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October 14, 2025 89 mins

Samuel Trapp slices through the Tomahawk circus: what the missile really needs to launch (Typhon vs. the flashy new XMAV), how few ground launchers actually exist, and why the “20–50 missiles” chatter is mostly theater. Then we follow the Hill’s Ukraine money lines (USAI, S.2592), count Patriots and the backfill shell game, and pull donor tallies from Kiel. Also on deck: a caller’s “pontoon-boat launch plan,” the Pentagon’s new press-access fight, and Europe’s mystery-drone scare. Skepticism served hot. International Flavor: Where the Truth Just Tastes Better.

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I have been doing some research today and i'm a little uh

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I got curious this morning. There's been a lot of talk about tomahawks and
and it's really weird because uh
I have a lot and most of us do have a lot of useless factual data in our heads
right
and I had this
Series of useless

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Data thoughts that just came
To my head and I was like, wait a second
the tomahawk
The tomahawk missile that we're talking about providing to ukraine, right?
We're supposed to be given tomahawks, you know, this threat's been going back and forth for weeks now

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Tomahawks, no tomahawks again today. There were four or five, uh stories about um
Tomahawks and trump's gonna make a uh
Big announcement tomorrow. Oh my god. I'm tired. Sorry
I'm over here yawning and i've had I don't I don't sleep. Well, i've already told you this and I have a I have a

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Serious sleep issues and have had for you know, a little while
Well many years in fact in driving me
Bananas, but anyway, this random thought came to my head and I was like, wait a minute
Trump keeps claiming he's going to give him the tomahawk
Zelensky keeps saying boy. We really need that tomahawk

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and
Putin and company are all going don't give him the tomahawk
and
Then we all start and think about it and go wait a minute
Putin's been saying that the tomahawk has to be launched with the assistance
of the united states
like you can't just
Have you know deliver a bunch of tomahawks to ukraine? What are they going to do throw them?

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You have to have the the launcher platforms and you got to have the right launcher platforms. What are they going to do?
Slingshot them somehow
uh the bulk of ours and I are in
are in
ships or submarines
Um, and I got pretty curious was sitting there going no, wait a minute

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How many and how do we shoot this tomahawk the u.s?
Because we can't just wander over and hand them to ukraine and say, all right, you're on your own
Here's some tomahawks
Have fun. So I I decided to go and do a uh, a short little
blurb about

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the tomahawk because
It's
Let's let's see what the tomahawk
uh, let's why don't we go just straight to wikipedia and see what the
tomahawk missile
really is
Okay, and whether you can believe in wikipedia or not

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We're going to go to several different sources on this
Because I have a theory and it'll come together on this. This is all a bunch of nonsense
This is nothing but posture and on on probably on both sides, but
More on our side than on the russian side and and zelensky. I don't know that he has any clue what's going on
But but that's me
I i've been wrong before once or twice if I recall so the bgm

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109 tomahawk land attack
missile
They give them these cool little names. This one's called the tea lamb
Is an american long-range all-weather
Meaning you could shoot it in the rain even or the snow
jet-powered
subsonic
cruise missile

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used by the
us navy
royal australian navy
royal netherlands navy
and the royal navy in ship
and submarine base land attack operations
Developed at the applied physics laboratory of johns hopkins university under james h walker near laurel

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Maryland the tomahawk emerged in the 70s as a modular
cruise missile first manufactured by general dynamics
Tomahawk aimed to fulfill the need for a medium to long range low altitude
Missile with diverse capabilities its modular design
Allows for compatibility with a range of warheads

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including high explosive
Submunition and bunker busters the tomahawk can use a variety of guidance systems including gps inertial navigation
Terrain contour matching over a dozen variants and upgrade versions have been developed since the original design
Blah blah blah we'll skip some of these from 1992 to 94 mcdonald douglas was sole supplier of tomahawks

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Producing block one and block three. I'm sorry block two and block three versions
and
Remanufacturing many tomahawks to block three specifications in 94
hughes aircraft having purchased general dynamics missile division
Outbid mcdonald doves to become the
sole supplier of tomahawks a

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joint venture between hughes and Raytheon
manufactured the missile from 95 until Raytheon's acquisition of hughes in 97
solidifying their position as the
sole supplier in
2016 the u.s. Department of Defense purchased

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149
tomahawk block four missiles
for
202.3 million dollars and as of
2024 Raytheon remains the sole
manufacturer of
Non-nuclear sea-launched tomahawks, okay

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And it comes in several variants. You have the land-attack missile nuclear the bgm 109 a
And it was retired from service between 2010 and 2013
reports from early 2018 say the US Navy is considering
reintroducing the nuclear missile back into service

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the
tomahawk anti-ship missile the RGM UGM 109 B
anti-ship variant
Converted to block 4 BGM tomahawk and land-attack blah blah blah BGM 109 D land-attack
RGM land-attack missile improved version also called tactical tomahawk

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So here we get to one called the BGM 109 G Griffin
ground launch cruise missile
GLCM with a
W84 nuclear warhead, which was withdrawn from service in 91

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back when I was in and
working for the on-site inspection agency under the
INF Treaty
Intermediate-range nuclear forces. We were getting rid of them. Okay, and so the ground launch missile systems were gone
Then came the medium-range air-to-surface missile a shorter range turbojet air launch cruise with

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Conventional non-nuclear warheads was intended for the United States Air Force and Navy
okay with Turk common route and DS MAC terminal guidance and payload of
runway cratering
submunitions for the Navy with the unitary warhead was entering service and
The ground launch cruise missiles and their truck like vehicles were employed at bases in Europe

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Until they were withdrawn from service to comply with the INF Treaty
Many of the anti-ship versions were converted to T lamps and then they talk about how they get upgraded
major improvements to the tomahawk network
come from
They get data to find its targets and the tomahawk block B variants

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So I'm trying to figure out how they're going to mount them
So the and so I spent a little bit of time going through this
Because they have these missiles
They have strike controllers and the Navy is still the ones who carry most of these

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Missiles and they are ship based
Missiles, which is the launch systems. Let's see. Each missile is stored
Let's see the bulk of them are installed in four reactive
Iowa class battleships to Iowa to New Jersey the Missouri the Wisconsin

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The ABL's were installed on eight
Spruance class destroyers for Virginia class cruisers and the nuclear cruiser the USS Long Beach
These canisters are in vertical launch arrays on other surface
Ships as well in the later, Los Angeles class submarines the Virginia class submarines and in submarine

