're
now saying because it's enshrined in Ukraine's Constitution
that they're looking to the West and want
to be a NATO member that Whitkoff was
pumping to Putin yesterday that well we'll just

(01:05:47):
make it a NATO agreement with Russia that
Ukraine will never be admitted that way it
doesn't matter what those idiots in Ukraine do
we'll take care of it without them will
force NATO to make an agreement now Russia
doesn't believe anybody anyway like I've talked about
this before Russia never got in a treaty

(01:06:10):
from George Bush one that NATO will not
go another inch to the east but they
backed off and shut down the Warsaw Pact
when he said that it was preamble to
the agreement that actually was signed you know
Budapest memorandum Budapest Accords all the the destruction

(01:06:33):
of the Warsaw Pact and what happened immediately
after the US NATO immediately went after all
those former Soviet satellite countries to suck them
into NATO and continue eastward expansion to get
Russia so Russia won't just you know bend
over here they're not going to and so

(01:06:57):
that is that is how and why you
know it's gonna Russia won't agree to anything
with the z-monster and they might get
something done if it's Whitkoff in the u
.s. getting you know coming to the agreement
but Erastovich says you know the the discussion
they were having was if Zelensky leaves how

(01:07:19):
will that affect the pace of the peace
process he had a little bit different change
they even had a little bit of a
poll for the viewers will it speed things
up will it create chaos will it change
nothing because it's all scripted anyway or will
Zelensky cling to power like you know the

(01:07:42):
dying gasp of a man which I believe
the three and four Zelensky's trying to cling
to power right now he brings home the
bacon 150 million he drifted off of Ireland
yesterday he gets a battle give him another
week you know what I mean but I
don't believe anything changes because all this is
scripted anyway and has been from the beginning

(01:08:04):
and Erastovich is trying to be more blunt
about it as well at least since he
was you know sacked from Zelensky inner circle
several years ago but he believes that the
most likely outcome is not Zelensky reading a
dramatic I'm tired I'm leaving speech and signing

(01:08:26):
peace himself he thinks that Zelensky leaves but
he disagrees with me says that someone else
will sign a peace agreement Zelensky can't sign
a peace agreement he said he's been pumping
war for so long and grifting for so
long and being a beggar for so long

(01:08:47):
that he can't do anything about it but
why does Erastovich thinks that Zelensky leaves and
somebody else signs peace which I admit is
a another potential outcome but I think if
it's illusiony being pushed in by England that
that's a big continue on for another year

(01:09:09):
or so mainly with NATO funding but Russia
was gonna continue to advance and take some
bigger cities because truthfully the the front for
Ukraine is collapsing anyway it's getting worse they
can't bring people in and all the stuff
that we know and I talk about is
making it even worse for their mobilization efforts

(01:09:32):
I don't have anybody left to mobilize they're
into the sick and afflicted in the old
right now and they can't or won't go
any younger and take the 18 to 25
year olds so all of them have left
the country anyway and so but he said
Russia doesn't want to sign with Zelensky and

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why would they they've been saying he's illegitimate
and on principle they will not sign something
with Zelensky but a signature has to happen
so that means there's gonna be a different
name on the bottom line so we talked
about the near final state of the draft
deal and that that's what's gonna happen and

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in his telling there are two main sticky
points this 28-point peace plan territorial concessions
or will Ukraine voluntarily withdraw from the the
remaining parts of Donetsk or will the front
line be frozen where it stands there isn't

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going to be Russia back and off Russia
isn't gonna capitulate but that's what Ukraine's been
pumping forever we want them to capitulate the
winners don't capitulate that's just how it goes
you don't capitulate if you're the winner well
I won okay that was great I think
I'll back off that ain't gonna happen so

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NATO is in the Ukrainian Constitution Aristovitch reminds
us and so will Ukraine remove that NATO
membership clause from its Constitution and replace it
with neutrality and promise not to join any
military alliance and what he says is this

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is what Aristovitch is expected to bring to
Moscow we haven't heard all of those things
yet I'm sure there's things in the news
that I might be able to get to
here either in the final bits of this
show or certainly tomorrow a package where but
Aristovitch says that Whitkoff is bringing a package