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torpedo tubes
So the bulk of these things are hanging out in
On the ships. Okay, and so I'm sitting there going. No, wait a minute here here we have the
There's some also some some
launcher
Systems that came about a little bit later the Marines had some

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That came out and we'll talk a little bit about those
The Navy has a history of using these things to Marines in the Gulf War
Shot and let's see number of Tomahawk missiles actually fired in

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The Gulf War
288 in Iraq
Part of Iraqi disarmament
46 and
23 in 93 206 and 93 17
operation deliberate force Bosnia Herzegovina
13 were fired

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more Iraqi disarmament
44 more operation infinite reach in Afghanistan and Sudan we fired
379 operation desert Fox Iraq did
325 NATO
intervention nice word there in Yugoslavia
218 operation enduring freedom in

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Afghanistan 50 more
2003 invasion of Iraq
802 the Dobley airstrike in Somalia to
Al-Qaeda training camp in Yemen in 2009 to
2011 military intervention in Libya 124 military intervention in ISIL Iraq

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47 in response again in Yemen 5 chariot missile strikes in Syria 59
218 bombing in Damascus and on Homs Syria 66
bombing of Yemen
135 March
2025 they didn't list any they didn't none were fired there an attack on Iranian nuclear sites

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Just recently we allegedly fired 30. Okay, the United Kingdom Japan
Netherlands Germany
But they were removed from Germany Spain was interested in acquiring the Tomahawk system
Cancelled it in 2009
Let's see

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There there are
plenty of these that talk about it and very few that talk about shooting them from
Anywhere, except a ship and Ukraine don't have any
Many ships they had one if I remember and it got destroyed in in in the river

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Not too long ago. And so let's go back and have a look at
There was an article I read so on these other
Operating systems. Let's see here
Here's one coming out and this is a Ukrainian

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friendly
News organization here and it says and this came out just today October 14
2025 get this there's a
The u.s. Rolls out a new
Mobile Tomahawk launcher that could one day strike for Ukraine

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This get this article
This is entertaining as the u.s. Explores more mobile and autonomous ways to launch long-range missiles
one system
unveiled in Washington today
Could mark a turning point for both American doctrine and for Ukraine's future strike capability

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This is today at the a USA 2025 Defense Expo in Washington DC Oshkosh defense
unveiled what they call the XMav a
new mobile land-based launcher designed to carry four
Tomahawk cruise missiles the vehicle developed as part of the u.s. Is

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Modernization efforts is entering the spotlight just as Washington and Kiev engage in technical talks
over a possible transfer of Tomahawk systems to Ukraine
Said army recognition on October 14th the XMav which stands for extreme
multi-mission autonomous vehicle is

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Engineered for cross-country mobility
Autonomous operation and rapid repositioning
According to army recognition it offers a more survivable and flexible alternative to the current
containerized
Typhoon launcher system used by the US Army which has been deployed

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Which has already deployed land launch launched Tomahawks to the Indo-pacific theater now this is
Highly unwieldy when you look at a picture of this thing you got a huge truck with
What is the name of that thing that they put them on the on the

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Man
They're more they're usually used for fuel deliveries and stuff like that and I can't remember name them from my old army days
but there's a huge trailer a
Huge trailer being pulled behind it and it's got a box on it and this box has to be pulled behind the trailer
so all total you have one two, three, four, five six seven sets of wheels and

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These wheel I mean that they got wheels everywhere in this and I'm not sure that this is all that mobile
This thing is huge. So this typhoon system is the one that
Is the one pulling a trailer right? So the typhoon system which relies on trailer mounted launchers

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is
You know, really not all that mobile
So the XMAV is built for off-road operation in contested trains
It's got same for missile capacity
but it has better mobility and a little bit of a reduced signature because they can shoot and scoot as the army likes to call it and

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Easier conceal themselves in wooded or urban environments
The XMAV is part of a new family of multi-mission autonomous vehicles
Which include the MMAV for Gia GM LRS and PRSM
rockets and the LMAV designed to launch switchblade 600 drones and

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counter unmanned air hill
systems and
So each of these, you know, they had they show pictures of them all the rollout comes as Ukraine
Ukrainian officials confirmed on October 10 that Kiev and Washington are now in
Detailed and active technical coordinate technical coordination on Tomahawk integration

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This includes discussion on missile configuration
targeting
Architecture now, that's very interesting
targeting architecture because
Everybody knows you cannot target a Tomahawk without a u.s
intelligence platform from somewhere and
Suitable launch platforms. Well, I'm here to tell you there aren't any

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suitable launch
platforms
President Zelensky stated that if Tomahawks are transferred
They would be used exclusively against military targets a message intended to manage
escalation concerns with Moscow
Don't believe a word that any of that specially Zelensky says about that

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They will definitely use them against Russian infrastructure or
Russian civilian targets no problem and they will do that and not say anything about it and but they will have to
If the u.s. Targets them that is an escalation. And by the way
Everybody is saying that if they do do do provide the Tomahawks. It's automatically an

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Escalation and will destroy any chance of the u.s. And Russia has of working together in the future near future
anyway
So
Several articles. There's another one called. What is a Tomahawk missile?
And how can it help Ukraine from a technical standpoint the x-map supports the US Army's common autonomous?

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multi-domain launcher concept
and Oshkosh hasn't
Pre-created one they had one
What do you call it?
showpiece that they put out at the
At the exhibition and that's it and
So so that's the news of today

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yesterday there was a
an article
Trump offers Putin a choice
Settle the war or face the Tomahawk
right said he plans to raise the possibility of
Sending Tomahawk missiles to Ukraine if he doesn't agree and this is from Fox News Trump said he spoke with

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Zelensky the same day and discussed Ukraine's weapon needs so I went through the budget to find out where they are
No
Safe zone would be left if here's some latest news from October 7 boy
They've been pushing this there so many articles could the u.s. Miss and there's another one on the Barracuda

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Versus the Tomahawk and whether that could provide something
Enderil's new Barracuda family of cruise miss cruise like missiles has emerged as a cheaper longer range
alternative to scarce
Tomahawks, but with small warheads and no mass production line

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Let's see how that stacks up
Enderil industry's new Barracuda family of wing crews like missiles often described in Ukraine as
Rocket drones has attracted attention as a potential medium-range option for strikes in the European theater Ukrainian defense
media outlet Defense Express reported on October 2nd
But despite promising ranges and low cost per unit to Barracuda line comes with drawbacks that limit its usefulness for

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High value strikes very small warheads and no current production capacity
Well, that's depressing for them, isn't it?
But there's no real production capacity for the Tomahawk either which we'll get into here in a minute
So, let's see. I want to

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Go back to here where we get why why all the hubbub
about all of these alleged Tomahawks going everywhere, so
So
again, the Tomahawk is a
subsonic sea or land launch cruise missile

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But it's been a United States Navy me and other Navy's mainstay since the 80s
And and then they've you know upgraded them all the time. The latest generation is block 5
ranges described as about
900 nautical miles or about 1600 kilometers, but exact figures by variant are classified

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it can go speeds of
Mach 0.7 to 0.75 according to the Navy
Let's see
It's a solid booster kicks it out of the canister
Wings pop out and a small turbofan takes over for subsonic cruising

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It has INS or GPS for midcourse turcom terrain contouring matching and DS MAC digital scene
Matching to hug the ground and match stored maps in the terminal area. It's harder to see on radar until
too late
Block four and five the latest ones at a two-way data link

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so a controller can reroute retarget or
Loiter for a better shot window, right?
Warheads are typically a thousand pound class unitary
but they can be
you know use a
Bunker buster for hardened targets or something like that

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The launch platforms are what's interesting ships submarines
You know, we know we have those and those are the vast majority of these but the US Army has ground launchers the Typhoon
the SMRF and the MRC
for
strike strike length

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Mk41 cells in a 40-foot
container on a tractor trailer
They can fire the tomahawk missile or the sm-6 the first live tomahawk was shot
out of such a container in
2023 the first overseas deployment
Was to the Philippines in April of 2024

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The u.s. And that was in the Typhoon the one I was telling you about that comes on a weird container shaped trailer
That's a extremely large and unwieldy
so
The US and the Philippines say that Typhoon remains forward and is in training and contingency use a

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battery typically fields for four cell launchers 16 cells
Okay, and so they could argue, you know if they can cart them around
In the new Oshkosh XMAV, which we told you about it came out here just today
They also allegedly had the army in the Marines had a single round

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trailer style launcher
They demonstrated these single cell strike length
Mk41 launchers on small trucks or a trailer and they called them the rogue fire or jail
LTV based launcher. They had long-range fire single cell concept noted for

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2026 these are concept to demo. They're not fielded
It's meaning so two of these three the Typhoon is the only one that's fielded and it's only been fielded in
2023 and it's in the Philippines
Okay, so we got problems on there unless your ship shooting them from ship to shore or ship to land ship to wherever you're

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you're gonna fire them and I don't know how they're gonna give these to Ukraine because Ukraine can't put them on a ship and
Maybe somebody can you know, I'd be happy to learn more about this if it's if it's not out there
this is all research I've done today to go and find out because I don't remember this from my missile training when I was

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Eliminating missiles under the INF Treaty. I remember getting rid of some of these most of them were
Our
Pershing twos we were getting rid of but we were also getting rid of many other classes that were coming up during the
INF Treaty and the Russians were getting rid all their ss-20s
So I got a little bit curious about how many tomahawks the u.s. Actually has

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the precise inventory is
classified but open sources say that the in the end DOD budget records show that the Navy has purchased
eight thousand nine hundred and fifty nine tomahawks historically and
Not more than 2,300 have been used in combat since 91

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Analysts estimate that approximately 4,000 are in the u.s. Inventory today
Getting rid of you know demolish getting rid of a demilitarization
using them in training or post expenditure
and
According to some current sources block five sites. They say that there are three thousand nine hundred and ninety-two

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missiles left and
How many are produced per year it varies by budget lot and the amount of foreign sales a recent?
Selected acquisition report says that the average procurement
unit cost cost per unit is
1.3 million dollars and

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It has about a 1300 kilometer range, okay and
Production is now between the new build block fives and
What do they really cost the u.s. Procurement data?
puts it at 1.3 1 million and
And

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block five the most the newest ones are 2 million and
Higher if you include spares and support
foreign military sales packages like training spare support
Push per round equivalents higher than that and say that they're closer to the three to four million dollar plus

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per round
once you include the
Requirements for what you have. So what the tomahawk can and cannot do a
Land attack they can do pre-planned routes. They can fly low. They can weave around defenses. They can retarget or loiter

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Maritime strike there. They can be a seeker and they have a software for for hitting moving ships, you know, they can do that
the reality versus modern
Low-altitude make, you know make it hard to detect until late, but they aren't invulnerable in Syria in 2017 and 18

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Russia claimed that to
shot down large numbers like only 23 of 59 ever reached a spot while u.s. and
Independence say the majority of missiles hit their aim points
There will be contested narratives in Ukraine to Russia says that they're layered defenses

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They're s400 the book the tour the panzer while Kiev highlights tomahawks low-level routing and complex guidance
It's tough to stop. We don't know
But let's go back and look at the track record
1991 Gulf War first major use
1998 Desert Fox 99 Kosovo. I told you about all of those and

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80 80 missiles in the first night since
1991 to any 300 fired in combat the new thing we've heard about is this launcher though
It's a heavy
Autonomous capable truck can shoot four
Canisters it so it's equal in salvo strength to the Typhon, but is far better off-road, right?

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And so it'll complement that but the
Single tomahawk trailer that one doesn't work. There's been news in the last few days that the most
This is the the funny part of it all because if this is a war game changer
You know, I'll be happy to eat my hat
I'm not wearing a hat, but I'll go find one and then put it on and then eat it

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Let's see how many can get to Ukraine?
At the very most
experts say that they could get maybe 50 and probably between 20 and 50 and
multiple outlets saying like the Financial Times
report US deliberations on a limited initial grouping Russia calls this a major escalation of course and

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Threatens to destroy the missiles, but more importantly to strike the launch sites
The Kremlin has been messaging hard on this point and the reason is
Because they can't shoot them, you know to use them on land
Ukraine would need ground
launchers
They don't have any the only

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operational US system to launch a tomahawk is the Typhon the four-cell container launcher and the
XMF won't be available for another year
They say they won't be available till at the earliest mid 2026
Okay
and so if anything we're making threats for for the future right and and and this is more

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posturing to you know force a settlement of some sort, right and
anyway
The there is that single cell but that also was terminated
Two years ago by the
Marines and the army had never had it and so they're not in production either

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The tomahawk is a proven but legacy
subsonic weapon Russia says it's defeatable with layered air defenses
Moscow says that any Ukrainian transfers an escalation and it will preempt launchers
you know you were where you gonna and and and
Remember Russia's already taken out all the attack comes. I mean there are very few of those left attack comes where'd they go?