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where those two issues are clarified or at
least negotiable and Moscow will respond to that
in this whole game the name at the
top in Kiev matters less than the decisions
being made on territorial losses or gains by
each side and NATO and Aristovitch is a

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pretty brutal guy anyway he says whoever replaces
Zelensky Zelushny some Parliament figure whoever will inherit
all the political costs of either signing something
that looks like a defeat or refusing to
sign and continuing the war I say that's

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what Zelushny will do they will have continued
loss and perhaps then the total collapse of
the Ukrainian army and Zelensky won't be to
blame because he will be retired to a
villa in the south of France or England
and if the successor whoever that may be

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says no concessions and we keep NATO in
our Constitution the war continues and the blame
shifts from Zelensky to the new guy especially
if it's Zelushny and then the new leader
is responsible for frontline collapses drone shortages corruption

(01:13:10):
in defense the loss of cities like Pokrovsk
Krasnodar Mesa and everything else he believes Aristovitch
believes the Americans are determined to reach a
deal now and I think Trump has been
pretty clear about that whatever the deal is
and will apply pressure accordingly to both sides

(01:13:33):
it looks like political pressure financial pressure and
maybe personal pressure I watched another commentator talk
about America removing military intelligence I've said forever
that that's very important and apparently that is
getting close you know that the US is

(01:13:56):
slow playing in military intelligence even now now
I don't know the truth of that but
it is being talked about he describes Aristovitch
describes a scenario where Zelensky is given a
personal guarantee that he won't die if he

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steps down and that he gets to keep
all his money and no one's gonna jail
him yeah I listen to another thing yesterday
that part of the things in Brussels they're
saying this is the EU is saying oh
geez America we we can't agree to anything
unless unless we still get a prosecute Vladimir

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Putin for war crimes but we don't want
I mean nobody else everybody else is off
the hook there's no corruption scandal there's nobody
chase for all the money that's disappeared none
of that but Putin boy that guy's guilty
of war crimes and we got to get
him there aren't any war crimes committed by

(01:14:58):
the by Ukraine inside Kursk inside what is
it darn it I can't remember the name
of the city it's right next to Kursk
and just north of Subi region but I
forget the name of it and all of
the stuff that's been going on there the
bombings in that in those places and the

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destruction of civilians in those places what what
took place between 2014 and 2022 inside the
Donbass when Ukraine was killing Russians because they
speak Russian or killing people that they disagreed
with and all of that the only one
that matters is is to the EU is
going after Putin right and so Zelensky gets

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personal guarantee to step down those guarantees will
unlikely hold they won't hold any long term
and he says that Zelensky is no longer
gonna be little Churchill they were trying to
claim at the beginning of this that Zelensky
was out wandering around looking like Churchill I

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never thought that I thought he looked like
a beggar the whole time and it was
nonsensical but on the system side Erastovich made
a point that lines up with what we
heard from what the Russians said and this
is important he says Russia doesn't actually care
whether Ukraine remains corrupt and internally rotten and

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he then unfortunately that's gonna continue if they
put Zelensky in there what Russia cares about
is its own security on the southwestern access
so according to Erastovich Moscow's priority is to
limit Ukraine's capacity to be used as an
anti-russian battering ram not to reform Ukraine's

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internal politics now they want that but it's
more important to get the security and so
he says the West and this is Erastovich
this is a Ukrainian commentator he says the
West especially Europe does not care about Ukraine
or its corruption they're tired of seeing the
billions stolen by somebody else they're tired of

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seeing the bill they want to steal it
themselves they want their own corrupt the chunks
you know my percent my my part for
bringing the deal together whether you call it
a broker fee or bribery or you know
a mafia it's the same old people doing
the same thing EU's own prosecutors office is

(01:17:38):
now looking to massive fraud involving European aid
on the European side so this corruption isn't
just Ukraine Ukraine is the worst of it
for sure but there's corruption everywhere in the
EU is looking into it as well so

(01:17:59):
he kind of ends up in a rather
strange place you know Russia wants security guarantees
to its southwest America wants a deal signed
to end this war and they don't care
what it costs anymore you Pete Europe wants
some kind of clean money laundering scheme through

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Ukraine they want you know they would rather
be a more clean about the openly corrupt
activities inside of Ukraine they want to be
able to hide it like they always have
been through places like US Agency for International
Development National Endowment for Democracy and others they