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where the Patriots the
defense
gone
where the
what's the other one the
attack comes and
Forgot the name of it a token batch of 20 to 50 is
Symbolic millions per round two to three million bucks a shot unless it's paired with enough mobile launchers

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some sort of deception some sort of
radar to generate survivable
Scenarios for Ukraine, so Russia will prioritize just what they did with every other launcher system or
launcher for Patriot systems, which are
virtually gone

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So they'll take these typhoon trucks and x-mav assets
Loitering munitions ballistic strikes. They'll get rid of them
So I'm not so positive. This is gonna be a a good
Tried to find a number of the ground launchers that are actually in in

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Not production but in
supply
so the typhoon has
Let's see
How many launchers exist today get this?
To fielded batteries, which equals eight launchers, how about that?

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One aligned to the first
Defense forces and one earmarked for the third quarter
So they aren't even all both in their planned total army plan is one battery
with five batteries total by fiscal year 2026
With the next battery is going to go to Europe in fiscal year 2026

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They have deployments so far in Luzon Philippines arrived in 2024 and they were left in country in
2025 and
Training of Philippine troops is underway
So there aren't any launcher systems even of the typhoon, right?
And in 2025 Congress was briefed that procurement covered one additional

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additional typhoon battery that means four more launchers plus reload and support and that means 32
tomahawks plus canisters a
total of so get this for launchers reload support 32 tomahawks
233 million
dollars

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How about that the DOD has not published a clean per launcher or per battery equipment only price
so the bottom line today eight
operational army launchers with 20 planned by
2028
the first real-world forward deployment is the Philippines and

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that's of
the
typhoon the XMF is
You know, it isn't even it can do the same thing, but it's it's supposed to be more mobile and blah blah blah
Fielded zero and the unit battery cost is not yet public because nobody's bought any
Hmm curious, so

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What are we talking about?
With all these crazy thing the single-cell ones those I just kind of threw in because the Marine Corps canceled that contract
Effective in July of 2025 the army picked up the concept for a live-fire demo in
2026 as of today. These are only prototypes and demonstrator launchers. There's no operational battery

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No publicized cost
Unbelievable, I can't I feel like I've been once again had to had
You know just been snookered here that people are just
Giving me
Nonsensical nonsense and talking about and and I've been thinking about it for a while anyway, cuz Trump

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Tomahawks, no Tomahawks Tomahawks. No Tomahawks. Jeez, you know Putin. We're probably gonna give up those Tomahawks
Well, who you gonna give them to and how I mean, okay, let's what are we gonna mail them over? I mean
Who's gonna fire them?
Don't understand it
So the Navy platform capacities get this so and in almost all of these and I think it's important to put this

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so the Ohio class
boats four boats have
154 Tomahawks per boat 22 tubes seven rounds apiece, right?
so all four boats carry
616 but wartime loadout could be you know a little bit different and that's an Ohio class on a Virginia class the

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early blocks carry Tomahawks via torpedo tubes and
Then they can add four large tubes seven Tomahawks each means 28 apiece
Okay
And on the Arleigh Burke, they can hold 90 to 96 VLS cells depending on the flight cells are mixed and
So Tomahawk counts very per ship, but most of these are for ship

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New I don't I don't know. Let's see how many ground launchers Zippo where have they been deployed?
Philippines nowhere else cost of each
Astronomical how many missiles in the Navy Marines three thirty nine ninety two and
The army doesn't have very many at all

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They're you know, I
It's I
Think this is nothing more than a talking point
So we sit and we talk about these
these
Tomahawks and here I've done it now now I've been put but I mean if you can look at YouTube

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Let me give you a quick rundown of YouTube
News about Tomahawk missiles Donald Trump Ukraine
Just in 11 hours ago, right?
You have Trump warns Russia. He may send Ukraine long-range Tomahawks two days ago
Kremlin says don't supply Ukraine Tomahawks two days ago

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Trump considers sending Tomahawk missiles
Moscow warns of escalation
Seven hours ago one day ago Tomahawk tech the lethal long-range missile
Ukraine wants to target Russia, but it shows it being shot from a ship
Where are they gonna get it?
Trump's brazen Tomahawk missile threat to Putin Russia hits back one day ago with one line

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Putin aid shuts up Trump and Zelensky on Tomahawks. I
First true deterrent lies in Tomahawk missiles to talk directly to Putin
Nonsense, I I don't know that this is gonna do anything. Oh

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Crazy sauce
Tomahawk missiles would put two key Russian targets within Ukraine's reach
Yeah, if they could figure out how to how to
How to fire them is what I say
Oh

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Let's see
All right. We're gonna go back to the we talked about that one
the Typhon missile the Oshkosh based and
We even did that. So we're gonna get back to here
My next question that I that I got to thinking about is how come?

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it has been so quiet lately as
To where we stand on
The budget
Where I think the budget is still in shutdown people are still in shutdown. I had a video appointment with a

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doctor
from the VA today and
it was a video appointment for 15-20 minutes and she said something that she was late because
They were in shutdown and the tech people were gone
And they were having issues because they had to send people home
none, uh, there's a bunch of piece of people missing from places where they go and

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so and I
Think the budget is still out there pending, but truthfully I didn't go look specifically
She just said there were people missing so I assume it's still going on, but I really haven't paid attention
Today to that issue
But what I wanted to get to
was I

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Still am very curious as to how much money
the slime balls in DC are
Attempting to funnel to Ukraine even now
quietly
without raising any flags
Without telling the people
Because we don't have the right to know we don't need to know

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They just want to send that money to Ukraine for what?
for a losing cause
by the way that I
meant to finish that last segment by saying
Let's assume that Ukraine can slingshot throw
mail
Missiles

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Into Russia shooting these tomahawks with whatever platform that they can figure out
That they can somehow
weasel their way into getting
the Philippines to send over the two operational batteries that they have and
Maybe there's one or two in Europe that weren't really mentioned

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That we could talk about
Let's see, I think somebody wants to discuss this. Hold on. Let's see if I can figure this out
Hello caller, how's the family?
Well
I'm here. There's some areas of the Dnieper River north of Kiev where the waters a

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Couple hundred feet deep. So I gotta do is load them in a boat and take them out there and chuck them over the side
Those things are self-propelled they'll take off
So all you got to do is throw them over the overboard. That's what you're saying
I mean all the ships do is just shoot them out the side. It's the fans on the unit itself that propels them
the fans and fins

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Well the fence. Yeah, they guide it
All you got to do is chuck them over the side. Just drop them off the side
Then why have launchers at all?
Well, why does the army why does the army need a launcher
Because I mean you can't just set it on the ground and turn it on. It's got to have

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Some initial boost in the land on the land in the air not on in the water though the water
It can just be floating you just flip it on
You sure that?
No, I'm not sure. I'm not sure that I know

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Launcher on the land, of course, you can't just turn it on expect it to surf across the cornfield
Well, yes, but you can't do that in the water either
Of course you can in the water it can be sitting there for then
Then why does the Navy go to such great lengths to shoot them out of the vertical launch system

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I don't think they have to do much at all
You just told me yourself that all they do is just they just squirt them out the side of the boat
That's not what I said. I said they are all launched from a ship
You described it specifically
There's a little thing in the boat that squirts them out of the boat after that the fan kicks on and they take off
No, no, no, no. No, that's not they're not underwater except on a submarine and even there

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They have to go through a torpedo boot tube and be sure to get them
You got to get them in suspense is the point if they're in the air
So you got to have a launcher or they have to be on the top of the boat
But if it's in the water if it's in a tube, I just heard you say it
All it does is push it out the boat and it takes off on its own with the fan

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I that's not what I said. I said they have launchers on boats
That they they are they are boat launch torpedo tubes. Yes
Yes, and you don't just open a torpedo tube and the torpedo shoots itself
It's got a launching system inside of there you go
That's exactly right to get it out of the way from the boat

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and then the fan comes on after the after the the blades come out the fan comes on and it's gone and
Ukraine has no such boat
You don't need it. You start off the side
So so just give Sam and a pile of row boats and we'll go up to the Nepper River. That's 200 feet deep
We'll load my row boat right up. I'll row out to the middle and push it off the side and

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Who's gonna who's gonna target
How you gonna target him?
Once once you get him in suspense
Then that's the shit we can do it from
Here in the United States for that matter. Well, and that's the point. That's the whole point the US

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To do it
You said the point was Ukraine's got no way to launch him
I'm saying they don't if you can drop them if you get if you can throw them in the river
We can handle it from there
You get a pile of boats in the river with a bunch of missiles on them
And I I don't believe they'll be long for this earth. I

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Agree with you, but you only need how long are these things like 20 feet long?
I
like 28 something like that, they're in a 40 foot they're in a 40-foot rail and I
Think I might have the weight of them somewhere, but I don't recall
I thought I heard you say they weigh a thousand pounds. I think that's I may have said that I know I said there

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Yeah, I think you know what you may be right but but I delete I closed that page and going back
We put one on a pontoon boat in Lake Ozark and you can drop it out the back and tell the Pentagon, okay, we're good
So Jr is ready to JR is already

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You're ready to get your pontoon and and have it airlifted into the Dnipper River
I'll bet you there's already boats there. I bet you there aren't boats that have launch systems for the
Launch system you got to have a couple guys who can throw it off the side of the boat or out the back or out
The front of the boat. So why are we spending all this money on warships?

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I don't understand at all why we're spending hundreds of millions of dollars on warships
We could have a flotilla of
pontoon boats and all go out and just throw out missiles and we would be just as successful as that way you're saying
That would not be efficient

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So it's more efficient to spend hundreds of millions of dollars
Well, yeah, you have to protect
There's a lot of things
There's nothing protecting a pontoon boat for sure if you and me are out there shoving this off the front of the pontoon boat
This is guerrilla warfare and in Kiev at this point, right? Oh
I don't know about that

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you you launch somehow you launch a
What would it be called?
What is it called whatever the Tomahawk if you launch a Tomahawk and you happen to hit Moscow even
Accidentally, it's a whole new dynamic
You think so, huh?

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Yeah, actually that's not why I called I was curious if you had an opinion on the new Pentagon press
Requirements
They have to fill out like a 20-page report now, didn't they say they were going to ignore them completely?
Every network has said we're not doing it except one and that's television number five

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They went ahead and signed it and said we're in
They said we are in
Yeah, OPM said yeah, they signed theirs already. In fact tonight was the deadline and
So nobody's gonna be allowed in anymore. Is that right?
Is what
So they'll be the only ones
Nobody else signed it. Nobody not even Newsmax Newsmax Fox ABC CNN

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Washington Times and they're opposing nobody only and was the only one
What were all the questions?
What were the questions? Well, it mostly had to do with
Just anything you report
You're gonna have to have us sign off on you're not just gonna
Meander the halls. You'll have to be guided around here. Just like every other base on planet Earth

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and so nobody can report from the
Yeah, that's right First Amendment, oh my god First Amendment, yeah. Yeah, but nobody has to allow you into the Pentagon
Do they will
Now you after starting tomorrow you will

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No, no, no. No, I'm saying that it's not wouldn't you I mean everything they do in Missouri is oh, no, that's a privilege
It's not a right. So I'm saying it's not a right to go into the Pentagon
Correct. You know, I can't just when I had a military ID. I went into the Pentagon on a regular basis when I was
stationed in Washington DC

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And you weren't you didn't have a press pass but I didn't have a press pass and
Today, even though I'm a veteran and I have an ID card. I got all that stuff
There ain't no way I'd just be able to wander in to the Pentagon. Well, the press has been
Wow
And that's it until tonight at midnight. Well, I doubt they will be tomorrow then

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Well
Yeah, it's it's a whole different deal. They're saying hey, this is a matter of national security, which Trump's the First Amendment is what the argument is
Trump Trump's the First Amendment
They say yeah national security. You can't just come in here and walk out of here without
Letting us sign off on what you're what story you're writing or what you're gonna run and and I'm telling you man

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all these news medias are like
Going ain't shit over it. They're like no way. This is this ain't right. How are we supposed to?
How are we supposed to report what's going on and how do you know what's going on these are everybody's always a
Confidential source

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Exactly my point no more confidential sources, you know
That doesn't work in many other countries
I mean pick pick pick a friend try that in Israel
Yeah, but First Amendment doesn't allow you to get on to Fort Hood, Texas either

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You know, you don't just get a wander on because you got a press pass
Yeah, I know that but I mean it's it's it's a still a military base
Right, well, well what we haven't realized basically our whole entire lives is
Is once you get the press pass you you've had pretty as long as you're like recognized

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It was been very very very lax at the Pentagon
over the past however many decades and now
Sec def Hegseth is like nope that ends today
No, no, no more. It's a matter of national security from now on and everybody's screaming First Amendment except OAN
They say hey, where are we sign?