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that you know the money laundering used to
be pretty clean you could send it through
and take your 10 20 percent off the
top of this aid that you organized and
nobody would notice you know you could give
yourself a position running this what do you

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they call them the NGO and you could
give yourself a big position you know pay
yourself several million dollars a year and that
isn't considered the theft or thievery that is
considered you know have a good job managing
a good process but they pay themselves millions

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so they this is how the grift in
the scam continues and if we can keep
Ukraine in that we don't care if Ukraine
milk soft the top 10 to 20 percent
or whatever we said there longest before we
said it there we get a milk off
our own 10 to 20 percent or give
ourselves jobs that pay off in the same

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amount and make it look cleaner so aristovitz
is saying that you Europe wants a clean
less openly corrupt Ukraine so Ukrainian politicians all
they want to do is save themselves the
share of the money that they've been able

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to pull off and their own political futures
and somewhere in that mess according to aristovitz
the war will grind on until somebody probably
not Zelensky takes the risk of signing something
that his own voters is that Ukraine will

(01:20:37):
consider somewhat of a betrayal that you the
Ukrainians will see that you know you've been
lying to us from the start you've been
saying we know we've got the backing even
yesterday in Ireland the I don't know if
he's prime minister what I forget I did

(01:20:57):
watch it but I didn't remember what it
was what his title was the guy that
gave him 150 million though did the old
Z monster yesterday he said that we're going
we're with you until the end but then
he said even if it means you know
rebuilding so after you collapse basically here's 150
million enjoy your 10 percent 20 percent first

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and then but here's 150 million from the
people of Ireland and you know good luck
and we're with you till the end well
what is the end nobody knows so but
that's aristovitz and he always has a reasonably
interesting show is a little hard to listen
to because he's like so many Russian men
mumbles when he speaks but he doesn't open

(01:21:44):
his mouth or enunciate fully at least in
my opinion so he's hard to listen to
my usually gotta have subtitles on with him
to try to catch a quick view because
he talks so fast and mumbles a lot
or not clearly you may not like aristovitz
you may not even trust him and he

(01:22:05):
used to be a lot more relevant than
he is now but he isn't talking like
a YouTube cheerleader for Ukraine you know there's
too many of those he's talking like a
man who sees a wall coming you know
you're gonna hit this wall and he's trying
to describe it and what it is and
I think it was a pretty interesting show

(01:22:27):
you know no matter how you talk it
and some good commentary so I've given you
some real news from Vladimir Putin in the
beginning a real look at these shadow fleet
attacks and what they mean and a little
bit about what inside Ukraine people in the

(01:22:48):
know are saying this corruption where isn't gonna
just end friends and neighbors it's not gonna
just go away and before we wrap up
and I've got one of my favorite Christmas
songs lined up to get out and I
was always a yeah I when I was
a kid I grew up in went to

(01:23:10):
high school in Minnesota and don't you know
they talk like don't you know and they
don't they would say things like you want
to come with what does that mean and
I remember even in high school said somebody
go hey we're going to the movies this
Friday you want to come with and I'd

(01:23:31):
say wait a minute what are you talking
about want to come with you can't end
a question or end a sentence with with
you know it's you want to come with
you want to come with me to somewhere
you want to you know you want to
speak English but they would say things that
don't you know you throw it and one

(01:23:52):
of the things was a you know a
at the end of everything I remember when
I was a kid in high school you
talk about a a and don't you know
and and so one of my favorites was
Bob and Doug McKenzie do you remember that
from I think it was called SC TV

(01:24:12):
and the movie was called Strange Brew they
did a movie and then they had their
famous was with Geddy Lee from Rush and
it's a cool remember that and they would
do that that song is coming up here
pretty soon before we finish up the show

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and that'll be entertaining for us and I've
only got a little bit of time before
I got to kick that on so you've
been listening to damn radio and international flavor
and I'm damn glad that you have been
here every day now from 730 to 9
instead of the 9 p.m. to 1030

(01:24:56):
slot I'm now the morning guy there's a
lot of news going on but we're not
going to get to it because I got
to get this song out of the way
and I'm still learning how to make sure
that it works correctly to get her done
but I think I will get her done
just correctly so listen to my shows all
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(01:25:17):
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