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I'll go sign. I have a press pass
I'll go sign up and say let me in I will tell only what you want me to say. How about that?
I don't know. I I got I

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I have mixed feelings on that. First of all, I I agree that that there ought to be
If you have an oppressed conference in the Pentagon, then people should be allowed in to
to
Go to the presser, right?
But it should be very

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Formal you remember when you had to sign for me to go to
Bricks
Bricks conference, right? That's a big deal. You don't just get in to the to the place where foreign leaders are gonna be meeting
or
having
Meetings with important people even if you're a journalist in most other countries

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It's not that they're trying to stop you from saying one thing or another
It's that they want to know who's coming in because they're gonna you know
I think if you go from that point of view because the analysis on a legal on a legal basis in
Missouri and everywhere else and and whether so let's take a quick a run down a legal platform here if

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somebody sues the Trump White House or the Trump Pentagon because they can't get in on
First Amendment grounds and the Pentagon says well, no, we're not we're not
limiting what you can say
we're limiting who can get in to have access to this secure facility and

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That person has to be allowed in in order to do it
we don't give a crap what you say once you once you come in and are allowed in to
Discuss, but if you're saying that the Trump White House is saying you we got to approve what you print before you print it. I

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Don't think that will hold up under the Supreme Court First Amendment scrutiny
Well, I
Say good luck. Here comes another lawsuit toward the Trump White House if it's based on that if it's based on

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You know where you get it be when you hear them
Feel free to I may look into it
ask your your favorite AI to define the
the
Conflict there with the new Pentagon press rules
The new Pentagon press really amazing for me to see that, you know Newsmax and Fox are like no

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We got a problem with this Trump
That's shocking. I mean, that's that's a that's a new dynamic. They usually almost always. Yeah, if Trump says it, let's do it
Well, I haven't been a yes Trump said it let's do it for a while and
But I'm generally supportive of the old

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Yeah, but it's not national security if it's just a press conference
Depends on what you're coming in to do if you're coming in to clandestinely meet with somebody just go clandestinely meet him at his house
Right exactly, that's what I'm saying

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You probably move about from the way I understand it
You're you're basically free to move about the halls and talk to anybody you want to and that's what sect-f
I accept is clamping down on
So you can't just wander around you can only be in specified areas
Why don't you ask your chat GPT or your grok or whoever

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To explain the situation here. It shouldn't take but a second. Well, I can't talk to it and I don't like typing
I'll look into it tomorrow for you. That'll be fine
Clackety-clack give it the oh, yeah, I can't see you can't type. I mean, you know, I've just plenty of

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Negative cell phones with a flashlight on it. I need something. It's
It's but that's a good topic I am interested in that I may have to dig in
All right, brother as you were I appreciate having you you have a very good day or evening and there he goes

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Where is he now?
He is gone
He has departed henceforth into the wilderness and we believe it shall be well with him
Although I still think he's a bit loopy on the idea of just taking a bunch of pontoon boats

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flotillas to Ukraine and
Pushing them over the edge, especially when you only can get 20 to 50. I
Very well in that in that regard
Let us see. I

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Wanted to go through the budget and see what these goons were talking about
as far as
Throwing more money at a losing battle
so the Senate's National Defense
Authorization Act for fiscal year 2026 and the Armed Services Committee bill extending

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USAID what is it you us you couldn't where's my piece of paper? Oh
I have a piece of paper here because there's so many acronyms. I was losing my mind
So I said I got to write these down because there's so many
Ukraine money trains and the first one is called the Ukraine

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security assistance
Initiative and it is from the Department of Defense
Funding funding line that buys weapons and services for Ukraine
Congress this is Congress and
What they're after

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for the
For the
USAI Ukraine security assistance initiative
through
2028 the authorization is going up to
500 million
Dollars, there we go again
There goes another half a billion. That's the Senate the Senate appropriations

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This is different not the Defense Authorization Act. This is Senate appropriations
This is a GOP led panel that is advancing the fiscal year 2026 defense bill with
1 billion for Ukraine
800 million would be
the
Ukraine security assistance initiative and

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Then other lines in fact there and this they're doing despite Trump
administration's request to eliminate Ukraine aid in that specific bill
Then the house let's go to the house for fiscal year 26 National Defense Authorization Act the house kept

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Ukraine security assistance initiative lower their committees put it around 400 to 500 million
Which you know the Senate and the house are going to agree right about this 500 million
but the Democrats summary shows 400 million that's been adopted already in the markup and
Then stand alone more money for Ukraine

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This is the Senate
Senate bill
2592 supporting Ukraine act of 2025 by Shaheen and Murkowski they propose get this
30 billion dollars
For Department of Defense split 15 billion
Ukraine security assistance initiative and 15 billion for replenishment of what's been

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Taken so far what's disappeared so far
plus 3 billion
something called
FMF foreign military
Financing that helps partners by u.s. Arms. How about that so we?
Fund arms for them in a loan that they got to pay back. That's not what Trump said

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Trump said that we're gonna make them buy arms and what they do with them after that we don't care. That's not what's here and
It credits u.s. Military aid as a capital contribution
to the new
US Ukraine
Reconstruction investment fund so they introduced that one that was introduced in July

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2025 and that one is in committee and the house has house resolution
2913 the Ukraine support act
Meeks it's stuck in committees the Democrats have filed a discharge
Petition to force it to the floor. They want more money for Ukraine
And they're all out there trying to get it. How much has the u.s. Already?

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Appropriated right the u.s. Government's official oversight portal says we have
given
187 billion dollars in total appropriations
tied to
operation
Atlantic resolve and the Ukraine response through fiscal year

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2024 which comprises five Ukraine supplemental acts from
2022 to 2024 plus other agency funds within that the April
2024 security supplement included
61 billion
for Ukraine part of the 95 billion foreign aid package

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Unbelievable, so Biden versus Trump. What was approved under whom?
under President Biden February 22 to January 2025
Congress passed those five supplements remember
Cumulating in April 24
61 billion the DoD
executed dozens of PDA drawdowns and

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US AI contracts Patriot missiles naysayers missiles attack comes missiles
artillery, etc and under President Trump
2025
January to the president the admin
Shifted emphasis toward Europeans funding u.s. Weapons for Ukraine, right via NATO's

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prioritized Ukraine
Requirement list that is P URL, but Congress moved on baseline
Ukraine security assistance initiative 500 million from the
Senate and 400 million from the house and

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Appropriations with 1 billion in Senate appropriations still more
admin level actions
resumed limited money and
brokered green and grin
Can't talk green lit Patriot backfield deals with allies
Trump and Zelensky have discussed long-range options including tomahawks, but no

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public green light yet
Then remember all the talk about Patriots and they've all disappeared basically there are very few Patriots
Remaining in Ukraine. They've all been blown the hell up
How many batteries are actually in Ukraine right now?

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Open source tallies consistently say that there may be as many as
six or seven
Operational Patriot batteries in Ukraine as of mid
2025 they have mix of full batteries and component sets donors include the US and Germany

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multiple each
Romania one full system the Netherlands launchers and radar and Spain has provided Patriot missiles
And what is pledged in?
2025
US and Germany plan
July of 2025 the US and Germany announced up to five additional Patriot systems for Ukraine a

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Mix of intermediate. I'm sorry immediate German transfers and the US backfilling German transfer
Germany later specified only two would arrive by the end of 2025
Several European deliveries are trying to be accelerated and some partners have accepted delay to their own orders as

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backfill
Romanian battery Parliament approved
donation in September 2024 and it was delivered in October 2024 the
Ukraine relief in European funding the Netherlands became the first to buy
500 million of a US kit for Ukraine

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including
Patriot components
under the first pearl mechanism for NATO
so the money
The money train is still
chugging down the track
Production and sustainment money for the Patriot industry ramp on Boeing just won a 2.7 billion dollar

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contract
For pac-3 interceptors without put targets of up to 750 a year for 2030
Lockheed landed a separate 9.6 billion production
award last month and
179

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Point one was awarded for Patriot sustainment for Ukraine on August 29th
2025 so 179 million for Patriots
The bottom line for Patriots Ukraine sits at about six or seven batteries that are in service now
allegedly

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Oh crap
Where'd it go?
With additional batteries slated for u.s. Germany blah blah blah and missile interceptor production
Surging if they can call it that under multi-year
Contracts, so they're expecting this to go on for a while
So the Tomahawks how many and what funding so multiple outlets

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citing briefings to the Financial Times say the u.s. Can spare only
20 to 50 Tomahawks for Ukraine a token number
very unlikely to change battlefield dynamics absent large
numbers of missiles and
Mobile launchers, but no formal transfer has been announced on the ground launcher side the Typhon is operational

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But nothing else is there we talked about all that red already
What's still being provided the high-level stuff our Patriots?
batteries launchers and missiles
NASAMS launchers and missiles iris-t hawk patriot they remain the only widely deployed Western
system able to get past Russian ballistic missiles in Ukraine service and

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Continued focus here is gun. You know it'll continue with both the
Ukraine security assistance and
this NATO
funded buying
and long-range
ongoing artillery and rocket munitions are in serious

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shortage
From the Ukrainian side and Russia's producing literally ten times more than Ukraine is
all of NATO together u.s.. Everybody is
it's
for
Artillery shells
Not not going well on the Ukraine side

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I watched quite a few of the because I haven't watched in a couple of weeks, and I
Got on and watched some of the lines of
The front that have shifted over the last couple of weeks, and it's
It's still not good for Ukraine. It's gonna be cold freakin winter

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Let's do a quick
Biden versus Trump ledger right he had five Ukrainian supplements
Trump has this
Funding at least he's
Trying to save the Americans a little bit of money. I guess although. I really don't
Necessarily see it that way

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Because I believe he's gonna sign these if he's given these these bills that show some
Some more money what I really wanted to do was get a Ukraine
Note card on funding because I already have the active and the standalones
and what's been approved and all the Patriots and Tomahawks and

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You know Lindsey Graham out there crying for more
You know we got to have some more, but I thought it would be interesting to go and try to find out
the country by country
annual aid
At least since 2022 and
there's a place called the

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keel
Institute and they have a keel Institute Ukraine support tracker another acronym for you
UST it is the
authoritative public data set that breaks out military financial and
humanitarian commitments by donor country and

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by
Time you can do it monthly, but I don't want monthly. I'd prefer yearly it covers
41 donors
all EU members
individually
Plus the u.s.. The UK Canada Norway Japan
Australia South Korea Turkey

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Switzerland Thailand and the EU separately as a separate donor the latest update
Was today October 14th
that
includes data through August of 2025 and they have it where you can download
the

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entire spreadsheet
And I did that but I couldn't print it out. It's so big
It's pretty huge and so they have this also
Data tracker that you can do an XLS download at the keel Institute and so

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what I really wanted to do was just get more of a
Global I
Don't know and global is not right either more of a
high level or a macro sort of thing that would say yeah, I can't I can't open it on on the

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Studio computer well, it won't work and
And I it won't automatically
Here's a support tracker
here
Download the new data because you can download it. It's really it's really kind of cool. How'd they do it?
I don't like the politics of it all but

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government support to Ukraine by month in
billions of euros
Right and
this is I
Mean troubling by month. We're talking about January through March of 2022

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the u.s. Was at about 2 billion and
Europe was at about
7 then the u.s.
I mean these numbers went huge and now if you go through January to March of
2025 the u.s. Dropped

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Dramatically in this keel
This keel Institute. It's down to 500 million, right?
but in the last part of 2024 it was
27 billion and
now typically
Ukraine monthly is getting and this is monthly
I'm telling you these numbers that this this now you're seeing Europe putting up

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18 did it was 20 billion from April through June now, it's down to 10 billion
I see it is dropping off a little bit that government support to Ukraine by country group and
they have Europe in the United States between
total
177 plus 96 is about what?

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275 for
For Europe and the u.s
It only shows it aid to be allocated because this aid is still supposed to go shows
114 billion by the United States and
Then they have government support though and ours is

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Quite a bit higher not for military support, but government support. It's huge and
Our our numbers are in the number of billions
We've given 64 plus 46 a hundred and what does that make it about a hundred and ten hundred and fifteen?

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quick numbers
Those are huge
government support to Ukraine total bilateral allocations including EU aid
Government support to Ukraine total aid with estimated refugee costs and the u.s. Is still way up on the top of that
We're still given far more than
Than everybody else. We're just not calling it military

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We're calling it everything else if you look at the data transparency index where they're stretching this
The EU completely at five billion is all together
These higher indexes by donor of people that you know, don't want to give up money versus people who are
it's

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Greece
Is it as is way down low? They don't want to give any money
Romania doesn't South Korea Spain Bulgaria Turkey
India are all down below
You know, they don't want to
They're giving it's a disclaimer, but it's basically saying it's a

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Transparency index of how much they are giving and these people aren't aren't allocating any budget support
and so basically the way I see this Kiel Institute thing, it's like
It's a shaming
If your name's on here and you're not near the top of the list, you're shamed into going
Oh, geez, you better come up with some more money. I

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think it's I think this war has been extremely costly and
I think it needs to end and I think the way to end it is quit freaking funding it
But oh, no, we will continue to fund, you know, it'll here. We got our idiot our idiot
fearless leaders
That are just going to continue to pump money

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into yet another rat hole of
Ukraine
Not much success coming out there
Well, let's see
Annual total 80 billion in 2022 80 billion 2023 80 billion in

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2024 Europe versus US military. Here's military
62 billion u.s. 64 billion Europe
2025 trend u.s. Is very slow. Europe is procuring more more
I had my acronym list, but I'm not gonna read that to you. It's very dull and

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No entertainment at all
Let's see, and I believe that now where were we
Um
The EU isn't at war with Russia. However, they continue to say

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We're not at war with Russia. We are just supporting Ukraine
But we we hate Russia by the way European leaders are just you know
Among other things this moment in history will be remembered whether in books whether in chapters

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Or forgotten footnotes as the great European drone scare
because for weeks now the
populations of NATO EU Europe have been subjected to a barrage of vague but scary
reports about drone sightings

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The drones have appeared over various places
prominently including airports in Denmark in Germany
They are of unknown origin and unknown purpose
They could be UFOs and quite often it is actually also unknown whether they're even real

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There are no pictures no proof. Indeed. There is no proof of Russia being responsible for any of these incidents as
even Western media admits we're once again asked to simply trust our politicians and
Quote experts
That is the same ones who took months to stop pretending that Russia blew up its own Nord Stream pipelines in

(01:22:07):
2022 as late as spring of 2023
Germany's Carlo masala for instance who also believes Gherkin and Strelkov are two different individuals just like
well masala was still spreading groundless speculation a
Conspiracy theory about a false flag attack by Russia on Nord Stream. So once again

(01:22:32):
Russia Russia Russia
an old coincidence of coincidences
Recently Moscow as we are told has had nothing better to do than oblige Western
information warriors with three further sort of incidents a purported electronic warfare attack on

(01:22:53):
the plane of an EU
despot and de facto u.s. Pro Consul Ursula von der Leyen over the Bulgarian city of Plovdiv an
Alleged incursion into Estonian airspace and low flyovers over the German frigate Hamburg during recent
NATO exercises in

(01:23:13):
Reality these three stories share only one thing with the great drone saga
They don't hold up to scrutiny
The case of the alleged Plovdiv GBS attack is so shoddy and cratered so badly so quickly
That it has been quickly forgotten the incursion into Estonian airspace didn't happen either

(01:23:33):
Due to an agreement that Estonia itself signed in 94
It cannot claim a 12-mile but only three mile zone in the relevant area
Estonia's case is hysterical to begin with the
1994 agreement deprives it of even the flimsiest pretext of legality
Regarding the so-called buzzing of the Hamburg

(01:23:56):
Finally even Western military officials admit it was not imminently dangerous instead
They say it was unfriendly and provocative
frankly boo
Freaking who what do you expect holding exercises on Russia's doorstep?
While fighting an indirect war against it in Ukraine a friendly chat among sailors over a stiff grog and

(01:24:20):
Yet everyone in NATO EU establishment politics and the mainstream media has been singing the same
old song
once again
Russia is coming Russia is here Russia is everywhere the head of Germany's new spy agency
the boon this

(01:24:40):
Nachrichten sides
Dines they said that wrong seems to believe that his job is not to do secret things quietly
But to join the chorus of panic mongers. He also has sleepless visions of Russians attacking any day now
Maybe from right under his bed or out of his cupboard one might say

(01:25:02):
It is almost as if they are all reading from the same
Hymnbook that is memo and of course the new wave of self-induced hyperventilation
Has been milked for all its worth a lot as in billions of euros and yet more money to be spent on
armaments including but not limited to a

(01:25:26):
Drone wall while ordinary people are subjected to ever more brutal austerity even more disturbingly
There's clear drive to concentrate ever more power with those same political
Establishments that can't stop ruling by fright and confusing their own
citizens
That the drone stories are already crumbling makes no difference a dramatic French attempt

(01:25:52):
Special forces at all to pin nefarious drone activity on a tanker for instance has failed miserably in
Germany a recent sighting has actually been cleared up quickly the culprit a hapless German drone amateur
Who is living under a rock?
That's funny and perish the thought that Ukraine itself might have anything to do with these mystery drones

(01:26:18):
Its regime has plenty of motive and by now even the West has been compelled to acknowledge. It is perfectly capable
Ukraine that is of massive sabotage
operations and lies to manipulate its European backers
Because that is now even the official story of the Nord Stream attack

(01:26:42):
Instead let's pretend that we know that we what we don't know Russia Russia Russia and start
Overreacting again based on our ignorance and panic
at best on a malevolent
Deliberate strategy of cognitive warfare
against our own countries in

(01:27:03):
Germany for instance both Chancellor Friedrich Mertz and defense minister Boris
Pistorius have made the bizarre claim that while the country is not at war
It is also no longer at peace and the Russians are coming head of the BND
he feels the current peace is icy at best and

(01:27:25):
Could turn into heated confrontation at any moment
What is that supposed to mean? Is there a backhanded admission?
Finally that Germany has made a deliberate and off awfully self-harming choice to fight Russia through Ukraine
Hmm we wonder

(01:27:45):
We have noticed that how about you our supposed leaders stop playing with fire. I
Tend to like that article
Consequences, I don't understand that word though. It's a German word. So basically
Are these fear-mongering statements meant to prepare the ground for a concrete power grab?

(01:28:10):
That is what Roderick Kiesel whiter an ultra russophobe and war
Fanaticist from Mertz's own center-right CDU party has already suggested. He wants to German
Parliament to declare the so-called
Spannungsfall literally
situation of tension in the mainstream media

(01:28:32):
For instance the important newspaper wealth the usual information warriors are already
Amplifying his message and yet another striking coincidence in a recent military
Exercise in Hamburg one of Germany's busy cities was dedicated to
coastblane the Spannungsfall with maximum

(01:28:54):
Publicity
last but not least Spannungsfall allows the government to postpone or
Influence elections. Those are problems, aren't they?
Anyway, it doesn't look like I'm gonna have time to finish that lovely article because there's about
well
How about this?

(01:29:15):
But there is also something special in the words of Jonas Togel one of the few Western experts daring to notice Western
Information warfare it is worse than it has ever been but there are no guarantee that things won't get worse
The real question is how much longer our warriors-in-chief will have a free hand to drive us all mad with fear. I

(01:29:38):
Am Samuel Trapp. This is international flavor. You have been listening to damn radio
Please join me nightly on damn radio from 9 p.m. To 10 30 p.m
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